WEBVTT - Instant Reaction: Vice Presidential Debate

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>And ninety minutes of debate between Senator JD Vance and

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Timwalls ends Welcome back to Bloomberg TV and radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Simulcast coverage of this debate on CBS. Of course, over

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<v Speaker 2>the next last ninety minutes, we saw Mike's hot and

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<v Speaker 2>facts sometimes checked, although jd Vance was not too happy

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<v Speaker 2>about that, as they fielded questions on a number of subjects,

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<v Speaker 2>and Governor Walls described himself as someone who frequently misspeaks.

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<v Speaker 2>He admitted he mispoke about a trip to China the

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<v Speaker 2>timing of that in nineteen eighty nine. He appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>misspeak once again in this debate, saying he'd become friends

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<v Speaker 2>with school shooters, while jd Vance, toward the end of

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<v Speaker 2>their discussion, refused to say whether or not Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the twenty twenty election. There were a number

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<v Speaker 2>of topics as well Joe Matthew that were not broached

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<v Speaker 2>in this debate, including questions around Ukraine, for example, or

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<v Speaker 2>the military service of Governor.

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<v Speaker 3>Walltz Yeah, both of which we did we hear quite

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of time spent on here, not the case

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<v Speaker 3>this evening. Some interesting choices when it came to topics,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, family leave instead of one of the two

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<v Speaker 3>hot wars that are raging right now around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and some interesting moments for both candidates. Tim Walls might

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<v Speaker 3>be remembered Kayley for his line about being friends with

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<v Speaker 3>school shooters. A lot of people are wondering what he

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<v Speaker 3>meant by that. It has already gone viral. Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, was updating things live online on truth Social

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<v Speaker 3>with a post now showing a lawn sign. It's already

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<v Speaker 3>been made Trump Vance twenty four not friends with school shooters.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's bringing our political panel. Rick Davis and Genie Shanzeno

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Politics contributors were watching along with us here, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course the question for both of you, did anyone

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<v Speaker 3>win this debate? Geenie? Was this a draw? Or do

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<v Speaker 3>we actually have a winner that moved the needle?

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<v Speaker 4>I think from a purely debating perspective, I think you

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<v Speaker 4>have to give it to jd Vance. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's much of a surprise. He is a seasoned He

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<v Speaker 4>was very good with Tim Ryan, he was good tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what he did that threw Tim Waltz off

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<v Speaker 4>a bit was he was very sort of willing to

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<v Speaker 4>reach across the aisle. He was friendly, he was affable,

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<v Speaker 4>he was, you know, talking about being bipartisan, all of

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of things. So anybody and many of us

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<v Speaker 4>thought he might be an attack dog. He was not

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<v Speaker 4>that he so I think when you look at purely

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<v Speaker 4>from debate points, he had a very good night. Tim

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<v Speaker 4>Waltz had some good moments. His talk about healthcare was

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<v Speaker 4>I think one of his best, as was the January sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately for Tim Waltz, those came towards the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the middle end of the debate. You wanted those more

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<v Speaker 4>at the front, but he seemed nervous, and that's understandable.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a big stage for him, biggest he's ever

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<v Speaker 4>been on, and quite frankly, not that much different than

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<v Speaker 4>his debate in Minnesota for the governor's race, where he

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<v Speaker 4>seemed to stumble a bit on words. The school shooter thing,

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<v Speaker 4>the knucklehead common and I think those are what people

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<v Speaker 4>who know him expected. So I don't think it's a surprise,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think it wasn't Tim Waltz's best to

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<v Speaker 4>night or best showing well.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to go now live to the spin room

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<v Speaker 2>to get some reaction in real time from the floor

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. Bloomberg's Amory Hoarder is there now, Amory.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Kaylie, and I'm joined here by

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<v Speaker 5>Senator Katie Britt.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's just get your reaction to tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>I know before you went.

