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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts.

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Speaker 2: Giants, get my Giants, give me some jobs.

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Speaker 3: Part of the Giants Podcast Network's Roll.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Giants Totle podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 4: the official bank of the New York Giants. John Schmulk

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Speaker 4: with you getting ready for the Giants in forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers on Thursday Night Football. This is our usual day

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Speaker 4: before the game podcast. We're gonna have Bob Popp with

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Speaker 4: head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. Lance Meadow breaks

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Speaker 4: everything down in terms of the forty nine ers with

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Speaker 4: Cam Inman, he covers the forty nine ers for the

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Speaker 4: San Jose Mercury News. And then we're gonna lead off

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Speaker 4: with my conversation with Giants rookie wide receiver Jalen Hyatt.

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Speaker 3: We had a good talk, a fun chat.

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Speaker 4: He had those two big deep balls that kind of

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Speaker 4: got the offense going against the Cardinals in that historic

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Speaker 4: comeback win for the Giants in Week two to get

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Speaker 4: their record to one and one. Here's my conversation with Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Now we joined by Giants rookie wide receiver Jalen Hyatt

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Speaker 4: and Jalen. I guess I'll start there, still feel like

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Speaker 4: a rookie two games inter anfol career.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen learned a lot so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I definitely sometimes feel uh like a

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Speaker 5: rookie because this is my first uh like West Coast

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Speaker 5: trip for me, only that first you know turn around

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Speaker 5: to you know, a quick game on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: So I'm still.

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Speaker 5: Learning, learning the you know, the vibe around here, you know,

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Speaker 5: just leaning, leaning, leaning on the you know leaders in here.

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Speaker 6: But everything's gonna smooth so far.

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Speaker 4: We're all recording this in tepe a day after the

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Speaker 4: Giants had the historic come back against the Cardinals. What

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Speaker 4: was it like experiencing that first half in the second half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it just shows about our

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Speaker 5: passion and it starts with the leaders in that room,

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Speaker 5: you know, DJ, uh, just everybody who contribute. You know,

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Speaker 5: I had a big part in that game, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we all just trusted and leaning on DJ and leaning

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Speaker 5: on coach Caf and uh, they bought it, you know,

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Speaker 5: call the plays and we just went out and execute

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Speaker 5: the second half.

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Speaker 4: What was the message that Coach Dable gave you guys

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Speaker 4: at halftime? He used the word stern, and I was

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Speaker 4: wondering what it was like from a player perspective.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, Uh, I really think we just clicked

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Speaker 5: in that second half. And you know, coaches can say anything,

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Speaker 5: you know, as far as half have a halftime speech,

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Speaker 5: but man, we just clicked in that second half. I

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Speaker 5: felt like time we went out there, you know, we

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Speaker 5: had a different juice and it's like we forgot that

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Speaker 5: we were down.

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Speaker 6: And I think that was the difference for us.

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Speaker 5: We started believing in ourselves and you know when we

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Speaker 5: did that, we can we executed it.

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Speaker 4: Did you find that coming out of the locker room

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Speaker 4: at halftime there was a change in attitude in terms

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Speaker 4: of how the team approached the game in the second.

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Speaker 5: Half, Yeah, definitely, But definitely attitude and not only that,

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Speaker 5: I think the energy was there too. I mean we

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Speaker 5: were down and we came you know, when we came

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Speaker 5: back out the first after the second half, I mean

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Speaker 5: we were ready to go. We wanted the ball, we

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Speaker 5: wanted to score a time we got the ball and

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Speaker 5: you know, I'll give it a DJ for trusting to

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Speaker 5: me and you know, throwing that ball and we executed.

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Speaker 4: Was there a concerted effort made to get the ball

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Speaker 4: down the field a little bit more. Is that something

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Speaker 4: you guys talked about it they have to try to

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Speaker 4: make some more big plays. You guys had eight plays

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Speaker 4: the second half of that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, one of our things that

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Speaker 5: we need more supposed to plays. We we wouldn't getting

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Speaker 5: the ball downfield. You know, the running game was kind

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Speaker 5: open nose, you gotta throw the you know, supposed to plays,

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Speaker 5: did that, that's when everything started flowing for us. So

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Speaker 5: just credit to you know, what we did to have time.

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Speaker 3: Take us through those two plays.

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Speaker 4: You had your the fifty nine yard to start it

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Speaker 4: kind of sparked everything, and then you had the thirty

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Speaker 4: hat you got it done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we had it in the game plan

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Speaker 5: DJ was gonna throw it, and I at that point

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Speaker 5: in my head, I'm just thinking, Okay, I need to

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Speaker 5: just to get the spark going, because when it is

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Speaker 6: And I think once.

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Speaker 5: We did that, the whole offense started executing, and that's

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Speaker 6: And once we had our confidence, we were we were rolling.

