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Speaker 1: me take you back back, back back to the summer

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You like it?

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Speaker 1: You want me now, let's take a minute, because I

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Speaker 1: think when you start on something new, you're always a

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Speaker 1: I love music and I love pop culture, and in

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Speaker 1: I feel so inspired every time I listen to these episodes.

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Speaker 5: I'm your host, Liliana Ooscuez.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is becoming an icon.

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Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 1: At this point, we've been working on this podcast for

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Speaker 4: Like there's a little bit of everything on there.

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Speaker 5: That's actually a brilliant answer.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Gloria is Santa Glodia, like she.

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Speaker 5: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Who is it? Because I know because Mark,

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Speaker 1: His We're always so our icons have definitely been represented well,

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Speaker 4: bringing in that new era of artists, and it's kind

442
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: of like trickling down, Like if you like a Bad Bunny,

443
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 4: you'll find artists who you'll like as well through that.

444
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: I love it, and he's also so supportive. I think

445
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the things.

446
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: That makes him sure, very inclusive.

447
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: So inclusive, he's always passing the torch, and he's always

448
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 1: wanting to talk about who's coming next. And he's not afraid,

449
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: like he comes from abundance, not from scarcity. We've talked

450
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: about that a lot, right with musicians. I think in

451
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, if you were a Latin X

452
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: or Latin musician, you were like, oh wait, there's only

453
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,239
Speaker 1: the space for one Latino artist. There can only be

454
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: one female and one male. So you were so competitive, right,

455
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: you weren't willing to bring people up with you. Now

456
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny, I think is so secure in who he

457
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: is as an artist and so secure in the power

458
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: of Latin music that he's like, let me bring everybody.

459
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: Everybody win me, right if we.

460
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: Win as a gold Buddha, like everybody, everybody wins. And

461
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: we're going to get to that a little bit talking

462
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: about the future of lat music. So I know you

463
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: guys recently just published Meat Music's Future twenty five, which

464
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: of course features Peso.

465
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: We'll get to that individus so good, so good, but before.

466
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: We do that, I do want to talk about Bad

467
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 1: Bunny's new album Nadia Samayana. Have you heard it?

468
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: I have not heard it.

469
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: See I thought you had some tea, because I figure

470
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: everyone at Rolling Stone got some kind of advanced teezer.

471
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: What do you think it's going to be? Do you

472
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: think it is a return to sound cloud Bad Bunny?

473
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: Because if you saw the teaser on his Instagram, he

474
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: has a shaved head. It's very akin to the look

475
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: that he had when he first started. So people are

476
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: saying this is him going back to his roots, which

477
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that he ever left his roots, and

478
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: he got experimental with it, but I think he's always

479
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: been at the core.

480
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: Of it.

481
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, Thomas, Do you think we're

482
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: going to get something old or something new from him?

483
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: I think we're going to get references to the past.

484
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 4: I think that with somebody like bad Bunny, he's going

485
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: through this very pivotal moment in terms of like his

486
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: space in the culture, in terms of his relationship and

487
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 4: how he's viewed in general by latinos, and by shaving

488
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: his head, he's like, I'm still the same bee. Oh

489
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: I can say, bitch right, I'm still the same bitch

490
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: I was when I started, you know, But I do

491
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: think that it'll be Bad Bunny tapping into like that

492
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: original essence that we've always had, but maybe elevating it

493
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: a little bit more. I think there's a lot of

494
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: expectation with this album because he's been consistently delivering, you know,

495
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 4: and I think it'll be very exciting to see what

496
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 4: this means for his career and for his music.

497
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Curveball, don't what are you gonna do?

498
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: What do you think of Kendall and Bad Bunny?

499
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: How dare you?

500
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: Mommy?

501
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 5: Mommy be goodful?

502
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: What do we think? Is it real or is this

503
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: a Chris Jenner masterful exercise in public relations?

504
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: This is a really difficult question you're putting on the spot.

