1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and The Black Effect. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Hey there, I know y'all haven't. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Heard from me personally solo. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Wized on a solo episode. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: In a minute, but if you stay tuned, I'm going 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: to tell you what I was doing. Okay, now, hello, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: good people, Welcome to another episode of Checking In. It's 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: been an amazing couple of weeks. 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: Well how do I say amazing? 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Well, two things can be true. You can still make 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: amazing progress and have some wins while still looking at 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the world around you and how there's been so much chaos, unrest, war, 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: just whatever we want to call it, you know, war, unrest, 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: just whatever you. 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: Want to call it. 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: Heck, it could be war within yourself, war in your home, 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: unresting your home, unresting yourself, unrest on your job, unrest 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: in relationships. So I just want to acknowledge that you know, 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: yes you can. You could have gotten a promotion, but 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: still acknowledge what you saw on the news that has 22 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: been scary and absolutely horrific and just like confusing and 23 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: all the things. 24 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: That's why I like to check in. 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: So making sure that you check in with yourself you 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: check in with others, and you check in with God 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: that you're meditating, you're centering yourself, you're breathing, you're checking 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: in with yourself, asking your wait a minute, how am 29 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I doing? How many of y'all have not asked that 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: of yourself? How am I doing? 31 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: How am I really doing? 32 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: And taking the time to acknowledge how you're really doing 33 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and go beyond oh, I'm good, I'm cool. But then, well, 34 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: if you say I'm good, what makes you good? And 35 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: there's no wrong answer. Hey, I woke up this morning. 36 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: That's enough for me. 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm good. 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I didn't go off on nobody. I used the tools 39 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: my therapist gave me. 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 41 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: You could have been on the subway and you had 42 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: your eye on a certain seat or wherever you wanted 43 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: to stand, and somebody just got in your way, or 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: they cut you off in traffic, and you're like, no, what, 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I didn't stick up my middle finger at them. 46 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: I let it ride. You're like, Michelle, stick up your 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: middle finger. Yes, I said it. 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I've seen my dad stick up his middle finger at 49 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: people before. Rest in peace, Dad. I don't think i've 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: done that before. I have, but in like being funny. 51 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be sticking up our middle fingers that people, though. 52 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Could you imagine that's like when somebody sticks up their 53 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: middle finger at you. 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: That's like you're the gutter. 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: And when you think of the gesture, it is funny 56 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: at the same time, but it's gotta be humiliating and embarrassing, 57 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: and like I said, it's gotta make you feel like 58 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: gum on the bottom of a shoe. 59 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: We're not doing that. We're not doing that. 60 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure it feels good in the moment, but maybe 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I should practice it. No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. 62 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: We're not practicing. We're not practicing that. We're not going 63 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: to reinforce what could be seen as bad behavior. Okay, 64 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: And I don't want y'all doing that, anybody listening, don't 65 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: do that, Okay, don't do it. 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: It has been. 67 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Wow, it's been a pretty busy season, a pretty busy 68 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: month between February and now. What you have seen recently 69 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: with me on the Sherry Shepherd Show, Honey, Oh my god, 70 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: she got me to do something I have not done 71 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: since January. Oh, I took Oh, she had me eat 72 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: a nugget. Oh, that's what gave me the food poisoning. Oh, 73 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: and I cannot confirm or deny if that was the 74 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: actual place where the nuggets came from. Because Wendy's has nuggets, 75 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: Chick fil A has nuggets, McDonald's has nuggets, who else? 76 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Who else has nuggets? 77 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: All kind of places got nuggets and chicken tenders or 78 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, chicken bites. Everything is 79 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: a nugget to me. I don't care if it's a 80 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: chicken tender. Might I still might call it a nugget. 81 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't believe it. 82 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I guess I agreed to it, and I was like, 83 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: let me see what happens. 84 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: Ooh, she unveiled that thing. M No, I do not, y'all. 85 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: When you've been sick, that's sick from eating something, or 86 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: if you maybe drank too much and you got sick, 87 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to touch or even see what it 88 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: was that made you so sick in the first place. 89 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: So I didn't want no smoke, and I don't want 90 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to ever be that sick. You know why, because I 91 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: miss being on the stage. I have to call out 92 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and not be able to work and serve honey. So yeah, 93 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: that was fun and just the love Sherry has given me. 94 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: We are all. 95 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: Saddened about the Sherry Show cancelation, but my prayer is 96 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: that she and everybody connected with the show they were 97 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: able to pivot and grab hold to. 98 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Something else be successful. 