1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot. 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 3: some fun stories about what goes on here to help 6 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 3: golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to the Pinging proven Grounds podcast. 8 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Shane Bake and Marty Jerts in a second appearance for 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: mister Mat McCarty. You're like a now a podcast regular. 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, happy to be back on. 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five. I know this season, I know maybe 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: you haven't played as good at golf as you play, 13 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: But I want to go back to twenty twenty four 14 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: for a bit, because you know, you have this breakout, 15 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: You're on the corn Ferry Tour, you flip to the 16 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, you win pretty much instantly. Have you had 17 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: time to like process twenty twenty four like and just 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: you do you have time like this winner to just 19 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: sit back and go like what I was able to do, 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: how I was able to play, Like if you had 21 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: any time to kind of think about. 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: It, Yeah, definitely. 23 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: I mean I think when you're kind of just going 24 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: like that, it just kind of everything happens and you're 25 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: just playing good golf and everything kind of snowballs on itself. 26 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, definitely to kind of you know, reminisce 27 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: a little bit, but also kind of think about like 28 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: what I'm doing well or what I was doing well, 29 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 4: like what I need to kind of keep doing, keep 30 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: improving and working on. And uh was a good off season. 31 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: A little shorter than I was used to, but that 32 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: was all all positive, So it's good. 33 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: What is like the definition of off season Like, yeah, it's. 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: Only in a few weeks. Yeah, yeah, this year, I 35 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: mean it flew by. 36 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: It seemed like it was just like it's six weeks, 37 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: but it flew by in a couple So yeah, it 38 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: was good. I mean a lot a lot of sitting 39 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: on the couch watching football after twenty nine events in 40 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: a year. 41 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it was fun. 42 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 4: Nice to you know, spend time with family and friends 43 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: and just kind of you know, not be bouncing around 44 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 4: city of city every week, is you know, kind of nice. 45 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, it's good. 46 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: What what what type of practicing training? What did you 47 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: kind of do during the off season here? 48 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of just kind of out, you know, 49 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: my body was kind of a little run down after 50 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: last season, so just trying to kind of recover a 51 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: little bit a little bit like strength training, get back 52 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: in the gym, lift some weights and but yeah, and 53 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: then just kind of give yourself some time to rest, 54 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: I think like mentally as well, just kind of turn 55 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: turn your prain off from golf a little bit. 56 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, Yeah, it was good, and I spend the holidays. 57 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: And you know, excited to kind of you know, get 58 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: going out here too and be right back in it. 59 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: We were talking before you got going about you shooting 60 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: fifty nine. You said your fourth professional tournament, Is that 61 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: what you said? Or fourth professional round is that right? 62 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: Like turn Yeah, fourth professional tournament in the Wyoming stayed open. 63 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said, you know, one of the hardest 64 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: things we've talked a lot about. It is a cliche 65 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: and professional golfs like the round after and you're like, 66 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, you go out there and you shoot even 67 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm assuming in a way you start twenty twenty five, 68 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: you have this incredible twenty twenty four and it's like 69 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: back to the grind, you know. You hear players talk 70 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: about the first one on the PGA Tour and then 71 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: Thursday comes around and it's you know, you're even again, right, 72 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: You're like tied with everybody else. Has it been difficult 73 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: to kind of jump start twenty twenty five after what 74 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: happened last season or have you been energized to get 75 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: the year going now? 76 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I think got kicked in the teeth a 77 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: little bit early at Centric. I mean, shooting like six 78 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: under Friday, I think, and I played okay, and you 79 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: just get. 80 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: A lapped by that entire field. 81 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, No, it's been good, and I think 82 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: it's definitely different out here. You know, the courses are 83 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: a little bit more challenging. Obviously, the caliber of other 84 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: players is higher. 