WEBVTT - Episode 70: Matt McCarty

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<v Speaker 1>The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how

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<v Speaker 1>much the equipment matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that I can hit any shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell

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<v Speaker 3>some fun stories about what goes on here to help

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<v Speaker 3>golfers play better golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to the Pinging proven Grounds podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Bake and Marty Jerts in a second appearance for

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<v Speaker 1>mister Mat McCarty. You're like a now a podcast regular.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, happy to be back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five. I know this season, I know maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't played as good at golf as you play,

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to go back to twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>for a bit, because you know, you have this breakout,

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the corn Ferry Tour, you flip to the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, you win pretty much instantly. Have you had

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<v Speaker 1>time to like process twenty twenty four like and just

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<v Speaker 1>you do you have time like this winner to just

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and go like what I was able to do,

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<v Speaker 1>how I was able to play, Like if you had

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<v Speaker 1>any time to kind of think about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think when you're kind of just going

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<v Speaker 4>like that, it just kind of everything happens and you're

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<v Speaker 4>just playing good golf and everything kind of snowballs on itself.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh yeah, definitely to kind of you know, reminisce

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, but also kind of think about like

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing well or what I was doing well,

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<v Speaker 4>like what I need to kind of keep doing, keep

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<v Speaker 4>improving and working on. And uh was a good off season.

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<v Speaker 4>A little shorter than I was used to, but that

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<v Speaker 4>was all all positive, So it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>What is like the definition of off season Like, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Only in a few weeks. Yeah, yeah, this year, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it flew by.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like it was just like it's six weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>but it flew by in a couple So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>was good. I mean a lot a lot of sitting

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<v Speaker 4>on the couch watching football after twenty nine events in

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<v Speaker 4>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice to you know, spend time with family and friends

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<v Speaker 4>and just kind of you know, not be bouncing around

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<v Speaker 4>city of city every week, is you know, kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>What what what type of practicing training? What did you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of do during the off season here?

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of just kind of out, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my body was kind of a little run down after

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<v Speaker 4>last season, so just trying to kind of recover a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit a little bit like strength training, get back

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<v Speaker 4>in the gym, lift some weights and but yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>then just kind of give yourself some time to rest,

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<v Speaker 4>I think like mentally as well, just kind of turn

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<v Speaker 4>turn your prain off from golf a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Yeah, it was good, and I spend the holidays.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, excited to kind of you know, get

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<v Speaker 4>going out here too and be right back in it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking before you got going about you shooting

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine. You said your fourth professional tournament, Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you said? Or fourth professional round is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like turn Yeah, fourth professional tournament in the Wyoming stayed open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you said, you know, one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>things we've talked a lot about. It is a cliche

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<v Speaker 1>and professional golfs like the round after and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go out there and you shoot even

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming in a way you start twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>you have this incredible twenty twenty four and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>back to the grind, you know. You hear players talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the first one on the PGA Tour and then

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday comes around and it's you know, you're even again, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like tied with everybody else. Has it been difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of jump start twenty twenty five after what

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<v Speaker 1>happened last season or have you been energized to get

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<v Speaker 1>the year going now?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think got kicked in the teeth a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit early at Centric. I mean, shooting like six

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<v Speaker 4>under Friday, I think, and I played okay, and you

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<v Speaker 4>just get.

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<v Speaker 2>A lapped by that entire field.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, yeah, No, it's been good, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's definitely different out here. You know, the courses are

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more challenging. Obviously, the caliber of other

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<v Speaker 4>players is higher.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you're a little off out here and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of can get exposed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, it's exciting and dream come true to

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<v Speaker 4>be out here, and especially like growing up in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 4>and starting on the West Coast swing, like very comfortable,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of getting some events in California, went to college

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<v Speaker 4>there and haven't really played you know, tournaments there in

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<v Speaker 4>the last three years. So it's been been a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of fun to kind of be background home and background

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of like friends and family.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, it has been good.

