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Speaker 3: I don't like this kind of talk because from the

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Speaker 3: And them young, them kids that everybody keep talking about,

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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at this interview. Rotate a lane for.

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Speaker 5: People like you and a guzzie to get on the

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Speaker 1: So you said Charleston White created my lane. I'm not

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Speaker 1: to a certain stent. I feel like that.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Charleston here. That's crazy. I'm from Chicago.

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Speaker 5: Charleston whitey can't create no Chicago on my daughter. It's authentic,

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Speaker 5: this one hundred percent of me. So it's like you

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Speaker 5: saying this Charleston White, who I don't even know how,

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Speaker 5: I don't know like what that's it don't even make

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Speaker 5: no sense, Shaan.

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Speaker 1: I feel like at that's a slip on my face.

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Speaker 1: That's disrespectful.

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Speaker 5: That's disrespectful, comparing J Matt not even comparing them because

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Speaker 5: put it like this, it's the it's disrespect, Sean. I

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Speaker 5: smile at the time when I see you, Sean, you

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Speaker 5: let somebody get on this platform. You seen me at

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Speaker 5: these schools. You seen me, I said all that, Sean,

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Speaker 5: don't whoop me like that. I ain't wooping like that now.

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Speaker 1: But you put it like this.

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Speaker 5: I feel like people don't respect my growth. I just

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Speaker 5: did a major interview shout of corporate media Cartier. I

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Speaker 1: Cartiler a Jamine Hollywood Jamaine Bugie.

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Speaker 5: Nah stopped playing with me because when I was on

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Speaker 5: that game. Y'all wasn't whooping with me like that. It's like,

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Speaker 1: Did I pay a hundred you are?

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Speaker 5: Sean Charleston makes a lot of sense in his messages,

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Speaker 1: When you when you when you're this, when you this in,

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Speaker 1: When you this and Gilly wallowing them, I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: Sean Cotton is a fan boy. He got a bromance

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Speaker 3: meet Charleston Done went out on him. Really, Charleston and

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Speaker 3: it's important to know that Sean Cotton is a fan

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna build your own platform, it's a great

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Speaker 3: when Dirk got arrested, Sean Cotton had just interviewed Charleston

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, is pimping, you know, I don't got

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Speaker 3: no problem what he's doing. It's pimping to me because

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Speaker 3: the perpetuity aspect of it is where the win comes from.

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Speaker 3: But when Kamala lost on or Trump won, he hit

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Speaker 3: Charleston up like that's his goal to guy. A lot

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Speaker 3: of these people have changed their platforms to be heavily

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Speaker 3: Charleston White is a celebrity. He gets a lot of views,

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Speaker 3: everybody knowing. But I believe Sean Cotton to see him

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Speaker 5: This it down side, Like y'all know whats going on,

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Speaker 5: Seana shit out of you. Let me start down because

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Speaker 5: I'm speaking for the fans and I'm speaking for the

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Speaker 5: people at this at this point game, you let Charleston

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Speaker 5: White get on this platform, and oh you let him

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Speaker 5: get on this Come on, man, do I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta break this sh it down? He done this credit

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Speaker 1: and your camera team, your people's his character.

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Speaker 5: You gonna keep saying this the character, This is the character.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna keep saying that ship man, it ain't different? Man, Like,

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Speaker 5: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Sean m am? I disappointed in you. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: Jay Maine.

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Speaker 5: Ain't smiling today, Sean Cotton a muff help you when

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Speaker 1: But once you get the over whooping, they don't really

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Speaker 1: be what you like that. You feel that makes sense?

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Speaker 1: You feel do that makes sense? John? Baby? You have

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Speaker 1: experienced there like a lot of time.

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Speaker 6: I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, let's just break this kid, Like when you

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Speaker 5: get somewhere that they never thought you would go on

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Speaker 5: stage with Dirk's.

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Speaker 1: Crash, it was like it was like they use you

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Speaker 1: as a poem. Now let's just break that down.

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Speaker 5: You do, But I solute, Okay, let's break that down

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Speaker 5: because I hate that when the mother fuckers like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I feel like dirt use Jay Maine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my baby, let's break this sit down. I'm not

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Speaker 1: no goofy. Let's break the shit down. How to put

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Speaker 1: it like this?

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Speaker 5: They say dirt use j Mane to duct the fizz

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Speaker 5: The goofy is shit I ever heard.

