WEBVTT - Techstuff Classic: Eureka Archimedes 

0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.680
<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works in love all things tech, and it's

0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.079
<v Speaker 1>time for another classic episode of tech Stuff. This episode

0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:30.240
<v Speaker 1>originally published way back in June two thousand and eleven.

0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We had only just invented technology. That's a lie, and

0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll know why that's a lie because in this episode

0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:44.479
<v Speaker 1>we talked about ancient technology. This episode is titled Eureka Archimedes,

0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in which I am my co host Chris Palette. At

0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the time, we we look into Archimedes and the supposed

0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.160
<v Speaker 1>inventions he created during his lifetime, some of which we

0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think are probably apocryphal. But it was a fun at

0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sisode where we really researched historical tech. I hope you

0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.360
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. In the past, we have talked about many

0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fascinating people in tech um, most of whom lived in

0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.839
<v Speaker 1>the twenty and twenty one centuries. Today, we're going back

0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a bit farther, Yeah, to the point of of two

0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.760
<v Speaker 1>eight seven b C would be the the year that

0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>this fellow was born, and we are talking about Archimedes. Yes,

0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the developer of the t R S A D. I'm kidding,

0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely a precursor to that. Um. Yes, we're not

0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:38.760
<v Speaker 1>talking Texas instruments, we're talking Greek ones. So Archimedes was

0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a mathematician, he was an astronomer, he was an engineer

0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and inventor. Very clever fellow, I guess that would probably

0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>an understatement. Oh, yes, one of the fathers of calculus,

0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:56.080
<v Speaker 1>not not the calculus that we used today, but precursor again. Um, well,

0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.240
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about it a lot in in the past

0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>two We've talked about the principle simultaneous discovery, where people

0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.120
<v Speaker 1>more than one person comes up with the same idea.

0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.080
<v Speaker 1>We've also talked about how people to have discoveries build

0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on other people's work. And Archimedes was definitely a founder

0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of many, many of our technologies. Yeah, you would call

0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.600
<v Speaker 1>him the father of integral calculus. Not not the same

0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.919
<v Speaker 1>thing as neutronian calculus um, which is of course much

0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>later on. So and and Chris has already made mention

0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of one of the famous quotes attributed to Archimedes, which is,

0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.440
<v Speaker 1>give me a place to stand, and I will move

0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the earth and it sounds like something that a megalomaniacal

0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.320
<v Speaker 1>supervillain would say. But in this case, Archimedes is talking

0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.680
<v Speaker 1>about the discoveries he made and what we would call

0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:49.200
<v Speaker 1>basic mechanical structures now, things like pulleys and levers. In

0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that case, we're talking specifically about leavers. But our Comedes

0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.240
<v Speaker 1>really was interested in the relationship of pulleys leavers and

0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.280
<v Speaker 1>how they could be used to do work. And um,

0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.320
<v Speaker 1>he spent quite a bit of time perfecting that, so

0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>much so that there are certain inventions that are are

0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>associated with him that are related in some form to

0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.520
<v Speaker 1>simple machines, although not all of those inventions are necessarily

0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.760
<v Speaker 1>straight from uh, from archimedes brain. But we're gonna talk

0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about some of the things that he

0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.840
<v Speaker 1>did do, and then some of the things that are

0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.919
<v Speaker 1>attributed to him that perhaps he did not do or

0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.520
<v Speaker 1>perhaps just didn't work. There's one in particular that's pretty

0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.200
<v Speaker 1>famous due to a MythBusters episode that we'll get to.

0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.760
<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorites. Actually. Now Archimedes. Archimedes his

0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.720
<v Speaker 1>dad was an astronomer, so he was growing up and

0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he was exposed to the sciences. Um, he was probably

0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:49.360
<v Speaker 1>taught by followers of Euclid, and uh he was. You know,

0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.720
<v Speaker 1>what we know of him is mostly from stuff that

0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was written well after his death, and because of that

0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.520
<v Speaker 1>we can't be completely certain about the details of his life.

