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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Christohne Hazel and this is the Keep It Positive, Sweetish Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Keep It Positive, Sweetish Show, the place

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Speaker 1: where we he'll grow and learn together.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is gospel artists and senior pastor Pastor Mike Jr.

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Speaker 1: Pastor Mike Junior is someone who many people know through

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Speaker 1: his music and ministry, but today's conversation is about how

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Speaker 1: face shows up in real life, from the impact of

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Speaker 1: Amen to his latest project, Confetti and Conspiracies. This is

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Speaker 1: a chance to hear how he navigates leadership, responsibility, and

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Speaker 1: encouragement without losing this humanity. Kiss Henley, please give a

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Speaker 1: very warm welcome to the one and only Mike Jr.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, PMJ.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here, man, It's a beautiful day

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Speaker 3: to day. I'm kicking in with you and keep it positive.

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Speaker 1: We've got to keep it always always, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like you exude that.

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Speaker 2: Your energy is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I was telling you before we started rolling this our

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Speaker 1: first time really like sitting down to have a conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I've been a fan of yours and watching you

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Speaker 1: win is like watching one of my own friends. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that I'm so proud of you. You've done so many

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Speaker 1: amazing things. How are you feeling right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, man.

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Speaker 4: I tell everybody it's been an incredible five or six years.

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Speaker 4: You know, twenty nineteen I kind of started singing and

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Speaker 4: then the career just takes off. But I tell everybody,

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Speaker 4: this is the first year that I've actually enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a trap. I think everybody wants to win.

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Speaker 4: They don't know the warfare that comes with it. You know,

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Speaker 4: when we look at the Bible, we see Joseph getting favored,

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Speaker 4: but his family had to turn on him. We see

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Speaker 4: David getting the crown, but his own daddy didn't think

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Speaker 4: he was good enough to be king. We see Jesus

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Speaker 4: conquering the grave, but he still had to be crucified.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of people see and our friend had,

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Speaker 4: our friend doctor Dearius Daniel says, this the front side,

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Speaker 4: which is the victory, but not the backside, which is

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Speaker 4: the pain.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's an.

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Speaker 4: Incredible year, and I feel good, and you know that

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Speaker 4: you get to a certain point where everything's slow down,

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Speaker 4: where you're winning, but it's not just the wins you enjoy.

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Speaker 4: It's the journey, yeah, and seeing how it impacts people's lives.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are making a huge imp I receive that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. So I know you're in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Are you originally from Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? All I really know is Birmingham, Army brat. You know.

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Speaker 4: So I was born in Tacoma, Washington, and my brother

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Speaker 4: was born in Germany. My sister Colorado. So but my

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Speaker 4: parents are from Birmingham. Okay, you know, Yeah, so all

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Speaker 4: I know is Birmingham.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Everybody always tells me, I can't tell you from Birmingham.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I need to break. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what camera I need to look at this.

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Speaker 4: We don't date our cousins. I actually got streets. I'm

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Speaker 4: not eating ham and pork like like Birmingham is thriving.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to my mayor around the wood that we

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Speaker 4: are killing it right now. Look Birmingham. Look at who

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Speaker 4: Birmingham has. They have me that's like, yes, we got mayor.

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Speaker 4: They was calling him mayor bay round. Yes, they're not

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Speaker 4: cheaper police going viral. They say, he fine, right now,

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Speaker 4: you're trying to make it sit like everybody in Alabama

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Speaker 4: got dating, they cousin and just got on overalls.

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Speaker 3: Like no, we got swagged. We say we.

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Speaker 4: Love God love. I love the ham Man two o five.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love the hem not ham Yeah, not the

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Speaker 2: port I love that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm from a very small town where Yeah, you might

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Speaker 1: see somebody dating their cousin.

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Speaker 2: I'm from Lord, Yeah, no from I'm from the country.

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Speaker 2: Country to get at. But no, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Take me through the journey of how we got how

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Speaker 1: you got to be where you are today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm a kid who just loved God. Like I'm that kid.

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Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance to run the streets. I

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Speaker 3: I was in.

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Speaker 4: Vacation, Bible school, and church every Sunday. I'm a pastor's kid,

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Speaker 4: grandson of a civil rights icon. He walk with doctor

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Speaker 4: I'm the irritating kid in Sunday school. They asked, who

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Speaker 3: I'm raising ooh, I know everything you know.

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Speaker 4: So now I started the church when I was twenty

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Speaker 3: I put twelve hundred seats out.

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Speaker 4: God told me it was going to be crazy, and

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Speaker 4: so at twenty five, I'm looking at all these people.

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Speaker 3: Who were like me, dying senseleously.

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Speaker 4: I turned to my father and say, I really think

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Speaker 3: He just might go for it. We put twelve.

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Speaker 4: Hundred chairs out and twelve people came. But we was

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Speaker 4: having the time of our life just preaching. So by

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Speaker 4: twenty five it was ten of us. By twenty six, man,

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Speaker 4: it's like a thousand, two thousand people, and by twenty

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Speaker 3: People in an arena.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who I am as a man, let

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Speaker 4: how to do, and we're just growing, growing and growing.

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Speaker 4: And I always wanted to sing. I would write songs

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Speaker 4: and record songs, and I never forget my I passed

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Speaker 4: to shout out to doctor Ari Vernon. He said, Mike,

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Speaker 4: God's gonna do something crazy in life, or do me

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Speaker 4: a favor. For ten years love God, love your family,

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Speaker 4: love your city, love your church, and the world will

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Speaker 4: come looking for you. So I'm sitting here like ten

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Speaker 4: years you done lost your mind. It's go time right now,

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Speaker 4: Like you ever got a word in church? And the

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Speaker 4: prophet was like, I need you to wait.

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Speaker 3: don't know why.

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Speaker 4: When he said it, it just hit my spirit. So for

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Speaker 4: ten years I had one of the fastest growing churches

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Speaker 4: in the world and nobody knew who I was. Like

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Speaker 4: I would get invited to be on TVN and invited

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Speaker 4: say and I felt like that was God through him.

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Speaker 4: I love God, love your family, love your city. He said,

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Speaker 4: in ten years, the world'll come looking for you. That

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Speaker 4: was two thousand and nine. Two thousand and eighteen, we

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Speaker 3: The whole city is ripped apart.

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Speaker 4: You know, for the first time in a long time,

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Speaker 4: I was Malcolm X in my city. If something happened,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing protests, we march it. It was almost a

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Speaker 4: thing like when passing Mike, find out it's gonna go down.

