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Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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Speaker 1: loaw glasses malone check check check. Yeah, we're finna get

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Speaker 1: to it. An emergency broadcast. You feel me for today

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Speaker 1: because uh, it's some unprecedented, unprecedented things that's happening in

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Speaker 1: hip hop. Crooked Cam, they've been in hip hop before

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Speaker 1: I even thought about getting this thing we called the

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Speaker 1: record business.

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Speaker 2: You feel me.

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Speaker 1: They they've they've Yeah, they've been in this thing for

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Speaker 1: I even thought about being a rapper anything. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure this is a first for them.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure this is a first for them.

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Speaker 1: So we go really get into this conversation really quick

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Speaker 1: soon as still pops back on here so we could

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Speaker 1: adjustice screen. But it's definitely one of those days.

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Speaker 3: Pete.

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Speaker 2: Did you read up on it?

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Speaker 4: I read up on it a bit, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know that much in this particular area of civil law,

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Speaker 4: but I know this much. When a rap beef bleeds

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Speaker 4: into the course, I'll put my money on the half

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Speaker 4: Jewish guy every single day and twice on the shops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith is gonna work out for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he Jewish Enough's cotton the rock.

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Speaker 5: At the hard Place.

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Speaker 1: I think you've played against the real This ain't the

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Speaker 1: South Bay Lakers. He played against the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 1: It's a different game. It's a different game.

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Speaker 5: Up here with the real Unsino Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Still is slowing the stream down? Come on still? Where

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Speaker 1: you at?

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Speaker 2: There you go?

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Speaker 3: There you go. I was looking.

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Speaker 5: You're a great You never looked at you.

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Speaker 2: You put it on your phone instead?

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I want to put it on my phone

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Speaker 3: when he tell be playing.

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Speaker 2: Around we got that bad audio happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know what. I don't know what it is, broke,

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Speaker 3: but I ain't never done that before anyway.

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Speaker 1: No Silings live the Lunch Hour. No, no, this is

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We're just doing it live. This is an

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Speaker 1: unprecedented time in hip hop, in rap music. Some of

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Speaker 1: this stuff never in life happened. I cannot believe this

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Speaker 1: is happening. This is an important time. So I brought

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Speaker 1: some really special people. I brought Crooked Eye, and I

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Speaker 1: brought my big brother Cam. I brought my brother Pete,

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Speaker 1: and I brought Stell so we could really unpack this thing.

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Speaker 1: Because I've been talking to my homeboy lit Pappy, he

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Speaker 1: Poppy is driving me crazy. It's silliness and people are

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Speaker 1: not being honest about what they are witnessing. Cap you

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Speaker 1: should be in court right now. You should be in

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Speaker 1: court right now because you are in a battle.

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Speaker 2: Somebody should sue you.

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Speaker 3: He lawyer.

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Speaker 2: The reason we are here is Drake. Drake has soon.

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Speaker 1: He accuses you MG and Spotify of manipulating the market

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Speaker 1: to artificially inflate Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us.

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Speaker 1: The court filing claims un GU, Spotify, and Apple Serie

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Speaker 1: to push Not Like Us over Drake tracks. Employees perceived

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Speaker 1: as lawyer to Drake were allegedly fired as part of

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Speaker 1: an effort to cover up un g's action. UMG paid

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Speaker 1: influencers and radio stations to boost Lamar's songs without disclosure.

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Speaker 1: A whistleblower revealed Box generated thirty million early streams for

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Speaker 1: Not Like Us. Drake is accusing UMG and Spotify of

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Speaker 1: violating the RICO Act and a New York law h

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Speaker 1: I mean so bad he decided to sue his own

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Speaker 1: label that they are both signed to.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Crooked, listen, Cam, y'all have been in hip hop

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Speaker 1: for sure, big Bro, you've been in hip hop as

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Speaker 1: long as I can remember. Yeah, Crookeet, you've been in

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Speaker 1: hip hop at least thirty years for sure, for sure,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Now not at the professional level, I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was professionally signed in nineteen

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Speaker 1: when Cricket I was getting his first record deal around

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Speaker 1: not within that six seven years. Is this by far

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Speaker 1: the greatest distract of all time? Just at least off

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Speaker 1: of the reaction, off of the behavior. See I know

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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to g he said the greatest, greatest.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, I can agree with you

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Speaker 1: on that, big Bro. It's the biggest. It's the biggest

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, well, it had you know,

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Speaker 6: the table has been set for it to become one

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Speaker 6: of the greatest disrecords ever because we are in the

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Speaker 6: social media technology streaming era, and the globe is connected

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Speaker 6: in ways that the globe was not connected with some

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Speaker 6: of our favorite disc records.

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Speaker 7: Drop, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So the table is set for it to be one

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Speaker 6: of the greatest, if not the greatest, this record.

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Speaker 7: And let me just put this out here.

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Speaker 6: Same day that it dropped, I went on record on

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Speaker 6: my Instagram same day and I said, Kendrick just dropped

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Speaker 6: the top five disc record of all time.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And they can go back and check my Instagram same

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Speaker 6: day a drop because.

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Speaker 7: I understood the frequency he was on.

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Speaker 6: I understood that he was touching a nerve and he

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Speaker 6: was moving the street culture in a way that you know,

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Speaker 6: once the youngins in the streets get something, it's very

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Speaker 6: hard to stop, you feel me. So he did that

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Speaker 6: and I recognized it right away. So yeah, I ain't

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Speaker 6: mad at that.

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Speaker 1: Set me bro, big bro, you you you released this

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Speaker 1: tracks in the history of West Coast music, one of

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Speaker 1: the most scathing disc tracks, like like hot acid, burn

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Speaker 1: skin off your body.

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Speaker 8: Mmhmm.

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Speaker 9: I think man, I think it's the greatest man. You know,

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Speaker 9: every every generation had a had a sound that they

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Speaker 9: think is is tight, you know to the youngsters. Now

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Speaker 9: we might sound out dated or something like that. So

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Speaker 9: this is the language, just the vibe. This the frequency

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Speaker 9: that the youth is on, and the youth always run revolution.

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Speaker 9: You know, you got older here is like like myself

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Speaker 9: might be behind the scenes trying to trying to give

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Speaker 9: guidance to them. But the youth gonna do what they're

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Speaker 9: gonna do. You know what I'm saying. The youth is

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Speaker 9: gonna they gonna run it. And uh, from what I

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Speaker 9: can see, this is this is the greatest dis record

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Speaker 9: of all of all time.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, what.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if if Q would.

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Speaker 8: Assuthe you did?

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Speaker 2: But I mean it happened, na.

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Speaker 3: Big bro.

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Speaker 1: You you you saw Hupac. You saw hit him up

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Speaker 1: up close and personal. Yeah right, like still you saw

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Speaker 1: hit him up close, up close and personal. You saw

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Speaker 1: no vassiline. You were coming into your adulthood around that time.

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Speaker 1: You know, you was barely hitting twenty. You saw ether.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever saw a dis track that made somebody

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Speaker 1: react like this? You even saw fifty this job ruthe.

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Speaker 3: Man, this is the worst. This is the craatest dis

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Speaker 3: track of all time. It's almost like he's pulling this

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Speaker 8: Tell absolutely this dude is crying.

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Speaker 3: Man, this dude is really sad right now. And I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you what it is. This dude is almost

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Speaker 3: just being overwhelmed right now. Man, Kendrick, You know, not

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Speaker 3: only did he slapt him around with the record, but

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Speaker 3: then he comes out with one of the greatest albums of.

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Speaker 2: All time, is a really great album.

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Speaker 3: So this dude is just like, he's just discombobulated right now. Man,

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Speaker 3: i'ma be real with you. I'm really worried about Drake

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Speaker 3: right now. Man, I'm thinking about calling my people because

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Speaker 3: they didn't even play with I think he's something from depression.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 3: This dude might mess around, timp off a bridge or something.

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Speaker 9: Man, he need that wellness check. Man.

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Speaker 5: Well, Canadians are not a wartime people, and that's not.

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Speaker 3: What I'm I'm being dead serious. I ain't joking, man,

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Speaker 3: Drake is going through something right now, and ain't nobody

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Speaker 3: in this camp man enough to tell a man you're

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Speaker 3: looking real crazy right though? Man, you think he cares

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Speaker 3: about you?

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Speaker 6: Think he cared about the optics, because I'm sure when

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Speaker 6: you are a big a brand as big as Drake,

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Speaker 6: everything that you do is well at least communicated amongst

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Speaker 6: your team. So they had to understand that it would

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Speaker 6: be some backlash. Even though we in a different era

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Speaker 6: like this era, It's been proven over the last decade

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Speaker 6: that a rapper can damn near do anything and if

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Speaker 6: he drop a hot song, it'll be forgiven.

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Speaker 3: He fuck, he don't drop a couple of duds in

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Speaker 3: the road. Dog, it's over with Dog.

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Speaker 4: I think this is different, like the house has been

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Speaker 4: burned down. Like I in the first seventy two hours,

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Speaker 4: I was like this song not that beyond the verses,

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard this track that had to hook it

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Speaker 4: like rocked, like in the club and shit like that.

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Speaker 4: But besides that, what Kendrick did. He kicked Drake out

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Speaker 4: of a community. He did that in seventy two hours.

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Speaker 4: He made him walk that they were all at they

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Speaker 4: he made him walk the plank and he's trying to

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Speaker 4: sue his way back onto the boat.

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Speaker 7: So so do you think so do you think that

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Speaker 6: That his personal community that he's built up, that's a

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Speaker 6: pretty big community. I mean when I'm on when I'm

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Speaker 6: on Elion's Act, they already saying he not suing Kendrick,

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Speaker 6: He's swing. UMG, this ain't about the rap beef. This

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Speaker 6: is about business that he has a lot of people

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Speaker 6: already forming that perspective and trying to push that narrative.

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Speaker 3: You gonna understand this was right for He's like Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 3: He like the Backstreet Boys. You go ahead, the little

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Speaker 3: fan based like Beyonnest they got to be he go ahead.

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Speaker 3: The drinks whatever they call these, the drinks. You have

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Speaker 3: the tricks in this corner like ye. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you, man, I heard this man's.

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Speaker 7: Mom even locked him out the house dog.

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Speaker 8: He's this.

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Speaker 5: This is the of getting knocked out and then like trying.

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Speaker 4: To readjudicate whether or not the guy had juiced up gloves.