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<v Speaker 3>You've I think shooting fifty nine, you got the capability

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<v Speaker 3>of going low. How does that like? And then you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about century where the scores are really really low, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that mindset of like continue to make birdies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean when you won last fall, what you were

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four under, twenty three I think twenty three under.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, just what's it like to kind of be

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<v Speaker 3>in those tournaments where you have to keep making birdies,

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<v Speaker 3>keep making birdies, shoot six seven unders a day?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean you kind of just got to keep

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the pin and just visualize seeing it go close,

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<v Speaker 4>but really like not really kind of think about where

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<v Speaker 4>you're at and literally like each hole is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>its own thing, and you know, once you get to

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<v Speaker 4>like five six seven under, I think that's the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that you learn a lot, or at least I learned

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<v Speaker 4>a lot on the corn Ferry Tour. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you shoot three four under out there and you're kind

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<v Speaker 4>of getting laps. You kind of got to learn how

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<v Speaker 4>to shoot you know, six seven eight nine hunderbar a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of times, and you know it's very important to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just keep the pedal down when you're out

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<v Speaker 4>there and on a good day and then days when

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<v Speaker 4>you're kind off just kind of figure out how to

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<v Speaker 4>scrape something around out there.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think when you look back on twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, the run you had on the corn Ferry Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>you win the three times, and then you went on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour, when you took some time to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think back to the season, how I played all

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<v Speaker 1>the good stuff? What do you think you did the best? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the part of your game mentally, physically, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be that you feel like took you

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<v Speaker 1>to that place.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I think more than anything, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>what I've been talking about with like a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people on my team the last few weeks is just

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<v Speaker 4>just I was just playing golf, like very simil put

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<v Speaker 4>but not like you know, thinking about golf swing, not

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about like my stroke putting, but just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>trying to visualize each shot, commit and just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>hit it as close as you can, try.

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<v Speaker 2>To make the ball in the hole as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, just that joy that comes with that

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<v Speaker 4>of just playing the game, and just playing golf in

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<v Speaker 4>general I think is super important for me. But also

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<v Speaker 4>like to have success and just kind of that freedom

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<v Speaker 4>that comes with that is uh usually the best thing

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<v Speaker 4>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like Marty, we had this window. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're do the Corn Ferry Tour, you know, on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember mad I think he won a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times at this point. Maybe we're like in Utah

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and we have him in the window, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was pumped because, like, you've been played so well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've known Mat for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>you played okay in the opening round. You might have

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<v Speaker 1>shot like one under and like all right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's fine. You know, he's having a good

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<v Speaker 1>season whatever. Like the next day you shot like ten under,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, I he is having fun. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is really fun right now. When you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>even when the round's not going your way or the

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<v Speaker 1>opening round's not going your way, you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like walk back in And that stretch has

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<v Speaker 1>to be the best golf you played in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>that run on the Corn Fairy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think too, like like you said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you shoot like one under the first round on pretty

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<v Speaker 4>easy course in Utah, and it's like you can't put

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<v Speaker 4>too much emphasis on like how you're playing, Like sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you play good and you just kind of the scores

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<v Speaker 4>aren't there, and then it's like, you know, you come

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<v Speaker 4>out the next day, and that's a great part about

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<v Speaker 4>golf is you know you always got another chance the

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<v Speaker 4>next day and a ton of rounds out here. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's definitely good, but that mindset's definitely super important.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, tell us a little bit about the week at

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<v Speaker 3>the Black Dozer Championship, Like showed up at the course.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a course nobody had played before. I know, watching

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<v Speaker 3>it on TV, it was amazing. You know when did

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<v Speaker 3>you start feeling good? Was it in the practice rounds?

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<v Speaker 3>After the first round? Yeah, I mean about that week.

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<v Speaker 4>The place is just visually very cool, like to look

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<v Speaker 4>at kind of the course, Like I felt good that

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<v Speaker 4>it was like an even playing field. I think like

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of these events early in the year too,

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<v Speaker 4>is like a lot of these guys have been out here,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ten fifteen years and very comfortable with the

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<v Speaker 4>golf course. So kind of having that start of like

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<v Speaker 4>on a level playing field, and I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>honestly a little bit of advantage like growing up in

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<v Speaker 4>the desert kind of a lot of like weird blind

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<v Speaker 4>t shots. You know, if you hit it offline, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna find that golf ball. So very comfortable, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know environment in that aspect, but also like the