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<v Speaker 5>Into that debate, you were in the spin room talking

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<v Speaker 5>about you think Senator Vance could close the gap. He

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<v Speaker 5>had almost an awkward start to this campaign trail. How

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<v Speaker 5>did you think he performed tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought he was outstanding. I think that was one

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<v Speaker 7>of the best debate performances in American history. I thought

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<v Speaker 7>he was collected, he was on point, and he was

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<v Speaker 7>very direct. But I thought the American people got to

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<v Speaker 7>know JD. Vance to your point. I was asked a

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<v Speaker 7>number of times before this, and I said, I was

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<v Speaker 7>honored to know JD. Not just as a colleague, but

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<v Speaker 7>as a person, as a friend. And when you get

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<v Speaker 7>to know people like he and Usha as people and

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<v Speaker 7>as parents, you get to see their heart, You get

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<v Speaker 7>to see their vision for the country. Tonight he laid

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<v Speaker 7>out a vision and he showed why Donald Trump needs

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<v Speaker 7>to be back in the White House. So I thought

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<v Speaker 7>he did an excellent job. I thought people got an

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity to get to know my friend and got to

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<v Speaker 7>know what I believe in him, and know that he

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<v Speaker 7>is ready to be the vice president and obviously to serve.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think this moves the needle? Though everyone says

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<v Speaker 5>only people pay attention to the top of the ticket,

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<v Speaker 5>does a debate like the running mate move the needle? Look?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think he did a great job, very

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<v Speaker 7>clear in laying out Donald Trump's policies and why we

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<v Speaker 7>want to go back to a period of prosperity, a

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<v Speaker 7>period of a secure border of Latino chaos across the

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<v Speaker 7>globe and the way that we're seeing it today, a

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<v Speaker 7>place where your dollar goes further, where they're at the

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<v Speaker 7>grocery store, at the gas station. And so I think

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<v Speaker 7>he succinctly did that. But what he also did is

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<v Speaker 7>he reached people. I mean, his ability to just have come.

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<v Speaker 7>It felt like you got to know him, you got

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<v Speaker 7>to see his vision, and you felt hopeful for the future.

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<v Speaker 7>I got a text from my ninth grade son that said, Mom, like,

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<v Speaker 7>I like what he's saying, Like this is great stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>Like this is you know, good, good job.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like your ninth grade son should be in bed,

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<v Speaker 5>But I guess what we'll give him this one given

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<v Speaker 5>his mom's on TV also spinning the debate. Can we

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<v Speaker 5>ask you just one final question about what is actually

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<v Speaker 5>going on right now and potentially if there's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be some Congressional action on two things happening right now

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<v Speaker 5>in the United States? Won the hurricane? Will Congress come back?

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<v Speaker 1>Look?

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<v Speaker 7>I know we saw Joe Biden come out and say

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<v Speaker 7>Congress needed to come back, and then we saw his

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<v Speaker 7>press team walk it back. Unfortunately, that's more of the

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<v Speaker 7>same of what we're seeing from this administration. We saw

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<v Speaker 7>Kamala Harris go in and get a briefing, come out

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<v Speaker 7>and not answer any questions. Obviously, we really lack a

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<v Speaker 7>commander in chief and number two in charge that's really

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<v Speaker 7>able to give us direction and can point this country

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<v Speaker 7>in the right direction even in a time of chaos

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<v Speaker 7>like this. I don't think you'll see us come back truly.

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<v Speaker 7>They've obviously released the twenty billion dollars. There are a

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<v Speaker 7>number of items we need to take care of, like

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<v Speaker 7>appropriations bills, amongst other things. So if we do come back,

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<v Speaker 7>we certainly have a lot of work, but unfortunately every

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<v Speaker 7>time we're in session, Chuck Schumer chooses to not put

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<v Speaker 7>bills of meeting on the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Senator Haggerdy has spoke today of Tennessee devastating pictures. He

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<v Speaker 5>said he's getting everything right now from the federal government,

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<v Speaker 5>but if he wasn't, he would like to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm always happy to work, always happy to come back

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<v Speaker 7>and do our job. I am frustrated though, as a

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<v Speaker 7>United States Senator that we lack when you see what

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<v Speaker 7>Chuck Schumer chooses to put on the floor versus what

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<v Speaker 7>he should be putting on the floor, things like the NDAA,

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<v Speaker 7>things like appropriations bills that fund homeland security, amongst other things, NDAA,

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<v Speaker 7>the Farm Bill. There's a ton of work to be done.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ready to do it, but we need some new

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<v Speaker 7>leadership and Republicans. This is why it's so important for

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<v Speaker 7>us to take back the Senate so we can actually

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<v Speaker 7>do the job that people send us up.

