Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses malone check check check. Yeah, we're finna get
Speaker 1: to it. An emergency broadcast. You feel me for today
Speaker 1: because uh, it's some unprecedented, unprecedented things that's happening in
Speaker 1: hip hop. Crooked Cam, they've been in hip hop before
Speaker 1: I even thought about getting this thing we called the
Speaker 1: record business.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 1: They they've they've Yeah, they've been in this thing for
Speaker 1: I even thought about being a rapper anything. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure this is a first for them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure this is a first for them.
Speaker 1: So we go really get into this conversation really quick
Speaker 1: soon as still pops back on here so we could
Speaker 1: adjustice screen. But it's definitely one of those days.
Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 2: Did you read up on it?
Speaker 4: I read up on it a bit, and I don't
Speaker 4: know that much in this particular area of civil law,
Speaker 4: but I know this much. When a rap beef bleeds
Speaker 4: into the course, I'll put my money on the half
Speaker 4: Jewish guy every single day and twice on the shops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith is gonna work out for him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he Jewish Enough's cotton the rock.
Speaker 5: At the hard Place.
Speaker 1: I think you've played against the real This ain't the
Speaker 1: South Bay Lakers. He played against the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1: It's a different game. It's a different game.
Speaker 5: Up here with the real Unsino Lakers.
Speaker 1: Still is slowing the stream down? Come on still? Where
Speaker 1: you at?
Speaker 2: There you go?
Speaker 3: There you go. I was looking.
Speaker 5: You're a great You never looked at you.
Speaker 2: You put it on your phone instead?
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I want to put it on my phone
Speaker 3: when he tell be playing.
Speaker 2: Around we got that bad audio happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know what. I don't know what it is, broke,
Speaker 3: but I ain't never done that before anyway.
Speaker 1: No Silings live the Lunch Hour. No, no, this is
Speaker 1: the podcast. We're just doing it live. This is an
Speaker 1: unprecedented time in hip hop, in rap music. Some of
Speaker 1: this stuff never in life happened. I cannot believe this
Speaker 1: is happening. This is an important time. So I brought
Speaker 1: some really special people. I brought Crooked Eye, and I
Speaker 1: brought my big brother Cam. I brought my brother Pete,
Speaker 1: and I brought Stell so we could really unpack this thing.
Speaker 1: Because I've been talking to my homeboy lit Pappy, he
Speaker 1: Poppy is driving me crazy. It's silliness and people are
Speaker 1: not being honest about what they are witnessing. Cap you
Speaker 1: should be in court right now. You should be in
Speaker 1: court right now because you are in a battle.
Speaker 2: Somebody should sue you.
Speaker 3: He lawyer.
Speaker 2: The reason we are here is Drake. Drake has soon.
Speaker 1: He accuses you MG and Spotify of manipulating the market
Speaker 1: to artificially inflate Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us.
Speaker 1: The court filing claims un GU, Spotify, and Apple Serie
Speaker 1: to push Not Like Us over Drake tracks. Employees perceived
Speaker 1: as lawyer to Drake were allegedly fired as part of
Speaker 1: an effort to cover up un g's action. UMG paid
Speaker 1: influencers and radio stations to boost Lamar's songs without disclosure.
Speaker 1: A whistleblower revealed Box generated thirty million early streams for
Speaker 1: Not Like Us. Drake is accusing UMG and Spotify of
Speaker 1: violating the RICO Act and a New York law h
Speaker 1: I mean so bad he decided to sue his own
Speaker 1: label that they are both signed to.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Listen, Crooked, listen, Cam, y'all have been in hip hop
Speaker 1: for sure, big Bro, you've been in hip hop as
Speaker 1: long as I can remember. Yeah, Crookeet, you've been in
Speaker 1: hip hop at least thirty years for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. Now not at the professional level, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was professionally signed in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, but I know it was getting close to
Speaker 1: when Cricket I was getting his first record deal around
Speaker 1: not within that six seven years. Is this by far
Speaker 1: the greatest distract of all time? Just at least off
Speaker 1: of the reaction, off of the behavior. See I know
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to g he said the greatest, greatest.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I can agree with you
Speaker 1: on that, big Bro. It's the biggest. It's the biggest
Speaker 1: to ever.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, well, it had you know,
Speaker 6: the table has been set for it to become one
Speaker 6: of the greatest disrecords ever because we are in the
Speaker 6: social media technology streaming era, and the globe is connected
Speaker 6: in ways that the globe was not connected with some
Speaker 6: of our favorite disc records.
Speaker 7: Drop, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So the table is set for it to be one
Speaker 6: of the greatest, if not the greatest, this record.
Speaker 7: And let me just put this out here.
Speaker 6: Same day that it dropped, I went on record on
Speaker 6: my Instagram same day and I said, Kendrick just dropped
Speaker 6: the top five disc record of all time.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And they can go back and check my Instagram same
Speaker 6: day a drop because.
Speaker 7: I understood the frequency he was on.
Speaker 6: I understood that he was touching a nerve and he
Speaker 6: was moving the street culture in a way that you know,
Speaker 6: once the youngins in the streets get something, it's very
Speaker 6: hard to stop, you feel me. So he did that
Speaker 6: and I recognized it right away. So yeah, I ain't
Speaker 6: mad at that.
Speaker 1: Set me bro, big bro, you you you released this
Speaker 1: tracks in the history of West Coast music, one of
Speaker 1: the most scathing disc tracks, like like hot acid, burn
Speaker 1: skin off your body.
Speaker 8: Mmhmm.
Speaker 9: I think man, I think it's the greatest man. You know,
Speaker 9: every every generation had a had a sound that they
Speaker 9: think is is tight, you know to the youngsters. Now
Speaker 9: we might sound out dated or something like that. So
Speaker 9: this is the language, just the vibe. This the frequency
Speaker 9: that the youth is on, and the youth always run revolution.
Speaker 9: You know, you got older here is like like myself
Speaker 9: might be behind the scenes trying to trying to give
Speaker 9: guidance to them. But the youth gonna do what they're
Speaker 9: gonna do. You know what I'm saying. The youth is
Speaker 9: gonna they gonna run it. And uh, from what I
Speaker 9: can see, this is this is the greatest dis record
Speaker 9: of all of all time.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, what.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if if Q would.
Speaker 8: Assuthe you did?
Speaker 2: But I mean it happened, na.
Speaker 3: Big bro.
Speaker 1: You you you saw Hupac. You saw hit him up
Speaker 1: up close and personal. Yeah right, like still you saw
Speaker 1: hit him up close, up close and personal. You saw
Speaker 1: no vassiline. You were coming into your adulthood around that time.
Speaker 1: You know, you was barely hitting twenty. You saw ether.
Speaker 1: Have you ever saw a dis track that made somebody
Speaker 1: react like this? You even saw fifty this job ruthe.
Speaker 3: Man, this is the worst. This is the craatest dis
Speaker 3: track of all time. It's almost like he's pulling this
Speaker 3: dude in Gona.
Speaker 8: Tell absolutely this dude is crying.
Speaker 3: Man, this dude is really sad right now. And I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you what it is. This dude is almost
Speaker 3: just being overwhelmed right now. Man, Kendrick, You know, not
Speaker 3: only did he slapt him around with the record, but
Speaker 3: then he comes out with one of the greatest albums of.
Speaker 2: All time, is a really great album.
Speaker 3: So this dude is just like, he's just discombobulated right now. Man,
Speaker 3: i'ma be real with you. I'm really worried about Drake
Speaker 3: right now. Man, I'm thinking about calling my people because
Speaker 3: they didn't even play with I think he's something from depression.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 3: This dude might mess around, timp off a bridge or something.
Speaker 9: Man, he need that wellness check. Man.
Speaker 5: Well, Canadians are not a wartime people, and that's not.
Speaker 3: What I'm I'm being dead serious. I ain't joking, man,
Speaker 3: Drake is going through something right now, and ain't nobody
Speaker 3: in this camp man enough to tell a man you're
Speaker 3: looking real crazy right though? Man, you think he cares
Speaker 3: about you?
Speaker 6: Think he cared about the optics, because I'm sure when
Speaker 6: you are a big a brand as big as Drake,
Speaker 6: everything that you do is well at least communicated amongst
Speaker 6: your team. So they had to understand that it would
Speaker 6: be some backlash. Even though we in a different era
Speaker 6: like this era, It's been proven over the last decade
Speaker 6: that a rapper can damn near do anything and if
Speaker 6: he drop a hot song, it'll be forgiven.
Speaker 3: He fuck, he don't drop a couple of duds in
Speaker 3: the road. Dog, it's over with Dog.
Speaker 4: I think this is different, like the house has been
Speaker 4: burned down. Like I in the first seventy two hours,
Speaker 4: I was like this song not that beyond the verses,
Speaker 4: I haven't heard this track that had to hook it
Speaker 4: like rocked, like in the club and shit like that.
Speaker 4: But besides that, what Kendrick did. He kicked Drake out
Speaker 4: of a community. He did that in seventy two hours.
Speaker 4: He made him walk that they were all at they
Speaker 4: he made him walk the plank and he's trying to
Speaker 4: sue his way back onto the boat.
Speaker 7: So so do you think so do you think that
Speaker 7: is uh?
Speaker 6: That his personal community that he's built up, that's a
Speaker 6: pretty big community. I mean when I'm on when I'm
Speaker 6: on Elion's Act, they already saying he not suing Kendrick,
Speaker 6: He's swing. UMG, this ain't about the rap beef. This
Speaker 6: is about business that he has a lot of people
Speaker 6: already forming that perspective and trying to push that narrative.
Speaker 3: You gonna understand this was right for He's like Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: He like the Backstreet Boys. You go ahead, the little
Speaker 3: fan based like Beyonnest they got to be he go ahead.
Speaker 3: The drinks whatever they call these, the drinks. You have
Speaker 3: the tricks in this corner like ye. But I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you, man, I heard this man's.
Speaker 7: Mom even locked him out the house dog.
Speaker 8: He's this.
Speaker 5: This is the of getting knocked out and then like trying.
Speaker 4: To readjudicate whether or not the guy had juiced up gloves.
Speaker 6: I think, I think the I think what's gonna happen?
Speaker 6: You got a worst case scenario, in the best case scenario,
Speaker 6: best case scenario. They they don't they they don't even
Speaker 6: entertain this. Somebody in his ear telling them to go
Speaker 6: on ahead and drop that. Don't even proceed to try to,
Speaker 6: you know, pursue that worst case scenario. This shit worse
Speaker 6: than Epstein list dog.
Speaker 7: Because what's.
Speaker 6: What's gonna happen is is everybody every like Box. To
Speaker 6: the people out there who are not inside the industry,
Speaker 6: they might think, wow, somebody using Box, But everybody in
Speaker 6: this room right now understands that Box and AI gets
Speaker 6: used all the time for some your favorite artists, most
Speaker 6: of your favorite artists, your artist, your favorite artists might
Speaker 6: not even.