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Speaker 4: But for the first time I heard the Lord tell

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Speaker 4: me to be a bridge, you know. And the bad

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Speaker 4: thing about a bridge is it get walked on by

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Speaker 4: both sides. So the black people in my city are saying,

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Speaker 4: pastor Mike, you're not doing enough, you know. And we

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Speaker 4: get to the arena that Sunday. My city is so

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Speaker 4: mad at me that it's empty.

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Speaker 4: So in my heart, I'm like, this is it. It's

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Speaker 4: ready to see something I've never seen. And I walked

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Speaker 4: up and said, and it's gonna be big. That clip

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Speaker 3: Who clipped it. It was just crazy.

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Speaker 4: And I'm wrestling with anxiety borderline depression at the time,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you were singing, Sunny, but you

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Speaker 3: Wow. I call my guy say, hey, let's.

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Speaker 4: Make that a song we're gonna sing at that church

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Speaker 4: anniversary and the rest is history.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: But the beautiful thing about that is twenty nineteen is

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Speaker 4: the year being came out. That's ten years to two

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Speaker 4: thousand and nine, when my pastor telling me to wait

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Speaker 4: ten years. So somebody watching right now, they just trust

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Speaker 4: the word of the Lord God ain't done yet.

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Speaker 3: Delay. It's not denial.

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Speaker 2: Say that. I am a living testimony. It's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: The same year two thousand and nine is when I

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Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: To pursue music and acting.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until twenty nineteen that Sisters got green lit.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes, year, it's powering.

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Speaker 3: Those abilities ten fingers, ten toes.

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Speaker 4: I believe it. And I don't know who's watching right now.

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Speaker 4: They may be in their figurative ten years, you know

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Speaker 4: this is the year God's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna do everything I told my church He's gonna do

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Speaker 3: expeditiously and exponentially that He's gonna do a whole lot

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Speaker 1: And he will like I've seen it, like and it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: That, and you're like whoa.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's where you are right now.

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Speaker 1: This has been one of the biggest years of your

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Speaker 2: How have you been able to handle it all?

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Speaker 1: You know, all the nominations like congratulations, like literally get

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Speaker 1: the broom out man swept at the stellars, sweet sweet,

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Speaker 1: I caught that.

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Speaker 3: So good.

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Speaker 1: But like with that comes so much more And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand. Yes, we work for these things,

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Speaker 1: but when it comes, it comes with a different.

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Speaker 2: Type of way that we may not expect. Have you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this was the most prepared ever being though.

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Speaker 4: And I can't remember the first time I want Artists

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Speaker 4: of the Year, I didn't know what to expect when

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Speaker 3: Then I get in the truck, I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 4: My life in a change, Like I can't remember, like

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Speaker 4: in my head Oprah was gonna call I'll go to

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Speaker 4: the end of taller pair of moved like I just thought.

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Speaker 4: It was like, you know, because in your head I'm

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Speaker 4: it was this overwhelming anxiety of Okay, what do I

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Speaker 4: how do I do this again? How do I keep it?

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Speaker 4: What do I do next? And and the pressure hits you.

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Speaker 4: one thing to be creative, But if what you're creating

441
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Speaker 4: has no ecosystem, not a not an ego system, but

442
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Speaker 4: an ecosystem. And I think the reason so much stuff

443
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Speaker 4: we do works because it's not in an ego. I'm

444
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 4: not sitting there like I know what's best, I'm gonna

445
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Speaker 4: kill it. It's gonna be this so and so. No,

446
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 4: like I live in an ecosystem, you know. So when

447
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 4: we hit the scene, it was okay, what do I

448
00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 4: want to look like? I was like three hundred and

449
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Speaker 4: twenty pounds, you know. So then I was three hundred

450
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Speaker 4: and twenty pounds and I was like, okay, if I'm

451
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Speaker 4: gonna make an impact on gospel, I want to look

452
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Speaker 4: a certain way. I want to look a certain way.

453
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Speaker 4: So I start working out and eating healthy. I'm lying,

454
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Speaker 4: had I had the surgery. I had the surgery.

455
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Speaker 3: I'm lying. I couldn't even lie on it. I couldn't

456
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: even lie. I had to have a certain I tried

457
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 3: to eat right. It didn't work. It didn't work. I

458
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: call profetic. No, I dropped weight.

459
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Speaker 4: And then when it came to the look, I knew

460
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Speaker 4: what I wanted to look like, so no, call felipe g.

461
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Speaker 3: Then when it comes to the music, how do we

462
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Speaker 3: want it to present?

463
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Speaker 4: But even with the music, when I saw your video,

464
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: you and your workout, that's where we.

465
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Speaker 3: Wanted it to live.

466
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Speaker 4: Yes, I was like, I may not get invited on

467
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 4: a Sunday morning to do I got it, I said,

468
00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 4: But people who love God, we don't have nothing that

469
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: we can listen to when we want to be motivated

470
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 4: or when we go into the interview and when I'm

471
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Speaker 4: getting my mind right, So to see you in there

472
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Speaker 4: that made my day.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

474
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Speaker 1: I love that you talked about where you were mentally,

475
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: when it's going to be big came out, or when

476
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Speaker 1: it was conceived, the conception of it. I want to

477
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Speaker 1: talk about that because a lot of times people feel

478
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Speaker 1: like when you are a person of faith, you don't

479
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Speaker 1: deal with any type of mental health issues when it

480
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: comes to depression and creeping in. How did you navigate

481
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Speaker 1: that season and knowing that you were doing what you

482
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 1: were supposed to be in the bridge and how it's

483
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Speaker 1: like you feel like it kind of turned on you.

484
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Speaker 4: The biggest misconception about my song Big is I was

485
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 4: talking to people that song was me looking in the mirror.

486
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: I was the lowest I had ever been in life

487
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Speaker 4: when we did Big Wow. When I say the lowest,

488
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Speaker 4: the lowest, I'm talking about Christmas twenty eighteen, Christmas twenty eighteen,

489
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 4: Christmas twenty nineteen, I ain't have money to buy my

490
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Speaker 4: kids stuff. You know, I'm pushing this church and I'm

491
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Speaker 4: pushing the vision, and I've never really been a money preacher.

492
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 4: So even now, when you come to our church, you

493
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 4: probably won't even see me raise an offering.

494
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 3: A lot of times it was just bad.

495
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 4: Mentally, I felt like I was at my lowest Socially,

496
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: I had lost a lot of friends. Emotionally, I probably

497
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: was the most immature I had ever been, because you know,

498
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 4: when you're hurting, you start to blame, and a lot

499
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: of times it's hard for you to realize you're the problem.