85 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're a little off out here and you 86 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: kind of can get exposed a little bit. 87 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: But you know, it's exciting and dream come true to 88 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: be out here, and especially like growing up in Phoenix 89 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: and starting on the West Coast swing, like very comfortable, 90 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: kind of getting some events in California, went to college 91 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: there and haven't really played you know, tournaments there in 92 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: the last three years. So it's been been a lot 93 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: of fun to kind of be background home and background 94 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: a lot of like friends and family. 95 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: Two, it has been good. 96 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: You've I think shooting fifty nine, you got the capability 97 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: of going low. How does that like? And then you're 98 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: talking about century where the scores are really really low, obviously, 99 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: talk about that mindset of like continue to make birdies. 100 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean when you won last fall, what you were 101 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: twenty four under, twenty three I think twenty three under. 102 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: So like, just what's it like to kind of be 103 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: in those tournaments where you have to keep making birdies, 104 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: keep making birdies, shoot six seven unders a day? 105 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you kind of just got to keep 106 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: looking at the pin and just visualize seeing it go close, 107 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: but really like not really kind of think about where 108 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: you're at and literally like each hole is kind of 109 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: its own thing, and you know, once you get to 110 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: like five six seven under, I think that's the thing 111 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: that you learn a lot, or at least I learned 112 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: a lot on the corn Ferry Tour. I mean, you know, 113 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: you shoot three four under out there and you're kind 114 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: of getting laps. You kind of got to learn how 115 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: to shoot you know, six seven eight nine hunderbar a 116 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 4: lot of times, and you know it's very important to 117 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: kind of just keep the pedal down when you're out 118 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: there and on a good day and then days when 119 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: you're kind off just kind of figure out how to 120 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: scrape something around out there. 121 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: What do you think when you look back on twenty 122 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty four, the run you had on the corn Ferry Tour, 123 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: you win the three times, and then you went on 124 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, when you took some time to kind 125 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: of think back to the season, how I played all 126 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: the good stuff? What do you think you did the best? Like, 127 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: what was the part of your game mentally, physically, whatever 128 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: the case may be that you feel like took you 129 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: to that place. 130 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think more than anything, and a lot of 131 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: what I've been talking about with like a lot of 132 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: people on my team the last few weeks is just 133 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: just I was just playing golf, like very simil put 134 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: but not like you know, thinking about golf swing, not 135 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: thinking about like my stroke putting, but just kind of 136 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: trying to visualize each shot, commit and just kind of 137 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: hit it as close as you can, try. 138 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: To make the ball in the hole as quickly as possible. 139 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: But I mean, just that joy that comes with that 140 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: of just playing the game, and just playing golf in 141 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: general I think is super important for me. But also 142 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: like to have success and just kind of that freedom 143 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: that comes with that is uh usually the best thing 144 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: for me. 145 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 146 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: I mean, like Marty, we had this window. You know, 147 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: we're do the Corn Ferry Tour, you know, on TV, 148 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: and I remember mad I think he won a couple 149 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: of times at this point. Maybe we're like in Utah 150 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: or something, and we have him in the window, and 151 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: I was pumped because, like, you've been played so well, 152 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I've known Mat for a while and 153 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: you played okay in the opening round. You might have 154 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: shot like one under and like all right, you know, 155 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's fine. You know, he's having a good 156 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: season whatever. Like the next day you shot like ten under, 157 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I he is having fun. Like 158 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: this is really fun right now. When you're able to 159 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: even when the round's not going your way or the 160 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: opening round's not going your way, you were able to 161 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of like walk back in And that stretch has 162 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: to be the best golf you played in your life, 163 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: that run on the Corn Fairy. 164 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think too, like like you said, I mean, 165 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: you shoot like one under the first round on pretty 166 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: easy course in Utah, and it's like you can't put 167 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: too much emphasis on like how you're playing, Like sometimes 168 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: you play good and you just kind of the scores 169 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: aren't there, and then it's like, you know, you come 170 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: out the next day, and that's a great part about 171 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: golf is you know you always got another chance the 172 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: next day and a ton of rounds out here. So yeah, 173 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: it's definitely good, but that mindset's definitely super important. 