1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: China or China. If we want to talk, like Donald Trump, 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: where you have a special Now it's time to talk 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: about it. It's time to talk about our number one 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: geo political foe. Russia's all over the news all the time, 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and Russia's significant in a big nuclear power. I'm not 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: dismissing that Russia's economy is less than Texas' economy. You 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: know that. China, on the other hand, China there's this 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: massive roughly equal to ours. They are a major, major 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: problem for us. But look, let's let's do a little 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: history rewind before we get to where we are, and 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: we have a jam pack show for you. All right, 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: just jam pack. We have China experts on all over 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the place. But remember this, China actually has a really, really, 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: really amazing history. Prior to all that communist filth. They 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: were all these different dynasties, ming dynasty that, all these 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: different dynasties, all these different monarchs in China's history. We're 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: talking thousands of years and just all kinds of fascinating 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: things happen. But eventually, you know how, We've talked a 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: lot about how I think there's going to be a 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: turning in the world Eventually China went through this turning 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: where the old monarchies were simply rotted and broken and corrupt. 22 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound familiar, by the way, anyway, they were 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: broken and rotten and corrupt. Had all these rebellions internally, 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: eventually got attacked externally from countries like Britain with the 25 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Opium Wars. It's a long way to say China eventually 26 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: lost its monarchs, got rid of its monarchs. They were 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: ruled by war lords really, and that from that sprouted 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: up the Communists and the nationalists. Chang Kai Shek as 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: a man who ran the Nationalists. He wanted a nationalist 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: government for China. We this is going to come into 31 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: play for what we're talking about here. We were backing 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Chang Kai Shek. Why because on the other side it 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: was the dirty, filthy communists, guys like Mao. Mao wasn't 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: actually in charge of the Communists in the beginning. He 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: eventually took over. But those were the competing factions, and 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: they were killing each other, the Nationalists and the Communists. 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: And we're sending Chang Kai Shek all kinds of guns 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: and munitions and trying to make sure the Communists don't 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: take over China. The communists won. World War Two came about. 40 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: The dirty Communists told the nationalists, hey, let's call a 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: truce while we fight the Japanese who were invading. And 42 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: then the communists brilliantly sat back and let the nationalists 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: fight the Japanese. And then once the nationalists were all 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: beat up Japan lost the war, Communists go fight the 45 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: beaten up nationalists and run them off to Taiwan. The 46 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: nationalists lass they escaped Taiwan. Now Mao's sitting there in China. 47 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: His communists have taken over the country of China. They're 48 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: looking across that straight at their enemies, the Nationalists, and 49 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: they're looking at them in Taiwan, and Mao's saying, Dang, 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get them, I'm gonna go finish them off. 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: America said, no, you're not. Remember at this point in time, 52 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: we had by far the largest, most powerful navy in 53 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: the world, and we simply told Mao, no, you're not. 54 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: Go ahead and stay on the shore. Shang Kai Shek 55 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: and the Nationalists are going to stay in Taiwan safe 56 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: from you. Now. I told you all that because I 57 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: wanted you to understand the depth of China's hatred and 58 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: resentment for us. There's a history there, We have a 59 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: history together. This is so much more than just some 60 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: political rhetoric between this guy or that guy. China despises 61 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: us for doing what they view as meddling in their affairs. Remember, 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: they were so angry about all that they sent hundreds 63 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: of thousands of Chinese soldiers to kill our marines in Korea, 64 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: just not very not very much later than all of this. 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: That's how angry they were. Now what are they doing here? Well, oddly, 66 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: we're going to go to Russia for a great quote, 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: because it's what China's doing to us. But it was 68 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: Nikita Krushchev who actually said the quote, we will take 69 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: America without firing a shot. We do not have to 70 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: invade the United States. We will bury you from within. Well, 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: that's what's happening to us right now. I look no 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: further than COVID. You remember what sparked the insane COVID 73 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: lockdowns that destroyed our economy. All that inflation, all that 74 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: stuff you're feeling right now was all the fall of 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the lockdowns. But what sparked the lockdowns, It wasn't COVID. Actually, China, 76 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: they won ceased air travel within their own country, they 77 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: stopped their travel, but they allow air travel to the 78 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: United States. So they sent us the virus on purpose. 