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Speaker 4: Was there a sense that that play did kind of

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Speaker 6: I think it did. I think it did just from

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Speaker 5: Just I think right after that play, we just started

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Speaker 5: connecting and the whole offense started connecting, just like how

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Speaker 5: we did in training camp. So, like you know, we

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Speaker 5: of everything. So just proud of the team, proud of

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Speaker 5: you know, the leaders in that room, prod of the offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So let's let's look ahead a little bit now

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Speaker 4: and you talk about making some of those big plays jailing,

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Speaker 4: how much credit goes to the offensive line because they

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Speaker 4: corner right that that that is not a three step drop,

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Speaker 4: That is not a quick route. They got a lot

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Speaker 4: of heat in week one. How good were they in

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean just I credited them, all of them, and

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Speaker 5: only that one of my best friends on there, John Michael.

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Speaker 6: You know, rookie, rookie proud of what he has.

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Speaker 5: Done is being a center, proud of what he has

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Speaker 6: But just proud of proud of everybody that you.

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Speaker 5: Know, what they did in the old line, how today

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Speaker 5: execute it. So we just got to keep going. I

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Speaker 5: I think we kind of get the momentum, so you know,

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Speaker 5: next game and we just need more games and just

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Speaker 5: to get more comfortable out there and just do what

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Speaker 5: we know what we can do.

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Speaker 4: It is a different matchup, different opponent, But how much

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Speaker 4: of this can you carry over to Thursday night on

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Speaker 4: a short week in San Francisco?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think it just goes back to,

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Speaker 5: you know, just relying on us, on us, and relying that.

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Speaker 6: We know what we can do.

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Speaker 5: You know, we have a we have a good team,

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Speaker 5: we have a great offense, we have a great offensive scheme,

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Speaker 5: we have a great quarterback, and and when you have

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Speaker 5: all those factors, we can be as good as we

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Speaker 6: And we just gotta believe in ourselves.

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Speaker 5: I think that's that's what we did in that second half,

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Speaker 5: and we went out there and you know, believe in

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking Monday.

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Speaker 4: I know you haven't done a ton of work on

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers yet, but what is it about

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, defense that gets after the ball, run sideline,

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Speaker 5: great linebackers. They have a long, speedy SEC secondary that's tall, big, rangey.

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Speaker 5: So for us, I think we just need to just

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Speaker 5: go back to the basics and do what we know

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Speaker 5: we can do. You know, play fast with them, you know,

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Speaker 5: don't make so many mistakes on us, you know, and

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Speaker 5: just go out there and play and play Giants football

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Speaker 5: that we know how to play, and I think we

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Speaker 4: We need to be a couple of questions about the

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Speaker 4: year before we say goodbye. What do you think about

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Speaker 4: the way they're using in the role they've kind of

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Speaker 4: Week two against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Davis told me this is the time

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Speaker 5: I got drafted. He told me he was always gonna,

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Speaker 5: you know, leave me up into into the game plan,

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Speaker 5: lead me up into the season. It's a long season,

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Speaker 5: you know, he told me about how you know, rookies

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Speaker 6: You know, you go from Combine to Pro Dade to Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Me here in training camp and you know you're ready

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Speaker 5: to go, you know, not really a season off or

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Speaker 5: Daves is doing. I believe in his game plan for me.

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Speaker 5: I believe in everything that he has gone for me. Personally.

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Speaker 5: He's a great coach man. I love him and I

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Speaker 5: respect him, and I feel like we're we're just starting.

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Speaker 5: We're just starting now, you know, in the futures what

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Speaker 5: we're ahead.

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Speaker 3: For for every rookie, there's a lot to learn.

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Speaker 4: What's your comfort level on the offense and just being

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Speaker 4: able to execute everything the coaching staff is asking of.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's getting there. It's definitely getting there. Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, I spent a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 6: Come. You know, we have a we have a big,

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Speaker 5: So uh, you know, at first it was it was

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Speaker 5: it was a lot, but I'm just starting to get

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Speaker 5: the you know, role for it. Because I play all

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Speaker 5: three positions, I'm moving around a lot. So I'm very

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Speaker 5: comfortable with it though, very comfortable. And DJ made it

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Speaker 5: easier for me. You know, we used to work in

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Speaker 5: the off season. Uh, even when everybody was off, you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, he stayed up here and we were working out.

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Speaker 5: So you know, just credit to him, credit to you know,

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Speaker 5: the coaches making it easier for me for the game plan.

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Speaker 6: But I feel very comfortable.

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Speaker 4: Was there a moment in the summer Obviously you had

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Speaker 4: a ton of experience in college. You showed you could

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Speaker 4: run by people, you could make big plays. Was there

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Speaker 4: a moment, either maybe in the scrimmage or a preseason

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Speaker 4: you know what, I can run by NFL players too,

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Speaker 4: I can do this at a high level.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing for me was I, Y,

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Speaker 5: I just believe in myself. I you know, my sophomore

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Speaker 3: Jail Good stuff Man. Best luck on Thursday against San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: Quick turnaround heading into Thursday night football, as the Niners

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Speaker 9: Everything's great.

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Speaker 10: You know they've we've been on the road back to

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Speaker 10: After a really impressive win in Pittsburgh and then Sunday's

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Speaker 9: So Thursday night football in Levi Stadium, here we go.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely well said, and let's start with Brock Purdy because

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Speaker 9: It's funny.