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Speaker 1: You can't duckt the fists with Jay Maine. If put

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Speaker 1: it like this, if the fis won't dirt, they gonna

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Speaker 1: come get his ass like they did do I gotta

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Speaker 1: go down. It's different.

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Speaker 5: So what Dirk was doing with Jake Maine was genuine

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Speaker 5: and out of his heart game, Like, let's just stop

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Speaker 5: trying to discredit them off when they're doing something right, bro,

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Speaker 5: Like when really trying to do something on We can't,

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Speaker 5: like I tell people out the time, we can't.

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Speaker 1: Change what happened in the past. Bro, you can't. You

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Speaker 1: just can't change what happened in the past. It is

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Speaker 5: But right now, because put it like this, they doing

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Speaker 5: allegations on the Muslim brother, let's just start there. They

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Speaker 5: doing allegations saying murder for hire. Murder for hire is crazy, right?

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Speaker 1: Why why did you get cheese cheese the wood too?

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Speaker 1: Put it like this, I ain't had no cheese on me.

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Speaker 1: Cheese want me cheese, I'm gonna change it. It's merch.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have no it's murching certain ship I

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Speaker 1: needed in this room today. It's merch. I don't have

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Speaker 1: it on you. You're still having his back. This this

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Speaker 1: a full time murder. They've probably got your people killed.

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Speaker 2: It's different people killed when you still have the back,

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Speaker 2: or you just need the clout.

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Speaker 1: Need the cloud.

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Speaker 6: Let's legend start though, that's becauseuse I want to want

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Speaker 6: to put you on the way.

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Speaker 5: Because you just said that. Charles and White said, that's

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Speaker 5: the reason why jay Mane push it. Well, it's easy

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Speaker 5: to do that because it's for the money. Like when

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Speaker 5: you basically me a taste savage even come together, Charles

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Speaker 5: some White makes saying like all this ship is for

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Speaker 5: money for clock.

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Speaker 1: Let's just let's start. Oh my daughter, I better have

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Speaker 1: it cloud. Let's start that. That's how I'm meant to say, Cheez,

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Speaker 1: I ain't have cloud. How y'all even know what he's

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of this And though, oh my.

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Speaker 7: Daughter, how I got Mike Cloud. It don't matter. Don't

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Speaker 7: tell me what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was him throw you. I was that Nick already

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Speaker 1: stopped playing with me.

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Speaker 5: Bro Dirk even doing what he did, but the made

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Speaker 5: the the bigg ass.

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Speaker 1: Collaboration the murror. Do you call it a mural? On

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Speaker 1: from the Gray?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 1: Do you call it Maryland? Okay? So Dirk had a

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Speaker 1: Collidge mural.

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Speaker 5: At the show that he had me hold all the

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Speaker 5: dead guys in Chicago let him and some U for

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Speaker 5: I say, what was that a cloud?

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Speaker 1: Little cause Madre? Was that that ship for cloud?

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Speaker 5: Right? Let's break this ship down, man, Let's just break

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Speaker 5: this ship down. So when people try to say Dirk

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Speaker 5: ain't hide is up here? Dirk ain't hide that put

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Speaker 5: it like this, I will say it was a collective,

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Speaker 5: a group decision.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't.

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Speaker 5: No, oh, we ain't got this mon face up here,

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Speaker 5: so him, no, let's have a little bit of everybody.

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Speaker 1: From every hood game.

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Speaker 5: You know, its like that shit stupid. But that's just like,

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Speaker 8: Ran?

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Speaker 7: Duck mama ducked up up? Why because I got dunk

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Speaker 1: Hell, I ain't no fan. Let me tell you that

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Speaker 2: I ain't nowhere in hell my kids selling their crime

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Speaker 2: the nigga nothing not none of that. At the end

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Speaker 4: Then like that.

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Speaker 1: But I ain't nowhere. Hell, I'm going on campus. I'm

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Speaker 8: My kids.

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Speaker 1: Ain't you not nigger?

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Speaker 3: The conversation that we're looking at is did you are

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Speaker 4: You judge a tree by the fruit that it baars.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about nobody else, but you can't run

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Speaker 3: Some people may question it, like, hey, yo, what is

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, get your shine on. But there's a reason

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Speaker 4: But they really in it for profit. Niggas they're making money,

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Speaker 4: and so who and my to be like, yo' I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saving y'all relationship. I'm stopping violence between you and your people.

