WEBVTT - He Wrote A Book About Killing Tupac; Today He Goes On Trial For Murder 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the folks, it is Monday, August tenth, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost hard to believe thirty years after his death, someone

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time is being tried in the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of two Pac Shakur And with that, welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Baby and TJ. It's my sophomore year of

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<v Speaker 1>college when he was killed. Never forget that and when

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<v Speaker 1>that all went down. I remember where I was on

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<v Speaker 1>campus when I got the news. Actually, you've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just riding in the car past Reynolds Razorback Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think I was going to say that

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<v Speaker 1>until this moment, but it was such a moment. He

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<v Speaker 1>was such a star rogues. Nobody has been tried in

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<v Speaker 1>his murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was thirty years ago, nineteen ninety six. You remember

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<v Speaker 2>where you were when you heard the news. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember how you felt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was shocked. At the time. He was

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge star and such an influence and everything

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing day in day out with music. He

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<v Speaker 1>was everything him and Biggie with everything rap wise. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think shock at the time. He was twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>I was We were talking about it this morning, like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized he was so young.

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<v Speaker 3>He what were you twenty twenty one? So I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen years old, you were nineteen, Like that's in your age.

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<v Speaker 2>He's someone who just was a little bit older than

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<v Speaker 2>you enough that you could be looking up to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And was it ever a source of frustration over these

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<v Speaker 2>years that no one was ever held accountable? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember what jumps to mine now is there's

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<v Speaker 1>a joke that Chris Rock tells about how police don't

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<v Speaker 1>really care when it's a rap killing or it's black

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<v Speaker 1>on black. He said, when a black eye kills another

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<v Speaker 1>black it's a black victim, all police have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is just put a demo tape in his pocket and

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<v Speaker 1>just say, oh, it's a rap killing, let's get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Really, they joke about it to us a way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we've become Look it's been thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to a point. How he got shot ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can get more witnesses to

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<v Speaker 1>a shooting, then the Vegas Strip after a Mike Tyson

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<v Speaker 1>fightd in Tyson's heyday, I don't know how you get more.

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<v Speaker 1>So all these things come together to you, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the what the hell, and you get resigned to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact we're never gonna know for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I was just gonna ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>My next question was, did you ever think that this

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<v Speaker 2>day would come?

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<v Speaker 3>And the only reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>This day has come not because of detective work, not

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<v Speaker 2>because of a police officer, that one detective who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let this go and reopened a cold case and

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<v Speaker 2>followed the evidence. No, it had nothing to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're here today because the dude wrote that he did it.

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<v Speaker 2>He went on podcasts talking about how.

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<v Speaker 3>He was involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally the evidence and the reason why we're here today

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<v Speaker 2>is because Dwayne Keith Davis said it was so his words,

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<v Speaker 2>his own words are literally.

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<v Speaker 3>The evidence in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's telling and Robes it is the strongest evidence they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to have in this case. But it is yes, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>wild Robes to think that thirty years later, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker, folks. He's not the trigger man. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>accused of being the trigger man. There's no suggestion of

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<v Speaker 1>him being the trigger man. Instead, this is the guy who,

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<v Speaker 1>as he tells the story and its prosecutors say, now

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<v Speaker 1>he is the one who provided the gun and orchestrated

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, that.

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<v Speaker 3>The mastermind who provided the weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, I believe the charge specifically is murder with a

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<v Speaker 2>deadly weapon with the intent to promote, further or assist

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal gang. So he is being charged with murder

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<v Speaker 2>in the first degree, and that we've seen this happen

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<v Speaker 2>in other cases. Certainly, you don't have to be the

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<v Speaker 2>person who pulls the trigger, and in fact, oftentimes the

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<v Speaker 2>person who orchestrates it masterminds it. Think about a murder

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<v Speaker 2>for higher plot, the folks who are in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>the plan tend to get the biggest punishment rather than

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<v Speaker 2>even the gunman himself. But everyone else who was in

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<v Speaker 2>that car who could have pulled the trigger isn't even

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<v Speaker 2>here to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but the guy we are talking about is Dwayne

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Davis. He's sixty three years old now, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is a former gang affiliated guy who was running in

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<v Speaker 1>some circles I guess back in the day we'll get into.

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<v Speaker 1>But his trial is starting today jury selection. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen different ranges rogues how long this is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to go this week. Summer's saying a few days, and

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<v Speaker 1>some say all week.