0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.440
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's still confusion about exactly when he died.

0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It was sometime around two hundred twelve or two hundred

0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.280
<v Speaker 1>eleven b C. And I was born in two eight

0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.080
<v Speaker 1>seven b C. Remember we count backwards, right, probably confuse

0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the heck out of them at the time. What are

0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>we coming down to? So yeah, so, so he died

0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.960
<v Speaker 1>around two twelve to eleven b C. And you might ask, well,

0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:26.520
<v Speaker 1>how did Archimedes die? How did Archimedes die violently? Unfortunately,

0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it was during a sacking of Syracuse, which is that

0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>was archimedes home. He lived in Syracuse, in Sicily, and

0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.559
<v Speaker 1>at the time it was an independent Greek city state

0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.440
<v Speaker 1>before it was you know, physically uprooted and moved to

0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:45.720
<v Speaker 1>New York. Yes, no, yes, not how exactly what happened? No, no, now,

0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the original original Syracuse. So, so in the Romans were

0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:56.000
<v Speaker 1>in a war with It was a Roman Carthin Carthaginian war.

0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Says Carthage and Rome are in a war with each

0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.479
<v Speaker 1>other in Syracuse got pulled into the middle of that,

0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.600
<v Speaker 1>despite attempts to kind of sort of not do that,

0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.400
<v Speaker 1>but various rulers of Syracuse ended up siding with either

0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Rome or Carthage during the the the whole conflict, and

0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.520
<v Speaker 1>at one point in the war, Rome besieged Syracuse, and

0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.280
<v Speaker 1>during the attack a Roman soldier came upon Archimedes, and

0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.840
<v Speaker 1>although there were specific orders to spare the life of Archimedes,

0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the Roman soldier killed him, apparently not knowing the identity

0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of the man he put to the sword. So our

0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Comedes was he was valued by both sides. He was

0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.679
<v Speaker 1>recognized as a genius, and neither side wanted this genius

0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to be destroyed. But as an unfortunate side effect of war,

0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:49.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes accidents happened. Now why was why did people consider

0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.279
<v Speaker 1>him a genius? Well, one was that he was making

0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:57.000
<v Speaker 1>incredible contributions to mathematics. He had found really interesting relationships

0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.400
<v Speaker 1>between things like the volume of the sphere and the

0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.839
<v Speaker 1>surface of cylinders, and found out interesting ways to to

0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of explain those relationships, including a very close approximation

0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of pie. Um pie. We've lost him, haven't had breakfast yet?

0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Um so he was definitely valued for his intelligence, but

0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.680
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, he also was this great inventor. In fact,

0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.480
<v Speaker 1>during the war, during the siege on Syracuse, he came

0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.760
<v Speaker 1>up with an invention known as the iron hand that

0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.799
<v Speaker 1>played a big part in the defense of the city.

0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you come across the iron hand? Actually I did

0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.040
<v Speaker 1>not come across the iron hand. This is different from

0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the iron fist. Yeah, I guess the one is used

0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.080
<v Speaker 1>for defense. The other one you rule with that. It

0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.839
<v Speaker 1>was also sometimes called archimedes claw. Um, it's a it's

0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a brilliant, brilliant defense mechanism for that time. It would

0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.800
<v Speaker 1>not work today. But here's what here's what it was.