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Speaker 6: I think, I think the I think what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 6: You got a worst case scenario, in the best case scenario,

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Speaker 6: best case scenario. They they don't they they don't even

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Speaker 6: entertain this. Somebody in his ear telling them to go

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Speaker 6: on ahead and drop that. Don't even proceed to try to,

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Speaker 6: you know, pursue that worst case scenario. This shit worse

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Speaker 6: than Epstein list dog.

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Speaker 7: Because what's.

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Speaker 6: What's gonna happen is is everybody every like Box. To

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Speaker 6: the people out there who are not inside the industry,

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Speaker 6: they might think, wow, somebody using Box, But everybody in

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Speaker 6: this room right now understands that Box and AI gets

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Speaker 6: used all the time for some your favorite artists, most

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Speaker 6: of your favorite artists, your artist, your favorite artists might

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Speaker 6: not even.

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Speaker 7: Know that it's being that Box are being used.

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Speaker 6: It ain't like Kendrick is sitting at a computer in

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Speaker 6: a farm with a thousand devices, so it don't it

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Speaker 6: don't touch him anyway.

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Speaker 7: But the whole thing is all these people using bots.

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Speaker 6: So the domino effect and the blowback of trying to

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Speaker 6: bring all this to the forefront, and you're gonna bring

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Speaker 6: down some of the biggest artists known to men, and

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Speaker 6: Y'll like, this man is pishing in the wind, though, Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Bro. His upress, his upress and

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Speaker 8: On it too.

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Speaker 4: And why would he think because he said they're both

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Speaker 4: And not for him, because he's the label.

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Speaker 5: For doing it.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I think he keep on playing with Luci and

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Speaker 5: Be That's all I was about to say.

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Speaker 4: I think Diddy's behind this, because now Diddy has the

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Speaker 1: And some Crooked said, this is why I've been saying

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Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, right, Cam who is one of

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Speaker 1: the best of us, right, the Nation of Islam cleaned

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about being street. Street don't mean you

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Speaker 4: And what did I say? Too hard for me to

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Speaker 1: So this is what I told him, Krook, I said,

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Speaker 1: somebody put their hands on me. If your parents say

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Speaker 2: If you outside of your house.

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Speaker 1: And your friends saying you better hit them back, that's

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Speaker 1: hip hop. You know why, because hip hop is not

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Speaker 1: We understand justice ain't on our side, so we have

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Speaker 2: That's something we all share.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if our mom was a nurse like

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Speaker 1: feel me quote whatever your mom. Yeah, you better hit

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Speaker 1: him back. That father, somebody say hit him back. Didn't

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Speaker 1: nobody tell you to go tell the teacher?

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Speaker 11: No one place.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know what, donna hit him back. Go

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, my mama would say, you're not gonna

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Speaker 8: Mm.

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Speaker 2: So I was to peat that, and I asked Pete to.

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Speaker 1: Prove it, and Pete said this fire told him you

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Speaker 2: I don't need no reason for nobody to sue me, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And and the worst fight I saw in high school,

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Speaker 4: some dude got his block knocked the fuck off. His

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Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Damn man that he got his block knocked off and

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Speaker 7: Y'all picture of Dwayne Wayne mean, I'm from a different world.

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Speaker 1: Man, Oh man, I don't know how to feel. This

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Speaker 1: is almost unbelievable. So, yes, Crook, I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: is he's worried about the optics. That's the only thing. Like,

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Speaker 1: because he's not hip hop in culture and being raised,

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Speaker 1: he don't quite understand what's happening. But because he's idolized

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Speaker 1: like tons of people on outskirts right that they start

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Speaker 2: Live up to the.

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Speaker 1: To the to the rules, to the foundation of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the point where even when he got robbed,

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Speaker 1: it was things that he did that really threw me off.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but I never thought he was street crooked.

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Speaker 1: When I first I never thought he was street. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is a good dude. Like, it's a good kid.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just nigg we the same. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I was just getting the grasp on what hip

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Speaker 2: Oh, he not hip hop. And I didn't think anything.

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Speaker 1: Wrong with it because I thought he was an unbelievably

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Speaker 2: I never cared if he was or was it right?

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Speaker 2: You feel me?

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Speaker 1: It was like he was extremely dope, like this dude

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Speaker 1: team to me, and I'm like, wait a minute, are

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Speaker 1: y'all mad at me for saying this? And it's like

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Speaker 1: they wanted people to really.

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Speaker 2: Believe that he was street. I went through the same

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Speaker 1: It was like I'm saying something I get, you know,

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Speaker 1: like because I make street rap, I have to be

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Speaker 1: honest and be a lot more transparent because you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody else that's that's competing in the competing space, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they get to kind of fantasize it.

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Speaker 2: They get to you know, like I was saying, Ross,

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Speaker 1: Like he could say he got ninety eight million dollars

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Speaker 2: And you know, I wasn't it wasn't no shame crooked

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Speaker 2: on Olivia, but it wasn't no shade. It was just like,

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Speaker 2: these are obvious truths. Niggas was making at me, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do you think you fooling people?

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Speaker 1: Yes, if I'm crazy or if they crazy? Because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: are they fooling people?

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Speaker 6: So that's where we come to this situation at hand.

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Speaker 6: It's like a magician telling everybody how the magic tricks

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Speaker 6: are performed. When you get up here, you start talking

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Speaker 6: about these bots and this AI and this stream shit,

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Speaker 6: you about to pull back the curtain and show everybody

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Speaker 6: the wizard of Alls. You feel me, and let me

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Speaker 6: tell you they're not playing about this bro. Fifteen twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 6: I did a show called One Shot. I created this

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Speaker 6: show for BT Rap Competition, all this kind of good stuff.

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Speaker 6: One of the real current judges good dude, family man.

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Speaker 6: I met his kids, I met his wife. Family man.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, real good dude. We had

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Speaker 6: a successful season.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 6: A couple of years went by, everybody started doing their

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Speaker 7: We all went back to our respective corners.

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Speaker 6: This year, I woke up and his face was all

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Speaker 6: over the news, and I was like, what is he

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Speaker 6: doing all over the news? Feds yanked them out of

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Speaker 6: his crib in front of his kids, and his wife

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Speaker 6: arrested him and charged them with an accusation that he

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Speaker 6: used AI and bots and manipulated streams to generate ten

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Speaker 6: million dollars for himself.

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Speaker 7: And they are.

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Speaker 6: Saying that this is one of the biggest streaming crimes

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Speaker 6: since they started passing laws against fraudulent streams. That man

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Speaker 6: owns businesses, homes, He's a hard working dude. They snatched

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Speaker 6: him straight up. They not playing about that shit, bro,

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Speaker 6: unless you are with the machine. Then they turned the

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Speaker 6: other was permitted to chieve.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what this reminds me of?

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Speaker 2: No, It's like, this is what I kind of think

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 4: If this is Drake's second L he's ever taken since

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Speaker 4: that he was born.

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Speaker 5: What was his first L?

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Speaker 2: Not push your tea?

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Speaker 4: I mean that was a speed bump that didn't impact anything.

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Speaker 4: This reminds me of Hillary Clinton losing the election in

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and blaming it on the Russians, like a

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Speaker 4: total shock and disbelief, and I like, this can't be possible.

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Speaker 4: I'm me, I don't take l's like this. It had

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Speaker 4: to have been manipulated by somebody outside of the system. Bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I think with Drake man, I

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Speaker 3: think Drake is the delusional guy. I think he's the

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Speaker 3: direct result of that everybody gets a trophy syndrome. That

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Speaker 3: was one of the things I hated. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: when I was coaching you football, told you I hate

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Speaker 3: the idea of everybody getting the trophy. Mm, this is

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Speaker 3: the same thing Drake doesn't think he's supposed to lose.

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Speaker 7: He's entitled.

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Speaker 3: His privilege is coming out of showing right now, how

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Speaker 3: big this dude from compt to beat me. He's not

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Speaker 3: better than me than me? This is this privilege. This

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Speaker 3: is privilege on thing. He's having a timidt answer right now.

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Speaker 2: You know what, that actually makes sense.

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Speaker 3: This is his privilege.

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Speaker 2: Privilege, bro, he really is having a privileged moment.

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Speaker 8: He got affluenza, you know how dare.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that, but that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: He's having a privileged moment.

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Speaker 5: HM.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he called doc Nick the

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Speaker 3: N word with hard r bro.

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Speaker 7: I'm I believe.

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Speaker 4: You that the who would he say that to?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 4: Because for people who probably around him all the time,

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Speaker 4: you know, probably aren't like on his.

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Speaker 3: Probably we're still setting their breast, whatever you're doing, still

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Speaker 3: still out here with this is ridiculous, right, you know me?

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Speaker 3: She was talking right. Everybody except everybody on this family

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Speaker 3: except one of us, is from the hood, right, everybody

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Speaker 3: from the get him. We've all lost the fight before, right,

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Speaker 3: But we never told like she was alluding to earlier.

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Speaker 3: We never went back and told nobody we just want

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Speaker 3: to fuck that dude again and again until we got

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Speaker 3: a victory, or we left him head alone, right, whatever

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Speaker 3: it was. But we didn't go tell nobody. This dude

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Speaker 3: really thinks that he has the right to go. Man,

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Speaker 3: he lost the battle, bruh. And I'm pretty sure he

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Speaker 3: done heard that album. I'm pretty you were, and he

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Speaker 3: can't one person you can't lie to You can't lie

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00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: to yourself. I'm pretty sure you don't heard that shit

444
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: and said, Man, this is really good.

445
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 7: I'm going to sue him.

446
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: He's ruined me.

447
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 6: No, all the farm owners thinking right now, this is

448
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 6: a deeper conversation, bro, because.

449
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I've always thought if you are mixed with black, you

450
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: are black, right. But then I've always thought, big bro,

451
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and this is a good thing to talk to you about.

452
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: I've always thought of black as a responsibility. It ain't

453
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: like my skin is black, right, Being black is a

454
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: desire to care for other people that have been through

455
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: the same type of struggles like myself. It's a responsibility

456
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: to be black. And I noticed it and I thought

457
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: to myself, like I used to always say he wasn't

458
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: hip hop. People thought that that was the equivalent of

459
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: me saying he's not black.

460
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: And it's like, he's black. His father is a black man.

461
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's black dog. But being black, like you said,

462
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: it's more than a skin color, man, It's a condition, man,

463
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: It's like it's a soul. Listen here, man, and think

464
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: about it.