Speaker 7: Know that it's being that Box are being used.
Speaker 6: It ain't like Kendrick is sitting at a computer in
Speaker 6: a farm with a thousand devices, so it don't it
Speaker 6: don't touch him anyway.
Speaker 7: But the whole thing is all these people using bots.
Speaker 6: So the domino effect and the blowback of trying to
Speaker 6: bring all this to the forefront, and you're gonna bring
Speaker 6: down some of the biggest artists known to men, and
Speaker 6: then the whistleblower doesn't usually come out clean on the
Speaker 6: other side of that, you feel me, So this could
Speaker 6: be something like this is only the tip of iceberg.
Speaker 6: Y'll like, this man is pishing in the wind, though, Bro,
Speaker 6: you don't think he's using box.
Speaker 7: Man, Listen, he might not think he using box.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Bro. His upress, his upress and
Speaker 3: his arrogance probably got him thinking I'm the greatest. I
Speaker 3: don't have to that's really believe me. The hot blind
Speaker 3: bling and all that stuff got bots on him and stuff.
Speaker 8: On it too.
Speaker 4: And why would he think because he said they're both
Speaker 4: on the same label, So why would he think that
Speaker 4: his own label only uses boss for the other guy?
Speaker 4: And not for him, because he's the label.
Speaker 5: For doing it.
Speaker 8: Hey, I think he keep on playing with Luci and
Speaker 8: Grange and then he's gonna.
Speaker 5: Be That's all I was about to say.
Speaker 4: I think Diddy's behind this, because now Diddy has the
Speaker 4: second most interesting trial.
Speaker 1: And some Crooked said, this is why I've been saying
Speaker 1: he's not hip hop, right, because there's a thing that
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, right, Cam who is one of
Speaker 1: the best of us, right, the Nation of Islam cleaned
Speaker 1: him up, got him together, Stell who's a father and
Speaker 1: a husband and does great things, and Crooked who's been
Speaker 1: in this business. We all still worry about the optics.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about being street. Street don't mean you
Speaker 1: actually have to commit a crime. Street means you protect
Speaker 1: your reputation differently because you come from a level of
Speaker 1: poverty and you need to keep your reputation intact. Every
Speaker 1: last person on the stage not named Pete definitely overvalues
Speaker 1: their reputation, and that's the cornerstone of hip hop. Gee, However,
Speaker 1: many episodes ago, you asked me why wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: get into fights in high school?
Speaker 4: And what did I say? Too hard for me to
Speaker 4: get my dad suit.
Speaker 1: So this is what I told him, Krook, I said,
Speaker 1: if you want to know if your hip hop is
Speaker 1: really simple, the first hip hop lesson most people get right.
Speaker 1: The first hip hop lesson is the first time you
Speaker 1: go to school and somebody put their hands on and
Speaker 1: you come home and you tell your mom and your father, Hey,
Speaker 1: somebody put their hands on me. If your parents say
Speaker 1: you better hit them motherfuckers back, your ass is hip hop.
Speaker 2: If you outside of your house.
Speaker 1: And your friends saying you better hit them back, that's
Speaker 1: hip hop. You know why, because hip hop is not
Speaker 1: worried about the rules. The street is a greater sense
Speaker 1: of justice. The street culture is a greater sense of justice.
Speaker 1: We understand justice ain't on our side, so we have
Speaker 1: to take justice in our own hands. That's a cornerstone
Speaker 1: of street, urban culture, hip hop.
Speaker 2: That's something we all share.
Speaker 1: I don't care if our mom was a nurse like
Speaker 1: my mom, cam whatever your mom did, whatever your mom
Speaker 1: feel me quote whatever your mom. Yeah, you better hit
Speaker 1: him back. That father, somebody say hit him back. Didn't
Speaker 1: nobody tell you to go tell the teacher?
Speaker 11: No one place.
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, donna hit him back. Go
Speaker 2: tell the teacher tell the principal.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, my mama would say, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get in trouble if they get you in trouble.
Speaker 8: Mm.
Speaker 2: So I was to peat that, and I asked Pete to.
Speaker 1: Prove it, and Pete said this fire told him you
Speaker 1: better not hit nobody back.
Speaker 2: I don't need no reason for nobody to sue me, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And and the worst fight I saw in high school,
Speaker 4: some dude got his block knocked the fuck off. His
Speaker 4: dad had to write a six figure checker.
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Damn man that he got his block knocked off and
Speaker 2: he chose to sue.
Speaker 7: Y'all picture of Dwayne Wayne mean, I'm from a different world.
Speaker 1: Man, Oh man, I don't know how to feel. This
Speaker 1: is almost unbelievable. So, yes, Crook, I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think he's not worried about the optics. But his problem
Speaker 1: is he's worried about the optics. That's the only thing. Like,
Speaker 1: because he's not hip hop in culture and being raised,
Speaker 1: he don't quite understand what's happening. But because he's idolized
Speaker 1: his culture like tons of basketball players, he's idolized culture
Speaker 1: like tons of people on outskirts right that they start
Speaker 1: to participate right, and then they start to try to.
Speaker 2: Live up to the.
Speaker 1: To the to the rules, to the foundation of it,
Speaker 1: you know, to the point where even when he got robbed,
Speaker 1: he told the police and he felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was things that he did that really threw me off.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but I never thought he was street crooked.
Speaker 1: When I first I never thought he was street. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a good dude. Like, it's a good kid.
Speaker 1: You know, you just nigg we the same. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good kid, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it was weird to me that when his music started
Speaker 1: to get street and it started talking about hurting people
Speaker 1: and spending the lilt and talking tough, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just music. And then I realized when I first
Speaker 1: started to you remember quick, when I would call you,
Speaker 1: when I was just getting the grasp on what hip
Speaker 1: hop was from a true cultural standpoint, I was figuring
Speaker 1: it out, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, he not hip hop. And I didn't think anything.
Speaker 1: Wrong with it because I thought he was an unbelievably
Speaker 1: talented musician.
Speaker 2: I never cared if he was or was it right?
Speaker 2: You feel me?
Speaker 1: It was like he was extremely dope, like this dude
Speaker 1: was a master. But then I noticed when I read
Speaker 1: it publicly talking to Charlemagne in the interview, and like
Speaker 1: it was like a kind of an attitude from his
Speaker 1: team to me, and I'm like, wait a minute, are
Speaker 1: y'all mad at me for saying this? And it's like
Speaker 1: they wanted people to really.
Speaker 2: Believe that he was street. I went through the same
Speaker 2: thing with Rose.
Speaker 1: It was like I'm saying something I get, you know,
Speaker 1: like because I make street rap, I have to be
Speaker 1: honest and be a lot more transparent because you know,
Speaker 1: everybody else that's that's competing in the competing space, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, they get to kind of fantasize it.
Speaker 2: They get to you know, like I was saying, Ross,
Speaker 2: you know who's in my top five?
Speaker 1: Like he could say he got ninety eight million dollars
Speaker 1: in the Bank of American bank account, or you know
Speaker 1: Creavior or he named himself after a guy that I
Speaker 1: actually wove.
Speaker 2: And you know, I wasn't it wasn't no shame crooked
Speaker 2: on Olivia, but it wasn't no shade. It was just like,
Speaker 2: these are obvious truths. Niggas was making at me, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you think you fooling people?
Speaker 1: Yes, if I'm crazy or if they crazy? Because I'm like,
Speaker 1: are they fooling people?
Speaker 6: So that's where we come to this situation at hand.
Speaker 6: It's like a magician telling everybody how the magic tricks
Speaker 6: are performed. When you get up here, you start talking
Speaker 6: about these bots and this AI and this stream shit,
Speaker 6: you about to pull back the curtain and show everybody
Speaker 6: the wizard of Alls. You feel me, and let me
Speaker 6: tell you they're not playing about this bro. Fifteen twenty fifteen,
Speaker 6: I did a show called One Shot. I created this
Speaker 6: show for BT Rap Competition, all this kind of good stuff.
Speaker 6: One of the real current judges good dude, family man.
Speaker 6: I met his kids, I met his wife. Family man.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, real good dude. We had
Speaker 6: a successful season.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 6: A couple of years went by, everybody started doing their
Speaker 6: own little thing.
Speaker 7: We all went back to our respective corners.
Speaker 6: This year, I woke up and his face was all
Speaker 6: over the news, and I was like, what is he
Speaker 6: doing all over the news? Feds yanked them out of
Speaker 6: his crib in front of his kids, and his wife
Speaker 6: arrested him and charged them with an accusation that he
Speaker 6: used AI and bots and manipulated streams to generate ten
Speaker 6: million dollars for himself.
Speaker 7: And they are.
Speaker 6: Saying that this is one of the biggest streaming crimes
Speaker 6: since they started passing laws against fraudulent streams. That man
Speaker 6: owns businesses, homes, He's a hard working dude. They snatched
Speaker 6: him straight up. They not playing about that shit, bro,
Speaker 6: unless you are with the machine. Then they turned the
Speaker 6: other was permitted to chieve.
Speaker 5: Do you know what this reminds me of?
Speaker 2: No, It's like, this is what I kind of think
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: If this is Drake's second L he's ever taken since
Speaker 4: that he was born.
Speaker 5: What was his first L?
Speaker 2: Not push your tea?
Speaker 4: I mean that was a speed bump that didn't impact anything.
Speaker 4: This reminds me of Hillary Clinton losing the election in
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and blaming it on the Russians, like a
Speaker 4: total shock and disbelief, and I like, this can't be possible.
Speaker 4: I'm me, I don't take l's like this. It had
Speaker 4: to have been manipulated by somebody outside of the system. Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I think with Drake man, I
Speaker 3: think Drake is the delusional guy. I think he's the
Speaker 3: direct result of that everybody gets a trophy syndrome. That
Speaker 3: was one of the things I hated. Do you remember
Speaker 3: when I was coaching you football, told you I hate
Speaker 3: the idea of everybody getting the trophy. Mm, this is
Speaker 3: the same thing Drake doesn't think he's supposed to lose.
Speaker 7: He's entitled.
Speaker 3: His privilege is coming out of showing right now, how
Speaker 3: big this dude from compt to beat me. He's not
Speaker 3: better than me than me? This is this privilege. This
Speaker 3: is privilege on thing. He's having a timidt answer right now.
Speaker 2: You know what, that actually makes sense.
Speaker 3: This is his privilege.
Speaker 2: Privilege, bro, he really is having a privileged moment.
Speaker 8: He got affluenza, you know how dare.
Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that, but that makes sense.
Speaker 1: He's having a privileged moment.
Speaker 5: HM.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he called doc Nick the
Speaker 3: N word with hard r bro.
Speaker 7: I'm I believe.
Speaker 4: You that the who would he say that to?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: Because for people who probably around him all the time,
Speaker 4: you know, probably aren't like on his.
