1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest reaction to the earnings 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: report investors around the world we're bracing for. It has 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: been volatile, but shares of nvidiam have turned higher. They 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: are now three quarters of one percent in early trading. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: The chip maker at the center of the AI spending boom, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: delivered good, but not great quarterly numbers. It's drawing a 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: muted response from investors who have been accustomed to blow 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: out results. We get more from Bloomberg's Tom mackenzie. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: It's about expectations, and it's all about whether or not 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: this is a company that, by the way, in the 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 4: last five years has only missed quarterly result was once 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 4: and this time was not a miss again. It was 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: a modest beat. The question mark is to what extent 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: the huge revenue growth that we've seen from Nvidia in 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 4: the last two years is starting potentially to peak. How 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: much further can they go in supplying these chips and 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: continuing to generate the frankly eyewatering growth, almost unprecedented growth 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: that we've seen from one individual company in the months 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: and quarters ahead, and that question has not yet been resolved, 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: and it hasn't been put to bed by the results 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: that we've. 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Had out Bloomberg. Sam mackenzie says in video is putting 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: its quarterly sales at about forty three billion dollars. That 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: is slightly above the average analysts essiment Well Nathan. 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: Many analysts pointed to a disappointment within Vidia's gross profit margins. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Here's Angelo Zino, vice president of equity research at CFRA. 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 5: The gross margin number was probably the one black eye 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: as far as where we kind of were looking at 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: the guidance side of things. It was definitely a disappointment. 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 5: I think when you kind of especially look at the 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: trajectory of gross margins over the last couple of quarters, 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: it kind of hit a peak run rate of about 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: seventy eight percent in the first half of calendar twenty 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: twenty four. So the margins continue to compress here going 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: into the April quarter. The good news is we do 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: expect that to essentially be the trough of the cycle 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: here in the April. 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: Quarter, cfirays. 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Angelo Zeno also says Chinese start up Deep Sea Cas 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: spark fears that chatbots can be developed more cheaply, potentially 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: reducing the need for Nvidia's powerful chips for AI. 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: In the meantime, Karen, we have some sad news to 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: report this morning, the death of a Hollywood legend. Oscar 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: winning actor Gene Hackman and his wife were found dead 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: in their New Mexico home. Their dog died as well. 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: Authorities did not release any details of the circumstances of 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: their deaths, but they do say foul play is not suspected. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Gene Hackman appeared in more than eighty films, including The 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: French Connection, Unforgiven, and Hoosiers. He was ninety five years old. 53 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, let's turn out to some breaking developments on 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: the Trump administration's push to freeze foreign aid payments. We 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: get the latest with Bloomberg's John Tucker. John Good Morning, ed. 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 6: Morning, Karen. Chief Justice John Roberts has handed President Trump 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: of victory, at least for now. He temporarily blocked up 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 6: to two billion dollars in foreign aid. Roberts paused a 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 6: lower court's order that had lifted the administration's freeze on 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 6: foreign assistance. Humanitarian groups say this freeze is having a 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: devastating impact, offending hundreds of projects, forcing USA partner groups 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 6: to lay off or furlough thousands of US workers, and 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 6: putting people who depend on the assistance at risk of 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 6: disease and even death. The group say the money includes 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 6: payments for work already completed. The humanitarian groups challenging the 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 6: freeze now have until Friday afternoon to respond. I'm John Tucker, 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Radio. 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: Okay, John, thank you. President Trump is warning federal workers 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: who haven't responded to Elon Musk's email asking what they 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: did last week, they could be out of a job. 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 7: And I think it's a good idea because you know 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 7: those people, as I said before, they run the bubble. 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 7: You get a lot of people that have not responded. 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 7: So we're trying to figure out do they exist, who 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 7: are they? That is possible that a lot of those 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 7: people will be actually fired. 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: In cabinet meeting remarks heard on Bloomberg Radio, President Trump 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: spoke after the White House told federal agencies to submit 79 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: large scale workforce reduction plans by March thirteenth. The President 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: says the Environmental Protection Agencies looking into cutting up to 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: sixty five percent of its staff. One agency. The National 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is putting together a list of 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: workers who have yet to respond to Musk's email. 