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Speaker 1: In March two thousand seven, the much celebrated writer and

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Speaker 1: film director JJ Abrams gave a ted talk entitled The

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Speaker 1: Mystery Box. In it, he outlined the notion of unseen

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Speaker 1: mystery as one of his fundamental principles of storytelling. In

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Speaker 1: order to demonstrate the point, Abrams brought along a gift

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Speaker 1: he received from a relative back when he was fourteen

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Speaker 1: years old, Tannon's Magic Mystery Box. The box was rather plain,

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Speaker 1: looking like a regular brown cardboard box with a large

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Speaker 1: black question mark printed on the front of it. The

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Speaker 1: idea was that although you couldn't see what was inside it,

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Speaker 1: the makers of the box promised to anyone who might

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Speaker 1: buy it that it contained the equivalent of fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: worth of magic for the price of only fifteen dollars.

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Speaker 1: To a fourteen year old kid like Abrams, it was

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Speaker 1: an exhilarating gift. Just what incredible things might it contain

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Speaker 1: that could possibly equate to fifty dollars worth of magic?

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Speaker 1: Only in all that time Abrams had never opened it,

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Speaker 1: as he astutely realized, the real magic had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with what was actually inside the box, but rather

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Speaker 1: in the wandering of what might be in the thirty

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Speaker 1: six years since the box had been gifted to him,

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Speaker 1: it had come to symbolize something far more valuable than

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Speaker 1: anything that could be inside. To Abrams, whose show Lost

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Speaker 1: has been described as one of the greatest mystery dramas

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Speaker 1: of all time, the box was a powerful reminder of

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Speaker 1: the infinite potential of story and how mystery is the

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Speaker 1: key to imagination. With that in mind, before we go

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Speaker 1: any further, let's try a little experiment. A stranger approaches

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Speaker 1: you in the street brandishing a suitcase. They say to you,

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Speaker 1: what I have in this suitcase will change your life.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to know what it is? You want

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Speaker 1: to know what's in the case, don't you? Would you

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Speaker 1: ask them to open it? Or not? Now hold on

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Speaker 1: to that thought. We'll come back to it later. The

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Speaker 1: best mysteries are the boxes with lids that remain closed

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Speaker 1: the longest, or, like a Chinese box, the ones that

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Speaker 1: open only to reveal another deeper mystery inside. In the

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Speaker 1: context of story, at least, as the huge success of

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Speaker 1: Abrams's Enigmatic Lost demonstrates, perhaps it's better not to open

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Speaker 1: the box at all, since the revelation of what's inside

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Speaker 1: rarely up to expectation. What I find most fascinating about

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Speaker 1: Abrams's notion of unseen mystery is not so much the

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Speaker 1: tease of needing to know what's inside the box, but

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Speaker 1: how by withholding the truth of what it is, like

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Speaker 1: some sort of infinity loop, it enables us to continually

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Speaker 1: reimagine the possibilities. The infinite possibility of story is not

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Speaker 1: limited to the world of fiction. Some interpretations of quantum

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Speaker 1: mechanical theories, such as superposition and wavefunction collapse, first introduced

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Speaker 1: by pioneering physicist Werner Heisenberg, suggests that subatomic particles and

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Speaker 1: by extension, all matter, effectively exist as a set of

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Speaker 1: infinite possibilities, becoming fixed or collapsing into a singular state

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Speaker 1: only once they are observed or measured. For a truly

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Speaker 1: mind bending introduction to this phenomena, seek out Professor Jim

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Speaker 1: Alkalilly's explanation of the double slit experiment, presented as part

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Speaker 1: Another famous depiction of this strange phenomena is Irwin Schrodinger's

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty five thought experiment. Schrodinger's Cat, perhaps the most

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Speaker 1: famous mystery box of the mall. The experiment invites you

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Speaker 1: to imagine a box or steel chamber, as Schrodinger has it,

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Speaker 1: that contains a flask of poison and a hammer linked

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Speaker 1: radioactive substance. A cat is placed inside the box, which

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Speaker 1: is then sealed, with no way for the observer to

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Speaker 1: single atom of decay from the radioactive substance, the hammer

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Speaker 1: will fall and release a poison, killing the cat. However,

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Speaker 1: because we can't actually see inside the box, it could

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Speaker 1: be said that, regardless of what has happened, the cat

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Speaker 1: the box, in other words, empirically measure what has occurred,

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Speaker 1: with quite extraordinary implications, even horrifying, perhaps, the notion of

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Speaker 1: into place once it has been observed. After all, is

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Speaker 1: there any knowing who or what might constitute the observer? Indeed,

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Speaker 1: the true horror be in discovering that, having opened the box,

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Speaker 1: in the street brandishing their mysterious suitcase. Did you decide

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Speaker 1: change your life? You did? Notice that I never said

