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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's do live on a first Friday Americal edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bo Ghibbe is here,

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Speaker 2: Tymas Powell is here?

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Speaker 3: TP.

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Speaker 2: How you living?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: This is the town bow to tell you about how

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Speaker 4: yesterday I played basketball.

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Speaker 2: So before we got to hold hold on, hold on

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Speaker 2: TP basketball, I like to write things down.

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Speaker 5: On the ship.

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Speaker 6: This a all?

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Speaker 3: Is this at all?

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Speaker 2: A a A an effect of after the image of

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Speaker 2: you and Jeremiah Smith went kind of viral over the

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Speaker 2: weekend where he looks like he could swallow you for lunch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I realized that I need to really get

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Speaker 4: back in the gym.

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Speaker 5: That he motivated me, you know, because this for the.

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Speaker 4: First time, for the first time, I stood next to

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Speaker 4: an individual and I thought to him myself, I don't

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Speaker 4: think I could check that guy. So I had to

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Speaker 4: I had to get my I had to test my athleticism.

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Speaker 4: So I decided to go play basketball. Now, before I

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Speaker 4: get to before I tell you how it went. Three

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, I sprained my wrists while playing basketball, so

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Speaker 4: I've been kind of out rehabbing that because you know,

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Speaker 4: you got to be ready to go. I needed to

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Speaker 4: be able to hit that jumper. Well, I went out

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Speaker 4: there yesterday and I you know, I'm gonna compare myself

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Speaker 4: to a player like I always get home and I

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Speaker 4: tell my wife who I played like.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not kidding you when I say this.

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Speaker 4: If I could compare my game yesterday to somebody, it

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Speaker 4: was like Kobe Bryant. That that's who I Probably if

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Speaker 4: you was there, you would have been like, man, he

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Speaker 4: looked just like Kobe. I'm just seven year old. No,

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Speaker 4: these was These was grown men. These they got wives

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Speaker 4: and kids as well. So wait a second, I'm just

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Speaker 4: bo I'm just telling you, like, I'm not a six

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Speaker 4: years humbly, humbly, I was.

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Speaker 3: Like Kobe Bryant. Continue, Okay, so this is let me explain.

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Speaker 4: I was able to drive to the whole and I

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Speaker 4: finished at a hot clip like this. It was unbelievable

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Speaker 4: how good I finished at the cup. Okay, then my

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Speaker 4: turnaround jumper, like when I was a kid in high school,

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Speaker 4: like I used to watch I used to watch Kobe

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Speaker 4: Bryant and Michael Jordan do this turnaround jumper. So I

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Speaker 4: put it in my bag when I was in like

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Speaker 4: the tenth grade, and it became unstoppable. So when I

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Speaker 4: backed them up, like when I got in the paint,

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Speaker 4: I called the ball and they threw it to me

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Speaker 4: and I had to turn around like it was ninety

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Speaker 4: percent going in bo like that's how good it was.

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Speaker 4: And then yes, yesterday, and then at the three point line.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't tell you that I'm the greatest.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like Mike or Kobe was the greatest three

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Speaker 4: point shooter. But when you need it in a clutch situation,

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Speaker 4: like we were down, We're going ones in twos, we

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Speaker 4: was going to twelve, we was down by, we was

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Speaker 4: down ten to eight, and every time we was in

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Speaker 4: that position, I would hit this shot to give us

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Speaker 4: the tie game.

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Speaker 5: It was just like that clutch meter was just there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, okay, I've seen you

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Speaker 2: play basketball, I've seen you shoot a basketball. I'm just

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Speaker 2: telling you I find this improbable. Now I need I

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Speaker 2: need to know where you played and who you played with. Okay,

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Speaker 2: pacifics you said grown men married, yep, I what.

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Speaker 4: Is our age group? Is this like my beat up

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Speaker 4: on forty year olds? Like, no, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 4: I would say that it was. It was probably one

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Speaker 3: We had one.

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Speaker 4: We had probably two guys that were under thirty there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is a good it was.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 5: It's a It's a league.

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Speaker 4: That you tried, like when you're trying to get back

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Speaker 4: to being good, when you're trying to get back into

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Speaker 4: the swing of things. This is who you play up against.

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Speaker 4: It's those type of guys.

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Speaker 2: Are there any more Division one athletes there? Former?

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Speaker 3: I plead the fifth, No stiff? Your at your former intern?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's running around playing a bunch of stiffs from

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Speaker 2: old Tangy.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get back, but I haven't played in

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Speaker 4: a while, so I'm trying to get Were you sore?

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Speaker 4: Were you sore? So that's the that's the funny you asked,

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Speaker 4: because I wore I wore a knee break on my

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Speaker 4: left knee, and when I woke up this morning, both

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Speaker 4: knees were like messed up, Like it was hard for

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Speaker 4: me to walk up and down the stairs. But you

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Speaker 4: couldn't tell yesterday. But like I was like zero to

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Speaker 4: one hundred on fast breaks. People was getting out the

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Speaker 4: way it was. I felt like Lebron.

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Speaker 2: I bet you did. Yeah, well you're Lebron and Kobe,

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Speaker 2: so this is a high level.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, minutes the first five minutes

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Speaker 3: of the show, he's dropped a Kobe and a Lebron.

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Speaker 5: I'm just listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, what.

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Speaker 5: Was the fit was?

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Speaker 2: What was your fit? What were you s?

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Speaker 4: Yesterday? I had on some Lebron shoes. I had those

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Speaker 4: highs highs. I couldn't I can't do.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to. I don't want to mess up

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Speaker 5: the ankle.

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Speaker 2: Which Lebron's what which which incarnation?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know the number. I don't know the number.

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Speaker 2: But the older ones, Yeah, because he went to a

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Speaker 2: little bit more of a low profile, lighter shoe. In

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Speaker 2: the last three or four years before that, they were

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Speaker 2: like having tanks on your feet.

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Speaker 4: I didn't Yeah, these are these actually pretty light? They

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Speaker 4: look heavy, but they actually pretty light. Had those on.

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Speaker 4: Had the NBA you know, the NBA Elite socks, you know,

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Speaker 4: scrunch them up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Had to had to.

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Speaker 4: The tights on, you know, pulled the tights up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: put the tights on, just the not the not the

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Speaker 4: full length, one of the three quarters ones. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: you showed just like a little bit of skin, just

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Speaker 4: a little little slit of skin, okay.

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Speaker 3: Had the Jordan's shorts on.

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Speaker 4: And then I wore my tight my uh you know

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Speaker 4: Cardell does his softball game. I wore that jersey on

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Speaker 4: top of that with your name on it, with my

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Speaker 4: with pile on the back, with Buckeye stickers all on

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Speaker 4: the shirt. I'm telling you, I was like that. It

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Speaker 4: was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It was. I definitely looked.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, let's just say, if you was you

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Speaker 4: know how you got to pick the kids who you

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Speaker 4: want to pick on your team, if you would have

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Speaker 4: saw me, I would have been the first pick.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. I was just at the

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Speaker 2: this past weekend. They spent the majority of my weekend

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Speaker 2: Drew Joyce Classic at the i X Center. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I saw we were doing the au with the boys.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, everything you're wearing is out.

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Speaker 2: What you've gotten old.

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Speaker 4: Wow, don't tell me that, sorry, because you're trying to

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Speaker 4: put me in the boat with you.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No no no. I'm just saying this. I'm not putting you

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Speaker 2: in a boat with me. I'm saying you're closer to

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Speaker 2: me than you are with the kids playing aau.

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Speaker 5: What the what's the kids wearing?

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Speaker 2: Tights are out?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 3: Tights are out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Wearing pants?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, tights scrunch socks.

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Speaker 5: You're kidding me. That was my thing to do back

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Speaker 5: in the day.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you've gotten old long shorts out. Shorts are high.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold on my shorts. But they above

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Speaker 4: the kneecap. Mine's is a buddy, ca that's long.

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Speaker 2: They want like a five inch in seam. Now, these kids,

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing. They want like a five inch in seam.

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Speaker 5: These kids those are called running shorts. That's just for sprinters.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're playing hoops in. Now, buddy, I was

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Speaker 2: just there.

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Speaker 3: I saw it.

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Speaker 2: You're closer to me than you are to the kids.

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Speaker 2: That's now.

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Speaker 4: You've got old, No, bo, I'm thirty one like I

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Speaker 4: got thirty is the new twenty.

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Speaker 5: So we good.

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Speaker 2: You be careful. I used to play. I used to

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Speaker 2: play I've told this story until I was I used

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Speaker 2: to play every like three times a week in the morning,

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Speaker 2: was even five thirty to seven, I can't remember. Used

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Speaker 2: to do it three times a week. And I was

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Speaker 2: watching NBA Boogey Cousins with the Saints or with the

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Speaker 2: Pelicans with Anthony Davis, and I was watching live when

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Speaker 2: he tore his achilles, and I remember Mike Breen, I

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Speaker 2: want to say, it was on the call and he said,

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Speaker 2: and one of the analysts said, that is a full

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Speaker 2: year recovery.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I've just thought to myself, all right, you're a man,

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Speaker 2: you're forty. Boogie Cousins is in the prime of his

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Speaker 2: life and the torn achilles is on the shelf for

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Speaker 2: a year. If you tear an achilles, you're just gonna

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Speaker 2: forget walking like it's just done. We're not rehabbing it.

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Speaker 3: Bo.

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Speaker 4: You you can't go into it with those type of thoughts. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I stretched out, which is which is wild? Because if

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Speaker 4: you know me, I'm a cheata. Cheetahs don't stretch. But

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Speaker 4: I did last night. I had to last night, and I.

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Speaker 3: I did not. That's I should have.

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Speaker 4: The last time I hooped, I did put ice on

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Speaker 4: my knees and I felt better the next day. This time,

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Speaker 4: I tried to power through it because I thought I

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Speaker 4: was still young. You know, back in the day you

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Speaker 4: could get away with it. Now, yeah, I'm still feeling it.

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Speaker 4: See here's what you have to worry about. This is

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Speaker 4: what got me. Some five foot one little guy that

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Speaker 4: thinks he wants to mix it up with all the

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Speaker 4: people that are five eight or taller, and he gets

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Speaker 4: underneath you trying to get a rebound and takes you out.

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Speaker 8: See that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. You

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Speaker 8: got it in there, I'm gonna happen to me. I

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Speaker 8: was playing on an interns rec league team. You gotta

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Speaker 8: take you gotta follow my This is my advice.

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Speaker 2: You want to pick up basketball, you gotta run three

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Speaker 2: point line to three point line.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the thing. Bo I am like shocking

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Speaker 2: I love this already. Oh I didn't even tell my wife.

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be me cleaning.

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Speaker 3: Your youngest one is worried about bird flu.

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Speaker 2: He's worried about bird flu. No one else is, but

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Speaker 3: My wife, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: That's what you have to look forward to.

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Speaker 4: Out of his whole story, the thing I thought about

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Speaker 3: You're the mayor.

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Speaker 5: At All I think about is if it's a spider

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Speaker 3: Snakes, anything else I scared to out there. But the snake,

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Speaker 2: So your snakes are my birds. I'm not scared of snakes.

