1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Any advice for parents who are packing 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: lunches for their first time kindergartener, which I'm about to do. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Make it very easy for them. I would always think 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: about how are you going to get the most nutrients 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: in every single bite? So like raw fruits, raw vegetables. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Don't make it hard for them. Don't make anything where 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: they have to like peel stuff off, like make it easy. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Do a bento box so immediately you lift it, you 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: see all of your choices, because you'd be shocked that 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: sometimes kids will end up eating the cucumber for the 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: cookie because I don't know. Their bodies are different than ours. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 3: Thirsty and they just wanted something else exactly. Hello, everybody, 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Katie's Crib. Today's guest makes me salivate. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: Her food is delicious. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: She packs the best kids lunches I've ever seen. And 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: for all of your mothers listening who have school age children, 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you follow people on Instagram or have looked 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: people up on blogs or whatever where you see all 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: these moms making like the most amazing packed lunches ever, 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: and you feel like a failure because your lunches suck 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: compared to that. It ends here. Stop feeling like shit 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: about yourself. We've got the one and only Catherine McCord 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: here today, who is the Instagram behind we Delicious. I'm 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: telling you all of her posts and pictures and recipes 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and descriptions of how you pack a kick ass kids 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: lunch that they actually eat, and how to get them 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: to eat it. She makes it seem achievable, easy and doable, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: and I. 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Actually use all of her tips and tricks. 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Not only that, but I know her personally because she's 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: a former actress who I've done seen classes with together 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: when we were up and coming like twenty years ago 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: in LA. I don't even think i've seen her since then, 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: so we've got a lot to catch up on. Let 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: me tell you about her. Her name is Katherine McCord. 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: She's a formal model, actress, and television program hostess. She's 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: the founder of we Delicious, a website dedicated to helping 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: parents expose their children to wholesome, delicious, homemade food. She's 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: a best selling author of three books, The Smoothie Project, Welicious, 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: Lunches and we Delicious Enhanced edition, and at the time 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: of our recording, her fourth book, Meal Prep Magic Time 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Saving Tricks for Stress Free Eating, was just about to 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: be released as of early April. Now it's available wherever 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: books are sold, so make sure you get a copy. 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: McCord is married to film producer and former movie studio 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: executive Jonathan Gordon. A couple have three children, Kenya, Chloe 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: and Gemma Catherine. Hi, it's been forever, Hi, I was 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: busy doing your very sassy, sexy intro. 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Was it sassy and sexy? I hope so? 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: And what the hell scene did we do in Lesli Khan? 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that you just remember that. 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the scene was, but we. 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: Were paired up. 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Yes, I think I was twenty five, so that's fifteen 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, And you're so tall and beautiful, and 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I just remember us being assigned a scene together. And 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: I had a one room studio apartment literally a piece 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: of shit, but really anuffort made for small people, like 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: for people only four foot five and below. And you 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: are very tall and modelesque. As we know, you were 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: a former model actress and television post. But I remember 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: us rehearsing the scene and my couch was also a 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: futon was also the bed I was staying in, and 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: we were trying to like block the scene around my apartment, 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this tall, gorgeous creature can't even take 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: a step in this piece of shit, tiny thing. 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to see you. 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe what it is that you've made of 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: your life, your three beautiful children, the incredibly successful books 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and website and Instagram, and information that you are bringing 73 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: to all of us mothers out there in a very 74 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: saturated market. I have to say, like, I get so 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: much inspiration from you and the food you are giving 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: to your children. 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: How did this come about? 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: I was very obsessed from a very young age in 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: cooking from Kentucky. My grandparents were into farming, growing their 80 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: own food. So they had a big old compost in 81 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: the back that they would just throw everything and it 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: would have like insane tomatoes and peas, all this stuff 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: growing off of it. I was just like super obsessed 84 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: from a very young age. There was no oil or 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: but it. It was just a scoop of bacon, grease and everything. 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: I had Bonappetite and Gourmet when I was ten years 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: old and had a subscribe. Shouldn't obsessed with cookbooks, And 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't until I went to culinary school. I mean 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: that was like definitely the trajectory. Somehow, like modeling and 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: other things got in the way, but like, that's the 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: thing I really always wanted to do. 92 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: Wow, you make food looks so good. 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't for those of you listening who don't follow 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Wheelishes on Instagram, and you want to watch her children 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: go with her to the farmer's market and show what 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: her spread looks like and how she shops and how 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: she then translates it into food for the week, and 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: it's so remarkable. And your children are literally like sitting 99 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: on curbs at farmers' markets, like crushing raw frickin' brussels prus. Yeah, okay, 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: so that's how you got started. 