1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Show. I have a number of friends 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: who their parents are prominent people, famous people, either in 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: the city, of the state, or even in the country. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: And I've noticed it can be a toll for a 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: child to bear as you grow into adulthood. And usually 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: by adulthood you learn, you learn to deal with that. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: But when you're a kid, it's got to be tough. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: You grow, you're growing up, and everyone has this expectation. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Imagine being Ronald Reagan's son couldn't have been easy. In 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Michael Reagan released the book Lessons My Father 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Taught Me The Strength, integrity and Faith of Ronald Reagan. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: This is a clip of Ronald Reagan's speech on Father's 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Day in nineteen eighty six. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: What does fatherhood mean today in America? I guess the 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: same as it always has. Fatherhood can sometimes be walking 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: the floor at midnight with a baby that can't sleep. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: More likely, fatherhood is repairing a bicycle wheel for the 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: emptienth time, knowing that it won't last the afternoon. Fatherhood 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: is guiding a youth through the wilderness of adolescence toward adulthood. 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: Fatherhood is holding tight when all seems to be falling 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: apart and is letting go when it is time to part. 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Fatherhood is long hours at the blast furnacer, in the fields, 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: behind the wheel, or in front of a computer screen, 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: working a twelve hour shift, or doing a six month 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: tour of duty. It's giving one's all from the break 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: of day to its end on the job, in the house, 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: but most of all in the heart. Now, if you're thinking, 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: look who's talking, he's a father himself. That's right. But 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: on today I think we could all remember this weekend 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: at least, that every father is also a son. So 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: on this day for fathers, we too say thanks to 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: America's dads for the labor and legacy of our families 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: and our freedoms. Until next week, thanks for listening. God 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: bless you. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: Michael Reagan is the president of the Reagan Legacy found 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: He is an author the book Lessons My Father Taught Me, 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: and he is a Newsmax contributor. 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Michael Reagan, you spend your life dealing with the Reagan Legacy. 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: No one knows it better than you. When you hear 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: your father speak, what comes to mind? 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm reminded about with the piece that 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: you I just played. Is the fact. I remember the 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: letter he sent me when I got married, and he 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: was just talking about being a husband. But at the 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: end of it he wrote, ps, You'll never get in 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: trouble if you say I love you once a day. 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: And so it was a great storyteller in the stories 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: he was telling there about a father and what he does. 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: I have a son, Cameron, who just his wife just 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: gave birth to their third child's five months old, and 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: he's up, you know, at night, walking the little baby 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: gage around. He's got two little girls, and seven year 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: old and a five year old, you know, the school. 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 4: And I watched, I watch him being a father. And 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times I've said to 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: my son, Cameron, if I wasn't your father, I want 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: you to be mine, because he's such a great kid 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: and it has become a great father himself. And so 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: it's great to be able to watch your offspring. And 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure for my dad to have watched Pauline and 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: I and Cameron, the birth of Cameron, the birth of 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: Ashley and all of those things. And I learned a 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 4: lot of lessons from my dad as I write writing 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: that book and I'm just reminded of them, you know, 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: when it comes to Father's Day. How I learned about America. 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: I learned about America saying the right foot see of 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: the station wagon and he's given Saturday right after the 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Rams and haven't jail me with songs of the Army, 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: the Navy, the rink or the coast Guard, and learning 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: about America and the greatness of America eight years old 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: writing out to the rich and just in awe of 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: listening to the stories. I also learned about the tax 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: system in America writing ranch because I asked him for 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: a larger allowance, and I heard about the taxes in America, 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: which a ten year old doesn't care about. He just 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: cares again to give me, give me the money. That's right. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: But he did make the problems. He said, listen to 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: President's elected. It gives me a tax break. I'll give 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: you a larger allowance. And it was kenned and gave 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: him a tax break. And he raised my allowance from 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 4: what a dollar a week to five dollars a week. 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: So he was, uh, yeah, he's missed on he's missed 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: on this day with our family. But what's great is 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: the fact that We have our own family now with 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: Cameron and Ashyar Guard just got married to young Policeman's 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: been Young Policeman twenty years in service, Lieutenant Watch Command. 