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<v Speaker 4>There to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Senaor Katie Britt, thank you so much for your time,

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<v Speaker 5>Kaylee and Joe Senri dri Very. That's his performance this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Emery Hordern in the spin room for us

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<v Speaker 3>as we continue to unpack what we just experienced in

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<v Speaker 3>the vice presidential debate. And we'd really liked to stick

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<v Speaker 3>with our panel here, our signature panel for their clutch analysis,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes Rick Davis, of course, Bloomberg Politics contributor.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go big picture, Rick, your impressions. You sat here

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<v Speaker 3>watching this with us for ninety minutes. Did somebody win

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<v Speaker 3>this debate?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't know if there were winners and losers.

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<v Speaker 6>I think each one of them sort of comported themselves

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<v Speaker 6>in a way that wasn't, you know, particularly special, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, sort of met the needs of their candidates. Really,

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<v Speaker 6>this is all about reinforcing, you know, the standards that

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<v Speaker 6>the candidates are running at. At the top of the ticket,

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<v Speaker 6>I think JD. Vans did a very good job, very

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<v Speaker 6>disciplined job of returning repeatedly to immigration, you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>soft underbelly of the Biden administration, and criticizing almost on

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<v Speaker 6>every issue some form of immigration impact and whether it

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<v Speaker 6>was on housing or the economy, national security. And so

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<v Speaker 6>he came with a plan, he executed his plan. Tim

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<v Speaker 6>Walls was Tim Walls. I mean, he got put on

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<v Speaker 6>this ticket because he was everybody's grandpa and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the football coach showed up tonight, you know, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is clearly what the Harris campaign wants to present. It

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<v Speaker 6>was unpolished, rough on the edges sometimes, but I would

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<v Speaker 6>say delivered a lot of good hits against Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>which was his job, and a very compelling final argument

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<v Speaker 6>on democracy and the twenty twenty elections at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of the debate. So, is anybody gonna, you know, stop

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<v Speaker 6>the momentum that the Harris campaign has right now? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 6>Are they going to augment the Trump campaign and somehow

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<v Speaker 6>probably not. Actually thought both of the candidates today on

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<v Speaker 6>the stage tried to actually get along with one another,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think for the purposes of a political campaign,

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<v Speaker 6>this civility probably neutralized lot of the attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzana will be back

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<v Speaker 2>with us in just a moment right now that we

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<v Speaker 2>want to go back to the spin room floor where

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<v Speaker 2>anriy Horder is joined by the Governor of Illinois, Henry.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Kaylie. And that's right, I'm joined

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<v Speaker 5>by the Governor of Illinois, Dab Pritzker, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just want to get your reaction to how

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<v Speaker 5>you thought Governor Walls did, I know it's someone you're

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<v Speaker 5>very friendly with.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Walls did what Tim Walls does best, which is

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<v Speaker 1>he showed his heart, especially for middle class Americans, for

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<v Speaker 1>everyday Americans. It's what he believes in his heart, right,

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<v Speaker 1>standing up for the issues that matter most at the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen table for most people, making sure that they have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to retire, the ability to send their kids

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<v Speaker 1>to college, right, putting dollars in their pocket with a

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<v Speaker 1>child tax credit, helping them afford to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Tim Walls talked about throughout this debate. He

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<v Speaker 1>also stood up for people's individual freedoms. And then very

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<v Speaker 1>importantly at the end, I think you heard a very

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<v Speaker 1>important message, which is Tim Walls will live up to

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<v Speaker 1>the obligations the job of being vice president, the oath

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<v Speaker 1>that he would take if he became vice president. Where

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<v Speaker 1>his opponent would not even admit that Donald Trump lost

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty election, and he was pressed on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you got to look at the contrast

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<v Speaker 1>between the character of these two people.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think a VP debate, though, can move the needle?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you look at these polls, it's a nice edge.

