Speaker 1: Well, if you can't tell I'm congested, I'm sick.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm worried about you friend, because my friend
Speaker 2: can't even laugh?
Speaker 3: Did you hear that?
Speaker 4: But it's not just me.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody is sick, yes, and I understand it,
Speaker 1: but I also don't understand it right.
Speaker 2: And the thing that is making us all feel very
Speaker 2: nervous about everybody that's sick is the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's pandemonium panic about coronavirus. You know all on
Speaker 1: my Instagram and Twitter. Y'all are out here wearing nail
Speaker 1: shop mask and it's not right.
Speaker 4: I haven't said anything.
Speaker 2: I saw some of Walker had on gloves and masks.
Speaker 2: He's not playing around. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 2: that have been using all types of tricks to try
Speaker 2: and keep these germs away. My poor friend. You hear that?
Speaker 4: Sad laugh.
Speaker 2: We're going to get through this episode.
Speaker 4: We will. I'm going to try to suppress the cough.
Speaker 2: I'm TT and I'm Zakijah and from Spotify Studios.
Speaker 3: This is Dope Labs.
Speaker 1: This episode is all about coronavirus, and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: through everything we know up until this point with the
Speaker 1: coronavirus expert doctor Kizmikia Corbett from the National Institutes of
Speaker 1: Health or NIH.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's jump into the recitation.
Speaker 1: All right, So today we're talking about coronavirus. I know
Speaker 1: you're seeing those memes and.
Speaker 2: Tweet tweets and the articles, yes, news clips, everything. It's
Speaker 2: all over the internet.
Speaker 1: And it can all become really confusing really fast. I
Speaker 1: saw some pictures and I was like, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that these were even taken in twenty twenty. The people,
Speaker 1: the way the whole background looks. I was like, people
Speaker 1: are just reusing clips, sharing stuff.
Speaker 2: During images, but as a World Health Organization logo on
Speaker 2: it and just sending it out for.
Speaker 4: Everybody sharing it, and they're shared it for laughs.
Speaker 1: But then the next person that shares it doesn't say
Speaker 1: this was a joke for my friend exactly.
Speaker 4: And we have misinformation everywhere exactly.
Speaker 2: So people are walking around saying all types of stuff
Speaker 2: that I'm just like that that don't sound right, does not.
Speaker 1: Work, And I've been trying to not be a well
Speaker 1: actually in everybody's mentions, but it feels so tempting.
Speaker 2: So we know what you guys are saying on the internet,
Speaker 2: and in memes, but we wanted to know what y'all
Speaker 2: were saying on the street.
Speaker 5: I feel like the flu is more effective on the
Speaker 5: demographic based off the fact that there's more depths from
Speaker 5: the flu than it is Corona. As of right now,
Speaker 5: until we're able to get more scientific facts and see
Speaker 5: what's going on with it, I can't say too much,
Speaker 5: but I definitely think the flu is worse.
Speaker 4: You know, I think we're probably overreacting slightly.
Speaker 6: I did go on Amazon to see if they had
Speaker 6: any paper masks on Prime and they're all out, so
Speaker 6: I think they're all on Prime.
Speaker 4: I can borrow Okay, I'm going.
Speaker 7: To the party and they asked me to bring some beer,
Speaker 7: So went out yesterday.
Speaker 8: I bought a couple of six packs.
Speaker 7: When they bought some Corona and the checkout person said, oh,
Speaker 7: I'm glad someone's buying Corona, And she said, actually, sales
Speaker 7: of Corona are going down because people think but somehow
Speaker 7: Corona beer is connected to the coronavirus.
Speaker 2: Are you nervous?
Speaker 3: You travel a lot.
Speaker 8: I'm not nervous about coronavirus. I spent a lot of
Speaker 8: time in Liberia when the Ebola outbreak was in full swing,
Speaker 8: and so I guess I have a little bit of
Speaker 8: experience and working in those kinds of situations. And if
Speaker 8: you're careful and and and stay away from the most
Speaker 8: intense places, then there's not much danger. But I certainly
Speaker 8: don't think there's any danger anywhere in the United States
Speaker 8: or outside of a few places outside of Wuhan.