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Speaker 2: I'm not scared of spiders, none of it. Birds get me.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's weird.

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Speaker 2: I'll get one of these days. I'll tell you the

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Speaker 2: we've got some comments. We're picking number two in eight days. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I saw that the Browns went all out and showing

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Speaker 2: I even read something that they took you and Travis

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Speaker 5: Side by side.

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Speaker 9: And I know Draft day, I know it should be

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that? And by the way,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean out of that, what I make

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Speaker 4: that's just the far gone conclusion. I think that it

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Speaker 5: So I think it's the right thing.

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Speaker 4: trade up in the first round back in the first

441
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Speaker 4: round to get somebody or at thirty three they might

442
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Speaker 4: be able to get a mill Roll or Tyler Schuck

443
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 4: or somebody like that and still be good.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the the pushback that I always have

445
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: on the quarterback stuff is like when people say there's

446
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: only one elite prospect, well, how do you know? And

447
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: the reality is nobody knows anything. They that's true if

448
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 2: they would have known, if they would have known, Lamar

449
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: Jackson would have been the last pick in the first round.

450
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Speaker 3: I agree, like there isn't known.

451
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: So I think what I and I said this yesterday

452
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: on the show with your odd I just want and

453
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: because this has been a steel trap, there's nothing coming

454
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: out of here. There's no information, there are no leaks,

455
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 2: it's nothing, there's nothing, So nobody knows anything. Anybody who

456
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: gets on there, Oh, this is what they're gonna do.

457
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 2: They don't know. They trust me, they don't. So what

458
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: I came yesterday, what I said was I just want

459
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: you think about ab You think about Kevin, You think

460
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: about the brain trust. They've been entrusted by ownership to

461
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 2: make these picks, and this is a critical draft for us.

462
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Speaker 2: Take picks that you are that you have conviction of. Yeah,

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 2: take guys you love, right, You don't know, this is

464
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: a very short time that you were in these jobs.

465
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Speaker 2: Even the people were in for a long time, they're

466
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: not in them for that long. You got it. I

467
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: would be able to sleep well at night knowing I

468
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: took a guy I believed in. Did it work out?

469
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it didn't, But we did our due diligence. This

470
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: is who we loved and we stuck to that. And

471
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Speaker 2: I think if you do that, at least you can

472
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Speaker 2: sleep well at night. Because there are no sure things

473
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Speaker 2: in the NFL draft. They don't exist.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always a crapshoot every time you go out there.

475
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: It's all about the development, you know. I think that

476
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: why the Travis Hunter thing makes the most sense for

477
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: me at two is because I feel like develop wise,

478
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Speaker 4: like he has all the traits of being a really

479
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Speaker 4: good football player. Now he got a critique a couple

480
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 4: of things offensively and defensively to be considered elite.

481
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Speaker 5: But that's that's what you pay the coaches to do.

482
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: That's what these coaches are here for is to help him,

483
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 4: coach him out of those little things. And it's when

484
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Speaker 4: I watched the film and I did a breakdown on him.

485
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Speaker 4: It's only a couple of things that he does as

486
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Speaker 4: a dB, and I'm like, if he does if he

487
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Speaker 4: changes this, he will be fine.

488
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Speaker 5: He'd be one of the best in the league.

489
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Speaker 4: And it's up to the coaching staff of the Browns

490
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Speaker 4: to make sure that that happens. And likewise, same thing

491
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Speaker 4: with the quarterbacks. You know, everybody talks about these quarterbacks

492
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 4: aren't that great. But if you identify a skill set

493
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: that this guy has and you're like, you know what,

494
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: if I get with him and I talk with him,

495
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: I can help him fix that and he'll be a

496
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Speaker 4: really good player. If you believe that and you know

497
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Speaker 4: that you can get that, that's the guy that you

498
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Speaker 4: should take for your quarterback.

499
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Speaker 2: What would you if it is trav What would you

500
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: have him do first? Because I think if it's here

501
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: or anywhere, he's gonna play both. I don't think there's

502
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Speaker 2: any question he's going to play both. He's good enough to.

503
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: He's done his whole life. He can't do him both

504
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: full time. So what you're gonna have to get one

505
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: thing first? What's the one thing you would do first

506
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Speaker 2: with him?

507
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Speaker 4: I think I would start him at a wide receiver

508
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: because I think that's the bigger need for the Browns

509
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 4: right now is to have another wide receiver outside of

510
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy and David Nijoku. So I think I would

511
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: start him at wide receiver and maybe bring him in

512
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: a couple of times on defense, you know, to maybe

513
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 4: do some maybe we run five or six dbs out there.

514
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: I think he is a great playmaker. I think, to

515
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Speaker 4: be honest with you, I believe that he's a better

516
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Speaker 4: dB than wide receiver. I know everybody's going back and

517
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Speaker 4: forth with it. I know ab he has spoken publicly

518
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: and said that he likes the more as a wide

519
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: receiver than a dB. But when I watch him as

520
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: a dB, like, I can't deny the ball skills, the instincts,

521
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: the speed, All of that stuff is gonna make him

522
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: an elite talent to where on the offensive side of

523
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Speaker 4: the ball. You know, it's so many other things that

524
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 4: has to go into your favor to be successful. Or

525
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: you got to have a good quarterback, you gotta have

526
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: a great protection, all of those things. So if you

527
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: go to dB, I think that one. I think he

528
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: can be one of those guys that can prorely lock

529
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Speaker 4: down anybody. There will be nobody that he goes up

530
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Speaker 4: against that's a better athlete than him. So I think

531
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Speaker 4: athlete for athlete, he'll be able to match up with

532
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Speaker 4: everybody in the league. And I think that that's when

533
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: he gets the when the ball is in the air.

534
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Speaker 4: The way he plays that football, he plays it like

535
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Speaker 4: he's the wide receiver. That's something that makes you extremely

536
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: dangerous as a dB. And I always tell everybody, you know,

537
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: we talk about guys that get PBUs like, don't throw

538
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: at that guy. No offensive coordinator will continue to throw

539
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: at you if you're just gonna knock the ball down,

540
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 4: if you're going to intercept the ball, Okay, now we

541
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 4: can't go we can't go to that guy. We're not

542
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: even gonna go to his side. Because he's going to

543
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: take the ball away and we're not going to have

544
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: a chance to score. So he, to me, can be

545
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: one of those guys that can be one of the

546
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: top corners in his.

547
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Speaker 5: League because he will take the football away.

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting because when when you envision, you try

549
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: to envision like if he is the pick, what does

550
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: it look like? And you know, it's kind of to

551
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: me it feels like positionally he's just weapon. So offensively,

552
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 2: like I don't know does he have to play? Does

553
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: he have to run a route on every down? No,

554
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't envision that. I envisioned it

555
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: on a package of plays where where he does and

556
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: sometimes he's a decoy and sometimes he's the actual intended

557
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: target or the play it schemed up for. And I

558
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: think the same defensively, like when you're in clearly like

559
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: to your as you just articulated, he can come in

560
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: and play man coverage. Yeah, and let's go like what

561
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: Dunzell I mean, good lord, you got him? MJ denzelf

562
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: knew some m you got It's a ton of corners. Yeah, right,

563
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: So like and then same thing defensively, like obvious passing

564
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: downs there's to me. I think he could play a

565
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: bunch of plays both ways without having to say like, yeah,

566
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm playing every offensive play and then I'm gonna play

567
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: fifteen defensive plays. Maybe it's just more of an even split.

568
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
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Speaker 4: The only challenge for him is that you know, I

570
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: heard him going to podcast and he says, there's twenty

571
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: four hours in the day. You need eight hours to sleep.

572
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: Sixteen of those other hours is me dedicated to football.

573
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: And you think about him, and I keep saying that

574
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: he's not the perfect prospect as a wide receiver nor

575
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: as a dB, but he's never had the time to

576
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: really focus solely on one. My thing is those things

577
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 4: that he needs to clean up. Like I told you,

578
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: he does a false step when he's pressing, which that's fine,

579
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: you could be coached out of that. When he plays

580
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 4: cover two, he used his athleticism a lot to where

581
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: he tries to he tries to debate a lot of

582
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks, and I don't know necessary if he's gonna

583
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: get away with that same bait in the NFL, because

584
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks are just too good. You can't really bait it.

585
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 4: You got to be actually be in your spot and

586
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: hope that they try. You you got to make them pay.

587
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: And as to why receiver, some of the things to

588
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: me is that route running. He's got to be able

589
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: to create some more separation in his routes. But the

590
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: thing is, if you're going to play both sides of

591
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: the ball, at what time are you going to be

592
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 4: able to perfect those things on defense that I just

593
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: said and perfect the thing on offense?

594
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Speaker 5: Like, I just think that's that's a lot.

595
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: So I think at some point he's got to take

596
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: one more serious than he takes the other.

597
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: Jack of all trades, master of none. Yeah, right, I

598
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: mean that's kind of what that is. So that's the risk.

599
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating if it is here and

600
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: he does come here. I mean, he's he's such an

601
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: exciting player and no one has ever done what he's

602
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: done in college football. Today's the final day for the

603
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: top thirty visits in the NFL. A couple of them

604
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: out there from Noble Ones. Ohio State offensive tackle Josh

605
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: Simmons is visiting the forty nine ers today. Texas A

606
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: and m Edge Nick s Gorton is visiting the Bills.

607
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: We told you about the Giants working out Shooto or Sanders.

608
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: Turns out he wasn't the only quarterback. The Giants also

609
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: worked out Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe and Louisville quarterback Tyler Schuck,

610
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: So all of those guys have been worked out by

611
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: the Giants as well. It's going to be fascinating if

612
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: there is if the Giants are just doing this because

613
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: there is a true division in their front office about

614
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: what to do with that pick at number three, or

615
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: if they are trying to bait teams into coming up

616
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: because everyone lies right now, there's no truth being told.

617
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: It's all it's all lie in fabrication. So that's something

618
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: that's going on as well. Here's something else. Eagles quarterback

619
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has been selected to the twenty twenty five

620
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: times one hundred annual list by Time magazine the hundred

621
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: most Influential People in the World. G Man or Gibbee

622
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: or maybe a combination both. Do they do we think

623
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is even the most influential person in football? No,

624
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: I know, no nice player though, hey he's.

625
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 5: A nice player.

626
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: He does great interviews, you know, say, has great answers

627
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: and do all those things. Had a really had a

628
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: really good Super Bowl. It does really well in big

629
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: time games. So yeah, but he really does, I mean

630
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: most influential. I would definitely say it's still number fifteen

631
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 4: for the Chiefs. I mean he has a still scale

632
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: throwing the ball side arm. They got the haircut like that.

633
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's a it's a kid in college that's

634
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: literally a spitting image.

635
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: Of him right now, I know what you're talking about.

636
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Nebraska, you think Dylan Royla, you think folks

637
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: are aware, Like if you haven't seen Nebraska play, folks,

638
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: he has Patrick Mahomes's haircut. Yep, he wears fifteen. Where's

639
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: the walks like him? He walks like him. Yeah, like

640
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: the pigeon toed walk.