101 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that because of you your kids have 103 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: been raised in the same way or one of your 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: three kids is like a very picky eater or something, 105 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: so you've gotten to experience my side of the coin. 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: Hi, By the way, I love that you're asking this 107 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: because I have been thinking about this so much lately, 108 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: because I have a sixteen year old, an almost fourteen 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: year old, and a seven year old. They have all 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: grown up in the same house. They all eat everything. 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: I will put everything in quotes, but everything. My son, though, 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: became a vegetarian when he was five on his own, 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: like we were like, who are you? And even when 114 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: he was little, meat or if he would chew, and 115 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: he was never into it period the end. My middle 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: daughter she looks at a steak like it is the 117 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: Mona Lisa. It is the most beautiful thing she's ever 118 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: seen at all times. So I do think that nature 119 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: versus nurture being around food, like they'll all eat every 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: fruit and vegetable. So I do think that I was 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: able to be like, Okay, here it is exposure. Let's 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: go to the farmer's market. Let's have it on your plate, 123 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: let's have it steamed and roasted, air fried brags like 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: with saws without without Yeah exactly. But I do think 125 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: that all you can have experiences like what My middle 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: daughter will not eat orange cheese. It is a hard pass. 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: She threw up mac and cheese when she was six 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: years old and that was it. But I do think 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: a lot of it has to do with the way 130 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: they're raised and like the exposure. 131 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: So let's say she doesn't give like orange cheese. 132 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Was there a time where you were still putting orange 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: cheese on the plate and like offering it for her 134 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: to decide and maybe change her mind? Or is it 135 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: just taking off the menu for her? And if you're 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: making something with orange cheese for dinner for everybody, you 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: don't make it on hers, Like how do. 138 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: You do that? 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: So okay, let's even go back earlier. If your kid's like, 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm not eating broccoli, ugh, You're going to try ten 141 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: different times, ten different ways, and they will eventually like 142 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: it unless there's some kind of I do think that 143 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: there are predispositions to just not liking certain foods, and 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: that's okay, But I would say that almost every fruit 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: or vegetable like that's something that we It takes some more, 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: it takes some work. If something happens to a child 147 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: that they're like, we did twenty three and meters with 148 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: my son, Yes, and he has eighty seven percent predisposition 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: to be to vegetarianism. That type of thing. 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: Is just is real. 151 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: It's very real. But I think it's exposure. I think 152 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: you have to keep trying with kids, and there is 153 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: such a thing as picky kids and kids that have 154 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: no control in their life, and so they all food 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: becomes the one thing they can be like, I'm not 156 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: gonna eat that. 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: A bunch of seasons ago, we had this amazing nutritionist, 158 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: pediatric nutritionist come on, who was very much about when 159 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: you're making a plate for your kid, it's like you 160 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: always give them a definite, like something that they always 161 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: eat regardless, and you always give them a maybe, and 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: then you can always also give them the no. 163 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: God. 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm in this thing with my two year old 165 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: daughter where the minute she sits down at the table, 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: if there's something on her plate that she doesn't like, 167 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: she points at it. She may a gagging sound. Jesus 168 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: to sit down unless it's removed from her plate. And 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm speaking for all of us moms out there, 170 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: like I'm tired. I'm like, fine, fuck it, I don't care, 171 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: get it off the fucking plate. Like whatever are we 172 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: having pasta wheels again? Pasta wheels again? Do you stick 173 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: by that I'm making one dinner for the whole family. 174 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: Is that something you've you put in to effect early 175 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: on with your kids. 176 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. The first Reelicious cookbook is called One Family, One Meal, 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: because I was like, I'm not going to be a 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: short order cook. I'm not going to be like who 179 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: wants eggs? And who wants waffles? And who wants pancakes? 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: And you want blueberry? It's too much. When I was 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: growing up, it was like, here you go eat it. 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: This is it. We are a catering to our children. 183 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: Generation are We're so concerned about their happiness and every 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: bite that goes in their mouth and their friends and everything, 185 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: and we need like the solution for me which has 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: become a win. And this is what I do at 187 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: dinner every night. I do a diy dinner and I 188 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: put out everything because also when you have a vegetarian, 189 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: it's easier that way. So it's taco nights, so there's 190 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: ground turkey, and there's guacamole and salt. But you have 191 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: to eat a vegetable or a fruit. It is not an. 192 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Option at every meal. 193 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Every meal. It's like a hard it's just it's a 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: hard pass to not But I do always tell my kids, 195 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: like we do donut Fridays where we go at for donuts. 196 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, that right, at the time reporting. 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Let it be known that's also be donut Friday. 198 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: It has to be donut Friday. But it means that 199 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: other days, like I made chia pudding for breakfast and 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there's no fruit, but I know that 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: my daughter's snack has a fruit. The exposure if they're 202 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: not seeing it, and then all of a sudden it 203 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: shows up, even with a two year old. Though, I 204 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: think dy is such a great move because when kids 205 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: have their plate just show up and they're like ford objects. 