174 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Now, tell us a little bit about the week at 175 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: the Black Dozer Championship, Like showed up at the course. 176 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: It's a course nobody had played before. I know, watching 177 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: it on TV, it was amazing. You know when did 178 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: you start feeling good? Was it in the practice rounds? 179 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: After the first round? Yeah, I mean about that week. 180 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: The place is just visually very cool, like to look 181 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: at kind of the course, Like I felt good that 182 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: it was like an even playing field. I think like 183 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: a lot of these events early in the year too, 184 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: is like a lot of these guys have been out here, 185 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, ten fifteen years and very comfortable with the 186 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: golf course. So kind of having that start of like 187 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 4: on a level playing field, and I felt like I 188 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: honestly a little bit of advantage like growing up in 189 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: the desert kind of a lot of like weird blind 190 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: t shots. You know, if you hit it offline, you're 191 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: not gonna find that golf ball. So very comfortable, like 192 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: you know environment in that aspect, but also like the 193 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: golf course itself, and then you know the weather is 194 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: a little you know, warm kind of you hit a 195 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: high one, the ball really goes. So growing up here, 196 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: you know, in Phoenix was definitely like very similar and yeah, 197 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: and that part of Utah is great. Like me and 198 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: my girlfriend went on trip to Zion a couple of 199 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: years ago, so I'd been up there before with the 200 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: Red Rocks and loved it, and yeah, it was just 201 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: just a lot of fun. 202 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how much are vibes important to playing good golf? 203 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: Like you go to a place the week's going, well, 204 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: maybe the girlfriend's there with you, Like I feel like 205 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: you're a vibes guy in general, Like are vibes massively 206 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: important for having a good week? Or can you show 207 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: up to place the golf where you don't love and 208 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: you're not it's not in your game? You can still 209 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: play that type of place? 210 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I think it's fifty to fifty. 211 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: Like I think when you're comfortable, like having fun off 212 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: the course that week is definitely a lot easier. I 213 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: think a place that my vibes were pretty low was 214 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: at Colorado for TBC Colorado for the corn Ferry Event. 215 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: I'd missed the cut there two years first two years 216 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: out and then this year, you know, I think set 217 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: their fifty four hole scoring record, had like a three 218 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: shot lead. 219 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: So early into the last round. 220 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: But like you know, when you kind of conquer a 221 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: place that you don't feel comfortable at too, that's you know, 222 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: kind of gets it going as well, and kind of 223 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: that kind of gave me some confidence. Even though I 224 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: didn't win that week, definitely gave me a lot of 225 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: confidence kind of moving forward and the rest of the season. 226 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's always fun, like when you're. 227 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: You know, being in San Diego is a lot better 228 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: than being in Springfield, Illinois. 229 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: So the vibes has been a lot better out here 230 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: onto it last. 231 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: But what's been the biggest change? I Mean, we ask 232 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: players they graduate from the Corn Ferry Tour to the 233 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: PJA Tour this a lot, like what's the one thing 234 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: that stood out or what's the one thing that's been 235 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: mastly different? As you've kind of started twenty twenty five, 236 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: and you've got a chance to play in some of 237 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: the really big boy events. Like what's the thing? Doesn't 238 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be a big thing, but what's something 239 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: that stood out to you that's wow, this is way 240 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: different than what I've experienced a pro golfer at this point. 241 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 242 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, just playing against the guys that you 243 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: watch on TV is the biggest thing. Getting the courtesy 244 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 4: car straight out of the airport is like one of 245 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: the little things that I think that's the nicest, not having. 246 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: To drop it all, like what do you get it? 247 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: It's different every week, but it's just kind of there 248 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: about it. 249 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: But if we're about a rental car, I don't if 250 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: we're about riding with other people, like my car is here? 251 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no more Avis lines is really nice. 252 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: But uh but yeah, I would say just like the 253 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: golf courses has been the biggest difference for sure. I 254 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: mean a little bit more demanding off the tee always. 