641
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: Wears the sleeve on the arm with thelong with the

642
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: short sleeve cut off. He wears the little sunglasses, the

643
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: little biker sunglass just like him.

644
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's kind of creaky.

645
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. And he was the number one quarterback

646
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: in the country. He was originally committed to Ohio State,

647
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: then he was at Georgia, went to high school in Georgia,

648
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: then ended up at at Nebraska. His dad played at Nebraska,

649
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: so yeah, he looks. It's it's pretty wild the way

650
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: it's it's all shaken out. We'll have some college football

651
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: thoughts with TIVAS as the program goes along. Also at

652
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Speaker 2: two thirty, we'll do a little ask tybas version of

653
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Speaker 2: Ask CBD tweet at Browns Underscore Daily using the hashtag

654
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Speaker 2: ask Tyvas or ask CBD, and we will get to

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Speaker 10: He is the head coach of the National Championship winning

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Speaker 10: thanks for joining us, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Good to be here, guys.

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Speaker 10: So there's no rest for the winners, I guess I

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Speaker 10: mean was that the parade was January twenty sixth. Then

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Speaker 10: like back at spring practice Pro Day, like if you

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Speaker 10: had a chance to nap, was there at least, you know,

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Speaker 10: maybe two days on the beach. Is there any Ryan daytime?

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Speaker 10: And all of this in a ten month season.

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Speaker 6: You know, some days you wake up and.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't feel like anything's changed, and then there's other

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Speaker 11: days where it does. It's uh, but life goes on

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Speaker 11: and you move on. But it's been great to celebrate

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Speaker 11: the accomplishments of that team and you know, the guys

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Speaker 11: who came back for Pro Day. You know, the banners

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Speaker 11: are up on the walls, just a sense of pride

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Speaker 11: when they walk in the woody, which which was great

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Speaker 11: because they all kind of went away to train and

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Speaker 11: then came back. So so that that's been great. But springball,

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Speaker 11: we're in the second week of spring ball and we're

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Speaker 11: back at it with this team.

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Speaker 10: You had one hundred and forty NFL personnel there, I

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Speaker 10: think six head coaches, six gms. I'm sure people are

698
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Speaker 10: hiding in the corners as well. They're not getting noticed.

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Speaker 10: What does that mean to not only your current players

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Speaker 10: but the program in general. Yeah, we we won, all right,

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Speaker 10: we got the banner, we got the trophy. But look

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Speaker 10: who is here? I mean, this is an NFL job

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Speaker 10: fair really yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I say, you know, we have a meeting,

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Speaker 11: you know, right here in this room where you know,

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Speaker 11: everyone's in there to start off the Pro Day. And

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Speaker 11: I speak for a little while and then and then

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Speaker 11: Nick does it does his deal to kind of get

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Speaker 11: everything organized. But you know what one thing I say

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Speaker 11: is that our goal is that day one, when they

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Speaker 11: walk into the organization, they're professionals, they're pros. And you

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Speaker 11: know Ohio States fan base is eleven and a half million.

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Speaker 11: You know Dallas Cowboys is eight and a half. So, like,

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Speaker 11: these guys know what it means to play in front

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Speaker 11: of the bright lights. They know what it means to

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Speaker 11: play for a team with expectations and preparation. And you know,

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Speaker 11: I'm proud of the guys that we've developed going into

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Speaker 11: this US Draft.

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Speaker 10: Let's talk about some of those guys. You had fourteen

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Speaker 10: to the combine more than that working out yesterday. I

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Speaker 10: can't name them mall, but let's start with your quarterback.

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Speaker 10: There was a and I love this about Will, almost

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Speaker 10: like this baby faced defiance that I saw yesterday from him.

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Speaker 10: Maybe the combine wasn't the best. I loved that yesterday

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Speaker 10: He kind of blamed it on fans online from that

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Speaker 10: school up north, which I found interesting. But Will came

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Speaker 10: out with a purpose yesterday to be better than Indianapolis,

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Speaker 10: but be put on a show. And then he wasn't

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Speaker 10: afraid to go Yeah, I am the best quarterback in

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Speaker 10: the draft. What did you see from him yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I again, I don't think he missed the throw. Maybe

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Speaker 11: maybe a little bit off on one. I don't know,

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Speaker 11: but like sixty some odd throws and I thought the

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Speaker 11: ball came out of his hand with pace.

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Speaker 6: There was a rhythm about it, you know.

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Speaker 11: And the thing about Will is like Will has just

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Speaker 11: a great makeup in terms of his you know, I

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Speaker 11: guess they call it now aura, but he's just got

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Speaker 11: great juice to him. And so you know that was

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Speaker 11: on display. But when you were there watching it, you know,

742
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Speaker 11: talking to a couple of the NFL person I was

743
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Speaker 11: just realized how big he is. And he just looks

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Speaker 11: like an NFL guy out there day one. You know,

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Speaker 11: he's got command. You know, he can line up on center,

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Speaker 11: he can line up in the gun, he can make

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Speaker 11: all the throws. And I think he just wanted to show,

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Speaker 11: you know, what he can do in person. And sometimes

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Speaker 11: with that combine, you know, they tell the guy take

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Speaker 11: you know, five at a hitch, throw it to this cone,

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Speaker 11: or throw it to this area, and the receiver is

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Speaker 11: and I mean.

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Speaker 6: It gets a little goofy. I've been there before. I

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Speaker 6: was in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: I coach the quarterbacks, but you know, I think this

756
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Speaker 11: was a little bit more realistic to show his skill.

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Speaker 10: Set and you're working with guys you know, which is

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Speaker 10: a huge difference obviously than the combine but obviously, look

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Speaker 10: that's part of the combine test as well. How do

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Speaker 10: you get on the same page with the guys you

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Speaker 10: just met a couple of days ago in hell Toel Lobby.

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Speaker 10: The defiance, not the defiance, the confidence the area. As

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Speaker 10: you said, how significant is that going to the next level.

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Speaker 10: I know it's significant there, but not only the confidence,

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Speaker 10: the amount of ownership that you and Chip gave him

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Speaker 10: at the line of scrimmage last year. I remember Chip

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Speaker 10: called him kind of his run game coordinator. When you

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Speaker 10: evaluate the position and you look at the pro days

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Speaker 10: and oh, look he could flip his hips and throw

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Speaker 10: at seventy yards. Who cares? Is that aura and leadership

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Speaker 10: and ownership more significant in your eyes?

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Speaker 6: I think so?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know he I think it's important for a quarterback.

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Speaker 11: The Galvini is a team. They have to believe in him,

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Speaker 11: our team did. I think that when you walk into

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Speaker 11: that huddle, there's just a certain amount of command that

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Speaker 11: the quarterback needs to demand. And you know, when you

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Speaker 11: think about certain quarterback, especially late in their career, they

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Speaker 11: really were like a coach on the field, and you know,

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Speaker 11: they could get, you know, the offense into the right

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Speaker 11: play based on you know, a couple of plays that

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Speaker 11: he's given in the huddle. And then obviously he's got

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Speaker 11: to be great on third down, the red zone, two minute.

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Speaker 11: I think will shown he can do a good job

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Speaker 11: on all three of those things. But it's all the

786
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Speaker 11: other things that the end of the matter when when

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Speaker 11: you're leading a group of men, and I guess maybe

788
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Speaker 11: sometimes that gets lost. You know, it doesn't get lost

789
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Speaker 11: on me or I'm sure many of the coaches is

790
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Speaker 11: you know, just the type of guy he is to

791
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Speaker 11: bring people together and lead, and so his football IQ

792
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 11: is tremendous. He's got great intelligence, he's got great moxie,

793
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Speaker 11: he's got great toughness. You know, he also can run

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Speaker 11: with the ball when needed. So I think when you

795
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Speaker 11: add all those things up, you know you're seeing a

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Speaker 11: guy who goes into the NFL at day one ready

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Speaker 11: for it.

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Speaker 10: Don't want to fixate too much on the quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 10: this is a Browns podcast, and I feel like the

800
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Speaker 10: quarterback carousel in the NFL right now. You might have

801
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 10: heard the Browns are looking for one's somewhat similar almost

802
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Speaker 10: to what happens in college football, the transfer portal feels

803
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Speaker 10: like it's you know, quarterback free agency. Last year when

804
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Speaker 10: you went through this, you found Will I know you

805
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 10: you dabbled and you looked around. Cam Ward is part

806
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Speaker 10: of the conversation. Kyle ended up in Syracuse as an

807
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Speaker 10: Orange man, Like I'm happy for that one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: What did you see? If I could ask, is cam

810
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Speaker 10: Ward's name is now in the NFL carousel at all?

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Speaker 10: And did you think that? You know, we could be

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Speaker 10: talking about the number one overall picked in twelve months.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't really have a strong opinion there.

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Speaker 11: I did watch his film when we're going through the

815
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Speaker 11: process and recognize somebody who made quick decisions, was accurate,

816
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Speaker 11: you know, and really played at a high level.

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Speaker 6: So I have a lot of respect for him as

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Speaker 6: a player.

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Speaker 11: But I can't sit there and tell you I've evaluated

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Speaker 11: him and can really give a lot of great input there.

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Speaker 6: But you know, a big part of this is fit too.

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Speaker 11: When you look at some young quarterbacks when they come

823
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Speaker 11: into the league, you know they they got to you know,

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Speaker 11: have the right fit, and I think that's been important

825
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Speaker 11: for CJ. You know, I'm excited to see Justin go

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Speaker 11: to the New York Jets, you know, and I just

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Speaker 11: I feel like, you know, for Will and and you know,

828
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Speaker 11: for wherever is going out in this draft, you know,

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Speaker 11: the fit will be important. And that's why when we

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Speaker 11: do our pro day, you know, we want to give

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Speaker 11: you know, these scouts and personnel all the information that

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Speaker 11: they can possibly have to make sure it is the

833
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Speaker 11: right fit. Because a good fit, you know, it can

834
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Speaker 11: just take off. A bad fit, you know, it can

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Speaker 11: it can be a failure. So that's as much as

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Speaker 11: a part of this is anything.

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Speaker 10: Let's get back to your guys. Is there such a

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Speaker 10: thing as a bad fit for a Mecca Abuka?

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Speaker 6: I think there's there's some that are probably better than others.

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Speaker 11: But a Mecca can do multiple things. He's, you know,

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Speaker 11: somebody who has been really clutch. He's made a lot

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Speaker 11: of plays, been extremely productive. He's extremely intelligent, he's durable, powerful,

843
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Speaker 11: can create a lot of space in his route, running

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Speaker 11: very detailed in his in his preparation.

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Speaker 6: So you know, Mecca is going to play in the

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Speaker 6: NFL for a long long time.

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Speaker 11: You know how it all plays out, you know, that's

848
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Speaker 11: that's for the NFL to personnel to decide. But whoever

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Speaker 11: drafts a Mecca is going to get somebody that's going

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Speaker 11: to bring instant value to their team as a player,

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Speaker 11: but then also off the field.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and we've heard he killed the interviews, which is

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Speaker 10: not surprising obviously in Indianapolis. He's going to kill any

854
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Speaker 10: interview when he gets to any team. Day one on

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Speaker 10: that podium some of the other guys yesterday, First of all,

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Speaker 10: it's ty Leek.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, tweaked it.

