WEBVTT - No Ceilings: Conversations About Drake’s Lawsuit 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.320 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:26.520 loaw glasses malone check check check. Yeah, we're finna get 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.400 to it. An emergency broadcast. You feel me for today 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:35.760 because uh, it's some unprecedented, unprecedented things that's happening in 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:40.760 hip hop. Crooked Cam, they've been in hip hop before 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.800 I even thought about getting this thing we called the 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.640 record business. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:46.519 You feel me. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.400 They they've they've Yeah, they've been in this thing for 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.040 I even thought about being a rapper anything. And I'm 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.040 sure this is a first for them. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.880 I'm sure this is a first for them. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.120 So we go really get into this conversation really quick 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.480 soon as still pops back on here so we could 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:13.360 adjustice screen. But it's definitely one of those days. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.560 Pete. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.520 Did you read up on it? 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:16.680 I read up on it a bit, and I don't 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.839 know that much in this particular area of civil law, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.000 but I know this much. When a rap beef bleeds 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.240 into the course, I'll put my money on the half 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.920 Jewish guy every single day and twice on the shops. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.400 Yeah, I have zero faith is gonna work out for him. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.160 I don't think he Jewish Enough's cotton the rock. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:40.760 At the hard Place. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.880 I think you've played against the real This ain't the 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.240 South Bay Lakers. He played against the Los Angeles Lakers. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.760 It's a different game. It's a different game. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.560 Up here with the real Unsino Lakers. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.040 Still is slowing the stream down? Come on still? Where 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.000 you at? 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:03.840 There you go? 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:11.200 There you go. I was looking. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.600 You're a great You never looked at you. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.480 You put it on your phone instead? 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.760 Man, Yeah, I want to put it on my phone 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.160 when he tell be playing. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.480 Around we got that bad audio happening. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.440 Yeah, man, you know what. I don't know what it is, broke, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.760 but I ain't never done that before anyway. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.360 No Silings live the Lunch Hour. No, no, this is 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.880 the podcast. We're just doing it live. This is an 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:44.520 unprecedented time in hip hop, in rap music. Some of 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:49.000 this stuff never in life happened. I cannot believe this 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:53.120 is happening. This is an important time. So I brought 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.720 some really special people. I brought Crooked Eye, and I 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:01.880 brought my big brother Cam. I brought my brother Pete, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.200 and I brought Stell so we could really unpack this thing. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:11.680 Because I've been talking to my homeboy lit Pappy, he 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.880 Poppy is driving me crazy. It's silliness and people are 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:22.720 not being honest about what they are witnessing. Cap you 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.800 should be in court right now. You should be in 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.600 court right now because you are in a battle. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.120 Somebody should sue you. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.800 He lawyer. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:46.320 The reason we are here is Drake. Drake has soon. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:53.160 He accuses you MG and Spotify of manipulating the market 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:58.440 to artificially inflate Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.200 The court filing claims un GU, Spotify, and Apple Serie 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:09.880 to push Not Like Us over Drake tracks. Employees perceived 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.160 as lawyer to Drake were allegedly fired as part of 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:18.679 an effort to cover up un g's action. UMG paid 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:24.040 influencers and radio stations to boost Lamar's songs without disclosure. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:30.599 A whistleblower revealed Box generated thirty million early streams for 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:37.240 Not Like Us. Drake is accusing UMG and Spotify of 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:44.359 violating the RICO Act and a New York law h 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:50.320 I mean so bad he decided to sue his own 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.839 label that they are both signed to. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:55.479 Now. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.760 Listen, Crooked, listen, Cam, y'all have been in hip hop 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.680 for sure, big Bro, you've been in hip hop as 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.480 long as I can remember. Yeah, Crookeet, you've been in 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.920 hip hop at least thirty years for sure, for sure, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.479 for sure. Now not at the professional level, I would imagine. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.480 I don't know if he was professionally signed in nineteen 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.599 ninety four, but I know it was getting close to 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.040 when Cricket I was getting his first record deal around 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:23.599 not within that six seven years. Is this by far 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:28.920 the greatest distract of all time? Just at least off 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.200 of the reaction, off of the behavior. See I know 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:46.000 when I'm talking to g he said the greatest, greatest. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.440 So with that being said, I can agree with you 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:55.799 on that, big Bro. It's the biggest. It's the biggest 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:56.200 to ever. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.360 You know what I'm saying, Like, well, it had you know, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.320 the table has been set for it to become one 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.400 of the greatest disrecords ever because we are in the 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:10.080 social media technology streaming era, and the globe is connected 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.680 in ways that the globe was not connected with some 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.000 of our favorite disc records. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.720 Drop, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.200 So the table is set for it to be one 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.000 of the greatest, if not the greatest, this record. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.400 And let me just put this out here. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.960 Same day that it dropped, I went on record on 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.760 my Instagram same day and I said, Kendrick just dropped 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.000 the top five disc record of all time. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:34.120 You know what I'm saying. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.480 And they can go back and check my Instagram same 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.400 day a drop because. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.479 I understood the frequency he was on. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.719 I understood that he was touching a nerve and he 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.680 was moving the street culture in a way that you know, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.520 once the youngins in the streets get something, it's very 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.599 hard to stop, you feel me. So he did that 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.279 and I recognized it right away. So yeah, I ain't 0:06:59.320 --> 0:06:59.680 mad at that. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:05.840 Set me bro, big bro, you you you released this 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.440 tracks in the history of West Coast music, one of 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:17.640 the most scathing disc tracks, like like hot acid, burn 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.600 skin off your body. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.000 Mmhmm. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.360 I think man, I think it's the greatest man. You know, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:34.000 every every generation had a had a sound that they 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.440 think is is tight, you know to the youngsters. Now 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.520 we might sound out dated or something like that. So 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.880 this is the language, just the vibe. This the frequency 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.760 that the youth is on, and the youth always run revolution. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.800 You know, you got older here is like like myself 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.280 might be behind the scenes trying to trying to give 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.280 guidance to them. But the youth gonna do what they're 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.440 gonna do. You know what I'm saying. The youth is 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.320 gonna they gonna run it. And uh, from what I 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.960 can see, this is this is the greatest dis record 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.640 of all of all time. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.280 Like, you know, what. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:10.600 Could you imagine if if Q would. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.520 Assuthe you did? 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.640 But I mean it happened, na. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:19.920 Big bro. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.040 You you you saw Hupac. You saw hit him up 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.600 up close and personal. Yeah right, like still you saw 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.280 hit him up close, up close and personal. You saw 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.520 no vassiline. You were coming into your adulthood around that time. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.360 You know, you was barely hitting twenty. You saw ether. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.800 Have you ever saw a dis track that made somebody 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.640 react like this? You even saw fifty this job ruthe. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.440 Man, this is the worst. This is the craatest dis 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.320 track of all time. It's almost like he's pulling this 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.839 dude in Gona. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.839 Tell absolutely this dude is crying. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.640 Man, this dude is really sad right now. And I'm 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.679 gonna tell you what it is. This dude is almost 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:10.959 just being overwhelmed right now. Man, Kendrick, You know, not 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.600 only did he slapt him around with the record, but 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.760 then he comes out with one of the greatest albums of. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.880 All time, is a really great album. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.760 So this dude is just like, he's just discombobulated right now. Man, 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.240 i'ma be real with you. I'm really worried about Drake 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.280 right now. Man, I'm thinking about calling my people because 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.400 they didn't even play with I think he's something from depression. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:30.600 Man. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.800 This dude might mess around, timp off a bridge or something. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.280 Man, he need that wellness check. Man. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:43.200 Well, Canadians are not a wartime people, and that's not. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.120 What I'm I'm being dead serious. I ain't joking, man, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.400 Drake is going through something right now, and ain't nobody 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.480 in this camp man enough to tell a man you're 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.920 looking real crazy right though? Man, you think he cares 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.040 about you? 