255 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: They've been a little bit firmer out here for sure, 256 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: So like kind of puts a premium on ball striking. 257 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: But also I like, you know, you kind of got 258 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: to think your way around it a little bit more 259 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: less like kind of point shoot, try to go absolutely 260 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: ballistic every week, which is nice, but definitely an adjustment 261 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of a learning experience for sure. 262 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: At the Black Desert Championship, I'm curious to get your 263 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: take on this, but I read a stat it had 264 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: the highest fairway hip percentage but also the most provisionals 265 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: off the tea. Yeah, did you have to hit any 266 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: provisionals that week? 267 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: I did not. We did not find the desert. 268 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: Actually, the only time I did find the desert was 269 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: with like a fifty degree from a bunker, just kind 270 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: of bladed it. 271 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: But nothing off the tee. So usually pretty accurate. Soay's 272 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: one of my strikes out there. 273 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, the fairways were wide, but it's a very 274 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: visually intimidating golf course and there's like four or five 275 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 4: out there that you really got to hit well or 276 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: else you're kind of in the lava and you know 277 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: you're never gonna find it. 278 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Like like confidence wise, I mean again kind of like 279 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: following you throughout the season, like Corn Ferry Tour and 280 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: just seeing you, like when when when play well, even 281 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: when you weren't winning, you were having high finishes like 282 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: I go to the eighteenth hole on Sunday and the 283 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: way you were able to kind of close that thing out. 284 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: It's a par five again. You know, if you spray it, 285 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: it can get you in trouble. I think you might 286 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: have had what a one or two shot maybe a 287 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: two shot lead at that point. Yeah, and it's like 288 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: smoke a tea shot and then you hit that second 289 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: shot to what like ten feet fifteen feet for eagle. 290 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: It's just to me, it like encapsulated your year. Is 291 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: my confidence in my game to be able to close 292 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: something out like that? 293 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's a big part of it. 294 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: I mean you got to kind of stay aggressive. You 295 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: get a little timid out there, and you know, you 296 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: try to play a little conservative, and then if that 297 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: shot that you're hitting conservative doesn't go well puts you 298 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: in more of a bad spot. You're better off kind 299 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: of just trying to get it as close as you 300 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: can and make the next one a little bit as easier. 301 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: But that was definitely my mindset. 302 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I could hit threw it off 303 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: this tea, but then I got, you know, another longer 304 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: iron in and it hit my driver. Well, so kind 305 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: of get as close as possible, and you know, being 306 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: able to be on that green in two and you know, 307 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: being able like four or five butt to win was 308 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 4: definitely very sure. I could let myself relaxed. 309 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you can actually smile on the walk up. 310 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: Matt, tell us a little bout what's going on in 311 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: your bag? You still rolling the tyn Cee Center shafting. 312 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not much has changed obviously, like the new 313 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: wood's coming out, so. 314 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Kind of been tinking around. 315 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: Finally figured it out, you know, how to week kind 316 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: of with the short offseason was kind of tough to 317 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: you know, not playing a lot to kind of really 318 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, trust something in the bag. But after this 319 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: last week, you know, being back in Phoenix and going 320 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: out to ping, you know Thursday, you know, the boys 321 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: got me dialed again and the new driver has been 322 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: great and spinning a little bit less, launched a little 323 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: higher for me, which is great, and you know, gained 324 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: some distance. 325 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: A little bit of speed. 326 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: So was the four lst Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I 327 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: went I went down to the nine and then kind 328 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: of I like seeing loft, so went back up to 329 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: the ten to five, turned it down. It's at about 330 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: nine and a half added a little hot melt, you know, 331 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: got I didn't. I grew up a lefty kind of 332 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: just playing whatever. So I've been learning a little bit 333 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: about kind of tinkering around with some clubs. But uh yeah, 334 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: the guys here are awesome and you know, kind of 335 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: get it, get you going and put you in that perfect, 336 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: perfect zone. 337 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: So it's been good. 338 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Sw Yeah, being a lefty growing up and you're like, 339 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: just use this. 340 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: I guess this is the club. 341 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to use it. 342 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I'll just make it sing. It's just so fun that now. 343 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: I mean even with four forty, it's like the four 344 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: wood and the seven would the nine, with like all 345 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: the options for a lefty golfer being the same as 346 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: a I mean, it definitely feels different thanhen we were 347 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: like teenagers. 