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Speaker 11: But but but it was not something that we felt

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Speaker 11: like was like, you know, major or long term injury.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully he'll be he'll be back to normal here in

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Speaker 6: a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Good. That was scary.

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Speaker 10: Jordan Hancock for four two. That might surprise some people.

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Speaker 6: Right now, I mean really good, really good.

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Speaker 11: You know, this is somebody who actually had a significant

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Speaker 11: hamstring injury early on in his career and then you know,

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Speaker 11: kind of worked his way back up and now you're seeing,

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Speaker 11: you know, really his best football. I thought he played

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Speaker 11: his best football in the playoffs. I thought he was tremendous.

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Speaker 11: I think he brings some flexibility and versatility with his game.

871
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 11: And this is a guy who, you know, again, maybe

872
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 11: not a lot of guys. You know, we're talking about

873
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 11: a ton but you know, you see the way he runs,

874
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 11: you see the way he played in the playoffs. Again,

875
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 11: a real value pick, and I think this is another

876
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 11: guy who's going to play for a long.

877
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 10: Time in the NFL, the way he helped you out

878
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 10: down the stretch. Do you think Donovan Jackson can play

879
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 10: tackle in the NFL.

880
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 6: I think he can.

881
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, is that his best position?

882
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 6: Probably not.

883
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 11: I would say he's a guard that could swing to

884
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 11: a tackle kind of like he did for US. But

885
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 11: when you watch what he did at tackle for US

886
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 11: this year, it's hard to say that he you know,

887
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 11: wouldn't be you know, a good tackle in the NFL.

888
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: But I think that's just that's his value too.

889
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 11: You know, when you have the ability to swing from

890
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 11: position to position, especially with limitations in the NFL in

891
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 11: terms of roster size, and you know, when you're playing

892
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 11: an eligibile or you know, when you're activating. You know,

893
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 11: sometimes you know there's seven guys you know, that that

894
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 11: being that being you know, something that he's done shown

895
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 11: and put on film. I know there's a lot of

896
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 11: teams that you know watch him, and to me, he's

897
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 11: I can't miss.

898
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 10: Is there any chance, any chance? I would be crazy

899
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 10: that your two running backs would end up on the

900
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 10: same team in the NFL. That would be wild, wouldn't it.

901
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I guess there's a chance, and it

902
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 11: would be great because you know, they talk about two

903
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 11: guys who understand about teamwork and because of their unselfishness

904
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 11: ended up playing their best down the stretch for us

905
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 11: in the playoffs. But two really good backs, different backs,

906
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 11: but both again, I think you're gonna have long careers

907
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 11: in the NFL because they're three down backs. You know,

908
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 11: Quinn Seawn, you know, somebody that we've only had for

909
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 11: a year, but you know, once he got into the

910
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 11: rhythm of our offense and how we do things and

911
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 11: and more of an NFL style of offense with protections

912
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 11: and route running, you know, it was was great. You know,

913
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 11: we had you know, some big catches and great protections

914
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 11: for us down the stretch. But then you also saw Trevion.

915
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 11: I think, you know who knows, Travion may may have

916
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 11: a better career in the NFL than he did in

917
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 11: coll It just because of his route running ability and

918
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 11: his ability to be, you know, on the field for

919
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 11: three downs and his home run capability.

920
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, I saw that home run capabilities certainly in the playoffs. Here,

921
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 10: what's it going to be like without Jack Sawyer in

922
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 10: the building?

923
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: No, uh, he's in here right now, so I don't

924
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 6: know yet.

925
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: So that hasn't changed yet.

926
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 12: No.

927
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 11: No, he's got a Duncan Donuts coffee and walking around

928
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 11: and making sure d Lin's rocking off the ball.

929
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: But he's just somebody who is.

930
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 11: Just the hard and soul of Buckeye football. And you

931
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 11: know it's going to be missed. These guys are all

932
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 11: going to be missed. But this is somebody who grew up,

933
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 11: you know, in Columbus, wanted to be a Buck guy

934
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 11: and so to see a come full circle obviously with

935
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 11: the play he made and the Cotton Bowl, but to

936
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 11: win a national championship, certainly, it's it's a great story.

937
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 10: Got two more things for Ryan, and I appreciate your time.

938
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 10: There's been this talk of a not a spring game.

939
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 10: I know you made the point this week. You still

940
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 10: want to do the spring game. You know, fingers crossed

941
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 10: a roster is healthy. There's been this talk of potentially

942
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 10: Syracuse going to Colorado and having a spring game between

943
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 10: two schools, which is something at least as I could remember,

944
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 10: we have never seen happen. What do you think of that?

945
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 11: I think on the surface, it's it's a pretty unique idea,

946
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 11: and I think there's certainly merit to it.

947
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 6: I think one of the things about practicing.

948
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 11: Now and when there's there's obviously a lot of talk

949
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 11: about our roster limit going to one oh five. Boy,

950
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 11: there's a lot of challenges with that because when you

951
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 11: look at NFL teams, you'd say, well, you know, you

952
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 11: know they have shorter, you know, smaller rosters for three

953
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 11: man rosters. Well, when you look on a year to

954
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 11: year basis, there's guys in and out of that building,

955
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 11: you know, and it starts with ninety ninety during the

956
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 11: preseason and they whittle it down.

957
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 6: And so you know, for us to get to one

958
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: oh five is tough.

959
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 11: Especially with freshmen and young players who maybe you know,

960
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 11: aren't ready to get.

961
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: On the field.

962
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 11: So when I say that, I say that because we

963
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 11: can't afford to get guys injured. And when you're when

964
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 11: you're with your own team, you can set the guidelines,

965
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 11: you can set the rules of engagement. When you start

966
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 11: to put two teams together in a practice setting. Boy,

967
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 11: you know a lot of things could happen. You know,

968
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 11: you're not you're not thinking about taking care of your teammates,

969
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 11: and now you're just worried about competing, and that that's

970
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 11: the biggest concern I would have. I think it's a

971
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 11: great idea in terms of competition and those type of things.

972
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 11: I would just worry about, you know, somebody you know

973
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 11: getting hurt because of you know, you're not going to

974
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 11: maybe you're gonna tackle.

975
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: If you're going to tackle and play a.

976
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 11: Game, I think that would probably be the best case scenario.

977
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 11: But if you're going to practice against somebody, I just

978
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 11: I I see some some situations that could put guys

979
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 11: in harm's way.

980
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 10: You see it in the NFL, you know this would

981
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 10: joint practice is day one. Day one's okay, it gets

982
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 10: a little three to day two is usually on the

983
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 10: fifth start flying and you got to warn guys ahead

984
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 10: of time. Can't have the fights spring game though. Fascinating

985
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 10: last thing of the one hundred and forty NFL people

986
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 10: there yesterday, what percentage would you estimate said, Hey, what

987
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 10: about uh? What about Jeremiah Smith? Tell me about him?

988
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 11: I think you know everyone knows who he is. He's

989
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 11: obviously become a household name, and he's got two more years.

990
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 11: So well we'll talk about him, and we'll give one

991
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 11: more year before we can start talking about it.

992
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 10: I mean, he doesn't turn twenty until the day you

993
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 10: play the team up north this fall. He's still nineteen.

994
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 10: But you know, if you were in this draft just

995
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 10: saying it would be interesting, Yes, Ryan Day, No, you're busy.

996
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 10: It is back to the grind. Appreciate the time, good

997
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 10: luck here in spring practice, and good luck getting this

998
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 10: team right over the next five months.

999
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: Appreciate you, Thank you man, appreciate it.

1000
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 5: All.

1001
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Right, there you go, Ryan Day and Andrews Ciciliano. You

1002
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: know this team pretty dang well. There could be upwards

1003
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: a fifteen of them picked. Probably not a Buckye at two,

1004
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: I think that's safe to say, but at thirty three.

1005
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: There definitely could be at sixty seven as well. We

1006
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: kind of anticipate that there will be a ton of

1007
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: them gone by Friday. When you think about what Kevin

1008
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: wants to do offensively, which players who wore scarlet and

1009
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: gray on the offensive side of the ball would fit

1010
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: here best.

1011
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: Obviously we got to go straight to the running back

1012
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: and Rome, both of those guys would be unbelievable here

1013
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: with the Cleveland Browns because of the simple fact that

1014
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: we know Kevin is going back to his scheme, his

1015
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: style of offense where he wants to run a lot

1016
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: of under center and run that zone, re orded zone

1017
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: and all of those things. And I think all those guys,

1018
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: Quinn Shine and Trevion both would be great there. You know,

1019
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 4: I think that if Kevin wants to make this offense

1020
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 4: special again, we have to find a way to get

1021
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: these linebackers to respect the running back again. You know,

1022
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: last year, I think that was the biggest thing I

1023
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: didn't think. You know, Jerome Ford did a really decent

1024
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: job coming in there. He gashed them a couple of times,

1025
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: but for the most part, I just didn't think that

1026
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: people respected our run game enough. If they respect the

1027
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: run game, those linebackers naturally are going to play closer

1028
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: to the ball. They're gonna step up. And when you

1029
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: run those play actions, which Joe Flaccle has been probably

1030
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks we had under Kevin Stefanski

1031
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: that runs play action to a higher success rate, those

1032
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: linebackers will step up and now the pitcher is clear

1033
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: for Jerry Judy over the middle or David Nijoku over

1034
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: the middle. So to me, I think you have to

1035
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: get that running back, one of those guys that's gonna

1036
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 4: make these linebackers respect him.

1037
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: All right. In terms of the guy, if you had

1038
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: to say, and forget take the Browns out of it,

1039
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: like just pick a Buckeye eligible in this draft. There's

1040
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of them, and they're very, very talented that

1041
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 2: you would say, I will put the vast Tayvis Powell

1042
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: of State on the line. This guy's a ten year guy,

1043
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: A ten year guy, eight year guy.

1044
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 4: Then all about to say, you might say ten is

1045
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: it's hard to get to ten an eight year guy?

1046
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: I would probably say Donovan Jackson. Why do I say

1047
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: Donovan Jackson? Because Donovan Jackson has that versatility that he

1048
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: could play tackle and guard.

1049
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: I think that he will.

1050
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 4: The way that he goes about his business is going

1051
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: to really keep him around because he's a very smart

1052
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: football player. I think in the right system, he's one

1053
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: of those guys that can be a pro bowler for

1054
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: multiple years.

1055
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: So I think that he will be a guy that

1056
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: can get eight year career.

1057
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: What do you think about Will as a pro.

1058
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: I think Will and he has to go to the

1059
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 5: right situation.