Speaker 2: This episode is going to be doubly as good because
Speaker 2: my friend Zakiya, who is whole in her chest as
Speaker 2: she's laughing, stop it. My poor friend is also an
Speaker 2: expert in all of these things, so she really understands coronavirus,
Speaker 2: how it moves and shakes and everything like that. So
Speaker 2: we're going to be using her brain to help us
Speaker 2: get through this episode.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm a coronavirus expert, but I love
Speaker 1: all things micro All the bacteria and viruses are my friends,
Speaker 1: and I love to learn about them and talk about them.
Speaker 1: This is the one time I've missed teaching microbiology. Okay,
Speaker 1: this feels like the best time to be in a
Speaker 1: class in a classroom.
Speaker 2: So what do we want to know?
Speaker 4: So we want to know?
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with I want to know. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: what I want to know is basic. I want to
Speaker 2: know what is a coronavirus. I want to know where
Speaker 2: it came from? How did this just come out of
Speaker 2: what seems like nowhere? What do you want to know?
Speaker 1: I want to know how is it spread? I want
Speaker 1: to know what's been changing over time?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And is there a need for panic and worry? What
Speaker 1: can we due to prevent transmission and spread?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: How much is in our hands? How much can we control?
Speaker 1: And how much is just set and stone? I love
Speaker 1: that let's jump into the dissection to help us out.
Speaker 1: We call them doctor Kismikia Corbett.
Speaker 9: I am Kismekia Corbett.
Speaker 6: I am a senior research Fellow and the scientific lead
Speaker 6: for the Coronavirus Vaccine and Inminopathogenesis Team at the National
Speaker 6: Institutes of Health National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
Speaker 6: Vaccine and Research Center.
Speaker 9: I am a North Carolinian, I'm black, I'm a woman,
Speaker 9: and all the things.
Speaker 2: So the question that I need answered because I mean,
Speaker 2: we know generally how virus moves and shakes because of
Speaker 2: our Protect your Neck episode that was lab for so
Speaker 2: I learned a lot from that, But I feel like
Speaker 2: this is different and I need to know what exactly
Speaker 2: coronavirus is.
Speaker 6: Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses actually, generally speaking,
Speaker 6: coronavirus infect bats, civic cats, etc.
Speaker 1: All right, did you hear that? Because I've seen your
Speaker 1: memes with corona beers and that's not the link.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: We asked doctor Corbett to explain why it's called a coronavirus,
Speaker 1: and she told us it has to do with the
Speaker 1: physical properties of the virus. The thing to remember is
Speaker 1: that the word corona is Latin for crown.
Speaker 2: I like my coronas with a line.
Speaker 6: Oh, the surface of the virus actually looks like the
Speaker 6: crown that a queen would wear. Right, So think about
Speaker 6: the inside of the virus being a queen's head and
Speaker 6: then the surface of the virus being like the crown.
Speaker 6: And actually that crown is made up of some proteins
Speaker 6: that are called spike proteins. They just are spiking up
Speaker 6: off of the surface of the virus. And so basically
Speaker 6: you have this ball with a crown of spikes around it,
Speaker 6: and that's what the virus looks like.
Speaker 1: Just building on that model of a ball with a crown.
Speaker 1: That ball contains the genetic information to make more virus
Speaker 1: when it enters a host sale and that ball is
Speaker 1: also coded in proteins that create kind of an envelope
Speaker 1: around it, and then some of those proteins stick up,
Speaker 1: and those are the spike proteins that give the coronavirus
Speaker 1: its name, which doctor Corbett just described. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: know that coronavirus is found in bats and civet cats,
Speaker 1: but are there any types of coronavirus that are infectious
Speaker 1: to humans?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: There actually are so two of them. You've probably heard
Speaker 1: of MERZ, which is short for Middle Eastern Respiratory syndrome,
Speaker 1: and so we had a big MYRRZ outbreak in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: and then SARS, which is severe acute respiratory syndrome.