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<v Speaker 4>golf course itself, and then you know the weather is

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<v Speaker 4>a little you know, warm kind of you hit a

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<v Speaker 4>high one, the ball really goes. So growing up here,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in Phoenix was definitely like very similar and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and that part of Utah is great. Like me and

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<v Speaker 4>my girlfriend went on trip to Zion a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, so I'd been up there before with the

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<v Speaker 4>Red Rocks and loved it, and yeah, it was just

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<v Speaker 4>just a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much are vibes important to playing good golf?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you go to a place the week's going, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the girlfriend's there with you, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a vibes guy in general, Like are vibes massively

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<v Speaker 1>important for having a good week? Or can you show

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<v Speaker 1>up to place the golf where you don't love and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not it's not in your game? You can still

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<v Speaker 1>play that type of place?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean I think it's fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think when you're comfortable, like having fun off

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<v Speaker 4>the course that week is definitely a lot easier. I

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<v Speaker 4>think a place that my vibes were pretty low was

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<v Speaker 4>at Colorado for TBC Colorado for the corn Ferry Event.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd missed the cut there two years first two years

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<v Speaker 4>out and then this year, you know, I think set

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<v Speaker 4>their fifty four hole scoring record, had like a three

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<v Speaker 4>shot lead.

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<v Speaker 2>So early into the last round.

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<v Speaker 4>But like you know, when you kind of conquer a

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<v Speaker 4>place that you don't feel comfortable at too, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of gets it going as well, and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of gave me some confidence. Even though I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't win that week, definitely gave me a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>confidence kind of moving forward and the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean it's always fun, like when you're.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, being in San Diego is a lot better

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<v Speaker 4>than being in Springfield, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>So the vibes has been a lot better out here

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<v Speaker 2>onto it last.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's been the biggest change? I Mean, we ask

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<v Speaker 1>players they graduate from the Corn Ferry Tour to the

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<v Speaker 1>PJA Tour this a lot, like what's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out or what's the one thing that's been

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<v Speaker 1>mastly different? As you've kind of started twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a chance to play in some of

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<v Speaker 1>the really big boy events. Like what's the thing? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to be a big thing, but what's something

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out to you that's wow, this is way

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<v Speaker 1>different than what I've experienced a pro golfer at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, just playing against the guys that you

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<v Speaker 4>watch on TV is the biggest thing. Getting the courtesy

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<v Speaker 4>car straight out of the airport is like one of

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<v Speaker 4>the little things that I think that's the nicest, not having.

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<v Speaker 1>To drop it all, like what do you get it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's different every week, but it's just kind of there

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we're about a rental car, I don't if

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<v Speaker 1>we're about riding with other people, like my car is here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no more Avis lines is really nice.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh but yeah, I would say just like the

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<v Speaker 4>golf courses has been the biggest difference for sure. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean a little bit more demanding off the tee always.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been a little bit firmer out here for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>So like kind of puts a premium on ball striking.

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<v Speaker 4>But also I like, you know, you kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>to think your way around it a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>less like kind of point shoot, try to go absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>ballistic every week, which is nice, but definitely an adjustment

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, kind of a learning experience for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>At the Black Desert Championship, I'm curious to get your

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<v Speaker 3>take on this, but I read a stat it had

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<v Speaker 3>the highest fairway hip percentage but also the most provisionals

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<v Speaker 3>off the tea. Yeah, did you have to hit any

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<v Speaker 3>provisionals that week?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not. We did not find the desert.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, the only time I did find the desert was

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<v Speaker 4>with like a fifty degree from a bunker, just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of bladed it.

