WEBVTT - Meal Prep Magic w/ Catherine McCord 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:05.160 Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.600 partnership with iHeartRadio. Any advice for parents who are packing 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.880 lunches for their first time kindergartener, which I'm about to do. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.480 Make it very easy for them. I would always think 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.720 about how are you going to get the most nutrients 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.320 in every single bite? So like raw fruits, raw vegetables. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.200 Don't make it hard for them. Don't make anything where 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.920 they have to like peel stuff off, like make it easy. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.840 Do a bento box so immediately you lift it, you 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.600 see all of your choices, because you'd be shocked that 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.519 sometimes kids will end up eating the cucumber for the 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.120 cookie because I don't know. Their bodies are different than ours. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:53.959 Thirsty and they just wanted something else exactly. Hello, everybody, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.480 Welcome back to Katie's Crib. Today's guest makes me salivate. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:00.600 Her food is delicious. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.679 She packs the best kids lunches I've ever seen. And 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.440 for all of your mothers listening who have school age children, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.360 I'm sure you follow people on Instagram or have looked 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.800 people up on blogs or whatever where you see all 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.080 these moms making like the most amazing packed lunches ever, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.559 and you feel like a failure because your lunches suck 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.760 compared to that. It ends here. Stop feeling like shit 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.080 about yourself. We've got the one and only Catherine McCord 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:32.080 here today, who is the Instagram behind we Delicious. I'm 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.640 telling you all of her posts and pictures and recipes 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.560 and descriptions of how you pack a kick ass kids 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.480 lunch that they actually eat, and how to get them 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.880 to eat it. She makes it seem achievable, easy and doable, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:45.399 and I. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.480 Actually use all of her tips and tricks. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.040 Not only that, but I know her personally because she's 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.559 a former actress who I've done seen classes with together 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.720 when we were up and coming like twenty years ago 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.640 in LA. I don't even think i've seen her since then, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.320 so we've got a lot to catch up on. Let 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.480 me tell you about her. Her name is Katherine McCord. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.040 She's a formal model, actress, and television program hostess. She's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.440 the founder of we Delicious, a website dedicated to helping 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.079 parents expose their children to wholesome, delicious, homemade food. She's 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.000 a best selling author of three books, The Smoothie Project, Welicious, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.639 Lunches and we Delicious Enhanced edition, and at the time 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.079 of our recording, her fourth book, Meal Prep Magic Time 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.400 Saving Tricks for Stress Free Eating, was just about to 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.400 be released as of early April. Now it's available wherever 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.440 books are sold, so make sure you get a copy. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.560 McCord is married to film producer and former movie studio 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.679 executive Jonathan Gordon. A couple have three children, Kenya, Chloe 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:51.840 and Gemma Catherine. Hi, it's been forever, Hi, I was 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.200 busy doing your very sassy, sexy intro. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.440 Was it sassy and sexy? I hope so? 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.520 And what the hell scene did we do in Lesli Khan? 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:04.359 Do you remember this? 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.760 Oh my god, I love that you just remember that. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.400 I have no idea what the scene was, but we. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.200 Were paired up. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.079 Yes, I think I was twenty five, so that's fifteen 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.880 years ago. Yeah, And you're so tall and beautiful, and 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.840 I just remember us being assigned a scene together. And 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.360 I had a one room studio apartment literally a piece 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.080 of shit, but really anuffort made for small people, like 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.040 for people only four foot five and below. And you 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.080 are very tall and modelesque. As we know, you were 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:42.840 a former model actress and television post. But I remember 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.760 us rehearsing the scene and my couch was also a 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.160 futon was also the bed I was staying in, and 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.800 we were trying to like block the scene around my apartment, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.720 and I'm like, this tall, gorgeous creature can't even take 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.560 a step in this piece of shit, tiny thing. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:01.920 I'm so happy to see you. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.480 I can't believe what it is that you've made of 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.760 your life, your three beautiful children, the incredibly successful books 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.360 and website and Instagram, and information that you are bringing 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.760 to all of us mothers out there in a very 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:21.440 saturated market. I have to say, like, I get so 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.360 much inspiration from you and the food you are giving 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.120 to your children. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.000 How did this come about? 