1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show Monday edition, Live with you here. I'm 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: coming out of New York City, Clay on vacation today, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: much deserved down in sunny Florida, the Free State of 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm in this lockdown COMMI Lunacy of New York City 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: and not quite technically locked down, Yepp. It's getting close. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Doing lots of things here. I'll bring you up to 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: speed on the latest on the covidcase. We actually had 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: a lot of news from over the weekend, big news 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: with COVID in least the northeastern part of the US, 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: the northern parts of the US east of the Mississippi. 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: You have a lot of COVID New York at an 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: all time case high right now, all time the entire 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: pandemic right now. And I'll tell you what that's like 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: in the city and what it means for the narrative 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and the Biden administration, the Biden regime. We also have 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Mansion saying he's out on build back better. He's out, 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and the Libs are freaking out about it. Almost as 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: much as they are about COVID, they are very unhappy 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: with the situation because what does that mean for the 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Biden agenda? Is there even something you could call a 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: Biden agenda at this moment other than ruining the country? Perhaps, 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: if that's the agenda, Great job, Joe, doing fantastic work. 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Kamala has another difficult interview over the weekend, not the 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: first time, not the last time, where she is exposed 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: as a disingenuous phony, which is not a surprise to 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: any of you, But we will spend some time on that. Also, 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: love to hear from some of you today, folks eight 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight eight two on the lines. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: Let me just start with what's going on here in 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: New York. I walked in to the studio today and 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I walk past one of these COVID testing centers. Now 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: it's fascinating because they're all these free testing sites that 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the city has set up on the street and it 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: looks like, oh man, they're really on it. Remember, these 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: testing sites have been out there for weeks, if not 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: months at this point. I've been seeing those testings. They 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: set up a little tent and there are generally some 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: very board looking young people sitting there with a clipboard, 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: and you know they'll do a little test feed. And 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: so I wonder, why are there all these people who 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: are gathered together in huge lines. I mean, well over 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: one hundred people in line of the testing site near 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: me this morning. You imagine it's cold. It's thirty something 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: degrees in New York right now. They're waiting outside, of course, 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: because inside is terrifying with all the COVID. But they're 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: all vaccinated, right, but they're still all terrified. M We're 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna try to make sense of that in a moment. 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: But so they're in line because the City of New 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: York testing, as told to me by one of these 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: testing sites that I went to a couple of weeks ago, 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: before all of the madness broke out here, the City 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: of New York will not guarantee your results in less 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: than forty eight hours. Well gee, that's really helpful, right, 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: That's really helpful. That's what they told me at the 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: testing site. I said, really, you got fifteen minute rapid tests, 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: but if you go to a city facility that is free, 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: you actually might have to wait. Today. This is just folks, 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: it's another symptom. If you will. It's indicative of the government. 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Is just a catastrophe on all this stuff, all right, 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: they test and trace is absurd. The different masking policies, 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the patchwork of O vaccination cards here masks there, maybe both. 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: They promised it would stop the spread, and this is 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: the critical distinction we have to make today. They promised 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: us that if we only listened, and people sometimes didn't, 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and then it was you have to we're going to 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: force you because they were so sure they were right. 69 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: If you are wondering how certain they were, I don't 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: want to just vocalize this to you. I want you 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: to hear them, because right now you'll think, hold on 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: a second, we see what's happening now, and we remember 73 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: what they told us then. So they were wrong, and 74 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: either they lied or they were reckless. Right. Either they 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: can be criticized for pretending to be certain, or they 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: just knew. They didn't know but didn't care because they 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: knew that a lot of people would comply when force 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: was applied. And they think like, that's a genius new strategy. Oh, 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: we'll fire you unless you do what we say. Yeah, 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: that'll work a lot of the time, not all the time. 81 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: There are people who said I'm not going to do it. 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Brave people stand on principle out there who just said 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: I refuse. But here's what they were saying. I think 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it's really important for you to be reminded when I 85 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: say they, I'm not talking about random individuals on the internet. 