206 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: I have no control. I don't what is all this 207 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: opposed to, like two choices, Like we've always done the 208 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: two choice rule in our house. Do you have carrots? 209 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: A do you want celery or apples or whatever it is? 210 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: So I think giving especially younger kids some choice, that's 211 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: your choice, really. 212 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Right, because I'm cool with either thing they pick exactly. 213 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: So are all these things on a buffet and then 214 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: they sit down or is all of these bowls like 215 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of your kitchen table is if you're 216 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: feasteering Family's not funny. 217 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: It's funny you asked that we happen to have an 218 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: island and a kitchen table. So I tend to put 219 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: the food on the island and like people stand up 220 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 2: as they want more, doesn't matter, it's what works for 221 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: your family. Like the DIY situation, it just works better. 222 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: My other company, One Potato, it's very much built on that, 223 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: where it's like here's the idea of the meal. But 224 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: like you can break it down. One Potatoes a family 225 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: meal delivery company, so you can get up to three dinners, 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: bento boxes, fully prepared smoothies, lunches, everything. The meal are 227 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: made to be very DIY and that you know, if 228 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: you have a kid that just hates carrots, but you 229 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: want to make this meal, you can just leave the 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: carrots at It's not a big deal. 231 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: I just can't believe what your children need, Like I 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: can't believe. 233 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Like I feel like we're doing pretty good, Like I've 234 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: got one who love steak, one who hates steak, one 235 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: who likes salmon, one that's hates salmon, one that likes broccoli, 236 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: one that hates broccoli, but one that loves they both 237 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: love c couvers. 238 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: Like I. 239 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: Every parent has. 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: Their battles to pick right that are just massive triggers 241 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: in themselves. I'm weirdly not completely freaking out that my 242 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: kids don't crush vegetables. Look, do I wish it was different? Sure, Again, 243 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: it's not keeping me up at night. However, there are 244 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: other things for those listening that do keep me up 245 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: at night. But I have a lot of moms that 246 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: this is the battle. This is the worry about what 247 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: are they eating? How much are they eating? 248 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: Is it good for them? Is it healthy? 249 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Are they eating their lunch? What do you tell parents 250 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: and moms you're working at just to deal with the 251 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: stress of this. 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: I think you have to look at it as like 253 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: in three or four day chunks or even seven day chunks, 254 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: because also, let's just remember like little people's dot their 255 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: system is just developing and they're trying to figure it out. 256 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: And you may have a child that just can't poop, 257 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: and so they're like, I'm constipated, but they don't know 258 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: that they're constipating. You're like, why aren't you eating? Do 259 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 2: you not like this? There's so much self loathing and 260 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: so much like emotional stuff that goes into it, and 261 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: I think you have to just let it go sometimes. 262 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: That's why I like the DIY because make a bunch 263 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: of foods and hope that like Timmy eats broccoli on 264 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: Tuesday and Wednesday, but maybe he's just not feeling it 265 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: on the next two days. I think that you have 266 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: to look at every week as like an overall win 267 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: and not as like every meal. There's so much pressure. Sure, 268 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: and you can even do things which I've seen incentivizing 269 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: some kids, and like everyone has a different kid that 270 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: everyone's different with this, but like we did a palm 271 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: palm jar for a whole different thing, but you can 272 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: do a pom pom jar for food. Like you're gonna 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: get a palm palm for every new vegetable you try, 274 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: and when the jar is filled up, you we're gonna 275 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: go like a special day to I don't know, the park. 276 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be food related, or it can 277 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: be a cake party. We're gonna get a special cake 278 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: for you. Or kids are very visual in that they 279 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: can see that win. Oh my god, I ate all 280 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: those different vegetables. 281 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: So you're you're putting the stress on exposure versus like 282 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: actually enjoying. 283 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: It's like actually trying things. 284 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: But what you just said, like my child only likes 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: cucumbers and carrots, I'm like, that's awesome. Cucumbers and carrots 286 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: are two highly nutritious foods. Sure that those are wins. 287 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: Instead of being like that's all they eat, look at it. 288 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Spin it into a positive and every time that they 289 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: your child now eats cucumber's, carrots and broccoli. You want 290 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: kids to feel empowered when you start to think that you, 291 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: as a parent, are responsible for twenty one meals plus 292 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: snacks per child for eighteen years. It's the one thing 293 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: you cannot get away from unless you know your kid 294 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: is like stealing the keys to your car. Like the 295 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: reason that all the cheese It's got in your house 296 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: was because of you. We have to take some responsibility 297 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: but also be easier on ourselves. 298 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: Totally. Did you have cheese its or goldfish in your house? 299 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: No? I make them homemade. 