79 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: And then China started putting out these propaganda videos. We 80 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: played them for you before on the show People getting 81 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: COVID and they're just falling over dead in the middle 82 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: of the streets, right, which we know that's not what 83 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: COVID does. Now that you remember, people like doctor Burkes 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: said they watched those videos and that's what scared them 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: into these lockdowns. That's what they used to walk into 86 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's office and tell them, hey, you better lockdown 87 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: America fifteen days to slow the spread. China did that 88 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: to us on purpose. And after China got done doing 89 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: that to us on purpose, here we are two years later, 90 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: trillions lost, the world's economy in shambles. However, many lives lost. However, 91 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: you want to add that up, and what has the 92 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: world done, What have we done to punish China for 93 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: such a thing. Nothing. Joe Biden got into office and 94 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: they promptly banned the word China virus so as we 95 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: don't offend the Chinese people. But it's way worse than that. 96 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: You see. How many people do you know? We'll talk 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: to Natalie Winners about this later in the show, but 98 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: how many people do you know use TikTok, the social 99 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: media app? Maybe you use it yourself. You understand that's 100 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: a Chinese spywear right. You understand that every single time 101 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: you're sitting there on TikTok, they're collecting your data, studying you, 102 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: studying what you watch, studying America as a whole. And 103 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: not only that, they're open about all this. How much 104 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: control do these people have in our society? How infiltrated 105 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: are they here? How much power do they have? Well, 106 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: you remember John Cena made some crappy Fast and the 107 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Furious movie, and all he did was acknowledged the existence 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: of Taiwan. Old China slapped him on the rear end, 109 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: and John Cena couldn't run out there speaking Mandarin fast 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: enough saying story, Well, your ego will be I gum 111 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: jin jung jungua gum jungen. Well, haunch uh nibio will 112 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: hung hun jong baa. How unbelievably embarrassing that is. But look, 113 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: that's how entrench they are. They have lobbyists all throughout 114 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: our government. Do I even need to mention all the 115 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden stuff, hitching rides with his father over to China, 116 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: cutting big deals. And remember, Hunter Biden is a lifelong loser. 117 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: This is not somebody with some qualifications where you'd want 118 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: to just invest with him. They invested with him so 119 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: they can have their hooks in Joe Biden. Do they 120 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: have their hooks on Joe Biden? Oh? I don't know. 121 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Watch this montage and you tell me. We want to 122 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: see China. China is going to eat our lunch. Come on, man, 123 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: China is not our problems. Arising China can be a 124 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: significant asset for the region of the world we talk 125 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: about as our competitor. We can help them with their problems. 126 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: They're not bad folks. Folks, but guess what, they're not 127 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: a They're they're not our competition for us. China is 128 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: not a problem. Lunch is bizarre. So what are we 129 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: What are we worried about? What a beautiful history we 130 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: wrote together. Oh, they're not gonna eat our lunch. No, no, no, no, 131 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: not at all. What are we currently doing? Well, we're 132 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: canceling missile tests so we don't defend them, which is 133 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: why a long planned minute man three ICBM test scheduled 134 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: for this week has been rescheduled for the near future. 135 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: As China engages in destabilizing military exercises around Taiwan, the 136 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: United States is demonstrating instead the behavior of our responsible 137 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: nuclear power by reducing the risks of miscalculation and misperception responsible. Yes, 138 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: China definitely respects that. That's probably why they're buying up 139 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: farmland near military bases within our borders and we do 140 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing about it. Oh wait, wait, wait, that's actually 141 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: not fair. That's not fair. I said we do nothing 142 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: about it. That's not true at all. We have the 143 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House going up calling them free. We 144 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: still support the one China policy. We go there to 145 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge the status quo is what our policy is. There 146 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: is nothing disruptive about that. It was only about saying 147 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: a China is one of the freest societies in the world. 148 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Don't take it from me. That's from freedom House. Let's 149 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: talk a little democracy. Courageous people. And it's just I 150 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: don't know why it is accept their commercial interests who 151 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: would like to diminish the relationship. Yeah, they're here, they're 152 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: lobbying us hard. They're buying up land here, they control 153 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: our entertainers. They very likely control the president of the 154 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: United States of America. Not good, right, Yeah, not good 155 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: at all. All right, all that may have made you uncomfortable, 156 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: but I'm right. Jack Pisovic knows a lot about all this, 157 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: all these military exercises and things. What's going on China, Taiwan? 158 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: Should you even care? We'll talk to Jack about it next. 159 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Are you willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan 160 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: if it comes to that, Yes, you are. That's a 161 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: commitment we made. We have said that we do not 162 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: support Taiwan independence, and we've said that we expect cross 163 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: trade differences to be resolved by peaceful meats. I'm so confused. 164 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Joining me now, my friend Jack Pisobic, host of the 165 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Human Events Daily podcasts on Apple Podcasts. Jack, I'm so lost. 166 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: What is our stance on Taiwan? Are we do we 167 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: believe it's a country? Do we believe it's not a country? 168 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: But where do we stand here? So? So, Jesse you 169 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that you mentioned that it's hard to 170 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: understand what our stance is, and it's it's quite similar. 