99 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: A cancelation does not necessarily mean the end of one's 100 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: career or the end of a dream. You know, it's 101 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: the end of that particular season, it's the end of 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: that particular era, and it's the end of maybe that 103 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: particular system that you are in. 104 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: Find another one and thrive. 105 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: And everybody, they're the producers, the interns, they are all 106 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: so talented and so kind. So I really really, really 107 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: really believe in my prayers that everyone is going to 108 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: be okay. So shout out to my girl, Sherri Shepherd. 109 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Shout out to John Murray as well, former executive producer 110 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: of The Sherry Shepherd Show. 111 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: I really believe everybody's gonna be all right. 112 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: It's been so much, Oh my gosh. This past weekend 113 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I was able to go to LA and sing at 114 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Campbell Hall. 115 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: Y'all. 116 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I've got beyond Beyonce and Kelly who, I've got a 117 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: few other close friends who have children that go to 118 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: the school and it has been a joy seeing them 119 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: grown up, singing in the choir and singing my first love, 120 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: which is gospel music. That was a time Kelly and 121 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: b miss Tina, all of them were there and I 122 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: was like, to do what Jesus says, yes, I think Titan. 123 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Kelly was pregnant with Titan at the time, you know 124 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: what I mean. And so I you know, I don't. 125 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: It's just let me get my calendar. You know, when 126 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: you when you got so many nieces enophs, you. 127 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: Just you almost just stopped paying attention to even what 128 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: year everybody was born. Chad, I just remember, wait here 129 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: I go, there you go. I just remember, I think shucks, 130 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Blue wasn't Blue was a baby still when Jesus says yes, 131 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: came out. I don't even know if she was one 132 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: years old yet. So that was just an amazing moment. 133 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I got to be aunty and I saw some a 134 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: cool comment that. 135 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Was like, Yo, what a flex. 136 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: That is an amazing flex to be able to call 137 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: up your auntie, like, hey, would you come sing with 138 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: the school choir? And that's the blessing about having people 139 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: in your life and you show up for each other. 140 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: So just isn't it awesome if people show up for you? Yeah? 141 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you show up for each other, show up. So 142 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: that was amazing, you know. I let me tell you 143 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: some that Holy Spirit snatched me right on up. I've 144 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: been in my Broadway zone and sometimes when I just 145 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: get into space to where I can actually praise God. 146 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: And when that song when Jesus says yes, those words 147 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: still ring true. When Jesus says yes, nobody can say no, 148 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: not even you. 149 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: You know. 150 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: It's just like when God is the ultimate promise keeper. 151 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Humans not so much. 152 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: We mean well, when we say, y'all, I promise O, 153 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: man will fail you. But God keeps the promises. He 154 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: keeps his promises. The promises of God are yes, and 155 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: a man there are final. 156 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: It is sure. If God said it, you can count 157 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: on it coming to pass. Now. 158 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: It might not come in our timing and when we wanted, 159 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: but it sure shows up when you need it. 160 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, y'all know. I tries to. 161 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Keep my preaching to a minimum on here. But Mother 162 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: got excited. Oh. 163 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: I just started thinking of the goodness of God. 164 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: I started thinking of the goodness of God in the 165 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: lives of my friends, and family that were all in 166 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: that audience. It was good to see Erica Campbell. It 167 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: was good to see the artist major who snapped on 168 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: fantasy by Earth, Wind and Fire. 169 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: You hear me. 170 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Dietrich Hadding came out, gospel rock star. I know you're like, 171 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: how can you be a gospeltist be a rock star? 172 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: That Dietrich had it knows how to steal. You can 173 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: still feel the heart of God in it. But he's 174 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: still he knows how to balance, he knows how to 175 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: keep you engaged, up on your feet. Just and all 176 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: the kids who sang lead, all the kids who were 177 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: just who volunteered, who said, I just want to be 178 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: in the choir, such. 179 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Good, good, good energy. 180 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: Oh, two full hours of gospel sanging. 181 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: Lil Wayne was there. 182 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: It was just like, come on now, imagine just two 183 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: hours of your soul being filled and fed on the 184 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: good news. 185 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: Gospel simply means good news. 186 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, oh that was amazing. 187 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: I was exhausted. 