348 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 349 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: That's kind of been a big thing for me, like 350 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: the last three or four years of just kind of 351 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: learning about the equipment and you can, you know, if 352 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: you kind of want to make the ball do something, 353 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: you can have that advantage, you know, just based on 354 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: the club that you're using. 355 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: So it's been nice for sure. 356 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: Have you been able to have some fun, like I mean, 357 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: you have this crazy twenty twenty four and then you 358 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: kind of run right into twenty twenty five. Like, have 359 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: you stepped away from the game at all and been 360 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: able to like enjoy it or go do anything or 361 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: has it mostly been chilling, relaxed and just preparing for 362 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the season. 363 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of both. 364 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend took a really nice trip for 365 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: like a week in Montana this winter, So that was nice. 366 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Just like you guys are like, you're like not beach. 367 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean you're like going to the Zion National Park 368 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: in Montana, Like that's your. 369 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So like you know, likes doing hikes and stuff 370 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: like that, and you know, we're going to Maui, you know, 371 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: for New Year's so we figured we had the beach 372 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: covered and it was kind of cool to do something 373 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: like that. And you know, it's been a while since 374 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: I had, you know, been on a plane without the clubs, 375 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: which is always a nice feel. 376 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: It feels like you're always like forgetting a bunch of stuff. 377 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: But it was nice. 378 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: You got a sciar snowboarder. 379 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: Not anymore. I haven't been in a while. I'm too 380 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: afraid I'm gonna hurt myself. 381 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: Smart. Smart, you don't want to do that and you'll 382 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: like just waste a year because you have an AHBL 383 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: injury or something silly. The win, obviously, you get into 384 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: a lot of these major championships. So I mean you're 385 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: looking ahead of twenty twenty five. I know Phoenix has 386 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: been big for you in terms of circling and just 387 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: because you grew up here and you've been out to 388 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: the Phoenix Open a whole bunch. So I want to 389 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: talk to you about that a little bit. But as 390 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: we inch closer to augusta like, is it on the brain? 391 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: Do you think about it? Have you got a chance 392 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: to go out there and play around at the golf 393 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: course yet? 394 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: I haven't been out yet. I've been thinking about it 395 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: kind of. 396 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: I was thinking about it last week and maybe in 397 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: another week if the weather kind of turns. 398 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: But I think it's snowed there like a week and 399 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: a half ago. 400 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if that's probably not 401 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a good practice round the show. 402 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: You're ready for me yet? 403 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: But uh no, I'm definitely circled on the calendar, and 404 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: you know with the US Open, the players and the 405 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: PGA as well, and you know, waste is kind of 406 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, this environment I feel like is you know, 407 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna feel very similar to that outre as I will, 408 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, those weeks so kind of good prep that week, 409 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: you know, to kind of get those nerves going a 410 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: little bit and that excitement, you know. 411 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely excited to go out there. 412 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: And kind of see it and you know, step on 413 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: the grounds out there would be very special for sure. 414 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: What was your first Phoenix Open experience? Like, do you 415 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: remember how old you were whatever when you came up 416 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: with the Press. 417 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: I mean we moved here from Seattle, and I was 418 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: like ten or eleven, and I think I came out 419 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: here every year, so I was, you know, eleven twelve. 