171 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: This is an example of do as we say not 172 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: as we do. You know, believe what we say now 173 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: we're doing to look at judges by our words, not 174 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: by our actions. Very very simple, what's going on here. 175 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: The deal has been made. The deal has essentially been 176 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: made that the that the United States of America will 177 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: not militarily defend Taiwan. However, they can't say that because 178 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: if they were to admit it, then it would ruin 179 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: all of us credibility in every single negotiation. We do 180 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: not to mention, of course, everything that's going on with 181 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Ukraine and Russia right now. But you can see very 182 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: clearly from the actions of this administration and the words 183 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: remember not what Biden mutters and mumbles through at his 184 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: press conferences, but the words of the people actually running 185 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: the Biden administration from the White House. They're they're telling 186 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: you with their own lips that the United States doesn't 187 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: support the independence of Taiwan, that the United States essentially 188 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: will not be there for them. And so what we're 189 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: seeing right now currently the island as we speak, the 190 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: island of Taiwan is blockaded by the Chinese Navy right 191 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: People's Liberation Army Navy and ballistic missiles have been fired 192 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: across that island five times with eleven ballistic missiles total 193 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: fired across the strait. All right, this is exactly what 194 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: it would look like. The United States would be hanging 195 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: back and puffing up our chest and sending aircraft carriers around, 196 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, not actually doing much. Okay, 197 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: let's game that out for me, Jack, because you're great 198 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: at this stuff. So we're going to sit back and 199 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: not do anything. China wants Taiwan. Let's say they want 200 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: to take Taiwan. Now, from my understanding is they don't 201 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: want to destroy Taiwan. Part of the reason they want 202 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: to take it is it has so many vital things, 203 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: so you can't just fill the place up with ballistic missiles. Right, 204 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: what's an invasion like that look like. Well, it actually 205 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: does look more like a blockade. And I think usually 206 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: what I've been talking about Taiwan for years now, I've 207 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: always said that the blockade scenario is the most likely 208 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: your MLKA, your most likely course of action. Obviously, ballistic 209 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: missiles or nuclear missiles your most dangerous course of action. 210 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: But that's unlikely because remember, the situation between Taiwan and 211 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: China is actually the Republic of China versus the People's 212 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: Republic of China. The civil war from that ended in 213 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: nineteen forty nine left they knocked the Republic of China out, 214 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: but the original Government of China, or as many would say, 215 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: the legitimate Government of China, still resides in a form 216 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: on the island of Taiwan. The Communists were never able 217 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: to kick them out, are never able to take it over. 218 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: But it was the United States that began the slow 219 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: sell out of Taiwan in the nineteen seventies under Carter 220 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: when we switched diplomatic recognition. Then later in the nineteen 221 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: eighties nineteen nineties we started giving the Most Favored Nations status, 222 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: then even after Tieneman Square, allowing them into the World 223 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Trade Organization, and then sending these massive flows of Western 224 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: capital into China. So when you look at the Chinese army, 225 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: when you look at the Chinese navy, just understand that's 226 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: your Western dollars and your Western capital that went to 227 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: finance the massive growth of their military. What would it 228 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: look like, I think you're exactly correct. It would look 229 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: like a blockade. And then if any of their military 230 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: come out, I'm sure their submarines what they trained for 231 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: is is a submarine mine warfare, they would mind the porch, 232 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: they would try to mind the strait. You would get 233 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: into a war of attrition that of course, as we 234 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: would see just look at the massive, desparate sized differences. 235 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: If the United States isn't involved in this, then it's 236 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: only a matter of time for Taiwan, Okay, only a 237 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: matter of time can Taiwan make them feel it though, 238 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean they can strike back if they want to. 239 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they certainly have ability. They've got they've got fighters, 240 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: they've got bombers, they've got some missiles in their implements. 241 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, when you look 242 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: at any type of war of attrition there between China 243 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: and Taiwan, I mean, when it really comes down to it, 244 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: China has the ability to choke off Taiwan and to 245 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: starve them out on that island without even really firing 246 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: a shot, because if they can immediately take control of 247 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the maritime shipping routes inside the Taiwan Straight which I've 248 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: gone through when I was in the Navy, and then 249 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: outside the Taiwan Island itself over to the east and 250 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: the East China. See you're talking about essentially eighty to 251 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the world's goods that go through there. 252 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: And then just earlier today we saw Apple put out 253 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: a statement telling all their resuppliers, hey, make sure nothing 254 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: says made in Taiwan. Make sure everything says made in Taiwan, 255 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: come AA or Taipei Kama China. We know who the 256 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: companies are going to side with, because they've been siding 257 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: with the CCP for forty or fifty years at this point. 258 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I say, essentially it's a fatal company. 