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<v Speaker 2>Not with the jury selections. I mean, look, this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be I don't know. Maybe you get folks

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<v Speaker 2>young enough, they're not they don't have a memory of

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<v Speaker 2>when it happened, how it happened. I'm curious what the

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<v Speaker 2>strategy will be between the prosecutors and the defense team based.

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<v Speaker 3>On what type of jurory you would want seated.

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<v Speaker 2>People who were around at the time, people who weren't

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<v Speaker 2>around at the time have no clue. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>I know that the trial itself is expected to last

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<v Speaker 2>a full month, but jury selection, who knows, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days. It depends on just what their school

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<v Speaker 2>of jurors would be like. In Vegas, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a transient community. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't feel like, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you might have some lifers in there, people who've lived

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<v Speaker 2>and grew up in Vegas, but it just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a place people.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrive at they don't actually come from.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious, you know, I don't know, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what you wouldn't even need a change of

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<v Speaker 2>venue because I feel like people are always coming and

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<v Speaker 2>going from there.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is going to be another expected to be

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile Ropes. They have lottery for the seats

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<v Speaker 1>in there again, so a lot of people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be trying to get in there and see. What

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<v Speaker 1>is a trial that you know, Like you were just saying, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought we'd see, and a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 1>never did. Someone is being tried for the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac's records. This guy, though, wrote a book, a memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>Robe that came out in twenty nineteen that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reopened this case. We don't want to take anything away

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<v Speaker 1>from police. Obviously they had to do plenty of detective work,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was the impetus for them taking another look. Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right the title the book, Compton Street Legend twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen Memoir. Do you think when he was writing this

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<v Speaker 2>that he had any thought that this could implicate himself?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, when OJ Simpson wrote if I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>he could at least still stand on the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote if I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no if.

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<v Speaker 2>In this he goes in detail and describes what he

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<v Speaker 2>says happened that night. And how would he not think

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<v Speaker 2>by writing this he wouldn't be held accountable for what

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<v Speaker 2>he is detailing.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened that night. How did he think that this

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to implicate him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he didn't get good advice. Maybe he thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was just a tall tale nobody was really going to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. Maybe he didn't think they were paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he still thought there's no evidence. So I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know. But Ropes, if you got away

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<v Speaker 1>with a crime for damn near thirty years, the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing you do is to say, hey, look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I got away with it for thirty years. Go sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy, and it's there was some debate about

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not that would be allowed in and his

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<v Speaker 1>some of his words and every Yep, it's all in there.

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<v Speaker 2>All admissible, including some of the podcasts he did. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this was the book, yes, But then he was

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<v Speaker 2>promoting the book, so he's talking about what he wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only do you have his written word, you

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<v Speaker 2>actually have his verbal word as well. And he claims that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he provided the gun, that he threw it in the

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<v Speaker 2>back seat. That's fairly damning given the charges he's facing.

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<v Speaker 1>And reminder, you go back or this was September seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, Tupac. A lot of people, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very famous picture is the last photo of Tupac that

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<v Speaker 1>was taken. But you see him sitting in the passenger

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<v Speaker 1>seat of a black BMW. You see big Sug Night

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<v Speaker 1>over in the driver's seat looking straight ahead, and Tupac

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<v Speaker 1>is actually looking at the camera. It's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>It really even look.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm not I was never a big

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<v Speaker 2>rap listener, wasn't really into any of this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that photo.

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<v Speaker 3>That photo is iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's in that the moments that followed that, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped in an intersection, a white Cadillac pulled up,

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<v Speaker 1>gunfire erupts. Tupac is shot four times, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>some six days later that he actually died at the hospital. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the motive in all that role their surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>video out there. Tupac was involved in a scuffle. The

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<v Speaker 1>group he was with entourage had ganged up on beat

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<v Speaker 1>up a guy who was with a rival gang. We

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<v Speaker 1>see that, and that apparently set them off. Retaliation must

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<v Speaker 1>happen and a plan was put in place, and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy behind that plan is the guy going on trial today.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and look that is the motive. And we mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>earlier at least I touched on this. The folks who

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<v Speaker 2>were in that Cadillac where the fires came, the firing

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<v Speaker 2>or the weapon I guess was fired from. Everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>was in that car is dead except for Davis, the defendant.