Speaker 2: Right, I remember that in two thousand and three.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: There are also a couple other coronaviruses that are less
Speaker 1: well known, and sometimes when people say, oh I had
Speaker 1: the flu, or I felt I had this respiratory infection,
Speaker 1: or I felt bad, sometimes people have actually been infected
Speaker 1: by some of those other coronaviruses. So the coronavirus isn't
Speaker 1: new to humans. They're a respiratory virus family that we've
Speaker 1: known about. But this particular virus is new. Wow, that
Speaker 1: is crazy. So a lot of us might have had
Speaker 1: one of the other coronaviruses before, but not this one.
Speaker 1: This one is new, so scientists aren't now naming it.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: The coronavirus that's all of the news right now is
Speaker 1: called the twenty nineteen in coronavirus.
Speaker 6: And that INN stands for novel or new, So what
Speaker 6: that means is that it is new to humans and
Speaker 6: it is new to the phylogenetic tree.
Speaker 1: Scientists use the phylogenetic tree to understand relationships, so they
Speaker 1: may ask is this virus more or less closely related
Speaker 1: to another virus based on similarity.
Speaker 2: The symptoms of the twenty nineteen novel coronavirus are cough, fever,
Speaker 2: shortness of breath, and some patients have even reported having nausea, vomited, diarrhea,
Speaker 2: and in some cases symptoms progress to bronchitis or pneumonia.
Speaker 2: And now that we understand some of the basics about
Speaker 2: the coronavirus, let's look at what's happening right now. Where
Speaker 2: did this particular coronavirus come from?
Speaker 6: So there are you know, hundreds of species of coronaviruses
Speaker 6: that dwell in animal reservoirs.
Speaker 2: Animal reservoirs are animal sources where the virus might be found.
Speaker 2: So for the swine flu, the animal reservoir was pigs.
Speaker 2: For bird flu, it was birds. So even though the
Speaker 2: virus is new to humans, it had to have a
Speaker 2: host before, and scientists have been working to figure out
Speaker 2: where the new coronavirus was before it showed up in humans.
Speaker 6: It probably for however many years, I mean upwards of
Speaker 6: hundreds has been circulating in I think they've now named
Speaker 6: the reservoir to solidly be the bat, So it's probably
Speaker 6: been circulating in bats. Okay, So if a virus exists
Speaker 6: in bats, how does it get to humans?
Speaker 1: That's a good question, right, So the first thing you
Speaker 1: might ask is what's the genetics of it? Like, how
Speaker 1: is that even possible? Yeah, and it's possible that you know,
Speaker 1: we haven't encountered it before. We aren't that different from bats,
Speaker 1: That's the thing to remember. We're both vertebrates and mammals,
Speaker 1: you know, So there's genetic similarity between humans and bats,
Speaker 1: and our whole sales might be similar to bats, so
Speaker 1: we may have the same receptor door. You know, if
Speaker 1: you think about like we described it before as a
Speaker 1: virus knocking on the door trying to get in, we
Speaker 1: might have that same door that that coronavirus uses that
Speaker 1: was on bat cells, We might have that same receptor
Speaker 1: door on our cells.
Speaker 6: One of those things that is similar enough between us
Speaker 6: and bats in this particular case is the receptor for
Speaker 6: the virus. So the molecule on cells that this virus
Speaker 6: binds to is enough similar between bats and humans that
Speaker 6: with some slight modifications and evolution, which is what viruses do,
Speaker 6: they evolve, it could become more and more infectious to
Speaker 6: a human.
Speaker 4: So thinking about that, right.
Speaker 1: The first documented case of twenty nineteen in coronavirus was
Speaker 1: reported in Wuhan, China, at an open marketplace, and there
Speaker 1: are a variety of ways that it could have infected
Speaker 1: people there.