465
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: Also, like if you're from a biracial parenting, you know,

466
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 4: or what's the word, like a conception and you're raised

467
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: by one parent, you're gonna be pretty.

468
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 5: Much that, you know what I mean.

469
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking, right, So that was

470
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: always my thing.

471
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: I got to have a lot of those conversations, right, that.

472
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Was always my thing about him not being hip hop.

473
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Right, he he was raised by his mother in the

474
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: Jewish community, going.

475
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: To Jewish because and that was always my thought, right.

476
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Man, Now I can see if he was raised Jewish

477
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, you know, you could be you hang

478
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: out onside, I guess what is you back to the streets.

479
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: But again, his serf stances, his environment. He was raised

480
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: as a Jewish man, so I always thought of him

481
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: was Jewish. But I understood his father was a brother

482
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: from Memphis.

483
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Right, But you know, like if that's not going on, and.

484
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: Like like to me, you're not biracial, there's no such thing.

485
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: You're black, if you know what I mean, you're black.

486
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: If you're black, you're black.

487
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: It don't even matter what happened because theoretically everybody come

488
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: from black people from the star. So every for sure,

489
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: if you cut it back down, you're black. So I

490
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: understood he was Jewish based off culture, minus the conversation

491
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: of race, minus the conversation of his again ethnic ethnicity.

492
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he's a jewish Man. You know,

493
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: racially he's a Negro.

494
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Right, But again, if race is not a real construct,

495
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: he would be a jewish Man. And if you think

496
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: about how he's going about this battle right now, they

497
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: really yeah, not a bad thing.

498
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 9: You got way too Trump in office, you got way

499
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 9: to January sixth. Then you can say that.

500
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I don't think it's negative. I

501
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: mean that's just culture to who.

502
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 8: His peoples are.

503
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why YouTube.

504
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: That there's a difference in that sensus saying saying like

505
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: the Jays and j Ish, But I don't know.

506
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: I'm not in charge of it.

507
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: He doesn't even know if that if that matters, man,

508
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 3: I just think that the dude don't have no culture.

509
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: Man he does, but that's my points then he already

510
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: get it.

511
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: He was raised jam.

512
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. He doesn't like when

513
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: you've never really been through nothing like you know how

514
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: you talking about him and his mom had a hard time, man, mhm, him,

515
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: him and his mom Florry Town was way different than

516
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: our parents hard time.

517
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to get to the drug Olympics. He

518
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: waste the time with that.

519
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for sure, I always thought of him

520
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: as that, but like this is next level, not hip

521
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: like I always thought he wasn't hip, but like this is.

522
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: For sure the most unhit thing he's ever done in his.

523
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: Life that I've ever saw that I saw or is

524
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: it just the most Jewish things ever done in this life?

525
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: That's my point. It makes sense when you throw because

526
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: I can't play. The Beastie Boys were still the.

527
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: Whole bunch of Jewish people on hip hop broke ain't never.

528
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: I think those people still are street like the Beastie

529
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Boys still grew up in the punk rock environment, should

530
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: be able to create the music.

531
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: So there's a level of street urbanness too it.

532
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Because again punk rock is and hip hop or step brother,

533
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: they both come from street urban backgrounds, just different you know,

534
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: mothers places on Earth. We ain't come up in the

535
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: same places. But the saying oppression or whatever miss understood,

536
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Like the Skaters cam when I was just young, the

537
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: Skaters is like that they really felt like they were

538
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, ain't Drake from the

539
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Canada streets though? Any rocking with the Hell's Angels and

540
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: all that that street no, y ain't no no, because.

541
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: For sure they wouldn't be suing nobody. It'd be a rumble,

542
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: be a squabble.

543
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask sure this crook. When't you say

544
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: that Drake is a good artist. Yeah, you know, Drake

545
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: was probably one of the biggest you know, if you

546
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: want to call him hip hop or he's one of

547
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: the biggest recording artists in the industry. I believe that

548
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: this is going to be really bad for him.

549
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Somebody's making a point shout out to. We've been trying

550
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: to figure out what it was. Shout out to, Uh

551
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: David Jones. He said, I think Crookeds mic is too.

552
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: Close to his speakers.

553
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that may be where we're getting the feed.

554
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: That could be it, because I had the same thing

555
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: happened with. I don't know, because I don't think you

556
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: got a mic.

557
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: No, I don't got a mic. I'm just on the phone.

558
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so somebody's mic may be too close to their

559
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: speakers mike right here.

560
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 7: They ain't even plugged up.

561
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: But you know what, I think it'd be to a

562
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: little bit man, to a certain extent with these things,

563
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, this is gonna be weird,

564
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: but this is gonna be.

565
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: Bad for Oh boy, you got you got your ear

566
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: pieces in or you listening to your thing.

567
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: The gonna say you probably gotta have an ear piece in. No,

568
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just my mic when you're all talking.

569
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: It's definitely it couldn't be.

570
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 9: It's coming It's coming from crook It's coming from Crook side. Okay,

571
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 9: I don't know what it was, but it's coming from that.

572
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: But we might well keep going. We can't spend a

573
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: whole bunch of time.

574
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's all good.

575
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Don't thank you, brother, You're not causing an issue, thank

576
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: you well.

577
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: So no, Ryan, right, And this is the tricky part, Ryan,

578
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: that's the bad question. I don't really want to deal with,

579
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna deal with it anyway. So everyone with

580
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: African ancestry is black, now.

581
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 8: No, not nothing.

582
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 9: Our definitely, our definition of black really is basically the

583
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 9: sentence of slave experience, the black descendants of slaves in

584
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 9: North America. So Drake is supposed to you know, he's

585
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 9: half of that, but he wasn't raised on you know,

586
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 9: on that side of the fence, so he don't want

587
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 9: that with that.

588
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into this thing like mixed

589
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: people ain't black, man, because I know a whole bunch

590
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: of down mixed people.

591
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 8: You know, well, we all mix.

592
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 9: If you're an American and you got a last name

593
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 9: that ain't African, you've been cut.

594
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: You cut. That's what I'm saying.

595
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: So it's like, that's not but that's what I'm saying.

596
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: No, So no, no, everybody that's of African descent, because

597
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Eli Musk is of African descent. It is obvious he's

598
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: not a black man. So no, you don't even got

599
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: to go that far. We don't even waste that much time.

600
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 9: No, do you think that Drake is is kind of

601
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 9: going crazy because he know, he know he's a hit maker.

602
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 9: He know he make fire music, but he don't under

603
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 9: he didn't understand the dynamics of Kendrick's you know, lineage

604
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 9: and the audience and what he represents.

605
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 8: Because Drake Drakens is a hit maker.

606
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 9: But when you start trying to come over here on

607
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 9: this fence and get into this warrior type of you know,

608
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 9: street street warrior type of thing, you're gonna catch the

609
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 9: all like you never caught before.

610
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 8: I think he you know, yeah.

611
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: Well, I just think Drake just stepped in some you know,

612
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: I think Drake just stepped in a mess. I'm gonna

613
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: tell you what it was. This is my thing. You know,

614
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: Drake was going to all the U r L battles

615
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: and I think he was just really intrigued by this

616
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: and he just thought that maybe he can get one

617
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: off on dot and just kind of bit off more

618
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: than he can shoot.

619
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: I think he's surpassing out because he can't reach the

620
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 4: audience he's always been able to reach.

621
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think, so so here let's let's my man

622
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: crook it here so I could keep some facts.

623
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: So this is some facts.

624
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Right since the days of selling records, record label's been

625
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: buying records. You really can't pay for a hit record.

626
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Your record actually gotta work, especially at any major market.

627
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Right.

628
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: You could try to get a promotional thing on, but

629
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: eventually your record got a call out. As far as

630
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: streaming and stuff, I do believe that there are some

631
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: plus ones and plus twos for streams, I believe that's happening.

632
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: But your record actually has the stream. You can't take

633
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: the record that nobody knows and make it work. And

634
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: the problem is there have been articles. There was an

635
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: article on a Rolling Stone accusing Drake of the same thing.

636
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: And before we just start using that p word, right

637
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: like the payola word, you can't still be the first one.

638
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: Can be the first one, crook me. You can't pay

639
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: for hit record.

640
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: It actually gotta be a hit record only and pay

641
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: for the promotion to have a chance to have a

642
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: hit records. Maybe if you had a small station that

643
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: don't have a million dollar endorsements deal from Pepsi's and

644
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: and Universal City Neiss. Maybe if you don't have a

645
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: station that has those, But if you have a station

646
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: that's making great money off of advertisement, you could not

647
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: pay for a hit record. So that's the first thing

648
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: your record actually has to perform.

649
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: That's a fact. I know it.

650
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: I'd have backed it up a mellion. I know it's true.

651
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: So Paola is an over stated concept.

652
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: I want to add something else to that. And Kim

653
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: You and Crooked both attested this. We used to see

654
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: people back in the day they have what you call

655
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: turntable hits. They would have these huge records at radio.

656
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: But then the first week when sound Scheme would come

657
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 3: out there to sell a thousand copies, Remember though, bring when.

658
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 8: That would happen to Cam.

659
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, people still have to go out and purchase your record. However,

660
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: is now people still have to go stream. Like you said,

661
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: you can't cheat your way to it. A big record,

662
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: not the record, not as big as something, not like

663
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: this was. You can't keep with that. It was everybody

664
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: be doing it.

665
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Drake, Drake just ain't.

666
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 9: He's not from that that world where he could be

667
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 9: battle rapping like real street street dudes, like it's just

668
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 9: the culture won't allow it. It's just like a governor

669
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 9: on the culture. It was just it's just, you know,

670
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 9: it just won't allow it. If he stuck to his

671
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 9: singing hooks and all that he has smashed Kendrick. If

672
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 9: Kendrick came over to his side of the fence and

673
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 9: trying to he would ruin his own career. But Drake

674
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 9: is the one that made the mistake and came over

675
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 9: here and he stepped on some landlines.

676
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: And that's a great point.

677
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: He he didn't have to be this at first, right,

678
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: he didn't have to be this at first. Again, everybody,

679
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: this is No Silings Live. The YouTube link is hold on.

680
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share it on Twitter.

681
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 8: Uh.

682
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: It goes live on the YouTube on a No Salis podcast.

683
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brothers for coming down and making

684
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: it happen with me. Let me tweet this link. Yes

685
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: it's crooked phone for sure, for sure. Damn that dude caught.