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: He's got three of his own kids. So we've now blended. 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: The family's gotten larger, if you will. But it is 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 4: so much about the father, you know, in the worry 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: we have today, we have so many fatherless homes, but 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: you know, I was. I was raising the father's home. 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: Mother and my father were divorced when I was three 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: years old. But I never lacked the fathers. And there's 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: a huge difference between being when the father is home 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: and lacking the father. My dad made sure that I 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: never lacked the fathers. That their Saturday mornings driving over 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: to my mom's, I remember that red station wagon coming 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: around the corner from Sunset Boulevard down Beverly Glen and 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: picking me up with me and my sister, Me and 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: my sister and a friend's up and writing out to 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: the ranch. He never never stopped being a father to us. 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: And too often in the world we live in today, 103 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: you go through divorce, and I write in one of 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: my books, said divorces when two parents walk into a 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: child's room. Take everything the child loves and knows, breaks it, 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: walks out of the room and expects the child to 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: put it back together. And we don't, as children put 108 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 4: it back together. And you're right, you have to. You 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: have to get into adulthood and you hopefully look back 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: and say, Okay, I get it, I understand it. But 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: too many people don't. Too many people use what happened 112 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: to them and they're childhood as an excuse to fail 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 4: in adulthood. 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Michael Reagan, how are you a different father to Cameron 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: than President Ronald Reagan was to you. 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: I didn't run for office, I didn't get the but 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: even though I was a politic, probably I was able 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: to do more things with Cameron. Dad, we went to 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: the ranch. We didn't really go like when you opened 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: up Disneyland. I used to and my dad, I said, 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: you know, when you're up disney Land back in nineteen 122 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: fifty five, Yes, I said, was there any point during 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: that day you thought yourself I should have brought the kids? 124 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: No? 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: I said, well, I know the answer is no, But 126 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: at some point did you'd think maybe a kid would 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: have had a good timer today? But you know, you 128 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: live in Hollywood with actors and actresses. The problem is 129 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: they take their kids with them and all of a 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: sudden and they're being bothered by signing autographs, doing this 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: and doing that, and that gets very bothers himself, very 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: rarely to go to a baseball game, football game, or 133 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: Disneylander or what have you, and with my kids. I mean, 134 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: I was in radio for twenty six twenty seven years 135 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: and people know who I am, and still some people 136 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: come up. But I could take my kids and go 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: to disney Land or go here and do things without 138 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: being bothered by people come in into the arena and 139 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: stopping me from having a wonderful moment with my family. 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: So I'm able to do more of those things that 141 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: my dad wasn't really able to do or my mother 142 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: was able to do. You remember my mom, Jane Wyman. 143 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: She was been catch me out, Hollywood back, Academy Award winner, 144 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: Golden Globe, Winter, all of those things, and they were 145 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: the hot ticket back in nineteen nineteen forties. So you know, 146 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: that's probably how I'm different in that way. I'm able 147 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: to spend more time. As I say in the book, 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: my best time with my dad was prior to politics. 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: And after politics, I had a relationship with em and 150 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: I had a great relationship even as we go into 151 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: going to Alzheimer's. And I talk about the hug in 152 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: the book where you know I was one of those 153 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: guys using the excuse who my dad did tell me 154 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: he loved me, So you know, I'm gonna be really 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: not that great of a kid. And the first time 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: I told him I loved to my huggin and he 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: told me why, I love you too, And I thought 158 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: to myself, so if I would have told him, he 159 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: would have told me. And I realized I had never 160 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: told my dad I loved him, and yet I was 161 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: upset that he never told me he loved me. 162 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: Our guest is Michael Reagan. He's the author of the 163 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: book Lessons My Father taught me the strength, integrity and 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: faith of Ronald Reagan and with Father's day upon us 165 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: a man whose father was something of a father of 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: the nation beloved. And Michael Reagan is the president of 167 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: the Reagan Legacy Foundation. He's also an author, as we 168 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: mentioned in the book, and he's a Newsmax contributor. 