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: Now, Nathan, the latest on Trump's trade war. The President 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: says tariffs on products from the European Union will be 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: twenty five percent. In his first cabinet meeting, he used 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: strong language to attack the EU. 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 7: It was formed in order to screw the United States. 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 7: I mean, look, let's be honest. The European Union was 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 7: formed in order to screw the United States. That's the 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 7: purpose of it, and they've done a good job of it. 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 7: But now I'm President. 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, Trump's proposal for a twenty five percent tariff on 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: the EU is new. Officials later clarify that all options 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: are being considered on whether those would affect all exports 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: from the block or only certain products or sectors. 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: We have breaking trade news crossing the Bloomberg terminal Karen. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: Officials in India are exploring ways to lower tariffs on 99 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: a wide range of imports, including cars and chemicals, in 100 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: a bid to evade President Trump's threatened reciprocal levies, sources 101 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: tell Bloomberg News. Officials in New Delhi are discussing reducing 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: duties on automobiles, agricultural products, chemicals and critical pharmaceuticals. 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: Well Nathan. Trump's announcement on EU tariff's come as UK 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Keir Starmer heads to the White House to 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: meet with the President. We got to London with Bloomberg's 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: James Wilcock. 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 8: Good morning James, Good morning Karen and Nathan. Since the 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 8: Second World War, the UK has framed itself as having 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 8: a so called special relationship with America. So with Europe's 110 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 8: leaders scrambling to change Ukraine's fate, Prime Minister Kiss Starmer's 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 8: visit to the White House today is a test how 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 8: strong is that alliance and will Starmer be able to 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 8: sway a US president who has been willing to upend 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 8: transatlantic relations. After watching France's leader Emmanuel Macron's trip this week, 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 8: Starmer's aids told Bloomberg they would be delighted if they 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 8: can get through the week without any public disagreement with 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 8: Donald Trump in London. James Wilcock, Bloomberg Radio, All right. 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: James, thank you on Bloomberg. Will bring you live coverage 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: to the news conference with President Trump and Keir Starmers 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: schedule to begin at two pm Wall Street Time, here 121 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: at on Bloomberg Radio and on the Bloomberg podcast page 122 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: on YouTube, Karen. 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio is laying out a strategy 124 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: for managing Russia's relationship with China. He says he wants 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: to dilute ties between the nuclear powers, but not have 126 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: them at each other's throats. 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 9: The big story of the twenty first century is going 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 9: to be US Chinese relations and if China and if 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 9: Russia becomes a permanent junior partner to China in the 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 9: long term. Well, now you talk about two nuclear powers 131 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 9: aligned against the United States. 132 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio tells the conservative outlet Breitbart News, 133 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: Russia wouldn't be able to improve relations with the US 134 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: even if it wanted to, if it became completely dependent 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: on China. 136 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, Russia is using ties with North Korea at 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: a boost it's war effort in Ukraine. According to South 138 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Korea's Yon Have News, North Korea has sent more than 139 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: one thousand more troops to Russia this year. That's on 140 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: top of the thousands deployed last year. 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm back in Washington, Karen. The Trump administry making a 142 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: move that could affect the next flu season. It's canceled 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: a meeting of the Food and Drug Administration's Vaccine Advisory 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: Committee that had been tentatively set for March thirteenth. The 145 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: committee was planning to discuss how to make next season's 146 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: flu shot. It's usually a routine step to ensure that 147 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: manufacturers have enough time to produce the proper houses and. 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: Nathan Bloomberg News has learned US health officials are reevaluating 149 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: a five hundred and ninety million dollar contract for bird 150 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: flu shaw So the Biden Administration awarded to Maderna. The 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: review is part of a government push to examine spending 152 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: on Messenger RNA based vaccines and shares a Maderna, they're 153 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: down more than four percent. Time now for a look 154 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news in New 155 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: York and around the world. And for that we're joined 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning. 157 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 10: Good Morning. Karen Kama says it is ready to negotiate 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 10: the next phase of the ceasefire in the Gaza Strip 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 10: after handing over the remains of four hostages in exchange 160 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 10: for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel. 161 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 10: The truce is set to end this weekend. Former US 162 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 10: Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East Mick mulroy, since. 