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Speaker 3: When I got I got family, don't talk too I

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Speaker 3: my guard. And if that sounds selfish to you, then

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Speaker 3: you don't understand from which I came. And so there's

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Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: I am gonna say this though when I you know,

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Speaker 3: Jay Maine is Jay Main.

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Speaker 4: I don't know Jay Main. Now here's a reason why

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Speaker 4: people look at it and say, man, what it's Jay Main?

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Speaker 3: Genuine I don't even want to get into the Dirk

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Speaker 3: understand why people say that Dirk could have used that

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Speaker 4: Of strategic move.

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Speaker 3: But if you pay attention to Jay Man's career and

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Speaker 3: Maine in the hood, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 4: They think he funny.

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Speaker 3: See, because they wasn't introduced to Jay Maine on Pushing Peace.

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Speaker 3: They would introduce to Ja Main on some comedy shit.

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Speaker 3: There's a sector of people that was introduced to Ja

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Speaker 3: this dude is subject to cloud chase, as if a

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Speaker 4: He's all in.

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Speaker 3: He's clearly in this game to entertain and make some money.

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Speaker 3: And what charge in white and these other people are

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Speaker 3: trying to insinuate is that, Yo, this one caught five

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Speaker 3: it and he's staying on the push and piece. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you that there's no way to stop violence

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Speaker 3: I hope the young niggush and peace. But I'm also

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Speaker 3: And the fact that they talk about you know, how

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Speaker 3: Dirt could try to use it. I don't think Dirk

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Speaker 3: no war Dirk had in the war. Dirk was someone

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Speaker 3: they're gonna reference probably to push the peace segment at

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Speaker 3: that while that's a big deal, I still understand why

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Speaker 3: Nick Jona with some serious saying he pushing peace number one.

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Speaker 3: To push peace, you gotta be a knick like that,

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Speaker 3: Like you gotta be one of them ones. You know

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Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about no shooter, Like the shooter

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Speaker 3: it's like, all right, how did you find Jamine? A

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Speaker 3: see what I'm saying. Not that now one of us

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Speaker 3: And so when I have a conversation with Jay Man,

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Speaker 3: When we take off down this road, without the structure,

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Speaker 3: let's look at some more, let's.

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Speaker 5: Break the shit down, because you the type of that's

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: We have to accept that we got.

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Speaker 7: If you're not gonna let the nigga ain't step up,

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Speaker 7: It's wrong with you, no pleas for all. You ain't

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Speaker 7: how is y'all put the piece? Let's let's break down

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Speaker 1: Jay Man, it's not right to go up there and

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Speaker 2: I see my pip the kids crossing, I say all that, nigga,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: I was told that that's one of the one. That's

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Speaker 2: Man, you go co workers and politicize my body the

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Speaker 1: The nigga they got. I feel like it's heart Tames.

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Speaker 1: We did talk to the mass may go. They just hollered,

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Speaker 1: was one of them those gonna crash out.

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00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: Now him changed, You changed the crash out for I

438
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: was donle crash out my kids. I ain't no do

439
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: they made money this and that, but then they absolute

440
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: you were trying to do it. But SMA, just say

441
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: what the people want to want to hear from you.

442
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Nah, I gotta break the shit down. Butter felt some

443
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,239
Speaker 1: type of way.

444
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 8: Bro.

445
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: See, I don't like this kind of talk because from

446
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 3: the outside looking in, Jay Maine won one of them

447
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: domborts that were gonna crash out because the crash shot

448
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: come before the homelessness. You see what I'm saying. So

449
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: for me, you doing yourself a disservice and them young,

450
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: them kids that everybody keep talking about, them kids that

451
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: everybody keep talking about. Jay Maine is doing a disservice

452
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: to them kids when he say I was one of

453
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 3: the ones that was gonna crash out, knowing damn well,

454
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: he had faith, Knowing damn well, he believed something was

455
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: gonna happen. He knew that if I kept grinding, God

456
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: was gonna make a way. But he get up on

457
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: these interviews and say that you don't end up homeless

458
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: before you crash out, My nigga, if you're a crashout artist,

459
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: the crash out come way before NI get homeless. And

460
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: I think you doing yourself a disservice, right, Get that

461
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: under the guard and say, nah, I believe in God.

462
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: I believe something was gonna happen. If I kept forward

463
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: with the universe, was going to line and speak and

464
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: break open and act in concert on my behalf in

465
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: front of my haters and make a table in front

466
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: of these fuck Get that glory to God, all that

467
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: plump faking like Nick ready to crash shot, but nigga

468
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: end up homeless. We gotta keep it real in front

469
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 3: of these children.

