1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, hey, Lyle, good to talk to you. This 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: is this is Dan. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Dan. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: How's it going, man, Yeah, it's going all right. I 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: mean I called in to talk to you about something specific, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: you know, man, Basically, Uh, I've got an a strange 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: sister if I haven't spoken to for about seven years, man. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: And I used to follow her social media just to 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: make sure, you know, she's she's healthy and alive, and 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: she posts pictures with her friends and stuff, and you know, 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: she went she went dark about about six months ago. 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, since we haven't spoken to each 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: other for seven years, we've we've only texted. I mean, 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: I I don't know what she's doing. She doesn't even 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: give her a dress house anybody. But I guess I'm 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: going to ahead of myself. But she moved across the 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: country to La to become a musician slash actor seven 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: years ago when she was eighteen. And you know, that's 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that's why I haven't spoken to her. She just doesn't 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: talk to her family anymore. And anyway, she went dark 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: on social media, and I'm thinking I'm thinking about trying 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: to find her just to make sure she's alive. 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Still, when is the last time that you talked to her. 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: On voice or do text messages count? 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Text tech text, I would say. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Text count, all right, Yeah, so texts twenty nineteen, we 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: spoke around my birthday on text messages, just you know, 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: she said she was doing well. She was substitute teaching 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: at a school, which is kind of kind of weird 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: for somebody who doesn't really have any education backgrounds. And yeah, 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: she was doing all right otherwise. And you know at 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: that time, she had trouble making the rent, so I 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: sent her. I sent her three thousand dollars to hold 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: her over. 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Really, you sent her money? 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we grew up poor. So I was Our 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: mother died when I was fourteen and she was ten, 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and I took that and studied. I studied computer security, 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: got into hacking, went to work for a tech firm 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: after college, and like, so I could I could afford 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: to help her out, you know, like that. 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: So the last time we talked her was in twenty nineteen. 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: You gave her some money, and then it's been about 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: three years and you were sort of just following her 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: on social media up until about you said six months ago, 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: she just stopped posting. 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, completely No no likes on her Twitter, no 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: tags on her Instagram. Nothing. 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: So she moved LA when she was eighteen, and then 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,559 Speaker 2: as of twenty nineteen, where was she at? 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: She was? 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I sent a check to a po box 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: in La. 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: Okay, sould we think she's still in LA. 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: I still think she's in LA. I think so. 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: And tell me about the rest of your family your 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Do you have any other siblings? 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: No other siblings. My mom was a single mom. 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: She died. 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: We went to live with our grandmother. Our grandmother raised us. 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Part of the reason maybe I don't talk to her 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: is she lived off my grandma's credit card for about 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: her first three years in LA. And grandma Grandma got 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: into one hundred kid debt on her credit card and 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: had to take out a mortgage to pay it off. 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: Sister, Hey, of your sister used your grandmother's card for 68 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars in three months for years? 69 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Sorry for years? 70 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Okay? Still and your grandma had no idea. 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: My grandma's just too nice. She wouldn't say no to her, 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: right and my sister I think is just too dumb 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: or not dumb, But she doesn't. I don't think she 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: ever knew the value of money because Grandma would just 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: pay for whatever, so I don't for it. 76 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, after these these seven years, how much contact 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: have you had with her? Throughout them? 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Just text messages maybe once a year, uh, and usually 79 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: it would be me sending something like a happy Birthday, 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: and then she sent something back a few weeks later, 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: and then you know, that's that's about it, and just 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: that kind of communication. 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So sort of once a year on her birthday, 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: you're keeping tabs with her on social media, and throughout 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: these whole seven years, she's posting on social media. 86 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, she's posting pictures of she was in 87 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: a music video for a pretty famous rapper. But yeah, 88 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: all right, so. 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: You you're keeping tabs on all still, You're you're seeing 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: what she's been up to. 91 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just to make sure she's like, okay, she's 92 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: not like that. Stuff can happen if you moved to 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: la as an eighteen year old girl with no no 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: life experience, so you know, just keep her an eye out. 95 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: And when you guys were growing up, what was your relationship. 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: Like pretty distant. I was kind of absorbed in the computer. 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I was really into computer hacking. And you know I didn't. 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really socially interact with anybody, even 99 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: my own sister, other than like the casual like I guess, 100 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: we would go to family events together and that's about it. 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: But we weren't. We weren't really super close friends or 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: anything other than you know, the shared trauma. 103 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: So mm hmmm when you say shared trauma, what is 104 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: it you're referring to? 105 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean our mom dad when we were kids. 106 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: So she took that really hard, and she went to 107 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of therapy. She got diagnosed with bipolar disorder, 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: and you know, she tried to kill herself once and 109 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: so she kind of had some poor mental health a 110 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: whole time. 111 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: So you said, I know, you sent her three thousand 112 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: bucks and you text her Happy Birthday, But when's the 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: last time you have really got into it with her 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: on whether it was on the phone or in person 115 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: or even in text? 