686
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: He must be like an engineer or something. I don't

687
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: know how you caught that. So again, he had the

688
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: game in his hand when he first came to the

689
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: like when he first came to cash money.

690
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: Because he was actually the genuine article.

691
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: He was a really great talent actor, you know what

692
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he was he had been a part

693
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: of a he had been a part of a TV

694
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: show that was doing well. He was well trained, prepared

695
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: as an entertainer, and he wasn't too shabby. On the

696
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: record side, he was a killer. Like he was a

697
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: monster at making records. Like I remember the first time

698
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: meeting him and then hearing his records and being like,

699
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is the same dude that made

700
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: both of these.

701
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: It almost seemed possible.

702
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: He's the first reverse engineer rapper.

703
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

704
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: Every other rapper has gone from inner city to suburbs.

705
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: He did it the other way.

706
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: And that's what I think is killing him, right, Pete, because.

707
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: Because he could only go so far in before you

708
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: get too far, you can never go too far out.

709
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to go all the way in.

710
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: And now like he's in this weird space to where

711
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: he's trying to kind of live like the culture right

712
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: where he's doing stuff, you know, taking the situation into

713
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: his own hands, just as different small things. But it's like,

714
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: well these things still apply, Like and the Kendrick Battle

715
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: didn't do anything but show everybody that obviously culturally he's

716
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: not what you know people thought he was, which is weird.

717
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how they thought he was that.

718
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: But also it's like, not only did you turn the

719
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: culture and have the culture looking at you crazy right

720
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: within that battle, but also now you're about to.

721
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: Turn the business against you, Like the business was never

722
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: against you. The business built you.

723
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: The business gave you all the looks because you wouldn't

724
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: have came through the streets, you couldn't have went to

725
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: all the places you need to do all of that stuff.

726
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 9: He went tropic thunder. He went full uh such and such. Yeah, yeah,

727
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 9: this guy. Never go full gangster.

728
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Never go full gamester. He went full gangster. That's a

729
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: great point, big bro.

730
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, he went full gangster.

731
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: He says something about bodies to the point where I

732
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: was like, I thought that bodies meant something else.

733
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: It made me think that I didn't know what I'm

734
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 2: saying bodies, And I know.

735
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: But when I first heard him saying, I was like,

736
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: ship all this time, I thought it.

737
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 9: Meant that it must mean something different because he's yeah,

738
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 9: I thought he meant girls, like he was a girl.

739
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 8: Bodies or something, but blind. Yeah, I'm like, man, I.

740
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: Thought people getting killed it was pussy all this time.

741
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you. I don't think

742
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: killer has nothing to do with it.

743
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Man.

744
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: Let's take Eminem for example, right, has never pressed but was.

745
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 8: Raised in Detroit with That's what I'm saying.

746
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: It's a difference, bro. Eminem is really he's really with

747
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: the ships, you know what I mean.

748
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: It's a punk rock kid that grew up in Eminem

749
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 4: is very respectful of that relationship.

750
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: And I think that's because he really knows what he

751
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: really know what time it is, you know. So I

752
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: just think, man, I think this is gonna be bad

753
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: for doing. And to be honest with you, it's almost

754
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: like he just like everybody talking about Dot's album and

755
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: then he come up with this bullshit, right. It's like, man,

756
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: he just want to make it about him.

757
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 7: All right. So I got a question for y'all, what

758
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 7: are the ramifications of this case?

759
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: Because people, people are people are speculating that he's trying

760
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 6: to get off of a universal and he this is

761
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 6: the this is the movie making.

762
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: But I don't understand how could this get him off

763
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: of you accusing another artist This is like that Gunner case. Right,

764
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: This is like that Gunner case where people are confusing, right,

765
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: like what a plea is as somebody that that's took

766
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: too pleas in my life, a plea is when you

767
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: only admit to the things that you did, or you

768
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: only base it off of the things you did. In

769
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: Gunner situation, right with Thug, the reason he told on

770
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: Thug is he said he did nothing and everybody else

771
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: did everything. Now, maybe if if if Drake's case would

772
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: have been more like, you know what, the label hasn't

773
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: been paying me. They flated these streams. But he's doing

774
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: the same thing where he's like, no, this guy, they're

775
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: over here doing this for him, y'all signed to the

776
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: same people. They're doing this for him. They're doing this

777
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: for him. They're not doing they're doing this for him.

778
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: He's not even talking about what they're doing for him.

779
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: He's not even saying what they did to wrong him.

780
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: They're saying them marketing. Kendrick Lamarson, I have a problem

781
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: with it because they did it unfairly. He's not even

782
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: equating it to he's not even equating it crook to

783
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: his shit.

784
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: But that kind of does support his point though, because

785
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: he can't demonstrate standing because he hasn't been damaged by it,

786
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: you know, in the way that he's suggesting. So if

787
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: it's look, this is gonna be ugly in discovery for

788
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: us as universal and he says, hey, look, if you

789
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: guys let me out of my deal, we could drop

790
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: this right now before those discovery.

791
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Sure it's a civil case to Crooked's point, right, So

792
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: what Peter is saying makes the most sense.

793
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: The reality is maybe he kicks up.

794
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Enough dust to where they like he settles it, like,

795
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: let me out of my deal and I'll drop the

796
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: case so you don't have to present.

797
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you right now ahead of time.

798
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: U m G.

799
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Not gonna do that. They are past the point of

800
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: you bullying them.

801
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 9: Man, come on, man, Ain't nobody not going program. Ain't

802
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 9: nobody bigger.

803
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Than to bully U MG. And if he thought that

804
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: that was his plan, Mike hints learned the hard way.

805
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: But you are not going to bully these people.

806
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 5: What does he benefit from getting out of that deal?

807
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: Where's it gonna go?

808
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 8: Right now?

809
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: His values at its all time low and you want

810
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: to get out of your deal?

811
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 5: That that in itself.

812
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: Don't have a value. He will make money as an

813
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 6: independent artist. We know that.

814
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 8: How much? How much? How much y'all?

815
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 9: How much do a rapper supposed to make before you

816
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 9: feel like he don't need to have to make no more?

817
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 8: Like I don't understand that.

818
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on?

819
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: What which world do you tell on one dope man

820
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: and get another.

821
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: Even crook as an independent Which.

822
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: World do you tell on one dope man and then

823
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: people know you told on the dope man and another

824
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: plug say come over.

825
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: Here and get this money?

826
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it don't like it's not a smart plan.

827
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that he can definitely be on

828
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 6: that perspective, like yo, I could just jet out and

829
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: go independent or go somewhere else and get my bread.

830
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's a smart plan, but his value

831
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: is still there. He has value.

832
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 8: Do y'all think he's clean?

833
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 9: Just like what was really ruining his image is the

834
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 9: is the a minor that that subject?

835
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 8: Right? So is he clean enough to try to do

836
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 8: that to universal? You know what I'm saying?

837
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 9: Is he clean enough to you understand I'm saying like

838
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 9: he just smashed everything. Yeah, he just smashed everything he saw.

839
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: This man, we just saw this whole thing with Puffy.

840
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: As soon as Puffy start missing with them folks, man,

841
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: he was sitting up in the jail seal. Everybody along.

842
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to go to Puffy wants to go to

843
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: the Puffy party. And then one day overnight I was

844
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: the only person. I went from being the only person

845
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: that didn't care about going to Puff party because I

846
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: don't drink and mess with the brawl, to do no

847
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: drugs like that. Now everybody don't want to go to

848
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Puffy party. So again, trust me, he already did more

849
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: than enough for them people to hang in that. We

850
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: used to have this conversation all the time, cam like,

851
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: they're not going to let you get that far without

852
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: having something on you, right that just they're not finna

853
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: make you that. You know, they're not finna just empower

854
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: you and make you a monster, and you could just

855
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: move about the cabin for free. So I do think

856
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: Cricket is right. There has to be that would make sense. Right,

857
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: there's an idea and an intention to get out of

858
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: a deal. But the way you're going about it, first off,

859
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: you're exposing business practices that they use for all of

860
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: y'all everybody.

861
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: And furthermore, do you want to be independent and be

862
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: blackball from Spotify?

863
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: And the problem is you're not going to be blackball

864
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: from Spotify, but they're going to comb your shit everybody,

865
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: because again, the dope trade is very much the dough trade.

866
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: If you tell on somebody in the dough trade, nobody

867
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: is going to give you dope.

868
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: That's really if they kill you.

869
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: Did you the move he made when he was releasing

870
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 6: music on a website? Yes, you think that was the

871
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 6: testing grounds?

872
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: No?

873
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 5: Just how curiosity? What does an artist of that magnitude?

874
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 5: What does his deal look like?

875
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 4: Because I would assume he could kind of not craft

876
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: his own deal, but kind of craft his own deal.

877
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: What do you think his deal looks like?

878
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 3: What you think when the first we gave him crook?

879
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe twenty million.

880
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: I think it's forty. Let me let crook, oh the crook,

881
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: let me get you going.

882
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 7: They said a four hundred million dollar deal. That's what

883
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 7: they say.

884
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 6: Now we understand people be tripping and you know, say

885
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 6: anything for marketing, but they said four hundred million dollars

886
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 6: wich forward, making it even more puzzling to what as

887
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: to why you would go up against them in this

888
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 6: in this situation, it's like, what are your intentions? I

889
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 6: guess that's the that's the question, what are your intentions?

890
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 6: Because the deed is done?

891
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 9: So could it could it be could it be controlled opposition?

892
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 9: Could this be deeper than we think it is?

893
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 8: You know?

894
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith. I have zero faith that

895
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Drake is a chess player. And I think the deal

896
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: I think everybody industry adds a zero to the deal.

897
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: So if the deal was supposed to be four hundred million,

898
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: is forty million?

899
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 3: I think he might have got forty man, because the

900
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: ain't nobody give him. There's too many things that can happen.

901
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: You get somebody that money.

902
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: It depends, Like I was like, I guess who owns

903
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: the masters in that scenario? If if he's getting forty,

904
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: he must own the lion's shriff, his rights. I just

905
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: heard on good authority, like really really really good authority

906
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: of about an artist whose music I've never even heard

907
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: getting paid one hundred for his catalog and future catalog rates.

908
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all of that stuff, forgive me, hold up, krip.

909
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is fluff, Like all of that

910
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: numbers I know for sure fact I could prove it.