188 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Flew in on a Saturday Saturday morning, did the performance, 189 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: Flew on a red eye to ensure that I was 190 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: back on the stage with my family at death becomes Her. 191 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't like missing. I don't like missing, But I'm 192 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: so glad for the producers who who let me, you know, 193 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: go do what I need to do at times. I 194 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: have a flexible job and I'm really thankful for that. 195 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Oh So what else? 196 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh did I really speak about the Grammys and just 197 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: how I guess impactful it was, and just to see 198 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: new artists or to see artists that we all came 199 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: up in the same era. 200 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 201 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: It was absolutely amazing, and I was like, you know, 202 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I kind of voluntarily sat myself down. I could have 203 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: been doing music, you know, but there is really no bud. 204 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: It's just well, I'll say this, sometimes you talk yourself 205 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: out of something that you know you really want to do, 206 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: regardless of the results, regardless of the outcome, you know 207 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you do want to feel supported 208 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: when you do your art, you know what I mean. 209 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: And so I just want. 210 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: To just really really be wise this next go round, 211 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: and you know, just I guess just put it out 212 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: for y'all and those that gravitate to it, gravitate to. 213 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean. Y'all have been. 214 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Amazing, faithful and loyal and just so supportive. So that's 215 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: who I would do music for and hopefully get introduced 216 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: to new people. 217 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: We'll see, we shall see. 218 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: But that was such a beautiful, full experience at the 219 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Grammys Again. The night of the Grammys, Beyonce and Kelly 220 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: threw an intimate dinner for me. Oh, I hate that 221 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I did not walk in that house as a Grammy winner. 222 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: But I did walk in the house as a Grammy 223 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: winner with them with Destiny's Child. But man, I wanted 224 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: I wanted that win so bad. 225 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: I wanted it so bad. So I've been wrestling with that. 226 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: I've been processing that. 227 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Man, when you want something so bad and then it 228 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: goes somewhere else, and that's a real thing. And it's 229 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: okay to be human. It's okay to be disappointed. 230 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: Not bitter. 231 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: You know when I, like I said on Sherry Shepherd, 232 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: like you know, when they call somebody else that's the name, 233 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: and then you gotta smile and cheese because you don't 234 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: know if the camera is gonna be on you, so 235 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: you smile and act all excited. 236 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Now, it's not to say that you don't have. 237 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: A genuine happiness for the other person, because guess what 238 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: they were nominated to. That means they were also nominated 239 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: by their peers, other musicians, artists, executives, writers, whoever that 240 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: thought that this was good enough as well, that we 241 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: were all good enough to be in the category with 242 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: each other. 243 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: So it's like, yo, they deserve it. They worked hard too. 244 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: But let's not lie in act and act like you 245 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: don't want to hear your name being called as the winner. 246 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so I have to keep it real. 247 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: But Buena Vista Social Club, who won the Best Musical 248 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Album at the Grammys, that album is fun Nahma, No. 249 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: Okay, it is a great album. 250 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: How do I know because I listened to it. 251 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: Great and you should listen. 252 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: When you're a voting member of the Recording Academy, you 253 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,479 Speaker 1: should listen to people's bodies of work in that particular 254 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: category and not just really vote off of popularity, right, 255 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: because somebody could be popular, but there could be something 256 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: else in the category or the musicality the performance. And 257 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm not just limiting this to the musical theater category 258 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: because all the albums Gypsy come on the singing and 259 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: let me tell you the singing and performance. I don't 260 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: care if it was an instrumental album. Those albums are phenomenal. 261 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: They are great, So there really is. It's some stiff competition. 262 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: And I'm sure some of y'all that are listening you 263 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: know what it means. By the time you get to 264 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the championships of any category, whether it's sports, culinary, aerospace, architecture, poetry, 265 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you do, by the time you 266 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: get to the championships, you are competing against somebody else. 267 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: That's great at what they do. 268 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: So that's really the honor, that really is the win, 269 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that really is the win. 270 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: Right. 271 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: But when the winner, you're like number one for that 272 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: particular time, So do not ever dismiss that you actually 273 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: wanted to win something. Don't dismiss that you got disappointed 274 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: when you didn't. But two things can be true. I'm 275 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: disappointed that we lost, but I also give kudos and 276 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: genuine hand collaps to the winner in that category, which 277 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: is the Buenavista Social Club. 278 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: The show is. 279 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: Doing amazing game, right, So yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 280 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: yes I encouraged myself right there. 