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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: George Nori with you with our guest, Tony Tapping. Tony

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Speaker 1: as a veteran UFO researcher and experiencer. He has been

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Speaker 1: involved with the UFO phenomenon, as I mentioned, for more

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Speaker 1: than forty years and has been deeply involved in a

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Speaker 1: complex intelligence operation between humans and alien visitors. His latest

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Speaker 1: book is called I Alien Memoirs of a UFO Spy. Tony,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program, looking forward to this. Hello, welcome,

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Speaker 1: Thank you George for having me on the show. It's

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Speaker 1: great to be here. How are things in the United

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Speaker 1: Kingdom these days? Oh? That, politically wise, very turbulent. Weather wise,

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Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous here in Southport in the UK, which means

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Speaker 1: that it's a very clear skies which is good for

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Speaker 1: filming the UFOs when they come in over the area

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Speaker 1: where I live. Tell me how you got involved in

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Speaker 1: all of this, Tony, Well, I initially I fell into it,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of like fell it falling into it.

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Speaker 1: The long is the wrong word. But I first began

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Speaker 1: in early childhood having mysterious visions. That's all I can

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Speaker 1: where I am now as to where I was back then,

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Speaker 1: because as a child of ten years of age, I

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Speaker 1: was wondering to us which is absolutely shocking, really, but

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Speaker 1: I was wondering to a scrap yard at ten years

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Speaker 1: we lived in a house with no bathing facilities, no heating,

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Speaker 1: and our side abuse was quite the norm, and so

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Speaker 1: that it began. Yet I was surrounded by these extraordinary

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Speaker 1: And then we started to cut along stories. George in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, having been to the Gates of Helen

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Speaker 1: back as a teenager and a young animal, with everything

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Speaker 1: coming in over the house for mysterious reasons, and we've

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Speaker 1: it's taken me years, absolutely years to work out what

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Speaker 1: exactly was going on. For example, the UFOs coming in

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Speaker 1: to work it out, George. So I've had interaction with

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Speaker 1: got even more hairs. And the book I wrote took

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Speaker 1: about three to four years because of the post traumatic

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Speaker 1: as was just horrendous, like you wouldn't believe. How did

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Speaker 1: you turn out the way you did to Tony? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you good guy. Yeah, but that's a good question, George.

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Speaker 1: A lot of faith, a lot of religious faith. For example,

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, I looked after my mother with dementia,

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. There was nobody else to help me.

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Speaker 1: I was the loneliest man in the universe. Twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: equally they're not all peace and like George, they're just

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Speaker 1: not all it's not all fluffy out there, as probably

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Speaker 1: It's taken me about forty years to piece it all together. George.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be with Travis in a couple of

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Speaker 1: months at a life stage show in Oregon. He's quite

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Speaker 1: I've also when we'll get into this, probably as the

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Speaker 1: So it's not all plain sailing out there, and we

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Speaker 1: this gets into a myriad I think of arguments, doesn't

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Speaker 1: If you went running around the United Kingdom asking people

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Speaker 1: I mean, for example, I've had business executives coming up

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Speaker 1: I've been abducted by aliens. I don't tell anyone, keep

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Speaker 1: So therefore you've got people who are keeping it quiet

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Speaker 1: Although the UK media it's been pretty good with them,

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Speaker 1: The invasion scenario Project Blue Beam is very complex. It's

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Speaker 1: not like that at all. They're not invading us. That's

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Speaker 1: that's quite It's down the doctor Stephen Greer again is

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Speaker 1: We're being warned, continually warned. Tonty. Do you know the

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Speaker 1: UK broadcaster Howard Hughes. Yes, I do know the broadcaster

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Speaker 1: Howard Hughes. I do, yes, certainly do. Have appeared for

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Speaker 1: all avenues to it. So is it a mental health thing?

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Speaker 1: I've concluded that my interactions are real. Have happened. It's

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Speaker 1: up on many an occasion with it. And yosanity is

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Speaker 1: be your friend for life. Okay, Well that's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: thing to say, George, Thank you very much. Now tell

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the UFO spy portion. Okay, may see, Well,

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Speaker 1: verify what you have seen. And it was an information network,

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Speaker 1: and it makes perfect sense because there was kind of

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe. One of them was a ship's propeller system.

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Speaker 1: Another one was arable farmland on somewhere else on another world.

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Speaker 1: What this was, George, was an information network and I

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Speaker 1: was like a server to it, a nerd, a gateway.

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Speaker 1: So they had established communication, possibly via consciousness, that kind

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Speaker 1: in real time with no distance. That's the bit that

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Speaker 1: trapped it with Escovs. It was a real time information highway.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, if you've got if you've got a

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Speaker 1: fascist junta that is covering up the UFO phenomena that

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Speaker 1: is telling you we're being invaded and that we do

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Speaker 1: not know what they are, honest governor, then you have

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Speaker 1: a clash of these alien forces, which is why there

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Speaker 1: is not so much an invasion but an alien called war.

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Speaker 1: And the actions of aliens concern aliens, So there's an

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Speaker 1: is not friendly, and it's that element that clash is

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Speaker 1: And humanity is having to deal with two things really

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Speaker 1: it's also dealing with the demonic angels and demons phenomena

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Speaker 1: as well as the biblical works have cited which are

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Speaker 1: quite correct, and that seems to be what it was.

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Speaker 1: So it was a time travel operation. The journals I'm

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Speaker 1: I've spent hours doing the imagery, hours doing the what

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Speaker 1: the aliens look like. I'm very proud of it. But

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Speaker 1: it took a long time, George, because of the PTFD

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Speaker 1: and the procrastination, and at one point, after my UK

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Speaker 1: doing just there, but nothing was happening. And then things

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Speaker 1: changed around. I've been very lucky of late, including an

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Speaker 1: appearance for your good self here. And that's the story

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Speaker 1: behind Eskovs. So Eskovs is in the book. It's an

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Speaker 1: I've written it as fiction to protect the innocent, but

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Speaker 1: it's based on true events, you know. Yeah, So that's

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