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Speaker 10: There are so many offensive weapons around and they've been

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Speaker 10: in the system now long enough to understand the details

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Speaker 10: and the landmarks they have to hit, and brock Perty

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Speaker 10: knows that he can trust each and every one of

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Speaker 10: those guys.

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Speaker 7: With respect to the structure of this offense, cam I'm

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Speaker 7: applying it more to the Giants. They're coming off a

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Speaker 7: miraculous comeback against the Cardinals, but they had a lot

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Speaker 7: of mistackles. James Connor was very effective on the ground,

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Speaker 7: and I described this Niners offense as slippery and elusive

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Speaker 7: right because yardage after the catch is such a key

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Speaker 7: statistic as you would hit on with guys like McCaffrey

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Speaker 7: and Deebo Samuel from the Giants defensive perspective, How big

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Speaker 7: of a toll order and a task is that in

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Speaker 7: terms of the tackling that they need to hone in

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Speaker 7: on when going up against this Niners offense.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, it's why this offense has been known

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Speaker 10: for the last four years for their yards after the hatch.

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Speaker 10: Slippery and lusive is one way to say it, I

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Speaker 10: would use different different words coming to my mind. I mean,

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Speaker 10: that's fine, but from watching this team, there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of space. The guys know how to get the ball

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Speaker 10: in space right then they take off and then it's

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Speaker 10: not so much that they're slippery and can slip out

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Speaker 10: of tackles. They power through tackles. And it's not just them.

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Speaker 10: They're getting huge blocks from all these other guys like

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Speaker 10: you and Rayray McLeod sprung Christian McCaffrey's sixty five yard

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Speaker 10: touchdown run in Week one, because they threw these just

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Speaker 10: devastating blocks downfield. You have Trent Williams at left tackle

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Speaker 10: that goes to the next level repeatedly, and Aaron Banks

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Speaker 10: is a left guard. He's in a second full year

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Speaker 10: as a starter.

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Speaker 9: Next to him.

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Speaker 10: The Niners are smart enough where they're just running behind

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Speaker 10: those guys and they don't necessarily need to be slippering

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Speaker 10: and loosive, because all of a sudden, there's there's five

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Speaker 10: yards to run and then it's find a little hole

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Speaker 10: and then there you go.

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Speaker 7: I guess I was caught up with that Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 7: touchdown against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Cam So that's why slippery.

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Speaker 7: Ad a loosen came to mind, but yes, we have

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Speaker 7: seen them over defenders as well.

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Speaker 10: If you look at that play again, I mean it's

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Speaker 10: it's a short pass, it's a backward pass, so it's

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Speaker 10: a lateral but if you'll see it, George Kittle is

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Speaker 10: out there blocking on the edge and he takes out

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Speaker 10: one guy and that goes into another guy and another guy.

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Speaker 10: So all Devo's got to do is side step three

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Speaker 10: rams that already on the turf and then he cuts

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Speaker 10: back and that he does the debo things. And just

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Speaker 10: when Deebo's running like this, I mean, that's what made

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Speaker 10: him an All Pro a couple of years ago and

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Speaker 10: made him such a multi dimensional threat. He he has

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Speaker 10: that hunger and he's in shape, and so that's that

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Speaker 10: bodes well for the Niners, not doesn't bode so well

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Speaker 10: for the Giants defenders.

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Speaker 7: Well, Tolly we cam inman who covers the Niners of

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Speaker 7: the San Jose Mercury News. Speaking of being in shape,

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Speaker 7: let's flip the script to the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: Because Nick Bosa had a contractual holdout, and I know

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Speaker 7: you've been on top of his snap counts. I was

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Speaker 7: seeing how you tweeted that out and the fact that

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Speaker 7: his numbers skyrocketed cam in terms of what he put

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Speaker 7: forth against the Rams much different than what we saw

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Speaker 7: against the Steelers. Now, with the quick turnaround, what do

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Speaker 7: you think the approach is in terms of how hard

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Speaker 7: they'll work came on Thursday.

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Speaker 10: I think Nick's gonna want to be worked all the

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Speaker 10: way to the max, honestly, because you know, he only

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Speaker 10: had thirty five snaps in the opener and then he

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Speaker 10: almost doubled that last game. The Niners were on the

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Speaker 10: field a lot against the Rams and Bosa it doesn't

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Speaker 10: have a sack yet, but he is impacting the game.

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Speaker 10: The Niners had two interceptions last game, and Bosa was

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Speaker 10: kind of getting in there on the rush. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's obvious everybody looks at him.

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Speaker 9: He's drying double teams.

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Speaker 10: But that's also why they got Javon Hargray from the

518
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Speaker 10: Eagles to come up the middle and pressure and on

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Speaker 10: the other edges Drake Jackson, who had three sacks in

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Speaker 10: the opener. So the boas effect, it trickles down, right,

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Speaker 10: But this is prime time and Nick Bosa is getting

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Speaker 10: paid two million dollars a year on this new contract.

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Speaker 10: And that means, okay, this is your time to shine.

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Speaker 10: And I go back to twenty nineteen in his rookie

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Speaker 10: year is probably like a week four Monday night football game,

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Speaker 10: I think against the Browns and he destroyed Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 10: and just had such a ball. I kind of gets

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Speaker 10: the sense at bo like he's not expressing any oh,

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Speaker 10: I got to get back shape.