Speaker 3: Probably we're still setting their breast, whatever you're doing, still
Speaker 3: still out here with this is ridiculous, right, you know me?
Speaker 3: She was talking right. Everybody except everybody on this family
Speaker 3: except one of us, is from the hood, right, everybody
Speaker 3: from the get him. We've all lost the fight before, right,
Speaker 3: But we never told like she was alluding to earlier.
Speaker 3: We never went back and told nobody we just want
Speaker 3: to fuck that dude again and again until we got
Speaker 3: a victory, or we left him head alone, right, whatever
Speaker 3: it was. But we didn't go tell nobody. This dude
Speaker 3: really thinks that he has the right to go. Man,
Speaker 3: he lost the battle, bruh. And I'm pretty sure he
Speaker 3: done heard that album. I'm pretty you were, and he
Speaker 3: can't one person you can't lie to You can't lie
Speaker 3: to yourself. I'm pretty sure you don't heard that shit
Speaker 3: and said, Man, this is really good.
Speaker 7: I'm going to sue him.
Speaker 3: He's ruined me.
Speaker 6: No, all the farm owners thinking right now, this is
Speaker 6: a deeper conversation, bro, because.
Speaker 1: I've always thought if you are mixed with black, you
Speaker 1: are black, right. But then I've always thought, big bro,
Speaker 1: and this is a good thing to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: I've always thought of black as a responsibility. It ain't
Speaker 1: like my skin is black, right, Being black is a
Speaker 1: desire to care for other people that have been through
Speaker 1: the same type of struggles like myself. It's a responsibility
Speaker 1: to be black. And I noticed it and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, like I used to always say he wasn't
Speaker 1: hip hop. People thought that that was the equivalent of
Speaker 1: me saying he's not black.
Speaker 2: And it's like, he's black. His father is a black man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's black dog. But being black, like you said,
Speaker 3: it's more than a skin color, man, It's a condition, man,
Speaker 3: It's like it's a soul. Listen here, man, and think
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: Also, like if you're from a biracial parenting, you know,
Speaker 4: or what's the word, like a conception and you're raised
Speaker 4: by one parent, you're gonna be pretty.
Speaker 5: Much that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking, right, So that was
Speaker 2: always my thing.
Speaker 5: I got to have a lot of those conversations, right, that.
Speaker 2: Was always my thing about him not being hip hop.
Speaker 1: Right, he he was raised by his mother in the
Speaker 1: Jewish community, going.
Speaker 2: To Jewish because and that was always my thought, right.
Speaker 1: Man, Now I can see if he was raised Jewish
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, you know, you could be you hang
Speaker 1: out onside, I guess what is you back to the streets.
Speaker 1: But again, his serf stances, his environment. He was raised
Speaker 1: as a Jewish man, so I always thought of him
Speaker 1: was Jewish. But I understood his father was a brother
Speaker 1: from Memphis.
Speaker 2: Right, But you know, like if that's not going on, and.
Speaker 1: Like like to me, you're not biracial, there's no such thing.
Speaker 2: You're black, if you know what I mean, you're black.
Speaker 2: If you're black, you're black.
Speaker 1: It don't even matter what happened because theoretically everybody come
Speaker 1: from black people from the star. So every for sure,
Speaker 1: if you cut it back down, you're black. So I
Speaker 1: understood he was Jewish based off culture, minus the conversation
Speaker 1: of race, minus the conversation of his again ethnic ethnicity.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he's a jewish Man. You know,
Speaker 2: racially he's a Negro.
Speaker 1: Right, But again, if race is not a real construct,
Speaker 1: he would be a jewish Man. And if you think
Speaker 1: about how he's going about this battle right now, they
Speaker 1: really yeah, not a bad thing.
Speaker 9: You got way too Trump in office, you got way
Speaker 9: to January sixth. Then you can say that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I don't think it's negative. I
Speaker 1: mean that's just culture to who.
Speaker 8: His peoples are.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why YouTube.
Speaker 4: That there's a difference in that sensus saying saying like
Speaker 4: the Jays and j Ish, But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not in charge of it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even know if that if that matters, man,
Speaker 3: I just think that the dude don't have no culture.
Speaker 2: Man he does, but that's my points then he already
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 5: He was raised jam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. He doesn't like when
Speaker 3: you've never really been through nothing like you know how
Speaker 3: you talking about him and his mom had a hard time, man, mhm, him,
Speaker 3: him and his mom Florry Town was way different than
Speaker 3: our parents hard time.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get to the drug Olympics. He
Speaker 2: waste the time with that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for sure, I always thought of him
Speaker 1: as that, but like this is next level, not hip
Speaker 1: like I always thought he wasn't hip, but like this is.
Speaker 2: For sure the most unhit thing he's ever done in his.
Speaker 4: Life that I've ever saw that I saw or is
Speaker 4: it just the most Jewish things ever done in this life?
Speaker 1: That's my point. It makes sense when you throw because
Speaker 1: I can't play. The Beastie Boys were still the.
Speaker 3: Whole bunch of Jewish people on hip hop broke ain't never.
Speaker 1: I think those people still are street like the Beastie
Speaker 1: Boys still grew up in the punk rock environment, should
Speaker 1: be able to create the music.
Speaker 2: So there's a level of street urbanness too it.
Speaker 1: Because again punk rock is and hip hop or step brother,
Speaker 1: they both come from street urban backgrounds, just different you know,
Speaker 1: mothers places on Earth. We ain't come up in the
Speaker 1: same places. But the saying oppression or whatever miss understood,
Speaker 1: Like the Skaters cam when I was just young, the
Speaker 1: Skaters is like that they really felt like they were
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, ain't Drake from the
Speaker 1: Canada streets though? Any rocking with the Hell's Angels and
Speaker 1: all that that street no, y ain't no no, because.
Speaker 2: For sure they wouldn't be suing nobody. It'd be a rumble,
Speaker 2: be a squabble.
Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask sure this crook. When't you say
Speaker 3: that Drake is a good artist. Yeah, you know, Drake
Speaker 3: was probably one of the biggest you know, if you
Speaker 3: want to call him hip hop or he's one of
Speaker 3: the biggest recording artists in the industry. I believe that
Speaker 3: this is going to be really bad for him.
Speaker 1: Somebody's making a point shout out to. We've been trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what it was. Shout out to, Uh
Speaker 1: David Jones. He said, I think Crookeds mic is too.
Speaker 2: Close to his speakers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that may be where we're getting the feed.
Speaker 2: That could be it, because I had the same thing
Speaker 2: happened with. I don't know, because I don't think you
Speaker 2: got a mic.
Speaker 3: No, I don't got a mic. I'm just on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so somebody's mic may be too close to their
Speaker 1: speakers mike right here.
Speaker 7: They ain't even plugged up.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I think it'd be to a
Speaker 3: little bit man, to a certain extent with these things,
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, this is gonna be weird,
Speaker 3: but this is gonna be.
Speaker 4: Bad for Oh boy, you got you got your ear
Speaker 4: pieces in or you listening to your thing.
Speaker 3: The gonna say you probably gotta have an ear piece in. No,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just my mic when you're all talking.
Speaker 2: It's definitely it couldn't be.
Speaker 9: It's coming It's coming from crook It's coming from Crook side. Okay,
Speaker 9: I don't know what it was, but it's coming from that.
Speaker 3: But we might well keep going. We can't spend a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's all good.
Speaker 2: Don't thank you, brother, You're not causing an issue, thank
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 1: So no, Ryan, right, And this is the tricky part, Ryan,
Speaker 1: that's the bad question. I don't really want to deal with,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna deal with it anyway. So everyone with
Speaker 1: African ancestry is black, now.
Speaker 8: No, not nothing.
Speaker 9: Our definitely, our definition of black really is basically the
Speaker 9: sentence of slave experience, the black descendants of slaves in
Speaker 9: North America. So Drake is supposed to you know, he's
Speaker 9: half of that, but he wasn't raised on you know,
Speaker 9: on that side of the fence, so he don't want
Speaker 9: that with that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into this thing like mixed
Speaker 3: people ain't black, man, because I know a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of down mixed people.
Speaker 8: You know, well, we all mix.
Speaker 9: If you're an American and you got a last name
Speaker 9: that ain't African, you've been cut.
Speaker 3: You cut. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like, that's not but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, So no, no, everybody that's of African descent, because
Speaker 1: Eli Musk is of African descent. It is obvious he's
Speaker 1: not a black man. So no, you don't even got
Speaker 1: to go that far. We don't even waste that much time.
Speaker 9: No, do you think that Drake is is kind of
Speaker 9: going crazy because he know, he know he's a hit maker.
Speaker 9: He know he make fire music, but he don't under
Speaker 9: he didn't understand the dynamics of Kendrick's you know, lineage
Speaker 9: and the audience and what he represents.
Speaker 8: Because Drake Drakens is a hit maker.
Speaker 9: But when you start trying to come over here on
Speaker 9: this fence and get into this warrior type of you know,
Speaker 9: street street warrior type of thing, you're gonna catch the
Speaker 9: all like you never caught before.
Speaker 8: I think he you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I just think Drake just stepped in some you know,
Speaker 3: I think Drake just stepped in a mess. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what it was. This is my thing. You know,
Speaker 3: Drake was going to all the U r L battles
Speaker 3: and I think he was just really intrigued by this
Speaker 3: and he just thought that maybe he can get one
Speaker 3: off on dot and just kind of bit off more
Speaker 3: than he can shoot.
Speaker 4: I think he's surpassing out because he can't reach the
Speaker 4: audience he's always been able to reach.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, so so here let's let's my man
Speaker 1: crook it here so I could keep some facts.
Speaker 2: So this is some facts.
Speaker 1: Right since the days of selling records, record label's been
Speaker 1: buying records. You really can't pay for a hit record.
Speaker 1: Your record actually gotta work, especially at any major market.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: You could try to get a promotional thing on, but
Speaker 1: eventually your record got a call out. As far as
Speaker 1: streaming and stuff, I do believe that there are some
Speaker 1: plus ones and plus twos for streams, I believe that's happening.
Speaker 1: But your record actually has the stream. You can't take
Speaker 1: the record that nobody knows and make it work. And
Speaker 1: the problem is there have been articles. There was an
Speaker 1: article on a Rolling Stone accusing Drake of the same thing.
Speaker 1: And before we just start using that p word, right
Speaker 1: like the payola word, you can't still be the first one.
Speaker 2: Can be the first one, crook me. You can't pay
Speaker 2: for hit record.
Speaker 1: It actually gotta be a hit record only and pay
Speaker 1: for the promotion to have a chance to have a
Speaker 1: hit records. Maybe if you had a small station that
Speaker 1: don't have a million dollar endorsements deal from Pepsi's and
Speaker 1: and Universal City Neiss. Maybe if you don't have a
Speaker 1: station that has those, But if you have a station
Speaker 1: that's making great money off of advertisement, you could not
Speaker 1: pay for a hit record. So that's the first thing
Speaker 1: your record actually has to perform.