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<v Speaker 2>So Orlando Anderson, that was the nephew. What was his uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a nickname. I actually loved all of their nicknames.

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<v Speaker 2>I did appreciate that. But he was the one who

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<v Speaker 2>they were basically defending his honor, correct, and it is believed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people speculated or have speculated that he

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<v Speaker 2>is the one who may have actually pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>But he died a few years years later in another

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<v Speaker 2>shootout in Compton, correct, So he's not there to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. His name was Baby Lane Orlando Baby Lane Anderson.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his nephew. The other folks in the car

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Smith. His name was DeAndre Freaky Smith. He died

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<v Speaker 2>of natural causes I believe complications due to diabetes. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Terry bubble Up Brown with in the car as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He died as well in a shootout. So no one

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<v Speaker 2>in that car where the shots came from is alive

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<v Speaker 2>today except for the guy on trial.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of the only person left that you could

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<v Speaker 1>could actually be tried decided to write a book like.

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<v Speaker 3>In the he has no one to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>If he was afraid of ever being called out as

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<v Speaker 2>the mastermind, if he was afraid of ever facing the

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<v Speaker 2>consequences for what happened that night. Anyone who could have

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<v Speaker 2>actually told on him in a real way, who was

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<v Speaker 2>in that car, they're dead. So the only person who

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<v Speaker 2>could convict him is himself. And that is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>is appearing to being, that is appearing to have occurred,

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<v Speaker 2>or is occurring right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. He has claimed this was all kind of just fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all kind of made up. It was just fiction.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an fiction, this posture, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to sound like a big man as possible. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have evidence of it.

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<v Speaker 2>What he say he's going to say that he falsified

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<v Speaker 2>his memoir, Yes, just to make it all sound good

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<v Speaker 2>for the publisher.

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<v Speaker 3>Which version were we supposed to believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're saying you were lying or embellishing in

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<v Speaker 2>your book already now you're not lying or embellishing to

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<v Speaker 2>protect yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Already sold all the copies I'm going to sell.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wonder how much that payout was and if

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<v Speaker 2>it was worth it. Now that he's been sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>prison for a couple of years awaiting trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember you weren't much of a rap listener

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<v Speaker 1>then nineties, but that was the heyday, right those Snoop

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<v Speaker 1>DOGG came along, Tupac and Big all that stuff was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Do you remember any semblance of an East

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<v Speaker 1>Coast West Coast rap rollery as.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, yes, East Coast, West Coast, Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't again at all. We've documented how little I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to rap in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was aware of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, I'm scared. No, I'm not going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>your follow up, but please to that point, robe something

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<v Speaker 1>that this thing that happened, everybody knows the Kendrick and

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<v Speaker 1>Drake beef. Okay, the most famous one prior to that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the East Coast West Coast rap rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dis tracks flying back and forth, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them more famous than others. But because these guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast and West Coast romes were actually affiliated

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<v Speaker 1>with real street gang members, when a fence was taken

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<v Speaker 1>through words that was the same as a fence being

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<v Speaker 1>taken on the street and it got deadly. It absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all in that Sean Diddy Colmes was right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of all this building up this East

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<v Speaker 1>coast versus Tupac's West coast, and people were dying, babe

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<v Speaker 1>over a thing we saw with Kendrick, and imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>getting deadly.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have Actually it's so funny. Just know I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard before we even knew this trial was happening, You've

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<v Speaker 2>talked a lot about that. And when we and you were,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously as so many people were into this Drake versus Kendrick,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking, like, thank god, it's just about music,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just about downloads.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it has you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about bullets. And I did think about that,

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<v Speaker 2>how far we've come. I mean, what is it we're

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<v Speaker 2>lessons learned in the nineties that how does why doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>it bubble over now like it did then? Because we're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about street gangs affiliated with record labels.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have, yes, this same level of gang activity

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<v Speaker 1>in the US that you had back then, I mean eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>nineties talking heyday time, the mom so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. But no, the image and they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a lot of that out of wrap.

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<v Speaker 1>They even had like a summit, like a piece summit

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<v Speaker 1>between the East and West. After these guys, Tupac and

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<v Speaker 1>Biggie got shot within six killed within six months. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and twenty four. So that's okay, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>have that. So yes, beefs bubble up. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>just this was a part of what was really a

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<v Speaker 1>dark and a sad time for music when two of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest stars who took hip hop worldwide and a

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<v Speaker 1>major way are dead before they even get going.