420 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: We'd do like, you know, probably a little bit too 421 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: young at that point to do the standard baron, but 422 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: just following my dad around watching guys hit balls put 423 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: you know. Obviously kind of once I got a little older, 424 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: weaseled my way into sixteen in that atmosphere. So uh yeah, 425 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: I mean, growing up out here, I think that's kind 426 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: of a big part of like what I think about 427 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: golf and like that it's fun and it's nice when 428 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,239 Speaker 4: you see the guys kind of like buy into that atmosphere, 429 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: and I think this is one of the most well 430 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: run tournaments of the year and just kind of you 431 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: know how how much like the community here builds it 432 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: up and you know, the support. 433 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: For it obviously, but also like just the atmosphere. 434 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: It feels like you're you know, just played, you know, 435 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: played the back nine out there today and. 436 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: You know sixteen. 437 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: I mean that's how you got to feel like when 438 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: you're playing an NBA game or an NFL game or something, 439 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: it's just insane. 440 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: It's a different feeling. 441 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: So but yeah, it's a lot of fun and just 442 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: like golf should be fun, and especially like when you're 443 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: doing it at a high level like this, to have 444 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: that many people out you know, watching your plays a 445 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: really cool thing. 446 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: For sure. 447 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Were you did you do Standard Bear? 448 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, in a few years growing up. So my biggest 449 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: memories Ken Duke. I think he was just nice, Like, 450 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the guys locked in all 451 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: the time, and I especially out here, you kind of got. 452 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: To put your blinders on a little bit. 453 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: But I mean he was just like, you know, chopping 454 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: it up with us down the fairways and stuff. 455 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: So I remember that He's just a great dude. So yeah, yeah, 456 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: that's the goal for the week. 457 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I did as a kid a few times, 458 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: and for me it was Calcri. Yeah, he was so 459 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: nice to us, you know, so I always remember that. 460 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, you. 461 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Always remember both, right, I mean, because like I know, 462 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: the guys like when I was a kid that were 463 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: really nice, and then I remember the guys that weren't 464 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: so nice. You know, like you kind of remember both ways. 465 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: But it was definitely as well. 466 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, no, it's cool, and like I mean, growing 467 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: up out here, I don't feel that far removed from 468 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: being a kid and wanting an autograph and getting a 469 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: ball from someone, So yeah, to kind of have you know, 470 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: it's pretty surreal that you know, they want my stuff now, 471 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: But I mean. 472 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: It's it's it's definitely a very cool feeling for sure. 473 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: How about how the course plays, Like, you know, you've 474 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: obviously played it casually a bunch of times and then 475 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: here it is you're you played during the tournament. Things 476 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: are a little more spicy. What are the biggest differences 477 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: you're noticing? Course set up? 478 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a lot firmer. 479 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: You know, played out here a lot in December and 480 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 4: you know they kind of protected a little bit, keep 481 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: it a little hair softer. Yeah, so it's definitely gonna 482 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: have a little bit more spiciness to it this week 483 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: for sure. But yeah, it's kind of nice because I 484 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: think it's a fairly long golf course, especially when it's soft, 485 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 4: so like if you're hitting in the fairways out here, 486 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: you can actually give yourself a lot more wedges and 487 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: a little bit more kind of like scoring opportunities. 488 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: When it's firm like this, you know, part fives. 489 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: Get a little bit more manageable, but then at the 490 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: same time, those part threes get a little bit more 491 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: intimidating when you're coming in with like a five six 492 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: iron and the greens are concrete. 493 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: So it'll be a fun week. 494 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: I always so felt like the part threes here are 495 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: like a lot tougher than we give them credit for. 496 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: You you know, I mean you think about like I mean, 497 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: the ones on the back nine. I mean, it's not 498 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: they're not cake holes. I mean obviously, I mean if 499 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: you were playing sixteen casually with some buddies and you're 500 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: hitting wedge and it's whatever, But the fact that you 501 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: know it's in that tournament environ, like you said, the 502 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: NBA's level environment. I just feel like I feel like 503 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: that's the part of this golf course that can eat 504 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: you up a little bit. 505 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. 506 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: And like I mean, being very comfortable out here, like 507 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: just playing it a lot. It's definitely a lot different, 508 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: you know, when the stands are up and people around 509 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 4: and you know, I haven't played a tournament round yet, 510 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: but there's more people out here on a Tuesday today. 