0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:01.320
<v Speaker 1>So Syracuse was um, right up against the like essentially

0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.240
<v Speaker 1>there was you know, a slight cliff and then you

0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.240
<v Speaker 1>had a city wall that that was I think twenty

0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.400
<v Speaker 1>seven kilometers long back when it stood. It doesn't stand anymore, um,

0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.480
<v Speaker 1>but it you know, then you it was essentially right

0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>up against the ocean. So one of the possible avenues

0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of attack was an attack by sea, which is what

0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the venues that Rome was interested in. So, uh,

0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the leader of Syricuse came to Archimedes and said, I

0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.600
<v Speaker 1>need a way to protect us while from these attacks

0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.600
<v Speaker 1>from the from the ocean. So what our communes came

0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.240
<v Speaker 1>up with was an enormous lever that you would mount

0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on the sides of the city walls. Are actually on

0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the top of the city walls. So you have this

0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:47.160
<v Speaker 1>huge lever that that extends out over the ocean. From

0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the end of the lever, you have a rope that

0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.840
<v Speaker 1>drops down and on the end of the rope is

0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a grappling hook. Now on the other end, the short

0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.520
<v Speaker 1>end of the lever, you put huge lead weights and

0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you first put them near the pivot points so that

0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the weight of the long part of the lever keeps

0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it level. All right. What you try to do is

0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you try and catch the bow of a ship, a

0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Roman ship with that grappling hook. Once you do, you

0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.440
<v Speaker 1>slide those weights back from the the the fulcrum there

0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to the very end of the short arm of the lever.

0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Now that weight is enough to push that end of

0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the lever down, meaning the long arm of the lever

0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.640
<v Speaker 1>goes up. That's the arm that, by the way, is

0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.200
<v Speaker 1>attached to the rope and the grappling hook. So you

0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.120
<v Speaker 1>literally pull the end of the Roman ship out of

0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the water. You then use the lever to shake the

0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Roman ship and eventually the grappling hook breaks off of it,

0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.240
<v Speaker 1>making the Roman ship fall again, either smashing against the

0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.840
<v Speaker 1>water or the rocks on the base of the cliffs.

0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.200
<v Speaker 1>That's brilliant, but extremely complicated. It seems like trying to

0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:59.960
<v Speaker 1>build the lever. Yeah, and however, was incredibly effective. Yeah,

0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.320
<v Speaker 1>so effective that Rome abandoned their sea based attacks. They

0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.840
<v Speaker 1>instead of instead of attacking Syracuse by see, what they

0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.000
<v Speaker 1>did was they set up a blockade further out in

0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the ocean where they're not going to get hit by

0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a grappling hook from the shore, and then they ended

0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:21.720
<v Speaker 1>up attacking by land and eventually sacked Syracuse. So while

0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the victory was a a a good one, I mean

0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it was, it was definitely a lauded victory, but it

0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.920
<v Speaker 1>was short lived because all they did was they changed

0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:40.120
<v Speaker 1>tactics and unfortunately the the iron hand was not as

0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.040
<v Speaker 1>good at defending against land based attacks were good at all. Now,

0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:50.160
<v Speaker 1>there were other theoretical weapons that some people say actually

0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.200
<v Speaker 1>were built and used against the Romans during this very

0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.760
<v Speaker 1>same siege. And uh, one of the one I was

0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about with MythBusters was the the Archimedes death A.

0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, you know what I'm talking about here, right right,

0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.880
<v Speaker 1>How he theoretically was able to uh set fire to

0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.959
<v Speaker 1>the sales, Yeah, to the sales or actual ships, yeah,

0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.240
<v Speaker 1>from a distance. The idea being that he designed a

0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.079
<v Speaker 1>device that would reflect and concentrate light from the sun

0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and direct it at ships, and it would be so

0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.040
<v Speaker 1>intense that it would be hot enough to to set

0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.319
<v Speaker 1>fire to at least the sales of the ship, if

0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.000
<v Speaker 1>not the actual ships themselves. Uh and and and at

0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.240
<v Speaker 1>least some of the reports it was uh said that

0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.200
<v Speaker 1>he used shields and he just polished the surface of

0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the metal shields and array them in a in a

0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.839
<v Speaker 1>shape that would direct the light. It's kind of very

0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.280
<v Speaker 1>concentrated way. So you have all these different shields that

0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.040
<v Speaker 1>are tilted just so so that the light that they

0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.479
<v Speaker 1>reflect all hits the same spot. Sort of like the

0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.120
<v Speaker 1>devices that you used to cook a hot dog or

0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.280
<v Speaker 1>something like that that you used to use a camp.