1060
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that he's one of those guys

1061
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: that's not fully developed yet. And you thought he was,

1062
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: you know, even after Kansas State, after his career at

1063
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: Kansas State, you thought this is the guy, this is

1064
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: who he is. And then he comes to Ohio State

1065
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: and over from game one to the to the National

1066
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: Championship is two different wheels. So this is a kid

1067
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: that's still learning the game, that's still growing and he

1068
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: has to get with the coach that understands that, Okay,

1069
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: he we still have to work on his fund his foundation,

1070
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: you know. And and if that's the case, he can

1071
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 4: become a guy that can be a really good quarterback

1072
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: in this league. But right now he needs somebody that's

1073
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: gonna be patient with him, that's gonna teach him the game,

1074
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: that helps him see it in a more clear light.

1075
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I you know, It's it's interesting these quarterbacks because

1076
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, Cam sounds like Cam's gonna go one. And

1077
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: he was on like Fortnite or something talking about his

1078
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: best receivers and he had Calvin Ridley and Treylon Burkson,

1079
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: his top four receivers in the league, along with Jamar

1080
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: Chase and Justin Jefferson. So I think the Cats out

1081
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: of the back there, and he's going He's going to Tennessee. Yeah,

1082
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: so that feels like that's a fore gun. But for

1083
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: the rest of these guys, and I I don't I

1084
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: think some of the shore stuff is a lot of nonsense.

1085
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna go a lot higher than people think.

1086
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't think he's following It's Pittsburgh or anything.

1087
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: I think I think he's going to go to the Saints.

1088
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: I think him in.

1089
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: A baby Giants too.

1090
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, he would be nice for him.

1091
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then the rest of them, though, whether it's

1092
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: they're all so different, whether it's Jackson Dart or Milroe

1093
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: or Howard or McCord, who's a guy we saw a

1094
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: lot Shuck. I mean, somebody just had a video up

1095
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: of Shuck leaving the pocket and just throwing it underhand

1096
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: to anybody. Yeah, So like all the rest of these

1097
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 2: guys have things. I mean, like with Jackson Dart, Yeah,

1098
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: it bugs me that he had a really good game

1099
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: against Georgia, which was buttressed by it just an awful

1100
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: game against Florida, where if they win, they're in the playoff.

1101
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe had one of the best games of quarterback

1102
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: played all of last year beating Georgia, and one of

1103
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: the worst games of quarterback played last year, losing to Oklahoma. Yeah,

1104
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: so there is this wide swings with the rest of

1105
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: these guys where anybody who stick goes on one of

1106
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: these shows or has a mock draft and says emphatically like,

1107
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: this guy's a dude, I know he's gonna make it. No,

1108
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: you don't know, you know, you don't.

1109
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: They're all chasing consistency.

1110
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 4: They're all None of these guys, outside of maybe Cam,

1111
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: is guys chasing it too.

1112
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I agree.

1113
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: Is none of these guys to me can come in

1114
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 4: and be your week one starter, Like I don't.

1115
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 6: Like.

1116
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I know Cam probably will because he's the

1117
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: first pick of the draft, but the rest of them,

1118
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: I just don't see them coming in and being like,

1119
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: all right, this is our franchise guy right off of

1120
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 4: year one. Like, I think it's gonna take some growing

1121
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: pain because a lot of them have some things that

1122
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 4: they got to be coached out of. Or I mean,

1123
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: it's a lot of great players that some of those

1124
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: coaches just said, We're not gonna coach you out of it.

1125
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: We're gonna embrace it.

1126
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1127
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: Think about Josh Allen, think about Patrick Mahomes, Like their

1128
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: coaches said, all right, we can't coach you out of it,

1129
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: so we're just gonna embrace it and help you enhance it.

1130
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: And now we see those guys being two of the

1131
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: best quarterbacks in this league. So, like I say it,

1132
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 4: the fit matters. You got to get with the right

1133
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: play caller that understands what your skill set is and

1134
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: put you in the right position.

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Speaker 2: senior writer at The Sporting News, and he joins us there. Bill,

1153
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. Let's just

1154
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: let's start here on the draft side of it, and

1155
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: then we'll do some college football stuff along the way

1156
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: as well. When you go through and you do the

1157
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: mock drafts and all this stuff, when you go through

1158
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: the process and you think about the time it's been

1159
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: since these guys have played an actual football game on

1160
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: the field to now, and the two and a half

1161
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: months of silly season, how do you decipher nonsense from

1162
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: your truth? You watched all these guys play. You watch

1163
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: as much college football as anybody. You've watched them all play.

1164
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: You have your opinions on it. How do you decipher

1165
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: what's real and what's not?

1166
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, silly season is the hardest part because you

1167
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 7: start to second guess everything you write right like you'll

1168
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 7: be For example, we did a quarterback only mock draft yesterday,

1169
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 7: and you push youdor Sanders with the Giants and then

1170
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 7: you're like, there's no way they're drafting a quarterback. And

1171
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 7: then the next minute you're thinking, well, they have to

1172
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 7: make up for what they did with Saquon, so maybe

1173
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 7: they'll make us splash that way. And until it happens,

1174
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 7: it happens. I can tell you I filed a piece

1175
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 7: today that will run next week about the Browns and

1176
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 7: the number two pick, and I don't have I think

1177
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 7: it's gonna be Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. I honestly

1178
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 7: don't know what I would do if I was Andrew Berry.

1179
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 7: I think it's a tough call either way.

1180
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 5: Bill, I know what I do too.

1181
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 6: Bill.

1182
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: Go ahead time.

1183
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: When you look at these quarterbacks, Bill, give me your

1184
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: how do you rank them? Because obviously it's silly season,

1185
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: and you hear all this about Shador sliding, you know,

1186
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: back into the draft. Give me your top five quarterbacks

1187
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: in this draft in the order.

1188
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 7: I think cam Ward and Shador are one and two.

1189
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 7: And they've been one and two the whole process. And

1190
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 7: I don't get some of the negatives about Shador. You

1191
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 7: don't like a guy that hangs in the pocket and

1192
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 7: touts the hits and throws the ball down the field

1193
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 7: well to NFL aliber receivers. I think cam Ward's a

1194
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 7: fantastic story from incarnate Ward word through Miami last year,

1195
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 7: and he totaled over thirteen thousand yards of passing in

1196
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 7: the college level three. I'd probably go Jackson Dart and

1197
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 7: then it gets it gets nicely. I mean, do you

1198
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 7: go Will Howard, quinn Ewers, Kyle McCord, which Ohio State

1199
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 7: fans have opinions on all three of those quarterbacks? I

1200
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 7: could very easily see those three Are Tyler Shutts being

1201
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 7: drafted next?

1202
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and I think I talked about this yesterday

1203
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: with Jerrod Bill and Tayvas. Shadur is just the low

1204
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: hanging fruit, right. So, like when you think about content

1205
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: creation over the last two months, he's the easiest to

1206
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: create content around. He's known. You don't have to spend

1207
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: time explaining who he is. Everybody knows who he is.

1208
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: But I keep coming back to this from him, and

1209
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: we had Matt Waldman on earlier this week he was

1210
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: a big shador guy. I am Nathan's big sugary. I've

1211
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: been a big shore guy. Not that necessarily that I

1212
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: think what I say, for example, oh he's manning or no,

1213
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but I'm saying like in college,

1214
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: they did not even attempt to have any interest in

1215
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: running the football. He quarterback began a pretty average at

1216
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: best offensive line. I never saw him blame teammates ever.

1217
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: I never saw him point at offensive line or anything.

1218
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: He's tough, takes hits, and he led college football in

1219
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: passing accuracy, like completion percentage. Like I don't know, it

1220
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: seems like he's just kind of been a lightning rod

1221
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: because it's low hanging fruit. What's on tape is pretty good.

1222
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, nobody thought Colorado was gonna win nine

1223
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 7: games last year, you know, or get get to the

1224
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 7: be in contention for the Big twelve championship game on

1225
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 7: the last week of the regular season. Nobody thought that.

1226
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 7: I looked at his you know what, A couple of

1227
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 7: things I look at with quarterbacks ahead of the draft,

1228
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 7: and it's not perfect, but I look at their completion percentage.

1229
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 7: You just mentioned that super high at college level, how

1230
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 7: do they throw the ball down the field? You use

1231
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 7: Pro Football focus for that too, and fourteen touchdowns one

1232
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 7: interception on passes of twenty yards or more, and then

1233
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 7: you get into you know, touchdown interception ratio. He has

1234
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 7: a ton of touchdowns between Jackson State and Colorado and

1235
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 7: not a lot of interceptions. So when you take care

1236
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 7: of the football, you complete it to the right guys

1237
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 7: and you can throw it down the field. I mean,

1238
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 7: where's the problem? And I get, you know, some of

1239
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 7: the we made kids are different now than they were

1240
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 7: when I was playing high school football twenty five years ago.

1241
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 7: If he flashes his celebration or talks a little bit

1242
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 7: of smack on the field, I guess I'm not gonna

1243
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 7: say I don't have a problem with it, but I

1244
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 7: think it's less of a big deal than it used

1245
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 7: to be.

1246
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 5: Bill.

1247
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: You know, number the hot topic now everybody thinks that

1248
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 4: obviously the Browns are going to take Travis at two.

1249
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: So now the new topic is thirty three. What if

1250
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart, the Chador and cam is all off the board.

1251
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 5: Do you still go quarterback.

1252
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: At thirty three or do you think you go maybe

1253
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: running back or offensive tackle.

1254
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that depends on how you feel about that

1255
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 7: second wave of quarterback. Do you take the hometown kid

1256
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 7: and go Will Howard early? I think second round might

1257
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: be touch early for him, But if you get him

1258
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 7: in the third round, I'd do it. Tyler shall I

1259
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 7: mentioned him, He's played a lot of football, he's getting

1260
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 7: He's the guy Tayvas that every year we do this,

1261
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 7: there's a guy that rises out of nowhere and you're like, Okay,

1262
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 7: what do we know about him? We know he played

1263
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 7: at Oregon, we know he played in Texas tecon and

1264
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 7: he had a really good year with Jeff Brawm at

1265
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 7: Louisville last year. Is that the guy that you kind

1266
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 7: of take and let Joe Flacco mener for a year?

1267
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 7: Because what if Tyler? He's six five, he's skinny, he

1268
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 7: throws the ball well, and he doesn't turn it over

1269
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 7: a lot, and those are all the things that the

1270
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: Browns are expecting Joe Flacco to do for them with

1271
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 7: him coming back this year.

1272
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that it's so much circumstance, and

1273
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: it's so much the situation that these guys find themselves

1274
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: in at the top of the draft or even as

1275
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: it goes along it. You know, you have been writing

1276
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: and passion about college football for your whole life, and

1277
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: writing about it for a great portion of it. Now,

1278
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: my friend, what Travis did this year at Colorado. If

1279
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: you didn't watch college football, how would you explain it?

1280
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 7: He was always in the right place at the right

1281
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 7: time on both sides of the ball. That's the short version,

1282
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 7: you know, when you have fourteen touchdown catches and you

1283
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 7: can catch the deep pass, or you can be a

1284
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 7: factor in the red zone as a receiver, which he was.

1285
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 7: He had four interceptions and eleven pass breakouts, and he

1286
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 7: played every snap, which you know, I mean I didn't.

1287
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 7: I barely played any STAPs when I played high school football.