281 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Wooh, that's so good. 282 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: It's so good, and I hope it encourages you that. 283 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: Yo. It's okay. 284 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: You had a great expectation of something and it did 285 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: not go the way you prayed or the way you desired. Okay, 286 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: so it now, don't don't make that your identity. 287 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm a loser. Oh, You're not a loser. 288 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: You're still a freaking winner. You're still freaking nominee, You're 289 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: still a champion, You're you're still one of the greats. 290 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: So tell yourself, whether you're in social work, you're a 291 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: teacher and you were nominated for an award and you 292 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't get it, you're still a great teacher to be nominated. Yeah, 293 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: you're still great. So tell yourself. You are still great. 294 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You're still that girl, You're still that guy, that g 295 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: that whatever you call yourself. 296 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: To be, You're still that. 297 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: All Right, the show is still going strong. I'm still 298 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: in the show till at least drum roll, till at 299 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: least October. And who knows, I might say, might as 300 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: well stay through the holidays, might as well stay through 301 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: top of twenty twenty seven. Who knows, But I will 302 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: say for sure, I believe until October of twenty twenty seven. Okay, alright, 303 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: you heard it from me. 304 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So get your tickets, get your tics, go. 305 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: To Broadwaydirect, dot com or wherever you go to safely 306 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: and legally get your tickets to death becomes her. 307 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: I want to see you. 308 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: All right, So I caught everybody up on the goings ons. Okay, Okay, 309 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: I caught everybody up. But I definitely I've been excited 310 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: about what's been going on. 311 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: Have been excited and how are y'all doing? 312 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I know I've been, you know, thinking about everything going 313 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: on in our country and in our world. I talked 314 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: to my niece today because she's in the army, and 315 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: she was like, Auntie, I promise you I'll keep the 316 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: family breast of everything going on. I was like, okay, 317 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: because she could hear like, hey, what's going on? Are 318 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: you going to have to be deployed? Are you gonna 319 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: have to go? But you know, I honor her because 320 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: that is a brave decision that she has made to 321 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: join the army. 322 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: Okay, And she is the type. 323 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: She likes to jump out of plane, she likes to 324 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: camp out, sleep in the rain and in the mud, 325 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: and by she you know, so she has she's brave, 326 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: right Because even when you're brave, that does not dismiss 327 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: that you're afraid. 328 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: But you do it anyway knowing that you have the 329 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: tools knowing you're doing what you were taught. 330 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: So I'm brave. I'm going to be brave. I am 331 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: going to be brave. Matter of fact, let's look up 332 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: the meaning of the word brave. Okay. The meaning of 333 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the word brave means too ready to face and endure 334 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: danger or pain, showing courage. Okay, that's according to websters. 335 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: But I also have the question, can you be brave 336 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: without fear? 337 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: Okay? 338 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Can you be brave without fear? And I don't know 339 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: how to pronounce his name, but according to Michael mogil, 340 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: there's no courage without fear. I've also seen it said 341 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: that courage is not the absence of fear. Brene Brown 342 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: says you can't get to courage without rumbling with vulnerability. 343 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: So being brave, you're still walking, you're still making moves, 344 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: and you're acknowledging. Just don't feel good. I don't know 345 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: what the outcome is gonna be. 346 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: So I like that. 347 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: This says essentially, being brave means acknowledging the fear but 348 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: refusing to let it stop you. Refusing to let it 349 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: stop you. It is the willingness to act in spite 350 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: of my fear. 351 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: According to full focused dot com. 352 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Now I don't know these people, okay, but I have 353 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the I have to acknowledge the source. 354 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 355 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: According to psych dot co, true courage isn't being fearless, 356 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: it's fearing well, oh. 357 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: Love that love that, love that love that. 358 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: So it's almost like thinking to yourself, what are the 359 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: projects that you need to tackle? What are some of 360 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: the things on the inside of you that you need 361 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: to tackle. 362 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: What are some of the hurdles that you need to 363 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: get over. 364 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: So just because you're afraid does not mean that that 365 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: thing cannot be done. You literally just did it afraid. 