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Speaker 9: This is really rough. It was like after the game

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Speaker 9: he's like, yeah, actually, I feel pretty good.

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Speaker 10: I needed all this. I need more reps. And as

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Speaker 10: that game more on in LA he got better. So

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Speaker 10: he's a physical specimen and he's getting paid like one obviously,

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Speaker 10: but he is a technician also that knows what to do.

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Speaker 10: So here's the deal with Bosa and Drake Jackson this

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Speaker 10: week is and all the Niners defense in all is

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Speaker 10: they got to watch Daniel Jones on the zone reads

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Speaker 10: because mobile quarterbacks have been an issue with this defense

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Speaker 10: for years, and Nick will get sucked in to go

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Speaker 10: after that pass rush and if Jones can deep him

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Speaker 10: and get around him, the Niners better have somebody to

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Speaker 10: back back bos up because it's the you know, the

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Speaker 10: Russell Wilson's, Lamar Jackson's those guys in the past years,

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Speaker 10: they've just proved loosive. It's not necessarily that they're running quarterbacks.

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Speaker 10: They just can sense when they have an escape patch.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting you brought up Daniel Jones's running ability can

548
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Speaker 7: because now a new part of the equation is though

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Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley's hurt and he's going to play, and you

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Speaker 7: know Matt Brida from being in San Francisco and they

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Speaker 7: have some other younger backs. How much, though, do you

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Speaker 7: think that changes San Francisco's approach Where you said, Hey,

553
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Speaker 7: in past, they've had problems with these elusive quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 7: now you're removing somebody else who's very dangerous from the backfield.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and they know Brita's speed. Right, this is gonna

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Speaker 10: be the Matt Brida revenge game at Levi Stadium. I'm

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Speaker 10: not so sure about that. I mean, the Niners have

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Speaker 10: such a they have all pros at every level of

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Speaker 10: the defense, right, So, yes, they have not seen a

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Speaker 10: mobile quarterback like Daniel Jones necessarily yet after going Matt

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Speaker 10: Stafford and Kenny Pickett. But look at the linebacker corps.

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Speaker 10: You got Fred Warner is the best linebacker in the league,

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Speaker 10: and Drake green Law's Drake green Laws kind of a

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Speaker 10: he's a he's a missile because he just goes after

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Speaker 10: guy the full speed. It's kind of there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of comparisons from past years, like Willison Bowman, who are

567
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Speaker 10: the Niners great linebacker tandem, So they're going to.

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Speaker 9: Be ball hunting really well.

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Speaker 10: And then you've got great state back there, Tellano whu

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Speaker 10: Fonda was an All Pro last year, and then Sean

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Speaker 10: Gibson's the VET, so they're gonna be ready for him

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Speaker 10: and they're good. I mean, it's a short week, you're

573
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Speaker 10: not going to really be practicing against a dual threat guy,

574
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Speaker 10: like how they kept Trey Lance around to be placedout

575
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Speaker 10: team quarterback. But I think that's going to be drilled

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Speaker 10: into him this week, especially just you know, knowing what

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Speaker 10: the Giants have to do to replace Siquon.

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Speaker 7: You brought up Drake Jackson earlier in the conversation, and

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Speaker 7: I look at him cam as an X factor for

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Speaker 7: the Niners. He had that great game against the Steelers

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Speaker 7: with three sacks. Maybe a little bit quieter against the Rams.

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Speaker 7: But this is a second round pick from twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 7: We talk about Bosa Pargrave and we throw in Eric Armstead,

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Speaker 7: but Drake Jackson to be becomes more of the overlooked item.

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Speaker 7: If he does live up to expectations, how much more

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Speaker 7: dangerous does that make this Niners defensive front?

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Speaker 10: And you know, he doesn't have to do the full

588
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Speaker 10: time work because he's split in reps with Cleveland Farrell,

589
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Speaker 10: who was the Raiders first round bust. And Cleveland Farrell

590
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Speaker 10: actually the one that starts on bass downs and Drake

591
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Speaker 10: will come in on pass situation. So both of those

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Speaker 10: guys get opportunities. And Farrell looked really good through preseason

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Speaker 10: and camp and Drake was dealing with the hamstring. So

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Speaker 10: Drake Jackson's breakout, you know, week one performance, you know,

595
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Speaker 10: said oh wow, okay, this guy could be for real.

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Speaker 10: I'm not totally convinced yet, but I know that having

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Speaker 10: both of those guys there and knowing the impact that

598
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Speaker 10: everybody else down the line is going to help them

599
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Speaker 10: look a lot better than they probably really are.

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Speaker 7: Me if some of the changes on the defensive side

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Speaker 7: of the ball, it seems as if nickel back Isaiah

602
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Speaker 7: Oliver has jumped off the page, who they brought over

603
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Speaker 7: from the Atlanta Falcons, he had an interception on Sunday,

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Speaker 7: and clearly, when you have the benefit of all those

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Speaker 7: weapons up front, it makes the job of the secondary

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Speaker 7: a little bit easier. But what has jumped out to

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Speaker 7: you about the immediate impact that Oliver has made on

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Speaker 7: the back end.