259 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: And it's only through the credible strategic deterrance of the 260 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: United States that this question has not been solved until now. 261 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: But when you got a guy like Joe Biden up there, 262 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: there is no strategic deterrance. So why does Putin do 263 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: what he does in Ukraine? Of course, because you got 264 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: the weakest administration in the history of the United States 265 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: in there, and so it would be not only incumbent, 266 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: it would be behoovens on Chijanping that if he wants 267 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Taiwan back. Remember Chijinping is going this November at the 268 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: twentieth Party Congress of the CCP that's going to be 269 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: held later this year. He's going for his lifetime appointment 270 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to the chairmanship. He wants to be the first lifetime 271 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: chairman of the CCP since Chairman Mao, and he already 272 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: got Hong Kong back. Remember he got Hunging back and 273 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: we did nothing. If he's able to be the one, 274 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: as they would say, it reunifies Taiwan with the mainland, 275 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: then the dissidents and the factions that are against him 276 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: within the CCP would not even be able to stand 277 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: a chance. They would the rest of the priority apparatics 278 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: would be begging for him to be party leader for life. Jack, 279 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Why should I care? The average person watching right now? Okay, 280 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: China is going to take Taiwan. What does it mean 281 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to them? What does it mean to anybody? Why should 282 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: we care? Well, we should care for two reasons, right. 283 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Number one, because that is Silicon Valley West. Sixty five 284 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: percent of your high end semiconductors are made there. Right. So, 285 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: if you want to buy a new truck, if you 286 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: want to buy a new computer, if you want to 287 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: buy a new phone, guess what Now, Rather than working 288 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: with Taiwan, you've got to go through the CCP. They 289 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: will have a choke hold, a bottleneck on all high 290 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: tech equipment that goes out not just to the United States, 291 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: but to the entire world. In fact, by the way, 292 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: the South Koreans even just put out a statement today 293 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: saying that they would not side with the United States 294 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: against China, that they would still rather side with South Korea, 295 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: the country that we fought for in the Korean War, 296 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: just said that they would side with China, who, last 297 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: time I checked, was part of the side that we 298 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: fought against in the Korean War. So you've got that 299 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: going on. Trillions of dollars in trade between South Korea 300 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: and mainland China right now. But also it's an issue 301 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: for the United States because China represents an existential threat. 302 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: The rise of the CCP does two Americans. That's where 303 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: all our foreign capital is going. Those are the ones 304 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. Look, Jesse, I was at Davos. 305 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: I got detained out there by Klaus Schwab's little henchman. 306 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: Put out a little you know, put me on a list, 307 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: said go run me up with some nine millimeters, got 308 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: frisk hen in the front hand of the back. Didn't 309 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: even take me to dinner first. At least you do that, 310 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: Jesse but but so we heard Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine 311 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: everywhere at Davos. What word was not said at anywhere 312 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: at Davos, Taiwan. Why Because the cc P has already 313 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: made the deal with the World Economic Forum, with the Left, 314 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: with everyone else in the West. They want this and 315 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: we are already caltowing to them. Jack, I hate to 316 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: bring up old stuff, but didn't China produce a virus 317 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: that has bankrupted the world's economy and killed a bunch 318 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: of people? No? No, come on, that's so twenty twenty. 319 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're just living in the past. 320 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: You're completely living in the past. No. Look, when it 321 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: comes down to it, you know, I've never you know, 322 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: when you find a virus that's got a spike protein 323 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: that directly affects humans in a way that no other 324 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: COVID virus that we've ever been able to see can 325 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: hit fit those a's two receptors. Right, and again, this 326 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: was the exact gain of function experiment that was being 327 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: done at the Wuhuan Institute of Horology. And then suddenly 328 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: we've got this thing that spills out into the human population, 329 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: conveniently located right next to the Wuhuan Institute of Horology. 330 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: But we're told, you know, it's just a wet market 331 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and all of this. Look at the end of the day, 332 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: if we had a serious government, Jesse, we would be 333 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: demanding trillions of dollars right in compensation for everything that 334 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: the CCP put us through. Whether or not they were 335 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: involved in the development of that virus, they certainly responsible 336 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: for the spread of that virus when they shut down 337 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: domestic travel. But their ambassadors were here in Washington, DC 338 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and even in Italy as the bodies were piling up 339 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: in Milan and other parts of northern Italy. They were 340 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: demanding that we go and we allow those flights out. 341 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: And Nancy Pelosi, of course, is running around and saying, 342 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: go to Chinatown and go to the parades and have 343 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: a good time and just hug people and it'll be wonderful. 344 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Jack Posillibic Human Events daily, Thank you, my brother, always 345 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: a pleasure, Jesse. That's how good is it? All right? 