470
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 6: Basically, under that step point if you really push the

471
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 6: peace though, like all buys and that game.

472
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: I represent all them faces that was up there, and

473
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: not just the geez nigga. Let's talk about it.

474
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 7: I represent all them faces that's up there because I

475
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 7: could have been any one of them dead individuals.

476
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 5: Oh do you still don't get a gang? And that's

477
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 5: why it be crazy to me. You still don't get it.

478
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 5: You still don't get it. I wish Glaz was here

479
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 5: so I could smack the hell because I know he

480
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: don't get it. Right now, it's different ware your home,

481
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: yet Shan is different.

482
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: He don't get it. There is easy that you don't

483
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: get it. Yes, yes, yes, that is every day. That's

484
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: why I go so hard. That's why you see me

485
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: risking my life at oh block and ship like that,

486
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: and I got a daughter ship.

487
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 6: I don't know, bro, what was it like going to block.

488
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I ain't been over there, you know, I

489
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 6: used to live in o Black Shin. I ain't been

490
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 6: over there some years. You know, just a couple of them,

491
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 6: you know, we've been over there in a couple of years.

492
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 6: And shit, so it was good. It was good to

493
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 6: welcome to walk over there.

494
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: Being welcome. It's a difference when you're being welcomed somewhere.

495
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm from them grave because once.

496
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 5: I got welcomed, I'm like, damn, this is the start

497
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 5: of it, because now the kids is gonna look at

498
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: it like, well, ship everybody something that Jake main due.

499
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: I chased it for these kids. Now you know what

500
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think you should have brought the Duck

501
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: kids with the show. That would have been crazy. I see,

502
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: y'all would have been crazed. I think you should have

503
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: did that, and as you should have did this, you

504
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: should have did that time time do tail.

505
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. Oh my face, bro, y'all

506
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 5: don't know what I was finna do. Y'all don't know

507
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: what all y'all saying?

508
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: What happened though? On folding number.

509
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 5: Let's start down, so put it like this and then

510
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 5: when it's when the situation is so touchy, it's our

511
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: situation on food them. We're trying to were really trying

512
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 5: to do that possible ship we ain't did before. Bro,

513
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: this ship ship, Harriet, tell me did shit rain? You

514
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 5: still don't understand with duck folk on my daughter when

515
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 5: he did Chicago lessards me being for sixty third.

516
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: That shit made me cry. Folk, That shit made me cry.

517
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: It's no other song that I could say that phone

518
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: them ever made.

519
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: Nobody that the world ever made that made me cry,

520
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 5: my dame. So it hit different when it's like this

521
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 5: song made me cry? Why was it the betrayal? Or

522
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 5: did I feel betrayed when Duck did some shit?

523
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 6: This because of all them that we lost, Like how

524
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 6: you said, how you would have felt like damn what you'

525
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 6: on stage?

526
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 8: Fun?

527
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was a hurt behind

528
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: the ship, like, Duck, what is you doing?

529
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 5: Duck?

530
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 1: What is you doing? You have we don't lot too many?

531
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: What did you do? Why is you moving like this?

532
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: Duck paying the way for me to do what I'm

533
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 5: doing now. Game, y'all gotta wait the game. I got

534
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: Duck tight the biggest hell on my back.

535
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 8: Game.

536
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 5: It hit different, folk, like let's just break this ship down. Folk,

537
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 5: this is my cousin's father. Game, my cousin don't have

538
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: a father due to this goofy ass water that y'all

539
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 5: continue to that fans from the outside, gas up, heat up.

540
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: That's why I'm like Joe character right now, ring. I

541
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 5: put you, but I don't like none of that negative

542
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 5: ship that you that you if you contradicting the woman,

543
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 5: if you're trying to go against the wool man and

544
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: it's crazy.

545
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm just trying to make you gi He can

546
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: to common note bullshit. He'll play the role he need

547
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: to play, and I'm gonna give him. But cool, yep,

548
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: what if the did that help you with the fig No,

549
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: they didn't have to do that. It had to do

550
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: with He needs the.