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Speaker 10: So during training camp, the Niners coaches kind of called

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Speaker 10: it out and said, yeah, that's an open, open competition.

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Speaker 10: It was like, Wow, they just spent three million dollars

612
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Speaker 10: on this guy in free agency, saying he was the

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Speaker 10: best nickelback in fre agency and he wasn't making enough

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Speaker 10: plays in camp and so far, the season starts and

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Speaker 10: they put Diamedor Lenor, who's going to be one of

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Speaker 10: their outside cornerbacks. They would use him at nickel and

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Speaker 10: then shift him back outside on bass looks, and which

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Speaker 10: was fine. Lenor is an aggressive guy. He's got great instincts.

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Speaker 10: He had an interception against the Rams. But then Oliver

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Speaker 10: really showed up against the Rams. Not all I mean

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Speaker 10: right place, right time on the interception, because it went

622
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Speaker 10: right through the hands of the running back right into

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Speaker 10: Isaiah Oliver. So I'm kind of like, all right, But

624
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Speaker 10: what he also did he made two really good tackles,

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Speaker 10: one short of the sticks and another one on fourth down.

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Speaker 9: And that's what they needed to see at them.

627
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Speaker 10: They needed to see some physicality out of a nickelback

628
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Speaker 10: to come up and play, especially if you're lining up

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Speaker 10: in the slot and there's a run coming at you.

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Speaker 10: So I think he won over that, you know, from

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Speaker 10: the Niner secondary perspective, when they had without using him

632
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Speaker 10: at nickel, they would have Ambry Thomas on the outside

633
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Speaker 10: and Lenora on the inside, Tarvarius Worby on the other

634
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Speaker 10: cornerback and quarterbacks wised up really fast, went after Ambry Thomas,

635
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Speaker 10: who was number twenty and he had knee issue against

636
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Speaker 10: the Rams, so he got dinged up a little bit.

637
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Speaker 10: So he may not be playing. But if I'm Daniel

638
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Speaker 10: Jones and I see number twenty, that's that's my target.

639
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Speaker 10: Because that worked against the Niners the other two games.

640
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Speaker 10: And then Mooney Ward. Tarvarius Ward played with the Chiefs.

641
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Speaker 10: He's the niners number one guy. He plays tight coverage.

642
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Speaker 10: But the problem against the Rams was they came out

643
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Speaker 10: in zone and they gave the Rams so much space underneath,

644
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Speaker 10: and that's why Puka Nakou was like getting fifteen catches,

645
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Speaker 10: but nothing was going over the top, and then in

646
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Speaker 10: the second half they said, all right, enough for this,

647
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Speaker 10: we got to play man. They played tighter, they got

648
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Speaker 10: a better pass rush, and that's kind of they shut

649
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Speaker 10: down Stafford and they made him get some mistakes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they had those two key takeaways that helped seal

651
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Speaker 7: the game. I want to piggyback over your point about

652
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Speaker 7: the pass rush because the Giants is I'm sure you're

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Speaker 7: where They've had some mixed results in the first two games.

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Speaker 7: It was not pretty against Dallas. It improved against Arizona.

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Speaker 7: But my argument is the Cardinals defense, as you know

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Speaker 7: from being in the division, is very different than what

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Speaker 7: San Francisco has to offer. And you look at the

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Speaker 7: Niners five sacks, nine quarterback hits against the Steelers. Numbers

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Speaker 7: dropped a little bit against the Rams a sack and

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Speaker 7: six quarterback hits. Did La do anything in particular that

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Speaker 7: maybe the Giants, you think, will look to duplicate to

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Speaker 7: maybe alleviate some of the pressure that they don't want

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones to see.

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Speaker 10: The only way they can duplicate it is if they

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Speaker 10: clone Matthew Stafford, because the veteran savvy and the quick throws.

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Speaker 9: It was all him. It's his knowledge.

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Speaker 10: That's why the Niners tried to trade for him a

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Speaker 10: few years ago, right before the Rams got him. The

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Speaker 10: Niners committed a lot of money to their defensive front

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Speaker 10: because in twenty nineteen when they went to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 10: that was the engine of it. And so last year,

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Speaker 10: even though both the one player of the year not

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Speaker 10: many sacks the rest of the line, and so that's

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Speaker 10: where they got went out and spent a lot of

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Speaker 10: money on Hardgrave. They brought in Ferrell to be with

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Speaker 10: Drake Jackson, and then they're blitzing a little bit more.

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Speaker 10: They have a new defensive coordinator and Steve Wilkes, formerly

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Speaker 10: of the Carolina Panthers, right, and so I think he's

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Speaker 10: feeling out what's best for this defense and it could

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Speaker 10: be a really good front, and I would expect them

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Speaker 10: to do so as long as that if Daniel Jones

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Speaker 10: holds that ball more than three seconds, the Niners are

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Speaker 10: going to be all over him.