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<v Speaker 2>But nothing off the tee. So usually pretty accurate. Soay's

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<v Speaker 2>one of my strikes out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the fairways were wide, but it's a very

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<v Speaker 4>visually intimidating golf course and there's like four or five

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<v Speaker 4>out there that you really got to hit well or

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<v Speaker 4>else you're kind of in the lava and you know

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<v Speaker 4>you're never gonna find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like confidence wise, I mean again kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>following you throughout the season, like Corn Ferry Tour and

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing you, like when when when play well, even

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<v Speaker 1>when you weren't winning, you were having high finishes like

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the eighteenth hole on Sunday and the

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<v Speaker 1>way you were able to kind of close that thing out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a par five again. You know, if you spray it,

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<v Speaker 1>it can get you in trouble. I think you might

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<v Speaker 1>have had what a one or two shot maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>two shot lead at that point. Yeah, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>smoke a tea shot and then you hit that second

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<v Speaker 1>shot to what like ten feet fifteen feet for eagle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just to me, it like encapsulated your year. Is

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<v Speaker 1>my confidence in my game to be able to close

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<v Speaker 1>something out like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you got to kind of stay aggressive. You

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<v Speaker 4>get a little timid out there, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>try to play a little conservative, and then if that

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<v Speaker 4>shot that you're hitting conservative doesn't go well puts you

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<v Speaker 4>in more of a bad spot. You're better off kind

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<v Speaker 4>of just trying to get it as close as you

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<v Speaker 4>can and make the next one a little bit as easier.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was definitely my mindset.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you know, I could hit threw it off

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<v Speaker 4>this tea, but then I got, you know, another longer

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<v Speaker 4>iron in and it hit my driver. Well, so kind

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<v Speaker 4>of get as close as possible, and you know, being

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<v Speaker 4>able to be on that green in two and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>being able like four or five butt to win was

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<v Speaker 4>definitely very sure. I could let myself relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, you can actually smile on the walk up.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt, tell us a little bout what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>your bag? You still rolling the tyn Cee Center shafting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, not much has changed obviously, like the new

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<v Speaker 4>wood's coming out, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of been tinking around.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally figured it out, you know, how to week kind

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<v Speaker 4>of with the short offseason was kind of tough to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not playing a lot to kind of really

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<v Speaker 4>you know, trust something in the bag. But after this

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<v Speaker 4>last week, you know, being back in Phoenix and going

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<v Speaker 4>out to ping, you know Thursday, you know, the boys

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<v Speaker 4>got me dialed again and the new driver has been

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<v Speaker 4>great and spinning a little bit less, launched a little

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<v Speaker 4>higher for me, which is great, and you know, gained

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<v Speaker 4>some distance.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of speed.

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<v Speaker 4>So was the four lst Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 4>went I went down to the nine and then kind

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<v Speaker 4>of I like seeing loft, so went back up to

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<v Speaker 4>the ten to five, turned it down. It's at about

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<v Speaker 4>nine and a half added a little hot melt, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>got I didn't. I grew up a lefty kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just playing whatever. So I've been learning a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>about kind of tinkering around with some clubs. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the guys here are awesome and you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>get it, get you going and put you in that perfect,

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<v Speaker 4>perfect zone.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sw Yeah, being a lefty growing up and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>just use this.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is the club.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just make it sing. It's just so fun that now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even with four forty, it's like the four

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<v Speaker 1>wood and the seven would the nine, with like all

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<v Speaker 1>the options for a lefty golfer being the same as

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<v Speaker 1>a I mean, it definitely feels different thanhen we were

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<v Speaker 1>like teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of been a big thing for me, like

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<v Speaker 4>the last three or four years of just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>learning about the equipment and you can, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you kind of want to make the ball do something,

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<v Speaker 4>you can have that advantage, you know, just based on

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<v Speaker 4>the club that you're using.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been nice for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been able to have some fun, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you have this crazy twenty twenty four and then you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of run right into twenty twenty five. Like, have

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<v Speaker 1>you stepped away from the game at all and been

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<v Speaker 1>able to like enjoy it or go do anything or

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<v Speaker 1>has it mostly been chilling, relaxed and just preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and my girlfriend took a really nice trip for

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<v Speaker 4>like a week in Montana this winter, So that was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like you guys are like, you're like not beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're like going to the Zion National Park

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana, Like that's your.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So like you know, likes doing hikes and stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like that, and you know, we're going to Maui, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for New Year's so we figured we had the beach

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<v Speaker 4>covered and it was kind of cool to do something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. And you know, it's been a while since

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<v Speaker 4>I had, you know, been on a plane without the clubs,

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<v Speaker 4>which is always a nice feel.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like you're always like forgetting a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a sciar snowboarder.