500
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Speaker 4: And so when you look back at those lyrics, I

501
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: believe it's my season. I believe it's my time. I

502
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 4: anticipated in God's get rid of me, and so for me,

503
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Speaker 4: I don't think we talk enough about the pain that

504
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 4: comes with purpose. You know, the pain that comes with

505
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Speaker 4: purpose like this said, and everything I'm seeing you're doing

506
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: it here's so phenomenal. Like I remember was getting ready

507
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: to shoot a movie and I walked past here and

508
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 4: it was like, that's crystal spot.

509
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: I was like, what, But they don't know the pain

510
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: that comes with it.

511
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna walk by here and literally say, man, I

512
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 4: want that. They don't know the note. They don't know

513
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 4: how hard it is. They don't know how hard your teamwork.

514
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: You know, Like like to me, man big was an

515
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: anthem for so many people during that pandemic because I

516
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 4: believe we all were in the most we we were

517
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: all in the wilderness. We were trying to figure it out.

518
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: It's twenty nineteen.

519
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure Okay, my show just hit Now

520
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: what now? What now?

521
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: What?

522
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: Like, like what you're going to do the bubble for us?

523
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: And so for me, that's why I can say twenty

524
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: twenty five is different for me. You know, I may

525
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: have lost, I may have lost more personally than I

526
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: ever lost this year as far as socially like.

527
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Speaker 3: Friends and people and team.

528
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Speaker 4: But I feel stronger than I ever been, Like like

529
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Speaker 4: I'm at a place now where I can sit back

530
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Speaker 4: and say, Okay, God, I see you. Like even when

531
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Speaker 4: it's not going like you want it to, it's like

532
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Speaker 4: I see you.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see you.

534
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Speaker 4: Man.

535
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Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that. Yeah.

536
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Speaker 1: I had Tyler on and he had this analogy about

537
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: a rocket ship and when it takes I'm talking about

538
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: people who are ascending in their their star is rising.

539
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Speaker 1: And he said, Crystal, he's like, everybody can't go. And

540
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: he was like, think about when the rocket goes off,

541
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: it's the booster that fall off. So and it's so

542
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: hard because you want everybody to come and it's like

543
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: as you're going, it's like, dang, I just lost so.

544
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: And so, and like where is everybody?

545
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Speaker 3: You know?

546
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: And to let you know that you're not alone in

547
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: that That is just something that comes with success and

548
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: with everybody either they can't handle the elevation and the

549
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: altitude of where you're going, and then sometimes we got

550
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Speaker 1: prepared to get there.

551
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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you look at that rocket ship, it can

552
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: preach all all in and of itself. That rocket ship.

553
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Speaker 4: You got people in a tower. You can't go up

554
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Speaker 4: till give you a count down.

555
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Speaker 3: Come on, you know.

556
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Speaker 4: Then once they give you a countdown, they all watch

557
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 4: up like you said, and the boosters fall off. But

558
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: the beautiful thing about that rocket is they go up

559
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: in that rocket knowing they can't stay up forever. And

560
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 4: so for me, I guess that's where I am. It's like, Okay,

561
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 4: I'm up here. I'm gonna have to come down at

562
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Speaker 4: some point. So now the downs don't depress me. And

563
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: I think a lot of creators become depressed because we're

564
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 4: in that rocket and we're going up and now we're

565
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how do I stay up here?

566
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 4: You're not meant to stay up there. You know, think

567
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: about this, if your life was all joy, all peace,

568
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: all prosperity, if you went to a hospital, they would

569
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 4: say you flat line.

570
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: That's death.

571
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: Life looks like this medically, this is death and this

572
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: is life.

573
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Speaker 3: So if all I want to do is win or stay,

574
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Speaker 3: I can't. I gotta have rhythm. And so for me, man,

575
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Speaker 3: I'm just I thank God for it. Now.

576
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Speaker 4: That's why now, you know, and I said it earlier,

577
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: I just I'm gonna have to keep hugging my publichers

578
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: every time he called me, like he was like, hey, Mike,

579
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Speaker 4: I got not right now. And it's not because I

580
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: think I'm all that. I think it's like right now,

581
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: I see where God is taking us, you know, like

582
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Speaker 4: even when I look at my team, Like when I

583
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: look at my team, I see the doors God gonna

584
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: open for my publishing, the doors God's gonna open for

585
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: my manager, the door's gonna open for my team. It's okay,

586
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm finna have to stay in a spiritual place. So

587
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 4: when God elevated them, who praying for them? For them

588
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: and who are doing this? Because I can remember I

589
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 4: went to BT Awards this year, right, so I'm at

590
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: the BT Awards, so it's the it was the it

591
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: was the best thing in the world for me to

592
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Speaker 4: go to.

593
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Speaker 3: And I say that because people say you're passor a while.

594
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: Was that good for you to go to?

595
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know the level of impact I was having

596
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 4: because I never come outside. So literally, so so I'm

597
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: so my von is like, I want you to go

598
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Speaker 4: to I'm not going to that. Passion Mike, I'm not

599
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 4: going to that. I'm like, passion, Mike, please cool. So,

600
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: so you know, when you're standing in that line at

601
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: the BT Awards, it's like it's people who are celebrities

602
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: who ain't even celebrities no more because another celebrity came in.

603
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 4: So literally, it's so I'm standing there like your next.

604
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: Then this person walk can't step back, boom next man,

605
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm seventy five people back. I'm standing next to Glorial

606
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: like hey how you like, hey, how you doing like cool?

607
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: And were looking at somebody else. I was like, but

608
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Speaker 3: the best.

609
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 4: Part was I'm in the line and people looking at me,

610
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, man, I love your videos. I'm like, oh,

611
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: I'm thanking that. Another person walked up. My daughter love

612
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: a man I'm okay. So then the next pert, hey boy,

613
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: what's up?

614
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: Man? Hey boy, your tiktoks?

615
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: And so I went home like, hey, this is this

616
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: is making a difference. It is this is making a difference.

617
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 4: And when you do that, it changes your why come on?

618
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: So now it's like it's a lot of stuff you

619
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: don't need anymore now because you realize I'm.

620
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Getting to the heart of people right where y'are. So

621
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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

622
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Speaker 2: That's so true. I love that.

623
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Speaker 1: It's so funny because there's been times where I've gotten

624
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: pushed back in that life.

625
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: Two number one shows.

626
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Speaker 3: On pushback crazy.

627
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: How are we getting?

628
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, let me tell one funny story.

629
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: So I finally get on the carpet at the VG Awards, right,

630
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: and so we on the carpet, I take you know,

631
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: you take the picture how your stomach boom?

632
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: So then so Vun my publiciers.

633
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: He's literally like he's walking up to people trying to

634
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: get him to talk to me. But I guess he

635
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: don't want me to see. But I'm looking at her.