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Speaker 7: I want to piggyback over your point about the defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 7: because you know, we forget Demiko Ryans has been a

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Speaker 7: staple on the Niner staff. He gets the Houston job

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Speaker 7: and more often than not, I think new defensive coordinators

688
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Speaker 7: can come in and they don't want to mess up

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Speaker 7: what works so effectively. But at the same time, you

690
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Speaker 7: can't blame it if they want to put their own

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Speaker 7: stamp right on that side of the ball. How has

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Speaker 7: Steve Wilkes in your mind walked that fine line where hey,

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Speaker 7: it wasn't broken, so I really don't have much to fix.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, we're going to do things

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Speaker 7: a little bit differently than Demiko Ryans did.

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Speaker 10: I think the job description was, we don't watch you

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Speaker 10: to do anything differently than Demiko. We don't watch you

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Speaker 10: do anything different than Robert Sola, because I mean the

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Speaker 10: Niners defense was continue to ascend under both of those guys.

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Speaker 9: What is different is.

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Speaker 10: That Steve Wilks calls the game from upstairs and he's

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Speaker 10: up in the coaches booth getting hot dogs in the

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Speaker 10: press box lounge with us downstairs. You have a lot

704
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Speaker 10: of us to the assistants, but not just that.

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Speaker 9: You have these veteran.

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Speaker 10: Guys on defense now that know what to do to

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Speaker 10: kind of rally everybody. So it's not like, you know, Demiko,

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Speaker 10: would you know Gosh, there was one game about a

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Speaker 10: year ago in Atlanta where they were struggling. Most of

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Speaker 10: their starters were injured and not even suited up, and

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Speaker 10: so Demiko had to huddle everybody up. Wilkes can't do that, obviously,

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Speaker 10: he's upstairs. But you have Fred Warner who's the hype

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Speaker 10: man of the whole team, and Fred can kind of

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Speaker 10: take control and Wilts, you know, we were expecting him

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Speaker 10: to blitz maybe a little bit more. He's mixed up

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Speaker 10: a couple different looks of blitzes at help. I mean,

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Speaker 10: Fred Warner got the only sac last game on Stafford

718
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Speaker 10: because he came up the middle very timely one I

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Speaker 10: think on third down to get him going and so

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Speaker 10: and then a couple defensive back blitzers too. So I

721
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Speaker 10: think that's a little extra element. But at the same time,

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Speaker 10: they're not paying all those guys up front that they

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Speaker 10: need help from blitzers.

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Speaker 9: They need to get those with the front four.

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Speaker 7: Joy we can't in who covers the Niners of the

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Speaker 7: San Jose Mercury News can Before I let you go,

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Speaker 7: we got to talk about the kicking sitch. It wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be complete this conversation considering the Niners are now turning

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Speaker 7: to a rookie and Jake Moody, the third round pick

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Speaker 7: out of Michigan. So far, so good, perfect on field goals,

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Speaker 7: perfect on extra points. I'm not saying you're a kicking expert,

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Speaker 7: but from your optics, from your lens, how is he

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Speaker 7: held up? And how has he handled some of these

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Speaker 7: key moments.

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Speaker 10: It's really I mean, I don't think I've ever written

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Speaker 10: this much about kickers. I mean, it's fascinating because here's

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Speaker 10: the deal. So he gets drafted in the third round

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Speaker 10: out of Michigan, and the last time the forty nine

739
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Speaker 10: ers won a Super Bowl is the nineteen ninety four season,

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Speaker 10: and they did so with a rookie kicker who is

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Speaker 10: also a third round pick. So they go, look at

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Speaker 10: that symmetry, maybe this pays off. And Moody's banging these

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Speaker 10: kicks all through training camp and looking the part, and

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Speaker 10: then about going into the preseason finale, he has a

745
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Speaker 10: leg issue and he's got a right quadrceps trainer like, oh, well,

746
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Speaker 10: that's not good. The kids already got dead leg before

747
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Speaker 10: the season started, so they shut him down for about

748
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Speaker 10: a week and a half, brought in an extra guy

749
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Speaker 10: to see how that would work. But then he goes

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Speaker 10: to Pittsburgh, which is not the easiest place to kick.

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Speaker 10: He makes all three of his field goals, makes all

752
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Speaker 10: of his extra points. Then he goes down to la

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Speaker 10: he makes all three of his field goals, all of

754
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Speaker 10: his extra points. He's the NFL's second leading score But

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Speaker 10: along the way, Shanahan entrusted him to try a fifty

756
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Speaker 10: seven yard field goal against the Rams, and he nailed it,

757
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Speaker 10: and you could just see how proud and relieve Shanahan was, like, Yes,

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Speaker 10: this is the guy that we drafted and spent a

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Speaker 10: third round picked on instead of drafting a.

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Speaker 9: Running back that we'll never use because we have to

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Speaker 9: use it anyhow. That's another story. But they love Jake Moody.

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Speaker 9: But guess what. Now you're going into Levice Stadium.

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Speaker 6: This is going to be.

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Speaker 10: The wins are always a little tricky there because there's

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Speaker 10: two open ends of the stadium and it kind of

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Speaker 10: creates a swirling effect. So that's what Robbie Gold was

767
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Speaker 10: so great at was he knew exactly how to place

768
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Speaker 10: the ball and let the win take it in through

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Speaker 10: the uprights. Moody last kick there, it was I think

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Speaker 10: their second preseason gave and he kicked a walk off winner.