911
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: But all of that number is fluff. This has this

912
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: is this is an emotional response. This is an emotional

913
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: response to I believe that yeah, too too bad event

914
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: in his life that is really traumatizing him. I know

915
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: this sounds crazy because losing a rap battle to us

916
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: would probably hurt our feelings, but it probably it ain't

917
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: the end of the.

918
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: World, but.

919
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 3: An emotional breakdown.

920
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm define he really is calling this boy

921
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: the hard e r behind the door, behind closed doors.

922
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 3: Yo.

923
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 6: So let's go into the conspiracy real you know what

924
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Let's take this into the conspiracy real, real quick.

925
00:50:54,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 6: The chair of Sony Music recently said, when rap became

926
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 6: the number one genre, instead they signed a thousand rap

927
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 6: artists instead of one hundred great rap artists, and that's

928
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 6: the reason why rap is declining for them, and they

929
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 6: foresee it going back underground and coming up a lot

930
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: stronger after going back underground. So in essence, what I

931
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 6: heard was, you're gonna try to force rap music to

932
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 6: go back underground. You're defunding all these marketing budgets, you're

933
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: shifting the money to different genres. And to catalogs that

934
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 6: you already own. And that's the focus on suspending. And

935
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 6: now we're gonna try to let rap just go underground.

936
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: So is this part of that?

937
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 4: Let the laboratory pay for itself and then you purchase

938
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: the medicine when it's done.

939
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 9: So is loocien grange connection to Diddy playing any part

940
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 9: in this?

941
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 8: Are they? Are they doing some diabolical stuff behind it?

942
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: His son? His son is about to take over.

943
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 9: Well, I'm just saying that that's still connected to the

944
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 9: father though. So if they if they twist the father up,

945
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 9: the son ain't got no action. So is he trying

946
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 9: to just sink the ship? You know what I'm saying.

947
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 9: And you know, let the Titanic go down and and

948
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 9: and scatter before before that happened.

949
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Bro. I think the Universal Music

950
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 3: Group is indestructive.

951
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 8: No such thing, no such thing.

952
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 9: That's just like saying America's in destruction, you know what

953
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 9: I'm saying, camp Up.

954
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: I like I like, I like, I like America's chances

955
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: less I like you, and chance is better of being.

956
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Bro, they have a lot of money,

957
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: they have a lot of influence, bro, and it's just

958
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: not music. You know, there's a lot of people in

959
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 3: that building, a lot of big megastars. You gotta remember,

960
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: everybody any sloop over that gem. Everybody is over there.

961
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: Only is the only thing left. To some degree, It's

962
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: like two labels left.

963
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 9: And everybody ain't everybody on the Diddy Party list de

964
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 9: Steam list.

965
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: That list will never come out.

966
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 8: I don't know, never say never.

967
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: And then and then if it comes out, nobody is

968
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: going to react.

969
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: No listen, this whole Diddy Diddy travesty is all a sham.

970
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: Don't nobody care about who?

971
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Nobody care about Diddy buying no prostitutes, nobody care about

972
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: how Diddy was partying.

973
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: Nobody cared because everybody, all.

974
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Of these people, even the people in the chat, party

975
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: the same way. I am the only the honorable glasses

976
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: look the only nigga.

977
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 12: That don't party that way. And Cam the only people

978
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 12: that don't party that way. This is normal people party.

979
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 12: The reason in this matter to Diddy is because some

980
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 12: other stuff is going on. Something else is wrong. You

981
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 12: feel me so again, It's like Crooked is making some

982
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 12: compelling points. Could he be making a play to get

983
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 12: out of this deal? Because I did hear that a

984
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 12: couple of times today. This is the wrong way to

985
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 12: do it. The enemies to have if you plan to

986
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 12: be in this business.

987
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: After today, It don't even matter whether or not they

988
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: let him go. It don't even matter if they let

989
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: him go. It does not matter if they let him go.

990
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: He made the greatest mistake of his life today in

991
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: the business. He made the greatest mistake of his life

992
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: in the culture a couple months ago during the battle,

993
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: But he made the greatest mistake of his life today

994
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: challenging the business.

995
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 5: Possible for the door to.

996
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: What if we're seeing a whole trend of in the

997
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and by a couple I mean

998
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: sixty but opportunistic Department of Justice prosecutors.

999
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: He could do this walk away.

1000
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: Tomorrow and potentially entice actual criminal investigation action by people

1001
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: who want to get their name out there.

1002
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, this messing with

1003
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: somebody like Universal, it would mess around and reverse back

1004
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: on him. They would fuck around and twist him up

1005
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: somehow and start looking at this stuff. Because I'm gonna

1006
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: tell you, all he's going to do is get hisself

1007
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: further scrutinized. So if he got anything done, if he

1008
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: got anything filing his catalog, dog, he's gonna be in trouble.

1009
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: He might be sitting next to Didny somewhere. I'm telling you, man,

1010
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: these people ain't nothing to play with.

1011
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 9: They not nothing to play with. And he like he

1012
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 9: like Biden to me, or you know what I'm saying.

1013
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 9: He ain't making any decisions. He worked too much to

1014
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 9: too many people for for us to think Drake just

1015
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 9: made that decision. Somebody else's handlers is advising, somebody else is.

1016
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 8: Making him do that.

1017
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: I think mand Jones on his own reconnaissance and not

1018
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: talking to him, and that's me his destruction. Shout for

1019
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: the five dollars the petition.

1020
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: The petition is filed under a vague LLC.

1021
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: He didn't want this to go public, but they're trying

1022
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: to flip it like he's looking out for indie artists.

1023
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: That is a major boy, that David Jones. He figured

1024
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: out the audio problem.

1025
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 8: We couldn't figured it out.

1026
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: The crook.

1027
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: He is going to get replaced by David Jones.

1028
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: Twish is another no hour Monday, Wednesday and Friday at noon.

1029
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Dave, I need you at the lunch hour at twelve

1030
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific Standard time Monday, Wednesday and Friday noon.

1031
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what you got going on. You cook it. Hm,

1032
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: it's kind of late to be cooking, but you cook,

1033
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: but you cook it.

1034
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, though, Man, we

1035
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: see this all the time, and especially in music. Man,

1036
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: people allow their youth bridge to start thinking man, that

1037
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: they that they almost on the deity level. Man, and

1038
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: they find out the chorus, mh, I'm fly too close

1039
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 3: to the sun. I wound up getting heated up. I'm

1040
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: telling you, man, this is gonna end bad for dude.

1041
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it just it almost can't work out.

1042
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Like he's not.

1043
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: Like he's empowered by the business.

1044
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Like without the business, how do you like he.

1045
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 8: Ft on both both sides.

1046
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 9: Like he already got something he can't handle from from

1047
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 9: Kendrick in these West Coast and now the United States.

1048
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 8: Fans street, these street people, the soldiers.

1049
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 9: And now he want to throw a fit against Daddy

1050
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 9: or or whatever.

1051
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1052
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 8: What I'm saying is lose lose situation.

1053
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: He had to do, man, I'm pretty sure his advisors

1054
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 3: told him this. All he had to do was ship

1055
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: the fuck up and go somewhere.

1056
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: You know what's funny that we keep thinking his advisors

1057
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: is telling him that. I'm starting to really believe No,

1058
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: they're not.

1059
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: Told this.

1060
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: A long time ago, he said, glasses, people be telling

1061
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: these people whatever they want to hear. He told me

1062
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: that at an elephant bar in Lakewood. He said, Glasses,

1063
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: these people telling these people whatever they want to hear.

1064
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: They're trying to keep their business. And I equated. I

1065
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: equated that to people trying to keep their positions at

1066
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: the job.

1067
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: So they telling the payroll whatever they need to hear

1068
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: to stay on the payroll.

1069
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 9: I can see that because I can see, like did

1070
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 9: he did? He did the same thing, So I guess

1071
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 9: he didn't have no advisors to tell him to try

1072
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 9: to sue dally On or whoever that was the city.

1073
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 8: So I guess you could be right about that.

1074
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: This is all arrogance man, This is all his arrogancet man.

1075
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be his undoing because he seems to think

1076
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm Drake, I can do whatever the hell I want

1077
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: to do, and he do this, he gonna find out

1078
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: the hard way.

1079
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: He already did it.

1080
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like he already he already put that

1081
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: out there. Iteddy's lawsuit was like it wasn't about that,

1082
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: Like he filed this so they could force so he

1083
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: could force them to deliver.

1084
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: Material, paperwork and stuff about the claims.

1085
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: Like if you start getting you know, the government in

1086
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: these people business, you're gonna have a real problem.

1087
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 8: Ain't the best question.

1088
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 3: Univers will pay a lot of money. Universe will pay

1089
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: a lot of taxes. Brough. It's a lot of people

1090
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: making money off at university. You gotta remember, it ain't

1091
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: just music, it'st movies, it's liquor, it's all kind of stuff.

1092
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: They got their hands in, man and they make it.

1093
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 3: They pay a lot of money, They make a lot

1094
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: of money, and they make a lot of other people money.

1095
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 8: So the question is why, damn.

1096
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 9: Let's let's look at why if Drake is accusing him

1097
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 9: of that, why would they do that to Drake?

1098
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 8: Why? What would their motivation?

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Speaker 3: Bro? That's Drake in his mind?

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Speaker 9: No, I mean, just let's let's humor that though. Let's

1101
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 9: let's just try to go down that little rabbit hole

1102
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 9: for a second. What would they have against Drake? Why

1103
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 9: would they favor Kendrick over Drake?

1104
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: It would be almost kind of like the way you see,

1105
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 4: you know how, like with regard to certain like virality algorithms,

1106
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: when something starts to get hot, they go like the

1107
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: algorithm identifies it. It went from zero to one thousand,

1108
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: like really fast, so it will flood it. So it

1109
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: goes from one thousand to ten million. And perhaps they

1110
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: were just like, all right, what Kenderck just did is

1111
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: bigger than what we foresee Drake doing in the near future.

1112
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: So we're gonna flood this and capitalize on this moment

1113
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 4: because it's that this is the moment that we're gonna

1114
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: the most out.

1115
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 9: Of at Drake, at Drake's at Drake's expense of being

1116
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 9: called the a minor. So they don't care nothing about

1117
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 9: his character.

1118
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: See, we all know that the last thing he did

1119
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: get four hundred million. You don't get all that money

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: at once. And there's some stipulations in there too. Lastly,

1121
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: they don't want to give him the rest of that money,

1122
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: and they do kind of want to f him off.