511 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: Than you said. 512 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Fifty people are cheering, you're on your second ball. You're like, 513 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: thank you very much. 514 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: That's very fun. Yeah, first one in the water. But yeah, 515 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 516 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming, and I mean again, you know, 517 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: we've talked about this, you know, like Max Home, I 518 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: mean wins at Riviera and he talked about like that 519 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: was his tournament, you know, growing up. And I mean, 520 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: I think golf fans, you know, somebody like me who 521 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: thinks about golfers, we always think, oh, man, this person 522 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: wants to win the US Open, if this person wants 523 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: to win the Masters, Like, yeah, of course you want 524 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: to win that. But I feel like every golfer's kind 525 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: of got that one tournament. It might not be the 526 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: one we think it is. That's close to their heart. 527 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: It might have been the one they went to when 528 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: they were a kid. And I mean I can only 529 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: imagine for you the moment you get that PGA Tour card. 530 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: You're circling Scott Stale like you know, when it is 531 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: on the schedule and you know you're gonna get an 532 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to play. 533 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was like, now you got to 534 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: finish number one on the corn for it to actually 535 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: get in this field. 536 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: So that was kind that was kind of like a 537 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: big job on that big part of my goal for 538 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: the year. 539 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, this is you know, outside of the majors, 540 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: this is the biggest tournament of the year for me, Like, 541 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 4: you know, I want to play well and you know, 542 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: show the home crowd something and prove that I can, 543 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: you know. 544 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: Play well out here. And uh yeah obviously. 545 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: And I think too, like with the stands and you 546 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: know kind of coming down the stretch out here, if 547 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: you're in contention, it's got to be the closest atmosphere 548 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: to like that major championship pressure just with all the 549 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: people and. 550 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: Kind of everything going on. 551 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of you know, a 552 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: lot of the past champions out here. Obviously it's like Scottie, 553 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 4: but even like Brooks and like their success after they 554 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: kind of their breakthrough win was out here. I think 555 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: a lot of it is because of that. If you're 556 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: kind of able to handle this environment, I think you 557 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: should be able to play in anything. 558 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of a cool aspect of 559 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: it as well. For sure, what. 560 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: Other events are you looking forward to? I mean, obviously 561 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: we talked about Augusta. What other events are you Are 562 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: you allowing yourself to think about the rest of the 563 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: year much or you're trying to stay a little bit 564 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: more in the present, And if so, what other events 565 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: out there on the calendar do you have kind of 566 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: ear marked? 567 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think the players will be a 568 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 4: really special week. I think for a lot of the guys, 569 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: just talking to them like that seems like it's just 570 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: an awesome week. 571 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: I played Sagress. A lot of my girlfriend's family lives in. 572 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: Jacks, so, oh nice steel, pretty comfortable with that place, 573 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: a little bit pretty similar though. I always kind of 574 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: played it when it's very soft, so I think it's 575 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: gonna be a different animal when it's firm and the 576 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: roughs up out there but yeah, I mean trying to 577 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: kind of keep it like one week at a time. 578 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 4: I think this West Coast Swing I was very excited for. 579 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean being at Tory two weeks ago was really cool, 580 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Like you know, grew up going out there. 581 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: I watched the US Open in UH eight when Tiger 582 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: won obviously, ye, so just kind of being at some 583 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: places that you've watched on TVs like very cool. 584 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, Toy was a pretty pretty sweet week. And 585 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: but yeah, this, you know, being home in Phoenix and 586 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: getting to play the waist is pretty pretty awesome. 587 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it feels like, you know, you think 588 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: about what they've done now with the players, and I'd 589 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: say the players and like the Ryder Cup are probably 590 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: the two events closest to this one. You know, in Phoenix, 591 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's raucous. There's people out there, they're 592 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: excited to be there. The crowds are big, like they 593 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: do an amazing job with that tournament. 