0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have your your mirror and you stick

0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.440
<v Speaker 1>your food there, and you know, the sunlight reflects off

0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the inside of the mirror, and except much much larger

0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff I used fire yeah, anyway, now that that

0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>actually isn't so far fetched in a way. I mean,

0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.920
<v Speaker 1>he really was interested in catoptrics, which I didn't know

0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:20.760
<v Speaker 1>was a word, so I'm trying to use it and

0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.280
<v Speaker 1>build it into my vocabulary that I don't know what

0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.839
<v Speaker 1>it is, so please tell me. Yes, Well, I actually

0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:30.240
<v Speaker 1>got that word from Britannica's profile on Archimedes um. It

0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is the the part of optics that works with the

0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:39.200
<v Speaker 1>reflection of light from mirrors from different types. They could

0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.959
<v Speaker 1>be flat or curved mirrors, but catoptrics is is that,

0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.839
<v Speaker 1>uh study, and he was particularly interested in it, so

0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like it was out of character for him

0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to be interested in something like that. But apparently it

0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:58.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't so much work well. On the MythBusters episode that

0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they made UM, the MythBusters used they they actually tried

0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to build one themselves and it didn't really work so well.

0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they set out a challenge to various groups

0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to try and build UM a working Archimedes death ray,

0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and they found some success, something where it was warm

0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.920
<v Speaker 1>enough where it could in theory set fire to maybe

0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the sales, but it would it took time, and you know,

0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.319
<v Speaker 1>you had to worry about it being the right time

0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of day for you to be able to do this,

0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.680
<v Speaker 1>And it would really depend on the ship being very

0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.800
<v Speaker 1>uh well complicit in the burning process, in the sense of,

0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.480
<v Speaker 1>if the ship's moving around a lot, then you have

0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to be able to move the ray so that it

0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.679
<v Speaker 1>stays on the same general area in order to keep

0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>increasing that temperature until it reaches the burning point. And

0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if the ship's moving, then you may not be able

0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to train the ray on that on that uh moving

0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.480
<v Speaker 1>target fast enough to be able to um to actually

0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.880
<v Speaker 1>get the temperature hot enough to for stuff to burn.

0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's even if it were an actual weapon, it

0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was necessarily an effective one, not like the not like

0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the the lever that he had designed, which was demonstrably effective,

0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.959
<v Speaker 1>effective enough to make the Romans change their tactics. Hey guys,

0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.679
<v Speaker 1>it's modern day, Jonathan, and I'm not talking about modern

0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.000
<v Speaker 1>day two thousand eleven Jonathan. This is two thousand eighteen, Jonathan.

0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so much wiser and thinner than two thousand eleven Jonathan.

0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm here to say I hope you're enjoying the episode,

0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's time for us to take a quick break

0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. Now, there are also other interesting

0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>inventions that we attribute to our committees, one of which

0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:48.680
<v Speaker 1>is that he probably did make were planetariums. Oh yes,

0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they were also called spheres at the time the Archimedes Spears,

0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was if you don't know what a planetarium is,

0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a planetarium is essentially a geo sent trick model of

0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.880
<v Speaker 1>what the uh, the stars and position of planets in

0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the Sun and the moon, what what it looks like

0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.240
<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of Earth. You know, it's a it's

0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.720
<v Speaker 1>an Earth based view of the the galaxies around us,

0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the universe essentially. And so Archimedes had apparently built one

0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of these, possibly that used interesting little gears to mimic

0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the motion of the planets and stars and constellations to

0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.920
<v Speaker 1>keep everything aligned properly and making the move the way

0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they actually do through the sky. And uh he built

0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these apparently, although both of them have

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.760
<v Speaker 1>been lost. There were other devices that have been recovered

0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.160
<v Speaker 1>since then from shipwrecks and things like that that may

0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:52.280
<v Speaker 1>either be an actual example of the spheres that Archimedes

0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.640
<v Speaker 1>himself built, or maybe built on the same principles that

0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes used when building his but that's that's one of

0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.360
<v Speaker 1>those things where we have we've heard the record of

0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.600
<v Speaker 1>him building these things, and he certainly had the intelligence

0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.280
<v Speaker 1>necessary to be able to design such a thing, we

0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>just don't have the physical proof of it. Um. Yeah.