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.160 I was very obsessed from a very young age in 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.120 cooking from Kentucky. My grandparents were into farming, growing their 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.839 own food. So they had a big old compost in 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.400 the back that they would just throw everything and it 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.200 would have like insane tomatoes and peas, all this stuff 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.200 growing off of it. I was just like super obsessed 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.760 from a very young age. There was no oil or 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.280 but it. It was just a scoop of bacon, grease and everything. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.039 I had Bonappetite and Gourmet when I was ten years 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.800 old and had a subscribe. Shouldn't obsessed with cookbooks, And 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.800 it wasn't until I went to culinary school. I mean 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.800 that was like definitely the trajectory. Somehow, like modeling and 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.800 other things got in the way, but like, that's the 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.440 thing I really always wanted to do. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.840 Wow, you make food looks so good. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.520 I don't for those of you listening who don't follow 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.320 Wheelishes on Instagram, and you want to watch her children 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.200 go with her to the farmer's market and show what 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.400 her spread looks like and how she shops and how 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.760 she then translates it into food for the week, and 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.600 it's so remarkable. And your children are literally like sitting 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:42.160 on curbs at farmers' markets, like crushing raw frickin' brussels prus. Yeah, okay, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.799 so that's how you got started. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:44.400 Yes? 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.320 Do you think that because of you your kids have 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.600 been raised in the same way or one of your 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.640 three kids is like a very picky eater or something, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.440 so you've gotten to experience my side of the coin. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.680 Hi, By the way, I love that you're asking this 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.400 because I have been thinking about this so much lately, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.400 because I have a sixteen year old, an almost fourteen 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.360 year old, and a seven year old. They have all 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:12.240 grown up in the same house. They all eat everything. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.800 I will put everything in quotes, but everything. My son, though, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.039 became a vegetarian when he was five on his own, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.880 like we were like, who are you? And even when 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.600 he was little, meat or if he would chew, and 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.359 he was never into it period the end. My middle 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.400 daughter she looks at a steak like it is the 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.599 Mona Lisa. It is the most beautiful thing she's ever 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.040 seen at all times. So I do think that nature 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.680 versus nurture being around food, like they'll all eat every 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.960 fruit and vegetable. So I do think that I was 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.840 able to be like, Okay, here it is exposure. Let's 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.919 go to the farmer's market. Let's have it on your plate, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.640 let's have it steamed and roasted, air fried brags like 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.720 with saws without without Yeah exactly. But I do think 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.120 that all you can have experiences like what My middle 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.919 daughter will not eat orange cheese. It is a hard pass. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.360 She threw up mac and cheese when she was six 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.840 years old and that was it. But I do think 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.080 a lot of it has to do with the way 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.440 they're raised and like the exposure. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.520 So let's say she doesn't give like orange cheese. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.720 Was there a time where you were still putting orange 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.120 cheese on the plate and like offering it for her 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.240 to decide and maybe change her mind? Or is it 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.200 just taking off the menu for her? And if you're 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.120 making something with orange cheese for dinner for everybody, you 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.200 don't make it on hers, Like how do. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:34.640 You do that? 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.480 So okay, let's even go back earlier. If your kid's like, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.880 I'm not eating broccoli, ugh, You're going to try ten 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.760 different times, ten different ways, and they will eventually like 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.200 it unless there's some kind of I do think that 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.680 there are predispositions to just not liking certain foods, and 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.360 that's okay, But I would say that almost every fruit 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:00.000 or vegetable like that's something that we It takes some more, 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.080 it takes some work. If something happens to a child 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.360 that they're like, we did twenty three and meters with 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.720 my son, Yes, and he has eighty seven percent predisposition 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.360 to be to vegetarianism. That type of thing. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:14.360 Is just is real. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.400 It's very real. But I think it's exposure. I think 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.520 you have to keep trying with kids, and there is 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.560 such a thing as picky kids and kids that have 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.200 no control in their life, and so they all food 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.240 becomes the one thing they can be like, I'm not 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:28.880 gonna eat that. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.160 A bunch of seasons ago, we had this amazing nutritionist, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.920 pediatric nutritionist come on, who was very much about when 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.800 you're making a plate for your kid, it's like you 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.840 always give them a definite, like something that they always 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.360 eat regardless, and you always give them a maybe, and 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.760 then you can always also give them the no. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:52.560 God. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.000 Now I'm in this thing with my two year old 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.520 daughter where the minute she sits down at the table, 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.800 if there's something on her plate that she doesn't like, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.080 she points at it. She may a gagging sound. Jesus 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.720 to sit down unless it's removed from her plate. And 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.760 I know I'm speaking for all of us moms out there, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.679 like I'm tired. I'm like, fine, fuck it, I don't care, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.040 get it off the fucking plate. Like whatever are we 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.400 having pasta wheels again? Pasta wheels again? Do you stick 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.480 by that I'm making one dinner for the whole family. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.680 Is that something you've you put in to effect early 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:24.520 on with your kids. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.760 Yeah. The first Reelicious cookbook is called One Family, One Meal, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.440 because I was like, I'm not going to be a 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.040 short order cook. I'm not going to be like who 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.400 wants eggs? And who wants waffles? And who wants pancakes? 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.960 And you want blueberry? It's too much. When I was 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.480 growing up, it was like, here you go eat it. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.679 This is it. We are a catering to our children. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.520 Generation are We're so concerned about their happiness and every 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.120 bite that goes in their mouth and their friends and everything, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.560 and we need like the solution for me which has 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.560 become a win. And this is what I do at 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.760 dinner every night. I do a diy dinner and I 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.880 put out everything because also when you have a vegetarian, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.120 it's easier that way. So it's taco nights, so there's 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.040 ground turkey, and there's guacamole and salt. But you have 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.720 to eat a vegetable or a fruit. It is not an. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.160 Option at every meal. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.040 Every meal. It's like a hard it's just it's a 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.800 hard pass to not But I do always tell my kids, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.440 like we do donut Fridays where we go at for donuts. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.080 Oh god, yes, that right, at the time reporting. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.520 Let it be known that's also be donut Friday. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.560 It has to be donut Friday. But it means that 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.200 other days, like I made chia pudding for breakfast and 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.200 I'm like, oh, there's no fruit, but I know that 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.120 my daughter's snack has a fruit. The exposure if they're 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.720 not seeing it, and then all of a sudden it 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.240 shows up, even with a two year old. Though, I 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.559 think dy is such a great move because when kids 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.079 have their plate just show up and they're like ford objects. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.400 I have no control. I don't what is all this 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.839 opposed to, like two choices, Like we've always done the 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.720 two choice rule in our house. Do you have carrots? 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.000 A do you want celery or apples or whatever it is? 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.640 So I think giving especially younger kids some choice, that's 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.160 your choice, really. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.800 Right, because I'm cool with either thing they pick exactly. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.800 So are all these things on a buffet and then 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.440 they sit down or is all of these bowls like 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.679 in the middle of your kitchen table is if you're 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.160 feasteering Family's not funny. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.320 It's funny you asked that we happen to have an 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.960 island and a kitchen table. So I tend to put 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.840 the food on the island and like people stand up 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.719 as they want more, doesn't matter, it's what works for 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.760 your family. Like the DIY situation, it just works better. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.559 My other company, One Potato, it's very much built on that, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.319 where it's like here's the idea of the meal. But 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.560 like you can break it down. One Potatoes a family 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.640 meal delivery company, so you can get up to three dinners, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:12:00.360 bento boxes, fully prepared smoothies, lunches, everything. The meal are 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.600 made to be very DIY and that you know, if 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.920 you have a kid that just hates carrots, but you 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.160 want to make this meal, you can just leave the 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:09.439 carrots at It's not a big deal. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.880 I just can't believe what your children need, Like I 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:13.640 can't believe. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.880 Like I feel like we're doing pretty good, Like I've 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.440 got one who love steak, one who hates steak, one 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.720 who likes salmon, one that's hates salmon, one that likes broccoli, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.160 one that hates broccoli, but one that loves they both 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.000 love c couvers. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.199 Like I. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.520 Every parent has. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.960 Their battles to pick right that are just massive triggers 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:40.679 in themselves. I'm weirdly not completely freaking out that my 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:46.120 kids don't crush vegetables. Look, do I wish it was different? Sure, Again, 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.320 it's not keeping me up at night. However, there are 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.600 other things for those listening that do keep me up 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.319 at night. But I have a lot of moms that 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:58.240 this is the battle. This is the worry about what 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.880 are they eating? How much are they eating? 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.080 Is it good for them? Is it healthy? 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.800 Are they eating their lunch? What do you tell parents 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.480 and moms you're working at just to deal with the 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:09.480 stress of this. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.319 I think you have to look at it as like 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.480 in three or four day chunks or even seven day chunks, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.880 because also, let's just remember like little people's dot their 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.920 system is just developing and they're trying to figure it out. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.440 And you may have a child that just can't poop, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.240 and so they're like, I'm constipated, but they don't know 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.360 that they're constipating. You're like, why aren't you eating? Do 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.439 you not like this? There's so much self loathing and 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.679 so much like emotional stuff that goes into it, and 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.760 I think you have to just let it go sometimes. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.000 That's why I like the DIY because make a bunch 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.000 of foods and hope that like Timmy eats broccoli on 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.199 Tuesday and Wednesday, but maybe he's just not feeling it 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.400 on the next two days. I think that you have 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.680 to look at every week as like an overall win 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.200 and not as like every meal. There's so much pressure. Sure, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.320 and you can even do things which I've seen incentivizing 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.640 some kids, and like everyone has a different kid that 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.840 everyone's different with this, but like we did a palm 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.720 palm jar for a whole different thing, but you can 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.200 do a pom pom jar for food. Like you're gonna 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.640 get a palm palm for every new vegetable you try, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.640 and when the jar is filled up, you we're gonna 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.920 go like a special day to I don't know, the park. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.600 It doesn't have to be food related, or it can 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.800 be a cake party. We're gonna get a special cake 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.640 for you. Or kids are very visual in that they 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.280 can see that win. Oh my god, I ate all 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.560 those different vegetables. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:42.240 So you're you're putting the stress on exposure versus like 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:43.440 actually enjoying. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.480 It's like actually trying things. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.880 But what you just said, like my child only likes 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.840 cucumbers and carrots, I'm like, that's awesome. Cucumbers and carrots 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.440 are two highly nutritious foods. Sure that those are wins. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.840 Instead of being like that's all they eat, look at it. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.680 Spin it into a positive and every time that they 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.640 your child now eats cucumber's, carrots and broccoli. You want 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.880 kids to feel empowered when you start to think that you, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.200 as a parent, are responsible for twenty one meals plus 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.080 snacks per child for eighteen years. It's the one thing 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.320 you cannot get away from unless you know your kid 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.600 is like stealing the keys to your car. Like the 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.320 reason that all the cheese It's got in your house 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.240 was because of you. We have to take some responsibility 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.840 but also be easier on ourselves. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.920 Totally. Did you have cheese its or goldfish in your house? 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:38.960 No? I make them homemade. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.560 Oh my god, get the fuck out of here, goodbye. No, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.880 I'm kidding. It's amazing. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.240 But wait a minute. Here's my hack is I make 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.240 a ton of them and then I freeze them, so 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.680 you pop them out and then they defrost in thirty seconds. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.920 You have them all the time, but you only make 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.080 one batch like a month or every month or two. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.400 And they are actually as good as of regular ass goldfish. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.680 They're better, but because they're made with homemade cheese, like 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:05.520 real good. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:07.600 My dad is watering. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.760 I love it so good, They're so good. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.360 Talk to me about reward based food stuff? Is that 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.040 like the no go in your house. I don't think 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.080 anyone knew in the eighties or nineties that this could 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.840 equal out into food issues. And my husband and I 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.160 are two products of that, where like, Okay, you had 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.720 the greatest thing happen, you get some fucking junk food. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.600 Or you had the worst day of your life, guess 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.680 what you get to go house? An Italian meal and 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.200 a canoli whatever it is. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.840 You know what I mean? 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.360 But like we either the best and the worst are 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.360 both rewarded with food. Talk to me on this topic. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.720 I think it's very specific person a person. I think 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.040 that if you can somehow I'll wrap it into less 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.520 reward and being like should we go get an ice 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.240 cream tonight or should we have donut Friday? 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:11.120 Yeah, like a tradition, like a routine versus like because 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.399 you got this, you get this. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.160 But I'm personally a bigger fan of that. We don't 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.000 really do any reward based food, but I do understand 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.000 the idea of it, and like why we do it 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.639 because it's something all the time, and it's sweet and 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.680 it feels good, and it builds so much excitement in 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.920 kids that it's somehow like between like a janky gift 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.320 a piece of plastic and an ice cream. People tend 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.040 to just be like, oh, the ice cream is easier. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.800 I wanted to I don't think it's that we try 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.159 not to do it. It's more we unconsciously really don't do. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.440 It, which is probably good in the better in the 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:43.920 long run. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.840 With everything with your kids, you like wishing we could 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.639 rewind it and be like, oh, why didn't we just 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.600 start this habit earlier. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.560 On when you can now like people listening to us, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.200 like I'm trying to get inspired, like I'm sitting here, like, fuck, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.640 I have a five year old. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:02.240 It's too late. It's too late, Ruin. No body is 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.359 just built on goldfish in a prayer. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.600 No. But I mean that's why I've always loved like 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.240 cooking with kids, because I think that more than anything, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.359 it goes back to the point of like it's showing 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.280 up on their plate once they understand like how what 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.480 it takes to make something, and that it's all kids 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.600 want is to spend time with their parents. Period the 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.920 end yes, period, they act out because they're like, look 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.680 at me, I want to tench yes, I just want 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.879 attention because you're on your phone, you're working, Please be 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.480 with me. Making time to cook with your kids as 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.280 often as possible, letting them participate in dinner. Here, can 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.640 you sprinkle the vinagrette on the sala? Can you sprinkle 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:42.199 some salt on something? The tiniest job makes kids at 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.439 a dinner table, then be like when someone goes, oh 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.399 this is delicious, be like, yeah, Timmy helped with that, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.520 and then Timmy feels awesome. So now Timmy's like I 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.280 should eat it because I made it. And just build 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.720 them up, make them feel powerful without in those little. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.680 Jobs great call. I remember even my son like he's 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.240 terrible at it. But I'm like, do you want to 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:04.960 help the fact that he's like, yeah, I want to 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.680 help set the table? That's crazy and it's with crap 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.280 like it's with horrible, like my table setting. Don't put 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.960 in your head that anything looks remotely cute. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.920 Oh no no, but even table settings like I see 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.520 it could be paper napkins and paper plates. Who cares 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.520 like it? Let them get creative because that's a funny 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.920 one because even on Thanksgiving, my kids get like really 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.679 into it, and my mother would always be like, they 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.800 need to use the nice china, they need to use 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.760 the nice napkins. I'm like, I could care less. Let 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.160 them make it look like Disney in there, yes, because 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.280 they take so much pride and that's tradition to a kid. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.800 What is your advice for the moms like me who 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.679 are not good at cooking and don't enjoy it. I mean, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.720 I like baking with my son, and I am good 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.119 at copying your lunchboxes, which I want to get to 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.400 because I think it's remarkable. But like, I literally can't 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:56.560 make the dinners you're making. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:57.040 I make. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.480 I can make a scrambled egg, a frozen waffle, a 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.760 pasta in a water with a can of sauce, like 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.359 I can't. I just am lost, Like I'm lost. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.399 So you're gonna get your kids, your spouse or whatever. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.919 Everyone needs to make a list of their ten favorite 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.280 foods and you're gonna keep those on hand at all times. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.600 It could be tortillas, cheese, and cucumbers, and so you're 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.800 gonna make Caesa das. I am actually quite as simple 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.200 cook like Welicious is all built on like simple, easy recipes, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.720 and I hate doing dishes, so it has to be 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.480 like as few dishes as possible and think about just 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.680