594 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: You know. 595 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: It's I think when you prepare an alternate like that, 596 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: like you were talking about in Phoenix, it's like when 597 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: the event's that well done, it feels bigger even for 598 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the players, not just for the fans. 599 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, and I was. 600 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: I was playing with a good buddy, Mackmizer today and 601 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, he didn't play in this event last year, 602 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: but like, you know, we walked through sixteen and he's like, 603 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: this is crazy, you know, like, yeah, it's like on 604 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: a Tuesday, it's crazy being inside, but even when you're 605 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: sitting in the stands, it's not. 606 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: Too so like, but yeah, it's cool. 607 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: And I think, like, you know, when you got like 608 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: big time like events like this, like you know, it 609 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: shows kind of that. I don't think the tour is 610 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: in the bat of a spot as you know, all 611 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: this stuff that's going around lately, but it shows that, 612 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: like when you put on like a really good event, 613 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: you get people excited about it, people are gonna care 614 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: and a lot of the good players are going to 615 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: show up too. 616 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: So I think that's important for sure. 617 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: I like it, Phoenix. Just the involvement of the Junior Golf, 618 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, the standard bearers, you get the kids out, 619 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: the JJA is involved. Did you play JJA grown up 620 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: as a. 621 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: Kid, Yeah, yeah, JJ played all over the valley. I 622 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: actually I never really played stadium that much growing up. 623 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean it's too expensive. 624 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's like fifteen bucks for us to 625 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: play Champions in the afternoon. I grew up fifteen minutes 626 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: from here, but I played that place like two hundred 627 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: and fifty times. I didn't really play out here till 628 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: you know, getting status on corn Ferry and was able 629 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: to kind of you know, play and practice out here. 630 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: So that definitely felt like kind of like a special 631 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: thing for me too. So it's to be able to 632 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 4: play a vetting out here is definitely, you know, kind 633 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: of next step of that. 634 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: For sure. 635 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: You said you've been in you've been in the area 636 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: of the last couple of weeks. Whence you get back 637 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: back from Tory. 638 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: You were back in Arizona, come back after Tory, and 639 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: you know. 640 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Do you do you have your checklist of like I've 641 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: got to go eat here, I've got to go to 642 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: this place. 643 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hit basically all my favorite spots already. So 644 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: uh yeah, we're good. 645 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: I've been eating well all week and honestly, just you know, 646 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: being at home with my mom and kind of sleeping 647 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: in the bed I grew up in. 648 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: But having some home cooked meals is nice too after 649 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: being on the road. 650 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: That's got to be kind of surreal, Right, You're like, 651 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: this is the house, this is the bed. Now I'm 652 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: playing in the golf tournament. You know, like all of 653 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: these kind of mixed emotions. I'm sure it's got to 654 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: be exciting, but it's also kind of got a feel 655 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: while I'm sure you have moments throughout the week where 656 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, what the hell's going on here? 657 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: You know? 658 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it is crazy and like, you know, 659 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: pulling into my house, like the courtesy cars definitely different feeling. 660 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: Marty said he when he played at the Phoenix, somebody 661 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: said he was driving down his neighborhood and the courtesy car. 662 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a weird feeling, but. 663 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 664 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: I'm also used to it taking like fifteen minutes to 665 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: get here, so it's gonna be a real adjustment knowing 666 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: it's gonna be like an hour of this week, so. 667 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: It took me a couple of minutes to get into 668 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: parking to day. 669 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 670 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, well, Matt, I mean it's the progression of your 671 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: game has been incredible watch. It's felt rapid over the 672 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: last you know, eleven months or so, but it's been 673 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: so cool to watch and like you need more comfortable 674 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: in the moment and being able to like, you know, 675 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: flip right into that winning mentality on the PGA Tours. Incredible, 676 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: So good luck the rest of the way. Excited to 677 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: see in the Major's. Excited to see play a gust 678 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and the players and all that stuff and continue to 679 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: success because like I said, it's it's been awesome to see. 680 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much for the year. 681 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Mat McCarty. 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