366 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: The slogan by Nike is just do it. It didn't 367 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: say just do it happy. It didn't say just do 368 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: it fearlessly. It said just do it all right. Oh 369 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: this is so good. I don't even know how I 370 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: got here, but it is so good. 371 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: It's so good. 372 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Is courage a matter of being fearless or a feeling 373 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: fear in. 374 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: The right way? M mm hmmm. 375 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Because if brave people face things that frighten others but 376 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: that they themselves do not find frightening, then one would 377 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: say there is nothing worthy of respecting that. That's to 378 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: understand how Aristotle navigated between these two answers of examining 379 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: his theory of virtue and feeling about the virtue of 380 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: courage and being brave. I also like this saying by 381 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Aristotle that the courageous person has something to lose, but 382 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: they have something to gain too. Listen, you could tackle 383 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: a project and not get the results, but at least 384 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: you can say you did it. That's why I don't 385 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of people who criticize people over social 386 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: media because it lets me know you ain't doing nothing, 387 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: because if you were doing something, you would understand the 388 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: courage it takes for a person to put themselves out 389 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: there to be judged, critiqued, to lose. So whenever you're 390 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: doing something, guys, and you decide I'm gonna be brave, 391 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this out, I'm gonna put myself out 392 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: there on social media, and you get a naysayer, you 393 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: gotta know they must ain't never done nothing, because if 394 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: they did something, they would show grace. They would just 395 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: say congratulations. They would say, listen, I know you didn't 396 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: get the result that you wanted, but you did it anyway. 397 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: You showed up. 398 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: So we have to just tell ourselves, I am going 399 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: to show up in spite of fear. I'm going to finish. 400 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Because how many of us said we was going to 401 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: do something and we didn't finish because you were afraid 402 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: of start over or you're afraid of failure. But how 403 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: do you literally, how do you know until you even try? 404 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: I've had to tell myself that, how do you think 405 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna fail at this? 406 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: You haven't even completed the assignment? 407 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: How do you know? That is why a good coach 408 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: and mentor is so important, because that coach and mentor 409 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: will help you get out of your own way. And 410 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: the reason why I say a coach or mentor because 411 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you can confide in like an immediate family member, 412 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and they might get intimidated. They might impose their fear 413 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: on you. They might project their fear on you because 414 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: you trigger a project that they were supposed to do. 415 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: You trigger something in them like were they man, I 416 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: didn't finish school like I was supposed to. 417 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: They didn't finish something. 418 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: So then you get all excited and you tell them 419 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: your plans and they kind of poop on it. So 420 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: get a coach or mentor who has results you want 421 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: to get coached by somebody who has results. You want 422 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to get coached by somebody who has the mindset that 423 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: you aspire to have, because it is mindset. And remember 424 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: that whatever you believe, whatever you believe, will happen. Your 425 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: mindset really is a combination of your beliefs, actions, and environment. Okay, 426 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: all right, I'm just telling y'all what I've learned along 427 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: the way. Your mindset is a combination of beliefs, actions, 428 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: and environment at times. Okay, So I just want you 429 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: to be encouraged that it is okay to feel afraid. 430 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: It is okay to feel afraid to untether. 431 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: From people. Love them from afar. 432 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: You ain't gotta cut them off, but I can imagine 433 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: the fear and that, oh gosh, what are they gonna think? 434 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Where they gonna say, They're gonna think I'm better than them. 435 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: You're just making better. 436 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: Choices, that's all. 437 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: We're not better than anybody, but some of y'all have 438 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: made better choices, and that's what makes you absolutely amazing. 439 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 440 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: So I just want to give y'all love and tell 441 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: y'all thank you for the love and support this far. 442 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited about the year ahead. We will stay prayerful. 443 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: I pray protect over you and your families, anybody that. 444 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: Listens to this podcast. I pray for protection. 445 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: I pray that no physical harm would come to you, 446 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: your family members, or your loved ones. I pray that 447 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: you and your family members and loved ones will continue 448 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: to thrive in a world in which things seem so uncertain. 449 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I love y'all so much. 450 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: Keep checking in. 451 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Don't forget to check in with yourself, check in with others, 452 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: and for sure check in with God. 453 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: Take care of me. 454 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: Checking In with Michelle Williams is a production of iHeart 455 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: Radio and The Black Effect. 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