505
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: I think there are elements of reality. I think it's

506
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 4: a real relationship. I think that I sometimes question what

507
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 4: they talk about at the dinner table and how they

508
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 4: relate to each other besides their wealth. But also, this

509
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 4: is super random. I had dinner at this restaurant and

510
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 4: our waiter said that the waiter was serving Bad Bunny

511
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: and Kendall. This is very third person story, sure, and

512
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 4: that they had good chemistry at the table. So if

513
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: we're trusting them with real like period, it's real.

514
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: But also I'm gonna say Bad Bunny is also like

515
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: a nice person and a gentleman, and you know what

516
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: I mean, So what's not to like just because also

517
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: it's something so out of her own.

518
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: Honey, I'm not questioning that she I'm not questioning.

519
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: I think that he's also just kind of like, this

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: is Kendall Jenner. Like whatever we think about her, you know,

521
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: this is still Kendall Jenner, like one of the biggest

522
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: models in the world, related to the most famous family

523
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: in the world.

524
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: But do you even think that would be a track. Mean,

525
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest stars but in the world.

526
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: Beautiful and a model, like a real working one.

527
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: That's so that to me, I get the physical attraction.

528
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: I think that they're a beautiful couple, like I like,

529
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: they're gorgeous. Like to me, it would be like fireworks.

530
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: I just further with THEMA said, how do they communicate? Sure,

531
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: what's the nature of the conversation? What are we talking about?

532
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, is she taking Spanish lessons?

533
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 5: Do a lingo?

534
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: Baby?

535
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: It's an app sponsor us do a lingo? We could

536
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: talk about Bad Bunny again all day. So I'm gonna stop,

537
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk a little bit about

538
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones Meet Musics Feature twenty five. So Domas who

539
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: on this list is a standout to you in the

540
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: Latin music space for sure?

541
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: This this is really interesting because Bad Bunny actually helped

542
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: us curate a lot of it. He gave us some

543
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: of his picks on this list, including the Thiano who

544
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: for me is one of the greatest promises of Latin

545
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: wrath and she's like a trans goddess legend vibes. I

546
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 4: think she'll definitely become one of those people influential people.

547
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: There's best Bluma had to be on there as well,

548
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: also one of Bad Bunny's picks, and like just a

549
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: Quartz is on there as well. There's a There's a

550
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 4: wide array of stars that I think are going to

551
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: be playing on the radio for quite some time. We're

552
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: on our Spotify playlist.

553
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Okay, radio, honey, you were radio with a radio a tuner?

554
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Who has a tuner? Okay, So, given your musical prowess

555
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: and expertise, our listeners love to know who to listen to,

556
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: who do they want to stream, who do they want

557
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: to add to their playlist? So I'm going to ask

558
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: you a couple of questions. Bad Bunny fill in the

559
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: blank for rest of us.

560
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: I would say it right now. Have you heard it

561
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: right now?

562
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: No?

563
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: No, She's a Puerto Rican female star that bad Bunny

564
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: has been like really pushing for for a really long time,

565
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: and she lives in that same world. You'll have to

566
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: listen to because you're gonna be like shacking ass for real.

567
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 5: Download right now, download right now, right now?

568
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Okay, the USA Selena Baby, Well, let's do both.

569
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: Oh whoa, Okay, I got you. I have a good

570
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: one for both. If you like Selena Kitania, you should

571
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: be listening to Estevi or Stevie. She just released a

572
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: new EP called Gumbilicious that is phenomenal. She's giving pop.

573
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: Selena Kitania, this new girl. I love her.

574
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Whoa, I can't even I'm down.

575
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 5: I'm taking Do you see me taking? How often do

576
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 5: I take notes?

577
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Okay?

578
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: Wait?

579
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: No, Also, I'm gonna need to We're gonna share.

580
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Okay, see the Usta Baby Selena Selena Gomez.

581
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: There's this girl group named Bella Dos. I love them

582
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: and they are they have those elements of pop that

583
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: you would associate with Selena Gomez but also has elements

584
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: of bou Chat that of R and B. There's a

585
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: little bit of everything on their new album l Pop,

586
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: which stands for a Latin pop. Y'all need to get

587
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: into that because.