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: Geah, in text? Definitely before twenty nineteen, I think twenty 117 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: eighteen or twenty seventeen. I I put it straight with 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: her on well, when when when we cut off Grandma's 119 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: credit card, I put it straight with her. I told 120 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: her Grandma can't of for this. She actually had to 121 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: take out a mortgage to pay off her debt and 122 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: you have to get like a job to cover your expenses, 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: and and like, yeah, it was hard to be angry. 124 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, she she she kind of understood. She she 125 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: just apologized for it. And I mean it wasn't like 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: it was an argument. It was like, oh shit, I've 127 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: been fucking up grandma's credit and my dad. I really 128 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: didn't mean to do that. So that was like when 129 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: we really got into it about you know, what she 130 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: was doing at the. 131 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: Time, and when's the last time you saw her in 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: person face to face? 133 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Seven years ago when she the day she moved out 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: to l A. I drove back to our house from 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: college and you know, said goodbye to her. She took 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: a car. She actually moved with a friend from high school, 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: this girlfriend of hers, and you know they were going 138 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to make it, make it in la of musicians and 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the models. 140 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: So okay, So she went dark on social media three 141 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: months ago. You haven't interacted with her since twenty nineteen, 142 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: and it says here you're thinking about hiring a private 143 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: investigator to go find her. 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, So I mean I got money now 145 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: I reached out to her still happy Birthday every year, 146 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: but she hasn't responded, and now her social media is dark. 147 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking of just hiring a pid like find 148 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: where she's at, who she's living with, Does she have 149 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a job, I mean, does she have a drug problem. 150 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't think she would ever tell me if she 151 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: has a drug problem. 152 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: So what is it that is making you decide now 153 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: that you want to start putting in a lot of 154 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: effort to go find her? 155 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I turned thirty, so I feel bad that I kind 156 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: of haven't spoken to her. There's not any real reason 157 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: that I don't speak to her, so, like, maybe I 158 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: could go visit and say hi. I mean, she's one 159 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: of the very few blood relatives I have, so I 160 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: feel a need to connect. 161 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Right, I was gonna say, so, so your mother died 162 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: when you guys were young. Where what's your father up to? 163 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, my father was kind of a beach bump in 164 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Florida and he's just out of the picture completely. He's 165 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: aging gracefully on the beach in Florida, just doing odd 166 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: jobs around there, and he doesn't He was out of 167 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: the picture very early when we were young because they 168 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: got a divorce and so my mom became a single 169 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: mom when I was like six years old, so it 170 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: was he's mostly just out of the picture completely. 171 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: And do you have a wife and kids in your 172 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: own family? 173 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so I got married to somebody I met 174 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: in college, and I don't have any kids yet, but 175 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: we're going to buy a house and have kids. That's 176 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: the idea in the on the northwest coast. 177 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, what does your wife think about this whole situation? 178 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: She supports it. She thinks we should try to save 179 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: her if she's in a bad spot, like maybe you 180 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: have her come live here. Minimum wage is really high 181 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: in Washington and she could get on her feet and 182 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, live off our catch go to community college 183 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: or something. And maybe she supports me. She thinks she 184 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: thinks I should to help her get on her feet. 185 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: If she's not, that's that's good that your wife is 186 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: supportive of you wanting to do that, because I could 187 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: see that, you know, if she weren't supportive, I could 188 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: see it being some some sort of a conflict, you know, 189 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: like was she cool with you giving her the three 190 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: thousand bucks? 191 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it for a while, and I 192 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: mean we weren't even sure it could be for rent, 193 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Like if it's for drugs, that's really bad. That would 194 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: buy her a lot of drugs. But I mean, we 195 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: had no way to confirm, and my wife was cool 196 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: with it. Three thousand bucks isn't a big deal to 197 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: us because just just our circumstances. 198 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Now, So, you know, I find it interesting that you're, 199 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: you know, even with that whole thing of her running 200 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: up your grandma's credit card for one hundred thousand dollars 201 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: and not knowing sort of what her deal is, if 202 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: she's addicted to drugs or sort of whatever it is 203 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: going on with her. I I am impressed that you 204 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: still have this connection to her and this desire to 205 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: help her, even though things seem like they've gotten very distant. 206 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: It's really hard to tell if she's like a manipulator 207 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: or not. And I want to believe she's not right. 208 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: You want to assume the good and everybody and that 209 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: she's just a unfortunate circumstances. She didn't know what she 210 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: was doing, and you. 211 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: Know so. 212 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: And with this private eye, what is sort of the 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: first step of trying to find her? Are you going 214 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: to provide this PI with her Instagram photos? Or you know, 215 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: I guess maybe they'll google her name and try to 216 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: find where she lives. Do you have any idea what 217 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: that process is? 218 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, so I have about you. I've kind of 219 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: kept on her because I mean, I'm a computer hacker man. 220 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: Finding uh, finding people is the kind of part of 221 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: what I do too. And so I've got her po box, 222 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I've got all of her friends that she's spoken to 223 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram, like kind of timelined out, Okay, it was 224 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: sounding really creepy, man, But I would just scroll through 225 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: her Instagram, collect the different friends she communicates with and 226 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: who who comment on her posts and kind of have 227 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: their names tagged to these identities. And so I've got 228 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: all of these in the doc and i've got her 229 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: po box. I don't have a real address, and I'm 230 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna send all this to a PI agency. 