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 4: And sometimes you know this, it might be like Jerry

1124
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: Krause and the nineteen ninety eight bulls.

1125
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 5: Look you've peaked.

1126
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, I cannot think of one single reason that the

1127
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: business would empower Kendrick over Drake.

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 8: Me neither.

1129
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: I can't I gat that of a sole reason. Five

1130
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: year outlook, the business would They're the same age, not

1131
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: one sole reason.

1132
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: Can I think of why the business would empower Ken Like?

1133
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: Drake has had so many records, smash hit records. I

1134
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: think he's like thirteen in fourteen in like, he has

1135
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: more number one records on the Hot one hundred than

1136
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.

1137
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 4: Kendrick forced their hands. Kendrick kicked him out of the community.

1138
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: It forced their hands.

1139
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even true, because I gotta.

1140
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: Ask truth this question. At any point, man, did Drake

1141
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: reach out to you for you to rescue him, man,

1142
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: for you to donate? Yo?

1143
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 7: Still man, that's hilarious, you know what I'm saying. That's hysterical,

1144
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 7: but real talk.

1145
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 6: It is kind of like, why would they like it

1146
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 6: would have to be some behind the scenes stuff that

1147
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 6: we not pretty too. That could be the only reason

1148
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 6: why they would choose to push Kendrick and push Drake out,

1149
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Because even a mid tier

1150
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 6: Drake is bringing him money, you know what I'm saying.

1151
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: So and I'm gonna tell you though, people gotta twist

1152
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: that Drake was a bigger artist than on Kendrick.

1153
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean but but minus hold on,

1154
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: I got you Grid, but minus the bigger artist. I

1155
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: cannot think of one sole reason the label chooses.

1156
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: Kendrick over Drake. It doesn't make sense like he had

1157
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: to actually win the I mean, listen, he had better records.

1158
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: I think during the battle, I think Drake didn't lean

1159
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: to his strategy of making really good records that can

1160
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: be played all over the country. I think he really

1161
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: went into it with a battle mind. I'm gonna battle

1162
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: this guy, like you know, he he believed all of

1163
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: the height of battle rap and and you know when

1164
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: he went away from what work of him in the

1165
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Meek Meal battle right, which was back to back, and

1166
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: then he gets to the even when he gets in

1167
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: a push of tea battle, he dropped a rap song

1168
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: like where he's just rapping, and then he gets in

1169
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: the Kendrick battle and the push up record is dope, right,

1170
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: this is good catching, but then every other record is

1171
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: not a really great record, right, So.

1172
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: I think he lost the battle.

1173
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: I think he lost the battle on his own right,

1174
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: and but I cannot find one reason why the business

1175
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: would ever favored Kendrick over Drake.

1176
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: I can't find one reason in my mind.

1177
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't think I think best kind of reaching right there.

1178
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of reaching, bro, And I'm gonna

1179
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: tell you what it is. Man. Drake has been lifting

1180
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: out his fantasies over the last ten to fifteen years. Right,

1181
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: He's been messing with girls that he probably would have

1182
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: never had the chance to knock down if he wouldn't.

1183
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 3: Drake gotta remember that dude used to look corny gee

1184
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: before he got the money, and that I didn't.

1185
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: Use to It looks hard yesterday, yeah, right now, Like

1186
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: he just looks like he's impersonating Nust, Me and Corny.

1187
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He gets a real corner, dude,

1188
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: when you really think about it. Right, So he's been

1189
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: living fantasies. He's been going he's been really fascinated with

1190
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: Battle Rep. He's been going to League, been sponsoring League,

1191
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: he's sponsoring the whole U r L. But then you

1192
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: know they little streaming thing they had going on, and

1193
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: he really thought, in his mind, this is going to

1194
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: be my chance to immortalize myself in a battle.

1195
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: Did an incredible job with the meek meal battle hold.

1196
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: Let me get through these super chatter real quick. Shout

1197
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: out to Captain d Hard, Thanks for the five dollars.

1198
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 3: Brother.

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: It's been reported he is in contract negotiations before the

1200
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: battles started. Don't know if that's true, but it's on

1201
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: Twitter now. He had did that a couple of years ago.

1202
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he did for an extension, but I know he

1203
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: did that a year or two. Go shout out to

1204
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Calor Production, thanks for the two dollars. My brother is spiritual.

1205
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: I really believe God writers. I think that's I agree

1206
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: with you in the innate sense of the battle, but

1207
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: that is not what Universal.

1208
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: Music Group is pushing.

1209
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: Righteous people not like forgive me because I don't want

1210
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: to say that they don't have any talent that's righteous.

1211
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't think that's a wanging factor for

1212
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: them to market and act is if they're a righteous person.

1213
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: I just think that's the furthest thing from their mind.

1214
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't want to make it people.

1215
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to go.

1216
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: Too hard on them, you know, because I don't know

1217
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: business practices. I ain't been in there. But the last

1218
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: thing that I get from them is righteous.

1219
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: That's I don't get that. As far as artistry.

1220
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie Omar, I do. Thanks for

1221
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: the five dollars. This is some great dialogues. Salu Fellas.

1222
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed it. Man, we're tackling it right now.

1223
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: It's late because like this is just breaking events.

1224
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: It just matters.

1225
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 6: Yo, yo glasses. Let's go back to the battle real quick.

1226
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 6: I feel like it. I feel like what Still is

1227
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 6: talking about going into all these battle rap events and

1228
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 6: all that one the first thing you people in that

1229
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 6: world is people use angles, and you know what I mean.

1230
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 7: His angle was to live bro Kendrick. He just wanted

1231
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 7: to little.

1232
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 8: Brilliant, he feel me.

1233
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 7: And Hendrick was coming.

1234
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 6: With concept records like Meet the Grahams, and he was

1235
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 6: taking it all the way around the world with his

1236
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 6: pen as far as coming you know, on some battleship

1237
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 6: and I feel like if if he was really paying

1238
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 6: attention in them battle events, then we would have different

1239
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 6: records right now. And on the tip of the you know,

1240
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 6: the spirituality to I don't think he talking about universal

1241
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 6: music spirituality and they practices.

1242
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 7: I think he's talking about.

1243
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 6: Just period like it's time for you know, something else

1244
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 6: to come into play because of all of the the

1245
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 6: the demons in the music playground right now.

1246
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Totally totally agree that there's a real demand for the

1247
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: Universe first is demanding for it. But trust me, Universal

1248
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: Music Group is not at the They are not the

1249
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: hands for these class group.

1250
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 7: Universe Music Group.

1251
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 4: I swear classes you got a painting or some sort

1252
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 4: of an artistic piece as the result of this battle, correct,

1253
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: I do have what does that depict?

1254
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: I forget Drake doing push ups while Kendrick as the

1255
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: master is watching him.

1256
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 8: Indeed, indeed, okay, drop down, give me fifty.

1257
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: There you go. Yes, I agree with Crooked.

1258
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: The Universe Music Group is definitely demanding more of a

1259
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: righteous fold. And and I mean something I've talked to

1260
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: Cam over the years about, you know, when it comes

1261
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: to health and and and being street as I am

1262
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: and the language that I use, like you could always

1263
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: be a street guy and be very much a righteous person.

1264
01:08:59,560 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: They don't.

1265
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 2: They're not mutually exclusive. They can go together.

1266
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to stand up and

1267
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: be who you are, even in the face of friends.

1268
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 2: Right, you still gotta be stern.

1269
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's the business of Universal

1270
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: Music Group.

1271
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: I think Universal Music Group do.

1272
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: I think behind the scenes they have some backdoor deals

1273
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: that can encourage people to do the wrong thing. Sure,

1274
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: but I also think, you know, people like to share

1275
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: in silly shit.

1276
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, you like, I don't do drugs, but people

1277
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: like drugs. I don't know why.

1278
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: I will probably be the last person to tell you

1279
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: why somebody like drugs or alcohol.

1280
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: I could never understand it.

1281
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 9: Do you think why do you think Drake wanted to

1282
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 9: get involved in the battle rap scene? Do you think

1283
01:09:55,240 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 9: that he wants an army or a brotherhood hood? He

1284
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 9: wants to for his manhood nature to be respected?

1285
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

1286
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 9: Because you can, you can have all the females liking

1287
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 9: you all over the world. But I really think with him.

1288
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, Champ. Everybody's like going to

1289
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 3: the zoo, right, because you know everybody, what's the favorite thing?

1290
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 3: People like, what's the fake what's the biggest attraction of

1291
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: the zoo? The gorillas and the gorilla lines right because

1292
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 3: they behind the cage. Right, how many people you think

1293
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: will go to zoo? If the motherfuckers is running free.

1294
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 3: When you go to park a lot, you know, gorillas

1295
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 3: just swing and treat the treatmhen you come in and

1296
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 3: just who just bombing on people lines, you know, biting

1297
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: people's head off, and shit, wouldn't nobody want to see

1298
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 3: that live? I think Drake has been going to the

1299
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: zoo man now, he think he could walk among the beasts.

1300
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: Shout out to ec DC tech academics talking about glasses.

1301
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,440
Speaker 1: Long of twenty thousand viewers, Story of my Life, brother, Story.

1302
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 8: Of my Life always did something.

1303
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: It's always somebody that's entirely too famous upset at me.

1304
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: So I'm used to it.

1305
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 9: I mean it's not bad, yeah, But like I said,

1306
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 9: the beautiful thing though, is people that, like I said,

1307
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 9: the poverty, you know, produces an army, a brotherhood. So

1308
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 9: the ain't ain't no amount of money, ain't on amount

1309
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 9: of females and popularity or whatever that can equal a

1310
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 9: real army. You know what I'm saying. That's that's riding

1311
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 9: and sliding for love and respect. So I think that's

1312
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 9: what he deficient of. You know what I'm saying. All

1313
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 9: of us on this panel, you know what I'm saying,

1314
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 9: including Pete got more respect. I think you know what

1315
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 9: I'm saying than dude do That's fit where it counts.

1316
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 4: And I think it's also Yeah, because of that deficiency,

1317
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: he's not going to go get it in the streets.

1318
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: This is the closest place.

1319
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 8: He can go to get it, man, that's true.

1320
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to a J. I think it's pronounced or

1321
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: a job, but I think it's AJ. The only thanks

1322
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: for the five dollars, Brodie. The only reason I can

1323
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: foresee U m G. Pushing Dot over rate at any

1324
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: moment is if they know some Nafari ship on his

1325
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 1: jacket that might hit the streets.