Speaker 2: That's a fact. I know it.
Speaker 1: I'd have backed it up a mellion. I know it's true.
Speaker 1: So Paola is an over stated concept.
Speaker 3: I want to add something else to that. And Kim
Speaker 3: You and Crooked both attested this. We used to see
Speaker 3: people back in the day they have what you call
Speaker 3: turntable hits. They would have these huge records at radio.
Speaker 3: But then the first week when sound Scheme would come
Speaker 3: out there to sell a thousand copies, Remember though, bring when.
Speaker 8: That would happen to Cam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people still have to go out and purchase your record. However,
Speaker 3: is now people still have to go stream. Like you said,
Speaker 3: you can't cheat your way to it. A big record,
Speaker 3: not the record, not as big as something, not like
Speaker 3: this was. You can't keep with that. It was everybody
Speaker 3: be doing it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Drake, Drake just ain't.
Speaker 9: He's not from that that world where he could be
Speaker 9: battle rapping like real street street dudes, like it's just
Speaker 9: the culture won't allow it. It's just like a governor
Speaker 9: on the culture. It was just it's just, you know,
Speaker 9: it just won't allow it. If he stuck to his
Speaker 9: singing hooks and all that he has smashed Kendrick. If
Speaker 9: Kendrick came over to his side of the fence and
Speaker 9: trying to he would ruin his own career. But Drake
Speaker 9: is the one that made the mistake and came over
Speaker 9: here and he stepped on some landlines.
Speaker 2: And that's a great point.
Speaker 1: He he didn't have to be this at first, right,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to be this at first. Again, everybody,
Speaker 1: this is No Silings Live. The YouTube link is hold on.
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Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: It goes live on the YouTube on a No Salis podcast.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brothers for coming down and making
Speaker 1: it happen with me. Let me tweet this link. Yes
Speaker 1: it's crooked phone for sure, for sure. Damn that dude caught.
Speaker 1: He must be like an engineer or something. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you caught that. So again, he had the
Speaker 1: game in his hand when he first came to the
Speaker 1: like when he first came to cash money.
Speaker 2: Because he was actually the genuine article.
Speaker 1: He was a really great talent actor, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he was he had been a part
Speaker 1: of a he had been a part of a TV
Speaker 1: show that was doing well. He was well trained, prepared
Speaker 1: as an entertainer, and he wasn't too shabby. On the
Speaker 1: record side, he was a killer. Like he was a
Speaker 1: monster at making records. Like I remember the first time
Speaker 1: meeting him and then hearing his records and being like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is the same dude that made
Speaker 1: both of these.
Speaker 2: It almost seemed possible.
Speaker 5: He's the first reverse engineer rapper.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 5: Every other rapper has gone from inner city to suburbs.
Speaker 5: He did it the other way.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think is killing him, right, Pete, because.
Speaker 4: Because he could only go so far in before you
Speaker 4: get too far, you can never go too far out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to go all the way in.
Speaker 1: And now like he's in this weird space to where
Speaker 1: he's trying to kind of live like the culture right
Speaker 1: where he's doing stuff, you know, taking the situation into
Speaker 1: his own hands, just as different small things. But it's like,
Speaker 1: well these things still apply, Like and the Kendrick Battle
Speaker 1: didn't do anything but show everybody that obviously culturally he's
Speaker 1: not what you know people thought he was, which is weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they thought he was that.
Speaker 1: But also it's like, not only did you turn the
Speaker 1: culture and have the culture looking at you crazy right
Speaker 1: within that battle, but also now you're about to.
Speaker 2: Turn the business against you, Like the business was never
Speaker 2: against you. The business built you.
Speaker 1: The business gave you all the looks because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have came through the streets, you couldn't have went to
Speaker 1: all the places you need to do all of that stuff.
Speaker 9: He went tropic thunder. He went full uh such and such. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: this guy. Never go full gangster.
Speaker 1: Never go full gamester. He went full gangster. That's a
Speaker 1: great point, big bro.
Speaker 2: Oh god, he went full gangster.
Speaker 4: He says something about bodies to the point where I
Speaker 4: was like, I thought that bodies meant something else.
Speaker 2: It made me think that I didn't know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying bodies, And I know.
Speaker 4: But when I first heard him saying, I was like,
Speaker 4: ship all this time, I thought it.
Speaker 9: Meant that it must mean something different because he's yeah,
Speaker 9: I thought he meant girls, like he was a girl.
Speaker 8: Bodies or something, but blind. Yeah, I'm like, man, I.
Speaker 5: Thought people getting killed it was pussy all this time.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you. I don't think
Speaker 3: killer has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Let's take Eminem for example, right, has never pressed but was.
Speaker 8: Raised in Detroit with That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's a difference, bro. Eminem is really he's really with
Speaker 3: the ships, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's a punk rock kid that grew up in Eminem
Speaker 4: is very respectful of that relationship.
Speaker 3: And I think that's because he really knows what he
Speaker 3: really know what time it is, you know. So I
Speaker 3: just think, man, I think this is gonna be bad
Speaker 3: for doing. And to be honest with you, it's almost
Speaker 3: like he just like everybody talking about Dot's album and
Speaker 3: then he come up with this bullshit, right. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: he just want to make it about him.
Speaker 7: All right. So I got a question for y'all, what
Speaker 7: are the ramifications of this case?
Speaker 6: Because people, people are people are speculating that he's trying
Speaker 6: to get off of a universal and he this is
Speaker 6: the this is the movie making.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand how could this get him off
Speaker 1: of you accusing another artist This is like that Gunner case. Right,
Speaker 1: This is like that Gunner case where people are confusing, right,
Speaker 1: like what a plea is as somebody that that's took
Speaker 1: too pleas in my life, a plea is when you
Speaker 1: only admit to the things that you did, or you
Speaker 1: only base it off of the things you did. In
Speaker 1: Gunner situation, right with Thug, the reason he told on
Speaker 1: Thug is he said he did nothing and everybody else
Speaker 1: did everything. Now, maybe if if if Drake's case would
Speaker 1: have been more like, you know what, the label hasn't
Speaker 1: been paying me. They flated these streams. But he's doing
Speaker 1: the same thing where he's like, no, this guy, they're
Speaker 1: over here doing this for him, y'all signed to the
Speaker 1: same people. They're doing this for him. They're doing this
Speaker 1: for him. They're not doing they're doing this for him.
Speaker 1: He's not even talking about what they're doing for him.
Speaker 1: He's not even saying what they did to wrong him.
Speaker 1: They're saying them marketing. Kendrick Lamarson, I have a problem
Speaker 1: with it because they did it unfairly. He's not even
Speaker 1: equating it to he's not even equating it crook to
Speaker 1: his shit.
Speaker 4: But that kind of does support his point though, because
Speaker 4: he can't demonstrate standing because he hasn't been damaged by it,
Speaker 4: you know, in the way that he's suggesting. So if
Speaker 4: it's look, this is gonna be ugly in discovery for
Speaker 4: us as universal and he says, hey, look, if you
Speaker 4: guys let me out of my deal, we could drop
Speaker 4: this right now before those discovery.
Speaker 1: Sure it's a civil case to Crooked's point, right, So
Speaker 1: what Peter is saying makes the most sense.
Speaker 2: The reality is maybe he kicks up.
Speaker 1: Enough dust to where they like he settles it, like,
Speaker 1: let me out of my deal and I'll drop the
Speaker 1: case so you don't have to present.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you right now ahead of time.
Speaker 4: U m G.
Speaker 1: Not gonna do that. They are past the point of
Speaker 1: you bullying them.
Speaker 9: Man, come on, man, Ain't nobody not going program. Ain't
Speaker 9: nobody bigger.
Speaker 2: Than to bully U MG. And if he thought that
Speaker 2: that was his plan, Mike hints learned the hard way.
Speaker 2: But you are not going to bully these people.
Speaker 5: What does he benefit from getting out of that deal?
Speaker 5: Where's it gonna go?
Speaker 8: Right now?
Speaker 4: His values at its all time low and you want
Speaker 4: to get out of your deal?
Speaker 5: That that in itself.
Speaker 6: Don't have a value. He will make money as an
Speaker 6: independent artist. We know that.
Speaker 8: How much? How much? How much y'all?
Speaker 9: How much do a rapper supposed to make before you
Speaker 9: feel like he don't need to have to make no more?
Speaker 8: Like I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on?
Speaker 1: What which world do you tell on one dope man
Speaker 1: and get another.
Speaker 2: Even crook as an independent Which.
Speaker 1: World do you tell on one dope man and then
Speaker 1: people know you told on the dope man and another
Speaker 1: plug say come over.
Speaker 2: Here and get this money?
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it don't like it's not a smart plan.
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that he can definitely be on
Speaker 6: that perspective, like yo, I could just jet out and
Speaker 6: go independent or go somewhere else and get my bread.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's a smart plan, but his value
Speaker 6: is still there. He has value.
Speaker 8: Do y'all think he's clean?
Speaker 9: Just like what was really ruining his image is the
Speaker 9: is the a minor that that subject?
Speaker 8: Right? So is he clean enough to try to do
Speaker 8: that to universal? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 9: Is he clean enough to you understand I'm saying like
Speaker 9: he just smashed everything. Yeah, he just smashed everything he saw.
Speaker 3: This man, we just saw this whole thing with Puffy.
Speaker 3: As soon as Puffy start missing with them folks, man,
Speaker 3: he was sitting up in the jail seal. Everybody along.
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to go to Puffy wants to go to
Speaker 1: the Puffy party. And then one day overnight I was
Speaker 1: the only person. I went from being the only person
Speaker 1: that didn't care about going to Puff party because I
Speaker 1: don't drink and mess with the brawl, to do no
Speaker 1: drugs like that. Now everybody don't want to go to
Speaker 1: Puffy party. So again, trust me, he already did more
Speaker 1: than enough for them people to hang in that. We
Speaker 1: used to have this conversation all the time, cam like,
Speaker 1: they're not going to let you get that far without
Speaker 1: having something on you, right that just they're not finna
Speaker 1: make you that. You know, they're not finna just empower
Speaker 1: you and make you a monster, and you could just
Speaker 1: move about the cabin for free. So I do think
Speaker 1: Cricket is right. There has to be that would make sense. Right,
Speaker 1: there's an idea and an intention to get out of
Speaker 1: a deal. But the way you're going about it, first off,
Speaker 1: you're exposing business practices that they use for all of
Speaker 1: y'all everybody.
Speaker 4: And furthermore, do you want to be independent and be
Speaker 4: blackball from Spotify?
Speaker 1: And the problem is you're not going to be blackball
Speaker 1: from Spotify, but they're going to comb your shit everybody,
Speaker 1: because again, the dope trade is very much the dough trade.