300 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: Oh my god, get the fuck out of here, goodbye. No, 301 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. It's amazing. 302 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: But wait a minute. Here's my hack is I make 303 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: a ton of them and then I freeze them, so 304 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: you pop them out and then they defrost in thirty seconds. 305 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: You have them all the time, but you only make 306 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: one batch like a month or every month or two. 307 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: And they are actually as good as of regular ass goldfish. 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: They're better, but because they're made with homemade cheese, like 309 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: real good. 310 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: My dad is watering. 311 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: I love it so good, They're so good. 312 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: Talk to me about reward based food stuff? Is that 313 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: like the no go in your house. I don't think 314 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: anyone knew in the eighties or nineties that this could 315 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: equal out into food issues. And my husband and I 316 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: are two products of that, where like, Okay, you had 317 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the greatest thing happen, you get some fucking junk food. 318 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Or you had the worst day of your life, guess 319 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: what you get to go house? An Italian meal and 320 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a canoli whatever it is. 321 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 322 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: But like we either the best and the worst are 323 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: both rewarded with food. Talk to me on this topic. 324 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: I think it's very specific person a person. I think 325 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: that if you can somehow I'll wrap it into less 326 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: reward and being like should we go get an ice 327 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: cream tonight or should we have donut Friday? 328 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a tradition, like a routine versus like because 329 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: you got this, you get this. 330 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: But I'm personally a bigger fan of that. We don't 331 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: really do any reward based food, but I do understand 332 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: the idea of it, and like why we do it 333 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: because it's something all the time, and it's sweet and 334 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: it feels good, and it builds so much excitement in 335 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: kids that it's somehow like between like a janky gift 336 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: a piece of plastic and an ice cream. People tend 337 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: to just be like, oh, the ice cream is easier. 338 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to I don't think it's that we try 339 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: not to do it. It's more we unconsciously really don't do. 340 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: It, which is probably good in the better in the 341 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: long run. 342 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: With everything with your kids, you like wishing we could 343 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: rewind it and be like, oh, why didn't we just 344 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: start this habit earlier. 345 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: On when you can now like people listening to us, 346 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to get inspired, like I'm sitting here, like, fuck, 347 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: I have a five year old. 348 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: It's too late. It's too late, Ruin. No body is 349 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: just built on goldfish in a prayer. 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: No. But I mean that's why I've always loved like 351 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: cooking with kids, because I think that more than anything, 352 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: it goes back to the point of like it's showing 353 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: up on their plate once they understand like how what 354 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: it takes to make something, and that it's all kids 355 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: want is to spend time with their parents. Period the 356 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: end yes, period, they act out because they're like, look 357 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: at me, I want to tench yes, I just want 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: attention because you're on your phone, you're working, Please be 359 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: with me. Making time to cook with your kids as 360 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: often as possible, letting them participate in dinner. Here, can 361 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: you sprinkle the vinagrette on the sala? Can you sprinkle 362 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: some salt on something? The tiniest job makes kids at 363 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: a dinner table, then be like when someone goes, oh 364 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: this is delicious, be like, yeah, Timmy helped with that, 365 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: and then Timmy feels awesome. So now Timmy's like I 366 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: should eat it because I made it. And just build 367 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: them up, make them feel powerful without in those little. 368 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Jobs great call. I remember even my son like he's 369 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: terrible at it. But I'm like, do you want to 370 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: help the fact that he's like, yeah, I want to 371 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: help set the table? That's crazy and it's with crap 372 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: like it's with horrible, like my table setting. Don't put 373 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: in your head that anything looks remotely cute. 374 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: Oh no no, but even table settings like I see 375 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: it could be paper napkins and paper plates. Who cares 376 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: like it? Let them get creative because that's a funny 377 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: one because even on Thanksgiving, my kids get like really 378 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: into it, and my mother would always be like, they 379 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: need to use the nice china, they need to use 380 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: the nice napkins. I'm like, I could care less. Let 381 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: them make it look like Disney in there, yes, because 382 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: they take so much pride and that's tradition to a kid. 383 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: What is your advice for the moms like me who 384 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: are not good at cooking and don't enjoy it. I mean, 385 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I like baking with my son, and I am good 386 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: at copying your lunchboxes, which I want to get to 387 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: because I think it's remarkable. But like, I literally can't 388 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: make the dinners you're making. 389 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: I make. 390 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: I can make a scrambled egg, a frozen waffle, a 391 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: pasta in a water with a can of sauce, like 392 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: I can't. I just am lost, Like I'm lost. 393 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: So you're gonna get your kids, your spouse or whatever. 394 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: Everyone needs to make a list of their ten favorite 395 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: foods and you're gonna keep those on hand at all times. 