WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2019 NFL MegaPod Week 2 Preview 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:13.280 Check it out. Man down Now Thursday morning, September twelve nine. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:17.479 Team them Beating the Book Podcast Megapod Week two in 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.360 the National Football League. It's Gil Alexander and in case 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.560 you missed it last week, the new crew on my 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.840 right the conciliary to Derrek Stevens over at Circuits Sports. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.480 He's the vice president of operations there and knows all 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.440 things about the circum Million contest, among other things. It's 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.040 our friend Mike Palm. Thank you Mike for being here, sir. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.159 It's an honor and a pleasure to join you, and 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.960 especially Todd wishne Todd Wishnev, who is our other guest 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.760 on the left here. He's the star, one of the 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.720 stars of Showtime's docuseries Action. You may hear him on 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.760 Visa as well as Mike. Just said, Todd Wishnev. Hello Todd, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.920 Hi guys. So let me just say this about last week. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.960 A couple of things. One, it was the highest rated 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.760 Week one megapod of all times, so kudos to you. Two. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.000 This will be the real test right week two. See 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.600 if they continue to listen to you guys after week one. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.119 I'm sure they will. Uh. The other thing is Mike, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.319 you were accused of breathing heavily last week. You were 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.360 not breathing heavily. It was just where apparently the mike 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.120 was being held, correct, I think. So there's some background 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.840 noise in the office with running water in the pipes 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.080 and and that. So we moved to a different office. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.560 So hopefully that corrects that and nobody thinks I'm a pervert. Alright, Well, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.000 thank god for that. And Todd is not in l A, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.039 so we can actually hear everything that Todd has to 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.959 say as opposed to the first five minutes last week. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.640 All right, so let's do this. Let us begin. First 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.959 of all, let's review how our picks went last week. Uh, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.000 not so much, although Todd, you were two in one 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.000 in your best bets and you also hit your teaser, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.679 did you not? All right? And Mike and I not 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.640 as lucky, Uh not as not as good because and 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.680 the reason I use the word lucky, we were one 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.360 and two in our best bets and we both missed 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.240 our teaser, and much of that was because the Eagles 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.040 and the Lions completely destroyed us and the Lions collapse. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.720 I'm still not sure that actually happened, but but we 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.440 did get the Thursday game right with the under. So 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.920 that's the saving grace from week one. I knew you'd 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.519 throw that in there, Todd Judges. Does that count, Todd 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.639 said part of the officials. No, that's just why I left. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.880 That will not count. Will not count before we get 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.720 into this week, because we want to get our thoughts 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.760 on Thursday night that we're getting into our best bets. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.560 We'll also do the teaser of the week, which I 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.800 actually gave out on a numbers game this morning. I 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.200 do want to get a circu million update the Circus 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.280 Sports a million full season contest five picks against the spread? 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.120 How many total participants were there in the end, and 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.639 how many of those went five and oh? Mike, So 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.600 we ended up with one thousand, eight hundred and seventy 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:47.760 five participants because everything over fift hundred went back into 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.440 the quarterly winners or the best score each month. Each month, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.040 including this month of September, is worth one hundred forty 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.480 three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars. Sixteen cards with 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.480 five even oh. Sixteen entries went five and oh. And 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.640 here's the more shocking thing, twenty three entries did not 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:11.120 submit their picks Jesus, including one of our friends, Anthony Curtis. Right, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.480 he admitted that he was one of them. He had 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.480 three of the twenty three that didn't turn him in. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.480 He was busy on his book and he forgot about 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.040 the deadline and he called his partner up, said what 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.520 do you like in these games? And he said, well, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.000 what did you submit? And he said, well, I'm just 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.600 looking at him now, and the guy said, hey, it's 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.079 three thirty. What are you talking about? And so they're 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:34.600 they're combined. So yeah, and combined they start out with 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.240 Owen fives across the board. Uh, and say what those 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.440 quarterly prizes were again, the four week sprint in the 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.839 five week at the end of the year. Yeah, one 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:48.440 hundred forty three thousand, seven and fifty dollars. Wow, all right, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.680 didn't go so well for me because of the Lions 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.600 and the Eagles. So I'm not gonna win that first quarterly. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.720 I'm just gonna tell you that I'll take another. And 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.120 in your favorite BELICHICKI and uh voice, it's on to 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.880 October on It's right, that's right. Uh, we're just here 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.960 to We're gonna be on October obviously. Antonio Brown news 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.040 great texts that we don't necessarily have to repeat, but 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.200 I'd love to at some point. Uh. We think he's 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.240 playing for the Patriots this weekend as far as we know. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.320 Me and Blanka laugh about this. The other big news 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.560 was this morning Sam Donald Adam Gaze telling everybody, and 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.320 we were talking about this on a Numbers Game Live 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.480 that Adam Gaye telling everybody. Sam Donald's got mono mono nucleosis. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.200 I had that in college that destroys you, like you 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.000 have no energy. Um, And so he's gone for this 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.280 Monday night against the Browns. We saw that game, which 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.239 was at two and a half being taken off the board. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.520 Then it came back in Vegas. Shout out to you 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.920 guys in the West Gate, Mike. It came out at 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.560 six and a half at the West Gate, which I 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.840 thought was too much of a swing. You guys came 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.400 out at five and a half. Then offshore it came 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.480 out four and a half once they put it back up, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.280 and then that quickly moved back to six. Where are 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.520 you now, Yeah, we moved from we took some bets 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.440 at five and a half and where it's six as well, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.880 and it's six pretty much everywhere on that game. Right now, Okay, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.440 let's start with a Thursday night game thoughts, Todd. Since 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.440 we haven't heard from you, you're awfully quiet, let us 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.280 begin with any thoughts. Carolina Panthers seven point favorites tonight 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.040 hosting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, you were 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.800 just talking about the circum million. The circum million lines 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.080 just came out and they have six and a half 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.719 for the on the Circle contest for the Brown Jets. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.320 So just an interesting point. Now, as far as Tampa 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:39.039 Bay and Carolina, Uh here's the thing. Carolina to me, 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.920 we talked about this yesterday on a Numbers game. Carolina 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.240 to me gave away fourteen points in the early part 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.120 of that game. In that Rams game, they could easily 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.480 won that game. Uh So, I kind of liked them. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.760 The only problem is I don't like it all the 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.120 way up here at seven points, it just seems too 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.000 much for a division old game. Tampa Bay had a 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.480 game they could have won as well. Jamis through to 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.480 two pick sixes. I don't see him throwing two pick 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.480 six is the week after he just threw two. He's 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.320 probably gonna be a lot more cautious you'll probably be 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.560 a lower type scoring game, So I don't really want 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.080 any part of this game. Mike, your thoughts on this 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:22.520 one tonight? Seven is a tough number. Uh. I leaned 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.200 Panthers here. I agree with Todd. I had my biggest 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.600 play on Sunday was actually the total in that Rams 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.800 that Rams first half against Carolina, so I watched it 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.479 very intently. I thought there was a bad call Gil 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.680 on that turnover that was it was a bad at 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.960 ball that made it look like a lateral. I don't 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.840 know how they didn't look at that and reverse that, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.719 but that gave the Rams first and goal. Really changed 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.120 the complexion of that game. I thought Carolina played right 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.159 with them. Um. I was concerned with Jamis's performance again 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.560 with Tampa Bay even bringing Bruce arians and he just 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.920 can't seem to correct his turnover issues and bone headed plays. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.000 I think the Panthers are the side here. But as 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.320 Todd said, at seven, it's a tough play because now 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.720 you have to win by two scores. If you were 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.760 getting able to get it earlier at six or six 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.400 and a half, probably a little bit of a lead. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.360 But it's a pass for me tonight. Yeah, I will 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.400 tell you that it's a pass on the number. For me, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.240 I will be using Carolina in my teaser of the week, though, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.880 portent of things to come and to your points about 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.800 everything that you guys just said. Jameis Winston one touchdown, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.240 three picks, two of which were returned to the house 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.360 last week in the Buccaneers loss to the Niners. Forty 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.320 Niners had two interceptions all of last year picked off 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.560 Jamis three times again two to the house. Jamis gonna Jamis, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.000 as they like to say. And then Carolina and they're 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.119 loss to the Rams. And Todd was able to watch 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.880 this game twice. On the shortcut. Christian McCaffrey fills up 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.000 a box score like nobody else. Nineteen carries dwenty eight yards, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.560 two touchdowns, ten receptions eighty one yards on top of that. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.400 But Cam Newton there is an interesting thing about him. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.400 I mean, the one sort of pause that it gives 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.360 me the only reason I'm playing this Carol on the 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.040 teas as opposed to against the spread. Cam Newton costly 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.200 backward pass that resulted in fumbled deep in Carolina territory 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.520 led to a Rams touchdown. Also had a pick with 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.560 five five left in the game that was, and he 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.840 was held by the way to a career low minus 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.559 two yards rushing career low, meaning he's probably not looking 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.800 to run as much. That was always part of his 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.520 his weaponry and rams linebacker Corey Littleton. I was mentioning 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.320 this morning and yesterday on the Numbers game. Interesting quote. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.840 Cam is a readable guy. Littleton had fourteen tackles, a 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.520 pick in a fumble recovery. He gave me an opportunity 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.720 and I read it perfectly. And it should be noted 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.199 that Newton did not complete a pass of longer than 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.800 seventeen yards in that game, but he said he didn't 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.600 even think about his surgically repaired shoulder during the game. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.320 Simply took with the defense gave him. So it really 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.040 comes down to do you believe Cam on that or not. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.000 But I will not take Carolina on the number. I 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.199 will take Carolina in a tease. With the teaser coming up, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.320 all right, let us begin with the best bets of 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.800 the week. Can start with you, Mr Palm, Sir, what 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.600 do you got? What's your number? One? I'm gonna go 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.320 against your best bet last week and I'm gonna take 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.480 San Francisco in the second straight road game, catching two 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.880 at Cincinnati. I was very impressed with the retooled forty 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.400 Niners defense last week against the said Buccaneers that we 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.840 discussed from the Thursday night game. I thought they totally 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.079 dominated that game. Yes, they did have two picks six is, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.719 but think about this. You know, firstco had two turners 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.360 of their own and they have three touchdowns called back 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.160 by penalty in that game. I think Kittle is so 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.480 effective and such a safety net for Garoppolo and they 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.680 go on the road. Cincinnati was competitive in Seattle, but 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.640 remember that Fluke touchdown before the half on that on 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.000 that Hail Mary, and then they really did not move 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.200 the ball much in the second half, where they were 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.120 much more successful in the first half. I think San 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.240 Francisco was the better side here, and you're gonna catch 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.800 a couple of points, so I'll make them my top play. Ye. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.040 It's an interesting line because it's sort of similar San 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.840 Francisco's on the road against the non division opponent was 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.439 right around to pick him last week. Movie one point 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.840 either way. Here a consensus on this right now, as 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.880 you just mentioned, let's just get a consensus number. Is 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.680 San Francisco plus two? Uh? So you're on the Niners. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.240 By the way, just to clarify what Mike said, I 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.640 was on the Bengals as my number one best bet 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.640 on the megapod last week. I did have the Niners 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.640 in circa todd your best bet of the week, my 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.400 best bet of the week. All depends on whether I'm 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.120 gonna get two and a half or three in this 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.480 Bears game. Are we counting the Bears this two and 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.600 a half consensus right now? Two and a half? Yes, okay, 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.880 then I would like the Chicago Bears. And I'm gonna 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.360 say you're gonna have a hired at take. That's my 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.439 Chicago accident. You're gonna have a hired at take if 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.120 you have the Denver Broncos this week. And here's why 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.840 the Chicago Bears held Mr Aaron Rodgers. You may have 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.960 heard of him all state commercials. He was only able 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.920 to get ten points against them in a game where 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.679 their offense did nothing for them. Which makes it even 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.160 harder for defense in the NFL to stop somebody as 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.720 good as Aaron Rodgers. When your offense isn't even doing 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.959 anything for you, and they held him to only ten points, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.400 I believe they can hold Denver to somewhere between minus 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.600 two and minus five points during this game. If it 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.760 was possible to get minus points in an NFL game, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.040 they'd be able to do it. Because Joe Flacco's gonna 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.360 get head porn off. I don't want to hear about 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.840 the altitude. I don't want to hear about the elevation 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.880 in September. I don't want to hear about Denver nonsense. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.160 It's not a good football team. Vic Fangio is going 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:29.080 to be a disaster. Give me the Chicago Bears. The Bears, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.800 thank you, thank you for cleaning up altitude and correcting that. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.360 Television appreciate that. And Vic Fangio, can we just say 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.920 I compared him on a numbers game at Visa, and 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.760 I said, he's like every middle American or middle aged 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.120 man in a museum walking around with the Fannie pack 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.400 with his hands clenched behind his back, walking slowly from 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.360 painting to painting. It just feels like he is it 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.640 over his head. Denver was down fifteen in the fourth 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.520 quarter driving against the Raiders and decided to kick a 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.160 field goal to go down twelve instead of obviously going 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.920 for touchdown, because what's the point of getting down twelve. Yeah, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.800 that was fun. That was very fun. Uh. So all 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.040 all Well said, I understand all that. By the way, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.240 about your game, Mike, does it give you pause. I'm 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.079 just gonna try to play Devil's advocate on the Niners. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.080 I like the Niners too. I was on him last week. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.720 Eleven penalties ninety seven yards. They were plagued by penalties 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.240 in the preseason. They had a lot of penalties last year. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.320 They got to clean that up eventually, don't they. Seat 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.000 It'll cost him at some point because it's just too slow. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.320 That game was almost unwatchable in Tampa Bay. But it 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.640 seemed like there was a two out of every three 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.440 place had a penalty. Uh to your point, uh, Gill, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.800 that you made about Fangio and the guy from the 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:47.160 Midwest with the Fannie pack, uh. Brent said, on my guys, uh, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.440 you know, because obviously he called the game in Oakland 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.559 that it was quite a scene. You know, this is 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.280 Fangio's first time being on the sideline and first time 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.839 as a head coach. Just trying to get him hooked 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.920 up with all the equipment. It took like six or 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.480 seven minutes. They couldn't get the belt on him, and 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.000 he said he felt very badly for him, terrible. I 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:11.720 didn't know that. Wow, that's a great detail. Um My, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.199 my best bet of the week. And I just kind 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.320 of landed on this this morning. I don't know, I 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:17.760 just sort of looked at it and I was like, 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.760 why am I not playing? This is my best bet. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.640 I'm taking the Pittsburgh Steelers against the Seattle Seahawks. I'm 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.200 curious how you guys feel about this. Pittsburgh right now, 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.480 there are four point favorites consensus. You might be able 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.960 to find three and a half out there, but they 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:35.040 are consensus four point favorites at home against the Seattle Seahawks. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.520 Seattle did exactly what I thought they would last week 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.160 in that game against the Bengals. I just don't think 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.920 they have enough offense to get away from teams, certainly 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.240 not to cover a nine point spread what it was 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.000 last week against the Bengals. And the Steelers couldn't have 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.480 looked worse against the New England Patriots. They got absolutely 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.280 beat down thirty three to three. Mike Tomlin had a 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.400 Vic Fangio moment ten and seventeen left in the third quarter. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.240 They were down twenty to nothing, Tomlin says, you know, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.440 fourth and one, here at the at the goal at 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.560 the one yard line, let's kick a field goal. You know, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.640 why not. I'll make it twenty two three we won't 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.960 get shut out, and then fourth place for scribbage later, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.000 Brady to the door, set fifty eight yards Katie bart 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.800 the door. So you know, the Steelers had five full 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.240 possessions in the first half, and they punted on four 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.200 of them. I think they went three and out three 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.400 times as well. I just think they couldn't look worse. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.360 I don't think they're that bad of a football team. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.680 I think they get it together against the Seattle team that, 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.760 even at home where they're supposed to be super awesome, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.080 had to eke it out against the Bengal squad that 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.400 I don't think it's really gonna scare anybody as this 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.080 season progresses. I think Pittsburgh shows that they are the 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.200 team I thought they were before that game against New England. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.400 I'll take the Steelers. I'll give the four points. I felt, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.360 and watching the opening of a Numbers game this morning, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.040 that that's where you were gonna land and you sort 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.880 of talk to yourself into it right on the air. Yes, um, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 I'm high on the I was high on the Steelers 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.640 before the season, and I and I just said, I 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.880 think I'm throwing out Game one. I just have to 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.840 throw it out. It's very hard. That game is supposed 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.160 to really be played Thursday night with the defending Super 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.760 Bowl champion opening at home, and they didn't do it 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.800 this year. They moved into Sunday night. That's a very 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.400 tough atmosphere anytime you go in and play the defending 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.280 Super Bowl champion and their home opener. They sort of 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.040 got overwhelmed. And so I'm I'm striking that, and uh, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.920 I agree with your play guilt. You know, before the 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.360 Antonio Brown allegations came out, yesterday was it? Yesterday? Was 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.920 the day before? I can't even remember anymore. So it happened, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.360 so yeah, Tuesday. So on on Tuesday morning before they 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.080 came out, I had Michael Lombardi and will be on 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.280 the Megapod by the way, this year several times, but 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.280 I had Michael Lombardi on the show Visa's own Michael Lombardi, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.880 and I asked, Hey, let's say we lived in a 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.000 bizarro world where you couldn't sign Antonio Brown before the 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:53.080 weekend and let's say the Steelers, you know, got Let's 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.280 say the Patriots crushed the Steelers as they did thirty 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.040 three to three with their fleet of wide receivers. And 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.240 then Tuesday morning I asked him, I go, no, owing 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.360 that would they still if signing became open today? Would 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.000 they still signed Antonio Brown? Given that they did so 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.800 well and they had to make the calculus? Do we 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.960 really want this this annoyance? And he said, oh, yeah, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.160 they've been targeting him the whole time, They'd still sign him. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:19.000 And then twenty four hours later, after the sexual misconduct 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.840 allegations came out, I sort of asked openly, now, what 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.400 would Lombardi say? Would they really want this distracted after that? 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.200 And I have to think at that point they probably 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.240 wouldn't if they were given truth syrium. But right now 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.320 he's playing. I don't know what's going to happen between 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.040 now and Sunday. I have no guests on that. If 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.840 you had to guess, Todd, do you think he makes 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.160 it to this weekend? I don't think he's gonna play 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.080 this weekend, But I don't know. You know, it's so 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.880 hard to figure this nonsense out. It just gets aggravating. Um, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.840 I mean, I don't think he should play this weekend. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.320 I first of all, I don't even think she should 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.720 be on the Patriots in the first place. The whole 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.400 thing stinks. And where's David Stern when we need him 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.760 to avoid a trade? He should void like he did 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.840 with the Chris Paul trade. You know, we need some 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.120 type of you know, commissioner in here to to not 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.679 allow guys to just pick their own teams. It's just 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.760 not fair. So from the beginning, I don't think this 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.320 was fair. Now, whether he's gonna play on Sunday, you know, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.600 I don't even know. But I did want to say 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.320 something about the Steelers. Um, he's The Steelers scare me 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.680 a little bit. As you know, I'm a big Pittsburgh 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.720 Steelers fan. I will bet against them if I think 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.320 they're no good. Last week I didn't trust them. They 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.800 never beat the Patriots. Um, you know, I have a 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.560 feeling the Steelers. Maybe on the downside, I know everyone 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.480 was was so big on the Steelers this year. Oh 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.400 you know, Ben wants to prove he can do with 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.080 let without Levy, on without Antonio, blah blah blah. But 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.919 to get beat down like that. I know the Patriots 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.600 defense is good, but three points and you know, when 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.359 did we ever say Judy Smith Schuster was a number one? 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.959 He may not be. So I really want to see 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.560 what we get out of Pittsburgh this week. This will 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.560 be a very interesting game. Yeah, it should be noted 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.440 the Antonio Brown thing has nothing to do with the 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.320 Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously, but it was just sort of a 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.320 parenthetical side having to do with the Patriots. Who on 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.040 guessing lines with Chrissy for those who listen to that 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.720 show this week, that was one of my four word 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.680 you know, I guess seventeen and a half sight unseen 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.200 and he said, no, it's sixteen and a half. And 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.960 I said, give me, Patriots, like, give it to me, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.480 give it to me right now. And he said he 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.280 thought sharp betters would would take the Dolphins at sixteen 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.160 and a half. And I said, well, if they're doing that, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.600 that's just muscle memory and that's too cool for school. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.639 And sure enough, the line not only came to me 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.560 at seventeen and a half, but it's going through me 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.800 it's at nineteen. So we'll see if that is among 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.680 our best bets from the crew today. We shall see 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.920 number two. Best bet, Mr Palm, What do you got? 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.520 I have a question before number two? Please? What do 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.760 you do on Sunday night? You go into a sensory 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.320 deprivation chamber, so you have no way of knowing what 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.600 the numbers are. Exactly. What I do? I get off 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.320 Twitter this. I've been doing this for years. I completely 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.399 get off Twitter. So what I do was I go 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.800 into I put get all my notes for guessing lines. 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.920 Because I have all these random stats that I give. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.399 It's pretty pretty thorough, and so I go into the 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.000 box scores and the recaps of every single game, and 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.640 so I stay away from actually looking at the line. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.200 I go to sleep, I wake up in the morning, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.000 I go to work, and then I just guess. Sometimes 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.080 I'm embarrassed by my guesses. Sometimes not so much. That's 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.119 interesting because I was I was listening Monday morning, and 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.520 I thought, well, he's guessing lines that were out. I 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.240 don't get it. So thank you for clarifying. Yeah, you 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.720