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<v Speaker 5>This election neck and neck in all of these swing states.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, Wisconsin so close to you, you share sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>a media market with them. Do you think a VP

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<v Speaker 5>debate actually can move some of these voters that are

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<v Speaker 5>waiting on the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that it is so close is

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<v Speaker 1>why this VP debate matters, And what really matters about

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<v Speaker 1>it is, again, are you reaching and talking to everyday Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>working families that are, you know, sometimes suffering from the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges of the world coming on them, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>you heard Tim Wallas talk about what the solutions are

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<v Speaker 1>for those families. You didn't hear anything from JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 1>about how to solve those problems. All he did was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of lie and then stand up for Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>lies over and over again. It's frankly, he's very slick debater, JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance and if you could get sort of sucked in

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<v Speaker 1>by that, But it was Tim Walls who just said

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<v Speaker 1>it the way that everyday Americans talk. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy down the street that you trust to watch your

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<v Speaker 1>kids when you're you know, when you're off doing something

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<v Speaker 1>during the day, or you know the coach that you

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<v Speaker 1>had in college or in high school. That really mattered

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<v Speaker 1>to you and made a difference. That's who Tim Walls

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<v Speaker 1>really is.

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<v Speaker 5>One quick one finally, just on what's going on right

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<v Speaker 5>now with the DOC workers. Do you think the President

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<v Speaker 5>needs to enact TAFT Hartley to get these workers back

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<v Speaker 5>because this is affecting half of US trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what he said and I believe it too, is

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<v Speaker 1>that working men and women have the right to organize

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<v Speaker 1>and if they want to get better pay and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get safer workplaces, they have the right to

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<v Speaker 1>strike if they want. I also believe that the President

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vice President want to bring the parties together

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<v Speaker 1>so that there's a real solution to this. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. That happened with the UAW strike, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen here. But standing up for the rights

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<v Speaker 1>of American workers to get better pay, to argue and

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<v Speaker 1>have the power to collectively bargain for a shafer workplace,

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<v Speaker 1>those are things that really matter to this administration, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see a solution to this problem.

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<v Speaker 5>Governor, thank you so much for your time this even

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<v Speaker 5>thank you Kaylee Joe. Of course that was Governor J. B.

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<v Speaker 5>Pritzker of Illinois and Marie.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. Talking to one of many surrogates

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<v Speaker 3>gathered in the spin room tonight. It's been pretty busy

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<v Speaker 3>with both campaigns trying to frame the conversation that just

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the benefit of their candidates. Of course, as

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<v Speaker 3>we reassemble our political panel, Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano

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<v Speaker 3>or with us coming off of the only vice presidential

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<v Speaker 3>debate that we're going to get here, Tim Walls had

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of odd moments, at least different. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we can admit for a a debate like this, referring

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<v Speaker 3>to himself as a knucklehead, I think you recalled genie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this line about being friends with school shooters,

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<v Speaker 3>which Frank Luntz already on Twitter this evening says, will

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<v Speaker 3>be the most memorable line from this debate is that

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<v Speaker 3>our takeaway.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll be probably the takeaway that gets a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the social media coverage. I hope people also focus on

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<v Speaker 4>some of the other things Tim Waltz had to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one, when he said president's words matter. Throughout this debate,

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<v Speaker 4>we've been seeing Donald Trump live truth. I guess we

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<v Speaker 4>would call it. People should take a look at what

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<v Speaker 4>he is saying and look at what he's been saying

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<v Speaker 4>all day and for the last week, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>for the last year. He also pinned jd Vance down

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<v Speaker 4>on the question of did Donald Trump lose the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty election. Jd Vance nosey lost, couldn't say it. He

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<v Speaker 4>so he had some important moments there where he reminded us,

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<v Speaker 4>this is Tim Waltz, and this is not really quite

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<v Speaker 4>frankly about jd Vance. This is about the two people

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<v Speaker 4>at the top of the ticket, and it is a

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<v Speaker 4>choice between those two that people have to make. So

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<v Speaker 4>from that perspective, he was able to make the case

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<v Speaker 4>in a different vernacular. For sure, words we've probably never

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<v Speaker 4>heard on the debate stage. But I think maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>people look beyond some of that, they're going to see

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<v Speaker 4>what he said does really have an impact on this race.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as we consider what was said there. Jade Vance

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<v Speaker 2>in the past has said that he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead of Donald Trump in saying things about his policies,

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<v Speaker 2>including on the issue of abortion and whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump would veto a federal ban. Jd Vance was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that during the debate. Donald Trump, in his