169 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: Michael, is it. 170 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: Hard for you when you travel as you do and 171 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: people talk about your father as if he was not human, 172 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: and he was as we all are. He had his 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: own foibles and failings. Does it bother you that they're 174 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: not getting the complete picture of him, because that's not 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: who he. I love an a door like many people, 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, I quote his speeches on. Does it bother 177 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: you that this isn't even being fair to his true legacy? 178 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: No. 179 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: I think what's great about Wrong Reagan is the fact 180 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: that being his sign doesn't matter where I go in 181 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: the world. He's beloved by everybody. You know, he all 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: changed the world back in the nineteen eighties. And the 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: problem we have today. I was doing a thing for 184 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: Polish television the other day. I said, you know, we 185 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: don't have the lequlensis, the back, the hovels, the helmet coles, 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: the Pope, John Paul, the Maggie thatchers, Mikile Gorbyschov's in 187 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: the world aay or that leadership isn't here and the 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: world is suffering because of it. And probably what you're 189 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: not aware of. I travel a lot and I speak 190 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: to people in other parts of the world a lot 191 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 4: is the fact everything they did made freedom for a 192 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: whole generation of people. That's being lost because Poland's reverting 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: back to what it was. Germany has never really left, 194 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: but they've reverted back. You've got people being elected into 195 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: leadership and these countries that became free that are back 196 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: on the communist side of the equation. And that's really 197 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: sad because we don't have those leaders deal with us. 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: But I tell you, I tell people when they go 199 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: up and visit my dad's ranch. Young America's Foundation bought 200 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: it a few years ago, twenty five years ago, and 201 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: they take kids up, their high school kids and college 202 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: kids would come in for events. And I tell young 203 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: people and their parents when they go up there, and say, 204 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: when you walk in the door of that house, which 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: is exactly the way it was the last day my 206 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: dad was there because he did not know he wasn't 207 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: going back because of Wallsingers, and they kept it absolutely 208 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: the way it was. I said, when you walk in 209 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: that house and you open that door, everything you've thought 210 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: about Ronald Reagan, every vision you believe you had about 211 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Ronald Reig, You'll say, by God, I was right. He 212 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: was exactly who I thought he was. And that's the 213 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: magic of Ronald Reagan. 214 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I often say that it makes for terrible radio when 215 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: the host pauses to contemplate what he's just heard. And 216 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: that's why I explain the silence. It isn't a lack 217 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: of anything to say, it is actually listening rather than 218 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: just asking the next question. The book Lessons my Father 219 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: taught Me about your father, Ronald Reagan, the strength, integrity, 220 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: and faith of the man. Tell me a little bit 221 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: about the way you are a better father than you 222 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: would have been by drawing on an influence not of 223 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan the president, the governor, the actor, the guild president, 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: but as Ronald Reagan the father. What's something you draw 225 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,359 Speaker 1: upon a positive aspect of his fatherhood? 226 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: Forgiveness last thing I write in the book. If I 227 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: hadn't learned to forgive, I would not be the father 228 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: I am the husband I am to my wife Warbly 229 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: forty eight years in November. I had to learn to forgive, 230 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: and too many people don't learn to forgive. He forgave 231 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: John Hinckley for trying to kill him, Hope, John Paul 232 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: forgave the man who tried to assassinate him, and those 233 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: two people got together after both of them being shot. 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: That would be assassinates and really helped change the world. 235 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: And I think it all started with forgiveness. Dad forgiving 236 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: before he went back to the White House, poked John 237 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: Paul forgiving before he went back to his papal duties. 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: I had to learn to forgive things that had happened 239 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: to me as a child, being molested, being part of 240 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: child pornography by a day camp counselor. And I lived 241 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: with that all of my life, scared to death. That 242 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: would come out scared to death where people would think 243 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: of they're scared to death. They would ruin my father's 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: chances to become governor, become president of the United States, 245 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: and I was ruining my own life because of that. 246 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: I was blaming God, I was blaming everybody. They both 247 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: taught me. Pope John Paul and my father both taught 248 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: me forgive, Learn to forgive. Don't just recite the Lord's prayer. 249 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: Live the Lord's prayer. And when you start living the 250 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: Lord's prayer its just reciting it. It can change your life. 251 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: And it changed mind because I learned to forgive and 252 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: the rest his sister. 