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<v Speaker 2>What's crazy is though, now you've got Sug Knight who

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<v Speaker 2>was in the car and Diddy who was a part

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<v Speaker 2>of all of it, and they're in prison for unrelated incidents.

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<v Speaker 2>But still it's you know, you think about just the

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<v Speaker 2>aftermath of all of that now present day, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Davis on trial and been in prison for

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of days years.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, when you think about it, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Discots from that era crazy. And you mentioned Sug and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Diddy. Stay here, how do those two play

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<v Speaker 1>into this trial? And yeah, could Sean Diddy Holmes be

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<v Speaker 1>transferred from one prison to a court room to testify.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. And we are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a trial that begins today on Monday, a

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<v Speaker 2>trial that has been thirty years in the making. We

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<v Speaker 2>are going to possibly see justice from nineteen ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>taking place. At least you're going to see someone finally

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<v Speaker 2>being held accountable for the death of Tupac Shakur. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the man who necessarily pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I think crazy after all this somebody's on Tromper's murder. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not the guy who actually shot him. No, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case. This is a guy who's accused of providing

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<v Speaker 1>the gun. This is the same guy here we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Davis Dwayne Keith Davis Ropes. He has claimed in

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<v Speaker 1>the past that Sean Diddy Holmes offered him money to

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<v Speaker 1>kill Tupac.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in his book, this book we've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>this memoir that has gotten him into so much legal trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet in that book he wrote that Sean Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>Coombs wanted sug Night and Tupac Shaker dead and offered

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<v Speaker 2>him money to kill them. Now, Diddy has denied any

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in that shooting. Has he specifically denied even making

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<v Speaker 2>the request.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I haven't seen officially, but I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>had no. There's nowhere where he's admitted that, yes, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I inquired about killing someone. I sure did. No, so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not. But es it was that kind of serious

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<v Speaker 1>back then, like lives were at stake. That thing got

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<v Speaker 1>ugly and we were eating it up, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>good for sales, and who's going to have the next record?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, we couldn't just have them uploaded,

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't fire them off. It took months before it

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<v Speaker 1>made the way to you. So you're the anticipation. You're waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to say the next thing? Man, these dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean TUPI had a disrecord. He said, my faux foe,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure all your kids don't grow you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just wrap woo. But these guys were firing off stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. And Tupac was before he was remember

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<v Speaker 1>before he was killed. He was shot here in New

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<v Speaker 1>York at a studio that he always blamed bad Boy

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<v Speaker 1>and Diddy and crew for. He never forgot shot five times.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know, it's crazy, because obviously words are weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about this all the time, But to think

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<v Speaker 2>that those words were actually turned into bullets, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>truly that it one thing led to another.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Diddy is not from what I gathered on.

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<v Speaker 2>Any witness list, but certainly there has been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of inquiry as to whether or not he could or

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<v Speaker 2>would testify in this case. It doesn't seem likely. But

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<v Speaker 2>what about Shuge Knight. That's the one that I'm confused by.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in prison right now serving a twenty eight year

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<v Speaker 2>sentence for running over and killing a Compton businessman outside

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<v Speaker 2>of a burger stand. But that was back in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>He has said previously that he would not testify in

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<v Speaker 2>Davis's case, But I was just curious, like, couldn't they

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<v Speaker 2>compel him to?

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<v Speaker 1>He's forced to.

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<v Speaker 2>He's literally the only living witness, or at least who

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<v Speaker 2>was in that car other than Davis, who's still alive today.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like you would want him to test Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't he testify? That certainly would be a spectacle

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. And he's not being quiet. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Oh Comb's like Diddy during that trial. He

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to reporters from prison non stop. So the

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<v Speaker 2>dude likes to talk, so I'm just curious why he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to testify in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's got something.

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<v Speaker 3>If you all could see the look on DJ's face.

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<v Speaker 1>HM, there's so many stories out there about Shoe Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>I've even sitting here. I'm not going to say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just have to take the fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost like what your face looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>I take the fifth. I'm not gonna even go further

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Roes, please do talking about sign right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right with that, folks, we're keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff today. I want to update you here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be following. Of course, we always appreciate you spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with us. I'm TJ for my dear Amy. Robog

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<v Speaker 1>will talk so

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<v Speaker 2>M