346 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Don't worry, don't worry. I've finished here yet. We have 347 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Dan Chain coming up next. He's going to educate us 348 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: a little bit more on the CCP. We hear a 349 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: lot about them, the Communist Chinese Party. Who are they? 350 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: What are they? We'll find out next. Jiji and Ping 351 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: recently had this to say, not exactly original. You'd expect 352 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: something more from, you know, the Confucian society. But anyway, 353 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: quote those who play with fire will eventually get burned. 354 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Of course, talking to Joe Biden about that. Okay, so 355 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: he's threatening us. What can they do though? Aren't you 356 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: curious about that? I am joining me now, Dean Chang 357 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: with the Heritage Heritage Foundation. You've spent your career studying 358 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the Chinese military. Dean Americans know a little about their military. 359 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: They don't know anything about the Chinese military. What can 360 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: they do? What can't they do? Well? The Chinese military 361 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: actually is a full service organization, so they have a 362 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: substantial nuclear capability, and it's growing. We have now seen 363 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: of the last two years, three hundred nuclear silos being 364 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: built in western China. So that's going to give them 365 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: a nuclear capacity that is going to start very quickly 366 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: to approach that of US and the Russians. Both of 367 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: us are limited by nuclear arms control agreements. The Chinese 368 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: have one of the world's largest navies and it's one 369 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: of the world's newest navies, so they are building aircraft carriers. 370 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: They are building surface warships, some of which look a 371 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: lot like our arly Burke class Egist destroyers. They are 372 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: building cruisers, they're building amphibia ships, and they are expanding 373 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: their naval infantry force, their version of our US Marine Corps, 374 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: so they are obtaining the ability to storm beaches, to 375 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: take islands like Taiwan that one of the world's largest 376 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: air forces, and included in that is not only fighters 377 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: and fighter bombers and bombers, but also airborne early warning 378 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: aircraft like our a WAX. So they are rapidly moving 379 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: beyond just combat aircraft the combat support capabilities, and those 380 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: capabilities are important because they're the kinds of capabilities that 381 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: allow you to efficiently apply your combat power. They're building tankers, 382 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: They're building a strategic bomber now, the H twenty, So 383 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: no other country at this point is building new strategic bombers, 384 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: although we have won the B twenty one on the books. 385 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps most importantly is that they are building a space 386 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: and cyber force. We have seen the Chinese test anti 387 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: satellite capabilities and they're expanding. We've seen them hacking all 388 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: sorts of places, everyone from Coca Cola to the US 389 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: government to the Office personnel management, and a lot of 390 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: that is being done by the Chinese military. Even a 391 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: lot of the commercial espionage less talked about is Chinese logistics, 392 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Chinese training. These are all these softer parts, but that 393 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: allow a military to actually use its equipment efficiently, use 394 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: its equipment well. It's one of the things that differentiates 395 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: I think the Chinese from say, some of the Arab 396 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: militaries of the nineteen sixties and seventies. They had lots 397 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: of modern equipment, but hadn't trained well on them. Okay, Dan, 398 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: that's all sounded pretty horrific. Let's focus on nuclear here quickly. 399 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: Does China have the ability as we do to deliver 400 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons in multiple different ways really anywhere on the 401 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: planet if they want to? Are they there? Are there? 402 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: Where we are, where Russia is. They don't have as 403 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: many nuclear weapons we think as we and the Russians 404 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: do at this point. They don't have quite as many ICBMs, 405 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: but they are building them, and they are building quite 406 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: a few of them. They're building road mobile ones, the 407 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: DF forty one, They're building ones that will go into silos. 408 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: They're building nuclear powered submarines that will carry ballistic missiles. 409 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: They're building about five of those. More resomely, they have 410 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: tested now a weapon that would go into orbit. We 411 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: and the Russians both looked at this in the nineties sixties. 412 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: We both agreed that was so destabilized we wouldn't develop 413 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: that capability because if you develop something like that, you 414 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: have to start assuming that every satellite that China puts 415 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: up there could be carrying a nuclear warhead. The Chinese 416 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: understand that they nonetheless tested something like this recently. It's 417 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: suggesting that maybe they don't think about nuclear stability the 418 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: same way we and the Russians do. Okay, Dan, you're 419 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about bombers, aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons. These things 420 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: are all big and scary, but they're also very expensive. 421 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: I understand China is a gigantic economy, but man, that's 422 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: a really expensive military you just describe for a country 423 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: that's still locking itself down, how do they have the 424 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: money for this? So part of this is that the 425 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: Chinese economy is not like ours. We have a mostly 426 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: capitalist economy. So at the end of the day, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, 427 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: those companies really do have to show a profit, otherwise 428 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: they go out of business. China's military industrial complex is 429 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: largely dominated by state owned enterprises. These are companies that 430 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: literally have access to China's banking system, also run by 431 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the government, so that if they don't show a profit, 432 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: they basically get money from the central system to make 433 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: a payroll. That allows them to do experimenting with R 434 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: and D, that allows them to produce stuff that isn't 435 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: necessarily commercially viable. It allows them to pursue multiple projects, 436 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: some of which may fizzle out. Not having a profit motive. 