0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>There was a treatise that he apparently wrote called the

0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.440
<v Speaker 1>sand Reckoner that had to do with um astronomy and

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:25.440
<v Speaker 1>his astronomical thought. He actually had had been able to

0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.840
<v Speaker 1>uh sort of using his tools of his time, he

0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was able to get an eye a reasonable idea of

0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the diameter of the sun, um, you know, through his

0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.120
<v Speaker 1>uh using instruments to observe this. And this is of

0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.080
<v Speaker 1>course long before people that we sort of associate with

0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:51.120
<v Speaker 1>um astronomy, you know, modern astronomy, people like Galileo UM.

0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.640
<v Speaker 1>You know. There he was really sort of in a

0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>groundbreaking category in this regard. But all there were others

0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who who worked with these princes bools to um. You know,

0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.080
<v Speaker 1>his work went into uh several others as well, but UM,

0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's sort of disappeared for a while. UM.

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And they were the kinds of things too that stood out,

0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.160
<v Speaker 1>people like Plutarch, the uh um you know, who wrote

0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.880
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit about the famous people of his time

0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:24.440
<v Speaker 1>categorized Archimedes work. Um, and he's you know, these things

0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.000
<v Speaker 1>were well enough documented that he was able to to

0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.280
<v Speaker 1>pull this out. So yeah, I'd like to talk about

0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:35.200
<v Speaker 1>another real quick legendary Archimedes moment. Okay, um, this would

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.200
<v Speaker 1>be another great quote to do with the bathtub. Yes,

0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.600
<v Speaker 1>it does. It has to do with the bathtub. So

0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this is again a possibly apocryphal story. In other words,

0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.280
<v Speaker 1>this this may not be true. In fact, I think

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of historians put this in the the realm

0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of legend for for many reasons, one of which is

0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that the solution Archimedes came up with was actually not

0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:03.640
<v Speaker 1>as not as difficult to to get to as you

0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.479
<v Speaker 1>would imagine. So in other words, it seems like it's

0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>too easy an answer for Archimedes is almost the argument here.

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But the the situation was that you had the King

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of Syracuse who had commissioned a a golden crown, and

0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.920
<v Speaker 1>this golden crown was made, but the king was suspicious

0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of the golden crown. He thought that perhaps the person

0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.480
<v Speaker 1>who made it actually used silver to make the crown

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and then coded it with gold in order to h

0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to cheat the king out of money. Essentially because silver

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.159
<v Speaker 1>was less precious than gold, and therefore by using gold

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.040
<v Speaker 1>silver in the crown, he could make it for for

0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.639
<v Speaker 1>less money than it would cost him to to gather

0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>all the materials and thus have a higher profit. So,

0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.479
<v Speaker 1>how do you figure out if it weighs the right

0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:00.560
<v Speaker 1>amount for a crown of that general size? Um, how

0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.520
<v Speaker 1>do you figure out whether or not silver was used? Well,

0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>silver doesn't weigh as much as gold does, so, in

0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.119
<v Speaker 1>other in other words, in order to make a silver

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>crown that would weigh the same amount as a gold crown,

0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you would have to add more silver. Right, So, if

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you had a cube of silver and a cube of

0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.560
<v Speaker 1>gold that were the exact same size, the gold would

0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.920
<v Speaker 1>weigh more. Yes, So in order to make the cube's

0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.959
<v Speaker 1>weigh the same, you would have to have a bigger

0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>cube of silver. Right. So that was that was what

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes came up with. He came up with this idea

0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of well, if I use the amount of gold that

0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it takes to create the weight of this crown, and

0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>just let's say this crown weighs let's just say ten pounds, Okay,

0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.720
<v Speaker 1>So for the our for argument's sake, this crown weighed

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>ten pounds. So what our community said, well, what if

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I get ten pounds of gold, and then I use

0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.959
<v Speaker 1>some way to determine the mass of that gold, and

0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.640
<v Speaker 1>then I use that same measurement for the crown. If

0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the measurements the same, then we can come to the

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>inclusion that the gold that is gold in the crown.

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:04.520
<v Speaker 1>If the if it's different, then we can say that

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a different material in here. So what he

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 1>did was he took a bath. Yes he did. So

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 1>this all has to do with the displacement of water

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>by putting the the And again we're just using this

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.120
<v Speaker 1>this measurement out of for for simplicity's sake. Putting ten

0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 1>pounds of gold in the bath, he sees how much

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.639
<v Speaker 1>water is displaced, how far that water is displaced in

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the bath, and then putting the crown in there, he

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>can see how much water is displaced from there, and

0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the the amount is different than he knows that the

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.719
<v Speaker 1>two materials are not the same. And supposedly he became

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.760
<v Speaker 1>so excited by this discovery that he ran out of

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 1>his home. Starkers, that's not a joke. That's part of

0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the legend. Know that that part is not what's cracking

0:19:54.600 --> 0:20:00.560
<v Speaker 1>up Starkers. He was naked as a blue jay down

0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the road. I'm turning into my uh my kin folk here.

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Um so anyway, yeah, completely nude, running down the street

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and screams out Eureka, which means I have found it.

0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Also is a quirky uh dramatic comedy on the Sci

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Fi Network, Yes it is, anyway, so Eureka. That's that's

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>where we get that. When when you have someone who

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>makes a discovering screams at Eureka, they are essentially paying

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>homage to our comedes. Which again, since this is a

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially apocryphal story, we might just be paying homage to

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a legend. Well, apparently that the bathtub part is what's

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>probably apocryphal, but the crown part apparently is true. Um,

0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they do. They do seem to feel, or at least

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.919
<v Speaker 1>Britannica does seems to feel that that that he was

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>asked to determine whether or not the crown was actually

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>gold apparently really did happen. Yeah, And and then you know,

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you would want somebody like Archimedes to do this because

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>he was thinking scientifically in this case, and the reason

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you might say, well, why don't they just scratched the

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>crown and see if they're silver under bite it like

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 1>your coin. Right. Well, the problem here was that the

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.399
<v Speaker 1>crown was considered to be almost a holy relic. It

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.439
<v Speaker 1>was because you're the kings of the Greeks were they

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 1>would trace their lineage back to gods, and so you

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't destroy the crown in any way because that was

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>an affront to the gods. So he had to find

0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:37.879
<v Speaker 1>a non destructive way to test this without, you know,

0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 1>without actually causing any sort of damage to the crown,

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:45.120
<v Speaker 1>which makes it way more difficult. Ha, there's just Jonathan

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and forty seven, yep, still doing them reruns,

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just here to tell you. In order for them to

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>keep me around here, I got to introduce you to

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:09.159
<v Speaker 1>some of our sponsors, so uh, enjoy. We have another

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 1>object that is attributed to Archimedes, although it's very possible

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that it actually predates his lifetime and it's just that

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he observed it and then was able to apply it elsewhere,

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 1>which is the Archimedes screw. Yes, you know, well, how

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 1>could it not be archimedes invention? It has his name

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>right there in the name. Well, yeah, McDonald's, isn't named

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 1>for somebody named McDonald, so you know there's a name.

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>A name is is a tricky thing sometimes, but yes,

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 1>he did. He did observe the principle that uh, you know,

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the hydrostatic principle using using the screw to raise water,

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>which sounds counterintuitive at first until you realize how this

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>is implemented. It's actually a screw that is, in general,

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the screw is encased in a two and then you

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 1>lay it in a at an angle whereof you know,

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>one end is raised at the top and the other

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>end goes into the water. So you've got one end

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that that descends into the water and you have one

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.679
<v Speaker 1>end that's above the water level. You start turning that

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>screw and what does is it scoops the water and

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the water travels up the screw just because of the

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>principle of the screw as you turn it within this tube.

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Now there's you know, you might have some leakage issues

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>where some of the water leaks back down to the

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>next level down, but as as soon as you start

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>turning that screw with a nice clip, eventually the water

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>starts coming to the surface and the the speed that

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 1>you turn the screw will counteract the leaking problem. And

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>since it's just leaking to the next level down, it

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>essentially becomes a non issue once you get to a

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>certain speed and you can actually lift water out of

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>out of a body of water that way. And this

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>was often used in Archimedes time to pull water from

0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>say a lake and put it into an irrigation system.

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>The Greeks and Romans were both very big on irrigation. Yes, indeed, um, yeah,

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>actually that reminds me of there's an infant toy that

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>has three or four little plastic balls and there's a

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>screw inside, and if you push down and it's encased

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>as you said, and not in a tube, it's actually

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of a it's not conical, but it does get

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>narrower at the top than it is at the bottom.

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And when you press down on the plunger in the center,

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>it makes the screw turn and the faster you push it,

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the higher the balls climb up the screw until you

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>stop and then they know spin back down. I mean

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, not hydro static, there's no water, and

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's the same kind of thing, and you

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>can sort of if you've seen that, that's you can

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of imagine that because it's you don't often see

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>an Archimedes screw in practice, although you you can see

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>them in practice if you were to go to certain

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>hydro electric plants, they would be used in practice in

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 1>reverse because then what you do is you you turn

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the If you happen to pour water on the top

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of the screw, it will make the screw turn. So

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, turning the screw will bring water to the top.

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>But if you pour water on the top of the screw,

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it makes the screw turn, so it's the reverse action. Well,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that means if you are able to position the screw

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.239
<v Speaker 1>so that a flow of water is constant on the

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>top of it, then the screw will keep turning. You

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>can make that screw to work. You can have that screw,

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>uh use, you can use it to drive a generator,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>an electric generator, and thus you can create electricity from water.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>That's just one way. I mean there are turbines as well.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not the only method of of using

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>water to drive an electric generator, but it is one way. Yeah,

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I was actually thinking of the Tesla turbine when you

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that um which is also a fascinating thing. We

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have an article on the website about that. As a

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, it's not using the same exact principle,

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's also a way of using water or to

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>uh to turn a turbine. That's not you know, something

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>what I would think of was typical. But anyway, I digress,

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And we again we should point out, I mean, we've

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it a couple of times, but it bears repeating

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that the the actual Archimedes screw. There are at least

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>some indications that this was being used in Egypt, UH,

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>well before Archimedes ever had his name attached to it. Yeah,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>completely by chance. UM. A few months ago, I was

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>reading the UH the Biography of Cleopatra by Stacy Schiff.

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>It's very popular there for a while, UM, and I

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>hadn't really read a lot about ancient Egypt. But he

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes was actually in contact with UH some of the

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>scientists in Alexandria, which at that time Alexandria and Egypt

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was probably the world center of learning, or at least

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the top UH centers of scholarship, you know,

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and he apparently was was in contact with them and

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>had spent some time in Egypt before he went to Syracuse.