588
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: They're y Okay, Mark Anthony aka J Loo's x Gusta, Let's.

589
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 4: See what other excesses are Mania music these days. I'm

590
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 4: just kidding, No, I that's area I can't do. Mark Anthony.

591
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: Well, who's like a new salt, who's a new ballad singer?

592
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, Who's I don't think there's very many seal settles

593
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: out there right now.

594
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Like space, Somebody better come for it, dude.

595
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, No, But I'm if you're into

596
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: Bruno Mars and Mark Anthony, let's say Omar Apollo. That's

597
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: somebody who I think is generally acceptable for any audience

598
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: and who's an amazing Latin artist.

599
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: Love it Okay, Now you're Queen j Loustau.

600
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: Ali Brooke Do you know Ali from for the Harmony?

601
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: Ali? Yes?

602
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: Yes? Ali Brooke is having a comeback right now. She

603
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 4: just dropped the single called Gone to Bed. But if

604
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: you listen to her discography, she has really cool Latino

605
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: fusion songs that work really well.

606
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm ready for these girls, Like,

607
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Normani, but I'm like when is it,

608
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Like when is it going to hit? Like I'm ready

609
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: for these girls to like step out and do it.

610
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Camilla, I think is amazing, but I want

611
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: the rest of them to have that same success. I

612
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: want them to have their moment. I'm ready for these girls.

613
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: I think they're also uniquely talented in their own way.

614
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: They're young, like let's do it right, Like, let's let's

615
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: get after it.

616
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: And if you have listened to Camila's new album Familia,

617
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: is it so good? Fire? It's really good. It's the

618
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: Latino and fusionists that we're talking about on this podcast,

619
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 4: Like there's English Mariacci, there's like Latin Spanish pop, like

620
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: it's all of the above, and I think that's what's

621
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: perfect about it.

622
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Well, And isn't that such a reflection of who we

623
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: are as Latinos here in the US too? I Mean,

624
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: we're all made up of such a variety right of

625
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: cultural experiences, Like we're America, but we're still Latino. We

626
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: speak English, but we also speak Spanish, Like we like

627
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: country music, but we also like Regaton, Like I think

628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: that's so.

629
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

630
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: I think it embodies how we exist in the US.

631
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: It's time for our icon showdown. Oh no, oh yeah,

632
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play referees the mass.

633
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: You're stepping into the ring. Okay, here we go.

634
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pick a winner from these two songs.

635
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 5: Ready, yes and ready Okay.

636
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: On the Floor by Jennifer Lopez or Hips Don't Lie

637
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: by Shakira.

638
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're starting off really strong.

639
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: With hard hard hard, Like this is like calculus. We

640
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: got to go there because.

641
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: Like on the Floor pop, ifs Don't Lie also pop,

642
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: but like Ifs Don't Lie Shakira.

643
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: Whoa, I'm sure that you actually went there. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

644
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

645
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: I like It by Cardi B. Or Lose You to

646
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Love Me Selena Gomez.

647
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: I like it by Cardi B.

648
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I like it Okay, Gonga by Gloria Stefan or vv

649
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: MEB that Margana.

650
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: I was going to say, it has to be like

651
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: that because those are tough.

652
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: That pair of is very, very tough. I'm gonna have

653
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: to say iconicness levelness conga.

654
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, oh you ready two rap songs rapsh my

655
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: shot Lin, Manuel, Miranda and Hamilton or Fetid. You have

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: better though, Okay, last begat Ricky Martin or VERSACEI on

657
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: the floor, Bruno Mars.

658
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with my gay icon legend Ricky.

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Speaker 5: Beg Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I love that. That was so fun.

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Speaker 3: You were so good.

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Speaker 4: That was hard.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard because they all stand alone. But listen,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if you've only got

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Speaker 1: ten songs to add to your playlist, got to make room,

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Speaker 1: got to make room. So the Mas, what is your

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Speaker 1: astrological sign?