396 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: It could be tortillas, cheese, and cucumbers, and so you're 397 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: gonna make Caesa das. I am actually quite as simple 398 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: cook like Welicious is all built on like simple, easy recipes, 399 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: and I hate doing dishes, so it has to be 400 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: like as few dishes as possible and think about just 401 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: like this most simple, two three, four ingredient foods that 402 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: you can possibly make up. That's why the DIY situation 403 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: just like having things a few things cut up because 404 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: kids like you don't have to cook for them, you'd 405 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 2: be shocked, like my kids are, Like, give them a thing, 406 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: a hummus and some vegetables and they will cruise through it. 407 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like this extraordinary meal every night. 408 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: There's no problem with buying a rotisserie chicken. 409 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: We do spaghetti once a week, non negotiable with the 410 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: side of broccoli, Like that's it unctual. And also I 411 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: have to say the only thing I do do, which 412 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: I is a tip for anyone listening who's also not 413 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: a cook. When my kids get home from school, they're 414 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: like the most hungry four o'clock and I try to 415 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: put out dinner around five thirty, but sometimes it's more 416 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: pushing six and I put out a huge platter that 417 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: I've already cut up at the beginning of the week 418 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: of the cut up peppers, cucumbers, carrots, some snap peas, 419 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: and a shitload of organic ranch dressing. My kids freaking 420 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: love ranch and I don't care. And they just shovel 421 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: in like a ton of vegetables that way, and so 422 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: that by the time I get to dinner, if they 423 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: carbo load here and they're just having the spaghetti in 424 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: the wheels and maybe I don't know what we're doing 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: for protein, but whatever, I feel like at least I 426 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: did something. 427 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: Okay, No, But by the way, that's the hottest tip 428 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: known to man. Feed those like little rat is thing 429 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: when they're starving, give them the vegetables, give them the 430 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: foods that because they're so hungry, they're much more apt 431 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: to eat it then than at dinner time with all 432 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: the pressure on them. 433 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, that's when my daughter started trying like raw 434 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: green beans. Like she finally was like yes, thank you God. 435 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: And then the next day it was over. By the way, 436 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: people listening, it's like, nope, we're back to eating green beans. 437 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: That was a miracle. I don't know what happened. But 438 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: then try it again, right. 439 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: Yes, no, grow them be like I saw you eat 440 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: green beans. Should we grow some green beans? Should we 441 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: grow some basil. We have like a garden tower that 442 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: we grow stuff and I'll pick herbs off. That's cool. 443 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: And I'm a passion fruit nerd, so we have like 444 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: literally hundreds of passion fruit dropping for mercy. But whatever, 445 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: wherever you live, lemon's grapefruit. That stuff can go wild. 446 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: It's a little bit easier. But go to the farmer's 447 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: market because like the farmers, they cannot wait for that 448 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: little two year old adorableness to walk up and be like, 449 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: be interested, and they'll hand it to them. That's our thing, 450 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: like we instead of church, we go to the farmer's 451 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: market on Sundays. 452 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Oh, that's your thing. 453 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: My kids work at the farmer's market. Now. They both 454 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: have jobs. Yeah, they've been. My son's been working there 455 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: for two years and my daughter a year. They work, Yeah, 456 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: every Sunday. It's real fun. Do they do? 457 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: What are their jobs? 458 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: They sell sweet potatoes and scallions and gar Like my 459 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: son wanted a car and so he's I was like, 460 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: you got to work for it. I got to work 461 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: for it. 462 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Do you do dessert every day? Every night? Never? 463 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: What's your dessert deal in the house? 464 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is actually much more personal than psychology psychiatry. 465 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: My mother, like dessert was super taboo in my house. 466 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: Sugar was very taboo, so I think it made me 467 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: a bit of a hoarder as like I was like 468 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: donuts and like ice cream, like I would do anything 469 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: to get it. So I was very conscious in raising 470 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: my children that I was not going to do that. 471 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: I would say every night, we have dessert. But dessert 472 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: they may be like I want an orange, I want 473 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: we make a lot of ice cream, so it's it's 474 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: almost like a smoothie with less milk, so just pur it. 475 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: It's like tastes like ice cream, but it's like really 476 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: just period fruit and some you can. I we add 477 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: frozen cauliflower. But I think dessert is like you made 478 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: it through the day. I don't know something sweet. 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't understand. 480 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm so impressed by my friends who are like, oh, 481 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: like dessert isn't a thing in our house, Like we 482 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: just finished dinner and we're done, and I'm like, wow, 483 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: that's so amazing, Like I can't do that, Like I'm sure, shit, 484 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: don't expect my children to do that. Like I also 485 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: like to have my little cookie or my little dark chocolate. 486 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm like that. 487 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: And again that isn't a trigger for me. It might 488 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: be for some of the people listening. Do you what's 489 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: the vocabulary you use in your household around this is healthy? 490 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: This is not healthy? What do you say? 491 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: I think we do a lot of what is your 492 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: body feeling? And does that kind of feel good in 493 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: your body? I think Jem's grown My littlest has grown 494 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: up definitely hearing that the most your body needs. I 495 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: didn't make this up as science. Like flour sugar, it's 496 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: gonna make you tired, You're gonna crash. So I've always 497 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: tried to get away from bread first thing in the morning. 