Speaker 1: If you tell on somebody in the dough trade, nobody
Speaker 1: is going to give you dope.
Speaker 2: That's really if they kill you.
Speaker 6: Did you the move he made when he was releasing
Speaker 6: music on a website? Yes, you think that was the
Speaker 6: testing grounds?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: Just how curiosity? What does an artist of that magnitude?
Speaker 5: What does his deal look like?
Speaker 4: Because I would assume he could kind of not craft
Speaker 4: his own deal, but kind of craft his own deal.
Speaker 5: What do you think his deal looks like?
Speaker 3: What you think when the first we gave him crook?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe twenty million.
Speaker 2: I think it's forty. Let me let crook, oh the crook,
Speaker 2: let me get you going.
Speaker 7: They said a four hundred million dollar deal. That's what
Speaker 7: they say.
Speaker 6: Now we understand people be tripping and you know, say
Speaker 6: anything for marketing, but they said four hundred million dollars
Speaker 6: wich forward, making it even more puzzling to what as
Speaker 6: to why you would go up against them in this
Speaker 6: in this situation, it's like, what are your intentions? I
Speaker 6: guess that's the that's the question, what are your intentions?
Speaker 6: Because the deed is done?
Speaker 9: So could it could it be could it be controlled opposition?
Speaker 9: Could this be deeper than we think it is?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith. I have zero faith that
Speaker 1: Drake is a chess player. And I think the deal
Speaker 1: I think everybody industry adds a zero to the deal.
Speaker 1: So if the deal was supposed to be four hundred million,
Speaker 1: is forty million?
Speaker 3: I think he might have got forty man, because the
Speaker 3: ain't nobody give him. There's too many things that can happen.
Speaker 3: You get somebody that money.
Speaker 4: It depends, Like I was like, I guess who owns
Speaker 4: the masters in that scenario? If if he's getting forty,
Speaker 4: he must own the lion's shriff, his rights. I just
Speaker 4: heard on good authority, like really really really good authority
Speaker 4: of about an artist whose music I've never even heard
Speaker 4: getting paid one hundred for his catalog and future catalog rates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all of that stuff, forgive me, hold up, krip.
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is fluff, Like all of that
Speaker 1: numbers I know for sure fact I could prove it.
Speaker 1: But all of that number is fluff. This has this
Speaker 1: is this is an emotional response. This is an emotional
Speaker 1: response to I believe that yeah, too too bad event
Speaker 1: in his life that is really traumatizing him. I know
Speaker 1: this sounds crazy because losing a rap battle to us
Speaker 1: would probably hurt our feelings, but it probably it ain't
Speaker 1: the end of the.
Speaker 2: World, but.
Speaker 3: An emotional breakdown.
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm define he really is calling this boy
Speaker 1: the hard e r behind the door, behind closed doors.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 6: So let's go into the conspiracy real you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Let's take this into the conspiracy real, real quick.
Speaker 6: The chair of Sony Music recently said, when rap became
Speaker 6: the number one genre, instead they signed a thousand rap
Speaker 6: artists instead of one hundred great rap artists, and that's
Speaker 6: the reason why rap is declining for them, and they
Speaker 6: foresee it going back underground and coming up a lot
Speaker 6: stronger after going back underground. So in essence, what I
Speaker 6: heard was, you're gonna try to force rap music to
Speaker 6: go back underground. You're defunding all these marketing budgets, you're
Speaker 6: shifting the money to different genres. And to catalogs that
Speaker 6: you already own. And that's the focus on suspending. And
Speaker 6: now we're gonna try to let rap just go underground.
Speaker 6: So is this part of that?
Speaker 4: Let the laboratory pay for itself and then you purchase
Speaker 4: the medicine when it's done.
Speaker 9: So is loocien grange connection to Diddy playing any part
Speaker 9: in this?
Speaker 8: Are they? Are they doing some diabolical stuff behind it?
Speaker 3: His son? His son is about to take over.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm just saying that that's still connected to the
Speaker 9: father though. So if they if they twist the father up,
Speaker 9: the son ain't got no action. So is he trying
Speaker 9: to just sink the ship? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: And you know, let the Titanic go down and and
Speaker 9: and scatter before before that happened.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Bro. I think the Universal Music
Speaker 3: Group is indestructive.
Speaker 8: No such thing, no such thing.
Speaker 9: That's just like saying America's in destruction, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying, camp Up.
Speaker 1: I like I like, I like, I like America's chances
Speaker 1: less I like you, and chance is better of being.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Bro, they have a lot of money,
Speaker 3: they have a lot of influence, bro, and it's just
Speaker 3: not music. You know, there's a lot of people in
Speaker 3: that building, a lot of big megastars. You gotta remember,
Speaker 3: everybody any sloop over that gem. Everybody is over there.
Speaker 3: Only is the only thing left. To some degree, It's
Speaker 3: like two labels left.
Speaker 9: And everybody ain't everybody on the Diddy Party list de
Speaker 9: Steam list.
Speaker 2: That list will never come out.
Speaker 8: I don't know, never say never.
Speaker 2: And then and then if it comes out, nobody is
Speaker 2: going to react.
Speaker 1: No listen, this whole Diddy Diddy travesty is all a sham.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody care about who?
Speaker 1: Nobody care about Diddy buying no prostitutes, nobody care about
Speaker 1: how Diddy was partying.
Speaker 2: Nobody cared because everybody, all.
Speaker 1: Of these people, even the people in the chat, party
Speaker 1: the same way. I am the only the honorable glasses
Speaker 1: look the only nigga.
Speaker 12: That don't party that way. And Cam the only people
Speaker 12: that don't party that way. This is normal people party.
Speaker 12: The reason in this matter to Diddy is because some
Speaker 12: other stuff is going on. Something else is wrong. You
Speaker 12: feel me so again, It's like Crooked is making some
Speaker 12: compelling points. Could he be making a play to get
Speaker 12: out of this deal? Because I did hear that a
Speaker 12: couple of times today. This is the wrong way to
Speaker 12: do it. The enemies to have if you plan to
Speaker 12: be in this business.
Speaker 1: After today, It don't even matter whether or not they
Speaker 1: let him go. It don't even matter if they let
Speaker 1: him go. It does not matter if they let him go.
Speaker 1: He made the greatest mistake of his life today in
Speaker 1: the business. He made the greatest mistake of his life
Speaker 1: in the culture a couple months ago during the battle,
Speaker 1: But he made the greatest mistake of his life today
Speaker 1: challenging the business.
Speaker 5: Possible for the door to.
Speaker 4: What if we're seeing a whole trend of in the
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and by a couple I mean
Speaker 4: sixty but opportunistic Department of Justice prosecutors.
Speaker 5: He could do this walk away.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow and potentially entice actual criminal investigation action by people
Speaker 4: who want to get their name out there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, this messing with
Speaker 3: somebody like Universal, it would mess around and reverse back
Speaker 3: on him. They would fuck around and twist him up
Speaker 3: somehow and start looking at this stuff. Because I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you, all he's going to do is get hisself
Speaker 3: further scrutinized. So if he got anything done, if he
Speaker 3: got anything filing his catalog, dog, he's gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 3: He might be sitting next to Didny somewhere. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 3: these people ain't nothing to play with.
Speaker 9: They not nothing to play with. And he like he
Speaker 9: like Biden to me, or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: He ain't making any decisions. He worked too much to
Speaker 9: too many people for for us to think Drake just
Speaker 9: made that decision. Somebody else's handlers is advising, somebody else is.
Speaker 8: Making him do that.
Speaker 1: I think mand Jones on his own reconnaissance and not
Speaker 1: talking to him, and that's me his destruction. Shout for
Speaker 1: the five dollars the petition.
Speaker 2: The petition is filed under a vague LLC.
Speaker 1: He didn't want this to go public, but they're trying
Speaker 1: to flip it like he's looking out for indie artists.
Speaker 1: That is a major boy, that David Jones. He figured
Speaker 1: out the audio problem.
Speaker 8: We couldn't figured it out.
Speaker 2: The crook.
Speaker 5: He is going to get replaced by David Jones.
Speaker 2: Twish is another no hour Monday, Wednesday and Friday at noon.
Speaker 1: Dave, I need you at the lunch hour at twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific Standard time Monday, Wednesday and Friday noon.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you got going on. You cook it. Hm,
Speaker 2: it's kind of late to be cooking, but you cook,
Speaker 2: but you cook it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, though, Man, we
Speaker 3: see this all the time, and especially in music. Man,
Speaker 3: people allow their youth bridge to start thinking man, that
Speaker 3: they that they almost on the deity level. Man, and
Speaker 3: they find out the chorus, mh, I'm fly too close
Speaker 3: to the sun. I wound up getting heated up. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, man, this is gonna end bad for dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it just it almost can't work out.
Speaker 2: Like he's not.
Speaker 1: Like he's empowered by the business.
Speaker 2: Like without the business, how do you like he.
Speaker 8: Ft on both both sides.
Speaker 9: Like he already got something he can't handle from from
Speaker 9: Kendrick in these West Coast and now the United States.
Speaker 8: Fans street, these street people, the soldiers.
Speaker 9: And now he want to throw a fit against Daddy
Speaker 9: or or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying is lose lose situation.
Speaker 3: He had to do, man, I'm pretty sure his advisors
Speaker 3: told him this. All he had to do was ship
Speaker 3: the fuck up and go somewhere.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny that we keep thinking his advisors
Speaker 1: is telling him that. I'm starting to really believe No,
Speaker 1: they're not.
Speaker 2: Told this.
Speaker 1: A long time ago, he said, glasses, people be telling
Speaker 1: these people whatever they want to hear. He told me
Speaker 1: that at an elephant bar in Lakewood. He said, Glasses,
Speaker 1: these people telling these people whatever they want to hear.
Speaker 1: They're trying to keep their business. And I equated. I
Speaker 1: equated that to people trying to keep their positions at
Speaker 1: the job.
Speaker 2: So they telling the payroll whatever they need to hear
Speaker 2: to stay on the payroll.
Speaker 9: I can see that because I can see, like did
Speaker 9: he did? He did the same thing, So I guess
Speaker 9: he didn't have no advisors to tell him to try
Speaker 9: to sue dally On or whoever that was the city.
Speaker 8: So I guess you could be right about that.
Speaker 3: This is all arrogance man, This is all his arrogancet man.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be his undoing because he seems to think
Speaker 3: I'm Drake, I can do whatever the hell I want
Speaker 3: to do, and he do this, he gonna find out
Speaker 3: the hard way.
Speaker 2: He already did it.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like he already he already put that
Speaker 1: out there. Iteddy's lawsuit was like it wasn't about that,
Speaker 1: Like he filed this so they could force so he
Speaker 1: could force them to deliver.
Speaker 2: Material, paperwork and stuff about the claims.