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Speaker 9: But it didn't go through right down the middle. It's

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Speaker 9: snaked through and everything like hmmm. So we'll see how

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Speaker 9: it goes.

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Speaker 10: But I think the kid has hammeled pressure really well.

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Speaker 10: But he's got a long season ahead of him.

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Speaker 7: He does indeed well, It's just another element didn't play.

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Speaker 7: As the Giants and the Niners collide on Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 7: He's Cam inman who covers the team for the San

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Speaker 7: Jose Mercury News Camp. Can't thank you enough. Greatly, appreciate

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Speaker 7: the time of the inside. Enjoy Thursday night football, and

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Speaker 7: I look forward to talking.

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Speaker 3: Down the road all right.

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Speaker 9: Likewise, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: He's with the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 11: The Giants with a big win on Sunday against the

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Speaker 11: Arizona Cardinals. Staying out here in Arizona in preparation for

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Speaker 11: Thursday night as always, joined by two times Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: champion Carl Banks and the head coach of the New

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Speaker 11: York Giants, Brian Dable. Wild one yesterday against Arizona. What

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Speaker 11: was the message to your team at halftime down twenty

804
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Speaker 11: to nothing.

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Speaker 2: And not the way we wanted to start for the

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Speaker 2: second week in a row. So it was trying to

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Speaker 2: man up and play better and coach better and not

808
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Speaker 2: make excuses, focus on the things. A week of control

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Speaker 2: and go out there. You know we were getting the

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Speaker 2: ball and the first series and try to put one

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Speaker 2: in and you know, not let the game get away

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Speaker 2: from us to you know, stay two dimensional, both run

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Speaker 2: and pass on offense. And then you know when they

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Speaker 2: drove down and scored and hits two points to move

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Speaker 2: from twenty eight to seven, it was again it was

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Speaker 2: the next play they did get a job, they answered

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Speaker 2: the bell and then we started getting a few stops

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Speaker 2: on defense, you know, and execute it well that second half.

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Speaker 1: Coach, you being around sports and the mental makeup of

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Speaker 1: football players and coaches for a very long time, and

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Speaker 1: I said, this was a character win because human nature

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Speaker 1: sometimes will make your doubt whether or not you can

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Speaker 1: get back to where you were. And you've spoken your

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Speaker 1: post game about the resiliency of your coaches and your players.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 12: Sure?

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're building a team, you want to

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Speaker 2: bring in the right kind of people first and foremost

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Speaker 2: that have talents. And I just think that selflessness promotes

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Speaker 2: promotes mental toughness, and selfishness promotes a mentally weak team.

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Speaker 12: And it's tough. You know, when you're down what we.

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Speaker 2: Were down, you know, and you can don't look too far,

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Speaker 2: you know, behind you. But you have that first game

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Speaker 2: that you have and you've got to be able to

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Speaker 2: really be able to focus and lock in and then

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Speaker 2: go out there and play. And then you know, when

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Speaker 2: you start getting some results usually that promotes a little

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Speaker 2: bit more. But it's when you're not getting the results

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Speaker 2: when things aren't perfect for you, whether you're not playing

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Speaker 2: as much as you want to play, or you have

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Speaker 2: a bad play, you know, it's easy to kind of

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Speaker 2: put your head down and you know sometimes feel sorry

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Speaker 2: for yourself. And that's you know, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: do that. We don't make excuses. We got to play better,

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Speaker 2: We got to coach better. You know, we had a good,

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Speaker 2: good half of football, but a lot of work that needs.

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Speaker 12: To be done. Coach.

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Speaker 11: When you look at the math, and I said this

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Speaker 11: to Carl during the broadcast, once you got it too,

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Speaker 11: twenty eight to fourteen, you're like wasteing and there's a

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Speaker 11: whole fourth quarter and there's four minutes left of the third.

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Speaker 11: Is that sort of the feeling on the sideline, like

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Speaker 11: there's a lot of game to be played here.

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Speaker 12: Let's play this out, no question.

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Speaker 2: You know, odds are when you get a lead like

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Speaker 2: that in the first half, the other team's going to win.

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Speaker 2: But to keep straining and fighting and really executing, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's you always preach, let's not worry about the

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Speaker 2: scoreboard or the situation.

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Speaker 12: Let's just focus on the next play.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you punch it in a couple of

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Speaker 2: times and you get the ball back and you get

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 12: Bit of momentum.

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Speaker 2: You know, it really comes down to execution, doing the

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Speaker 2: fundamentals and the basics right, and then all eleven people

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Speaker 2: being on the same page. And I'd say, you know,

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Speaker 2: for the play callers that they got to be able

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Speaker 2: to stay in the moment too. And you know it's

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Speaker 2: it's not the game's not away from you and stay

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Speaker 2: true to kind of what you do well and go

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Speaker 2: out there and execute. And you know, I talk collectively

873
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and players. You know, that's you know,

874
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: the complimentary football that that we.

875
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 12: Need to play.