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.520 Think he cared about the optics, because I'm sure when 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.120 you are a big a brand as big as Drake, 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.760 everything that you do is well at least communicated amongst 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:14.040 your team. So they had to understand that it would 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.320 be some backlash. Even though we in a different era 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.000 like this era, It's been proven over the last decade 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.920 that a rapper can damn near do anything and if 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.120 he drop a hot song, it'll be forgiven. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.560 He fuck, he don't drop a couple of duds in 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.079 the road. Dog, it's over with Dog. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.880 I think this is different, like the house has been 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.439 burned down. Like I in the first seventy two hours, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:50.080 I was like this song not that beyond the verses, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.880 I haven't heard this track that had to hook it 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.120 like rocked, like in the club and shit like that. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.160 But besides that, what Kendrick did. He kicked Drake out 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.800 of a community. He did that in seventy two hours. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.000 He made him walk that they were all at they 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.920 he made him walk the plank and he's trying to 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.440 sue his way back onto the boat. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.920 So so do you think so do you think that 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:16.880 is uh? 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.640 That his personal community that he's built up, that's a 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.000 pretty big community. I mean when I'm on when I'm 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:32.160 on Elion's Act, they already saying he not suing Kendrick, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.760 He's swing. UMG, this ain't about the rap beef. This 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.200 is about business that he has a lot of people 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.079 already forming that perspective and trying to push that narrative. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:50.000 You gonna understand this was right for He's like Taylor Swift. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.520 He like the Backstreet Boys. You go ahead, the little 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.400 fan based like Beyonnest they got to be he go ahead. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.439 The drinks whatever they call these, the drinks. You have 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.560 the tricks in this corner like ye. But I'm gonna 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:01.920 tell you, man, I heard this man's. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.280 Mom even locked him out the house dog. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:05.880 He's this. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:11.000 This is the of getting knocked out and then like trying. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:16.480 To readjudicate whether or not the guy had juiced up gloves. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.320 I think, I think the I think what's gonna happen? 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.720 You got a worst case scenario, in the best case scenario, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.160 best case scenario. They they don't they they don't even 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.679 entertain this. Somebody in his ear telling them to go 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.120 on ahead and drop that. Don't even proceed to try to, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:40.760 you know, pursue that worst case scenario. This shit worse 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:41.959 than Epstein list dog. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:42.679 Because what's. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.719 What's gonna happen is is everybody every like Box. To 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.480 the people out there who are not inside the industry, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.800 they might think, wow, somebody using Box, But everybody in 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.040 this room right now understands that Box and AI gets 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.400 used all the time for some your favorite artists, most 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.319 of your favorite artists, your artist, your favorite artists might 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.119 not even. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.440 Know that it's being that Box are being used. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.480 It ain't like Kendrick is sitting at a computer in 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.480 a farm with a thousand devices, so it don't it 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.679 don't touch him anyway. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.240 But the whole thing is all these people using bots. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.960 So the domino effect and the blowback of trying to 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.480 bring all this to the forefront, and you're gonna bring 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.520 down some of the biggest artists known to men, and 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.960 then the whistleblower doesn't usually come out clean on the 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.040 other side of that, you feel me, So this could 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.240 be something like this is only the tip of iceberg. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.080 Y'll like, this man is pishing in the wind, though, Bro, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.560 you don't think he's using box. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.839 Man, Listen, he might not think he using box. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.360 I'm gonna tell you, Bro. His upress, his upress and 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.760 his arrogance probably got him thinking I'm the greatest. I 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.959 don't have to that's really believe me. The hot blind 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.120 bling and all that stuff got bots on him and stuff. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:06.319 On it too. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.480 And why would he think because he said they're both 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 on the same label, So why would he think that 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.720 his own label only uses boss for the other guy? 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.880 And not for him, because he's the label. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:18.160 For doing it. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.880 Hey, I think he keep on playing with Luci and 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.120 Grange and then he's gonna. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:28.360 Be That's all I was about to say. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.200 I think Diddy's behind this, because now Diddy has the 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.480 second most interesting trial. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:40.480 And some Crooked said, this is why I've been saying 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:45.800 he's not hip hop, right, because there's a thing that 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.320 and I'll be honest, right, Cam who is one of 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.840 the best of us, right, the Nation of Islam cleaned 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.040 him up, got him together, Stell who's a father and 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.880 a husband and does great things, and Crooked who's been 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.000 in this business. We all still worry about the optics. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.360 That's the thing about being street. Street don't mean you 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.880 actually have to commit a crime. Street means you protect 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.640 your reputation differently because you come from a level of 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:21.760 poverty and you need to keep your reputation intact. Every 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:27.040 last person on the stage not named Pete definitely overvalues 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:32.880 their reputation, and that's the cornerstone of hip hop. Gee, However, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.960 many episodes ago, you asked me why wasn't trying to 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.360 get into fights in high school? 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:43.120 And what did I say? Too hard for me to 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.160 get my dad suit. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.120 So this is what I told him, Krook, I said, 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.880 if you want to know if your hip hop is 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:55.520 really simple, the first hip hop lesson most people get right. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.760 The first hip hop lesson is the first time you 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.720 go to school and somebody put their hands on and 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.560 you come home and you tell your mom and your father, Hey, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.880 somebody put their hands on me. If your parents say 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:15.880 you better hit them motherfuckers back, your ass is hip hop. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.800 If you outside of your house. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.120 And your friends saying you better hit them back, that's 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.560 hip hop. You know why, because hip hop is not 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.600 worried about the rules. The street is a greater sense 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.400 of justice. The street culture is a greater sense of justice. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.320 We understand justice ain't on our side, so we have 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.400 to take justice in our own hands. That's a cornerstone 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.840 of street, urban culture, hip hop. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.400 That's something we all share. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.000 I don't care if our mom was a nurse like 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:51.520 my mom, cam whatever your mom did, whatever your mom 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.800 feel me quote whatever your mom. Yeah, you better hit 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.360 him back. That father, somebody say hit him back. Didn't 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.880 nobody tell you to go tell the teacher? 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:05.400 No one place. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.040 He said, you know what, donna hit him back. Go 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.680 tell the teacher tell the principal. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.400 Matter of fact, my mama would say, you're not gonna 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.359 get in trouble if they get you in trouble. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:18.080 Mm. 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.880 So I was to peat that, and I asked Pete to. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.560 Prove it, and Pete said this fire told him you 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:26.800 better not hit nobody back. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.080 I don't need no reason for nobody to sue me, right. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:32.560 Yeah. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.480 And and the worst fight I saw in high school, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.679 some dude got his block knocked the fuck off. His 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.480 dad had to write a six figure checker. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:42.000 Mm hmm. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:50.439 Damn man that he got his block knocked off and 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:51.960 he chose to sue. 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.840 Y'all picture of Dwayne Wayne mean, I'm from a different world. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:10.280 Man, Oh man, I don't know how to feel. This 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.919 is almost unbelievable. So, yes, Crook, I'm with you. I 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.240 think he's not worried about the optics. But his problem 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:22.320 is he's worried about the optics. That's the only thing. Like, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.400 because he's not hip hop in culture and being raised, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:31.800 he don't quite understand what's happening. But because he's idolized 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.600 his culture like tons of basketball players, he's idolized culture 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.840 like tons of people on outskirts right that they start 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:43.040 to participate right, and then they start to try to. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.360 Live up to the. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.719 To the to the rules, to the foundation of it, 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.600 you know, to the point where even when he got robbed, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.000 he told the police and he felt like, you know, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.080 it was things that he did that really threw me off. 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.560 And I'm like, but I never thought he was street crooked. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.919 When I first I never thought he was street. I'm like, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.200 this is a good dude. Like, it's a good kid. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.200 You know, you just nigg we the same. I'm like, yeah, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:07.840 he's a good kid, you know what I mean. So 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.400 it was weird to me that when his music started 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.520 to get street and it started talking about hurting people 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:19.280 and spending the lilt and talking tough, and I'm like, yeah, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.880 it's just music. And then I realized when I first 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.320 started to you remember quick, when I would call you, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.200 when I was just getting the grasp on what hip 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.320 hop was from a true cultural standpoint, I was figuring 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:30.919 it out, and I was like. 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.280 Oh, he not hip hop. And I didn't think anything. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.240 Wrong with it because I thought he was an unbelievably 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:37.280 talented musician. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.240 I never cared if he was or was it right? 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:42.159 You feel me? 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.960 It was like he was extremely dope, like this dude 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.080 was a master. But then I noticed when I read 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.320 it publicly talking to Charlemagne in the interview, and like 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.439 it was like a kind of an attitude from his 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.479 team to me, and I'm like, wait a minute, are 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.560 y'all mad at me for saying this? And it's like 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.760 they wanted people to really. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:10.480 Believe that he was street. I went through the same 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:11.200 thing with Rose. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.719 It was like I'm saying something I get, you know, 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.159 like because I make street rap, I have to be 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.479 honest and be a lot more transparent because you know, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.680 everybody else that's that's competing in the competing space, you know, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.719 I mean, they get to kind of fantasize it. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.680 They get to you know, like I was saying, Ross, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.240 you know who's in my top five? 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.320 Like he could say he got ninety eight million dollars 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.800 in the Bank of American bank account, or you know 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.199 Creavior or he named himself after a guy that I 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:38.960 actually wove. 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.119 And you know, I wasn't it wasn't no shame crooked 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.320 on Olivia, but it wasn't no shade. It was just like, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.240 these are obvious truths. Niggas was making at me, and 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.479 I'm like, do you think you fooling people? 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:58.119 Yes, if I'm crazy or if they crazy? Because I'm like, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:20:59.720 are they fooling people? 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:05.800 So that's where we come to this situation at hand. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.840 It's like a magician telling everybody how the magic tricks 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.520 are performed. When you get up here, you start talking 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.920 about these bots and this AI and this stream shit, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.560 you about to pull back the curtain and show everybody 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.560 the wizard of Alls. You feel me, and let me 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:30.760 tell you they're not playing about this bro. Fifteen twenty fifteen, 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.800 I did a show called One Shot. I created this 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.040 show for BT Rap Competition, all this kind of good stuff. 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.280 One of the real current judges good dude, family man. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.600 I met his kids, I met his wife. Family man. 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:47.439 You know what I'm saying, real good dude. We had 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.600 a successful season. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.320 It was great. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.959 A couple of years went by, everybody started doing their 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:53.680 own little thing. 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.080 We all went back to our respective corners. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.760 This year, I woke up and his face was all 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.240 over the news, and I was like, what is he 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:08.359 doing all over the news? Feds yanked them out of 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.520 his crib in front of his kids, and his wife 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.560 arrested him and charged them with an accusation that he 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:23.680 used AI and bots and manipulated streams to generate ten 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:24.959 million dollars for himself. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.359 And they are. 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:34.480 Saying that this is one of the biggest streaming crimes 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:41.280 since they started passing laws against fraudulent streams. That man 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:46.480 owns businesses, homes, He's a hard working dude. They snatched 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:50.640 him straight up. They not playing about that shit, bro, 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:58.879 unless you are with the machine. Then they turned the 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.120 other was permitted to chieve. 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:03.439 Do you know what this reminds me of? 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.320 No, It's like, this is what I kind of think 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:07.680 it is. 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.600 If this is Drake's second L he's ever taken since 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:13.560 that he was born. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:14.680 What was his first L? 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:17.880 Not push your tea? 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:27.560 I mean that was a speed bump that didn't impact anything. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.679 This reminds me of Hillary Clinton losing the election in 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:35.359 twenty sixteen and blaming it on the Russians, like a 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.600 total shock and disbelief, and I like, this can't be possible. 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.840