163 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 11: They haven't agreed to enter into the second phase, that 164 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 11: means the cessation on hostilities could be over and fighting 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 11: could resume. And we've seen steps taken by the idea 166 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 11: of both mobilizing units in calling up reservist that indicate 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 11: that might actually happen. 168 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 10: A school age child in Texas has died of measles, 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 10: and outbreak in the state has grown more than one 170 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 10: hundred and twenty cases. Almost all the cases are in 171 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 10: unvaccinated patients. Epidemiologist doctor John Brownstein. 172 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 6: It's not just a rash. It can cause pneumonia, brain swelling, 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 6: even death. 174 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 5: We're seeing that now in Texas. 175 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: It's a safe, effective vaccine and that's the way you 176 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: keep your kids safe and really the communities around you safe. 177 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 12: It's really that simple. 178 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 10: Allies a former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo have formed 179 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 10: a super pack. It comes just days before Cuomo is 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 10: expected to enter the New York mayoral race and again 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 10: recapping Academy Award Winnergyan Ackman and his wife were found 182 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 10: dead at their new Mexico home, along with their dog. 183 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 10: Police do not believe foul play was the factor. Hackman 184 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 10: was ninety five Global News twenty four hours a day 185 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 10: and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now Michael Barrn, 186 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 10: This is Bloomberg. 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: Karen, all right, Michael Barry, thank you time now fild Bloomberg. 188 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: Sports Update brought to you by Tria State OUTI. Here's 189 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: John Stanshawer, John, good morning, Good morning. 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 13: Karen Nixon. Sixers at the Garden. The two teams at 191 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 13: a memorable playoffs series last year, but this season's been 192 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 13: a nightmare in Philly, especially lately. They came in having 193 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 13: lost eight in a row. We're on their way to 194 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 13: another lop side and lost. When they rallied, Sixers went 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 13: from down nineteen to up four, but Jalen Brunton, a 196 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 13: big three, made a bunch of free throws. He was 197 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 13: fifteen of sixteen from the line. Brunson finished with thirty 198 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 13: four points. Nicks pulled it out one ten, one oh 199 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 13: five at Barkleys looked like an upset and Nets led 200 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 13: West lead in Oklahoma City by fifteen and a half 201 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 13: back came the thunder to win one, twenty nine, one 202 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 13: twenty one, the Celtics six game wins streak ended in 203 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 13: Detroit to much improved Pistons, won by twenty Colorado Avalanche 204 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 13: four goals in the third period to beat the Devil's 205 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 13: five to one. In college basketball, the madness is usually 206 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 13: in March. We're not quite there yet, but a mad finish. 207 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 13: As Michigan State and Maryland were tied. 208 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: Go and speak for three years. Coloman looks the clock. 209 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 8: My goodness. 210 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 13: They attend network to call the Trey Holloman half court 211 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 13: shot for the Spartan Saint John's got twenty four points 212 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 13: of R. J. Lewis and one at Butler's seventy six 213 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 13: to seventy. The Red Storm had clinched at least a 214 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 13: tie for the Big East regular season title and win 215 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 13: Saturday at the Garden over Seaton Hall, and they went 216 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 13: it outright. The NFL Players Association had their rank and 217 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 13: file to a survey of their employers. The Dolphins got 218 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 13: the highest grades, the Cardinals the worst. When it came 219 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 13: to team ownership, the only owner that got a grade 220 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 13: of an F was the Jets. Woody Johnson, John Stashiawer 221 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,119 Speaker 13: Bloomberg Sports Karen Eathan. 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious Exam 223 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 224 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 225 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The morning after and Nvidia 226 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: earnings Day, the most hotly anticipated earnings report arguably of 227 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: the week, if not the month. This morning, it seems 228 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: investors are still trying to figure out how to react 229 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: to it. The AI chip giant came out with a 230 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: sales forecast that beat the average Wall Street estimate, but 231 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: not the blowout result that a lot of investors have 232 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: gotten used to over the last couple of years with 233 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: this company. For more reaction, let's bring in Dan Ives, 234 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Global head of Tech research at Webbush Securities. Dan always 235 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: great to talk with you, particularly about AI. Your reaction 236 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: to these results from Nvidia. 237 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 12: Good morning, it's bullsh I mean, if you look at 238 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 12: Blackwell the next gen chip eleven billion, that's basically three 239 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 12: to four billion, then I think most in the street 240 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 12: we're expecting, even the bulls, the deep seek fears you're 241 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 12: not seeing it. It's smoked no fire, and I think 242 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 12: this is one is the street digestics, and this stock's 243 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 12: green today. 