437 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: It means it's a lot less efficient. It means it's 438 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: potentially a lot more corrupt. But it also means that 439 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, when the government says so, they'll make tanks, 440 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: aircraft carriers, etc. Okay, it's less efficient, it's more corrupt, 441 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: but government controlled makes it sound to me like the 442 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: quality may not be there, But I don't want to 443 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: undersell them. What is the quality of all these It's 444 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: one thing to put a big aircraft carrier in the water. 445 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: That's another to have it be as modern and good 446 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: as are. They're part of the answers we don't know 447 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: the Chinese haven't fought a war since nineteen seventy nine, 448 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: so we don't really have a good sense of the 449 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: quality of the Chinese military. What we do know is 450 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: that their military equipment varies. Some of their foreign exports 451 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: have been denounced by the customers, who've basically said this 452 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: is terrible stuff. On the other hand, China also manufactures 453 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: UAVs and exports them, often to countries that we won't 454 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: export to, like the United Arab Emirates. They seem to 455 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: be fairly happy with the UAVs, So I think that 456 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: in general it is it's got to be a judgment 457 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: on case by case basis. With regards to Chinese aircraft 458 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: carriers as an example, they are at the moment a 459 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: little smaller, they're not quite as versatile as ours are, 460 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: but they are currently building one that looks a lot 461 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: like our last conventionally powered aircraft carriers to John F. 462 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Kennedy and the USS America class, and those carriers, certainly 463 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: we're capable of operating even without nuclear power plant. Dean, 464 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: what about their missile capability? Now, A lot people a 465 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: lot smarter than me, say that that is going to 466 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: be the next big conflicts between major powers last time 467 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: it was aircraft carriers. Next time it'll be missiles, long 468 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: range missiles, not just nuclear stuff. I know Russia is good. 469 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: I know we're pretty good. How's China? China is frankly innovative. 470 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: They have developed an anti ship ballistic missile. Again, haven't 471 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: tried it out in combat, but we think that it 472 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: poses a very significant threat to our aircraft carriers. No 473 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: other country, none, not even the Soviets developed an anti 474 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: ship ballistic missile. We in the Russians but developed anti 475 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: ship cruise missiles. The difference is that a ballistic missile 476 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: is much faster, It could potentially carry multiple warheads. We're 477 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: taught about hypersonic warheads. China is one of the world's 478 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: leaders in developing hypersonic capabilities. You pair those two together, 479 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about carrier killers, and that's what the Chinese 480 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: have been working on. Okay, Russia, I saw recently China, Russia, Iran, 481 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: they're doing some war games together. Okay, is this just 482 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: saber rattling trying to intimidate us? Are these three countries 483 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: forming some new axis of evil type thing? We should 484 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: be laying awake at night worrying about what's the deal. 485 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to form an alliance for 486 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: there to be co ordination to make America's life miserable. So, 487 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: for example, Russia just launched a spy satellite on behalf 488 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: of Iran. Supposedly it's an Iranian satellite, it may well 489 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: be a Russian satellite reflaged. The point is Iran now 490 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: has the ability to watch US move forces around in 491 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: the Middle East. Iran has worked with North Korea, at 492 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: least with regards to missile development. So North Korea has 493 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: developed some pretty good missiles. North Korea has we think, 494 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: also cooperated with the Chinese and missile development. So you 495 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: can see how this creates a very tangled web. The 496 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: point is, whether it's Tehran, Beijing, Moscow, Pyongyang, they all 497 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: agree America is the problem. America needs to be put 498 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: in its place, and all of these countries, even if 499 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: they're not working together, are willing to at least coordinate 500 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: with each other to put America in its place. Dean 501 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: China's adversaries. Surely there are more than just us. What's 502 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: the I know, India's gigantic, what's that relationship? Like, what 503 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: are India's capabilities? So India is rapidly going to become 504 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the most populous country in the world, but its economy 505 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: is not nearly as developed as China's. Chinese the number 506 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: two economy in the world. India is not. India has 507 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of software developers, It's less clear how good 508 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: it is on hardware. India's military industry is frankly not 509 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: very good. They have tried to create an indigenous combat 510 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: aircraft industry, space industry, aircraft carries, et cetera. Their space 511 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: capabilities are growing, but again not quite where China's are 512 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: combat aircraft wise, tank wise, They're still dependent on imports. 513 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: China's biggest concern aside from the United States is probably Japan. 