Speaker 2: The second thing is how do you get a bat
Speaker 2: and a human physically close enough to transfer the virus?
Speaker 2: You know, you can pick up bat poop in a
Speaker 2: cave and sequence tons of coronaviruses. I mean, so it
Speaker 2: could have just been you know, they're in a open
Speaker 2: seafood market. You know, bats fly in there at night,
Speaker 2: handle their you know business.
Speaker 1: I think doctor Corbett hit a really good point. You
Speaker 1: don't have to go into a cave to come in
Speaker 1: contact with a bat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, as our population grows and we're expanding in
Speaker 1: a different space, is what used to be wildlife area
Speaker 1: is now your backyard?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: I see fox running through my front yard almost every morning.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I don't see anything but my neighbor's dog wildlife.
Speaker 1: What we do know is that you can find coronavirus
Speaker 1: in batpoop. Okay, right, I don't even know what batpoop
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 6: Do you know?
Speaker 1: It could be on the table and I would pick
Speaker 1: it up too, because I wouldn't know what it was. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I would pick it up,
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 5: Know, I mean you don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: You don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: I have no idea it could be. It could look
Speaker 2: like erase or shavings. I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: brush this off.
Speaker 1: So now you got viral particles on your hand, and
Speaker 1: if you're working in an open air market, you could
Speaker 1: be So this is something where it could be on
Speaker 1: the food, right, or where you could be shaking hands
Speaker 1: with somebody or you can cover your mouth to cough
Speaker 1: or I mean anything right where this could be shared
Speaker 1: or spread around, or.
Speaker 2: Touch a door knob, or touch something that a lot
Speaker 2: of people touch. You get on the bus, yeah, you
Speaker 2: sit down in the bus seat, you touch the seat,
Speaker 2: you touch the handles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's so important. So if you work in
Speaker 1: the market, you have multiple opportunities to contact with tons
Speaker 1: of people, and then those people are contacting other people,
Speaker 1: and right now we don't know a lot about how
Speaker 1: the transmission works, right, And I think a good point
Speaker 1: that you made was that as our population grows and
Speaker 1: we have less space for the wildlife, so their habitats
Speaker 1: are getting smaller because we're encroaching on their space, the
Speaker 1: rate that we are going to be coming in contact
Speaker 1: with animal and like parts of their lives, whether it
Speaker 1: be their feces or whatever, is going to increase.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, it's so true.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is, even as a
Speaker 1: rate increases, it's important to know that not all animal
Speaker 1: viruses can adapt to humans. Even if a virus does
Speaker 1: make it to a human, that doesn't necessarily mean that
Speaker 1: it's going to become a global health emergency like this
Speaker 1: novel coronavirus.
Speaker 6: Has these bats, for example, or whatever animal is. Their
Speaker 6: reservoir carries the virus, and maybe a human does come
Speaker 6: in contact with it, and maybe a human does get.
Speaker 9: Infected with it. But we're not the natural host for
Speaker 9: these viruses. They're really not made for humans.
Speaker 6: So the virus doesn't hasn't built up the capability to
Speaker 6: replicate efficiently and transmit from human to human efficiently.
Speaker 4: And that is the key thing to remember is that
Speaker 4: viruses can evolve.
Speaker 2: So that virus at first brushes up against a human
Speaker 2: and that immune system has not seen this before, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't even really know what to do. But then
Speaker 2: also the virus itself doesn't know what to do. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have the tools it needs in order to infect
Speaker 2: and get into that hostel and get into the kitchen
Speaker 2: and start cooking.
Speaker 1: Yes, And so that one isn't able to replicate, right,
Speaker 1: That one maybe doesn't infect a human. But let's continue
Speaker 1: on in time, right, And so as the virus continues
Speaker 1: to exist in this animal reservoir, which we say is
Speaker 1: a bat. Now remember we have similarity to bats. So
Speaker 1: now your virus is robust. Right, It's like, hey, I've
Speaker 1: been lifting weights. I've been pumping iron. So now it
Speaker 1: interacts with a human in Wuhan, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got a Swiss army knife.