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<v Speaker 2>Not anymore. I haven't been in a while. I'm too

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<v Speaker 2>afraid I'm gonna hurt myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart. Smart, you don't want to do that and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>like just waste a year because you have an AHBL

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<v Speaker 1>injury or something silly. The win, obviously, you get into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these major championships. So I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking ahead of twenty twenty five. I know Phoenix has

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<v Speaker 1>been big for you in terms of circling and just

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<v Speaker 1>because you grew up here and you've been out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix Open a whole bunch. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about that a little bit. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we inch closer to augusta like, is it on the brain?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think about it? Have you got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and play around at the golf

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<v Speaker 1>course yet?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been out yet. I've been thinking about it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about it last week and maybe in

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<v Speaker 4>another week if the weather kind of turns.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's snowed there like a week and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know if that's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>a good practice round the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're ready for me yet?

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<v Speaker 4>But uh no, I'm definitely circled on the calendar, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know with the US Open, the players and the

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<v Speaker 4>PGA as well, and you know, waste is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this environment I feel like is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna feel very similar to that outre as I will,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, those weeks so kind of good prep that week,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to kind of get those nerves going a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit and that excitement, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, definitely excited to go out there.

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<v Speaker 4>And kind of see it and you know, step on

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<v Speaker 4>the grounds out there would be very special for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your first Phoenix Open experience? Like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember how old you were whatever when you came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Press.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we moved here from Seattle, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>like ten or eleven, and I think I came out

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<v Speaker 4>here every year, so I was, you know, eleven twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd do like, you know, probably a little bit too

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<v Speaker 4>young at that point to do the standard baron, but

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<v Speaker 4>just following my dad around watching guys hit balls put

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Obviously kind of once I got a little older,

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<v Speaker 4>weaseled my way into sixteen in that atmosphere. So uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, growing up out here, I think that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a big part of like what I think about

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<v Speaker 4>golf and like that it's fun and it's nice when

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<v Speaker 4>you see the guys kind of like buy into that atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think this is one of the most well

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<v Speaker 4>run tournaments of the year and just kind of you

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<v Speaker 4>know how how much like the community here builds it

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<v Speaker 4>up and you know, the support.

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<v Speaker 2>For it obviously, but also like just the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like you're you know, just played, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>played the back nine out there today and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's how you got to feel like when

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<v Speaker 4>you're playing an NBA game or an NFL game or something,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>So but yeah, it's a lot of fun and just

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<v Speaker 4>like golf should be fun, and especially like when you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing it at a high level like this, to have

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<v Speaker 4>that many people out you know, watching your plays a

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<v Speaker 4>really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you did you do Standard Bear?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in a few years growing up. So my biggest

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<v Speaker 4>memories Ken Duke. I think he was just nice, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a lot of the guys locked in all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and I especially out here, you kind of got.

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<v Speaker 2>To put your blinders on a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean he was just like, you know, chopping

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<v Speaker 4>it up with us down the fairways and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember that He's just a great dude. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the goal for the week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for me, I did as a kid a few times,

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<v Speaker 3>and for me it was Calcri. Yeah, he was so

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<v Speaker 3>nice to us, you know, so I always remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Always remember both, right, I mean, because like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys like when I was a kid that were

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<v Speaker 1>really nice, and then I remember the guys that weren't

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<v Speaker 1>so nice. You know, like you kind of remember both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was definitely as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, it's cool, and like I mean, growing

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<v Speaker 4>up out here, I don't feel that far removed from

0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.119
<v Speaker 4>being a kid and wanting an autograph and getting a

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<v Speaker 4>ball from someone, So yeah, to kind of have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty surreal that you know, they want my stuff now,

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's definitely a very cool feeling for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>How about how the course plays, Like, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 3>obviously played it casually a bunch of times and then

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<v Speaker 3>here it is you're you played during the tournament. Things

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<v Speaker 3>are a little more spicy. What are the biggest differences

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<v Speaker 3>you're noticing? Course set up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a lot firmer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, played out here a lot in December and

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<v Speaker 4>you know they kind of protected a little bit, keep

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<v Speaker 4>it a little hair softer. Yeah, so it's definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have a little bit more spiciness to it this week

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. But yeah, it's kind of nice because I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a fairly long golf course, especially when it's soft,

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<v Speaker 4>so like if you're hitting in the fairways out here,

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<v Speaker 4>you can actually give yourself a lot more wedges and

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more kind of like scoring opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's firm like this, you know, part fives.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a little bit more manageable, but then at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time, those part threes get a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>intimidating when you're coming in with like a five six

0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.600
<v Speaker 4>iron and the greens are concrete.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll be a fun week.