636
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: This lady said, I have passionate, he's not big enough.

637
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 4: I said, oh God, take like the church. Take me

638
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: back to the Stellars. I'm the man at the Stellers

639
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 4: take anyway.

640
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: They love me.

641
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 4: But it was so good because for me, like I was,

642
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: I was standing there when Ky Sannat told the people

643
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: if my if my boy can't get on, I'm not

644
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: getting on. I was standing there when the lady up

645
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: there said, hey, no, Kevin said he wasn't doing it

646
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: unless Kyle came. If we had that mentality and gospel,

647
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: come on, that mentality as people that when I get

648
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: through this door, I ain't I ain't coming unless he come,

649
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: I'm not.

650
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: And that's the mindset we need. Man.

651
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: So to see all those people in the hug, you know,

652
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: I can't remember who that was. I met in the

653
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 4: elevator and he gave me a big old hug.

654
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: I think it was play Playboy Cardi. Boy said, whoa.

655
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: It's like I said, Man, I'm praying for keep doing

656
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: your thing and y'all keep him safe. Said man, I'm

657
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: praying for you, and I'm sitting there.

658
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: So I get home.

659
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Speaker 4: I tell the boys I prayed real quick with Playboy

660
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: Cardi and the boys like yeah, you know. So for me,

661
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: I always wanted to be the person that when life

662
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: got thick for people.

663
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: I was a safe place.

664
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Come on, Yes, I love that, and honestly, it just

665
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: it's a reminder of how Jesus was a lot of

666
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: times he was in places like where are you with them?

667
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: Why are you going to the house and having dinner

668
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: with them? You're not going there to do what they're doing.

669
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: You're going there to be light. You know exactly what

670
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: he was. And I wish more people operated.

671
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: They don't get it. Threads is when I tell I'm

672
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: so tired of threads.

673
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: It's so missing.

674
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to judge and condemn. But if Jesus was here,

675
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: he would not be a rock city church. He would

676
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: not be a change. He would be on peach tree.

677
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: He would literally be at the bottom. He would be

678
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: investment in Birmingham. Yes, and so for me, man in

679
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, I'm saying, Lord, grace me with the

680
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: anointing to go to places people won't go. But here's

681
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: the crazy part. Not because those places are wild, yeah,

682
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 4: but because of the fiery darts that are gonna come

683
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: from people who should be praying for me. Come on,

684
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: And that's the hardest part. That's the hardest part. I

685
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: can tell you so many stories where I receive so

686
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: much love and places that I probably shouldn't have been,

687
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: and more hate and places I should have been, And

688
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: so we just got to get over that.

689
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: We do.

690
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, cause I've never really understood that,

691
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of especially in this climate,

692
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: so many of my friends and peers are searching for

693
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: hope and they are so turned off by the Christian

694
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: community and how we carry ourselves. Not boxing everybody in

695
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: but as a whole. We're supposed to bringing people closer

696
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: to us and wanting to christ to want to be

697
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: more like us and be like, yo, what is something

698
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: about them?

699
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: Like what they doing over there? Like they're really serious?

700
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: And I had one friend saying like, I look at

701
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: y'all and it's like, y'all just not really serious about it.

702
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: It's a lot of like, oh, yeah, I go.

703
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: To church on Sundays, but I'm in the club tomorrow,

704
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like living my life, however,

705
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to Then another friends like, yeah, I'm just

706
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: not really sure what I believe. And I do feel

707
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: like there's a lot you just preach on this Sunday.

708
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a recent clip about

709
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: how a girl come major coming from the club, you know,

710
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: And I do believe that like once you start to

711
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: learn more about God, you do kind of change the

712
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: way you dress.

713
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: But if you don't know, you don't know.

714
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: And you're not supposed to judge people based off that

715
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: we're supposed to bring welcome.

716
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: The men say, feel welcome, and then they'll.

717
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: Start looking like, Okay, wait a minute, So thisun was

718
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: suppsed dress it'reupposed.

719
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: To do, but not judging them and pushing them away.

720
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we pushed so many people away.

721
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: It's a lot of great Christians out here. Like I

722
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: tell everybody, you only hear about the planes that crash,

723
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: not the ones that land come on and so a

724
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: lot of times the Church and Christian get a bad

725
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: rep because we hear about the ones that crash, not

726
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: the ones that land. And so for me, man, it's

727
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: some incredible churches here in Atlanta, some incredible churches all

728
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: over the country. But I think what happens now is

729
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: I feel so sorry for the new school Christian because

730
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: they're being condemned by the church and their peers so

731
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: so so so we said something with Grandma said something.

732
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: When she was in church, she would say, please be

733
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: patient with me.

734
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: God ain't through with me yet, right.

735
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: But there's no patience now, man, there's no patience now.

736
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: Like I got this one young cat that we inbox

737
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: a lot, and he watched me every Sunday. Every Sunday.

738
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: He's gonna send me a video in my inbox, and

739
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 4: I promise that he might be smoking weed every Sunday. Ap,

740
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 4: you killed that today, Bro, you killed that the day

741
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: and I played it one time. I never get the

742
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: person in my office, Like, I can't believe he sent

743
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: you that like that. I said, One, he's watching church. Two,

744
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: he's trying to get closer to God. Three and his

745
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: state is legal. Come on, I said, So, how are

746
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: we gonna condemn him? And so for me, that's what

747
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: I don't think we need to.

748
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: You can't.

749
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: You can't evangelize and criticize at the same time. And

750
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: so for me, I'm trying to walk this fine line

751
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: of Hey, guys, I love God. I'm serious about my faith.

752
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: But then I think a lot of people are like,

753
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: I love God, I'm seriously about my faith.

754
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: But I want to go out with my friend.

755
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: I want to do so and so, and what I

756
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: tell people now is it may not be a sin

757
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: to go there, just know it may kill your witness.

758
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: And that's the danger.

759
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Now, it's not a sin to go out, it's not

760
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: a sin to put on a nice dress and go

761
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: kick it with your girl. You just have to decide

762
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: now is this going to kill my witness? And when

763
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: we just fine, what your assignment is and what your

764
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: purpose is, that determines where you.

765
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Can and can't go.

766
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: So it ain't about not it's not about being fake.

767
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: It just kills your witness.

768
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: It's almost like somebody like right now we get done

769
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: taping and then big dogs say, man, here go a cigar.

770
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: And I grabbed a cigar and we sit here and

771
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: we got a Bible open.

772
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: All we do is talking about God.

773
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: Smoking a cigar not a sin, but to somebody who

774
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: may be unbelieving, it may kill my witness. So that's

775
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: why sometimes I get invited places people want me to

776
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: do certain features.