Speaker 4: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I know exactly how to pick this lock. This same
Speaker 1: key that I use in bats. I'm going to try
Speaker 1: it right over here. Skeleton key, skeleton key. Turns out
Speaker 1: we got the same lock, right.
Speaker 2: And now I'll let myself in.
Speaker 4: I'll let my that's right, I love my friend. I'll
Speaker 4: let myself in.
Speaker 1: And now it's using your cast are skilling okay, and
Speaker 1: it's cooking up more virus, just cooking up more virus.
Speaker 1: And so now you have virus that's replicating in humans.
Speaker 1: So it's adapted, right, and this particular coronavirus has adapted
Speaker 1: to be able to not only go from animal to human,
Speaker 1: but now to transmit from human to human pretty efficiently.
Speaker 2: There are now over seventeen thousand confirmed cases and over
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4: Deaths, and that number is just going to continue to rise.
Speaker 4: It's wild, it is.
Speaker 1: And because this has spread to over two dozen countries,
Speaker 1: the World Health Organization has declared the twenty nineteen coronavirus
Speaker 1: a global health emergency.
Speaker 2: When we come back. We'll talk about how the virus
Speaker 2: has spread, what scientists like doctor Corbett are doing to
Speaker 2: stop it, and what you should do in the coming weeks.
Speaker 2: And we're back. Let's talk about how coronavirus spreads. Infected
Speaker 2: people can share the virus by coughing, sneezing, or touching others.
Speaker 6: Diligence behind what you're doing in your everyday life can
Speaker 6: prevent a lot of infections. You know, coughing into your
Speaker 6: sleeve and not your hand, washing your hands, etc.
Speaker 1: We all know that people aren't great about keeping their
Speaker 1: germs to themselves. So how worried should we be about
Speaker 1: contracting coronavirus?
Speaker 9: You shouldn't be alarmed by Now there's human and human
Speaker 9: transmission in the United States, Like, that's what viruses do.
Speaker 1: A recent case of novel coronavirus in Washington State found
Speaker 1: that the virus is not only in the lung and
Speaker 1: lung excres so coughing and sneezing, yes, but it was
Speaker 1: also found in this individual's fecal matter, that's poop.
Speaker 2: This is another reason why handwashing is so important. This
Speaker 2: is how stomach viruses are transmitted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't think about that. Fecal to oral route.
Speaker 2: Right nasty.
Speaker 9: The virus is doing what it set out to do.
Speaker 6: Last time I checked, I believe the case fatality rate
Speaker 6: was around still around two or three percent rate.
Speaker 9: So the case fatality rate is fairly low.
Speaker 6: More often than not, the people that succumbed to coronavirus
Speaker 6: infections have prior ailments or our elderly.
Speaker 1: Two to three percent means two to three people per
Speaker 1: one hundred, right, So when you think about this, just
Speaker 1: for some context, MERZ killed about thirty percent of the
Speaker 1: people it infected. SARS kill is about ten percent, and that's.
Speaker 6: Not necessarily beneficial from an evolutionary standpoint for a virus
Speaker 6: like you don't want to kill your host.
Speaker 2: These viruses are setting up shop in your body rent free.
Speaker 2: They need you and your host seals is that they
Speaker 2: could keep replicating and existing.
Speaker 1: And so what we're talking about now is two to three.
Speaker 1: So the fatality rate for this coronavirus is much lower
Speaker 1: than the other two we've seen. Right, thinking about their existence,
Speaker 1: let's talk about their eradication. This gets us right to
Speaker 1: doctor Corbett's work. She and her team are working on
Speaker 1: a coronavirus vaccine.
Speaker 6: And this isn't as easy as you might think. You
Speaker 6: can't just say, make a vaccine. It's not trivial to
Speaker 6: create immunity. To that right, you have to do some things,
Speaker 6: some designing, protein engineering, manipulation, platform delivery.
Speaker 1: One of the most important steps to infection is viral attachment.