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<v Speaker 1>I always so felt like the part threes here are

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot tougher than we give them credit for.

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<v Speaker 1>You you know, I mean you think about like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones on the back nine. I mean, it's not

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.479
<v Speaker 1>they're not cake holes. I mean obviously, I mean if

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<v Speaker 1>you were playing sixteen casually with some buddies and you're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting wedge and it's whatever, But the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's in that tournament environ, like you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA's level environment. I just feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the part of this golf course that can eat

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<v Speaker 1>you up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I mean, being very comfortable out here, like

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<v Speaker 4>just playing it a lot. It's definitely a lot different,

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, when the stands are up and people around

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I haven't played a tournament round yet,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's more people out here on a Tuesday today.

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<v Speaker 2>Than you said.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty people are cheering, you're on your second ball. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very fun. Yeah, first one in the water. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm assuming, and I mean again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this, you know, like Max Home, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean wins at Riviera and he talked about like that

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<v Speaker 1>was his tournament, you know, growing up. And I mean,

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I think golf fans, you know, somebody like me who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about golfers, we always think, oh, man, this person

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<v Speaker 1>wants to win the US Open, if this person wants

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<v Speaker 1>to win the Masters, Like, yeah, of course you want

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<v Speaker 1>to win that. But I feel like every golfer's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got that one tournament. It might not be the

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<v Speaker 1>one we think it is. That's close to their heart.

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 1>It might have been the one they went to when

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<v Speaker 1>they were a kid. And I mean I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine for you the moment you get that PGA Tour card.

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<v Speaker 1>You're circling Scott Stale like you know, when it is

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule and you know you're gonna get an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that was like, now you got to

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<v Speaker 4>finish number one on the corn for it to actually

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<v Speaker 4>get in this field.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was kind that was kind of like a

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.840
<v Speaker 2>big job on that big part of my goal for

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<v Speaker 2>the year.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, this is you know, outside of the majors,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the biggest tournament of the year for me, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I want to play well and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>show the home crowd something and prove that I can,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Play well out here. And uh yeah obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think too, like with the stands and you

0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 4>know kind of coming down the stretch out here, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're in contention, it's got to be the closest atmosphere

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 4>to like that major championship pressure just with all the

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<v Speaker 4>people and.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of everything going on.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think there's a lot of you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the past champions out here. Obviously it's like Scottie,

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.719
<v Speaker 4>but even like Brooks and like their success after they

0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of their breakthrough win was out here. I think

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of it is because of that. If you're

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of able to handle this environment, I think you

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 4>should be able to play in anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's kind of a cool aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>it as well. For sure, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Other events are you looking forward to? I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about Augusta. What other events are you Are

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<v Speaker 3>you allowing yourself to think about the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>year much or you're trying to stay a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more in the present, And if so, what other events

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<v Speaker 3>out there on the calendar do you have kind of

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<v Speaker 3>ear marked?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I think the players will be a

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.680
<v Speaker 4>really special week. I think for a lot of the guys,

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 4>just talking to them like that seems like it's just

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<v Speaker 4>an awesome week.

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I played Sagress. A lot of my girlfriend's family lives in.