231 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: I talked to one on the phone and they're like, Okay, well, 232 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: first step is finding her. Right They're going to find 233 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: her her current address and where she's at. And I'm 234 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: not sure how they're going to do that. Maybe they 235 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: can look at county records and stuff. But if I 236 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: give them all this info, the friends she talks to 237 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: that I could find at least and maybe maybe they 238 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: can make it happen, and that's that's the hope. And 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: they said it would be about a thousand bucks to 240 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: give this initial like just finding where she is. 241 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: So I am curious about a couple of things. I 242 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: want to talk to you about how you feel like 243 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: you'll react in a couple of different scenarios. Right, Like, 244 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: let's say you hire this private investigator, they find her. 245 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: You put all this effort, not even just the financial stuff, 246 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: because the financials seem like they don't matter to you, 247 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: But you're putting in a lot of like thought and 248 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: like emotional energy into finding her, thinking about her, speculating 249 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: about whether or not she's safe. What happens? What do 250 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: you how do you think you will react if you 251 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: find her and she just doesn't want anything to do 252 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: with you because she's whatever her reason is, Maybe she 253 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: is a to drugs and she doesn't want to get better, 254 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: or maybe she has her own life that's happy, or 255 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: whatever it is, whatever her reason is. What happens if 256 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: you find her and she doesn't want anything to do 257 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: with you, how how do you think you would react 258 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: to that? 259 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I would be I would be ecstatic, especially if her 260 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: life's going good. It's okay if she doesn't want anything 261 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: to do with me, you know, but I would just 262 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I would be happy that. Well. If if she's going 263 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: through you some trouble and she doesn't want anything to 264 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: do with me, I'm not you know, if she's in 265 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: a bad place. I think I think the way I 266 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: would react is I might fly down to see her 267 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: face to face, you know, to to at least see 268 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: emotionally how she is, because it it would be a 269 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: bit different if we talk on the phone or something 270 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: and she says she wants nothing to do with me. 271 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, actually I might, I might respect her depending 272 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: on what she says on the phone. Well, I would 273 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: respect your opinion, I guess. 274 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: I guess. I guess it sounds what you're trying to 275 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: say is like if she was like, hey, my life 276 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: is going great, don't worry about me, then you wouldn't 277 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: fly down there. But if you heard her say, like 278 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: if she was kind of coming at it, and you 279 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: sort of suspected maybe like she it does have drug 280 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: problems and that's and she knows that you want to 281 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: try to send her to rehab. Uh and so that's 282 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: why she's avoiding you. If if I mean, this is 283 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: all and hypothetical, but if that were the case, would 284 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: you would you fly down there and be like, Okay, 285 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: maybe I'll get through to you if if we're face 286 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: to face. 287 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's my thought, like maybe we can 288 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: at least reconnect, you know what, the only family each 289 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: other has really So. 290 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you said your dad's beach Before we go, 291 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: I want to I want to hear some other perspectives 292 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: of their family members. You said your dad is a 293 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: beach bum. Does he have any care or any sort 294 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: of desire in the same way that you do to 295 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: reconnect with his sister? 296 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always been said that she doesn't talk to him, 297 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: but he's a I mean, I don't even talk to 298 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: him because he's so just kind of out there. He 299 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: made some really bad life choices. I mean, I talked 300 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: to him on his birthday, happy birthday. But I'm not 301 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna fly down to 302 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: see him all the time on the beach. And this 303 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: kind of like the state he's in, he's a ah. 304 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: He he was just kind of a negative person. So 305 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: being around him. It's very negative, always always negative. So 306 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, I try to avoid that as much as 307 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: I can. 308 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Is there anyone else in your like a fucking cousin, 309 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: your grandparents? You've been mentioning anyone else who's like sort 310 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: of in this with you? Or are you kind of 311 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: just doing this all alone? 312 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? My grandmother and my uncle. My grandmother's son, he 313 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: knows of her, but yeah, he kind of had a 314 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: falling out with my sister because she anyway, she had 315 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: some mental issues and she said some shit when she 316 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: was visiting my uncle about how she's gonna go crazy 317 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: because my uncle has the perfect family and she can't 318 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: stand it. Anyway. My uncle would also like to know 319 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: that she's okay, but she definitely doesn't want to talk 320 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: to my uncle. 321 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: So what happened with her and your uncle? 