Speaker 1: Like if you start getting you know, the government in
Speaker 1: these people business, you're gonna have a real problem.
Speaker 8: Ain't the best question.
Speaker 3: Univers will pay a lot of money. Universe will pay
Speaker 3: a lot of taxes. Brough. It's a lot of people
Speaker 3: making money off at university. You gotta remember, it ain't
Speaker 3: just music, it'st movies, it's liquor, it's all kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: They got their hands in, man and they make it.
Speaker 3: They pay a lot of money, They make a lot
Speaker 3: of money, and they make a lot of other people money.
Speaker 8: So the question is why, damn.
Speaker 9: Let's let's look at why if Drake is accusing him
Speaker 9: of that, why would they do that to Drake?
Speaker 8: Why? What would their motivation?
Speaker 3: Bro? That's Drake in his mind?
Speaker 9: No, I mean, just let's let's humor that though. Let's
Speaker 9: let's just try to go down that little rabbit hole
Speaker 9: for a second. What would they have against Drake? Why
Speaker 9: would they favor Kendrick over Drake?
Speaker 4: It would be almost kind of like the way you see,
Speaker 4: you know how, like with regard to certain like virality algorithms,
Speaker 4: when something starts to get hot, they go like the
Speaker 4: algorithm identifies it. It went from zero to one thousand,
Speaker 4: like really fast, so it will flood it. So it
Speaker 4: goes from one thousand to ten million. And perhaps they
Speaker 4: were just like, all right, what Kenderck just did is
Speaker 4: bigger than what we foresee Drake doing in the near future.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna flood this and capitalize on this moment
Speaker 4: because it's that this is the moment that we're gonna
Speaker 4: the most out.
Speaker 9: Of at Drake, at Drake's at Drake's expense of being
Speaker 9: called the a minor. So they don't care nothing about
Speaker 9: his character.
Speaker 3: See, we all know that the last thing he did
Speaker 3: get four hundred million. You don't get all that money
Speaker 3: at once. And there's some stipulations in there too. Lastly,
Speaker 3: they don't want to give him the rest of that money,
Speaker 3: and they do kind of want to f him off.
Speaker 4: And sometimes you know this, it might be like Jerry
Speaker 4: Krause and the nineteen ninety eight bulls.
Speaker 5: Look you've peaked.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I cannot think of one single reason that the
Speaker 1: business would empower Kendrick over Drake.
Speaker 8: Me neither.
Speaker 1: I can't I gat that of a sole reason. Five
Speaker 1: year outlook, the business would They're the same age, not
Speaker 1: one sole reason.
Speaker 2: Can I think of why the business would empower Ken Like?
Speaker 1: Drake has had so many records, smash hit records. I
Speaker 1: think he's like thirteen in fourteen in like, he has
Speaker 1: more number one records on the Hot one hundred than
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4: Kendrick forced their hands. Kendrick kicked him out of the community.
Speaker 4: It forced their hands.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even true, because I gotta.
Speaker 3: Ask truth this question. At any point, man, did Drake
Speaker 3: reach out to you for you to rescue him, man,
Speaker 3: for you to donate? Yo?
Speaker 7: Still man, that's hilarious, you know what I'm saying. That's hysterical,
Speaker 7: but real talk.
Speaker 6: It is kind of like, why would they like it
Speaker 6: would have to be some behind the scenes stuff that
Speaker 6: we not pretty too. That could be the only reason
Speaker 6: why they would choose to push Kendrick and push Drake out,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Because even a mid tier
Speaker 6: Drake is bringing him money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So and I'm gonna tell you though, people gotta twist
Speaker 3: that Drake was a bigger artist than on Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean but but minus hold on,
Speaker 1: I got you Grid, but minus the bigger artist. I
Speaker 1: cannot think of one sole reason the label chooses.
Speaker 2: Kendrick over Drake. It doesn't make sense like he had
Speaker 2: to actually win the I mean, listen, he had better records.
Speaker 1: I think during the battle, I think Drake didn't lean
Speaker 1: to his strategy of making really good records that can
Speaker 1: be played all over the country. I think he really
Speaker 1: went into it with a battle mind. I'm gonna battle
Speaker 1: this guy, like you know, he he believed all of
Speaker 1: the height of battle rap and and you know when
Speaker 1: he went away from what work of him in the
Speaker 1: Meek Meal battle right, which was back to back, and
Speaker 1: then he gets to the even when he gets in
Speaker 1: a push of tea battle, he dropped a rap song
Speaker 1: like where he's just rapping, and then he gets in
Speaker 1: the Kendrick battle and the push up record is dope, right,
Speaker 1: this is good catching, but then every other record is
Speaker 1: not a really great record, right, So.
Speaker 2: I think he lost the battle.
Speaker 1: I think he lost the battle on his own right,
Speaker 1: and but I cannot find one reason why the business
Speaker 1: would ever favored Kendrick over Drake.
Speaker 2: I can't find one reason in my mind.
Speaker 3: I don't think I think best kind of reaching right there.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of reaching, bro, And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what it is. Man. Drake has been lifting
Speaker 3: out his fantasies over the last ten to fifteen years. Right,
Speaker 3: He's been messing with girls that he probably would have
Speaker 3: never had the chance to knock down if he wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Drake gotta remember that dude used to look corny gee
Speaker 3: before he got the money, and that I didn't.
Speaker 1: Use to It looks hard yesterday, yeah, right now, Like
Speaker 1: he just looks like he's impersonating Nust, Me and Corny.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He gets a real corner, dude,
Speaker 3: when you really think about it. Right, So he's been
Speaker 3: living fantasies. He's been going he's been really fascinated with
Speaker 3: Battle Rep. He's been going to League, been sponsoring League,
Speaker 3: he's sponsoring the whole U r L. But then you
Speaker 3: know they little streaming thing they had going on, and
Speaker 3: he really thought, in his mind, this is going to
Speaker 3: be my chance to immortalize myself in a battle.
Speaker 1: Did an incredible job with the meek meal battle hold.
Speaker 1: Let me get through these super chatter real quick. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Captain d Hard, Thanks for the five dollars.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 1: It's been reported he is in contract negotiations before the
Speaker 1: battles started. Don't know if that's true, but it's on
Speaker 1: Twitter now. He had did that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Maybe he did for an extension, but I know he
Speaker 1: did that a year or two. Go shout out to
Speaker 1: Calor Production, thanks for the two dollars. My brother is spiritual.
Speaker 1: I really believe God writers. I think that's I agree
Speaker 1: with you in the innate sense of the battle, but
Speaker 1: that is not what Universal.
Speaker 2: Music Group is pushing.
Speaker 1: Righteous people not like forgive me because I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that they don't have any talent that's righteous.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't think that's a wanging factor for
Speaker 1: them to market and act is if they're a righteous person.
Speaker 1: I just think that's the furthest thing from their mind.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't want to make it people.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go.
Speaker 1: Too hard on them, you know, because I don't know
Speaker 1: business practices. I ain't been in there. But the last
Speaker 1: thing that I get from them is righteous.
Speaker 2: That's I don't get that. As far as artistry.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie Omar, I do. Thanks for
Speaker 1: the five dollars. This is some great dialogues. Salu Fellas.
Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed it. Man, we're tackling it right now.
Speaker 1: It's late because like this is just breaking events.
Speaker 2: It just matters.
Speaker 6: Yo, yo glasses. Let's go back to the battle real quick.
Speaker 6: I feel like it. I feel like what Still is
Speaker 6: talking about going into all these battle rap events and
Speaker 6: all that one the first thing you people in that
Speaker 6: world is people use angles, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: His angle was to live bro Kendrick. He just wanted
Speaker 7: to little.
Speaker 8: Brilliant, he feel me.
Speaker 7: And Hendrick was coming.
Speaker 6: With concept records like Meet the Grahams, and he was
Speaker 6: taking it all the way around the world with his
Speaker 6: pen as far as coming you know, on some battleship
Speaker 6: and I feel like if if he was really paying
Speaker 6: attention in them battle events, then we would have different
Speaker 6: records right now. And on the tip of the you know,
Speaker 6: the spirituality to I don't think he talking about universal
Speaker 6: music spirituality and they practices.
Speaker 7: I think he's talking about.
Speaker 6: Just period like it's time for you know, something else
Speaker 6: to come into play because of all of the the
Speaker 6: the demons in the music playground right now.
Speaker 1: Totally totally agree that there's a real demand for the
Speaker 1: Universe first is demanding for it. But trust me, Universal
Speaker 1: Music Group is not at the They are not the
Speaker 1: hands for these class group.
Speaker 7: Universe Music Group.
Speaker 4: I swear classes you got a painting or some sort
Speaker 4: of an artistic piece as the result of this battle, correct,
Speaker 4: I do have what does that depict?
Speaker 1: I forget Drake doing push ups while Kendrick as the
Speaker 1: master is watching him.
Speaker 8: Indeed, indeed, okay, drop down, give me fifty.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yes, I agree with Crooked.
Speaker 1: The Universe Music Group is definitely demanding more of a
Speaker 1: righteous fold. And and I mean something I've talked to
Speaker 1: Cam over the years about, you know, when it comes
Speaker 1: to health and and and being street as I am
Speaker 1: and the language that I use, like you could always
Speaker 1: be a street guy and be very much a righteous person.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 2: They're not mutually exclusive. They can go together.
Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to stand up and
Speaker 1: be who you are, even in the face of friends.
Speaker 2: Right, you still gotta be stern.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's the business of Universal
Speaker 1: Music Group.
Speaker 2: I think Universal Music Group do.
Speaker 1: I think behind the scenes they have some backdoor deals
Speaker 1: that can encourage people to do the wrong thing. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I also think, you know, people like to share
Speaker 1: in silly shit.
Speaker 2: You know, you like, I don't do drugs, but people
Speaker 2: like drugs. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I will probably be the last person to tell you
Speaker 1: why somebody like drugs or alcohol.
Speaker 2: I could never understand it.
Speaker 9: Do you think why do you think Drake wanted to
Speaker 9: get involved in the battle rap scene? Do you think
Speaker 9: that he wants an army or a brotherhood hood? He
Speaker 9: wants to for his manhood nature to be respected?
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Because you can, you can have all the females liking
Speaker 9: you all over the world. But I really think with him.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, Champ. Everybody's like going to
Speaker 3: the zoo, right, because you know everybody, what's the favorite thing?
Speaker 3: People like, what's the fake what's the biggest attraction of
Speaker 3: the zoo? The gorillas and the gorilla lines right because
Speaker 3: they behind the cage. Right, how many people you think
Speaker 3: will go to zoo? If the motherfuckers is running free.
Speaker 3: When you go to park a lot, you know, gorillas
Speaker 3: just swing and treat the treatmhen you come in and
Speaker 3: just who just bombing on people lines, you know, biting
Speaker 3: people's head off, and shit, wouldn't nobody want to see
Speaker 3: that live? I think Drake has been going to the
Speaker 3: zoo man now, he think he could walk among the beasts.