1288
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 7: And ty this, I don't know if you went both ways,

1289
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 7: but I do imagine. But could you have done it

1290
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 7: at Division one high level football. I'm gonna say you could, since.

1291
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: The BI I would I would have I would have

1292
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 4: been the standard if I, if Ohio State would allow

1293
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: me to play wide receiver, would be a standard of

1294
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: what a two way player looks like.

1295
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And Chris Gamble did that for Ohio State,

1296
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 7: but not at this level where he was the best

1297
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 7: receiver on the field and also a factor on the coverage,

1298
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Speaker 7: which now the question is can he do that at

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Speaker 7: the NFL level? And you saw me the story from

1300
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Speaker 7: the athletic where he you know, I think it's a

1301
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 7: little bit of hyperbole to say I'll quit football if

1302
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Speaker 7: I can't play both ways. But I'm wondering what that

1303
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 7: snap count looks like those ways. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you guys have an opinion.

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Speaker 6: I don't know which.

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01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 7: Positions will be better at in the NFL. I'm not

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 7: one hundred percent certain either way.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm leaning more. I lean more towards corner.

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Speaker 4: I just think that at corner, with the way that

1310
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Speaker 4: he plays, their football is a difference.

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Speaker 5: You know, you see so.

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Speaker 4: And especially into you see so many pass breakups, but

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Speaker 4: you don't see a lot of interceptions. And I think

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Speaker 4: that with him, to do that from the corner position

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Speaker 4: would make him special there.

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Speaker 2: Guys, there's an o tawny thing to him in the

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Speaker 2: sense of no one's ever been allowed to try this before. Right,

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Speaker 2: Like Bill asked you Tyvus about this, like could you

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Speaker 2: have done it well athletically? Of course you could have

1320
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Speaker 2: done it like, of course you could have played safety

1321
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Speaker 2: and played of course you could have played receiver. That's

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Speaker 2: probably a bunch of guys you played with who could

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Speaker 2: have maybe played defensive back, right, But nobody ever let him.

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Speaker 2: Nobody let him do it like it took. The circumstances

1325
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Speaker 2: of Jackson played at Jackson State and then Colorado, and

1326
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Speaker 2: the relationship with Dion and this incredible talent like it,

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Speaker 2: that's what made it happen. Nobody gave him a chance.

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: Nobody usually gives these guys a chance to do this.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 7: And I think from a Brown standpoint, if you do

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Speaker 7: draft Travis Hunter too, you have instant and not that

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Speaker 7: you draft guys from marketability, but I mean, it's not

1333
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Speaker 7: hard to sell a two way player who won a

1334
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Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy that might make plays on both sides of

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Speaker 7: the ball in twenty twenty five, especially in Cleveland. Now,

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Speaker 7: I guess the other one that the reason why I

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Speaker 7: said I'm not one hundred percent sure what I would

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Speaker 7: do is Abduel Carter. Watched what he did, watched him

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Speaker 7: dominate in big games, played awesome against Ohio State, played

1340
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 7: awesome against Notre Dame. Only player in the FBS last

1341
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 7: year to rank in the top five in sacks and hurries.

1342
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Speaker 7: So he's consistent. And just the thought of a gym

1343
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 7: sports defense where you have Jarrett on one side and

1344
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 7: Carter on the other, it's tempting. There's no doubt it's

1345
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 7: got it. There's some tempting assets are aspects of that,

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Speaker 7: no question.

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 4: All right, Bill, we talk about has been silly season

1348
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: in the draft. It's silly season in the transfer a

1349
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 4: portal in college football obviously, with you know you've seen

1350
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: the news with Tennessee's quarterback Nco. What you make it

1351
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 4: is he who you think is a fault him or Tennessee?

1352
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: And what do you think he ultimately lands.

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Speaker 7: I think he got bad advice around him at the

1354
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 7: end of the day, when you talk to people around Tennessee,

1355
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 7: I've urged people to follow Trey Wallace at out kick.

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 7: He does a really good job with Tennessee, and I

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 7: talked to him about this and just the handlers. The

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 7: advice was wrong because you know, what's his market now.

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 7: I don't know Tylus. I think he could absolutely play

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 7: at the Power four level and somebody may take a

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Speaker 7: shot on him, but I don't know that he gets

1362
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Speaker 7: a raise. I don't know that.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: The question I keep asking people is do you think

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Speaker 7: nko Eamalaiava, with the stats that he had and we

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01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 7: watched him play against Ohio State, is he worth four

1367
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 7: million dollars a year? And the answer I'm getting from

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 7: most is now. And you know, Tennessee's getting applauded for

1369
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 7: this situation, for holding the line or whatever. But I

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 7: just think it was avoidable if he would have to

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01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 7: enter the transfer portal in the first place. After they

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Speaker 7: lost to Ohio State and the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He's I said this to Tivas off Air. I've said

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Speaker 2: this on my Columbus show many times. He's the perfect

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: player to be used at. He's the perfect player negatively

1376
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: for himself, positively for Tennessee. He's the perfect type of

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: player for Tennessee to take a stand on. Everybody who

1378
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: followed recruiting knew that it was about the bag Tennessee needed,

1379
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: even the worst way because Josh Eipen needed to win

1380
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: in recruiting and they needed a big time quarterback, so

1381
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: they compensated him to do it. But he's also easy

1382
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: for them to walk away from because he's good, but

1383
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: he's not great. He's a nice player, but he's not

1384
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: a great player. He's not a transcendent player. He hasn't

1385
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: been that. So it's easy for them to walk away.

1386
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: And on the other side of it, he's the perfect

1387
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: player for college football coaches to make an example out

1388
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: of Bill. I mean, they can easily collude against him

1389
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: because for the same reason that it was easy for

1390
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: Tennessee to get to say, all right, fine, good, written's

1391
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: walk He's not good enough to elevate a bad program.

1392
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: And most good programs don't want the headache, so yeah,

1393
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: and from me, So it's like the perfect example of it.

1394
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I use the example of saying it's like

1395
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 7: an NFL quarterback holding out that OTAs and seeking free

1396
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 7: agency at the same time. Let's let's use Burrow for

1397
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 7: an example in Cincinnati. If Joe Burrow, he won't need

1398
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 7: to now, but had he two years ago held out

1399
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 7: at OTAs for a new contract and they give it

1400
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 7: to him, we move on with our lives. It's very

1401
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 7: rare where you have a situation like he did with

1402
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 7: Carson Palmer, who demanded a trade and threatened to retire,

1403
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 7: and Mike Brown held the line and he had to

1404
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 7: wait Oktober to wear a Raiders' uniform. I think this

1405
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 7: is going to follow Niko Iam Maliava maybe his entire

1406
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 7: career because of the sitting out of practice the day

1407
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 7: before the spring game. With that fan base, could you imagine,

1408
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 7: if you know, three years ago, Justin Fields would have

1409
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 7: done that to Ohio State. Just that's what it's like though.

1410
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 7: With that Tennessee fan base, They're every bit is passionate

1411
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 7: and probably even more unreasonable in some ways than Buckeye

1412
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 7: fans because they haven't won a national championship since nineteen

1413
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 7: ninety eight.

1414
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's one of those. And I think about

1415
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: him just for the folks who follow the NFL, Like

1416
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: this similar thing just happened at Michigan with Bryce Hunderwood. Right,

1417
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: this is a kid who's from Michigan who wanted to

1418
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: go play at LSU, was committed to LSU. Michigan needed

1419
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: a win for Sharon Moore and Sharan Moore and recruiting,

1420
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: and so they got him well publicized. They wrote a

1421
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: big check with Larry Ellison's Larry Ellison's lady friend and

1422
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: Dave Portnoy involved, and they got Underwood to sign online,

1423
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 2: which is dotted and now he's a Michigan guy, something

1424
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: he didn't really want until the money became so much

1425
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: you can't ignore. And these are the type of concessions

1426
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: you make in recruiting that can come back to bite you.

1427
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: Not to say it will for Underwood. Underwood might be great,

1428
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: who knows, but when you when it starts being about

1429
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: the money. We had Andrew on talking with Ryan Day

1430
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: about he asked you about cam Ward. Well, here's and

1431
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: you know this, ti Us and Bill you know this too.

1432
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State was interested in cam Ward, but it became

1433
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Speaker 2: abundantly clear that cam Ward was about who's going to

1434
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: pay me the most? And Ohio State was not going

1435
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: to get into that. They were not going to get

1436
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: into a bidding war, so they said, all right, not

1437
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: for us. Now it worked out for cam he went,

1438
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: you went to Miami, got a bunch of money, and

1439
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: now he's going to be the first pick in the draft.

1440
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: But that's how they ended up where they ended up,

1441
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: because when you're at a place like Ohio State, you

1442
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: don't have to make concessions on the players you bring in.

1443
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: But in Tennessee sometimes you do.

1444
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 7: And you can take a chance on Will Howard, who

1445
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 7: made it clear in his first press conference that hey,

1446
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 7: you know, I got a draft grade and my decision

1447
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 7: wasn't you know Ohio State or Miami or Missouri. It

1448
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 7: was a state or the NFL. And he thought he

1449
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 7: was gonna get a draft Day three draft grade at

1450
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 7: that point at Kansas State. He comes back, like I said,

1451
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 7: I think he'll go on Day two.

1452
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 11: I do.

1453
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 7: I don't know that he'll go in the second round,

1454
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 7: maybe the third. A lot of linking to the Raiders

1455
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 7: and Chip Kelly, though I think on some level that's

1456
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 7: a little bit lazy because you're just putting him in

1457
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 7: one spot. You know, I could see the Steelers going there.

1458
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 7: I could see a lot of teams going there with

1459
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 7: Will Howard because just I would just say, roll the

1460
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 7: tape from the four games in the playoffs. He played fantastic.

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01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1462
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of fantastic, I don't know if you've seen on Twitter,

1463
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Speaker 4: I put this picture of me interviewing Jeremiah Smith, and

1464
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 4: I found I realized how incredible of an athlete he

1465
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: is in person. Oh, if everybody talks about, you know,

1466
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 4: him being the first wide receiver taken, and if he

1467
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: was in this draft and all those things. My question

1468
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: is what do you how would you feel if he

1469
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 4: played this season, won the bullet in the coffin, then

1470
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: sat out his third year.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope it.

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 7: Doesn't come to that, and I know Jimore Chase did

1473
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 7: that under a different circumstance obviously with COVID, and we

1474
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 7: criticized Jamar Chase and we criticized Michael Parsons. I probably did,

1475
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 7: but he knew they could play the next level. I

1476
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 7: think we know Jeremiah Smith can do that, And to

1477
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 7: be honest, I think he'll stay at Ohio State. I

1478
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 7: don't think we'll have that kind of drama by his

1479
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 7: junior year. I will say this though, of all the

1480
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 7: receivers I've watched over the years at the college level,

1481
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 7: he does remind me of a game changer at the

1482
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 7: level that Randy Moss was at Marshall. Randy Moss was

1483
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 7: the last college football receiver that I watched where I

1484
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 7: was like, oh my, I mean he would be good

1485
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 7: right now and he's a sophomore and turns out he

1486
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 7: goes to the Vikings and was that good right away.