253 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: You know, Michael, it's interesting. I'm fifty two and in 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: my mind you're younger than me, so I looked up 255 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: before we started talking, and March eighteenth, you turned seventy eight. 256 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: And it's crazy. You can't be seventy eight. You're Ronald 257 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Reagan's kid. I remember you in the eight You're forever 258 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: stuck in the eighties, the early eighties. It's this young 259 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: man who you know. Look, I don't want to compare 260 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: you to Hunter Biden, but Hunter Biden will always be 261 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: to me Joe Biden's son. 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: Right. 263 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: He'll never be a man on his own because I 264 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: know him through Joe Biden, even though he grows up 265 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: to be a fully grown man. It's interesting to me 266 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: because seventy eight is my mom's age, right, And of 267 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: course my mom never aged to me either. But is 268 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: this a phenomenon you experienced a lot? Because we're talking 269 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: about your father and you're seventy eight, and it's something 270 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: you've embraced. And I think that took a lot of 271 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: maturity for you. It probably it probably took some forgiving 272 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: because you didn't ask for this life. Talk for a 273 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: minute or so about you as a human being and 274 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: how you dealt with all that and continue to deal 275 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: with that and make the most of it. Because I 276 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: admire that more than anything else. 277 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: I think the toughest thing is like when I got 278 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: into radio, every he said I was going to fail 279 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: because the only thing I had to offer is being 280 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: wrong with Reggans suck, so I thought it was kind 281 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: of cool. I lasted twenty six, twenty seven years before 282 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: I left. Nobody fired, and I just left. And I 283 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: think the hardest thing is when you see your kids 284 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: not good a job and the same thing happened to me. 285 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: Not good job because they don't need a job because 286 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: they're wrong Riggan's grandchild, so they don't think they need 287 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: any money or so. It's getting credit sometimes for the 288 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: things you've done. You worked your ass off to get there, 289 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: and people don't give you credit. They just see you 290 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: as the son of Ronald Reagan. They don't see you 291 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: as a human being who's worked that People like don't 292 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: know when my dad became governor of California. Now, I 293 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: was working on trucking doctor in La loading OOO for 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: eight from five at nine till oneot thirty in the morning. 295 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: That's what I was doing. And I was doing that 296 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: because I dropped out of college and my parents said 297 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: to me, well, you know, while you were in college, 298 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: we were paying for it. You dropped out, go get 299 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: a job and find another place to live. And so 300 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: that's what I had to do. But people don't see 301 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: that and want don't don't want to believe it because 302 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: we put people who are famous up on pedestals and 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: so we seek their children are you know, don't have 304 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: to do anything in life. They just they get to 305 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: hand me downs and so on. And I was blessed 306 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: because I had had parents who were born in the Midwest, 307 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: who had that Midwest mentality work ethic, who put that 308 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: on to me and my parents when I started radio, 309 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: I started my national show. I was one of the 310 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: radio shows canceled by your guy named Rush Limbaugh, and 311 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: I said, we're I have to find another job. But 312 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: I decided to start a national show doing dollars before 313 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: they do it to you again. But I was having 314 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: to get off the ground. I was driving to San 315 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: Diego and back every day from LA and two or 316 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: sixty two miles a day. And I called my mother 317 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: one day. I said, geez, I need some help. No 318 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: money come in. We're trying to get this off the ground. Mom, 319 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: what can you do? Can you help me? She says, 320 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: absolutely is oh, great man, what can you do? She says, 321 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: I can tell you this. Shut up and keep driving. 322 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: She hung up on me, and I called her back. 323 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: I said, do you hang up on me? She said yes? 324 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: I said why? She said, did somebody die and say 325 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: you didn't have to pay your dues like everybody else? 326 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: Who made you special? I said, nobody died. Well, shut 327 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: up and keep driving. And that national show lasted nineteen years. 328 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: So I'm blessed with who they are. But the public, 329 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 4: the public sees famous people in a different way, and 330 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 4: they don't. Sometimes they don't give the kids a break, 331 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: if you will, And they don't see the way we 332 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 4: are raised. They think we are raised differently than what 333 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: we are raised, and that gets in the way. 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