514 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Japan has a large military self defense forces. They're technologically sophisticated, 515 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: there's a long history of animosity, and of course Japan 516 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: is a firm ally of the United States. So all 517 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: of that adds up to if you are in the 518 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: by E building the Chinese Ministry of Defense building in Beijing, Tokyo, 519 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: is one of your biggest regional concerns. Okay, well, Lisa, 520 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: is that what about South Korea? They helping us out? 521 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: South Korea is a US ally. South Korean We are 522 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: clearly both worried about North Korea. The government in Seoul 523 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: right now is much more pro American than the previous 524 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: president was in South Korea. But South Korea's main concern 525 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: is North Korea, and they understand that. One of the 526 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: problems here is that China is the main support of 527 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: North Korea. If they wanted keep North Korean check they have, 528 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: they can't afford to have catastrophic relations with China, and 529 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: China knows that, so trying to leverages this. Of course, 530 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: Dan Chang, that was outstanding. I wish I could have 531 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: you for an hour. Thank you man, Thank you for 532 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: having me. All right, how about that for a wealth 533 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: of knowledge. We'll be back. All right, Let's have a 534 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: little heart to heart, just just doing me before we 535 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: bring Natalie, and let's have a heart to heart. I'm 536 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: not judging you, no judgment here. I do all kinds 537 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: of things I shouldn't do. I'm a terrible person. Do 538 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: you have TikTok? Do you watch it with your kids? Wife? Husband? 539 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: You do TikTok? I know, I know it's popular. I 540 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: know it's fun. I've got family members of mine using it. 541 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: You really should not have TikTok, You really shouldn't. Trump 542 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: tried to ban it for a reason. Just recently, FCC 543 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: commissioner tried to get Google to drop the Dagon thing 544 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: from the app store and Apple. Why shouldn't you have TikTok? 545 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 1: Let's ask Natalie about it. Natalie Winters joins me, now 546 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: an actual journalist, It's amazing those people still exist, investigative 547 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: reporter for the Great National Pulse. Natalie, why shouldn't people 548 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: have TikTok? Well, there are so many reasons, and I 549 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: think the first one that comes to mind is the 550 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: fact that the app is so deeply tied to the 551 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party. There's obviously national security implications there, but 552 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I think when you really get into the weeds about 553 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: all the nefarious changers and threats of those app poses, 554 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: that's just kind of a tip of the iceberg. This 555 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: app has also been used to collect biometric data on 556 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: its users. They push a lot of left wing content, 557 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: even pushing pro China content, which comes as no surprise 558 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: as the app is very very closely controlled and monitored 559 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: by its Beijing based regulator in its Beijing based parent company, 560 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Byte Dance, And I think at the end of the day. 561 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: The most important thing for people to remember is that 562 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: any company that's based in China, of which TikTok is 563 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: a subsidiary of a company that is based in China. 564 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: Due to the country's National Intelligence Law, specifically Article seven, 565 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: it stipulates that any company based in China can be 566 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: requisitioned by the Chinese Communist Party to help fulfill the 567 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: end of the state. And when you read the law 568 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: they leave that intentionally very vague. So, really, however, the 569 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party wants to use TikTok, they can. Whether 570 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: that's to gather data, to push specific narratives, viewpoints, frankly, 571 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: fake news, you name it, they can do it. So really, 572 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: it is a kind of a dream for the Chinese 573 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: Communist Party in terms of the ability to influence American politics. 574 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to the pushing pushing data part or pushing 575 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: themes part here in a second. I want to first 576 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: get to the whole stealing data because this is a 577 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: conversation I had with a friend of mine. Actually last week, 578 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: he was watching something on his phone, started laughing. I asked, 579 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: he said, it's a TikTok video, So of course started 580 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: scolding him about having TikTok. I told him they're stealing 581 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: your data, and he said to me, So why should 582 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: I care, Natalie, Why should people care? Well, there's so 583 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: many reasons that people should care. And I think it's 584 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: interesting because the Trump administration obviously kind of launched the 585 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: crusade to ban TikTok from the homes and the apps 586 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: and phones of millions of Americans, and they cited a 587 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: bunch of reports, and there was a lot of independent 588 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: reporting into how the app gathered not just actual activity 589 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: on the app, right what you're interested in, companies you're 590 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: interested in, but even background data. But what's been really 591 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: really interesting is that since the Biden regime has taken over, 592 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: there've actually been a lot of insider reports from within 593 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: the company sort of validating, if not vindicating, the Trump 594 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: era claims about the app. You've seen a lot of 595 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: people who work for the app admitting that TikTok takes 596 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: data from you in terms of other apps that they're using. 