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: The president, the head of the CDC, Fauci himself, Saint Fauci, 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: a little tyrant. He is coming the Michael Avenati of 88 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: public health officials. I can assure you, give it time, 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: they will turn on him, because nobody who is paying 90 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: attention can really think that this is what was promised. 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Here's what they were saying. You're not going to get 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: COVID if you happen these vaccinations. These vaccines are highly 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: highly effective. Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: get sick. They're really really good against variants. Everyone who 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: takes the vaccine is not just protecting themselves but reducing 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: their transmission to other people, allowing society to get back 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: to normal. Get your first shot, and when you're do 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: for your second, get your second shot. Our key goal 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: is to stop the transmission, to get the immunity level 100 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: shops so that you get almost no infection going on whatsoever. 101 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: are not going to get infected. If you're vaccinated, you're 103 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: an ICU unit, and you're not going to die. If 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear 106 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: a mask. Anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in 107 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: indoor and outdoor activities large or small without wearing a 108 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: mask or physical distancing. Is there anything they said there 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: that turned out to be true? That was the CDC director, 110 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: that was Joe Biden. Is there anything they said that? Now? 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Remember that was from June July, maybe May, within six 112 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: months after the mass vaccination campaign. And remember their certainty 113 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: was used as the basis, the moral and policy basis 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: for the mandates. This will stop the spread. You aren't 115 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: allowed to make the choice. And this is so critical. 116 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: We have to separate these two things because the way 117 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: we deal with them is very different. The way we 118 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: look at these policies changes dramatically when you separate outpping 119 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: the spread from individual protection against severe disease. Let's let's 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: start with the individual protection against severe disease. So far, 121 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the data shows that if you are unvaccinated, you are 122 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: at around a ten times greater risk of hospitalization and 123 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: death from COVID. That's substantial, which is why I sit 124 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: here and Clay, when he's with me here day in 125 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and day out, we sit here saying, please, if you 126 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: are at risk at this vaccine I would never mandated 127 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: for anybody, but please, if you are sixty five and 128 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: up or you have serious comorbidities, think long and hard 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: about this data. Now, that's that's a discussion that we're 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: used to, because that's true for seasonal influenza as well. 131 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: People who are senior citizens at high risk compromise immune systems, 132 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: they are told, please get the shot. You know, my 133 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: parents have been getting a flu shot for years now 134 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: as they've gotten into their older years. Right. But then 135 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: there's the stop the spread component of this, because is 136 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: that alone, if it's really just about individual protection, what's 137 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: the policy justification for saying get the shot or you'll 138 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: get fired. I mean, you're the one that's deciding your 139 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: own health risks, you're making your own decisions. But it's 140 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: not about other people. The state is forcing people, and 141 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: the federal government tried to force Remember this, my red state, 142 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, the entire country. They tried this on. 143 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Now I know it's stuck in the courts, but they 144 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: tried a nationwide mandate. And the basis for the nationwide 145 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: mandate was that this will stop the spread. I played 146 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: the soundbites for you. You You heard it, stops the spread, 147 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: won't get infected. You have eighty seven percent of people 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: sixty five and up currently vaccinated, sixty one of all ages, 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: a massive and rapid vaccination campaign that has already been 150 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: under way. Now, what is their explanation for what's going 151 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: on here? That's something will have to spend more time 152 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: on because they're throwing a lot of things out there 153 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: at you. One of them is the vaccines don't work 154 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: for very long, very well, except as individual protection stopping 155 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: the spread. They're vaccinated people getting sick all over the place. 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: You know this. And now there are famous ones who 157 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: are big vaccine mandate advocates. Remember there's vaccines, there's vaccine mandates, 158 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: there's what's say for you, there's stop the spread, separate out. 159 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: They want to conflate these because they know they're losing 160 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: ground right now on these stop the spread because they're 161 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: not stopping the spread. They didn't stop the spread, and 162 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: they had their way, and we had the masks on 163 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: all those others. Does anyone think masking policy is gonna 164 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: stop what's happening in New York or even bring it 165 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: down so that you can see it on a graph. 