Speaker 1: That knocking on the wholesales door is done when a
Speaker 1: viral protein attaches to or binds to a receptor on
Speaker 1: a human cell.
Speaker 6: We study, you know, particular amino acid sites on proteins,
Speaker 6: and you know, study how various mutations and viral proteins effects,
Speaker 6: whether it be like an iminogenicity or expression in cell culture.
Speaker 1: Doctor Corbett is talking about a couple of things here.
Speaker 1: You want to understand what site on a protein is
Speaker 1: important for attaching to a wholesale and then you also
Speaker 1: need to understand which receptor on your wholet sale is important. So,
Speaker 1: for example, a lung cell has over a thousand different
Speaker 1: surface proteins. Oh my gosh, so somebody's got to figure
Speaker 1: out which one this newly discovered virus binds to.
Speaker 2: And doctor Corbett is optimistic that a vaccine will be
Speaker 2: in clinical trials soon and.
Speaker 6: The reason why the research is actually moving so fast
Speaker 6: is because people have been studying these, including myself for
Speaker 6: some time. You know, we study B cells, we study
Speaker 6: T cells here I don't particularly, but we do have
Speaker 6: a T cell expert in our lab. You know, we
Speaker 6: study the antibodies on the mono level. So like one antibody,
Speaker 6: we will study it for how well it binds to
Speaker 6: a thing, how well does it kill a virus, how
Speaker 6: well does it do this, what other the mechanisms does
Speaker 6: it have. All of these questions are in the backdrop
Speaker 6: of this vaccine design.
Speaker 1: But until the vaccine comes out, what should we do
Speaker 1: from a public health perspective?
Speaker 6: Be aware, but don't panic. You know, people are like, oh,
Speaker 6: should I get on the plane? What if somebody came
Speaker 6: in from China? First of all, the CDC is screening heavily,
Speaker 6: and they are the best in the world at what
Speaker 6: they do. The Centers for Disease Control, the United States
Speaker 6: Centers for Disease Control is amazing with diagnostics and prevention
Speaker 6: and screening. And so still get on planes, still hang
Speaker 6: out with your friends. If, for example, this thing turns
Speaker 6: out to spread across the country, I have no idea
Speaker 6: what it's going to do. But if it does turn
Speaker 6: out to spread across the country, Wash your hands and
Speaker 6: sneeze into your arm, go to work, come home, and
Speaker 6: go to sleep, and then when our vaccine comes out,
Speaker 6: take it the end.
Speaker 4: I think that was pretty clear advice.
Speaker 1: We went into this trying to figure out what a
Speaker 1: coronavirus is, where its name came from, and where it
Speaker 1: came from.
Speaker 4: And I think we've done those things. How it spreads.
Speaker 1: You know, we have one route that's lung secretions, coughing, sneezing,
Speaker 1: and we have another potential route oral fecal and then
Speaker 1: I think the next thing is how worried we should
Speaker 1: be about this. I think it's important to have some context.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of this early reporting about you know, transmission,
Speaker 1: So how many people can be infected from one case.
Speaker 1: That is transmission under a certain set of conditions, Right,
Speaker 1: that's transmission when nobody knows that coronavirus is a thing,
Speaker 1: and so that's transmission where you might have a different
Speaker 1: type of infrastructure. You have to remember this was an
Speaker 1: open wet market, so you're talking about open tanks and
Speaker 1: buckets with fish viral matter, you know, or fecal matter
Speaker 1: from bats in something that's in water splashing around everywhere.
Speaker 4: That's very different.
Speaker 2: Anything could happen, Anything could happen.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of variables that.
Speaker 2: Are important to determining the transmission rate, right, And we
Speaker 2: can't just neglect all those things and say, oh, all
Speaker 2: Asian people have coronavirus. That's racist, it's racist, and it's
Speaker 2: ridiculous scientifically, right. What we know is in this space
Speaker 2: and time where we are right now, global trade and
Speaker 2: global travel is real. Right, So, yes, this was identified
Speaker 2: in Wuhan, but that's it, right, It was identified in Wuhan,
Speaker 2: and everybody that's in Wuhan wasn't necessarily Chinese, and everybody
Speaker 2: that has coronavirus isn't necessarily Chinese exactly. And it's just
Speaker 2: so unfortunate because of the way that these viruses are named.