1487
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 7: And I think Jeremiah Smith could play in the NFL

1488
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 7: right now. But I also think he's in the right

1489
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 7: place with the right coordinator Brian Hartline and the right fitted.

1490
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 7: I don't think he'll get bored at the college level

1491
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 7: because there's always something to chase at the state.

1492
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: Well you know why else he's not gonna get bored

1493
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: at the college level. About six million reasons that helps.

1494
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: He's not a work study, he's not reffing innermur basketball

1495
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: games on the side. Okay, he's living a life. It's

1496
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: a little different nowadays.

1497
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: Boys.

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 7: That's that's not bad at all. I mean, yeah, he

1499
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: won't get bored because of that as well. But yeah,

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01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 7: the talent is certainly there. And you know, all the

1501
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 7: interview sessions and tied this, I'm sure you stelt this

1502
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 7: way as well. He just seems like a really good

1503
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 7: kid that wants to play football and get better and

1504
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 7: be the most dominant player on the field.

1505
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well done, buddy. As always, good talking to you.

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01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: Stay well and appreciate your.

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Speaker 7: Time, and no problem, guys, have a great week.

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Speaker 2: All right, there he goes Bill Benders, senior writer at

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Speaker 2: All right, you want us to rank these first, so

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Speaker 2: that what we have here is a list. Yes, Tyvus

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Speaker 2: and I have a list of six route runners who

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Speaker 2: all played at Ohio State, and we're tasked with identifying

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Speaker 2: where a Mecca Abuka ranks when it comes to route running.

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Speaker 2: So a Mecca is one of them. This ain't fair

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Speaker 2: route man, Marv Chris Olave, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Garrett

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Speaker 2: Wilson and Terry McLaurin on route running.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you, are we talking about coming out

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Speaker 5: of coming out of Ohio state?

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Speaker 2: Are current coming out coming out of Ohio state?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I would? Okay, So Marv is number one. I mean,

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Speaker 3: let's get that two for me.

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Speaker 2: You see this real quick on him? Are you surprised

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Speaker 2: he didn't he was not better as a rookie.

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Speaker 5: I was, I was, But I mean he's the only

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Speaker 5: guy there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they got Trade McBride, but he's the

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Speaker 4: number one guy that defenses is gonna worry about. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not that shocking I thought, But I

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Speaker 4: did think he'd have at least did he did he

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Speaker 4: get to a thousand? I don't even think he got

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Speaker 4: to one thousand.

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Speaker 2: I don't think something he was under it. He was

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Speaker 2: under it. He had one monster game early. But they're

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Speaker 2: just they just wasn't there consistently. My theory on it

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Speaker 2: was is Marv is precise. I will be here exactly

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Speaker 2: when I'm supposed to be, and Kyler is not.

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Speaker 5: That that's the case.

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Speaker 4: He needs the Browns need to trade for him, man,

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Speaker 4: because that's that they love somebody being where they supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Be they're supposed to be. Yeah, and that ain't Kyler

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Speaker 2: only eight hundred and eighty five yards last season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 2: I think Kyler is.

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Speaker 5: You know, he was running they're running the Browns off. Well,

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Speaker 5: what the Browns going back?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say Drew Pets.

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Speaker 2: Didn't resemble what we do though.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, you need you need who's the running back there?

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Speaker 5: James Conner?

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Speaker 2: I think he still might be there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So I'm gonna got Marv one. Marv

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Speaker 4: one for me at too is js in Actually.

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Speaker 2: So I have a lobvee too.

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Speaker 4: I got js in too because if you ask, if

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Speaker 4: you ask a Love and Garrett, they will tell you

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Speaker 4: J see it, which is funny to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, who do you got three?

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Speaker 5: Probably I'll probably go G five.

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Speaker 2: I go Geart, I go Garrett. I go j s

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Speaker 2: N three. I had j s N three on mine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who do you got four?

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Speaker 5: Chris Olive?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have Garrett. I have Garrett four.

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Speaker 3: So we just switched further.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then next I'll go to Mecca and then Terry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Terry, that's that's so you and I just had

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Speaker 2: We had the same one, the same five, the same six.

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Speaker 2: We just had two, three, four. I had it a

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Speaker 2: lave JSN Garrett, You had it, JSN Garrett a lave. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, So here is Bucky Brooks and Cynthia Freeland

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Network on the topic reg.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a buck guys, uh segment where we're

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Speaker 13: gonna talk about all things buck guys when it comes

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Speaker 13: to their wide US or wide receivers have been fa

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Speaker 13: fantastic over the last few years, and so what we're

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Speaker 13: going to do to have one in the draft? I

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Speaker 13: make a book that we're going to talk about. We

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Speaker 13: want to put him in amongst the others that have

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Speaker 13: come out recently. So let's rake the Buckeys receivers from

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Speaker 13: one to five.

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Speaker 12: Wait, this is coming out right the draft right?

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Speaker 3: No, not right now? When we what we thought about

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Speaker 3: them as they were heading into the draft list.

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Speaker 13: So let's go number five, JSN, Jackson Smith and jigbuk

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Speaker 13: All standing Rold running.

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Speaker 3: He was terrific in the slot.

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Speaker 13: We didn't see him play his final season, but you

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Speaker 13: knew he would have the opportunity to be special. We've

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Speaker 13: seen since the end of the league one of the

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Speaker 13: best in the business at the slabberty.

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Speaker 12: He might have been higher how he played that final

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Speaker 12: season too. Can you fire up Chrystal Lave for me please? Yeah,

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Speaker 12: he's probably number four here. We knew about the deep ball,

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Speaker 12: we knew about those routes. We're really just getting a

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Speaker 12: bunch of extra yards. So I think we're going to

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Speaker 12: go ahead and put him at number four coming out.

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Speaker 12: And he's really lived up to that.

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Speaker 13: He has lived up to building and so this is

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Speaker 13: why you should be excited.

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Speaker 6: If you like Amika Abuka.

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Speaker 13: You shouldn't like him because I don't put him right

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Speaker 13: over Olambit in the slot smooth, fluid, terrific catching the

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Speaker 13: ball in traffic, but he also has some special stuff

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Speaker 13: when he has the ball in his hands. This is

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Speaker 13: a guy that's gonna come in day one. He's just

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Speaker 13: slot receiver. He's eventually going to be a guy that

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Speaker 13: you can count to be that number two option in

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Speaker 13: the passing game.

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Speaker 7: I like him.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people are gonna love him.

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Speaker 13: Once he settles in and becomes the player that we think.

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Speaker 6: He'd be as a pro.

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Speaker 12: Can you give me that jet please? Garrett Wilson as

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Speaker 12: number two right here. This is an interesting one because

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Speaker 12: his route running coming out. I mean this is like

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Speaker 12: route running university, not just wide receiver university. But they're

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Speaker 12: all really precise route runners. Garrett Wilson. The separation he

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Speaker 12: was able to show at Ohio State was awesome. So

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Speaker 12: I'm comfortable with him at number two.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about route running.

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Speaker 13: Ryan Harland has done a really good job developing these guys. Look,

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Speaker 13: Marvin Harrison Junior was the bell of the ball. We

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Speaker 13: talked about him for years. He had everything that you

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Speaker 13: look for, size, big, playmaking ability, and he was just dependable, reliable.

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Speaker 3: All those things.

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Speaker 13: He is going to be a fantastic pro in the

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Speaker 13: other blocks.

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Speaker 12: You forgot to say about his DNA.

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Speaker 3: Dad gets a shout a dad.

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Speaker 2: Alright, give a So already they just ranked the receivers.

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Speaker 2: They didn't rank route running. So they just went receivers

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Speaker 2: and social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the social media headline that NFL media put out

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Speaker 3: was route running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that ain't it. That ain't what they did.

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Speaker 2: Then they ranked, they ranked best receiver prospects coming out

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Speaker 2: pretty much which then I would have had Marvin one,

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Speaker 2: Garrett two on that list, so that I would have

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Speaker 2: had that a little different at that point. But then

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Speaker 2: where would you like, just receiver coming out, where would

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Speaker 2: you have I would probably have a Lave and JSN

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Speaker 2: ahead of a Mecca too, I'd have him probably behind them.

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Speaker 4: Just as a prosperous Yes, yes, because I think the

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Speaker 4: j S c N was unbelievable in the slot, and

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Speaker 4: Chris Olave was like Justin's number one target. I mean

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Speaker 4: the way the way he got behind defenses was ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: So like he I know a Mecca ran a four

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Speaker 4: four five. I only know because him and I got

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Speaker 4: into it while I was covering the spring game. We

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Speaker 4: talked about it on the sideline during the interview, which

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Speaker 4: I ran a full four six, so he's only slightly

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Speaker 4: faster than me. But although the thing about him is

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Speaker 4: that he's never been a number one, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: always been a number two on his team, and that's

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Speaker 4: not his fault. I mean, it's just I mean he

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Speaker 4: was with Marvi and then he was with with Jeremiah,

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Speaker 4: so like it is what it is to where those

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Speaker 4: other guys were considered number one options.

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Speaker 5: For at least a year.

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Speaker 4: I know JSCN got hurt his last year, but he

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Speaker 4: was the number one option and was having a really

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Speaker 4: good season.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't a Mecca the higher He's the same class as Marv,

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Speaker 2: but hes a higher rated player coming in out of

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Speaker 2: high school. Yep, A Mecca was a five and I

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Speaker 2: think Marv was four three. I think it was before. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so Mecca was higher coming out of high school. Here's

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Speaker 2: the reality. The kid they got wearing four now is

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Speaker 2: gonna be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he bettered at all. Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 4: And then then on top of it, they got the Chris.

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Speaker 4: They got Chris Henry Jr. Who they speak very highly

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Speaker 4: of who's coming in next year. So and and it

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Speaker 4: got Milon Graham. It's it's it's a lot of they

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Speaker 4: got some talent in that wire receiver room.

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Speaker 2: It's Brian Hartline knows what he's doing down there. Another

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Speaker 2: Northeast Ohio kid making it right down there. So all right,

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Speaker 3: Uh away we go, Ohio resident at cl Browns seventy

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Speaker 3: one Tybus. It became clear very quickly last spring that

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith was special and he would have an immediate impact.

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Speaker 2: At Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: You don't say, who is the one guy you remember

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Speaker 3: from Ohio State who came in and was almost instantly

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Speaker 3: a dude?

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Speaker 5: Is this a serious question?

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Speaker 4: Like back when out back when I I mean obviously

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Speaker 4: I mean you you know, you know anyway, No, a

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Speaker 4: guy that came in right away and I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: this guy's dad deal is Joey Bosa. Because Joey walking in,

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Speaker 4: he was like, this dude looked like my uncle. First

1725
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 4: of all, I mean he was Jack. And then I

1726
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 4: watched STUDI in practice not be blocked, and I'm just like, who.

1727
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 5: Is this guy?

1728
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 4: And you gotta remember, I think Joey was a year

1729
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 4: younger than me, so I had already been there for

1730
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 4: a year and I was like, Yeah, this dude is special.

1731
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 5: So that's the easy answer, Joey Bosa.