322 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get too long into it. 323 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: It's not it's not that interesting. It's just she was 324 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: visiting with me for Christmas. She's she had like this 325 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: mental breakdown about how my uncle has like a perfect family, 326 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: and then she had to leave early. She she took 327 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: a flight back early because she couldn't she couldn't cope 328 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: with my uncle and how nice their family situation is. 329 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Sure a little bit of jealousy, Yeah, yeah, Well it's 330 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: interesting to hear that. I don't know how long ago 331 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: this was, but it's interesting to hear that because you 332 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: can kind of tell from that that she's jealous of 333 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: your uncle having quote, a perfect family. I don't know 334 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: what your uncle's family is like, but you can kind 335 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: of tell that, like from that the family is important 336 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: to her. So, you know, I think it's it's a 337 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: cool thing you're doing because I I don't I we 338 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: I guess neither of us really have any idea what 339 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: her thoughts and feelings are about her family, about you, 340 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: about you know, sort of her her relationship to back home. 341 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: But she could be kind of waiting for you possibly 342 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: to find her, and it could turn out that when 343 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: you do find her, it'll mean a lot that you're 344 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: back in her life. And it's it's very compelling to 345 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: me to see you putting in all this effort, not 346 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: knowing how she feels about you, not knowing if when 347 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: you go to see her, if she'll want to see you, 348 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: and then answering to me when I asked you how 349 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: you would feel about that, it's going I would be 350 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: a static just to know that she's you know, safe 351 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: and doing well. So uh, this this is a very 352 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: much a display in my eyes of unconditional love and 353 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: caring and uh, you know I respect it. Man. I 354 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: wish you good luck on your journey. Please call back 355 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: in if you don't think find anything. We'd love to 356 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: hear you. 357 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Don't think it's too creepy, man? 358 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: Do I think it's creepy? Could be creepy. I have 359 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: no idea. I'm just on the internet. 360 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, Geko, I appreciate it. 361 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: Have a good one, of course you as well. 362 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: You too, But. 363 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: That was Dan, Let's see is it creepy to stalk 364 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: your sister to see? 365 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: Well? 366 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: Look, intention is important, I think when you're judging people's actions. 367 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't agree with me. A lot 368 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: of people don't think attention is important. But I think 369 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: intention is important. And his intention is just to make 370 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: sure that she is safe. And it was interesting when 371 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: he meant into the uncle thing that she was jealous 372 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: of the fact that he had a family, Like you 373 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: can kind of ascertain by that that she, you know, 374 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: family is important to her. I'm thinking about my own sister. 375 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about if she dropped off the face of 376 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: the earth for five years, you know, would I do 377 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: the same? Would I compile a dossier and stalk her 378 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: with a private eye? And if I did it, would 379 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: that be creepy? Or would that come from a place 380 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: of this is my sister. She's the only family I have, 381 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: and I love her. I don't know. I don't know 382 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: if I'm the judge to say whether or not it's creepy. 383 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: But I hope he finds her, and I hope that 384 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: they have a good reconnection, hope that she's doing well. 385 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: And I thank you to Dan for sharing that story 386 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: with us. It is interesting that at the very end 387 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: of that call is when he kind of out of 388 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: left field said is a creepy, which means to him 389 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: And I understand why, because if you're compiling a dossier 390 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, look, if you're if you're scrolling 391 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: through some girls Instagram pictures and compiling them into a dossier, 392 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: does it matter if she's your sister? A part of 393 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: your brain is going, is this creepy? So I understand 394 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: why he uh maybe has that inkling in his mind, 395 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: But again, I think his intentions are are pure. He 396 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: wants to make sure that you know she's safe, especially 397 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: when he was describing all of those like mental health 398 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: issues that she had and potential drug problems and whatnot, 399 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: that he just wants to make sure she's safe. So 400 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: I think it's coming from a good place. Hello, Hello, 401 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: while hey, is this rom. 402 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: It is? How's it going? 403 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: How's it going? It's going decently? How is it going 404 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: with you? 405 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: Not too bad? I had a story for you, a story. 406 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: Give me the like, like the short version of it 407 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: for it? Actually, let's do a short version. What's the 408 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: short version? 409 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: So basically, I used to be a new model at 410 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 6: my college. And when I changed one day and put 411 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 6: my clothes back on after all done with all that stuff, 412 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: I was walking to my car, and when I sat 413 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: down in my car, I noticed there was a poop 414 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: in my pants. But I didn't have any like thing 415 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 6: really notifying that. I was like, oh, I need to 416 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 6: go to the bathroom. There's just like so don't it's 417 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: like someone else pooped my pants. 418 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: Somebody else pooped in your pants? Yeah, and where were 419 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: you your clothes while you were nude modeling? 420 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 6: It was like a storage closet that pretty much it 421 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: was like everyone had access to it, So it could 422 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 6: have been anyone. It could have been like the teacher 423 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 6: or the ta or one of the students. 424 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: And you are one hundred percent sure that somebody else 425 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: pooped in your pants. 426 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: It was literally. 427 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: It was almost like it showed up like extra dimensionally, 428 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 6: Like I I didn't feel it at all when I 429 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 6: was walking my car, but as soon as I sat down, 430 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 6: it just was completely wet down there. 431 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: It was all bad. 432 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 6: What was even worse was I had to clean it 433 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 6: up so pretty much instead of like having to walk 434 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 6: all the way back. I was like, maybe I have 435 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 6: some whites in my car, but I only had alcohol wipes. 436 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 6: And I don't know if you know this, that shit 437 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 6: really burns. You had alcohol wipes and you yeah, they're 438 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 6: like for a car, they're like for cleaning your car. 439 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, and you use them on your asshole. 