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<v Speaker 2>life play by play on True Social then said everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knows I would not support a federal abortion ban under

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<v Speaker 2>any circumstances, and would in fact veto it, the first

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<v Speaker 2>time we have heard him commit to a veto Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder, as Jade Vance was on that stage

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Republicans need to gain the trust of voters

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<v Speaker 2>who do not trust them on this issue, is it

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<v Speaker 2>too late for Donald Trump to definitively say something it

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<v Speaker 2>for it to matter.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think this all resonates around the massive gender

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<v Speaker 6>gap that exists in the selection. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>on both sides, right there's the largest female gender gap

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<v Speaker 6>to the advantage of Harris and a large male gender

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<v Speaker 6>gap that is the advantage of Donald Trump. And clearly

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump is super sensitive on this issue because he's

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<v Speaker 6>been all over the map on it. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 6>the advisors are sitting there right now trying to talk

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<v Speaker 6>through how do we clean up you know, the sort

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<v Speaker 6>of confusion that's been created, because even jd Vance was inarticulate,

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<v Speaker 6>I would say, into what is he actually endorsed, because

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the easy answer is, oh, well, we're just

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<v Speaker 6>going to let states deal with it. But then criticize

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<v Speaker 6>the governor Waltz's policies in the state. Well, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>letting states deal with it, then Minnesota to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to do whatever they want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Point out that jd Vance during the debate said he

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<v Speaker 2>never supported a federal abortion ban, but he did in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two say he would like abortion to be

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<v Speaker 2>illegal nationally.

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<v Speaker 7>No, if you have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, they both have their moments here. Interesting to hear

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty come up. Toward the end of this debate

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Walls asks about Trump. Did he lose the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty election. I'm focused on the future, said jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Walls called that a damning non answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>It's absolutely right? And you know, I think both of

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<v Speaker 4>them did this repeatedly. They tried to drive a division

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<v Speaker 4>of a wedge, if you will, between their candidate at

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<v Speaker 4>the top of the ticket. And of course jd Vance

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to stand up there and say he disagrees

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<v Speaker 4>with Donald Trump. And yet the reality is is we

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<v Speaker 4>all have to think about the fact that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 4>to this moment still claims he won that election and

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<v Speaker 4>jd Vance stands there knowing that he lost and cannot

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<v Speaker 4>say it. And so that just underscores where we are

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<v Speaker 4>in this race. It's a really important one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well certainly, and this may be the only moments like

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<v Speaker 2>this of to sharing a debate stage we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get over the next five weeks. With this performance from

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<v Speaker 2>jd Vance after the initial Donald Trump Kamala Harris debate,

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<v Speaker 2>in which she was widely seen as winning, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's more likely or less likely now that they

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<v Speaker 2>agree to a second presidential debate before November?

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<v Speaker 6>For yeah, I really don't think. I mean jd Vance

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<v Speaker 6>did a fine job, was very disciplined, as we've said,

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<v Speaker 6>but I don't think it has any impact on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump is afraid of getting on the stage. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>with Kamala Harris, he got man handled literally in the

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<v Speaker 6>debate that he had with her. The staff don't want

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<v Speaker 6>him back on a stage. They see that as a

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<v Speaker 6>risk that they're unwilling to take, and so I really

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<v Speaker 6>don't think this changes anything in that construct. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think you're right, Kayleie. I think we've seen the last

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<v Speaker 6>debate of this election cycle, and I would say, at best,

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<v Speaker 6>slight advantage for Advance, but really no harm, no foul

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<v Speaker 6>to either of the candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>On the top of the tickets, we're out of time here.

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<v Speaker 3>But does Donald Trump feel better about his pick tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he probably does, and Maga probably likes him a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit better. So yeah, maybe his numbers even improve

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit, but not enough to move the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>We've experienced another one with Rick and Genie many thanks

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<v Speaker 3>to our signature panel, Rick Davis Genie Shanzano as part

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<v Speaker 3>of our special coverage of the vice presidential debate on

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<v Speaker 3>CBS simulcast here on Bloomberg TV and Radio. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew alongside Kaylee Lions. We'll be back from Washington. Kayley,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how we'll pull that off. At noontime tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll meet you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, sounds good. In the meantime, have a good evening.

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