777
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: They want me to do something like.

778
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: As bad as I want to do that, yeah, I

779
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: don't want that to kill my.

780
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: Witness, my goodness, you know.

781
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: And so that's that's the thing.

782
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: But I think when you say it like that it

783
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: makes more sense than you fake.

784
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

785
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: So for me, like I learned that lesson the hard way,

786
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: you know, like I tell everybody, it's a lot I

787
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: wish I could get back.

788
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: You know, I was young.

789
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: And and you know, when you first get saved, you

790
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: you hell five you sire boy?

791
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: You walk around? Don't cuts around me, don't don't. Don't

792
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: you do it? Put that out around me? Don't you

793
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: do it? You know how you first get saved?

794
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: You ain't want to interview nobody, your manager telling you?

795
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: Am I talking to it?

796
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: You?

797
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Hey, when you first get saved? Oh my hey, we

798
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: got soing something?

799
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: No no, oh no, oh no oh no, we're not

800
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: doing that.

801
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: That was me.

802
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: That was me, Like, because when you first get saved,

803
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: all you know is how to be religious. You don't

804
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: understand the depth of your relationship. And so when so

805
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: the first thing you do is you change your clothes.

806
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: You know, things I used to do, I don't do

807
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: no more. Now your girl you got you got on

808
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: the whole tune, you hot, you got on a.

809
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: Whole turnel neck. Right, you got to be saved, hear me?

810
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: And so now I think there's.

811
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: A generation attack right now, but now it's a generation

812
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: who like, I don't want to look like that, yes.

813
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's what it was for me.

814
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: It's like and even like, I'm so happy to be

815
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: to your wards bringing it back. They made it formal

816
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: tire because everybody was naked and I was one of them,

817
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, thank you Lord. We got some

818
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: clothes on, and it was like, can I be set apart?

819
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: And that was part of it, like love fashion, Yeah,

820
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: but I am hot right now.

821
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

822
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: But to me, it's like that, like I'm gonna tell

823
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: you something nobody knew and I'm gonna give you an insight.

824
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: Right when we got ready to drop bid, it was

825
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: in the system as p m J, my mute pastor

826
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 4: Mike Junie was gonna be the preacher. PMJ was gonna

827
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: be the artist, and I'm sitting at home right and

828
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: they was like, no, we gotta be PMJ and shout

829
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: out to my team.

830
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: They were so prophetic.

831
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: They said, you're gonna be one of the biggest gospel

832
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: artists in the world.

833
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: And if they called you past.

834
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: To Mike Junior, You're not gonna be able to walk

835
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: in certain rooms. I was like, Okay, we'll be PMJ.

836
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: I called back two days they said, I want to

837
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: be pasting my junior. And it's like, I said, I

838
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: want them to know who I am when I walk in.

839
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: And so now I think that's where we are. And

840
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: I don't mind taking shots now because I'm realizing the

841
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: grade of gold, you know, Like even the clip I said,

842
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: if they if that girl walked in my church half

843
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: naked and I walked up in Huggard, the first thing

844
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: you know that he must be sleeping well, or the

845
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: first thing they gonna say. Or And for me, it's like,

846
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: because I'm in the trenches, you know, I talked to

847
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: drug deals. Somebody got it and noticed I ain't say X.

848
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: I talked to people who ain't out the life. Yes,

849
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 4: who say passing my baby Mama made me start watching,

850
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: and I like, literally we were laughing today. Because I

851
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: want to change my phone number. I don't know if

852
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: I can, like, because I'm the type of person that

853
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: I get an inbox. Two days ago, this lady inboxed

854
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 4: me my son twenty two. He's still in the streets,

855
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: he said, but he always sending me your tiktoks. Wow,

856
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: I said, yes, man, I said, what's his number? She's like,

857
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: you're gonna I said, bro, and literally standing outside fool

858
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: y'all ain't gonna be this end word on the phone

859
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: like and I'm just sitting there looking like what up.

860
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, man, we be watching your TikTok. Bro,

861
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: you be God damgno.

862
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: And I'd be like, man, I said, your mom hit

863
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: me up. He was like man, he walked off to himself.

864
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: I said, man, you know what you're doing is only

865
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: one way that's gonna end, right, maybe two?

866
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: I said, the second option is a blessing.

867
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

868
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: He's like you right, you said, But I said, man,

869
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: what you want to do? And then I'm sitting there

870
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like, look, this is my number.

871
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: You hit me? And he texted me what one time?

872
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: Like, bro, pray for me and to me though, that

873
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: that's what God called us to be, not these mega

874
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: passers that that that by default, because a lot of

875
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: people watch us, we became. But when you meet certain people, man,

876
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: you got to reach them where they are. And I

877
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: just I just don't want to be that. I can

878
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: tell you going to hell, but are you gonna? Even

879
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: Jesus fed him before he talked to him, and in

880
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: essence he met a need. So for me, you know,

881
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: I want to be comfortable in places people want go.

882
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: You know, I want to I want to be able

883
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: to say, hey, I had to perform in Houston one

884
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: time and we in there. When I tell you, I

885
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: knew I was going to hell. Like I knew I

886
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: was going straight to hell. Like here we in Houston

887
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: and it's got dang. It's people on stilts, like ladies

888
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: on stilts dancing and everybody drunk. Just during the pandemic.

889
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 4: Everybody drunk in Houston. They supposed to be in their cars.

890
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: They supposed to be in their cars, right, and they

891
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: like it's a concert. I'm like, why am I here?

892
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: There was like we act the station in the station.

893
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 4: Everybody stations that they want to pass some mic. So

894
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 4: I'm talking about they ended the person before me, put

895
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: your mother, and I'm like, I'm like I'm next.

896
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: They're like you closing.

897
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: I'm like Jesus and God rest us all. The Senator

898
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: came up gave me like the key to the city.

899
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: And then I got to say, y'all ready anybody loved

900
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 4: God every and this back when they had to blow

901
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: their horn because couldn't nobody get out of the car.

902
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: Everybody got out the car in a pandemic came to

903
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: the front of the gate. I end up praying for people,

904
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: hands lifted, people, tears and they eye and I'm sitting

905
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: there and I'm like, had I been religious?

906
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: Out Of'm like that ain't no place for me. But

907
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: let me free.

908
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: You do firemen run to the fire, all away from

909
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: the fire. So if I'm light and their darkness, yes,

910
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to sit back and be like, no, they

911
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: gotta stay dark or do God assign certain people to

912
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: go into those places? And I think it starts with

913
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: a certain level of transparency, and you got to have

914
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: a level of freedom. Yeah, and that's why I say, God,

915
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 4: grace me not from what's gonna happen in darkness, but

916
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: from all the people who got light. Yeah, and that's

917
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: the problem.