Speaker 1: Shout out to ec DC tech academics talking about glasses.
Speaker 1: Long of twenty thousand viewers, Story of my Life, brother, Story.
Speaker 8: Of my Life always did something.
Speaker 1: It's always somebody that's entirely too famous upset at me.
Speaker 2: So I'm used to it.
Speaker 9: I mean it's not bad, yeah, But like I said,
Speaker 9: the beautiful thing though, is people that, like I said,
Speaker 9: the poverty, you know, produces an army, a brotherhood. So
Speaker 9: the ain't ain't no amount of money, ain't on amount
Speaker 9: of females and popularity or whatever that can equal a
Speaker 9: real army. You know what I'm saying. That's that's riding
Speaker 9: and sliding for love and respect. So I think that's
Speaker 9: what he deficient of. You know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 9: of us on this panel, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 9: including Pete got more respect. I think you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying than dude do That's fit where it counts.
Speaker 4: And I think it's also Yeah, because of that deficiency,
Speaker 4: he's not going to go get it in the streets.
Speaker 5: This is the closest place.
Speaker 8: He can go to get it, man, that's true.
Speaker 1: Shout out to a J. I think it's pronounced or
Speaker 1: a job, but I think it's AJ. The only thanks
Speaker 1: for the five dollars, Brodie. The only reason I can
Speaker 1: foresee U m G. Pushing Dot over rate at any
Speaker 1: moment is if they know some Nafari ship on his
Speaker 1: jacket that might hit the streets.
Speaker 2: That's a great point that possibly I think Dave for
Speaker 2: sure will unconnect from your ass. Have you got to.
Speaker 5: And what was the theme of the song?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: But but I'll be honest. When I asked Dot, he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie? Did ask Dot? He said, glasses, you
Speaker 1: ain't know me to be no liar.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying all this fear, all this fear, right, and.
Speaker 4: I think there's you know, hops are kind of genre
Speaker 4: where when it goes, it goes quick for a lot
Speaker 4: of artists. You know, you can have a run for
Speaker 4: a long long time, and when it when you're no
Speaker 4: longer to sound anymore, it's it. You have to wait
Speaker 4: until you're like now now you're like old school hop
Speaker 4: because people remember you.
Speaker 2: Another five dollars, my boy.
Speaker 1: It's a new contract in the lawsuit that says he
Speaker 1: owns his master's and copyright.
Speaker 2: Well, that could be another thing too.
Speaker 1: That could be another thing too, cap Like, if you
Speaker 1: own your masters and your copyrights, they might invest in
Speaker 1: somebody else because it's more money to be made.
Speaker 2: I know that's true too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That can be a good point.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you some real he started to cut
Speaker 3: you off. How many artists do y'all know, man, that
Speaker 3: really were big deals that their finances don't reflect it
Speaker 3: right now? You know guys like from the nineties that
Speaker 3: have really huge records and really big careers. That was
Speaker 3: the Kindreds back in the day. How many of those
Speaker 3: guys do you see that their finances may not be
Speaker 3: all the way right? And not trying to you know,
Speaker 3: just them dudes or nothing, but just trying to make
Speaker 3: a point.
Speaker 9: Most of them meet me included, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So you know, it's a business it's a business. It's
Speaker 9: also a boys club. You know, people get to work
Speaker 9: that stay in the circle. It's a certain it's a
Speaker 9: such thing as gatekeepers or whatever, you know, a little
Speaker 9: boy's club that they're gonna they gonna keep you working
Speaker 9: if you if you get down like they get down.
Speaker 9: So I never got down like them, period. So you know,
Speaker 9: I was never invited to the Reindeer games.
Speaker 3: I say all that to say this, man, you can
Speaker 3: never you can never get in the position dude the
Speaker 3: way you think you too, big man, because I don't
Speaker 3: seen some big dudes fault.
Speaker 1: Man, he definitely, he definitely, no matter how it go,
Speaker 1: this was a mistake. There's no way he could come
Speaker 1: out on the other end and this not be a
Speaker 1: mistake because now you're making enemies.
Speaker 2: With really powerful people.
Speaker 1: Who are happened to be a lot further vested in
Speaker 1: the business you want to succeed in than you do.
Speaker 1: Not to mention again, it's like maybe you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think of what makes sense. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's gonna quit. Maybe he's like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: done with this. I'm gonna blow the lid off of it,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna ride off into the sunset. Maybe
Speaker 1: I think he just reached I said, yeah.
Speaker 2: The sunset gonna be crazy.
Speaker 3: You know in.
Speaker 4: Canada you go far off north and the sun doesn't
Speaker 4: set for months during the summer.
Speaker 8: You're stuck in the daytime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite know how this works out.
Speaker 1: Again, the culture kind of they're done with him, right,
Speaker 1: which he does have a fan base. To Kriuk's point
Speaker 1: earlier that you know he got from obviously years and
Speaker 1: years of great music and success, right that that he's
Speaker 1: going to have an audience. But Universal is tied to
Speaker 1: the people that own the arenas. Universal is tied to
Speaker 1: the people that actually streamed the music.
Speaker 2: Universal, like you.
Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying, You start to put yourself into
Speaker 1: a disadvantage because these people are connected to everybody, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and they will stop.
Speaker 2: So I don't quite know what the thought is.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a bad thought.
Speaker 3: Quick. What was his last three records? Because then his
Speaker 3: last three records do like unbelievably bad. His last three singles.
Speaker 1: He tried to drop, I mean, bad for Drake is
Speaker 1: probably not in the top twenties.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think these records even hit the top
Speaker 3: one hundred.
Speaker 2: From what I mean, well, I think he put out
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Mind. Yeah, he's obviously been struggling. He's obviously been struggling.
Speaker 1: But I also don't think he went in there and
Speaker 1: started to try to make really great records that address
Speaker 1: where he's at and gave people what they.
Speaker 2: Wanted to hear.
Speaker 5: I don't think it will matter.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still like how j Cole was able
Speaker 1: to do with that song where he tried to rewrite
Speaker 1: history and act like, oh y'all to do.
Speaker 3: Didn't get hit like this he was.
Speaker 5: I don't think like this.
Speaker 1: You know this is John came out with latinum album
Speaker 1: and the gold album in top forty songs. Joe Rule
Speaker 1: still is streets, so he understands what not to do.
Speaker 5: Rul's persona nongrada for a decade.
Speaker 8: Mm hmm yeah, but this is worse.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: That's why the company pivoted.
Speaker 1: Like this could be and remember and remember, like to John,
Speaker 1: them's situation, Remember they called a fair case. And that's
Speaker 1: when the label walked away from Shug, walked away from
Speaker 1: Jay and walked away from uh Earth at that same time,
Speaker 1: they all had caught fit. People didn't realize that they
Speaker 1: all called fair cases at the same time.
Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give a real trip off that
Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give Universe who a fair case?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, his his attorneys to mention Rico in the
Speaker 1: paperwork like that.
Speaker 8: Is it's not it's not good. It's not gonna end good.
Speaker 3: They could be going through some kind of crisis right now, man,
Speaker 3: where he's like he's gonna seem too much and he's about
Speaker 3: to tell it all. You know, you got that one
Speaker 3: homie that you take on the mission. You see the
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't be going the next day. He might be
Speaker 3: about to drop the bomb.
Speaker 1: Bro shout out to George Williams. He said, that's why
Speaker 1: we never get ahead. He's not scared to be the
Speaker 1: fall guy for the future guys. This has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with fall god.
Speaker 2: For future guys.
Speaker 1: All he's going to do is stop record companies from
Speaker 1: marketing record He's not even gonna stop anything. There's nothing
Speaker 1: for anybody else that's going to And he's not himself
Speaker 1: being a fall guy.
Speaker 2: He's point. He got another guy.
Speaker 1: He's like that guy. He's not saying, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is what the record label. If he wanted to
Speaker 1: be the fall guy and didn't want yeah, he could
Speaker 1: do it for himself. He could be like, this is
Speaker 1: how they marketed me. This is how they spent the money.
Speaker 1: I have the paperwork right here, here's the proof. Look
Speaker 1: at this, this, this, this, this. But he's doing what
Speaker 1: Gunna did. He's like, no, look what they did for him.
Speaker 1: Look at that guy over there. They did this for him,
Speaker 1: you know ex Rico so Forth and so on. You
Speaker 1: feel me, they did that for him. Now, if he
Speaker 1: wanted to be the fall guy, he would say, this
Speaker 1: is what they did for me. Hey, you know what.
Speaker 1: They falsely marketed my stuff. They made me bigger than
Speaker 1: I was. My numbers caught up and I was an
Speaker 1: Arenas so Forth and so on. That's if he was
Speaker 1: trying to be a fall guy or a martyr or
Speaker 1: or or Jesus type of person in that regard, he
Speaker 1: would take the responsibility. He would not be pointing at
Speaker 1: who he could consider his Judas as Jesus didn't be
Speaker 1: like it was Judas. It was like whatever feemy Draken,
Speaker 1: like Drake Peno Brown in the court room.
Speaker 9: On New Jack City, damn and Drake Drake low key
Speaker 9: like Howard Hughes. You've seen a Howard huge story in
Speaker 9: The Eccentric went crazy and the big ass man just
Speaker 9: start peeing in bottles and lining them up, grew on
Speaker 9: his fingernails all along.
Speaker 8: Drake, might you might need to get that little fifty
Speaker 8: one to fifty watch.
Speaker 2: My boy was like me, no, he was like it
Speaker 2: was Kendrick. You a witness everybody.
Speaker 4: Drake showed up to the police department with the rape cap.
Speaker 3: G I gotta go on, pick a baby girl. I
Speaker 3: love y'all.
Speaker 2: Man in a minute, my boy, Yeah, he not.
Speaker 6: He not a fall guy. He's a I want to
Speaker 6: speak to the manager. That's what he's doing right now,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And you know, if he
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about how corrupt the industry is, he
Speaker 6: wouldn't have waited to turn the light on on his
Speaker 6: supposed enemy.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: This is this is this has nothing to do with
Speaker 6: anything righteous for the future of artistry.
Speaker 7: You feel me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 7: Will it end up being something like that, We don't.
Speaker 6: I doubt it, But okay, that would just be a
Speaker 6: byproduct of him trying to get vengeance and stay on
Speaker 6: his mission.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's not in his intentions to to save to save
Speaker 6: the music.
Speaker 7: You feel me if you're not gonna do that.
Speaker 6: So he's the first lay Yeah u MG, Like you said, man,
Speaker 6: you know they they when they start activating. Boy, let
Speaker 6: me tell you if people people don't think they had
Speaker 6: nothing to do with with with that Rico from the
Speaker 6: Color of Colorful Hair.
Speaker 7: Guy, you know what, they stay out their minds.