166 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: I would come out here and say, I'm surprised, maya culpa, 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I must have missed something. If they even showed 168 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: you a ten or fifteen percent case reduction because of 169 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: a mask mandate over the next two to three weeks, 170 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: I'd say, wow, it actually does have some Really, it's 171 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing. We all know what. We've seen 172 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: it a million times already. So you sit here and 173 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: you say, well, what are they now telling you? What's 174 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: the explanation for all of this? Why did they go 175 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: to this extreme of government overreach mandating vaccines at a 176 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: national level when we see that it does not stop 177 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the spread. Fauci is the absolute worst. I've been telling 178 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: you all along. This guy is a nightmare. He's a 179 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: sanctimonious nightmare. Has he ever admitted we were wrong? Have 180 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: you ever heard him say, guys, we got that wrong. 181 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: It's actually not very effective at stopping the spread at all. 182 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: And if you're wondering who's starting to figure this out, 183 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: it's people like Elizabeth Warren, Senator from Massachusetts, vaccinated and boostered, 184 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: sick with COVID right now. Corey Booker, Senator from New Jersey, 185 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: vaccinated and boostered sick, not asymptomatic, sick with COVID right now. 186 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Jim Kramer, the guy who wants the military over at 187 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: CNBC to make you get the shot and maybe make 188 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: your kids get the shots too, sick with COVID right now. 189 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: He has vaccinated and boostered. Calling these breakthrough cases now 190 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: is laughable. The vaccines obviously have a pretty big hole 191 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: in them when it comes to infection and spread. How 192 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: big we'll find out. But to say that this is 193 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: an effective vaccine, it's stopping the spread. And they can say, 194 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: oh omicron, but oh delta plus omicron all these things, Yeah, 195 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: that's not what they were saying three or four months ago. 196 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: We knew there would be variants. There are always variants. 197 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: And it looks like the omicron variant is a more 198 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: mild version of COVID, which is actually cause for optimism, 199 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: but instead they use it as cause for greater panic 200 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: and say, now we need even more shots. There are 201 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: currently bills that have been that are making their way 202 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: through the process in the New York legislature. You can 203 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: see this. It's online about mandatory boosters statewide. So does 204 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean mandatory boosters forever? Probably that's their idea. That's 205 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: the best they've got. Now we're okay. We said we're 206 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: just gonna make you get the shot once. Now we're 207 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna make you get the shot forever. Now it's shots, 208 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: shots and more shots. As we sit here and say, 209 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't stop the spread. Look what's going on. 210 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: New York is the most heavily vaccinated large population state 211 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: in the country, and it has an all time high 212 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: in cases right now, more than in January of twenty 213 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, more than in March and April of twenty 214 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: twenty all time high. If this is not failure, friends, 215 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: what does failure to stop the spread look like? I 216 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: ask you that question. Everybody, please think for yourselves on this. 217 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: Look at these clowns scrambling for explanations at the CDC 218 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and elsewhere. They were wrong. They're not as smart nor 219 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: as moral as they thought they were. And now they 220 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: have two options. Accept that. Be honest about it say 221 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: to people like me who've been talking about natural immunity 222 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: and the lack of efficacy of masks for many, many months. Wow, 223 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: you actually had a point. Maybe we should have talked 224 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: about this like adults or the other option, more more 225 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: mask up, harder, more shots, maybe lockdowns. Which one do 226 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: you think the Commies are going to pursue right now 227 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: in this Biden regime. 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Please check out my Buck Sexton podcast in 258 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: the morning it goes up. It's every Monday to Friday, 259 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: just a quick rundown the news events wherever you listen 260 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: to podcasts The Buck Sexton Show podcast, My may Man 261 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Clay out on vacation today. He's having a great time 262 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: done in Florida, Damri. I've checked on him. He is 263 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: happy and warm and probably eating some delicious food and 264 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: maybe having a little bit of booze and relaxing, so 265 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: he's good to go. I have to tell you that 266 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: I've been on the forefront of anti faucism from the 267 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: very beginning. I've really always thought this guy he just 268 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: I know who he is. You kind of see this guy, 269 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: you hear him, you know, and like the cuddly old 270 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: grandpa like doctor. But somehow I've managed to be the 271 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: highest paid federal government employee of millions of government employees 272 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: for years, and I keep my job despite a very 273 