918
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are preaching. I said all that to say

919
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: you don't have to wear a turnle neck.

920
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. You know it's I'll be in Miami

921
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: all the time and my friend y'all come down. I'm

922
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna do a birth day and my friend's wife she goes. Now,

923
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: you know that's the first lady, She's like, you can't

924
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: wear that around her? And then I feel like I

925
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: had on the appha with my back. Guy, she goes,

926
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Chris had her backout today.

927
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: I thought you were saved, Like I can't with outfits listen,

928
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: Like that's crazy that girl.

929
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: You are so funny.

930
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: No, literally, like and I think it's also when I

931
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: be fasting, but like certain things are distasteful to me now,

932
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: so like because I like.

933
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: Stop like I was like I said language and.

934
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my, you know, because certain things are

935
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: more sensitive to my spirit now than before. I working

936
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: in costumes in the TV and film industry, sailor like

937
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: and you're around there all the time. So like my

938
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: mouth was so bad and work I'm still working at

939
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: sometimes like I don't cause like I used to, but

940
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll get upsetting, It'll come out.

941
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: And it'll like be that what you gotta get to

942
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: the point I cussed an instantly, God forgive me, forgive me.

943
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Literally, I'm like.

944
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: And see, I'm gonna say this too though, like even

945
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: with you, like you're telling language language language. I think

946
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 4: the people who you interact with daily should become more

947
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: like you. And you've become more like christ.

948
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: No, seriously, that's how it's know Mike literally my other

949
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: manager saying, she was like, because you because I did

950
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: an interview while I was fasting.

951
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: She never do that.

952
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I was like literally in tears the whole interview because

953
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: like I was just open and I left and I

954
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god.

955
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: I was like, was that too much? Like what did

956
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: I say? Because it's like a yeah, literally, I was

957
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: saying so Christal would have never said.

958
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: God was like I got for you today.

959
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I got you, yes, And she was like no, because

960
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: you I read my Bible in the morning. She said,

961
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm doing this and like she said, but I wasn't

962
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: doing that before I.

963
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Started working with you. Wes going to church reading his Bible. Herman,

964
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: same thing. We're going through fifty fifty two weeks in

965
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: the Bible.

966
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: Because and it's like people ask it she really like

967
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: who She's like, No, that's really hers, you know, like

968
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: she's really who she is. But no, you're absolutely right,

969
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: And I see it. It's reflection all around me.

970
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: And so when I say things like the people who

971
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: interact with you, so to somebody watching who saved, but

972
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: you got a lot of people around you.

973
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: The people who interact with you.

974
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, should grow, but you shouldn't be at a place

975
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: where you can't be around people who have not started growing.

976
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: Yet, exactly.

977
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: And that's that's what I'm saying now, Like when you

978
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: go on that movie set, you don't have the I

979
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: don't need you on a movie set like this movie

980
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: ain't saved. I need you on that said bringing ten

981
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 4: people out with yes. And that's where I believe God

982
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: is doing right now.

983
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Man.

984
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: Even in the industry, you're seeing it.

985
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: Man, You're seeing more and more rappers talk about God,

986
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: more and more R and B singers sing about God,

987
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: and athletes now in their press conference talking about God.

988
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: I got.

989
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: I have so many athletes now who inbox me and

990
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: they be like pee man like And it's crazy because

991
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: I thought I thought people were watching church, but they'll

992
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: get that forty second clip then go find a sermon

993
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: forty seconds and so now they hit me. I just

994
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: did Angel Reese's podcast and I told her, I said, man,

995
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say the same thing to you. There's

996
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: a generation of young girls who need an example.

997
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: And that's who God calling you to be, exactly.

998
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: And that's when I say, now you have to ask yourself, Okay,

999
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: does that, even though it's not a sin, does it

1000
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 4: kill my witness?

1001
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: Because I don't think we realize.

1002
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: Sometime I had a conversation with a couple and they

1003
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 4: were going through a lot. Man Is, one of their

1004
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: children came out to them and so they were it

1005
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: was a lot, like when I tell you it was

1006
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: a lot, And I asked, I asked them, I said,

1007
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: what did you deal with when you were growing up?

1008
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: He's like, man, I was out here, I had fifty

1009
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: eleven women, YadA, YadA, YadA.

1010
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: I was doing X y Z. I said, can I

1011
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: free you real quickly? He said yeah. I said, well,

1012
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: you know that's lust.

1013
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: I said, So what you're saying is when you were

1014
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: coming up, although you slept with a whole lot of women,

1015
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: that's lust. I said, So, if we're really talking about

1016
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: generational you can't determine how lust shows up in the

1017
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: next cycle exactly. I said, So you might need to

1018
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: have a level of grace. And so for me, I

1019
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: think if all of us had this level of grace

1020
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: for every person in their personal walk, and that's where

1021
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: I catch hell at right there, because it'd be like

1022
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: Pastor Mike you're doing too much?

1023
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: But is he not deserving of love? You know what

1024
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like, is he not deserving? Is she not

1025
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: deserving a love?

1026
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: I asked myself sometimes if this were to happened to me,

1027
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: how would I treat it in my house? I start

1028
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: being so religious in the streets and so for me, man,

1029
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: I think there's a remnant of Christians who are rising,

1030
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: who are unapologetically saved, but they have this heart for

1031
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: people like never before and the patience to help them

1032
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: as they grow.

1033
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I did La Craze podcasts a year ago.

1034
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: That's my dog, but I got well, I say, drug

1035
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: through the mud because I wasn't where I am now

1036
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: in my walk then. And I think that's what people forget.

1037
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: They forget the journey of walking with Christ. It's like

1038
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: what I was okay with doing two years ago. I

1039
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't dare do it now, you know, because I've grown

1040
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: with Him and I revere him and I fear him and.

1041
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: I take it very serious. But people forget that they

1042
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: weren't saved all their lives. And it's like the grace.

1043
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: If we have the grace and also the memory to

1044
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: remember why I ain't always been like this all my life,

1045
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: so let me have grace to pull them with me.

1046
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, I've been where you are, Like,

1047
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: I know what it feels like to lust and to

1048
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: want to have these urges and do these things and

1049
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: actually do them.

1050
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: You know. I actually got on TikTok today.

1051
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: I've been a year abstinence, celebrated my one year and

1052
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: version of abstinence, and I was very open. I was like,

1053
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times we don't talk about

1054
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: we talk about, oh, yeah, I've stopped having sex and

1055
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: this is great, but we don't talk about them days

1056
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: where we like struggling. And I was like, and there's

1057
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: signs where like there's other things you have to let

1058
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: go of as well. And I said, and I failed

1059
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: it those days, I said, I held onto the absence.