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Speaker 4: I am a virgo?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh no, no, don't start just kidding scared.

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Speaker 5: You know who else is a virgo?

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Speaker 4: Actually? I do Gladia Stepan she is she is.

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Speaker 1: So for our loyal listeners, you know that we love

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Speaker 1: to have a little fun with our astrological signs and

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Speaker 1: our in house Walter Mergado, Ak, Joseph Garrio, so Joseah.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about the present state of

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Speaker 1: music with Themas, but you're going to take us into

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Speaker 1: the future, baby, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I am going to take you in the future with

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Speaker 2: a few people that I think need to be talked about.

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Speaker 2: So I want to start twenty twenty four with bad

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Speaker 2: Bunny and he is a Pisces.

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Speaker 3: So here is the tea for you guys.

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Speaker 2: It is a year of two halves, So the first

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Speaker 2: half is going to test your patients with potential work

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Speaker 2: pressures and financial constraints. But luck is on your side

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Speaker 2: for the second half. But stay focused and work hard.

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Speaker 1: So is he going to break his Spotify global streaming

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Speaker 1: record in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 5: What say you?

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Speaker 3: I think with this new album it is going to

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Speaker 3: change the.

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Speaker 5: World, Thomas, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Cannot confirm? For Din I.

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Speaker 1: He's such a pro. Okay, I need to know what

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Speaker 1: is in store for j Lo?

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Speaker 5: Are power Leo?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: J Loo?

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Speaker 2: The Power Leo twenty twenty four is giving a little

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Speaker 2: bit of good and it's I need to be a

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00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: little bit challenging. But stay calm and be patient and

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00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: take everything as a lesson learned. Keep yourself composed. Think

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Speaker 2: twice before using any bitter statements or throwing shade at

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Speaker 2: your partner.

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Speaker 1: Or making faces in the car when you're fighting.

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Speaker 2: With the halfleck Yes like that, and take time to

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Speaker 2: take care of yourself.

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Speaker 3: Be patient and be kind to yourself. In twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: J Loo new music. We just got to wait, so Massa,

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Speaker 5: Did we just get new music from Jaalo?

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Speaker 4: No, we're going to get new music from Jayla?

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Speaker 1: Do they keep delaying that? I thought that was going

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Speaker 1: to happen in the summer.

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Speaker 4: It was supposed to happen this year, and Alyssa, it

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Speaker 4: was delayed. But I got to listen to it and

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Speaker 4: it's really good.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We also, let me just tell you that's why stress,

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Speaker 2: anxiety and pressure are getting very heavy for Leo in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Because the album's coming.

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Speaker 4: Stop.

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Speaker 5: But the musses it's good.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: He also doesn't sugarcoat, he's not liar.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear it. Now, can you sneak

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Speaker 3: us something I.

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Speaker 4: Sure cannot.

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Speaker 1: Okay? And then last but not least, we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 3: Oh m geez, what's his sign?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Ricky Martin is a Capracorn. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: this year has a lot of luck for Capricorn. So

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Speaker 2: it's very fortunate time for you guys. There's going to

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Speaker 2: be a lot of career opportunities and a lot of many, Henny,

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Speaker 2: but with many, you better invest it. You better invest

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Speaker 2: it in your health, in your body, and in your mind.

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00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Because you want to keep a healthy bank account. You

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Speaker 2: want to just keep everything in order. Don't splurge, not

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Let's save, really, really, let's say, let's save.

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Speaker 2: I know I just got to diamon embrace it, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Capricorn. I'm a Taurus.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit scared to have you give me aries,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna skip that one. Thank you. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather just kind of play my luck with the signs.

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Speaker 1: Let it go, just let it go, let it Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is my that is my moo.

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Speaker 5: Going into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Thomas, we can't let you go without asking you

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00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: something that we have asked ourselves but won't answer because

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: it's way too hard of a question. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to put it on you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I know you have like an encyclopedia of music in

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: your brain. If you had to pick your top three

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00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: Latin songs of all time, I'm talking all time, they

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: don't not too popular now, it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: something that's relevant.

