WEBVTT - Unfair Penalty 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.760 Hey, everybody. Ay, me and TJ here in studio, and 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:11.280 we are never thought we would take up an entire 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.200 podcast talking about a friend of ours that was prompted 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.120 by headlines we read in the morning. That sounds crazy, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.120 but that's exactly what happened. We got up this morning 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.560 and we happen to be recording this on the Monday 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.800 after the NFC AFC Championships, and we started seeing headlines 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.520 about a very dear friend of ours. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.920 That's right. We watched the playoff games all day yesterday, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.000 all night into the evening, and then went to bed 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.200 and woke up and said, wait, what did we miss? 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.840 It was, actually, you know, when you're open your phone 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.839 and the Apple feed straight out that something about our 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.120 dear friend, Michael Strahan. And we were confused because we 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.960 watched as much as we thought we were supposed to 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.680 and didn't see anything that would warrant a headline. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.320 I hate using that word triggered, but it was something 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.760 about this particular series of headlines having to do with 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.120 straight hand and most of you be listening to our 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.280 voices know it had to do with the postgame ceremony 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.280 at the NFC Championship game between the Lions and the 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.320 forty nine ers. So we started seeing these headlines. I 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.640 don't want to misquote them. I think you have them 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:15.600 in front of Yeah. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.800 And I actually this is actually a little painful for 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.640 me because I'm not a fan and I know you're 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.560 not either of reading clickbait, but that is what this 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.880 is because of the words they use. Okay, yeah, I mean, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:35.840 but it's just using words like butchering, brutal, ripped, you know, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:40.959 just all of these adjectives or ways to describe how 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.640 he handled the postgame celebration giving the trophy over to 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.720 the forty nine ers, And so we thought, oh my gosh, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.640 what did he do? What did he say? 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.720 We have to watch? We were like legitimately concerned, like 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.680 there was such talk about it, and the words that 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.520 were used were so strong, so aggressive, that we were 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.760 terrified that, oh, my goodness, what has happened. So we 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.160 went back and watched it. Because we didn't watch it 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.240 live because the game had been decided. We turned it 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.160 off earlier and moved on to something else, so we 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.720 did not see it live. So we went back and 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.800 watched it today. And your reaction act, Okay, your reaction 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.720 after watching it when I queued it up this one. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.880 I said, huh, I mean, I don't understand what all 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.400 of the fuss was about. I don't understand all these headlines. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.280 And I actually went and did something because it. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.760 Wasn't about us. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.640 I felt a little safer reading some of the comments. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.080 And if you read these comments, I mean, that's what's brutal, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.680 that's what's rough. So I was expecting something terrible. I 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.760 was expecting something just that would be jaw dropping, And 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.600 what I saw was, you know, an excited, a little frenetic, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.040 a not perfect in a live event moment where someone's 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.000 trying to be the leader of you know, a three 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.520 ring circus, is it ends up being I think, you know, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.560 we know what it's like, not at that level, but 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.440 in general, to be on live television and to have 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.440 to not only interview one person, but maybe interview five, six, seven, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.639 eight people after some huge historic game where everybody's hyped, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.359 there is so much chaos. There's probably there's confetti flying, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.200 there are fans cheering, there are you know, tiers of joy, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.480 tiers of set, and just there's so much chaos going 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.000 on to have to then focus and bring this all 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.680 to a live audience is no easy task. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.400 And he did it, by the way, and he did 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.800 a good job of it. I would argue, right, there's 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.680 a misstep and this time you just said something. You 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:44.960 said you it's not going to be perfect. It's live TV. Yeah, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.840 that's exactly what live TV is. Y. None of it's perfect. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.880 That's what actually makes it kind of interesting. Sometimes it 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.320 was perfect, it'd be boring. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.280 It would right, but no, straight and we went back 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.160 and watched I think we might. I've queued it up 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.960 a couple of times this morning because I didn't know 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.200 necessarily get it. And to some degree, we're talking about 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.760 this because it was for us quite personal, given our 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.320 longstanding friendships and close ties to Stray over the years. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.160 So we're always watching him, always rooting for him, especially 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.640 in his football coverage, and so it is not a matter. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.880 And I don't want to call it unfair. If you 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.839 put yourself out there, you're in the public spotlight, and 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.279 especially when you do what he does sports. There's nobody's 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.920 crazier than sports fans when it comes to talking and criticizing. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.000 But this was it was He might not even be aware, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.520 but it was. It was uncomfortable and painful and unfortunate 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:51.000 to see what was coming at him over what was 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:56.719 clearly just a ceremony. It wasn't anything egregious that the 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.200 man did. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.479 Yeah, I mean, I would actually encourage anybody, especially if 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.680 you've seen the headlines or read any of the comments, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.680 to go back and actually watch what happened on live television. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.080 And I do think there are some things that we 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.760 know what it's like when you're in that position, like 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.920 Michael Strahan, people are in your ear, they're telling you 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.640 move on. There might be time constrictions, So a lot 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.240 of people complain that he didn't let Joe Montana speak, 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:23.919 and there was some issue as to whether or not 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.560 he should have. Who knows what the producers were telling 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.200 him to do or what they weren't telling him to do. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.960 I mean, that's the thing that people don't realize when 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.320 they're watching. You're not only trying to remember everyone's names, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.360 all the questions you're supposed to get to, all of 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.560 the people you're supposed to congratulate, thank and recognize, but 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.320 you also have a producer in your ear, very oftentimes 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.880 giving you time cues, hurry it up, move past. We 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.760 don't know if the producer said, hey, we don't have 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.719 time for Joe to speak, but just get him to 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.960 get the trophy to who it's supposed to go to. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.279 And those are the types of directives you're getting in 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.919 your ear while you're thinking, while you're dealing. And I 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.520 know this is our job, and I know you're paid, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.640 you know, really good money to do and excellent, But 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.440 I just wanted there to be some of those maybe 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.880 inside details that people don't realize. You have a lot 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.719 of things going on at one time while everyone's watching. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.479 I'm thinking about all the times and the coordination and 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.120 the things that are necessary. And first of all, Stray 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.919 does not need us to defend him. No, he's fine, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.400 And this is not some bull throated defense of Stray. 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.720 It was just interesting to read the headlines this morning 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.680 that didn't match what actually took place on television. Another 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 point is he got the assignment late. This has been 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.200 done for decades by Terry Bradshaw, who was under the 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.320 weather and wasn't a part of the coverage. He usually 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.800 does this, so Stray didn't find out. She maybe got 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.160 twenty four hours notice tops, but he didn't. This is 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.200 not his regular gig. Still, I can't say this enough 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.840 straight did a good job. Yeah right, and he did 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.039 a good job. He's a football player, former, I should say. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.960 But he gets up there and he was still being 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.160 his hype man. He is excited that he's at a 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.920 football game Andampionship was just one. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.440 People were complaining that he was yelling, and it was like, well, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.240 I mean, you're in a stadium, a major event just 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.960 took place, and there's a lot of noise. So he 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.680 had a microphone, yes, but he was probably talking over 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:12.800 a lot of noise. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.440 And there you go. So Joe Montana was staying so 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.000 I of and you know this, this was my wheelhouse 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.640 in what you say, in my former life. Yes, these 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.120 big live events to where they come to you as 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.040 soon as they say your name and you're live. You 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.679 got so many things to coordinate. I have literally done 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.440 stories where I start live in a basement. I have 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.120 to walk upstairs on live television, go up, not just 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.120 straight up the stairs at the stairs, whip around. So 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.440 I gotta go up two separate flights. I gotta get 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.600 to the top. I gotta surprise this guy whose name 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.560 I have to remember, the organization he's a part of. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.880 I need to remember the director over here, his daughter 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.920 over here. I need to remember the name that's donating 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.840 to this man, and I have to remember how much 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.800 they're donating, and I have to remember to thank certain 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:56.320 people at the. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.360 End and do it all in a very specific amount 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:58.840 of time. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.120 With somebody in your heart. You're saying, ninety seconds, wrap 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.720 it up, you wrap this whole thing is happening, and 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.440 you damn right. I have messed up somebody's name. I 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.120 have probably gotten a little loud because somebody was in 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.000 my ear talking all you're. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:20.440 Talking talking in your ear right, everybody, just everyone just jumped. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:21.640 Sorry about that. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.080 If you're listening with AirPods, that probably was a lot. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.840 But that's what happens on live television. Note when you 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.560 get done, you go wow, I wish I'd have done that, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.160 or I forgot to mention the vice president of the 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.839 organization or you some little thing. But that's just how 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.640 TV goes. So maybe we can sympathize one because it's 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.280 a friend of ours. Also certainly empathize because we've been 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.880 there and done that and it just bothered us so 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.720 much to see how he's being dragged like nasty stuff. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.360 Not just nasty one thing. Somebody will say, come on, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.680 why didn't you let Joe speak? Why do you let Montana? 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:03.280 I don't say that. It was over that, over that. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.200 And I asked you because I mean, I like to 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.560 watch sports, but I'm not deeply invested in it. I 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.839 don't watch all of the sports channels like you do. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.560 And I asked you, I said, are sports fans? I 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.680 mean I've heard it, you know, just people talk about 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:23.200 sports fans being really really invested in passionate. But you 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.640 can see the badj is making passionate. I'm going to 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.040 say that in a positive way. But these types of 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.480 fans sports and politics. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.000 Us, Yes, that's it. You don't want to you don't 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:34.240 want to. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.440 Piss anyone off in either one of those genre. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.040 Doesn't matter what you say when it comes to sports. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.439 I could. I could put out a message on social 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:46.319 media today that only says Michael Jordan was good at basketball, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.320 and I will get negative comments, you idiots. I will 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.920 automatically get bad It's just how it goes. Uh. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.040 And you you mentioned the forty nine Ers fans and 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.559 something about Strahan not picking them. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.600 I mean some weep were taking issue with him weeks past, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.800 like an earlier coverage of the season, like he didn't 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.680 or he said something they didn't like about their team, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.440 or he wasn't completely positive about the team or support, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.920 or maybe he didn't pick them that we all that 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.400 stuff comes back, so it ends up being a little 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.440 it's a little silly, but this one we genuinely. I 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.920 asked you first thing is wanted, like did you see this? 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.400 What happened? You were like, oh my god, what did 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.840 he do? Did he perform a ritual killing on I mean. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.199 It seemed like maybe he killed someone and that's kind 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.600 of where it was. That's how awful it was apparently. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.240 So anyway, we were very relieved and puzzled a little 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.000 bit once we actually saw because I thought, why was 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.760 that so bad? What? I'm confused? Anyway, Like you said, 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.920 straight does not need us defending him. We just felt 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.600 compelled to say something. And dude was a Giants player. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.160 He knows what the fans are like. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.640 He really really aware. 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.480 I remember him telling me like, whoa, there was just 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:58.800 some cities that were tough to play it. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.760 I mean, he gets it. He gets it better than anybody. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.120 And again, this isn't a we are out here in 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:11.240 this public spotlight. There is going to be criticism that's 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.120 okay and understood, and you're not looking constantly for praise, 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.520 and sometimes you get constructive criticism. Over the years, I've 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.440 changed things before I've been on live TV. Somebody complained 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.440 about a graphic behind us. Some people were writing in 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.599 being nasty and saying and somebody say, hey, it's a 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.000 little distracting when the da da da da da. I 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.520 said it to my director live on CNN. They changed 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.840 the graphic. That stuff happened. That was a criticism that 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.160 came a certain They didn't say, hey, what bleeping idiot 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.280 made that graphic behind you? They should be fired. That's different. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.679 There's a way to give, as you say, constructive criticism 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.840 or to have an opinion. It just doesn't have to 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.640 be so nasty, right, Okay. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.680 We say nat this was just vicious over what was 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.160 essentially nothing. We get it to a certain degree. But 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.600 we started talking today about this morning, like if someone 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.200 could have seen that thing I did on TV, if 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.199 because he did it on a stage. I don't know 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.040 what the viewership was last night, but one of the 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.720 largest thoughts I've probably never been on TV with an 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:10.880 audience that large. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.160 I know I haven't right. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.240 I have done things throughout my career and messed up 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.120 on TV to the point that I never thought I would. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.000 I wouldn't. I didn't want to come back the next day. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.920 I'm so grateful that I started out my career in 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:38.320 nineteen ninety five, that is before YouTube or actually was 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.319 the internet even. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:40.680 Around that was the internet. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.080 If you have to ask, I'm telling you that if 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.439 it had been recorded like those early days, oh my goodness. No. 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.400 I have actually forever been grateful that social media did 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.959 not exist, Twitter did not exist, nothing. So any mistakes 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.520 I made were made in front of a very small 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.400 audience who hopefully have forgotten, and it hasn't been recorded, 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.800 and if it was, it was on tapes that can't 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.840 be played on any current Now. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.760 What did you do? What was your mistakedy? Can you 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.520 remember a mistake? A legitimate not just stay we but 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.040 somewhere you were solely responds when you messed up almost 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.520 to the point of embarrassment, well on TV. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.160 So the story that stands out the most to me 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.200 was my first job in Charleston, South Carolina, and they 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.000 actually made a Christmas reel of bloopers for the newsroom 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:23.640 at the Christmas party at the end of the year, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.800 and I was highly featured, and in fact, they kept 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.679 going back to the thing that I did that was 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.280 the most embarrassing. So I am rushing to the scene 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:37.280 of an alleged plane crash in Orangeburg, South Carolina, and 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.320 I get there just in time for the eleven o'clock news. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.959 I was an alleged There's a reason why I say 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:43.320 it like that. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:44.480 Just you wait. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.600 So Russ McCaskey of w CBDTV two Action News came 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.960 to me. This was my first, like real live report 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.280 where something was happening ongoing. I had no script, I 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.040 didn't know what was happening, and I did my first 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.240 report and I thought it was pretty darn good. I 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.000 gave an assessment of what was happening. They were searching 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.920 for the wreckage because several people had reported, you know, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.120 fire in the sky streaks. They said it must have 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.960 been a plane. So when he came to me at 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.880 the end of the eleven o'clock newscast for an update, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.320 and there was no update, So Russ McCaskey asked CUB 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.840 reporter Amy roboch Amy, is there any new information to report? 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.920 And I said on live television. No, Russ, there is 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.280 no new news to report. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.240 You told me this story before. I don't. That was 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:34.560 not your fault. You gave an honest, accurate assessment of 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.040 what the hell was going on. There was nothing news. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.480 I was honest to a fault, and everyone died laughing. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.840 I was so embarrassed. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.160 I couldn't recover. I was stammering then at that point, 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.120 and I just quickly threw back because I knew I 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.920 shouldn't have said that, and then I couldn't get out 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.200 of the hole I had dug for myself. And by 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.360 the way, it turns out, there was not a plane crash. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.240 There was nothing to report. Again, every time I hear 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.760 that that is accurate. He you never that never had 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.640 you know what? That's not your fault. That was would Market? 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:07.880 Was that again? That was Market? 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.240 One of seven Charles in South. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.440 Caroline, So everybody was learning. So you had a lot 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.200 of inexperienced people, and what that producer was supposed to 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.520 do is what, hey, do you have anything? They ask 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.520 you that in your ear before I say, oh, she's 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.000 got nothing, then we don't come to it. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.240 So I could have just described the scene and said 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.440 it's ongoing. The search continues. I didn't need to say 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.080 there is no new report. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.720 What time is news on Local new lately? 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.040 That was the eleven o'clock news. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.160 So it's eleven to thirty and you're ready to go home? 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.000 That is very true. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:36.520 Get out of here. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.160 I went home with my uh yeah, with my tale 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.520 between my life. I was so embarrassed, and no one 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.960 let me forget it. It was continually brought back up 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.040 for my entire time that I worked there. And you know, 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.120 I learned my lessons. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.880 I am always looking for ammunition, right, I'm always looking 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.280 for something you use against you. This isn't one of them. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.400 This is actually one that was I Actually I get. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.080 Read in the face thinking about it now. Still, how 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:02.480 about you? 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:09.200 Oh, I got a lot. The most inmbarrassing. This is 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:14.240 the most embarrassing I can remember is top five market. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.560 I just made it to San Francisco's five number five 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.400 market at the time KNTV out in the Bay Area. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.240 I had been there less than a year, maybe a 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.720 matter of months, but it's a big deal. I was 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.760 the five o'clock anchor, so it's a big deal. Always 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.200 to fill in on the main show at eleven o'clock, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.640 Big deal, made it top five market. I'm twenty six, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.160 twenty seven years old, about to fill in for the 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.000 main guy at eleven. This is my moment. It's hatving it. Okay, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:47.880 So the show is starting, the music's going, prompter starts rolling. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.640 I'm sitting next to my co anchor. Now, of course, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:55.000 the prompter has all the stories you're gonna be reading through, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.640 but at the top there's kind of a template that's 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.480 never changed, and the names the anchors or the tag 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.520 for the show stay in there and don't get touched that. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.320 It wasn't touched for the new guy who was filling in, 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.720 so the names and the teleprompter were still the names 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.520 of the two main anchors and not the fill in guy. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.639 I see where this show starts. Homegirl says good evening. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:28.359 I'm blah blah blah. I say, good evening. I'm Alan Deentton. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:36.080 What did you do? Did you start to last? 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.600 So? Did your coakers start to last? 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.040 I is the first broadcast that I ever did where 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.280 I was physically under the news desk the whole time? 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.720 Is this why you ever read the prompter? 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:48.040 Now? 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:49.720 You know what you make? You the point I don't 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:50.359 trust it. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.320 It's true. So I was always in awe of you 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.560 because all of us would write our scripts out, we'd 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.439 put them in prompter and we're in the studio and 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.080 we'd read our script from the prompter. You never did, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.800 And you could have a minute long intro that had 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.040 lots of details and numbers and things you don't want 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.920 to mess up, and you preferred to memorize it or 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.399 have it in your head versus read it from the 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.360 prompt and that might be the root cause of it. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.400 Trauma is what it was. It was trauma. I don't 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.040 even trust my own name, but yeah, they left it 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.520 in there. And I said, I think I stumble over 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.920 and eventually said my own name, but I read fully 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.400 and I didn't say Alan. I catch it. I said, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:30.479 I'm Alan Denton. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.040 Did you and Alan Denton ever talk about this? 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.879 I don't know. I don't think I ever looked at 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.400 him again. No, it was fine. And you know, he's 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.600 a I think he's maybe twenty plus, maybe even thirty 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.560 years older than I am. White dude, blonde hair. We 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.000 do not even funny air, you can mix that up. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.639 So we have moments. Everybody has a moment on TV, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.040 and some of them you can laugh at. But I 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.480 don't know to encourage people to give folks a break, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.639 to give folks just a just a little break on times. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.639 I know, it's social media and it's how it is. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.440 It's not what you should expect. It just we shouldn't 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.239 expect people to be kinder in those situations. But it 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.240 was just it was just weird to see the headlines 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.640 and then go back and watch and go what the. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.520 Hell when it comes to dealing with those types of opinions. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.439 I remember I once had a friend who was a 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.920 co anchor at MSNBC, and I'm sure, I'm oh my gosh, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.719 I made a million mistakes. And there was one day 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.679 I was beating myself up and he looked at me 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.679 and said, hey, Amy, you know what, it's just television. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.640 We're not saving lives. You're gonna be fine, and so. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.919 Is the audience. And to that point as well, you 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.879 need somebody to get in your ear like that. And 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.920 I was reminded, man, thank god, you get to come 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.560 back and do this tomorrow, because there are some right 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.320 these guys lost a football game yesterday, and some guys 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.560 had a bad game, and they're getting talked about in 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.440 a really vicious way. They have to wait until next 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.480 season to get back out there and try to prove 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.520 themselves or try to do better. And we we do. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.919 We work in an industry that does allow for you 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:05.639