1060
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: I said, but now I said, six months, I'm good

1061
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: on that. I said, But I said, if you fall,

1062
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: don't give up. Just get up, I said, because a

1063
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: lot of times we make it seem like, oh, you're

1064
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: done because you said you were doing this and you

1065
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: feel and yep, you're out of there. Like no, get

1066
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: up and keep God knows your heart. Get up and

1067
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: keep trying, and I think that frees some people today.

1068
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: They are like, oh my god, thank you. I'm gonna

1069
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: keep I'm not gonna give up. I'm gonna keep going.

1070
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: Failure is so powerful.

1071
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: Like I was sitting down with a group of people,

1072
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 4: because everybody sees all my wins, they say things like, man,

1073
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: you're killing it, Stellar's, Grammys, dumbs you Church everything, You

1074
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: got a million fucks, and they like, I said, but

1075
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: I failed too, Like one of my biggest failures in

1076
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: the last two years is how I handle the situations.

1077
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: You know, there was a situation I had one time

1078
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: where I didn't feel like I was being treated a

1079
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: certain way. And so, you know how you're knew in

1080
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: the industry. You don't know nobody, and you start feeling

1081
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: all these things, and then people in your ear telling

1082
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: you this person said that and this person did this,

1083
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: and then you start paying attention nobody, and so now

1084
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: you get defensive and you get aggressive, and now you

1085
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: start you start firing your shots back. And I said

1086
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: some things online about Ti Trivin one time. I'm like,

1087
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 4: he shouldn't have did it, He shouldn't have did YadA

1088
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: yadda at the court.

1089
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: That's my hero.

1090
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: I said it every time, like that's the only artist

1091
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: that motivated me to do everything.

1092
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: That was my goat. That was my goat.

1093
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: I won the award, and I told everybody to night

1094
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: I won the award like everything you see me doing

1095
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: was a reflection of two people tied Tripping and Ken Jones.

1096
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: Those are my goats, you know. But out of pain

1097
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: and hurt and then people in your ear saying this,

1098
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: and now now you get out there and you say

1099
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: something and now boom, Then I end up having apologize.

1100
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: But I potentially damaged that relationship forever.

1101
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's in his own right

1102
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: to never speak to me again if he'll want to,

1103
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: you know.

1104
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: But but what I try to show people is that

1105
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: yes you see these winds and yes you see that,

1106
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: but I've gotten it wrong.

1107
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Come so many times.

1108
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: You know, even when it comes to my sons, like

1109
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 4: my oldest son, he kind of feeling itself. At one point,

1110
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 4: before I know it, I'm yelling, I'm fussing, I'm cussing

1111
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: like I'm still young. You know how he looking at

1112
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 4: me lifting weights now like I'm looking at her looking

1113
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: at him.

1114
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: And then I had to come back.

1115
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: But I told my church, I said, I failed at this,

1116
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: I said, but I went back in that same room

1117
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: as at Xander. I'm sorry, I said, Dad, just it's

1118
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: hard for me, you know, And it was like I understand.

1119
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: So I think if more people would share their failure.

1120
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: I wish I could get that moment with tie back.

1121
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: You know, I wish I could get certain things, but

1122
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: I wish I could. I wish I could go back

1123
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: and not do this. I wish I could go back,

1124
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: but since I can't, here's the thing, beautiful thing about failure.

1125
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 4: If I tell you how I failed, I just gave

1126
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 4: you speed, because the experience isn't the best teacher, it's

1127
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: the hardest teacher. I just told you in ten seconds

1128
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: what it took me ten years to learn. So now

1129
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: you can be better than me faster. And so for me, man,

1130
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 4: I'm in this season now, especially in twenty twenty six,

1131
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: it's like I want everything God God for me now

1132
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm in a place where I

1133
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: can handle not just what comes with it, but the

1134
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: ripples of what it calls. And that's what we don't

1135
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: talk about, you know. We know about the light that

1136
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: come and the fame, but it's the ripples. It's the

1137
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 4: it's the not realizing that the moment you got saved

1138
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 4: and got serious, you don't even realize.

1139
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: People stop calling.

1140
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 4: Or it's the ripples like oh, she's saved now, or

1141
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: the boom, she ain't doing that now, we can't have

1142
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: fun with you, ain't fine no more, or you.

1143
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: Realize this is gonna bless you.

1144
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: It's another group text, like whoa, when did y'all get

1145
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: another group text?

1146
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: All right now? And like what's going on? I don't know. Yeah,

1147
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad.

1148
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I absolutely absolutely, it.

1149
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: Is all right. That's so true. Gosh, Yeah, you're so right. Yeah,

1150
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: and it's okay.

1151
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: It's okay, we're gonna be all right.

1152
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: We are because I'm learning now the best version of

1153
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: me is sometimes the isolated version of me.

1154
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. You know.

1155
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: When I tell you I'm having the time of my

1156
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: life right now, I'm back playing my PlayStation. Me and

1157
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: my boys, got our group thread. We be sending memes.

1158
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 4: You know, the people around me I really believe.

1159
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: Got my best interests out.

1160
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: I also got a circle now that when I want

1161
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: to be wild, I can be wild, and wild for

1162
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: me ain't bottles and and we wow. For me is

1163
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: I just want to watch something laugh, you know, like everybody,

1164
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: I don't care who you are. Everybody saved. Got seven

1165
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: screenshots of means they can't post. I just need two

1166
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: friends who can let me send that. That's wild for me.

1167
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: I'm out there now, like I'm out there now like hey,

1168
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 4: because we so say you know you Yeah, I just

1169
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: need to because.

1170
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: I can't post it.

1171
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: But I'm to say I can't post that, but it

1172
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: don't mean I ain't liking it.

1173
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: And everybody just need to be honest, be honest.

1174
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: And so I got a group now where I can

1175
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: literally be like boom yeah.

1176
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: So now man, I think, but that's balance. Think about this.

1177
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: Even when it comes to sound, if I was to

1178
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: put my hand over the mic, it messes the sound up.

1179
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: So you would have to take that audio to a

1180
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: person who can eq it. So if you're gonna have

1181
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: a good circle, that circle should be the EQ to

1182
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: your life. You know, somebody who lets you get your high,

1183
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: but then somebody who handles your low, somebody in your

1184
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: trouble you can keep you balanced.

1185
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: So I'm in a good place.

1186
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1187
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: I love that.

1188
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: PMJ Man I have enjoyed this.

1189
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna close out the episode with positive outcomes.