876
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: You talked about your coaching staff and it's a game

877
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: of adjustments. Sure, so what you guys gave Arizona in

878
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: the second half may may have looked the same, but

879
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: the plays were different. You were able to get some

880
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: vertical balls share on the fielding, which obviously opened up

881
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: the bots a little bit for the run game, but

882
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: the mission stayed the same. But just the adjustments and

883
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: being able to use some of those things.

884
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 12: Sure.

885
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, Carl, you talk about those throughout the game.

886
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: You know, the first couple series you let the kind

887
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: of see how the game's go and see how teams

888
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: are playing. I think you start talking about a sideline

889
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: right away. And again it ultimately comes down to the

890
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: execution of the play. But you know, there's definitely certain

891
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: things that we talked about in all three phases to

892
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, put a little wrinkle here, you know, give

893
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: them a different look there, and maybe attack a little

894
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: bit more vertically and on offense. But again, at the

895
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: end of the day, you know, a couple of big

896
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: third down stops, get the ball back, drive down, execute,

897
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: you know.

898
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 11: That's that's what you wanted to look like. Some late

899
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 11: in the game they get called for a couple of

900
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 11: false starts. The Giants fans and there were a lot

901
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 11: of them in the buildingbelievable, certainly, it was like a

902
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 11: home game at that point.

903
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. You could see the sea of blue there, you

904
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: could feel them, you could feel them, you know, at

905
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: the end of the game, like you said, where there

906
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: was some false starts and you know it was it

907
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: was loud there. We appreciate their support so much, and

908
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: you know after the game, there's a you know, thousands

909
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: of people waiting after the game when you're walking out.

910
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 12: To the buses.

911
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 11: And much respect to to our fan base, the Giants

912
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 11: and San Francisco on a short week. Coach obviously This

913
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 11: is a team, it's had a lot of success the

914
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 11: last couple of years and they're off to a two

915
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 11: and zero start. What kind of challenges do they present

916
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 11: to you defensively with the amount of weapons that they

917
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 11: have on all three levels.

918
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd say just the entire team.

919
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: I think John Lynch and coach Shanahan have done a

920
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: fabulous job of instilling their fingerprint on this organization. Coachan

921
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: has been successful for a long time as a coordinator

922
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: and as a head coach, does a tremendous job with

923
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: this football team.

924
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 12: There's no secret why they win.

925
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: They have really good players, they have really good coaches

926
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: at players, like you said, on all three levels really

927
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: of defense and the offense, from the back to the receivers,

928
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: to the tight end, to the line, to the defensive line,

929
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: to the middle linebacker to the secondary. This is a

930
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: complete team and there's a reason why they've won for

931
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: so many games over the past few years, coming off.

932
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: For a short week in preparation, obviously, it's more about

933
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: the mental aspect and Jery sure that everyone knows their

934
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: responsibilities for a.

935
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 12: Game like this, no question, and you know we do.

936
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: We do work as most teams I would suspect, you know,

937
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: in the offseason, know when you have a short week

938
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: during training camp on down days where you can get

939
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: a head start on this Thursday night game, but it

940
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: is a short week. There's not a lot of sleep

941
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: for the coaches, the players, Like you said, it's really mental.

942
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: You got to get them fresh as you can to

943
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: play in a short week. And everybody plays them, so

944
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: our focus is on the meetings, really dialing in. And

945
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: then you know the walkthrough slash jock through is you

946
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: got to treat them like practice, you know, mentally because

947
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: you're not getting as much physical work, but a tremendous

948
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: challenge to prepare for a Thursday night game and particularly

949
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: against this football team.

950
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 11: And I stopping the run is always very important. Obviously

951
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 11: McCaffrey's had two one hundred yard games. They use debo

952
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 11: in the run game. What makes their run games so challenging.

953
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 12: Well, two things.

954
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: One they have really good players and two they have

955
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: a really good coach. He's you know, he's really he's fantastic,

956
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: really in the run game end in the past game.

957
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 12: He sets things up that look the same.

958
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: The players extecute, well, they have you know, all pro

959
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: players seems like at every position on that football team.

960
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: So you know we're going to have to do a

961
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: good job of trying to stop that run. Easier said

962
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: than done, So that's what we're working at.

963
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 12: Do you treat Kittle almost like a receiver? He's a

964
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 12: tight end. He's a complete tight end.

965
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: There is tough and run routes, has a great run

966
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: after catch and run, short routes, intermediate routes, vertical routes.

967
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: You know, he's a fun guy to watch when you're

968
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: not getting ready to play.

969
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 12: The following weeks. Yeah, yeah, he's something else. Coach. We

970
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 12: appreciate a couple of months of luck.

971
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: We thank Bob Pop and Brian Dable. We thank Jalen Hyatt,

972
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: We thank cam Inman and Lance Meta as well as

973
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: we get ready for the Giants N forty nine is

974
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: really good stuff throughout the show from all of those gentlemen,

975
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: Thanks for being with us in the Giants Little Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget.

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Speaker 4: You will find another great review of this game on

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979
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Speaker 4: out all of our podcast offerings. For the guys, I

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Speaker 4: am John Schmelch Cool.

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