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Speaker 1: anything about it changing your life for the better. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Unexplained, and I'm Richard McLean Smith. All of

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Speaker 1: the events that I'm about to set forth in this

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Speaker 1: of hospital records and sworn AffA davits that I'm including

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Speaker 1: as part of the sale posted in June two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three by a then thirty eight year old Kevin

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Speaker 1: Manis a furniture and antique seller from Portland, Oregon. This

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Speaker 1: certainly wasn't your average eBay listing. Then again, the article

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Speaker 1: for sale was not your typical eBay item. This was

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Speaker 1: something else entirely. The story, according to Kevin, begins back

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Speaker 1: in September two thousand and one. Kevin is the owner

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Speaker 1: of ADDIE's Market, a small, used and restored furniture business

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Speaker 1: he set up earlier in the year. His main area

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Speaker 1: of expertise is furniture recovery and restoration, but what he

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Speaker 1: enjoys more than anything is hunting for new and interesting

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Speaker 1: pieces to work with. On weekends, it's common to find

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Speaker 1: personal property auctions, much like the one he is approaching

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Speaker 1: now that's September. One weekend, Kevin parks his pick up

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Speaker 1: in front of a modest sixties low rise house. There

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Speaker 1: he finds the usual group of curious onlookers and amateur

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Speaker 1: collectors poking around the bits and pieces that are stacked

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Speaker 1: up on the lawn. A cursory glance reveals most of

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Speaker 1: the items to be old and dated, suggesting to Kevin

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Speaker 1: that their owner has recently passed away. Although a little morbid,

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Speaker 1: it's this kind of sale that Kevin relishes, since it's

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Speaker 1: often when people die that the most interesting items become available.

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Speaker 1: Peculiar objects kept and treasured for years, once loaded with

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Speaker 1: After purchasing Lock twenty nine, a good mix of household furniture.

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Speaker 1: It's only when Kevin is loading the items onto his

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Speaker 1: A peculiar little cabinet unlike anything else in the sale.

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Speaker 1: Roughly a foot wide and just over sixteen inches tall,

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Speaker 1: it's made from a richly colored, if slightly scuffed, mahogany

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Speaker 1: and adorned on the front with two bunches of grapes

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Speaker 1: shaped from brass. Kevin recognizes it as a wine cabinet

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Speaker 1: common in Jewish households, often used as a ceremonial piece

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Speaker 1: for a number of Jewish rituals. I see you bought

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Speaker 1: the dibbook box. Kevin turns to find a young woman

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Speaker 1: woman explains, was one of only three items that her grandmother, Havela,

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Speaker 1: brought to America when she arrived from Europe after the

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Speaker 1: Second World War. According to Kevin, Avela was born in Poland,

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Speaker 1: where she'd lived before the German army invaded in nineteen

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Speaker 1: where she lost contact with her entire family. After managing

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Speaker 1: thought she purchased the strange box. Aveala would never see

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Speaker 1: the United States, she was able to build a new life,

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Speaker 1: at the age of one hundred and three. Moved by

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Speaker 1: her story, Kevin no longer sees the item as just

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Speaker 1: a piece for him to sell, but as something with

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Speaker 1: great history and weight. Without hesitating, he offers it back

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Speaker 1: to the woman. Her response is unexpected, No, I don't

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Speaker 1: want anything to do with it. Please, it's yours now.

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Speaker 1: Kevin is a little alarmed, but agrees to take it.

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Speaker 1: Why is it called a dibbook box? He asks. The

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Speaker 1: woman tells him that ever since she was young, her

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Speaker 1: Whenever the woman asked what was in it, her grandmother

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Speaker 1: was a dibbuk, insisting the cabinet should never be opened

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Speaker 1: under any circumstances. As for what a dibuok is exactly,

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Speaker 1: the woman isn't able to say, do you want to

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Speaker 1: open it with me, Kevin jokes. The woman's face darkens again. No,

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Speaker 1: Are you sure you don't want to keep it? He asks?

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Speaker 1: You bought it, We don't want it, says the woman,

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Speaker 1: rest of his goods. After arriving back at his furniture shop,

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Speaker 1: Kevin takes his new purchases down to the basement for logging.

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Speaker 1: Later that afternoon, with a few more errands to run,

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Speaker 1: A moment later, almost without realizing, she finds herself staring

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Speaker 1: It sounds like somebody is whispering to her. It's quiet

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Speaker 1: She pulls and rattles the bars, screaming for help. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Does someone hear? She keeps saying someone smashing the place up.

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Speaker 1: Before Kevin can make any sense of it, the line

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Speaker 1: Grabbing a torch from under the counter, he races down

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Speaker 1: Moving the torch about, is shocked to see that every

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Speaker 1: It's Jane, stuff you, says Jane, pushing asked him a stunt.

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Speaker 1: off his hands. You've been listening to Unexplained Season seven,

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