1326
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: That's a great point that possibly I think Dave for

1327
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: sure will unconnect from your ass. Have you got to.

1328
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 5: And what was the theme of the song?

1329
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 8: Right?

1330
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: No?

1331
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 8: Right?

1332
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: But but I'll be honest. When I asked Dot, he

1333
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie? Did ask Dot? He said, glasses, you

1334
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: ain't know me to be no liar.

1335
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 8: What I'm saying all this fear, all this fear, right, and.

1336
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: I think there's you know, hops are kind of genre

1337
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: where when it goes, it goes quick for a lot

1338
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 4: of artists. You know, you can have a run for

1339
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: a long long time, and when it when you're no

1340
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: longer to sound anymore, it's it. You have to wait

1341
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 4: until you're like now now you're like old school hop

1342
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: because people remember you.

1343
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: Another five dollars, my boy.

1344
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: It's a new contract in the lawsuit that says he

1345
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: owns his master's and copyright.

1346
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, that could be another thing too.

1347
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: That could be another thing too, cap Like, if you

1348
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: own your masters and your copyrights, they might invest in

1349
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: somebody else because it's more money to be made.

1350
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: I know that's true too, you know what I mean?

1351
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: That can be a good point.

1352
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 3: Let me ask you some real he started to cut

1353
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: you off. How many artists do y'all know, man, that

1354
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: really were big deals that their finances don't reflect it

1355
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: right now? You know guys like from the nineties that

1356
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: have really huge records and really big careers. That was

1357
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: the Kindreds back in the day. How many of those

1358
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 3: guys do you see that their finances may not be

1359
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: all the way right? And not trying to you know,

1360
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: just them dudes or nothing, but just trying to make

1361
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: a point.

1362
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 9: Most of them meet me included, you know what I'm saying.

1363
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 9: So you know, it's a business it's a business. It's

1364
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 9: also a boys club. You know, people get to work

1365
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 9: that stay in the circle. It's a certain it's a

1366
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 9: such thing as gatekeepers or whatever, you know, a little

1367
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 9: boy's club that they're gonna they gonna keep you working

1368
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 9: if you if you get down like they get down.

1369
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 9: So I never got down like them, period. So you know,

1370
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 9: I was never invited to the Reindeer games.

1371
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 3: I say all that to say this, man, you can

1372
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 3: never you can never get in the position dude the

1373
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: way you think you too, big man, because I don't

1374
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: seen some big dudes fault.

1375
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: Man, he definitely, he definitely, no matter how it go,

1376
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: this was a mistake. There's no way he could come

1377
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: out on the other end and this not be a

1378
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: mistake because now you're making enemies.

1379
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 2: With really powerful people.

1380
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: Who are happened to be a lot further vested in

1381
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: the business you want to succeed in than you do.

1382
01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: Not to mention again, it's like maybe you know, I

1383
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't.

1384
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1385
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think of what makes sense. Maybe

1386
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna quit. Maybe he's like, you know what, I'm

1387
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: done with this. I'm gonna blow the lid off of it,

1388
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna ride off into the sunset. Maybe

1389
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: I think he just reached I said, yeah.

1390
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: The sunset gonna be crazy.

1391
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 3: You know in.

1392
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 4: Canada you go far off north and the sun doesn't

1393
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 4: set for months during the summer.

1394
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 8: You're stuck in the daytime.

1395
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite know how this works out.

1396
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: Again, the culture kind of they're done with him, right,

1397
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: which he does have a fan base. To Kriuk's point

1398
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: earlier that you know he got from obviously years and

1399
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: years of great music and success, right that that he's

1400
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: going to have an audience. But Universal is tied to

1401
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: the people that own the arenas. Universal is tied to

1402
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 1: the people that actually streamed the music.

1403
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: Universal, like you.

1404
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying, You start to put yourself into

1405
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: a disadvantage because these people are connected to everybody, you

1406
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and they will stop.

1407
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: So I don't quite know what the thought is.

1408
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,440
Speaker 1: I just think it's a bad thought.

1409
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: Quick. What was his last three records? Because then his

1410
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 3: last three records do like unbelievably bad. His last three singles.

1411
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: He tried to drop, I mean, bad for Drake is

1412
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 1: probably not in the top twenties.

1413
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't think these records even hit the top

1414
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 3: one hundred.

1415
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: From what I mean, well, I think he put out

1416
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: a lot.

1417
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: Mind. Yeah, he's obviously been struggling. He's obviously been struggling.

1418
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: But I also don't think he went in there and

1419
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,919
Speaker 1: started to try to make really great records that address

1420
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: where he's at and gave people what they.

1421
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: Wanted to hear.

1422
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 5: I don't think it will matter.

1423
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still like how j Cole was able

1424
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 1: to do with that song where he tried to rewrite

1425
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: history and act like, oh y'all to do.

1426
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: Didn't get hit like this he was.

1427
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 5: I don't think like this.

1428
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: You know this is John came out with latinum album

1429
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: and the gold album in top forty songs. Joe Rule

1430
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: still is streets, so he understands what not to do.

1431
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 5: Rul's persona nongrada for a decade.

1432
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 8: Mm hmm yeah, but this is worse.

1433
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: I know.

1434
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 5: That's why the company pivoted.

1435
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: Like this could be and remember and remember, like to John,

1436
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: them's situation, Remember they called a fair case. And that's

1437
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: when the label walked away from Shug, walked away from

1438
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: Jay and walked away from uh Earth at that same time,

1439
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: they all had caught fit. People didn't realize that they

1440
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: all called fair cases at the same time.

1441
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give a real trip off that

1442
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give Universe who a fair case?

1443
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, his his attorneys to mention Rico in the

1444
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: paperwork like that.

1445
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 8: Is it's not it's not good. It's not gonna end good.

1446
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: They could be going through some kind of crisis right now, man,

1447
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 3: where he's like he's gonna seem too much and he's about

1448
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: to tell it all. You know, you got that one

1449
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: homie that you take on the mission. You see the

1450
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't be going the next day. He might be

1451
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: about to drop the bomb.

1452
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: Bro shout out to George Williams. He said, that's why

1453
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: we never get ahead. He's not scared to be the

1454
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: fall guy for the future guys. This has nothing to

1455
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: do with fall god.

1456
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: For future guys.

1457
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: All he's going to do is stop record companies from

1458
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: marketing record He's not even gonna stop anything. There's nothing

1459
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: for anybody else that's going to And he's not himself

1460
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: being a fall guy.

1461
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: He's point. He got another guy.

1462
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: He's like that guy. He's not saying, hey, you know what,

1463
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: this is what the record label. If he wanted to

1464
01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: be the fall guy and didn't want yeah, he could

1465
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: do it for himself. He could be like, this is

1466
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: how they marketed me. This is how they spent the money.

1467
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: I have the paperwork right here, here's the proof. Look

1468
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: at this, this, this, this, this. But he's doing what

1469
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: Gunna did. He's like, no, look what they did for him.

1470
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: Look at that guy over there. They did this for him,

1471
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: you know ex Rico so Forth and so on. You

1472
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: feel me, they did that for him. Now, if he

1473
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: wanted to be the fall guy, he would say, this

1474
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: is what they did for me. Hey, you know what.

1475
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: They falsely marketed my stuff. They made me bigger than

1476
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: I was. My numbers caught up and I was an

1477
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Arenas so Forth and so on. That's if he was

1478
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: trying to be a fall guy or a martyr or

1479
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: or or Jesus type of person in that regard, he

1480
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: would take the responsibility. He would not be pointing at

1481
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: who he could consider his Judas as Jesus didn't be

1482
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: like it was Judas. It was like whatever feemy Draken,

1483
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: like Drake Peno Brown in the court room.

1484
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 9: On New Jack City, damn and Drake Drake low key

1485
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 9: like Howard Hughes. You've seen a Howard huge story in

1486
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 9: The Eccentric went crazy and the big ass man just

1487
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 9: start peeing in bottles and lining them up, grew on

1488
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 9: his fingernails all along.

1489
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 8: Drake, might you might need to get that little fifty

1490
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 8: one to fifty watch.

1491
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: My boy was like me, no, he was like it

1492
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: was Kendrick. You a witness everybody.

1493
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: Drake showed up to the police department with the rape cap.

1494
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: G I gotta go on, pick a baby girl. I

1495
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 3: love y'all.

1496
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: Man in a minute, my boy, Yeah, he not.

1497
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 6: He not a fall guy. He's a I want to

1498
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 6: speak to the manager. That's what he's doing right now,

1499
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And you know, if he

1500
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about how corrupt the industry is, he

1501
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 6: wouldn't have waited to turn the light on on his

1502
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 6: supposed enemy.

1503
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1504
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 6: This is this is this has nothing to do with

1505
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,440
Speaker 6: anything righteous for the future of artistry.

1506
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 7: You feel me?

1507
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 3: Now?

1508
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 7: Will it end up being something like that, We don't.

1509
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 6: I doubt it, But okay, that would just be a

1510
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 6: byproduct of him trying to get vengeance and stay on

1511
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 6: his mission.

1512
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

1513
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 6: It's not in his intentions to to save to save

1514
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 6: the music.

1515
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 7: You feel me if you're not gonna do that.

1516
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: So he's the first lay Yeah u MG, Like you said, man,

1517
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 6: you know they they when they start activating. Boy, let

1518
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 6: me tell you if people people don't think they had

1519
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 6: nothing to do with with with that Rico from the

1520
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 6: Color of Colorful Hair.

1521
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 7: Guy, you know what, they stay out their minds.

1522
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 6: So my whole thing is, like you said, they got

1523
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 6: a lot of power and this ain't gonna unfold how

1524
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 6: him and his team thought.

1525
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't know, Bro, like he crashing out,

1526
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 7: You feel me like he crashing out right now? That's

1527
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 7: all that's all he doing.

1528
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: He was smartier right now there he is, come for Kenny,

1529
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: the educated brother from Compton. That's who the real leader

1530
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: of this, this this ambition Undertaker is doing.

1531
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 4: If Dre was smart, he should have paid another artist

1532
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 4: to sue and paid for the legal fish.

1533
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 2: Oh Man shout out to Flocko.

1534
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: He said, come on, big bro, Drake is doing this

1535
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: for the people like us who preach against corrupt infrastructure.