498 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: It is the hardest thing in the American breakfast, Like 499 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: American breakfast is just like a bagel, a waffle. It's 500 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: really it's a part. That's why I wrote the Smoothie Project, 501 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: because having a smoothie is really what you should do, 502 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: because it's just true vegetable and protein. And so you're like, 503 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: you're sending your kids to school, they're already tired most likely, 504 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: and you're on a focus for eight hours. You'll be fine. 505 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: It's yeah, they're totally they get there dead to the world. 506 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: Wow, I never even thought about that. What a great. 507 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids are definitely like frozen waffle bagel cereal, Jesus, 508 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: if you. 509 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: Can prep smoothies the night before, like in a bag, 510 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean in a bag and so you just dump 511 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: it into the blender, like frozen fruits and vegetables whatever. 512 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: We have a smoothie station so like literally it's like, well, 513 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: it takes me two seconds. Jemma's my seven year old, 514 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: she's grown up on it, so it's like her thing. 515 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: She loves it. And my older kids definitely my daughter 516 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: and my son. 517 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: Many days, God, I gotta get back out. We went 518 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: through a smoothie phase and then I like forgot about it. 519 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: But what's interesting a smoothie station. See when you put 520 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: the blender away, which ours is away. It's a sort 521 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: of a bad idea because you a forget about it, 522 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: but be you like never want to take it out 523 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: and clean it and all this shit. But you're right, 524 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: it should really just be. It should live out there. 525 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So envision your kitchen. What small kitchen appliances. 526 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Sit out teapot which I use all day, okay, the 527 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: like air fryer, toaster every day best, well, a coffee maker, 528 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: but none of us drink coffee. 529 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: It's more friarity. 530 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: But that's very important. 531 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: A lot of the utensils and stuff that we don't use. Yeah, 532 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: I should put a freaking blender out there and I 533 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: might use it all the time. 534 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know glender like one of those little magic 535 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: bullets or something. You just think about all the foods 536 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: you can get, like we literally like a blueberry cheese smoothie, 537 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: so chias heats, frozen blueberries, call a flower or spinach. 538 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: You don't taste it and it's call far is more 539 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: protein cup for cup than any other vegetable. 540 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: This is great. 541 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do this for breakfast because 542 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: we are in the worst thing going on right now. 543 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Bad. If you want to hear something embarrassing my children 544 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: and I have to stop. It's my fault. 545 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: My children went through like a big boycott breakfast problem right. 546 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: Like eating like breakfast no interesting. 547 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: Also because my kids are big milk they like milk, 548 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: got it? 549 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: No fair fair so, but like when they're having a 550 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit of milk with breakfast, which when does that stop? 551 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: I got to talk to the pediatrician he's five, What 552 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: the fuck am I doing? 553 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Tea. 554 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: It's the teeth. 555 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: It's the teeth that's the reason not to talk to 556 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: the dentister versus the pediatrician. The dentist will be. 557 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: Like, get the milk out because it's all sugar. 558 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: Because it's all sugar. But do this, okay, I'll trade 559 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: you here. Ask them, would they what color milk they'd like? 560 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: Or my daughters love chocolate peanut butter smoothie and all 561 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: that is cocoa powder, which has no sugar, So figure 562 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: because then you can keep their milk but you can 563 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: get some more like nutrition in there. 564 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: Wow, guys, this is all huge. I'm so impressed when 565 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: I take my son to school and people have these 566 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: thermoses filled with like incredible tortolini's with shit, and I'm like, 567 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: excuse me, what it's turkey sandwich or peanut butter and 568 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: jelly sandwich. I don't know what we're doing here. Sometimes 569 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: they might be cut into a shade, but like, thank god, 570 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: my kid loves a sandwich, loves it, and how weird 571 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: it's so boring. 572 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: I love a sandwich. That's why I would eat peanut 573 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: butter and jelly every day of my life. 574 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: He goes back and forth, peanut butter and jelly or 575 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: a turkey sandwich, and he loves it, and it's always gone, 576 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: it's never in there. 577 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: What's on the turkey sand much? 578 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: It's so easy, it's seated. Dave's Killer bread. 579 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: He likes I sometimes. I do vegan as sometimes and 580 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: he likes straight up Helman's. 581 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Mayonnaise, A man after my own heart. 582 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: And then he likes jelly turkey, and he loves romaine. 583 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: But it has to be a Caesar salad. He loves 584 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: the Caesar. 585 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, there's so many rules kids. 586 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: Have, so many kids are but Natas like, why. 587 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: So many rules? Okay? I like him. 588 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I would do his, but the bread would have to 589 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: be toasted, and there'd have to be a ton of romaine. 590 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: There'd also have to be mayo and mustard, maybe a 591 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: little bit of avocado and then tomato. 592 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh delicious. 593 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: My yeah. My middle daughter, she's a thermist. She's a 594 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: hot thermist kid. 595 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: What's in the thermos? 596 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: It's always different. Her big one is gioza, And I'm 597 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: just gonna tell you, I absolutely do go to Trader 598 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: Joe's and buy those gioza and put them in my 599 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: air fryer in the morning. 