Speaker 6: So my whole thing is, like you said, they got
Speaker 6: a lot of power and this ain't gonna unfold how
Speaker 6: him and his team thought.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't know, Bro, like he crashing out,
Speaker 7: You feel me like he crashing out right now? That's
Speaker 7: all that's all he doing.
Speaker 1: He was smartier right now there he is, come for Kenny,
Speaker 1: the educated brother from Compton. That's who the real leader
Speaker 1: of this, this this ambition Undertaker is doing.
Speaker 4: If Dre was smart, he should have paid another artist
Speaker 4: to sue and paid for the legal fish.
Speaker 2: Oh Man shout out to Flocko.
Speaker 1: He said, come on, big bro, Drake is doing this
Speaker 1: for the people like us who preach against corrupt infrastructure.
Speaker 1: We should be celebrating this. This is bigger than Kendrick
Speaker 1: and Drake. I would buy that what they did for
Speaker 1: him and his business. He come out and break the
Speaker 1: industry in half. All you got to do is like,
Speaker 1: this is what they did for me. They made this work.
Speaker 1: I know they spent this money. Here's the proof. He
Speaker 1: could talk about everything, but when he's pointing at Kendrick,
Speaker 1: That's why it's not about preaching against the corrupt infrastructure,
Speaker 1: bro the benefactor.
Speaker 6: He is suing them for a song called not Like
Speaker 6: Us by Kendrick Lamar. That's what the fuck this is about, Bro,
Speaker 6: like not try to you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 6: the most positive thinking brother you can fucking meet, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. But he's not going to go
Speaker 6: into the land of fairy tale. The motherfucker said, Yo,
Speaker 6: not like Us. It's the craziest fucking the Tommy nuclear
Speaker 6: bomb that ever dropped on the rapper's head. And like
Speaker 6: that ship everywhere I go, they planned it in the
Speaker 6: World series.
Speaker 7: He's trying to it has nothing to do with that
Speaker 7: other ship.
Speaker 6: Now, like I said, if it becomes a if that
Speaker 6: other ship becomes a byproduct, please believe it is not
Speaker 6: his intention because simply put like you said, Gee, he's
Speaker 6: pointing his finger. Bro, He's pointing his finger and he's saying, Yo,
Speaker 6: this is what they did for him, and I'm going
Speaker 6: to expose it.
Speaker 7: If not like us as a dud. We never had
Speaker 7: this conversation.
Speaker 2: And poet Clocko.
Speaker 1: When you told me the album dish, I didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: You were right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you predicted it, Flocko. Hip hop
Speaker 1: is street urban culture. The first time we talk on
Speaker 1: your platform on No Jumper, I explained it to you.
Speaker 1: It's artistically expressed street urban culture. It's the way you act, walk, talk.
Speaker 1: Everything about it is that it's not It doesn't lead
Speaker 1: with music first. The confusion is that it leads with
Speaker 1: music first. No, it leads with culture first. If it
Speaker 1: led with music, Chief Keith win it sold three records.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Chief Keith, but he ain't quite Herbie Hancock,
Speaker 1: he's not quite Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson. You know
Speaker 1: it's music isn't quite you know, Ray Charles, you know
Speaker 1: he's not on a piano playing.
Speaker 2: You feel me. That type of couldn't work if it
Speaker 2: was music first.
Speaker 1: If that was the case, then Leon Haywood's song would
Speaker 1: be multi platinum and Doctor Dre's song would have only
Speaker 1: sold you know, g would have sold five thousand if
Speaker 1: it was about music, because the music in these other
Speaker 1: genres is superior the music. Now when you add in
Speaker 1: the fact that hip hop is about culture, it's about
Speaker 1: discovery and people that don't have a voice, and a
Speaker 1: movement of people that refuse to be ignored and determine
Speaker 1: to let you know they exist and talk about their
Speaker 1: experience in this very small minute population in America. All
Speaker 1: it's very few ghettos that create the stuff that we're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's what hip hop is about,
Speaker 2: and that's what we come for.
Speaker 1: See, I've never been confused and thought to myself, we
Speaker 1: come from music again, Like right now, people ask me
Speaker 1: all the time, you gonna listen to more new artists.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'm actually listening for music now now
Speaker 1: I'm not listening for culture. I'm like, well, what actually
Speaker 1: sounds good. I'm gonna go play Hall of Noakes. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go play Prince. I'm going to go discover
Speaker 1: the third Marvin Gaye album because I'm going to listen
Speaker 1: to music, but when I listen to hip hop, I
Speaker 1: listen for culture, I listen for lingo, I listen for style,
Speaker 1: fashion representation, and then music. So again, it's like when
Speaker 1: you was asking me how that battle will play out.
Speaker 1: It's a guy with culture that understands culture versus a
Speaker 1: guy with no street urban culture zero. He's been kind
Speaker 1: of like impersonating it. It's like asking me, you know what,
Speaker 1: a in a soul ful competition, who would win? Like
Speaker 1: Eminem's Prime Eminem or Kentucky Fried Chicken. There's nobody in
Speaker 1: the world that's going to taste both soul fools. You
Speaker 1: asking me who in King Tacos or Taco Bill, anybody
Speaker 1: would taste buds.
Speaker 2: It's going to work.
Speaker 9: Where it's a certain type of taste buds Because to me,
Speaker 9: it's like also like uh, Godzilla and King Kong, right,
Speaker 9: the machine made them both global monsters, but when it
Speaker 9: comes to them battling each other, one of them got
Speaker 9: way more weapons than the other one, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying on that On that scene.
Speaker 4: It to me like it was like when I first
Speaker 4: started seeing the comments and some of the posts about
Speaker 4: this on social media, the wagons circled so fast. They
Speaker 4: circled so fast, and like this is is is South stupid.
Speaker 4: It's kind of funny. You three guys haven't been on
Speaker 4: that side of the wagons like I feel. How the
Speaker 4: wagons circle on to be You know, it happens fast
Speaker 4: and you see it boom and it doesn't unhappen, and
Speaker 4: everybody in the room knew it. And it was cool
Speaker 4: for Drake until Drake just did that little thing to
Speaker 4: give him the excuse. And he did it, and he
Speaker 4: capitalized on it, and they just went and he was
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 2: It happened so fast.
Speaker 7: I got a question, where does Drake go from here?
Speaker 2: He justss he has to wait until he's nostalgic.
Speaker 8: I think I think he would never do this.
Speaker 10: But if he, if he apologized, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 10: if he if he apologized to the culture and embraced
Speaker 10: you know, reality instead of playing like he was God
Speaker 10: and trying.
Speaker 8: To son everybody.
Speaker 9: And you know, because you on this, I'm rich and
Speaker 9: I'm balling and I'm playing these money games, and you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, you have to break it all
Speaker 9: the way down.
Speaker 8: And get with some real people. Do it.
Speaker 9: Do a whole lot of charity. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 9: you gotta do a whole lot of Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: You have to actually come clean and be for real.
Speaker 1: You have to be genuine. Shout out to Big China.
Speaker 1: Blogger said he bullies people legally and he really wants
Speaker 1: to sue that. I believe that too. Shout out the tree,
Speaker 1: he said, Invite him to the podcast, man, d wouldn't
Speaker 1: come to this. Drake wouldn't come to that podcast.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: It's funny because we wouldn't even be talking about this stuff,
Speaker 1: but he would be so mad and upset that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't really, you know, be okay with the conversation.
Speaker 2: Hold on, this is this is head called him? Let
Speaker 2: me see what he talking about? Like, what up? I
Speaker 2: can't call it.
Speaker 1: I got you on the live stream with me, Crooked
Speaker 1: Cam and Pete.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry nobout.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that when you call me, is required that
Speaker 1: you say cuz that's how everybody greets me, all the
Speaker 1: white lawyers managers to say what's up?
Speaker 2: Because when he called me, like what's up? Because come on,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 11: To understand the process behind the goings on.
Speaker 2: What the going is on is we can't figure it out.
Speaker 1: We've been trying to discover and what's going on for
Speaker 1: the last hour and thirty five minutes, and none of
Speaker 1: us is really close. Because the best thing I heard
Speaker 1: came from a comment where somebody said he owns his
Speaker 1: master's and copyright in his new contract. So maybe that's
Speaker 1: why they could favor Kendrick over him, But I still
Speaker 1: don't understand why that would bother him to the point
Speaker 1: to where he would sabotage his business future with UMG
Speaker 1: and affiliates.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I get to.
Speaker 1: I still don't think so, because I would imagine the
Speaker 1: money with Drake and where they have positioned him to
Speaker 1: is incredible.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't makes sense.
Speaker 1: So the most the most realistic, you know, solution is
Speaker 1: he's having in an emotional outbreak and he has the
Speaker 1: kind of money that people are not saying, hey, this
Speaker 1: is not a wise idea.
Speaker 11: I don't think there's any one probably around that's going
Speaker 11: to culturally navigate.
Speaker 1: Him, and that's again the same problem Cam said. Crooet
Speaker 1: asked a question, he said, what would it take to
Speaker 1: get Drake back into a decent position, and Cam said
Speaker 1: he'll never do this, but to apologize to the culture
Speaker 1: into everything else about what he's been doing and decide
Speaker 1: to himself he's going to become more of a humanitarian
Speaker 1: and look out for the culture that he's benefited off.
Speaker 2: Of and work from there.
Speaker 1: But again, it would take a level of self awareness,
Speaker 1: like conscious to where you can understand what's happening. And
Speaker 1: I definitely do not believe he has his self aware
Speaker 1: to understand and you know, possible consequences for misusing the
Speaker 1: culture this way to the benefit of just making money
Speaker 1: and feeling like the equivalent is empowering a couple of
Speaker 1: other rappers, which really still gives you the same credibility,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't think Drake
Speaker 1: is one of these people who don't. I think he
Speaker 1: definated the schools and he tries his best, but this
Speaker 1: is something really deep, like this is a really you know,
Speaker 1: we're hard on each other.
Speaker 2: He had community wise over this.
Speaker 1: We are hard over people who've really been through this,
Speaker 1: let alone people who didn't go through this. So I
Speaker 1: mean it requires a shout out to either seventy eight.
Speaker 1: The answer is it requires humility and you can forget
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's numerous there's a couple of individuals who have
Speaker 11: experenced a lot of humility over the last few years.
Speaker 3: I progress with the system.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, all right, I'm here you once we finished, so.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I crooked. I think we then
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time. Cam.
Speaker 1: I think we just spent a lot of time trying
Speaker 1: to figure out I don't have the answer.
Speaker 7: So the answer comes back to a Kendrick song.
Speaker 8: Be humble, mm hmm. Is that gonna happen?
Speaker 1: And that'll do it? Much love to y'all, Man, see
Speaker 1: y'all Wednesday at noon. Man he thanks Crooking, Thanks big Bro,
Speaker 1: Cam Pete. We back here Wednesday. Make sure y'all go
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