551
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: Ship, he needs a CEE, the counseling, He needs eye

552
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: behind him because he makes a bigger, bigger situation. You

553
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: need the high powers whoever you need to do. You

554
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: need the whole city behind him. So what we do is,

555
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get jam Maine. I'm gonna gonna get the

556
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: gangsters that really love. I'm not gonna get the gangstert

557
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: That's really no question. We're gonna have to kind of

558
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: a real sit down in front of everybody in a

559
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: room where we're gonna really be peaced. We go get

560
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: Jamie Jamaine self that really love. I mean that really

561
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: that really love, the situation, that love the people.

562
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: That's don't it.

563
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna change for nobody, and I'm gonna see

564
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: this room. And since since that makes your peak selfish for.

565
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: Their kids, Like if I don't want to change this

566
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: right now, is that selfish for duct kids? Or like

567
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: vice Verson, you'll find the kids can look at your

568
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: face and say, I know they were gim you in

569
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: your face. It's like, I know you can do it

570
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: a class. I know dirt change. They don't put it

571
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: out there with them when it comes to his kids.

572
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: It shouldn't even matter if that guy change is what

573
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 5: we have going on because I'm family, that's not their family.

574
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: I understand it, but there but you see kids with

575
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: the person, they gotta look at say maybe do he

576
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: have something to do?

577
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 5: Dad?

578
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 8: Got it?

579
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't have When you when you when

580
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: you saying when you see me in dirt shire in

581
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: I have seen this.

582
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: I said, I'm saying, but you stay, You're just at

583
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: the part. So I'm seeing That's why asking I want

584
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: to speak back. I want are you talking?

585
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: Let's speak backs so you don't want to you don't

586
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: want to throw the people out. Did you get this mother,

587
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: because he need SI fast? But did you look at

588
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: him in the isay with gen Jose, Sir, did you know?

589
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's a that's a I

590
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: feel like that's a real question though, like do you

591
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: really feel like it's you feel like you want? Do

592
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: you feel like he was how many times at this point?

593
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: Because how many times do I say, did I say

594
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: that it was Genie? How many times you feel? Okay?

595
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: So the question is is it genuine?

596
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: The problem here, I think is that that's a two

597
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: way question because genuine from dirt. Yes, he's answered that,

598
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: but I believe the elephant in the room that they

599
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: refuse to give pe us is there. They're wondering is

600
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: it genuine from Jay Maine? I hope it's genuine from

601
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: Jay Maine. I'm wondering is it effective and if it

602
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: is teaching to me? Because I need to be able

603
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: to show one need little niggs how to do that.

604
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, because if you can run

605
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 3: around with some cereal and stop violence, somebody got explained

606
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: that to me. I understand how influence works, but I

607
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: also understand the politics in the streets, and so the

608
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: connection from the internet cereal and doing interviews with both

609
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: sides versus the war in the streets.

610
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: Y'all got explain to me how they connect.

611
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 3: And I'm offering my platform, you know, for those kind

612
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: of conversations like because you know, for me, I ain't

613
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: gonna lie some kind of be smelling fishy about it,

614
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But like all of us

615
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: got a purpose, we got to push our line and

616
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: push our purpose. I think, you know, some of us

617
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: are find some of us to keep reaching in that room,

618
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: keep reaching in their closet, in their bag and pulling

619
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: shit out and trying new shit. And I think it

620
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: is a strength in that to be Shane Tooshon. Yeah,

621
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: it's a strength in being Shane Tooshon nigga to turn

622
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: into somebody else then that ain't working, turn into this

623
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: when yeah, you know what I mean. It takes willpower

624
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: to have to really be you and try to make

625
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: it work from beginning to the end, you know what

626
00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

627
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: But again, I hope that this thing is genuine what

628
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: Jay Maine is doing.

629
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: I think dirt it's as genuine as it could be

630
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: as he was in the position he was in. But

631
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: at some point, man, I'm gonna get to talking to

632
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: some of these Chicago dudes. And I'm gonna start asking

633
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: how these things connect, because when you're asking me, I

634
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: just some about it, just saying it ain't making sense.

635
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: But Salute the J Main, you know what I mean.

636
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: Salute the J Maine, Salute the rain Water, Salute the

637
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: Saint Cheese. You know, I think SAYT Cheese is like WWE.

638
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: Now he like w c W. Academics is WWE, and

639
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: no Jump is e c W. You know what I mean.

640
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: And so.

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: I watched wrestling sometime. You dig what I'm saying. Let's

642
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: move on.

643
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, It's Wallow two six seven year now tuned

644
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: into It's Up There podcast Man with my Man loom Man.

645
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Check him out.

646
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 8: Attatatatas