Speaker 2: They take the name of the place where it was
Speaker 2: first discovered, and so then you get this negative stigma
Speaker 2: associated with that place, and it's not really fair, I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 1: And what we also know is that you know, people
Speaker 1: are drawing back and making phases when someone is sneezing
Speaker 1: or coffin. Yeah, sure, but also the incubation period before
Speaker 1: you start showing symptoms is two to fourteen days. That
Speaker 1: means if you have a long incubation period, it takes
Speaker 1: a while before you can catch this stuff, right, And
Speaker 1: so that's part of why we see this really big
Speaker 1: increase in the number of cases, because you can be
Speaker 1: asymptomatic for a long time.
Speaker 2: Right. So, just like doctor Corbett said, there are things
Speaker 2: that we can do to help eradicate this disease from
Speaker 2: our communities, and that is doing the right hygienic things
Speaker 2: in order to make sure that the virus isn't spreading.
Speaker 2: If the virus can't spread and attached to another whost
Speaker 2: sale and you then and I got a choice but
Speaker 2: to go away.
Speaker 1: I think another thing just in the about hygiene, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to get into the mask. Okay, leave
Speaker 1: the mask to the public health workers. I see, y'all,
Speaker 1: you're wearing your mask inside out. I'm like that you've
Speaker 1: turned it the wrong way.
Speaker 2: They don't even have the right type of grade mask
Speaker 2: to keep out something of that.
Speaker 4: A viral particle is so small.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to go and research those.
Speaker 4: You need to read.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing here is to understand distance
Speaker 1: that viral particles can travel. So if we're talking about
Speaker 1: coughing and sneezing. And what's the travel distance for the
Speaker 1: uhan virus. It can only travel about six feet from
Speaker 1: an infected person. Okay, now we don't know much about
Speaker 1: it being able to exist on surface, how long that lasts.
Speaker 1: But just for perspective, you're worried about the coronavirus. But measles,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, can travel up to one hundred
Speaker 1: feet and it can stay alive for hours on the surface.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna drop that there. And so I
Speaker 1: think you know the those are kind of things that
Speaker 1: you need to think about.
Speaker 2: Don't sleep on coffing into your sleeve like some people
Speaker 2: are thinking that, Oh, the virus will travel through your sleep.
Speaker 2: Like it matters, Like if you put it on your hand,
Speaker 2: we touch everything with our fingers. Like if you put
Speaker 2: it in your in the in the what do you
Speaker 2: touch yourn, the clock on your arm. You're not touching
Speaker 2: things with that, yes, and all those little things make
Speaker 2: a big difference.
Speaker 4: It's so true. I think I've learned a lot about this.
Speaker 1: The coronavirus and how it's spreading has been a really
Speaker 1: good exercise for me in critical reading, right and what
Speaker 1: I see in inspecting the memes that I that people
Speaker 1: are sharing that I make sure I don't then share exactly. Also,
Speaker 1: it's a great exercise in public health, like what people understand,
Speaker 1: what they know and don't know, and it helps us
Speaker 1: see some of the outages, you know. I think for
Speaker 1: me this was a great eye opener and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to do a lot more science.
Speaker 4: Outreach to my own people, exactly, to my own folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it be your own people.
Speaker 4: That's it for Lab twenty three.
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Speaker 4: When you said wrong or got so nervous, I was like,
Speaker 4: you doing.
Speaker 2: It wrong now, I said I was talking to my thumb.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's not right, because then it's I
Speaker 2: don't mean.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't talk to me like that.
Speaker 2: I would not. I would never, So don't talk to
Speaker 2: you like that. Okay, I'll try my best.