244 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: The forecast for forty three billion dollars in sales this quarter, 245 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, just above the average estimate, but there 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: were some analysts who are calling for something like forty 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: eight billion or more. Does Nvidia need to continue to 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: produce the kinds of blowout results that investors had been 249 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: getting used. 250 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 12: To, Yeah, I actually don't think so. I think we 251 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 12: were at that point right in terms of the hypergrowth 252 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 12: going from one trillion to three trillion. But now for 253 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 12: this stock one seventy five, two hundred, you're not going 254 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 12: to need these massive blowouts. It's actually the trajectory is 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 12: so historic because they are the only game in town 256 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 12: when it comes to these next gen chips and there's 257 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 12: only one Red phones godfather b Ai Jensen Nvinion. I 258 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 12: think you start to have gout six seven dollars earnings 259 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 12: next you know, called one two years and there's a 260 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 12: stock that I could have a two in front of 261 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 12: it as we go into next year. 262 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: You say that in video is still the only game 263 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: in town. There had been a lot of questions raised 264 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: about Deep Seek. It sounds like you're putting Deep Seek 265 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: on the back burner. Here, But how much of a 266 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: threat could deep Seek be down the line if it 267 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: continues to produce an AI model that is potentially a 268 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: much lower cost than in VideA. 269 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, look, deep Seek's a great model, but so is 270 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 12: Chad GBT and so as well. I'm and there'll be 271 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 12: other models and they'll get cheaper. But for large scale 272 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 12: enterprise deployments, there's only one chip that you're using. 273 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: It's in video. 274 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 12: And I could also argue as the models get cheaper, 275 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 12: it's more GP capacity. 276 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: It's actually bullish for in video. 277 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 12: So I don't view it that way. But remember, look 278 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 12: right now, everyone's trying to find a crack in the 279 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 12: arm or AI bubb well, remember a lot of the 280 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 12: bears they've missed, you know, this massive run in tech 281 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 12: for the last three years. They're not finding it. I 282 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 12: actually think, you know, this is the fuel for really 283 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 12: the book is not just in Nvidia, but really the 284 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 12: broader AI revolution across the rest of tech, max having others. 285 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: So do you continue to see the hyperscalers, these big 286 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: companies continuing to spend on AI the way that they 287 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: have tens of billions of dollars every quarter. We've seen 288 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: some companies talking about at least trying to scale back 289 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: some of that cap bax. 290 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 12: Look, it's you have three hundred and twenty five billion 291 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 12: of cap backs between you called the top six tech players. 292 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 12: That's one hundred billion increased year of a year. Well 293 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 12: that moderate going into next year, of course, but it's 294 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 12: the start that you're essentially building out a new city, 295 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 12: and it starts the vidio, but then it goes to 296 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 12: the hyper skills, goes to the rest of software, goes 297 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 12: to cybersecurity, consumer data centers, and that's really where this 298 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 12: is playing out. Look, are there certain things like Trump 299 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 12: in terms of export controls in some other words, of course, 300 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 12: but the reality is is that we're talking about once 301 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 12: in a forty to fifty year build out. 302 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: We've got Nvidia in the pre market trading around one 303 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two dollars to share. You adjusting your 304 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: price target for Nvidia. 305 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 12: One seventy five base two hundred bull and I ultimately 306 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 12: think this is one where you know, there's a lot 307 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 12: of worries going into this. They produce flying calls in 308 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 12: terms of coming out with this. Now you digest what 309 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 12: this means going forward, China is going to be a player. 310 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 12: But ultimately, you know, in Vidia continues to be that 311 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 12: only game in town. When it comes to next ten chips. 312 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: Just thirty seconds left, Dan, how much does Nvidia have 313 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: to get past Wall Street estimates to get to that 314 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: two hundred dollars ball case? 315 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 12: Look, I think if they continue on this trajectory, especially 316 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 12: with Blackwell, I mean, I think you could be there 317 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 12: in the next you know called two three quarters. But look, 318 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 12: haters hate. That's what happens in video. 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