597 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: And again, I think it just goes to the bigger 598 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: question and really the bigger threat, which is of course 599 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party. You know, people are scared that 600 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party is trying to harvest genetic information 601 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: from millions of Americans. Well, I think having access to 602 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: your phone, the people you interact with, your credit card information, 603 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that kind of is a similar threat in 604 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: terms of the invasiveness and the lack of privacy that 605 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: you see. And believe me, the Chinese Communist Party they 606 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: don't respect the privacy of their own people, so I 607 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: highly doubt they would do the same for Americans. All Right, finally, 608 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: before we switch gears, you're promoting things? How do they 609 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: promote things? I mean, I don't have it, so I 610 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: don't know, but I assume people search out the videos 611 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: they want to watch. Right, So, there was actually a 612 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: report not too long ago that TikTok was intentionally boosting 613 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party propaganda, specifically stories and videos that were 614 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: either long editory towards the leader the Chinese Communist Party, Shijinping, 615 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: and also censoring stories that were critical. So you especially 616 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: saw stories about like, for example, the Tanneman Square massacre. 617 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: But I think what's really interesting about this is it 618 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: goes back to the fundamental premise of TikTok. So this 619 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: app was launched after in twenty eighteen, when the founder 620 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: of TikTok, had actually had to shut down a previous 621 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: app because the Chinese Communist Party said that he wasn't 622 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: doing a good enough job regulating it to make sure 623 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: that the content moderation was in line with the values 624 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: of the Chinese Communist Party. So as a result, he 625 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: pledged publicly that he would use in all his future 626 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: apps and future business endeavors that he would promote devotion 627 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: to the Chinese Communist Party and quote promote socialist core values. 628 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: So you name it socialism, communism, this app promotes it. 629 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: And that's not me paraphrasing. That's a direct quote from 630 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: the apps founder itself. So you have it. That's from Natalie. 631 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: All right, now, Ali, we're going to switch gears here. 632 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Grandma Vodka had a real doozy of a statement recently here. 633 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: It was we still support the one China policy. We 634 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: go there to acknowledge the status quo is what our 635 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: policy is. There is nothing disruptive about that. It was 636 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: only about saying China is one of the freest societies 637 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: in the world. Don't take it from me. That's from 638 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Freedom House. Let's talk a little democracy, courageous people, and 639 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know why it is, except there's 640 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: some commercial interests who would like to diminish the relationship 641 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: one of the freest countries in the world, a strong democracy. Natalie, 642 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: I can't seem to figure Grandma Vodka out. One second 643 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: she's trying to start World War three with China, the 644 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: next second she's doing the Kamala Harris on China. Who 645 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: is this woman? Well, I know you just showed me 646 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: an NBC clip, but it's kind of hard to distinguish 647 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: between at and some of these Chinese state re media outlets, 648 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: because that's the kind of propaganda that you hear. But 649 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: I think this goes to I think the broader idea 650 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: about Nancy Pelosi's trip to China and why it seems 651 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: that her messaging on the Chinese Communist Party is sort 652 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: of all over the place. And this is because at 653 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're not dealing with someone 654 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: who can engage with the Chinese Communist Party in a 655 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: fair and unbiased way. You're dealing with someone who has 656 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: a very, very checkered history when it comes to conflicts 657 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: of interest with the Chinese Communist Party. A revolving door 658 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: between a lot of her staffers going to work for China, 659 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: And of course I think the proof is in the pudding. 660 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that this is someone who 661 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: is arguably one of the most powerful politicians in the 662 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: United States and during her tenure. If anyone wants to 663 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: argue that the Chinese Communist Party's power has been diminished 664 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: in the United States, they'd be very, very very mistaken. 665 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi has been probably one of the largest boons 666 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: to the Chinese Communist Party and their growth. And that 667 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: is all you need to know about where Nancy stands 668 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: on the Chinese Communist Party. They frankly, maybe Joe Biden 669 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: and her hunter Biden would give her a run for 670 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: her money, but no greater ally than her on this 671 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: side of the sea. Natalie, come back soon, thank you. 672 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: All right, We're not done, don't worry, hang on. We 673 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: have to talk about it, and we we have to 674 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: dig them out of here. That's the real, uncomfortable truth. 675 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: And we like to look at ourselves as this land 676 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: of the free and land of the free, Land of 677 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: the free, Yeah we are, but we only remain the 678 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: land of the free if we don't allow communists subversives 679 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: to take over the country. We need to dig China 680 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: out of the United States of America. They don't get 681 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: our farmland, they don't get to own our entertainers, they 682 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: don't get to lobby us in Washington, and they certainly 683 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: don't get to own the President of the United States 684 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: of America and his family. Remember, they're not hiding their intentions. 685 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: China has published papers announcing their intention to knock us out, 686 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: to knock us off number one and the world stage. 687 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: They admit it. I don't know why we choose to 688 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: ignore it. We have to get a lot more aggressive 689 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: getting China out of here and keeping them in check. 690 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll do it again.