1732
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one that you know he

1733
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: was here, But it was Terrell Prior. Terrell Prior walked

1734
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: Terrell Prior for all of it, and that's it's a

1735
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: thirty for thirty. Like his senior year of high school

1736
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: until his last year at Ohio State and everything that followed.

1737
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: All of it. That kid walked into the number one

1738
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: team in the country with the first team All Big

1739
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: Ten quarterback and it was impossible to keep him off

1740
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: the field. I mean just physically he is just he

1741
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: was just the way he looked when he was here.

1742
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: Wasn't that different than the way he looked when he

1743
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: showed up at Ohio State is a true freshman. He

1744
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: looked the same, six five and a half two hundred

1745
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds, looked ready to go. First time

1746
01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: I saw him, I think it looks like a d end.

1747
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: He was a whole quarterback. Oh dude, Yeah, he was

1748
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 2: a hooper.

1749
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 4: I would have given him if he would have been

1750
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 4: there last night, he I'd of gave him BUCkies.

1751
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 5: That's how good I was playing.

1752
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: He was the number one high school football player in

1753
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: the country. Even he's a top fifty basketball player in

1754
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: the country, by the way.

1755
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden got to the NFL

1756
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: and our good friend Al Saunders said, we're gonna make

1757
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 3: you a wide receiver, and he had a thousand yard

1758
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 3: receiving Seaton.

1759
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: He had never played receiver in his life, correct ever

1760
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: played quarterback with the Raiders and some other things, and

1761
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 2: they turned him into a wide receiver and then he

1762
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: had a thousand yards. Yeah, but it's not like he

1763
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: ever played it. Braxton tried doing that, and Braxon was

1764
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: an unbelievable athlete at o State. It was a really

1765
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: hard transition for him for tp A. I right thousand yards.

1766
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: Mister Camtastic tweets at the show. Should there be an

1767
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: NCAA draft eligibility exception wherein, after playing one year in college,

1768
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: if a player gets a first round grade from the

1769
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 3: Draft Advisory Board, they would be draft eligible.

1770
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: That be a good system.

1771
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, Maurice Clarett would I have loved

1772
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 5: to hear that.

1773
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 11: No.

1774
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 4: I think that I think that the end of the

1775
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 4: college game got it right. I think that, you know,

1776
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 4: I know it's different now because you can see guys

1777
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 4: like Jeremiah Smith whose body is NFL ready and all

1778
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 4: of those things. But I think you still need that

1779
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 4: time to develop, to to transition and be and have

1780
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 4: an immediate impact when you get to the NFL.

1781
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 5: So I think three years is good enough.

1782
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 2: Three years is great. You don't want to have any

1783
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: sort of crack in the damn either, Like you start

1784
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 2: doing that and then then all of it, the flood happens,

1785
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: and furthermore, they don't need to anymore. They don't. These

1786
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: kids make a lot of these guys, and this is

1787
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: how the Nico Amalaeva stuff gotten into the spot that

1788
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: it's in. He's going to make more money now that

1789
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: he's going to be as an NFL player, So there's

1790
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: a ton of money out there for him and they're

1791
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: capitalizing on it. So there's not a need for them

1792
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: to go to the league anymore. That's what I'm saying

1793
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: with Jeremia Smith, like he's a wealthy kid walking around

1794
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: Columbus nineteen years old.

1795
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 3: Amen Brown's Backers, North Jersey. Question for Tyvus when you

1796
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: interned for Bo Bishop, what was the best piece of

1797
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: advice he gave you?

1798
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 5: No, let's see Bo Bo is over too.

1799
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: Let's see if you listen to anything I said. Let's

1800
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 2: see if a piece of advice.

1801
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 4: It's very hard for me to pay attention to you

1802
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: know what Bo is saying. I'm trying to think, what

1803
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: is something Bo taught me. Bo has done a lot

1804
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 4: for me. Now, even back when I was an intern,

1805
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know like it was. It

1806
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 4: was so young, you know, you like you just do it.

1807
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 4: I did it because Coach Meyer made us do this. Okay,

1808
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 4: he made us. He literally said, you all have to

1809
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 4: go get interships. And luckily I got to intern with

1810
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 4: Bo and Dom and Kayle at the time. But Bo

1811
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 4: was just Bo has really helped me a lot as

1812
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 4: far as just confidence being on air. You know, he

1813
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 4: was like want of the first people to be like,

1814
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 4: you're the expert here, you know, like you just say

1815
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 4: what you know and explained it in a way that

1816
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 4: people understand it. And it's crazy because that was what

1817
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,480
Speaker 4: was that twenty fourteen?

1818
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Maybe summer after the thing was summer after you guys

1819
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,799
Speaker 2: want it now? Was it the summer fall of fourteen?

1820
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: I think wasn't it summer fourteen?

1821
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Either summer fourteen or somewhere fifteen. I can't remember all exactly,

1822
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 4: but like eleven years, ten years later and I'm still

1823
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 4: using the same advice.

1824
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 2: This is so you kind of got it right. The

1825
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 2: one thing I said because I knew that when whenever

1826
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: your football career was over, I knew that this was

1827
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: how you were going to go. And I knew you

1828
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: had this in you and you kind of hit it there,

1829
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 2: I said, And I said this to everybody who I

1830
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: see that, and I said, be yourself because you're betting

1831
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: on you. You're the personality, so be you. Be authentic

1832
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 2: to you. And you've I've always been proud of you

1833
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: because you've you've always done that, You've been authentically you always,

1834
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: and as long as you're that, then nothing's fake, and

1835
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: that's that's the win. The other thing I said is

1836
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: don't ever getting a game of horse with me. And

1837
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 2: you've listened.

1838
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 6: Both.

1839
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: If you was out there tonight, if you was out

1840
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: the last night, you.

1841
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be able to hear right now because it's just

1842
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: ball going through net.

1843
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 7: I hear you.

1844
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: That's how silky my jay is.

1845
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 4: I would just hate your I'm gonna take your kids.

1846
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 4: I think you're at the point now where I think

1847
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: your kids are probably beating you.

1848
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: Not yet, yeah, not yet, but I haven't been golf.

1849
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: We haven't played this summer yet. This summer is when

1850
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: the series is really start to heat up. So we'll see,

1851
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: but not yet.

1852
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 3: Uh ti us and boat your top five buck guyes

1853
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: available in the draft from last year's national championship team.

1854
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 3: Five I guess top five in this year's draft.

1855
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:59,839
Speaker 4: Both running backs A Mecca Donovan, Jackson, Jack Sawyer, Yeah, Simmons, Simmons,

1856
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 4: I forgot about Simmons, you got yeah, yeah. I think

1857
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 4: I think Simmons feels like pretty dang good, feels like

1858
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 4: a lock A Mecca, Tree and Q. I think all

1859
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 4: of them to me. I just feel like a Mecca

1860
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 4: Buka could come in and start on most NFL teams day. Yes,

1861
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: he's good to go, like he's a pro rout runner,

1862
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 4: he's good to go. I think both those backs are

1863
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: pretty close to that too.

1864
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you on Jack. I think Jack will be

1865
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: more than fine. I think he's unfore. I just feel

1866
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 2: like he's ended up in Pittsburgh.

1867
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 5: I feel like Cincinnati. I don't know, we don't need Himnat.

1868
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't need him in the AFC North unless it's here.

1869
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: But it feels like he could end up in one

1870
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: of those spots. But yeah, it's a really talented group,

1871
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 2: it really is. They got a bunch of pros. Not

1872
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: holding you to it.

1873
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 3: But on April sixteenth to two forty five PM, who

1874
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: starts a quarterback for the buck Guys Game one?

1875
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 5: That's Julia saying you can, Yeah, you can hold me

1876
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 5: take take it to the bank.

1877
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, he's He was the number one high

1878
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: school quarterback in the country. He was ahead of the

1879
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: others on the depth chart a year ago. All season long,

1880
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: his release is lightning quick. He's really bright, making this perfect.

1881
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: He throws a really good ball. It's I'd be shocked

1882
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: if he wasn't. There's a video game quality to him.

1883
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: You and I were talking about this yesterday on my

1884
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: show in the morning, Like it's like you hit X

1885
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: and it just goes right to the hands of the

1886
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: X receiver, Like there's no adjustment, it doesn't flutter, it's

1887
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: just on the hands. I thought one of the most

1888
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: impressive throws he had in the spring game Tea was

1889
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: the one he had to the tight end that went incomplete.

1890
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 2: If he the tight end is running down the seam.

1891
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 2: Was a tight end or was it a slot?

1892
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 5: Were you talk about the Max Claire touchdo.

1893
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: There was one? There was one that was broken up,

1894
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: the Cleare touch up. No, there's one over the middle

1895
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 2: deep that was kind of broken up, but he hit

1896
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: the receiver right in the hands. It was in the

1897
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 2: second half. I remember the receiver running the route. But

1898
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: there was one in the second halfter you running kind

1899
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: of down the middle post and it was in between coverage, draped.

1900
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: The receiver didn't catch it, but it went off the

1901
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: hands and I went, Okay, yeah, I've seen enough. Yeah

1902
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: it's just he's good. He's really really good. Yeah, all right,

1903
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: so much more to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns

1904
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,519
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1905
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1906
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,559
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1908
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: and Cleveland, What do you think of the.

1909
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: NBE playing stuff? Buddy? You into this? You watched this

1910
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: last night Warriors and grizz in the late.

1911
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 4: Game, you can get, you know, as crazy as that.

1912
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 4: I forgot how good Jimmy Butler is in the playoffs

1913
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 4: and man, oh man, it's it's to me. He's sandbagging bo.

1914
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1915
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 8: Man.

1916
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 4: All season, he'd just be just saving it for the playoffs,

1917
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: and he comes out here drops thirty eight. Steph Curry

1918
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 4: got a messed up thumb, and yet he's dropping thirty seven.

1919
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 4: And I just didn't like the way the game ended

1920
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 4: with the five second Colt violation, like you like, get

1921
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 4: the ball in.

1922
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, I think for I thought it

1923
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: was kind of gimmicky initially when I heard they were

1924
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 2: doing this, But then you watch that game last night

1925
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: between Memphis and Golden State, and you go, well, that's

1926
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: an entertaining basketball game. Yeah, that's a win. So Steph

1927
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: still clutch down the stretch at two huge threes in

1928
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes to kind of give him

1929
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of separation, and that's a little bit

1930
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: of a win meantime. The Cavs wait, they got to

1931
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: wait it out.

1932
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 6: Wow.

1933
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: We do have a team that is here locally that

1934
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: is not participating game. But there's a lot on it

1935
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: and that's the Blue Jackets tonight down in Columbus. They

1936
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: need the carol Hurricanes to beat the Canadians tonight. They

1937
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 2: have a chance to clinch on Thursday, like a regulation

1938
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Speaker 2: when to do that. So we'll see if it can

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Speaker 2: all happen. That franchise deserve it, after all they've been through.

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Speaker 2: Always good doing a show with you, my friend. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your time.

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Speaker 5: Likewise, well appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Hi buddy, next levels coming up next. Thanks for listenbou

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Speaker 2: A Cleveland Rozale eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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