440 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it burns a lot. 441 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: Now, what are your working theories on? Who might have 442 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: pooped in your pants? 443 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 6: So this happens like probably like two or three years ago, 444 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 6: and I've been thinking about it ever since. But my 445 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: theory is that it was most likely one of the 446 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: students or the ta because I was watching the teacher 447 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: the whole time and he didn't move. 448 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: Okay, there were a couple. 449 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: Couple, Yeah, there was a couple of people who I 450 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 6: thought were pretty suspicious looking that left like during the 451 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 6: actual session. So it was There's this one guy who 452 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 6: he had like some kind of like facial problems, Like 453 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 6: I think he was like a burden victim and it 454 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 6: kind of messed him up pretty bad. But I feel 455 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 6: like he thought that I was uncomfortable with him because 456 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 6: he would get he didn't he couldn't see very well, 457 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 6: so he had to get up like really really really 458 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 6: close to my nude body, and I it would make 459 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 6: anyone uncomfortable. So I feel like he possibly thought that 460 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 6: I was uncomfortable with him, So in retaliation, he pooped 461 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 6: my pants. 462 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: You think that this man? Okay, so this guy, he 463 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: was sort of hard of sight, and so he had 464 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: to get up closer to you, draw you, and he 465 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: thought You think that he thought that you thought that 466 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: you were uncomfortable, and so in retaliation for you being 467 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: uncomfortable with him staring at you, he pooped your pants. 468 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best of world. 469 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: Were there any animals loose in the studio by any chance? 470 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: Because over one hundred percent short than human feces. 471 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: This was definitely human. 472 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: It was very. 473 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 6: Running, It was running, there was a lot of There 474 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 6: was a lot of it. I didn't see any animals. 475 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: But when you first went to put your pants back on, 476 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: how did you not know that thought there was pooping there? 477 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: You didn't see it, you didn't feel it. 478 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 6: I didn't feel it or to see it. I literally 479 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 6: just put it all in there, and by the time 480 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 6: that I had walked out of the building, crossing whole 481 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: parking lot and sat down, that's when I noticed it. 482 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 2: How do you think this will affect your nude modeling 483 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: career from now on? You're going to keep a closer 484 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: watch on your clothes when you take them off. 485 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 6: I definitely will. I thought about doing it again, but 486 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 6: this has always kind of haunted me. I was afraid 487 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 6: if I ever started up again that I'd literally just 488 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 6: get pooped on again. 489 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this would definitely affect my decisions on where to 490 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 2: place my clothes and how far to place them out 491 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: of my sight in the future. And hm, so you 492 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: really don't know who did? 493 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: I really don't know. There's like a couple people who 494 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 6: I'm suspicious of. But it happened so long ago. I 495 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: can't really to do anything about it now, but I 496 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: just the story always comes up in my brain and I. 497 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Thought i'd share it. 498 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the 499 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: people of the computer. 500 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: Uh, definitely watch where you put your clothes. You never 501 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 6: know when someone might poop in them. 502 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. 503 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. 504 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: I would like to say, I am not convinced that 505 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: that guy did not poop his own pants and is 506 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: in the most extreme amount of denial of all time. 507 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: But who knows. 508 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: Hello, Raquel, Oh shit, hey, I just got put in 509 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: the queue. 510 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: I was like, what kil. 511 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: That's going very well. I just left the grocery store 512 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: and I'm heading home. I got some free holes, negros 513 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: and Rabbi. 514 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 5: And a line and a lime wonderful and a lime Yeah. 515 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: Raquel, what yeah would you like to talk about today? 516 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: Well? I uh have a current boyfriend who. 517 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 7: Really enjoys bucacky porn and a lot of weird stuff 518 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 7: I've found in his like search history, and uh, I 519 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 7: don't know how to feel about it. 520 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Basically original off the bat, off the actually not go ahead, 521 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: I want to hear the rest of what you had 522 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: to say, and then I'll then I'll attack you with 523 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: my questions. 524 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: Well, originally I was very disturbed in know, kind of confused, 525 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm really trying to come to terms 526 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: with it. 527 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: M Okay, all right, So you found bucacka porn is 528 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: uh in his search history? Was there anything else that 529 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: you found that you were disturbed by him? 530 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: It was just a lot of spit and just it's 531 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: just very like gang bangs and just really gross stuff, man, 532 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: really gross stuff. 533 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: All right, Raquel, I gotta ask you. You gotta come 534 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: clean with me here. You gotta be honest with me here. 535 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: Why were you looking through your man's search history? 536 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay? I found him jerking off in his car on 537 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: his laptop and he quickly like shut it and like 538 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: put it away. And I was very suspicious, like why 539 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: he felt the Well I understand why he felt the 540 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: need to do it in this car, because he probably 541 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: knew that I would, you know, be uncomfortable with it. 542 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: But it made me even more like curious. 543 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you guys live together? 544 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: Yes? 545 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: So you guys lived together. So he went down to 546 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: his garage to watch. 