1536
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: We should be celebrating this. This is bigger than Kendrick

1537
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: and Drake. I would buy that what they did for

1538
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: him and his business. He come out and break the

1539
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: industry in half. All you got to do is like,

1540
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: this is what they did for me. They made this work.

1541
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 1: I know they spent this money. Here's the proof. He

1542
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: could talk about everything, but when he's pointing at Kendrick,

1543
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: That's why it's not about preaching against the corrupt infrastructure,

1544
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,520
Speaker 1: bro the benefactor.

1545
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 6: He is suing them for a song called not Like

1546
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 6: Us by Kendrick Lamar. That's what the fuck this is about, Bro,

1547
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 6: like not try to you know what I mean. I'm

1548
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 6: the most positive thinking brother you can fucking meet, you

1549
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 6: know what I mean. But he's not going to go

1550
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 6: into the land of fairy tale. The motherfucker said, Yo,

1551
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 6: not like Us. It's the craziest fucking the Tommy nuclear

1552
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 6: bomb that ever dropped on the rapper's head. And like

1553
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 6: that ship everywhere I go, they planned it in the

1554
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 6: World series.

1555
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 7: He's trying to it has nothing to do with that

1556
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 7: other ship.

1557
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 6: Now, like I said, if it becomes a if that

1558
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 6: other ship becomes a byproduct, please believe it is not

1559
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 6: his intention because simply put like you said, Gee, he's

1560
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 6: pointing his finger. Bro, He's pointing his finger and he's saying, Yo,

1561
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 6: this is what they did for him, and I'm going

1562
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 6: to expose it.

1563
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 7: If not like us as a dud. We never had

1564
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 7: this conversation.

1565
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: And poet Clocko.

1566
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: When you told me the album dish, I didn't believe it.

1567
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.

1568
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 3: You were right.

1569
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how you predicted it, Flocko. Hip hop

1570
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: is street urban culture. The first time we talk on

1571
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: your platform on No Jumper, I explained it to you.

1572
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: It's artistically expressed street urban culture. It's the way you act, walk, talk.

1573
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: Everything about it is that it's not It doesn't lead

1574
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: with music first. The confusion is that it leads with

1575
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: music first. No, it leads with culture first. If it

1576
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,919
Speaker 1: led with music, Chief Keith win it sold three records.

1577
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Chief Keith, but he ain't quite Herbie Hancock,

1578
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: he's not quite Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson. You know

1579
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: it's music isn't quite you know, Ray Charles, you know

1580
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: he's not on a piano playing.

1581
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: You feel me. That type of couldn't work if it

1582
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: was music first.

1583
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: If that was the case, then Leon Haywood's song would

1584
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: be multi platinum and Doctor Dre's song would have only

1585
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: sold you know, g would have sold five thousand if

1586
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: it was about music, because the music in these other

1587
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: genres is superior the music. Now when you add in

1588
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: the fact that hip hop is about culture, it's about

1589
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: discovery and people that don't have a voice, and a

1590
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: movement of people that refuse to be ignored and determine

1591
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: to let you know they exist and talk about their

1592
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: experience in this very small minute population in America. All

1593
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: it's very few ghettos that create the stuff that we're

1594
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: talking about.

1595
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's what hip hop is about,

1596
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: and that's what we come for.

1597
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: See, I've never been confused and thought to myself, we

1598
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: come from music again, Like right now, people ask me

1599
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 1: all the time, you gonna listen to more new artists.

1600
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'm actually listening for music now now

1601
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: I'm not listening for culture. I'm like, well, what actually

1602
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: sounds good. I'm gonna go play Hall of Noakes. I'm

1603
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: going to go play Prince. I'm going to go discover

1604
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: the third Marvin Gaye album because I'm going to listen

1605
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: to music, but when I listen to hip hop, I

1606
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: listen for culture, I listen for lingo, I listen for style,

1607
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: fashion representation, and then music. So again, it's like when

1608
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: you was asking me how that battle will play out.

1609
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: It's a guy with culture that understands culture versus a

1610
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: guy with no street urban culture zero. He's been kind

1611
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: of like impersonating it. It's like asking me, you know what,

1612
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: a in a soul ful competition, who would win? Like

1613
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: Eminem's Prime Eminem or Kentucky Fried Chicken. There's nobody in

1614
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: the world that's going to taste both soul fools. You

1615
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: asking me who in King Tacos or Taco Bill, anybody

1616
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 1: would taste buds.

1617
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: It's going to work.

1618
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 9: Where it's a certain type of taste buds Because to me,

1619
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 9: it's like also like uh, Godzilla and King Kong, right,

1620
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 9: the machine made them both global monsters, but when it

1621
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 9: comes to them battling each other, one of them got

1622
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 9: way more weapons than the other one, you know what

1623
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 9: I'm saying on that On that scene.

1624
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 4: It to me like it was like when I first

1625
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 4: started seeing the comments and some of the posts about

1626
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 4: this on social media, the wagons circled so fast. They

1627
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 4: circled so fast, and like this is is is South stupid.

1628
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 4: It's kind of funny. You three guys haven't been on

1629
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: that side of the wagons like I feel. How the

1630
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 4: wagons circle on to be You know, it happens fast

1631
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 4: and you see it boom and it doesn't unhappen, and

1632
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: everybody in the room knew it. And it was cool

1633
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: for Drake until Drake just did that little thing to

1634
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 4: give him the excuse. And he did it, and he

1635
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 4: capitalized on it, and they just went and he was

1636
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: over there.

1637
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: It happened so fast.

1638
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 7: I got a question, where does Drake go from here?

1639
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: He justss he has to wait until he's nostalgic.

1640
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 8: I think I think he would never do this.

1641
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 10: But if he, if he apologized, you know what I'm saying,

1642
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 10: if he if he apologized to the culture and embraced

1643
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 10: you know, reality instead of playing like he was God

1644
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 10: and trying.

1645
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 8: To son everybody.

1646
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 9: And you know, because you on this, I'm rich and

1647
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 9: I'm balling and I'm playing these money games, and you

1648
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, you have to break it all

1649
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 9: the way down.

1650
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 8: And get with some real people. Do it.

1651
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 9: Do a whole lot of charity. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1652
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 9: you gotta do a whole lot of Santa Claus.

1653
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: You have to actually come clean and be for real.

1654
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: You have to be genuine. Shout out to Big China.

1655
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Blogger said he bullies people legally and he really wants

1656
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: to sue that. I believe that too. Shout out the tree,

1657
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: he said, Invite him to the podcast, man, d wouldn't

1658
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: come to this. Drake wouldn't come to that podcast.

1659
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1660
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because we wouldn't even be talking about this stuff,

1661
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 1: but he would be so mad and upset that he

1662
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't really, you know, be okay with the conversation.

1663
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Hold on, this is this is head called him? Let

1664
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: me see what he talking about? Like, what up? I

1665
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: can't call it.

1666
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: I got you on the live stream with me, Crooked

1667
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Cam and Pete.

1668
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry nobout.

1669
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that when you call me, is required that

1670
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: you say cuz that's how everybody greets me, all the

1671
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 1: white lawyers managers to say what's up?

1672
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 2: Because when he called me, like what's up? Because come on,

1673
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 2: I don't.

1674
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 11: To understand the process behind the goings on.

1675
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: What the going is on is we can't figure it out.

1676
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: We've been trying to discover and what's going on for

1677
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: the last hour and thirty five minutes, and none of

1678
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: us is really close. Because the best thing I heard

1679
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: came from a comment where somebody said he owns his

1680
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: master's and copyright in his new contract. So maybe that's

1681
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: why they could favor Kendrick over him, But I still

1682
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: don't understand why that would bother him to the point

1683
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 1: to where he would sabotage his business future with UMG

1684
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: and affiliates.

1685
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I get to.

1686
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I still don't think so, because I would imagine the

1687
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: money with Drake and where they have positioned him to

1688
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: is incredible.

1689
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: So it doesn't makes sense.

1690
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: So the most the most realistic, you know, solution is

1691
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: he's having in an emotional outbreak and he has the

1692
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of money that people are not saying, hey, this

1693
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: is not a wise idea.

1694
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 11: I don't think there's any one probably around that's going

1695
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 11: to culturally navigate.

1696
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Him, and that's again the same problem Cam said. Crooet

1697
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: asked a question, he said, what would it take to

1698
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: get Drake back into a decent position, and Cam said

1699
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: he'll never do this, but to apologize to the culture

1700
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: into everything else about what he's been doing and decide

1701
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,480
Speaker 1: to himself he's going to become more of a humanitarian

1702
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,839
Speaker 1: and look out for the culture that he's benefited off.

1703
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: Of and work from there.

1704
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: But again, it would take a level of self awareness,

1705
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: like conscious to where you can understand what's happening. And

1706
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: I definitely do not believe he has his self aware

1707
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: to understand and you know, possible consequences for misusing the

1708
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 1: culture this way to the benefit of just making money

1709
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: and feeling like the equivalent is empowering a couple of

1710
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: other rappers, which really still gives you the same credibility,

1711
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't think Drake

1712
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: is one of these people who don't. I think he

1713
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: definated the schools and he tries his best, but this

1714
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: is something really deep, like this is a really you know,

1715
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: we're hard on each other.

1716
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: He had community wise over this.

1717
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: We are hard over people who've really been through this,

1718
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: let alone people who didn't go through this. So I

1719
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: mean it requires a shout out to either seventy eight.

1720
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: The answer is it requires humility and you can forget

1721
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: about that.

1722
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's numerous there's a couple of individuals who have

1723
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,440
Speaker 11: experenced a lot of humility over the last few years.

1724
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: I progress with the system.

1725
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, all right, I'm here you once we finished, so.

1726
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I crooked. I think we then

1727
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time. Cam.

1728
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: I think we just spent a lot of time trying

1729
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: to figure out I don't have the answer.

1730
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 7: So the answer comes back to a Kendrick song.

1731
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 8: Be humble, mm hmm. Is that gonna happen?

1732
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: And that'll do it? Much love to y'all, Man, see

1733
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: y'all Wednesday at noon. Man he thanks Crooking, Thanks big Bro,

1734
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: Cam Pete. We back here Wednesday. Make sure y'all go

1735
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,519
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1736
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,639
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1737
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Who get your podcast?

1738
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: The No Sillings Podcast produced by Charlemagne to God, Black

1739
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1740
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1741
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1742
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Speaker 1: episode was recorded right here on the West Coast of

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Speaker 1: the USA and produced by The Black Effect Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: and iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.