600 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're delicious. 601 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, two things, any advice or parents who are packing 602 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: lunches for their first time kindergartener, which I'm about to do. 603 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: And also let's do start there. 604 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Let's just remember that there's now more kids at lunch. 605 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: There's so much sensory stuff. All they want to do 606 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: is go play. Food is the last thing they're thinking about. 607 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: That is for the majority of kids, not all not 608 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: a full roll. Make it very easy for them. I 609 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: would always think about how are you going to get 610 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: the most nutrients in every single bite? So like raw fruits, 611 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: raw vegetables. I mean, the reason I like sushi sandwiches, 612 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: which is where you roll at the bread and you 613 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: fill it and roll it and cut them into little 614 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: wheels is it's much easy exact them. Bastard gets it 615 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: in cheese stick like whatever it is. Don't overwhelm them, 616 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: don't make it hard for them. Don't make anything where 617 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: they have to like peel stuff off, like make it easy. 618 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: Do a bento box so immediately you see all of 619 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: your choices, because you'd be shocked that sometimes kids will 620 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: end up eating the cucumber for the cookie. Because I 621 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: don't know. Their bodies are different than ours. 622 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: We thirsty. They're thirsty, and they just wanted something else exactly. 623 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: I used to be so upset my kid. 624 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I always put a little if it's like a Justin's 625 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: peanut butter cup or something, and my nursery school teachers 626 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: are like, he always eats that first, and I'm like yeah, 627 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: and then he eats his lunch. 628 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm like what again. I think it's 629 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: for some people. 630 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: I hear moms in my life like you cannot have 631 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: that until you have something else, or a lot of 632 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: the language between like you're not getting up until you 633 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: have one more bite. And we went down that path 634 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks and it felt really icky 635 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: to me, and it felt just not how we parent. 636 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: But again, again, this is such a personal thing for people, 637 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: like I think this is I think food and being. 638 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: A parent is so hard. There's so much of your 639 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: own stuff, there's so much about how you were raised. 640 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: Food fights, it's the worst. You have to just remember that. 641 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: Like the goal of meal time, especially when your kids 642 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: are little and all the time, is to be together, 643 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: to spend time together. If you are offering good food, 644 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: they will eat the good food. It's just a matter 645 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: of what the foods are. And just make it simple 646 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: cheese stick and some crackers and a handful of strawberries. Fine, 647 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: that's fine, you don't have to make spend two hours 648 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: making enchiladas that no one's gonna eat. Also, let them 649 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: go to the grocery. Let them go to the farmer's 650 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: market and pick one new food. Like my seven year 651 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: old surprises me at every turn because she'll be like, oh, 652 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: I want these beach mushrooms. She's like obsessed with beach mushrooms. 653 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: And so I put beach mushrooms in pasta. Now I 654 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: air fry them. She was the one who discovered that. 655 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: I never would have thought that she would be brave 656 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: enough for like willing to try that. So I think 657 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: that letting kids have some power over the discovery. Let's 658 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: go find a food at the grocery. What is it? 659 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to learn about it? How is it grown? 660 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: Where is it grown? Just let kids discover. 661 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: There's just so much respect for the kid themselves, Like 662 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: whether they're diy ing their own food, or they're helping 663 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: you pack their lunches the night before, or they're going 664 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: to the grocery or they're going to the farmer's market, 665 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: like are there helping you actually grow it in the backyard. 666 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: This is all massive. Any advice for parents who are 667 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: starting first foods with their little ones, did you just 668 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: purate all of it yourself. 669 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: With ken yam? My oldest I did curate everything and 670 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: they cut things in little pieces, and then by child 671 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: number two I did a half and half because I 672 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: was exhausted and had to make dinner. And by the 673 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: third kid, I was like, good luck on that, Like 674 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna eat. You're gonna eat what we're eating. So 675 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: there is no wrong way. They all turned out to 676 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: be great eaters. I think that it's just what works 677 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: for you. But I do think get in the early eaters, 678 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: like under twelve months and especially under ten months. It's 679 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: exposure as much as anything, either breast milk or formula. 680 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: And then let's start with avocado and try it for 681 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: a few days. Don't give up. That is the one thing. 682 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: Just because broccoli was spit out day one, keep trying. 683 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 2: Put some toasted sesame seeds on it, put a little 684 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: brags on it, let them eat it in funny ways 685 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: with them. It's all foreign to them at this point, 686 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: So just making it something fun, funny, silly, whatever it is. 687 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: You have a book coming out. I'm so pumped, and 688 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: at the time of this probably releases this recording. It 689 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: will be out so you can get every single place 690 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: books are sold. It's called Meal Prep Magic, Time saving 691 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Tricks for stress free Eating. If this book shit wasn't 692 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: written for me, I don't even know. Tell me about 693 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: this book and how it came to be. 694 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Meal Prep Magic came to be really during the pandem 695 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: because what had happened to me was I was like 696 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: trapped at home, not going to the grocery, and only 697 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: because my husband had bought two hundred and twenty cans 698 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: of beans. 