1190
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: And this is when our audience members right into us. Okay,

1191
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get all right. So let's see. This

1192
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: is from Shashi White.

1193
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: She says, how do I handle those shifts in my

1194
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: friendships as I grow spiritually, emotionally and gracefully without hurting

1195
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: anyone's feelings? Wow, that's kind of what we just talked

1196
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: about shifts, because it happens honestly without hurting anyone's feelings.

1197
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: That's impossible.

1198
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, some feelings will get hurt, even when you don't

1199
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: mean to, when it's not your intention.

1200
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: Shashi, I would say, as you're growing, the people who

1201
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: are supposed to be around you will cling to you.

1202
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: The people who are not will fall off, and hopefully

1203
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: at some point you can be the light how we

1204
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: talk about whatever that is to draw them back to you.

1205
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't worry about hurting people's feelings when you're

1206
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: growing closer to God.

1207
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your intentions are here.

1208
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 4: I would tell her, like you said, not worried about

1209
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: hurting people's feelings when you're trying to get closer to God,

1210
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 4: but also making sure you're not contributing to the feelings.

1211
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: So that's when I was talking about that grace. Like

1212
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: I had a homeboy who hit me last night, probably

1213
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: like one o'clock.

1214
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: You doing chilling. He was like, man, we don't talk

1215
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: no more.

1216
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: He said, I'd be willing to hit you, but you

1217
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 4: know you you like passing my junion big, big.

1218
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: Time, like he's.

1219
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 4: Man you like, And I was like, nah, I said, mat,

1220
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 4: I say hit me trying to be funny. I'm still

1221
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: the same, Like it's YadA YadA, YadA, you know. And

1222
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: then but the kind of you can almost see a

1223
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: relief come off of them because it's not just people

1224
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: always think when I get saved, it's not hurting people

1225
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: from feelings from your from you being saved and your success,

1226
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: because I also believe there's a level of success that

1227
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 4: comes when you get in God's will, and so a

1228
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: lot of times people can almost kind of detach and

1229
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 4: project what they're feeling on you. And so what I'm

1230
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: trying to do now is make sure I don't contribute

1231
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: to it.

1232
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: Right, that's so good.

1233
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: You're gonna make me feel bad because I'm saying I

1234
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: don't need to do that. Man, I understand that's different.

1235
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: I know I was the life of the party because

1236
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: some of us saying that we was really good at it.

1237
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 4: We got to talk about that now we were really

1238
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 4: good at it. Now you was out that glimpse of

1239
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: yours a minute ago, you said.

1240
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: Because I was that girl out. If I'm a I

1241
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: was the party.

1242
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: Like when I say the party, when I got the era,

1243
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: Michel Mike like, so now it just ain't the same.

1244
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: But like I tell him, if you come over here,

1245
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 4: I'm still the life of the party.

1246
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's better. Over it.

1247
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: It is better.

1248
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited.

1249
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm the same way.

1250
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm still a life of the party, but in a

1251
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: different way and different way.

1252
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: Not invite people. They already know. It's gonna be a

1253
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: good time, good food. You can still have your drink.

1254
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: Whatever we're gonna do.

1255
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm not partaking it, but we're gonna have space, we're

1256
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,479
Speaker 1: gonna have good fun, and we're gonna go home.

1257
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: But it's like you just you grow and you mature.

1258
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, if I'm still doing what I was

1259
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: doing five ten years ago, are we really growing?

1260
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: Are we really you know?

1261
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: And I think that's just a shift, and I would

1262
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: tell her you shifted baby girl from being the thermostat

1263
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: the thermometers into the thermostat. You know, now you set

1264
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: in the temperature, so it's gonna get hot. I'm gonna

1265
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: leave this quote. My son said me because he loved

1266
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 4: DC young Fly. I don't get hot in that kitchen. Yeah,

1267
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: but they still gonna have plates.

1268
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: So let him get through their feelings. Let them go

1269
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: through it and just love them through it.

1270
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: I love it.

1271
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Is there anything that we I

1272
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't even read the cards with you. I was like, so,

1273
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: is there I don't know what we're supposed touch on.

1274
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I hope we touched on it.

1275
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: Is there anything you have coming up that we can

1276
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: support you with?

1277
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: A man, just support everything pastor like Junian music and

1278
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that. I'm not sure if it's the

1279
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 4: air during the Grammy window. If you're a Grammy voter,

1280
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: that'd be great. But more poorly, man, just continue to

1281
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: share the messages. You know that that means the world

1282
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 4: to me, you know, like it means the world to

1283
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 4: me to take the gospel, which is the good news

1284
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: the places that people never thought they would go, you know,

1285
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 4: and if you don't mind.

1286
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: If you're watching right now, you don't know.

1287
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: Jesus, Man, falling in love with God is the best

1288
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: thing I've ever done. I heard a person say one time, man,

1289
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: I can't wait to be successful. I'm gonna drive a Bentley.

1290
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: And I looked at him and told him even if

1291
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: Bentley needs an all change, which means it's possible to

1292
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: be saved successful and still need another dip. And if

1293
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: you watch it right now, man, wherever you are, man,

1294
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: you can just say, Lord, come into my heart. I

1295
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: am a sinner in need of a savior. I confess

1296
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: with my mouth. I believe with my heart that you

1297
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: rose from the dead with all power you and and

1298
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: right now you're not just positive, you saved. And that's

1299
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: the greatest decision you can make in your life. That's

1300
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: what means a lot to me.

1301
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you man, that was beautiful. Thank you so much.

1302
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: Listen anytime you want to come back, Yeah, please come back.

1303
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: This is amazing.

1304
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come back. But we're not gonna act like

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes ago. She didn't just say I was talking

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Speaker 4: to Tyler. That was fine, that blessed me, that never

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Speaker 4: left me. I'm prophesied that's gonna be my conversation. But

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Speaker 4: you know, me and me and Drake were talking and

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Speaker 4: we were we were just talking about the great thing

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Speaker 4: on the jet.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking. No, I can't wait to come back.

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Speaker 1: That's a blessing that I could. I was just talking

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Speaker 1: to Tyler. It's so funny because I'm talking like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to Brock.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's levels. I'm just talking to his level,

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Speaker 3: his level.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so sure, thank you. This is phenomenal. Yes, thank

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Speaker 2: you guys. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that was such a powerful conversation and a reminder

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Speaker 1: that faith doesn't have to ignore reality to still bring hope.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for tuning in to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie, don't forget to subscribe,

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Speaker 1: Share this episode with someone who could use a little positivity,

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Speaker 1: and remember, as always, stay blessed, stay encouraged, and.

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Speaker 2: Remember to keep it positive. Sweet I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. I'll see you next time.