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Speaker 5: Now, what are.

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Speaker 4: They since we started this episode talking about fang Gabrielle

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Speaker 4: and the icons that were not recognized on this season.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to start my three songs with a by

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Speaker 4: Fango riel specifically, his rendition is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's that is to me, like you talk about performances

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00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: that are, like, you know, life changing, and you see

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00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: something you're never the same again.

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Speaker 5: If you guys have not watched this, go on YouTube

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Speaker 5: and watch it. That's from us. I love you. You're

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Speaker 5: so good. That's such a good one, okay you.

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Speaker 4: My number two is going to be another Mexican icon

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Speaker 4: of the same level of I would say in the

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Speaker 4: songwriting realm, and that's going to be by Joan Sebastian.

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Speaker 5: I've not heard that.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Once you listen to it, he literally sings about crossing

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Speaker 4: mountains and rivers because he loves this woman so much.

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: He will do literally anything.

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Speaker 5: I've done that I want to be loved like that.

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Speaker 4: I love you. That is probably one of the best

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Speaker 4: when it comes to songwriting.

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Speaker 3: Wow, on my playlist.

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Speaker 4: Please get into it.

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Speaker 1: Thomas, are you starting a podcast all the time?

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Speaker 3: Because you bet?

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00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: I know you better.

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00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 5: Because I need to know about these people.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And then last, but certainly, not least just third.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Whoa hey, but all of your ship is all love?

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Are you in love? Thomas? No, I just go out

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00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: it's all oh so, he's reminiscent.

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 5: Having a hot girl Winter having a hot girl Winter girl.

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Speaker 4: From the gaze of my a. They can't see me yet,

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00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: but you can see me visually on my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening and you want to see, it's

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00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: gonna be worth it.

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Speaker 3: Look them us true.

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Speaker 1: Thomas, you are truly so special to me. I have

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: loved getting to know you, watching your career just explode,

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00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: and I am so so honored that you were a

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: guest on our show because to me, this is like

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00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of something so special for you. I think

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00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: people really need to hear your voice, your thoughts, and

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00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: your expertise in this industry.

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Speaker 5: So I thank you so much for being here.

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: And remember, guys, you can follow the mass on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: He is Thomas underscore Mire on ig and Thomas on TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Love, thank you for having me with such

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00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: a pleasure.

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00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: I said thank you to Thomas, and I've said thank

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00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: you to our listeners. I've not said thank you to you.

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00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: Oh God, I'm gonna cry.

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00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: Seriously, no, no, seriously, though this has been so much fun,

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is actually work, because it never

817
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: feels like work when I'm sitting across from you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it has been amazing. It's you know, I'm going

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00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: wait what, I'm having a premonition something's happening and I

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Speaker 2: see twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: What do you say?

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Speaker 3: I feel like we need to get some Margarita's and

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: planned for season two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, hold on, b listen, You've never been wrong.

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Speaker 1: It happened, and we have one that watching over us,

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Speaker 1: so hold that thought before we go. We want to say,

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Speaker 1: if you guys like becoming an icon, please please please

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00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: please rate the show. Write us a review. It can

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: be in English or Spanish or Spanglish.

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00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: Yes, we love Spanglish.

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Speaker 1: We love a little Spanglish. And share it with your friends,

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00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: share it with your family. It would mean so much

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00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: to Joseph and I because just because the season's over,

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00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: some of you might have met us during Bruno Mars,

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00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: some of you might have met us from the very

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Speaker 1: beginning with Bad Bunny, and some of you maybe just

837
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: started listening to Gloria so remember there's thirty six episodes.

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Speaker 1: Go back and join them all and have a margarita

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Speaker 1: for us. We'll see you guys soon, Bye bye. Becoming

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Speaker 1: an Icon is presented by Sonoo and Iheart's Michael Duda

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Speaker 1: podcast Network. Listen to Becoming an Icon on the iHeartRadio app,

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