699 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: He just was like, oh the box knocking up. 700 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 701 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: Of course, of course was like, oh my god. 702 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: What am I gonna do with all this? But I 703 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: wrote the book by much more of a category than breakfast, lunch, dinner, Like, 704 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of beans, what are you going 705 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: to do? The biggest idea is that we have so 706 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 2: much stuff clutter in our kitchen. Let's get it out. 707 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: Let's pare it down so that your kitchen is organized, 708 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: so you know where things are, so it moves more efficiently. 709 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: And then meal prepping just being able to meal prep, 710 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: and that really goes to the DIY part. If you 711 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: can spend two hours one day a week prepping different 712 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables, make a batch of rice, make some pasta, 713 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: make some roast chicken, mix and match different meals through 714 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: the week. I'm telling you, it makes life so much easier. 715 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: Meal prep magic everybody. 716 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: That's really what it's all about and what we all need, 717 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: because if we just took a couple hours earlier in 718 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: the week, it would save all that time later in 719 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: the week. What is the favorite lunch meal of each 720 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: of your children that you make from the new cookbook? 721 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: And why ooh, that's actually interesting. One. My son is 722 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: obsessed with this blender banana chocolate chip bread. So you 723 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: just dump everything in a blender. It's so easy and 724 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: it's all gluten free too. Put all the ingredients, so 725 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: oats and bananas and like all the ingredients and then 726 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: you just put into a loaf pan and it's just 727 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: it's so delicious. My littlest one loves the crispy salmon 728 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: burgers because she loves salmon. That's like her biggest one. 729 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: And then what is Kloe like the most? Chloe is 730 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: like my eater that she's like everything. I love it. 731 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: I love it. She's just like anything I put in 732 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 2: front of her she loves. I'll say the overnight Bell 733 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: waffles are pretty amazing, creamy chia pudding, four ways. Oh, 734 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 2: and freezer stash breakfast burritos. You make them, you wrap 735 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: them in foil, you unwrap it, throw it in the 736 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 2: air fryer. So that's what I end up doing. I 737 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: take them in the freezer and you can put them 738 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 2: right in the air fryer or the oven or the toaster, 739 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: or you can put them in a refrigerator and do 740 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: the same thing the next day. But they're all wrapped up. 741 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: They're all like exactly ready about. You can write your 742 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: kid's name. If someone likes cheese, someone likes salsa, and 743 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: they're ready to go, and they're like, especially my daughter 744 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: loves a savory breakfast. That's a good one too. 745 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 3: On the good so delicious. 746 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 747 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: Is there anything you'd like to teach your own children 748 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: that you wished you had or were taught growing up 749 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: in regards to food. 750 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: I think my grandmother was the one who was just 751 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 2: like every all fruits and vegetables were beautiful and they 752 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: were like a gift to our bodies. I think that 753 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: for me, I want my kids to have the connection 754 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 2: of what goes in here, what goes in your mouth 755 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: is good for your body, but it's also good for 756 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 2: your brain. So not thinking of food as a band aid. 757 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: And I had a happy day, I'm gonna eat. I 758 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: had a sad day. I'm gonna eat instead just being like, 759 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: what's like, that's the way that I eat. What's good 760 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: for me is going to help my body run like 761 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: an engine, and like I need my engine to like 762 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: really move. So how do I feed it? 763 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: I love it? I love it. Are your kids having 764 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: any birthdays coming up? 765 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: We just went through a bunch of birthdays. My middle 766 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: daughter her birthdays in a week from today. 767 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: Wow, what would you What advice do you like to 768 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: give your kids as they get closer to their next 769 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: birthday or let's say your daughter. 770 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: I just want my kids to be kind, Just be 771 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 2: kind people. Just be good, good to the earth, good 772 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: to your friends, good to yourself. That's the one thing 773 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: I think we all forget. Be good to yourself. 774 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: Oof, that's a great one. 775 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget that all the time, and we always 776 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: ask people in closing finish the sentence, parenthood is the. 777 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: Hardest thing you'll ever do. I want to be like, 778 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: it's joyful. It's the hardest thing. 779 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: You can say it here. 780 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: It's the hardest thing you'll ever do. And the more 781 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: kids you have, there's you're always catching someone. 782 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't imagine having three. I literally 783 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: cannot imagine it the greatest. 784 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Everybody who's listening, tell us where we can find you 785 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: and the name of your book again. 786 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: At Welicious on all social media, and you can get 787 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: Neil prep Magic absolutely every bookstore and on Amazon. 788 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: It's delicious, Welicious. It's so helpful, inspiring, important, Catherine. I. 789 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 3: I'm so impressed by. 790 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: This whole thing you built, sweet Like it's really amazing. 791 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode. 792 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: I want to hear from you. 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