547 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: This this his car like outside in the parking lot. 548 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So he went into his car to jack off 549 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: to this porn that he knew that you wouldn't want 550 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: him to watch, and so you got on his laptop 551 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: and looked at his search history. Yes, I mean, I'll 552 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: give you my take right away. I don't think you 553 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: should have looked at his search history. I don't think 554 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: that's cool. Okay, you know, I think that if you, guys, 555 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: if you're in a relationship with someone, whether you're your friend, 556 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever it is, it's not cool 557 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: to look through their phone. It's not cool to look 558 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: through their Internet search history. 559 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: You know. 560 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: It's I think that was pretty you know, I think 561 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: you sound like you know it too. That was a 562 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: violation of privacy. 563 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that was cool. 564 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: But we're here, the evidence has been gathered. Anyway, Why 565 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: are you so upset with the fact that he likes 566 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: POCOCKI porn. Why is that a big issue for you? 567 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 7: It just feels like. 568 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: Too much of like a it feels like it's offensive, 569 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: like towards women in a way, Like I feel like 570 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: the way that he's used women is kind of skewed, 571 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: and like it's just like they're kind of crying and 572 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: they're throwing up and I just okay, actually, let me 573 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: get deeper into this. 574 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 575 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 3: So I had an ex. I had an ex who 576 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: was a Buddhist monk, and I adopted a. 577 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Lot of. 578 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: Beliefs, conservative beliefs in regards to porn and substances and 579 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: having to kind of like withhold yourself and those kinds 580 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: of things. And at the beginning of my relationship with 581 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 3: my ex, he was really into kind of weird porn. 582 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: And when he stopped and withheld himself in those things, 583 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: his mental health greatly improved. Our sexual life got a 584 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: lot better. And I just adopted a lot of I 585 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: guess conservative spiritual belief because of him. M And I'm 586 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: trying not to project that onto my current boyfriend, because 587 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: I've come to understand that everyone, you. 588 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: Know, because I mean, look, you're bringing up your ex 589 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: right You're bringing up your ex right now. Is like, 590 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: you know, look, you're with this new guy now. You know, 591 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: you were with your ex boyfriend and now he's your 592 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: ex boyfriend. Now you're with this guy, you know, And 593 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: so I don't think it's fair for your relationship for 594 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: you to be bringing up your ex and sort of things. 595 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: Going him and then recontextualize. Yeah, for your current relationship. 596 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: It's more like I just adopted a lot of I 597 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: guess Buddhists beliefs, and I'm just trying to come to 598 00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: terms with. 599 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 5: His lack of them. I guess. 600 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Have you talked to 601 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: your boyfriend about all of this? What was that conversation? 602 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 7: Like, I mean, he. 603 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: Doesn't like it either. He says he has a love 604 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: hate relationship with it, and he agrees that you know, 605 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: he does need to, you know, stop watching it as much. 606 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 3: And he says it like Mesis's brain up. So okay, 607 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: I mean he probably still does it a lot, But 608 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I stopped looking through his stuff. Well 609 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: when the first time I look through it traumatized, I'm 610 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: not doing that again. 611 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you know, look, we've already established 612 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: and I think you know that you really shouldn't be 613 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: looking through your significant other's phone and emails and search 614 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: history and all that shit. It's good that you talked 615 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: with him about it, because you know he should be 616 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: in on the conversation. 617 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, So. 618 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: Why again are you bringing up your ex boyfriend who's 619 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: a monk? 620 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean we had a He left me with 621 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: a lot of books, Buddhist books and texts before he left, 622 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: and I mean I became Buddhist myself for a while, 623 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 3: I kind of put that aside just because I realized 624 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: it was kind of close minded. So this whole journey 625 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: kind of coming out of being more fluid in my 626 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: belief I guess this is just a hurdle, you know, 627 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: in my path, just trying to get come to terms with. 628 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you feel as though your boyfriend has exhibited 629 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 2: behavior or thoughts or things along that realm that disagree 630 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: with your Buddhist beliefs, and that's why you're bringing. 631 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: It up for sure? 632 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 6: For sure? 633 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: Okay, how important are your Buddhist beliefs to you? 634 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 3: I think they're very important because I've learned a lot 635 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 3: from them. But I realized that it kind of made 636 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: me a more judgmental person. Sure, So yeah, I'm they 637 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: were really important to me at a time, but I'm 638 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: trying to kind of move out of that and become 639 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 3: more open minded. 640 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I have a couple thoughts about this. 641 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: So you say it's made you a more judgmental person. 642 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, you look at your boyfriend and you're like, 643 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: this guy does not share the same set of beliefs 644 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 2: as I do. And you know, I think there's a 645 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: difference between using your beliefs as a way of judging 646 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 2: your boyfriend or looking down upon him or villainizing him, 647 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 2: or versus simply just saying, you know, perhaps we share 648 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: different beliefs and that's okay, and you know, kind of 649 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: reconciling with that. So you know, I agree with you. You know, 650 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: when you're saying that it's making you more judgmental. I 651 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: think that it's okay to have certain beliefs that you 652 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: live by and that you used to see if you're 653 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: compatible with other people, and that you use to kind 654 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: of bond you together with other people who share similar beliefs, 655 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 2: as long as you kind of take the judgment out 656 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: of it when you encounter people who don't share those 657 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: beliefs with you. Does that make sense? 658 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes total sense. 659 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: I I how long you've been in your boyfriend? For? 660 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 3: Two years? 661 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: Two years? Okay? All right, So look this is one 662 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: sort of little thing. It seems okay, your boyfriend likes 663 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: bocock porn. How's everything else going in the relationship? 664 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, he's just shut up it's going well. He's 665 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 3: trying to get my car. Uh, it's so well, it's 666 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: going really well. I let him in my car. 667 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: Should you you're asking me if you should let him 668 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: in your car. I don't know. 669 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 3: If he's up, I'll let him in one with the gecko. Yeah. 670 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: Can I talk to him? 671 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yeah, you can talk to him. 672 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 2: Should I not mention anything about. 673 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 5: Oh my god? 674 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: He just laught no, because I told I told him 675 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: that I would talk to you about it. I told him. 676 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: And and and how did he react when you told him? 677 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: How did he react when you told him you would 678 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: talk to me about this? 679 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 6: How did he just react? 680 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 681 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 3: Uh, he's shocked, he's blushing and he's staring at me. 682 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: Okay, is he with you right now? 683 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 3: Yes, he just came in my car. 684 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, do hang up, don't hang up speaking, I'm 685 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 4: on speaking. 686 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, hello, Hey, what's up? 687 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: Man? Yeah? What up? 688 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: What's your life like? 689 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: Chaotic? 690 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: Why is it chaotic? 691 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 8: I just feel like I wasn't set up well from 692 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 8: the beginning. Okay, And and learning how to create it 693 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 8: yourself just takes time. 694 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: Like what do you create? What you want? What are 695 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: you attempting? To create for yourself. 696 00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 8: Something more stable. 697 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 2: Okay, do you feel as though your situation currently is 698 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 2: stable at all? 699 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 8: I would not say so. 700 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: No, What do you think would make it more stable? 701 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 8: I don't know where to start, you know, because the 702 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 8: way I look at things, it's like a like a table. Yeah, 703 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 8: and my focus is shifting to all these different things 704 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 8: on the table, but I see all of them at 705 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 8: the same time. However, if my focus goes goes too 706 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 8: far into one thing, then I lose. 707 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 6: Side of everything else. 708 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: What is your focus mainly be going into lately? 709 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 6: Mainly bullshit, to be honest, kind of bullshit. 710 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of weed. 711 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: Okay, like. 712 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 8: Video games which I haven't played in like years, and 713 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 8: now I'm just like getting back into it. I don't know. 714 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: I feel like. 715 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 8: I feel like I'm not I know where I'm going 716 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 8: and and I have faith and myself, I guess like 717 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know what else to have faith in. 718 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 2: What is your relationship like with your girlfriend? 719 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 8: It's uh, up and down, Yeah, it's. 720 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,959 Speaker 2: Up and down. 721 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 722 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 8: It's like sometimes we're the exact same person and then 723 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 8: sometimes we're two different people. 724 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: What do you think you guys differ. 725 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 8: On probably our motivations. 726 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: What motivates you and what motivates her. 727 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 8: I don't necessarily know what motivates me. It's kind of 728 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 8: a feeling. It's like, it's like I feel like, you know, 729 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 8: I'm capable of anything, but you know. 730 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: For good. 731 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 8: Also, you know, everything has an opposite. But I feel 732 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 8: like I can literally do anything I want, but I 733 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 8: also hold myself back from that. So what motivates me 734 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 8: is a feeling. 735 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: What motivates you is a. 736 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 8: Feeling m that I have everything that I want. 737 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 738 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 8: It's like I already have everything that I want and 739 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 8: that's what keeps me going. 740 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: What do you believe it is that motivates your girlfriend? 741 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 8: You know, I don't know, because there's a lot, there's 742 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 8: a lot. 743 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 2: Can I talk to her real quick? 744 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 745 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 6: For sure? Hello. 746 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Your boyfriend is telling me that he feels 747 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: like you guys have two different motivations. 748 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 749 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: Wow, what do you think your two different motivations are? 750 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think I don't know why you 751 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 4: would say that. I feel like we both want we 752 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 4: both have similar motivations, like we both feel like we 753 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 4: can achieve greatness in a sense and that we both 754 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 4: have a deep purpose that we're both trying to find, 755 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 4: and that's what motivates us, is that we know that 756 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 4: we're important to this world in some way. 757 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if he can he hear me 758 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: right now if I talk, Yeah, I can hear you. 759 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: What I get from both of you, guys, is that 760 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: I can tell both of you, regardless of the actual methods, 761 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: regardless of the how. The how is not important, but 762 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 2: the what you guys seem to be on the same 763 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 2: level of which is that both of you are interested 764 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 2: in improving yourselves and aspiring higher Neither of you seem 765 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: to be very complacent. You're both interested in becoming better people. 766 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 2: Would you both agree on that? Sure? 767 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're. 768 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: So. 769 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: I think that while I don't know how you guys 770 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 2: differ in your approach to becoming better people, or even 771 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: if you agree on what your definition of being a 772 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 2: better person is, you both have that aspiration to become 773 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: better people, and maybe together you can kind of both 774 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: having the same what, both having that same goal of 775 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: becoming a better person. Maybe together you help each other 776 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: figure out the how of achieving that goal, and that 777 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: is something that brings you too closer together. 778 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 4: This is making me emotional. 779 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? 780 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 781 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 4: You're like the first person who's ever said that. I 782 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 4: don't know. I feel like everyone in our lives like 783 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 4: a against us being. 784 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 5: Together just because we are different and we do. 785 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 4: Have different ways of doing things. 786 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 5: But the way you said that. 787 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 4: That was beautiful. 788 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: What's your boyfriend's name, Elijah? What do you think about that? Elijah? 789 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 6: I don't know what to say right now. Yeah, I 790 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 6: don't know what to say. 791 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 2: Why do people say that you guys shouldn't be together? 792 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: They've always said that. 793 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: Why do you think they say that? 794 00:50:54,120 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 8: I don't know why because their opinionated? Because everyone has 795 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 8: their own opinions. Sure, I mean they're entitled to that, 796 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 8: but but who am I to care about someone else's 797 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 8: opinion because in the end, like like, I'm not going 798 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 8: to be with them in the end anyway, So what's 799 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 8: it to me to listen to someone else? 800 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: You sound like you do with those people? 801 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. 802 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 6: They just never saw what I. 803 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 2: Saw, sure, And you know, it's interesting because even though 804 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 2: maybe you guys do differ on like I said, the 805 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 2: how that almost to me is a good thing because 806 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: it means that you have things to learn from each other. 807 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 2: You know, if both of you had the exact same 808 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 2: philosophies on how to become a better person, and then 809 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 2: there would almost be no reason for you two to 810 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 2: be in each other's lives because you wouldn't be adding anything. 811 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: Whereas if you both have different perspectives on this, you're 812 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: both gaining something from each other toward uh, your common goal. 813 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 6: So I actually you're on another level. 814 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 7: I didn't even know that. 815 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 4: No, the get is focus. 816 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 3: Fuck, that's why I listened to him all the time. 817 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm so, how do you guys feel about all of that? 818 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 7: Yeah? 819 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 8: I knew what you I already knew what you had 820 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 8: to say. 821 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 4: I knew that calling in would give me some sort 822 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 4: of insight. I did kind of call for a weird reason, 823 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 4: but the underlying reason was trying to figure out I guess, 824 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: like I guess, how to come to terms with his differences. 825 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 4: And you answered that question beautifully. 826 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 2: And thank you for that, of course, Thank you guys 827 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 2: for calling. Is there anything uh that you want to 828 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: say to each other before we go? 829 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 9: Yeah? Thank you? 830 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: Alright, what did you say? 831 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: I said? 832 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 8: I think silence speaks more than words. 833 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 2: Uh, well, thank you guys very much for calling us, 834 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 2: or anything you want to say to the people of 835 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 2: the computer before we go. 836 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 5: Just send love to everyone and do your best to 837 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 5: try to understand peopleeople who are different than you and 838 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 5: send them as much compassion and love as you can. 839 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 2: Elijah, what do you gotta say? People? 840 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 8: Much love and have a blessed have a blessed day, 841 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 8: and and grace on your journey. 842 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for talking to you guys. Have 843 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 2: a good rest of the night, you too, m hm, Okay, 844 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 2: what all right? Thoughts? Thoughts? Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts. 845 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: That was an interesting one. That was intense. You could 846 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: cut that tension with a knife. Uh, couldn't get a 847 00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 2: great read on Elijah. Elijah was a strong but silent type, 848 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 2: but you could. He kind of revealed his passion to 849 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 2: us when he was going on his thing about how 850 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't care about other people's opinions about why him 851 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 2: and his girlfriend shouldn't be together, and that kind of 852 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 2: revealed his thoughts on his relationship, which is that he 853 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: does think that him and his girlfriend should be together. 854 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: Let's see, I was talking about they have a common 855 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 2: what they both were interested in self improvement. You know, 856 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 2: Raquel was bringing up all this Buddhist stuff, and you know, 857 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: she got into it because she's searching for some kind 858 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 2: of higher meaning or higher whatever as a person and God, 859 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: when I talk, you could tell when I first started 860 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 2: talking to Elijah, he like he wasn't there to bullshit, 861 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: He wasn't there to play a little games with me. 862 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: He was he got into it immediately. He got into 863 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: it immediately, talking about Fuck what was he talking about? 864 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: I just remember he was talking about, you know, ways 865 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: that he wanted to improve himself, and that was like, 866 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 2: that was these guys' through line. They just disagreed about 867 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 2: how to do it because she had a little bit 868 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: of this I guess you could call it baggage with 869 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 2: this whole Buddhist philosophy thing, but she was kind of 870 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: trying to get away from it, and he was a 871 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 2: little bit trapped in himself and he was trying to 872 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: get away from that. And you know, I meant what 873 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: I said, hopefully they can kind of help each other 874 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 2: become better people, because that's kind of what being in 875 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 2: a relationship is about. 876 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 3: Right. 877 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 2: Not that I've a lot of experience to draw on, 878 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 2: but you have other people in your life, so they 879 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 2: can show you things that you weren't able to get 880 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 2: to yourself. So I think it's a good thing. And 881 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: I am a gecko on the internet. We did it. 882 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 2: There Be Can goes on the line taking your phone 883 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: calls every night. The RepA goes to a his ride's 884 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 2: teaching you cloud in the middle of your life, but 885 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 2: he's not really an expert.