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh so it is not at all unlikely, um that

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have you know that that he would have

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>had contact with those uh those scientists over there and

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 1>gotten some some cool ideas, you know. And he also

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was attributed with the creation of a game. Really yeah,

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 1>did you hear about stonemacheon or stomachion. I have heard

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>of it, but I didn't realize this was this was

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>related to our comedies. It's attributed to him. It's a

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a game that you play with these different shapes.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like having a puzzle in a way, like

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 1>these shapes if you if you put them all together

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>in one way, it will create essentially a square. But

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the idea is to use those shapes to create other

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>recognizable shapes. And it's really an exercise in creativity, like

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>seeing seeing the potential of geometry to build um shapes

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that are more organic, so things like you use them

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to build a tree or the example I saw was

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>an elephant um, which is kind of it's just kind

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of interesting. Is the idea that you have to use

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>all the shapes in the group to create a recognizable object,

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>an interesting object. And uh so that's also attributed to Archimedes.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>But again, this is another one of those attributions that

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>we can't be completely certain is accurate. It's just one

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of those. Another another interesting thing of something that Archimedes

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>may have had a hand in. Um, so shapes actually, yeah, um,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>looking for something, darn it? All right? Hang on, well,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>well you look and then we will pick up. All right,

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>speaking of shapes, Um, you know he was, he was

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>involved with many. He published a lot of his work,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and there there is an indication that he may have

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>had other work that he either didn't publish or that

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was later lost. Um. Again, there's been a lot of

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>time that has passed now since he is he has

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>left us. But um, one of the things we do

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>know that he was fascinated with shapes. Um. He was

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>able to, uh to figure out the surface area of

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a spear fear of radius R. You remember this back

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>from your mathematics classes. I have a vague memory of it. Yeah, yeah.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>S equals for pie r squared. Yeah, and the volume

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.959
<v Speaker 1>is two thirds of the cylinder in which it is inscribed.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>V equals four thirds pie r cubed. I have not

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>had to know those those formula and so long, but

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>they came back to me as soon as I saw that,

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and apparently, uh, he was so excited about this that

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this is actually, uh what his tomb was marked with. Yes,

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Salius Cicero owned his tomb which had been overgrown

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>with uh uh greenery, let's say, and um, probably about

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty years or so after he died,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and found that his uh, his tomb had been inscribed

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>with a a sphere or had been marked with a

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>sphere inscribed in a cylinder. And that's uh, I just

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>think that's fascinating. I mean, going back to what I

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>learned about geometry and um uh calculus, I think of

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>people who came much later than that, but you know,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in general, but Archimedes really had a huge influence on

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>many many other people. Of course, his writings were known

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to uh, to the Arabic world. A lot of a

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of scientists and mathematicians from that era in in

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>later centuries were able to take his work and build

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>upon it. Um, and it's just uh, it's just cool stuff.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>He also did a lot with with mathematics as it was,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, working on place value systems UM, and lots

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and lots of different things he wasn't he wasn't. Uh

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>he was, I would say, Polly mathic. Yes, you know

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody who is is um well has has knowledge in

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple areas, very knowledgeable about a variety of mathematical and

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>science topics, and we'll probably talk about other individuals who

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>fall into that category as well. Hi, it's Johnathan of

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen. Again, I don't know who that old

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>man was who came in here, but I hope you

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>guys enjoyed that classic episode of tech Stuff. It was

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun for us to research and do

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>something a little different from what we had been doing

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and I look forward to doing more

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of those in the future. In fact, I have plans

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to do one about Leonardo da Vinci, a true genius

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Renaissance who has a lot of interesting stories,

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>some apocryphal about him, and I hope to do an

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>episode about that in the near future. But if you

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>guys have any suggestions for topics I should cover on

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>future episodes of tech Stuff, send them my way. The

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>email address for the show is tech Stuff at how

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com, or draw me a line on

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Facebook or Twitter. The handle of both of those is

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>tex stuff hs W. You know, back in two thousand eleven,

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have a merchandise store, but we have one today.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Then you can visit it. It's t public dot com

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>slash tech stuff. Every purchase you make supports the show

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and we thank you for it. Go check that out

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and don't forget to follow us on Instagram. And that's

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it for me. I'll talk to you again really soon

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>for more on this and thousands of other topics, because

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it how stuff works dot com