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: checkered past of particularly bad decision making, you know, through 274 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: administration after administration. This guy managed to work for Trump 275 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: and then work for Biden and have the Left consider 276 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: him a hero. The whole time, I've been telling you 277 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: he's a lunatic that only knows how to do one thing, 278 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: and it is tell more people what to do. Here 279 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: he is saying what I've been telling you for a 280 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: long time. Now out loud. He wants you to mask 281 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: on planes forever. Several of the top you know, the 282 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: CEOs of the top airlines said that on an airplane 283 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: you are actually safer than you are in an ICU 284 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the protection with the filter filtration system they have. They 285 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: were suggesting that there really isn't much of a need 286 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: for a mask on an airplane. Are we going to 287 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: get to the point where we won't have to wear 288 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: masks on airplanes? I don't think so. I think when 289 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a closed space, even though the filtration 290 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: is good, that you want to go that extra step. 291 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: You want to go the extra step. Masks forever, folks. 292 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: He's he's actually saying masks forever, and that Zambie, just 293 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: understand this, which I've said all that that I feel 294 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: like has always been a risk of the legacy of 295 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: stupidity here. You know, this is this is like the TSA, 296 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: which for a while was you know, padding down, uh, 297 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, wounded veterans in wheelchairs looking for bombs and 298 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: weapons and things, as if this is keeping anybody safer. 299 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, then the TSA had to loosen up a 300 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit. Right then people have figured out this is 301 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: too much. It's a little too crazy. They've gotten a 302 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: lot better, I will say, in terms of harassing people 303 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: at least, whether it's effective security or not, it's a 304 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: whole other conversation. Fauci is the worst. I told you 305 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: I was right, and I'm not changing my two and 306 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: until this guy has gone mask up forever on planes. 307 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: It's what he wants you. Doctor Marty McCarry one of 308 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: the best voices on this with real expertise. I'll be 309 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: joining us here in a few moments to talk about 310 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: what we're seeing. Protecting the value of your savings account 311 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: is often a one person job. That person is you. 312 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: It's one thing to earn it, it's another to save 313 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: the money, but protecting the value of it takes further 314 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: thought and action. 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That's a headline on a daily 333 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: mail piece right now, giving you a sense of what's 334 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: going on now with COVID surging across the country twenty 335 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: four hours over one hundred and twenty thousand I'm sorry, 336 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: the daily average as of December nineteen, one hundred and 337 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: thirty three thousand cases. What is going on here? We 338 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: are joined now by somebody who can actually lend some 339 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: expertise to that question, Doctor Marty McCarey's with us now. 340 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: John's ha Kins, Professor, editor in chief of MedPage Today, 341 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: an author of the New York Times bestseller. The price 342 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: we pay Doctor McCarry. Great to have you back, good 343 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: to be with you. Buck. What's going on? We've got 344 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: cases all across the country. If we've got lines of 345 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: hundreds of people at testing sites all over the city 346 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: and folks going on TV saying I'm sick but I 347 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: was vaccinated, I don't understand. How is this such a 348 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: surprise to so many people. Well, we've got two different 349 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: things happening. One is omicron, and the South African doctors 350 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: who first describe it said early on, don't panic over this, 351 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: and now they're saying, hey, we told you not to panic. 352 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty clear. It's mild. It doesn't inspect the deep 353 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: lung tissue nearly as well. It's superficial. It's a common cold. 354 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: So that's running through the country. And if you were 355 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: sitting in my doctor's office and I said you're probably 356 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: going to get the common cold this winter, you'd say, okay, 357 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't it wouldn't be armageddon. Separate from that, 358 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: we have delta infecting nonimmune adults and some unboosted seniors 359 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: and they're shown up in the hospital. That's an entirely 360 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: separate thing, and that's very localized, it's very consigned. So 361 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: what do you make of the policies that are under 362 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: discussion right now and are you concerned doc that going 363 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: forward we could see a resumption of either capacity restrictions 364 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: in places like New York, maybe California, other Northeastern states, 365 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: possible lockdowns again for hospital capacity. It feels like for 366 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of us, we're back in a place that 367 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: we were told we'd never be in, and this is 368 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: after extreme measures were taken in recent months to get 369 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: as many people as possible to get the shot. It's 370 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: as if we have not learned our lessons from the 371 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: profound damage of social isolation. And look, I think people 372 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: should be careful if they're in an area of an 373 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: active outbreak. I would be careful if there's an active 374 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: influenza outbreak in my community. But right now, it is 375 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: very clear that it is different cult or near impossible 376 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: to contain a highly transmissible respiratory pathogen that looks like 377 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: the common cold. And so what we've got to do 378 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: is we've got to bring attention to early treatment. We've 379 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: never heard about it. Doctors we hear about from the government, 380 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: never talk about it. We've got to start talking about 381 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: early treatment because it's what we have. It's ready to go. 382 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Some of these things are already on the market. I'm 383 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: talking about fluvoxamine, vitamin D, saline irrigation, budecinide, which is 384 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: a steroid inhaler. All of that stuff you can pick 385 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: up at the pharmacy. Some need a prescription. We never 386 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: hear about those things. These are not things with controversies 387 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: like I've mected in hydroxy. These have one hundred percent 388 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: pro solid, supportive trial data. And we don't hear about 389 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: the monoclonals that work on omicron and the delta variant. 390 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: They're out there, but the government did not pre plan 391 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: well enough, so we don't have enough doses. There's being 392 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: a doctor Marty Harry who's of Johns Hopkins University Medical 393 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: School as professor. He's also author the New York Times 394 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: bestseller The Price We Pay, and you often see him 395 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: on Fox News and hear him on this show talking 396 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: about what we're really facing here with COVID, Doctor McCarry. 397 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: When you when you hear your general medical colleague, doctor 398 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Fauci going on TV to say that he thinks we 399 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: should mask up forever on planes in the same week, 400 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: essentially as two airline CEOs who understand the int the 401 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: filtration systems very well said they don't really think that 402 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: masking on planes does much of anything. What's that all about? 403 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, is this surprising to you? So the airline 404 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: CEOs are not just saying that because we're sick of masks. 405 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: They're saying it because they've got very good doctors advising them, 406 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: and they've basically explained how the filtration and the airflow 407 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: exchange in the airplanes makes it one of the safest 408 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: places around. Now, if doctor Fauchio wants to wear a 409 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: mask for the rest of his life, he can go 410 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: ahead and do that. I don't want to of like that. 411 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: We've got to at some point recognize that we've got 412 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: to move on and live our lives. And so what 413 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: you're seeing is this knee jerk reflex by the government. 414 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: When we start seeing some cases go up, they don't 415 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: look at the hospitalization numbers as well, because there's a 416 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: bit of a decoupling there. They're not tracking with the 417 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: same level of increase, and they immediately go to boosting 418 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: young people and they immediately go to masks. How about 419 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: we talk about early treatment boosters and young people have 420 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: no value. There's no clinical data to support that. Yeah, 421 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: you are writing about this, I know this week in 422 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal on boosters for young people. It 423 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: seems to me that they've got a big problem that 424 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: if the public focus is in on a lot of 425 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: the fauciite believers, so to speak, are not really going 426 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: to have any satisfactory answers. One of them doc has 427 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: to do with getting kids the shot was really it 428 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: could only be explained as something that would stop spread 429 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the actual risk factor to children. 430 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: But one we know that children tend not to spread 431 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: it very much in general, and two even the vaccinated 432 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: are spreading this. So what is now that what is 433 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: really the policy justification for forcing children who to go 434 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: to screet if they're going to go to school, they 435 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: have to get the shot? To go out and eat 436 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: In New York City at a restaurant, there are six, seven, eight, 437 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: nine year olds that are supposed to show papers. We're 438 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: being told we have to get boosters. When where is 439 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: this coming from? What data are they relying on? Well, 440 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: they're making up a lot of data as they go. 441 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: They are actually looking at just antibody levels and not 442 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: T cell immunity. They're ignoring natural immunity. T cell immunity 443 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: is what you get when you get vaccinated or get 444 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: the infection, and it's not that measurable, but it's very effective. 445 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Now boosters is just for one second, because I'll have 446 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: the piece coming out in the Wall Street Journal with 447 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: the formal scientific argument in a few days. But the 448 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: death rate in anyone under age thirty who's fully vaccinated 449 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: without a booster is zero. The booster is not going 450 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: to lower that any further. And so what we have 451 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: now is this knee jerk reaction which is creating a distraction. 452 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: Cloth masks and two year olds boosting college students as 453 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a requirement. Those are not our issues. The issue is 454 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: that we have public health officials using a one hammer 455 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: approach when we have a massive tool box of options 456 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: we should be using right now, Doctor McCarry, what do 457 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: you make of right now? It seems the Biden administration 458 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: is pretending, I don't know what else to say, pretending 459 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: like this is still just the unvaccinated that are causing 460 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: the problems and that are at risk. They put out 461 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: a White House statement over the weekend we are intent 462 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: on not letting a mccron disrupt work in school. For 463 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: the vaccinated, you've done the right thing and we will 464 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: get through this. For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a 465 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, 466 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm. Are really intense 467 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and accusatory statement from the White House right now at 468 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: a time when fully vaccinated and boostered Elizabeth Warren and 469 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: Corey Booker and Jim Kramer all lots of folks getting 470 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: and spreading this virus. So what does the data actually 471 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: tell us about how effective the vaccines are at stopping 472 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: the spread? Well, the peak viral shedding is about the 473 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: same if you're vaccinated and unvaccinated, but the window of 474 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: time that you're contagious is shorter when you have immunity. 475 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: And I reject the whole framework that they've given us 476 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: at the White House of the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. 477 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: It's the immune and the non immune, because natural immunity 478 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: is effective. So what we need to do is encourage 479 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: high risk adults, in my opinion, to get vaccinated if 480 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: they haven't had the infection already, but if they've made 481 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: a poor decision, and we see that all the time 482 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: in medicine, with potato chips and you name it. They 483 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: do so at their own individual risk. They pose no 484 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: public health threat to those who have immunity in the community, 485 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry, real quick for let you go and doctor 486 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: McCarry from Johns Hopkins University Medical School, and you should 487 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: all check out his book, The Price We Pay Honest 488 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: Debate in Science as good as he says, and it 489 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: certainly is. You'll see it in that book, doctor McCarry. 490 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that people who have been believers in 491 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: the apparatus, not in the science, been the apparatus or 492 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: the health establishment at this point are finally seeing now 493 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: there's a problem here. Yeah. I think they're seeing that 494 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: what comes out of the CDC is often what I 495 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: call medical propaganda. If you look at their Arizona study 496 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: on masks they didn't have, there were all kinds of 497 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: problems that gave created a false statistic that if school 498 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: districts have mass mandates they would be three point five 499 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: times less likely to have an outbreak. Turns out they 500 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: were looking at schools that were closed so called virtual academies, 501 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: and they were schools that were not even didn't even 502 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: exist that they listed in the study. So it's complete 503 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: fraudulent work. I mean that should have been retracted. Yet 504 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: the CDC put it out there to justify what they're doing, 505 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: which is they come up with a conclusion and then 506 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: they go and jerry break a study to support it. 507 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Same with their two studies on natural immunity. Both these 508 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: studies conflict with everything else out there, and so what 509 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: you're seeing the true stripes right now of political physicians 510 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: who are government appointed doctors calling the shots right now. 511 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: At the same time, there's important therapeutics, vaccines work, and 512 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I hope people don't lose that important message that immunity 513 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: does downgrade the severity of COVID and it's good to 514 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: have immunity. But I'm afraid we're losing that because the 515 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: credibility of public health has been shot. 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He's with 541 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: us right now. Mark, thanks for being here. Thanks Buck. 542 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: As you said, I'm an emergence in medicine physician and 543 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: have been practicing for about thirty years, and I am 544 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: really getting tired of doctor Fauci's saying that he represents 545 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: science that and folks have to remember, science says absolutely nothing. 546 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: It's only scientists. Science is a method by which you 547 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: evaluate something gathered data and interpret it and it's only 548 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the scientists that then interpret it. And everybody brings biases 549 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and how their worldview colors how they interpret that data. 550 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: So you tell me what data you've gotten and how 551 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: you interpret it instead of saying from on high, this 552 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: is what the science says. I've, by the way, well done. Mark. 553 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, and I've been saying 554 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: this about Faucci for a long time. Thank you for 555 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: calling in from Ronan, Virginia. The guy shuts down debate 556 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: and shuts down the discussion about different feces for what's 557 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: really going on in different parts of the pandemic, and 558 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: he keeps being wrong about what he's shutting down and 559 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: wrong about his assertions, and he wants to be the 560 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: focal point. I mean, the greatest falsehood here of Faucism 561 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: is that this guy is not in love with the 562 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: sound of his own voice and all the TV appearances 563 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: and being on the cover of in Style magazine. There's 564 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: a pandemic going on and this evil little tyrant Smurf 565 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: is doing in Style magazine covers. Really, that's what he 566 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: should be spending his time doing and thinking about. He 567 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: loves the celebrity. This is this guy's chance. Look, he's 568 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: in his eighties. He thinks he's going to be viewed 569 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: by the Democrats as a hero for all the ages. 570 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: This was his big moment and he has gripped onto 571 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: it with a psychosis. That's why he's never going to 572 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: mid he was wrong. That's why he's never going to 573 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: be honest about any of this stuff. What does it 574 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: mean Fauciism either goes down in history as the greatest 575 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: public health policy blunder in a hundred years, or a 576 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: hero a saint that saved millions of lives, which is 577 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: of course not true. But those are the stakes, folks. 578 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: That's how he sees it. And the people that have 579 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: been propping them up and pushing this forward at every stage, 580 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: they're all a part of it too. Let me just 581 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: be clear here over at MSNBC, we're gonna get into 582 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the Joe Manchin situation act. We're not just going to 583 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: talk COVID that. Obviously, the Democrat agenda is in flames 584 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, the whole thing is a total mess. 585 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: By it an even more incompetent, more incapable of being 586 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: a president than I had anticipated, and I have had 587 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: harsh words about that. I mean, I thought it was 588 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: laughable in the primary for the Democrats that this guy 589 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: could actually be the canon, because I said, they're not. 590 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they can't be that reckless, and Biden is 591 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: such a clown. Well, I'll admit it. I was wrong. 592 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: They are that reckless, but he is such a clown, 593 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: So the initial analysis was correct. It was really just 594 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: the level of dishonesty and really political depravity that the 595 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: Democrats are willing to stoop to in order to just 596 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: have their guy and power. That's what I perhaps misunderestimated. 597 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: To borrow a Bushism, which is actually a great word 598 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: to this day, not quite as as fun though as 599 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: oh gosh, what was the Biden word that he was 600 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: using last week? That he was exponential exponential. It's grown 601 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: exponentially exponential growth. Guy is so dumb. MSNBC, though, I 602 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: just wanted this is one of their anchors. These are 603 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: people that are supposed to inform you. This was a 604 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: funny moment. So they were all completely losing their minds 605 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: about the mansion thing, but also the COVID cases over 606 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: the weekend because they're all like so vaccinated and so like, 607 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: why is anyone getting sick if they're vaccinated? Players are vaccinated, 608 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: NFL officials are vaccinated. How is this still happening? How 609 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: are these breakthrough cases happening? Oh gosh, I don't know. 610 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: Maybe the vaccines don't work as well to stop infection 611 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: as Fauci and the other idiots promised you they would. 612 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: I maybe that's obvious. Now. Anyone want to debate this? 613 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: Anyone over at CNN, MSNBC want to come on and 614 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: explain this one. Oh, they probably can't because they might 615 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: have COVID right now, even though they're triple shotted boosted. Yeah, 616 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: it's all fallen apart, folks. They were wrong. They were wrong. 617 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: They don't want to admit it. They're also wrong about economics, freedom, 618 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: the state of the country, foreign policy, a whole lot 619 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: of things, and the Biden agenda is looking like it 620 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: is not even not even up for discussion as we 621 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: go into the end of the year. On the left, 622 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: it's it's done zo, as the kids say, because you've 623 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: got Joe Mansion of West Virginia come out to say, sorry, folks, 624 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: not gonna go along with the socialist spending spree. While 625 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: inflations are already the highest it's been in decades, What 626 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: does this mean for Biden? And also a Kamala interview 627 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: that you're gonna want to hear, because wow, that's all 628 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: coming up in just a few moments. You're listening to 629 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, said Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.