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<v Speaker 4>Jacks, so, oh nice steel, pretty comfortable with that place,

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 4>a little bit pretty similar though. I always kind of

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 4>played it when it's very soft, so I think it's

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna be a different animal when it's firm and the

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 4>roughs up out there but yeah, I mean trying to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of keep it like one week at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this West Coast Swing I was very excited for.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean being at Tory two weeks ago was really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, grew up going out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched the US Open in UH eight when Tiger

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<v Speaker 4>won obviously, ye, so just kind of being at some

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 4>places that you've watched on TVs like very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Toy was a pretty pretty sweet week. And

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, this, you know, being home in Phoenix and

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<v Speaker 2>getting to play the waist is pretty pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it feels like, you know, you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what they've done now with the players, and I'd

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.439
<v Speaker 1>say the players and like the Ryder Cup are probably

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<v Speaker 1>the two events closest to this one. You know, in Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's raucous. There's people out there, they're

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>excited to be there. The crowds are big, like they

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<v Speaker 1>do an amazing job with that tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think when you prepare an alternate like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you were talking about in Phoenix, it's like when

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the event's that well done, it feels bigger even for

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<v Speaker 1>the players, not just for the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, yeah, and I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was playing with a good buddy, Mackmizer today and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he didn't play in this event last year,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, you know, we walked through sixteen and he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is crazy, you know, like, yeah, it's like on

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 4>a Tuesday, it's crazy being inside, but even when you're

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 4>sitting in the stands, it's not.

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Too so like, but yeah, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, like, you know, when you got like

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 4>big time like events like this, like you know, it

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.879
<v Speaker 4>shows kind of that. I don't think the tour is

0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 4>in the bat of a spot as you know, all

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff that's going around lately, but it shows that,

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<v Speaker 4>like when you put on like a really good event,

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 4>you get people excited about it, people are gonna care

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of the good players are going to

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<v Speaker 4>show up too.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's important for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, Phoenix. Just the involvement of the Junior Golf,

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, the standard bearers, you get the kids out,

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<v Speaker 3>the JJA is involved. Did you play JJA grown up

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<v Speaker 3>as a.

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<v Speaker 4>Kid, Yeah, yeah, JJ played all over the valley. I

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 4>actually I never really played stadium that much growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's too expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's like fifteen bucks for us to

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<v Speaker 4>play Champions in the afternoon. I grew up fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 4>from here, but I played that place like two hundred

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 4>and fifty times. I didn't really play out here till

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, getting status on corn Ferry and was able

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 4>to kind of you know, play and practice out here.

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 4>So that definitely felt like kind of like a special

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 4>thing for me too. So it's to be able to

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 4>play a vetting out here is definitely, you know, kind

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 4>of next step of that.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you've been in you've been in the area

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<v Speaker 1>of the last couple of weeks. Whence you get back

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>back from Tory.

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<v Speaker 2>You were back in Arizona, come back after Tory, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you have your checklist of like I've

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>got to go eat here, I've got to go to

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>this place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, hit basically all my favorite spots already. So

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, we're good.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been eating well all week and honestly, just you know,

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 4>being at home with my mom and kind of sleeping

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 4>in the bed I grew up in.

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<v Speaker 2>But having some home cooked meals is nice too after

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 2>being on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to be kind of surreal, Right, You're like,

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>this is the house, this is the bed. Now I'm

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.959
<v Speaker 1>playing in the golf tournament. You know, like all of

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>these kind of mixed emotions. I'm sure it's got to

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>be exciting, but it's also kind of got a feel

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>while I'm sure you have moments throughout the week where

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like, what the hell's going on here?

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, no, it is crazy and like, you know,

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 4>pulling into my house, like the courtesy cars definitely different feeling.

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Marty said he when he played at the Phoenix, somebody

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>said he was driving down his neighborhood and the courtesy car.

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's a weird feeling, but.

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm also used to it taking like fifteen minutes to

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 4>get here, so it's gonna be a real adjustment knowing

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be like an hour of this week, so.

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>It took me a couple of minutes to get into

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>parking to day.

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, Matt, I mean it's the progression of your

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 1>game has been incredible watch. It's felt rapid over the

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>last you know, eleven months or so, but it's been

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>so cool to watch and like you need more comfortable

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>in the moment and being able to like, you know,

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>flip right into that winning mentality on the PGA Tours. Incredible,

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>So good luck the rest of the way. Excited to

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>see in the Major's. Excited to see play a gust

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and the players and all that stuff and continue to

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 1>success because like I said, it's it's been awesome to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you very much for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's Mat McCarty. This is the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast.