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Speaker 1: The greatest trick that the media played on society is

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Speaker 1: that the fab Fire was some dumb Negroes that went

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Speaker 2: Like the biggest trick and we didn't have like social media.

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Speaker 3: I can say nothing.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on the Dan's List, and that treated

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Speaker 3: What up y'all? Joe Crack, the Dawn, Your Boy.

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Speaker 4: Jada Show, Every show, Legendary, every show, Iconic All Star

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: We got our brothers, God Sham Guard, Chilean Rolls.

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Speaker 4: Make some noise for them coming from where we come from.

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Speaker 4: If we love basketball, your one of There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of levels the basketball, but we all know, but being

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Speaker 4: the McDonald's All American.

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Speaker 5: Is probably one of them.

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Speaker 4: That's things you can accomplish of your career as a

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Speaker 4: high school kid.

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Speaker 5: On me playing amongst the grades. We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk to him about the film. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: have some fun today.

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Speaker 1: Is this a proper We're gonna open this at some

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Speaker 1: point now, we gotta open that ship up.

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Speaker 3: Is a lot to celebrate about.

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Speaker 1: So I just have to say this because this is

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Speaker 1: this is actually crazy. I think I'm the oldest person

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Speaker 1: up here here.

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Speaker 5: I'm older than you.

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Speaker 6: Cray, I tell you one day if you're older than me,

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Speaker 6: definitely using rewind the time that you want to box,

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Speaker 6: you said, Joe, I'm not ready for that.

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Speaker 3: You might as.

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Speaker 6: Well make money off the stuff, get higher in your

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Speaker 6: own supply.

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Speaker 3: I got a different wine ten in CBS Sally's Stop

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Speaker 3: and Shop.

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta I gotta plan, Joe. I got me

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Speaker 1: a couple of stuff that I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have.

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Speaker 1: I have a plan of working on beauty products and

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Speaker 1: stay tuned. That's why I got love for you. I

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Speaker 1: ain't know I I thought you was missing out. No,

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Speaker 1: but I have to say this. I really have to

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Speaker 1: say this, Like this is like real still, like I

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Speaker 1: love y'all. This ain't no Hollywood like friendship, relationship, kinship

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Speaker 1: like I've been in Miami at three in the morning

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Speaker 1: and he saved my life. Real talk, like I have

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Speaker 1: the Jada Kiss bust for the Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 1: he don't even have it because he gave it to me.

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Speaker 1: These are the only two people that I believe that

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Speaker 1: have a show that I'm on their show, and they've

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Speaker 1: both been on my show.

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Speaker 6: And that's a fact, right. You know, we got jerked

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Speaker 6: by Mellow. I did Mellow show me show that motherfucker

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Speaker 6: won't come.

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Speaker 3: To our ship. Curve.

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Speaker 5: He's curving us.

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Speaker 6: He's curving us in the home of the Turbans.

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Speaker 1: And so to see you guys doing your show, y'all

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Speaker 1: chilling it dog And this is.

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Speaker 3: Their first live show, Give it up on.

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Speaker 1: This is their first live show, Give.

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Speaker 3: It up on.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say this about you, Like the sham

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Speaker 1: guy move in basketball is the equivalent of like wearing Jordans,

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Speaker 1: like it really is, Like that's.

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Speaker 3: A real thing, and how you develop players.

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Speaker 1: You're an incredible coach and you've always stayed ten toes down,

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Speaker 1: like we love you, brother.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that love y'all.

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Speaker 7: You know, you know, everybody up here family with me,

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Speaker 7: Like Joe knew me when I was young. Me and

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Speaker 7: Kiss practically grew up together with the large children of

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Speaker 7: the corn They's camp and all of us. So me

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Speaker 7: and Kiss been down like since fifteen years old, fourteen

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Speaker 7: years old, knowing each other and hanging out and stuff

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Speaker 7: like that. So just to see, you know, their growth.

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Speaker 7: And then Joe's went from being a terror to everyone

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Speaker 7: to the stuff that he's doing now is amazing. And

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Speaker 7: like Joe, No, like he the first person.

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Speaker 3: I hit up. People don't even know the.

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Speaker 7: First person I told that JB was gonna be good

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Speaker 7: for his knicks. When he asked me, he said, Hey,

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Speaker 7: is Jaalen gonna be good? And I was like, I

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Speaker 7: I know Jalen is gonna be steady.

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Speaker 3: And he's gonna be consistent.

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Speaker 7: And my brother Jellen did way more than either one

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Speaker 7: of us could imagine, So you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Like me and Joe always had a relationship since I

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Speaker 7: was young. You know, Joe always did amazing things for

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Speaker 7: the hood and stood up against people in the hood.

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Speaker 7: So like there's always love. And like I said, kisses

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Speaker 7: my brother and roses, what can you say about him

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Speaker 7: in the fave far you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 7: like he got his own thing in Detroit like I

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Speaker 7: went to the NBA and did his thing and changed

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Speaker 7: the whole culture him and his five five brothers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So I have a Joe and Jada question because these

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Speaker 1: are my actual brothers, Joe, I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: a question, mister crack, when did you get nice?

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Speaker 3: Nice to want You're you're a nice human being now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bless god, You're a thoughtful you're intelligent, you're well dressed, Like,

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Speaker 1: why do believe?

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Speaker 6: I believe I was always a nice guy. I always

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Speaker 6: had a curton heart and everything. It's just we grew

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Speaker 6: up in such a tough environment growing up that you

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Speaker 6: had to be tough because you even with predator or

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Speaker 6: you was pray that refused to be pray. I was

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Speaker 6: bullied a lot when I was a young kid, so

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Speaker 6: I had to go into that. And then when I

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Speaker 6: got in the rap game, it was no fucking difference.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to disrespect hip hop, but it was

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Speaker 6: like you meet somebody like, all right, I want to

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Speaker 6: meet this rapper. This is my man. Two times a

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Speaker 6: mac he get double life, came home on an appield

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Speaker 6: like you Like, there ain't no bahds and masters in

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Speaker 6: hip hop. You just meet the craziest motherfuckers. This guy

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Speaker 6: killed forty six guys. He's my new road manager. So

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Speaker 6: you had no choice but to be tough in the

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Speaker 6: hip hop and so you know, this shit forced me.

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Speaker 6: But I always was looking for a way to be

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Speaker 6: nice and always be myself and at the beginning, I

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Speaker 6: ain't gonna lie to We were staying. If I fuck

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Speaker 6: with Jada kiss, if I fuck with fab, if I

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Speaker 6: fuck with Biggie, if I fuck, we would stand in

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Speaker 3: And just be like nobody here saying nothing like you

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Speaker 3: just looking at me.

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Speaker 6: Be like He'd be like, hey, thank god, now we

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Speaker 6: got we can show our personality and shit like that.

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Speaker 3: So for Jada, my other brother, it's not the chikh

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Speaker 3: Lutes and styles p brothers too.

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Speaker 1: Give me up lots like I love seeing people wearing

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Speaker 1: the shirt now, the hat now, because sometimes it takes

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Speaker 1: time for people to catch up. So I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you, top five d o a that's now doing

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Speaker 1: podcasting and expressing yourself about the industry and current events, Like,

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Speaker 1: what made you decide that this was the opportunity for

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Speaker 1: you to express yourself into space?

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Speaker 3: Great question?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I mean because y'all like top secret, Like the

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Speaker 1: locks are.

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Speaker 3: Like like a secret service. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Family, it's all about growth and in the state of

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Speaker 4: where the world is right now. People on the head,

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Speaker 4: authentic stories from people that lived it or people that

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Speaker 4: been through it, had in fact was supposed to do something.

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Speaker 4: He has a gold that didn't and fan out shout

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Speaker 4: out to.

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Speaker 1: The you gotta be mad as hell the people, and

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Speaker 1: your name is actually cracked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wasn't crack.

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Speaker 1: You know, I sold cracked, but it wasn't because I

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Speaker 1: sold a crowd, but normally, like he sham God because

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Speaker 1: of his handle, you're a crack, but I'm cracked because

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Speaker 1: the crack of my ass used to show.

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Speaker 3: And the girls that I'm telling you that me too. Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Hold, I stopped cussing like twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's some bs, Joe.

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Speaker 1: It's not because you stood up one time and you're

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Speaker 1: cracking your ass.

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Speaker 3: Are showing the class that is knowledge telling you that

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Speaker 3: is not you're telling me, but I saw you. That's

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Speaker 3: not the It's about Spike Lee.

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Speaker 6: I caught Spike Lee on a flight to LA and

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Speaker 6: I talked the hole in his head for six hours

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Speaker 6: because Spike changed my life.

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Speaker 3: Do you got any more flags? Yes? Better re up

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Speaker 3: might have to get TD Jakes on the show.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that we know why your nickname is cracked?

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Speaker 1: Do you realize that no, the Feds just win. I

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Speaker 1: was telling my bullshit story.

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Speaker 3: I okay.

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Speaker 6: So I convinced Spike Lee, you know, let me try

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Speaker 6: out for this show he has, She's got to have

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Speaker 6: it on Netflix. And and when I went to try out,

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Speaker 6: because you know, Spike Lee missed the pro blackness, the conscious,

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Speaker 6: he brought me in front of his whole staff. He

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Speaker 6: made me explain why my name was Crack. And I

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Speaker 6: was like, you know, I'm in junior high school. I've

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Speaker 6: always been fat, by the way, I always been fat

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Speaker 6: Joey since perf Okay, I've never been skinny in my life.

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Speaker 6: I've been fat Joey one years old, two years old,

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Speaker 6: three years They always been fat Joey. And so you know,

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Speaker 6: I would get up to go write something on the

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Speaker 1: The girls like Joey Crack. So that's how I got

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Speaker 1: the name Joey Krack. When I explained it, you could

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Speaker 1: see the whole staff. Spike Lee staff was like, ah right,

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Speaker 1: he consulted, yes, sold it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, double and tundra.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if you want to believe that, fine, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: We love y'all. Jen broy Man got the sharpest line.

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Speaker 6: I gotta go to Turkey to get some ship like

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Speaker 6: you got that fucking hen do that ship? That shit

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Speaker 6: a cut of mother like that? You catch a fucking

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Speaker 6: paper cut, you fuck with that ship. I'm gonna watching

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Speaker 6: that ship on TV. I said, man in there, got

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Speaker 6: the sharpest line I ever seen their fucking world.

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Speaker 5: How many cuts you get a week?

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Speaker 1: So the craziest thing for public assumption is I literally

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Speaker 1: just get a haircut before y'all see.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing special. Like I knew I was gonna be

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Speaker 3: got a haircut today.

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Speaker 1: You cannot get rid of that ball b I won't

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Speaker 1: the second you try.

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Speaker 3: I won't let me tell you something I say all

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Speaker 3: the time. I got a prompt. I have a serious problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm a shoper. Holly, what did I do now? Hight up?

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Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing.

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Speaker 3: I've seen that hand movement.

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Speaker 6: I'm already like, oh abuse, like I see the head

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Speaker 6: go up.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm getting the flag for no.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I like shopping and ship and I

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Speaker 6: the minnie you don't dress, they gonna say you fell

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Speaker 4: I got all the wrong letters, the wrong I got letters.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't right. Personal college. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, Juico awful.

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Speaker 6: Well, just like a ballplayer for y'all. You know, Yon

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Speaker 3: And then they just blew the fuck up. You know.

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Speaker 7: He was like, I'll work you out every day and

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Speaker 3: We would go to Coney Island.

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Speaker 7: His father would make him play with invisible basketball to

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Speaker 7: And then like and then he used always tell me, man,

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Speaker 7: But my thing for like Joe, is because I played

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Speaker 5: Tell them fifty fifth fish, because.

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Speaker 3: And I was like all right.

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Speaker 7: You know at this point, I never played basketball. I

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Speaker 6: Yes, oh no, that was legendary guys.

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Speaker 3: Y'all too young for that hit. Yeah, So I used

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Speaker 3: Be my eye. I don't care Malloy who like future,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so he was like for y'all, if y'all don't

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like what people don't understand.

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Speaker 7: Like I used to watch this guy named Sharon Anderson

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Speaker 7: And I was like, man, who the fuck do you

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Speaker 7: this tape called Below the Rim. Below the Rim, that's

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Speaker 7: what it was like. Vaha says. It's like Kevin Johnston,

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Speaker 7: And I'm like what, There's no way that could be you.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, why you didn't tell me you

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Speaker 7: played in the NBA. And he was like, oh, you

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Speaker 7: little kids just think you know everything. So I just

443
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Speaker 7: let and like, to this day, that's one of my

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Speaker 7: closest friends. But he the one that told me, like

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Speaker 7: he was like, if you master or something and you

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Speaker 7: do it for free, one day, the world will pay

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Speaker 7: you for it. So then we got an Insta tore

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Speaker 7: me in ninety seven. I was actually trying to do

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Speaker 7: another move, this move Kenny Anderson used to do. He

450
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Speaker 7: used to like go fast, change direction, throw it between

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Speaker 7: his legs, and what happened was the ball slipped. And

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Speaker 7: then the only thing I can remember is the dude

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Speaker 7: suran I used to grab the ball like that. And

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Speaker 7: then because I watched film a lot I used, I

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Speaker 7: went back to stay. I'm like, man, this thing, like, man,

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Speaker 7: that move could work. But then I still ain't think

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Speaker 7: nothing of it. And then I came home in the

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Speaker 7: shammed you. I'm like, what are you talking about? The

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Speaker 7: And then the next thing, you know, it just went

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Speaker 7: viral like that. And it's like one of the most

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Speaker 7: humbling feelings because I know everybody up here, anybody here,

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Speaker 7: if you work anywhere, you want to make it better

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Speaker 7: than how you found it. And for me, I get

468
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Speaker 7: to live in my inspiration every day because Mark Cuban,

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Speaker 7: So like when people say, like Russell Westbrook Chris Paul

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Speaker 7: doing the shamguard, and they're like, yeah, you know he's

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Speaker 7: sitting right there, he assistant coaching. So for me, that's

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Speaker 7: just amazing feeling because I know when I'm dead and gone,

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Speaker 7: I left basketball better than how I found it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, when the kid is ten years old, they would

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Speaker 3: learn how to do the shamguard.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm fried, right, I mean, I'm fucked up

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Speaker 3: Think the shit.

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Speaker 6: You know, I grew up in the world with you

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Speaker 6: When I seeing NBA players do the sh and god,

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Speaker 6: niggas jerking sham.

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Speaker 3: That's the ship.

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Speaker 6: I was dumb tight I'm watching them. It wasn't like

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Speaker 3: Like, Yo, that's fucked up. Man.

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Speaker 1: I looked at ship so different. I'm not a positive thinker.

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Speaker 3: Man. I looked at it. I was like, Yo, they

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what everybody said. Everybody be like, man, did

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Speaker 7: And I'm like I'm like nah. For me, it's like

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Speaker 3: But who was it?

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Speaker 6: There was one NBA player I was watching the game

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Speaker 7: When I see when I see Fat Joe at the

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Speaker 7: time being fat Joe, when I see jay Z at

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Speaker 7: like so like they gave me the inspiration because like

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Speaker 7: that I saw like rob and stealing this and that

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Speaker 7: not saying Uptown wasn't crazy. The Bronx wasn't crazy, but yeah,

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Speaker 7: but they also the thing that was different from Brooklyn

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Speaker 7: to jail, Jesus going to jail this and that, Like

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Speaker 7: That was like doing stuff that actually made money. So

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Speaker 7: it's like, So that's why, like even in my book

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Speaker 7: when I wrote, I'm like, you gotta be you gotta

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Speaker 7: be careful who you say, who's the hero and who's

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Speaker 3: Right, because I grew up with.

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Speaker 7: Drug was that when I became nice in basketball, pay

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Speaker 7: they're hero? Do I think they are a villain? You

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. I went to Providence. You know,

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Speaker 7: on him, talk to stuff to him. Nigga's a mass murderer.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Then, But he always told everybody, Yeah, everybody in the hood.

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Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, make sure Sham play ball, make

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Speaker 7: So those are people I grew up around, so it's

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Speaker 7: hard for me to always be like. So that's why

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Speaker 7: You can still say what you want, like with Kyrie,

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Speaker 7: you can still say what you want, but let me

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Speaker 7: help you. Because if the worst thing you could do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I say that about hip hop, so I don't

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659
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Speaker 3: Fuck the rappers. Jaden bigger than he said.

660
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: He said is a man is this little man lost

661
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 5: his son.

662
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 7: But it's it's just like, you know, like basketball and

663
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 7: rapping is like cousins, So like they come from the

664
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 7: most competitive place, right because you're still gonna have the

665
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 7: street guy that think he better than the guy that's

666
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 7: in the NBA, and then the NBA guy gonna be

667
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 7: like the street got to understand what it takes to

668
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 7: make it. So it's always going to be competition. It's

669
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 7: always going to be competitiveness. So that's why it gets confusion.

670
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 7: It's just like you said, when you went to the

671
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: club and you see other people, everybody face fighting, but

672
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 7: everybody in the same struggle, but nobody talking about it.

673
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 7: So they think they coming from two different places, and

674
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 7: they really not right. So that's why, like in Hall

675
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 7: of there's no person in Hall of that ever played

676
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 7: basketball that I haven't been in the gym with or

677
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 7: try to steer the right way, whether it worked or not.

678
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, I'm always here.

679
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 7: I'm always because because when I left school early out

680
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 7: of college, I wish I had somebody there for me

681
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 7: to be like, nah, just stay one more year, just

682
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 7: just hold on. You know, everything gonna be all right,

683
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 7: you know, what I'm saying. But where we come from.

684
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: If you got your mom made up it, everybody like,

685
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 7: oh man, that's what's something you should do it. Then

686
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 7: when it don't work, they're like, man, you was bugging anyway, bro,

687
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 7: I don't even know why you.

688
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: Did that ship, you know what I'm saying.

689
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 7: So it's like, you know we come from, especially like

690
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 7: jailing with the Fab five, They're like, if they had

691
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 7: in I L they had been rich before, then.

692
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: They owe them.

693
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you feel they owe them? They oh they

694
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 4: you know the world, the couple of millions, the world

695
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: they fed.

696
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't still actual to this day.

697
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 6: We at the U M game, the championship football joint

698
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: and they still like, do.

699
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: You think it's right that they Yeah, they it's right.

700
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: They got paid because these colleges been selling tickets, selling

701
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: jerseys and these kids ain't begetting shipping.

702
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: They've been like all right, guys, thank you.

703
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 6: And not only that, these jerseys stay Fab five, your

704
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 6: jersey's still selling.

705
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: Well.

706
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: The one thing about sports and money is and I've

707
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, so I'm not like interfering

708
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: with things that I have going on that I've been

709
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: talking about this for thirty years. The only sports to

710
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: have salary caps are black leg first off, but that's

711
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: basketball and football. Those are the only sports of salary caps. Baseball, Golf, NASCAR, Tennis,

712
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you can keep naming. They do not have a salary

713
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: That's the first holy shit is correct. The second thing

714
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: is they have no after high school restriction. And so

715
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that's a that's a residue of slavery. Is because we're

716
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna get money off of you for multiple years for free.

717
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: There's no way around it.

718
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: There's you how can we start? We got to start

719
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: the union.

720
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: They doing it now. They're getting paid now.

721
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: But he just made it finished.

722
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Yes, And so what happened in the game is it

723
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: became so obvious because of social media and because of information.

724
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: It's like we're making.

725
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: Billions of dollars. We gotta pam some.

726
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: That's how it ended up happening. And so for the player,

727
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: like you're an artist. You guys are artists.

728
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: We've been there. Bulls would win.

729
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: That's where That's where I'm going, Like I have a

730
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: rape and pilloge and no shots or no shade or.

731
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: Whatever like whatever.

732
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just like real spill, Like.

733
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: I have a free lock shirt, no doubt, Like I

734
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: have one that the locks. Yeah.

735
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: And what ends up happening in the entertainment is we're

736
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: the worker, we're the talent, but we're not the owner.

737
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing in sports that happened with

738
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: the NIL. So I'm happy to see players now getting

739
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: paid off of their name, image and likeness. But if

740
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: you notice, you still got to pay the system. Like

741
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: NFL players, you have to be three years removed from

742
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: high school to go to the NFL.

743
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize that got messed up.

744
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Correct, you can't go straight from the NFL after your

745
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: sophomore year. Correct, you have to wait three years so

746
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: the system can profit off you. It's the same thing

747
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: with basketball, like NBA players have shown Kobe Bryant, Kevin

748
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Garnett like that you can come out of high school

749
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: and be productive in the league, but they still don't

750
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: allow you to do it so that you can feed

751
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: the system and they can make money off of them.

752
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: And so I sit on the table about this for

753
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 3: a long time.

754
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: The third years and the greatest trick that the media

755
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: played on society is that the fab Fire was some

756
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: dumb negroes that went to Michigan.

757
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: That was I yeah, that was the that was like

758
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: the biggest trick, and we didn't have like social media.

759
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: I can say nothing.

760
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on the D's List and they're treated

761
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: me like I'm some dumby and I took that personal.

762
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: So I'm happy that they're allowed to be paid right now.

763
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: But if you notice the NBA got a salary cap,

764
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: NFL still got us out.

765
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: I never do that.

766
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: So that's how they say you love something new every day.

767
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: You can end Both of those sports are like seventy

768
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: eight percent black. You can name on one hand of

769
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: black owners. It's like, oh, you're Michael Jordan. You're one

770
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time, so you can be

771
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: an owner. Is there a black owner in the NFL.

772
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it exists. No, magic is partially right.

773
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah's different though, Yeah.

774
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: You got Dolf.

775
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 7: But you but you like but like to your point,

776
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 7: it's like I remember in twelfth grade, uh, me and

777
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 7: Steph we met with Spike Lee for he Got Game.

778
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 7: So a lot of people don't know, like it's based

779
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 7: on like part of steph life and then off my name.

780
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: He wanted to name the character.

781
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 7: Guard and he was like when he saw me playing Listyle,

782
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 7: he came up with the idea of like, oh, Jesus

783
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 7: show work because he wouldn't say God or whatever, and uh,

784
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 7: Me and Steph auditioned and then he was like, oh,

785
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: I'm go give you all a part. But he was

786
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 7: like the problem was if we took the role, we

787
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 7: couldn't we be n C double A ineligible because we're

788
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 7: just getting paid. So that's why Steph ain't even do

789
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 7: this own movie. And then and Ray Allen was going

790
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 7: to the NBA so he could do it. So that's

791
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 7: what people that don't don't know about, Like the whole

792
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: movie thing came about, you know, and Spike talk about

793
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 7: this is not me just saying and Spike talk about

794
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 7: how he saw me play a little style, and then

795
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 7: he got the idea of like he was like, man,

796
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 7: he got that name and he's good in basketball. And

797
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 7: then that's instead of using God, just Jesus show.

798
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to ask you, Kiss And

799
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't ask you Joe, because I see a lot

800
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: of like articles about streaming and how they're not doing

801
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: the artist justice per se, like the artists to say

802
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: we can have like a billion. This literally reminds me

803
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: of the NCAA and IM when I see this about artist,

804
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: it's like you can sell a billion streams that make

805
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: like fifty.

806
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: I don't even understand. I don't even know if they

807
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: made a book. I don't even know if there's anywhere

808
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: they just made up their own rules with sh am

809
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: I right room right, I don't know what.

810
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: The fuck they doing. I don't mean to bring up

811
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: a story topic, but this is how I felt. This

812
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: is how I felt.

813
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: If you go to any maybe maybe the higher ruption,

814
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: and you know, you're Gonnam barrass ivind Me and somebody

815
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: like that, and them type of people can explain it.

816
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: But I'm almost ninety seven percent sure if you just

817
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: ask any of your friends of the all the athletes,

818
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: and they're never gonna be even explain.

819
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: It's one of them that's crazy. So that that's the

820
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: equivalent of me playing at Michigan. And so now let's

821
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: pay for play. So Fad Jones a great high school player,

822
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: and he's gonna pick a school to go. Now they're

823
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: picking the highest bidder. Yeah, but most of the players

824
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: aren't selling goods. That's called pay for play. So what

825
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: made us. Different is we would have been selling a

826
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: rachie black black socks or like like we were jerseys,

827
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: like we were selling product.

828
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: Artists, y'all are selling product, you know what I'm saying.

829
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: So I don't understand how I can buy your your

830
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: song or your your album, but you don't get paid

831
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: from it.

832
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 6: Really, how does we've been We've been sold out from

833
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: the forefos and unfortunately.

834
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: We're trying to give her fans from what they did. Exactly?

835
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 6: Is that a flag of stuff? While you why are

836
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 6: you laughing at that? Because uh, I won't even hear

837
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 6: why you look why you found that?

838
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: Because I don't know. They didn't sell us out. They

839
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: didn't They didn't know what happened.

840
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: They didn't know.

841
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 6: What happens is we've been sold out by the four flocks,

842
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 6: and unfortunately in the black and Latino community, it's like

843
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 6: when you watch a bunch of kids playing.

844
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: With the ball and the kid goes my ball. You

845
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: can't play with it my ball. But daddy thought he

846
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: was the only person that could make a dollar. The

847
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: whole entire industry wanted every dollar you could think of.

848
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 6: Right, A couple of other guys wanted every single dollar

849
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 6: you could think of. So it wasn't like each one

850
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 6: teach one. It was like, yo, play the Rubik's Q

851
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: to you fucking crack the colde. So no one to

852
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 6: this day, no one told me you can get a

853
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: dollar like this.

854
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: It's definitely not a game that passes on Intel.

855
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 6: But there's people who knew it. Though there's no there's people,

856
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 6: and I love everybody. I'm not throwing shots up offer

857
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 6: nobody like that. Somebody like, no, I didn't mean that.

858
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: I did not mean that. What I'm trying to tell

859
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 6: you is I didn't mean it in that way. What

860
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 6: I'm saying is the man wanted to be the king.

861
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: Everybody wanted to be like a king, and they wouldn't

862
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 6: tell you.

863
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: So we going like this. I said this with.

864
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: Before Puffers ever be in trouble, and he's a big

865
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 6: inspiration to me. So you know, but I'm in my

866
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 6: video with bottles of fucking sarat. I'm wearing Sean John,

867
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 6: I'm wearing this. I don't know what the fuck going on.

868
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 6: Next thing I know he's selling these ships for a

869
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: billion dollars and so we influencing the streets. They looking

870
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 6: and they're like, oh, we need to get that sweatsuit.

871
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 6: We need to drink that sarack. We need to They

872
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 6: fucking named the whole Coco Loso after fucking fabulous.

873
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: I don't think he ever got a dollar. Huh.

874
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: I wrote the bigeon.

875
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 9: Look we're not here pointing that puff right. What I

876
00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 9: am saying, hold on you is you wrote the bena.

877
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: I sat down. Yeah, he wrote everything. He wrote everything,

878
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: but let me explain said he wrote his part?

879
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 5: I wrote my party.

880
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 6: Somebody I respect to the highest level in the universe,

881
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 6: who I don't think but I know is highly intelligent.

882
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: It is Russell Simmons. And I used to add him

883
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: when I was young. I'd be like, Yo, why we

884
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: ain't got no black distribution? Why we ain't pressing bain

885
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: or no lie? He was like, Joe, you really don't

886
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: want to be asking that question. This is the guy

887
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: who wants to say that's what I was asking about.

888
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: Inn I l no, but never giving it, never get

889
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 5: to the bottom.

890
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 3: But he'll tell you you don't.

891
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Don't even ask that ship. I'd be like, yo, what

892
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: do you mean?

893
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: He is the reason why nobody got the ship.

894
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: They don't want nobody to get that ship, and this,

895
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: and then you heard about people trying to make moves

896
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: like that and they always got in trouble with the

897
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: law or some scandal came out.

898
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 6: You know, they they scandaling, mother fuck us forever. You

899
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 6: talked about somebody we knew in the back in basketball,

900
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 6: maybe scandaling niggas forever, Like Okay, you're getting too loose,

901
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 6: wacko jacko.

902
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, So that as a question that I have

903
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: for both of you, gentlemen, because there's a dope Bart

904
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: that I love. You know, dead rappers get better promotion

905
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: in my life, right, So I want to ask you

906
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: with Big and you with pun because like, those are

907
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: two of my favorite artists that rest in peace aren't

908
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: here anymore? Like what did you when I'm gonna start

909
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: with you kiss like see and Big when he was alive?

910
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: And what disappointed you about how he was projected after

911
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: he died, because that's your line.

912
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: But I saw when he was alive was a good

913
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: guy that took care of a lot of people, very

914
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 4: human Maris unlike the stuff man Crack just said. He

915
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: did put myself and my brothers onto all of the

916
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: howers that beat in the discrepancies And what to look

917
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: for from Diddy and how he was gonna be and

918
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: this and that and you know, I mean, how to

919
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: be an artist and how to conduct yourself things like that.

920
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: That's what I was able to learn from him my

921
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: time being able to spend with him.

922
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: After he passed. It's kind of I got that line

923
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 5: kind of off him in Punch.

924
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: Buff was able to sell ten million offen No Way

925
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: Out album after the.

926
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 5: Pass and the big I've seen a lot of people

927
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 5: just claim to be cooler with them than they were.

928
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 5: One of the things I don't like. One of the

929
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: things I don't like is through all of the shrew

930
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: all of the.

931
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 4: Whateverlits and shit and gis, people don't have the relationship

932
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: with his kids. It beat so called everybody was big

933
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 4: man and this and that, and didn't those kids numbing?

934
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: They never spoke through his kids. They don't got kids birthday,

935
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: they don't. So that's frock and shit right there. But

936
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: it's a lot of that that goes on with this industry.

937
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: It's a lot of smoking mirrors.

938
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 10: And when you come across from good people that do

939
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 10: good business and you're able to have a relationship outside

940
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 10: of the music business, stay tight with them, and everybody else.

941
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: Fuck what about you?

942
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 11: Joe Big pun Puny complicated.

943
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 6: After he died, there was no more money, So it

944
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 6: wasn't like I never made a dollar from here he passed.

945
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Really that's a fact.

946
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: Really never made a dollar. One of the dopest themselves.

947
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what happens is I just seen

948
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 6: and I want to quote this right, but I breezed through,

949
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 6: but I knew what he was saying. I just saw

950
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 6: an interview with French Montana said he sold sixty five

951
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 6: million records.

952
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: That still don't got to ore you to. This ship

953
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: is raping you records. It's raping you, rape me, you

954
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 3: rape me. No, this ship we'll be raping you, raping you.

955
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Were this shit here, sixty five million records. That's what

956
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: French Montana said. So what I'm trying to tell you

957
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: is the only correct correct. It's actually worked.

958
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: It's like college, you guys out, It's the college of

959
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: the guys. This ship, you know, like I got an

960
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: album to me, it's a big deal. It sold two

961
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: million records on Atlantic Records. And it's twenty something years

962
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: that I never see a fucking dollars from this album,

963
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: Like to this day, but I learned the business, and

964
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: I've been independent from maybe seven fteen years. And now

965
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: if I sell, if I put out an album Isel

966
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand record, I make a couple of million.

967
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 6: So you got to educate yourself and figure it out.

968
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 6: You know what, I man, who is that George Bush?

969
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 6: Something happened to me, Shame on me. Something happened again

970
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 6: for me once for me two times, Shame on me.

971
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 6: That's on you if you get jerked one time and

972
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 6: you ain't learning from the process. Because everything in life,

973
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 6: if you get taken advantage of financially, we're gonna have

974
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: a due to your skills. I'm gonna be a Harvard student.

975
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: Let me think something to you. And so you got

976
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: to learn from your mistakes and your lessons in life.

977
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 6: And I've always been good with that. Meaning like, I

978
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 6: got a big brother that I looked up to that

979
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 6: was a billion times smarter than me, but.

980
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: He fucked us on life up using drugs. So I

981
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: never used drugs. So I have to see you. You know,

982
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: I grew up in the family of gambling Hollys. We

983
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: ain't had shit, Nord.

984
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 6: I remember we I used to be sitting on the

985
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: fucking floor, the projects. I'm laying on the floor and

986
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 6: watching my grandmother, my grandfather, my aunts, my uncles, they

987
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 6: playing the number, they betting, they lax and everything right,

988
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 6: and then one day my mother hits, and the number.

989
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: What's the matter? My mother hits. Listen, my mother hits

990
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: and she might have made four hundred dollars.

991
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: And you only hit the number once every like year,

992
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: you playing every day, one hundred hours.

993
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 6: She gotta tip the lady. She played the number with

994
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 6: the whole family, waiting for ten, twenty dollars all away.

995
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 6: Before you know it, she won forty.

996
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: Dollars back up the eight. She spent the skin. You

997
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: fucking with me.

998
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 6: I did the numbers and the knowledge, and I knew

999
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 6: these people are suckers.

1000
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that. And so now they booked

1001
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: me all the time in Vegas, right, and they hoping you.

1002
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 6: Like a dopeen So in any other place here we're

1003
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 6: doing this little event, they walked me int no, no,

1004
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 6: it's huge, but they walked me in through the back.

1005
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: Correct.

1006
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 6: Anywhere I go, if I do a stadium show, they

1007
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 6: walking me through the back, club, walking me through the back.

1008
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: Vega's the only place they walked me to my show

1009
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: in the casino. Do the fucking tables. They want me,

1010
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: they want me to catch that dop team.

1011
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: If I'm a gambler, I'm stopping there and I'm betting

1012
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: all this shit they just gave me back in that

1013
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: table with yourself good luck. I'd be boy the table

1014
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: skippy do that skippy day where the free food at

1015
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: like o fake Gizzie.

1016
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: You got me. But that's yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's

1017
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 3: but but that's you. That's your point. That's residual income

1018
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: for you. Man. You've been throwing up flags at me

1019
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: for that glizzy talk. But that's to your point.

1020
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 7: It's like when you grow up in the hood, you

1021
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 7: get so stuck in the pain for what happened that

1022
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 7: you can't see the things that could be better.

1023
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 3: Right. So like for me, it wasn't easy, but it

1024
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: wasn't hard, right.

1025
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 7: So like even in my book I talk about like

1026
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 7: you always asked me about my relationship with my father,

1027
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 7: and my father's.

1028
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: Here, so like our dad he was throwing.

1029
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 7: With me. I always like to learn, so like all

1030
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 7: the stuff, all the stuff he'd been through, you know,

1031
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 7: when I was young, our relationship was like up and

1032
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 7: down because he went to jail and stuff like that

1033
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 7: and things that happened. You know, me not being a

1034
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 7: man at that time, you know, you look at him,

1035
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 7: blame him for what's going on, right, and then then

1036
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 7: the eleventh grade you have a son, and then it

1037
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 7: changed your life and then you figure.

1038
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 3: It like eleventh grade.

1039
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's like it's not always it's not always

1040
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 7: his fault because he was going through stuff, and he

1041
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 7: was going through his own stuff and trying to figure

1042
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 7: out his own stuff. And then while he was in jail,

1043
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 7: finish college and all that stuff. And now you know,

1044
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 7: as a man, you know, he's one of my best friends,

1045
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 7: you know, because he treat my kids and stuff like that.

1046
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: But what he don't know is is like all the

1047
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: stuff he went through was the example for me not

1048
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: to go through.

1049
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 7: So through through his pain and his trials and tribulation,

1050
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 7: it made me successful as a person, made me not

1051
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 7: feel sorry for myself or be stuck in place and

1052
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 7: just always get up and like, you know, next day

1053
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 7: gonna be better, you know what.

1054
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and just push push that to the limit.

1055
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: So that's why I always try to pay it forward.

1056
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 7: And like I said, you know, I know, we hear

1057
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 7: you know on y'all podcast, which is amazing podcast. We're

1058
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 7: here Jermian Rolls podcast, No No No, and we're here

1059
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 7: to talk about the McDonald's American Game. And that was

1060
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 7: like one of my first stepping stone to the NBA

1061
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 7: because I looked at Jell and Rolls and the people

1062
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 7: before me. I was like, man, the dudes that make

1063
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 7: it to the McDonald's or American Game go to the NBA,

1064
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 7: and you.

1065
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: Know all the stuff my father went through.

1066
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 7: I was just like, like I said, the one thing

1067
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 7: he did always teach me, you know, being a fitherser

1068
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 7: and stuff like that.

1069
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: Always have discipline.

1070
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: I always have knowledge yourself, right, So I had knowledge

1071
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: yourself since.

1072
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: Ye crack came.

1073
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I lot.

1074
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: Look at it, so I always I always.

1075
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 7: Had knowledge yourself since I was young, and I was

1076
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: always proud to be black, right. So that's why when

1077
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 7: I went to Hall of it was so impactful because

1078
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 7: it was the Pollo, the one hundred twenty fifth Street,

1079
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 7: Jada kissingon was always at the mark five.

1080
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1081
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 7: Even though they was my age, they was doing something

1082
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 7: I've never seen before, like putting words together and stuff

1083
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 7: like that. So it was always like mad love and

1084
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 7: mutual respect for them because it was just like, man,

1085
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 7: these dudes are gonna blow up. I didn't know how

1086
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 7: they was gonna blow but I'm like, man, these dudes

1087
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 7: in the hood smashing, you know, whether it was him

1088
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 7: made's Kim, And so as me going forward, I was like, Okay,

1089
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 7: my first stepping stone is to just make McDonald's for America.

1090
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: So that's why I was just pressed because I was like,

1091
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: if I could make that, then my odds to go up, right.

1092
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 7: And I remember when I got the call over the

1093
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 7: loud speaker because that's when and at this point, you

1094
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 7: didn't take the same position from the same city, right,

1095
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 7: So I already knew Steph was gonna be McDonald's America.

1096
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: Step was the best.

1097
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 7: Seventh grade, best eighth grade, best ninth grade. That's tenth grade,

1098
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 7: best eleventh grade. So I was like, man, I was like,

1099
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 7: it might be impossible. I got work hard because at

1100
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 7: that point they didn't take the same position and we

1101
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 7: both as point guards. So when I got the call

1102
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 7: over the loudspeaker, Steff was like the second person that

1103
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 7: told me I made McDonald's America, and That's all I

1104
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 7: wanted to do because I wanted to make my father proud.

1105
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 7: I wanted to make my father friends. I wanted my

1106
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 7: father friends to go tell them like, Yo, this is

1107
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 7: your son. You know what I'm saying. So like for me,

1108
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 7: through all the childs of teletion, I sing, butther like

1109
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 7: I say, like we in the hood and stuff.

1110
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: I always knew like it could be better. And I

1111
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: was like, I know what. I didn't know what I

1112
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: wanted to become. But I said, I know what I

1113
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: don't want to be.

1114
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: And my biggest thing was I didn't want people to

1115
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 7: walk up to me like I used to see them

1116
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 7: walk up to people. I look up to him, like, man,

1117
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 7: he used to be nice. So that's like a big

1118
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: insult to me. Like when somebody say you used to

1119
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 7: be you to talk about it, you know you can't

1120
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 7: used to look at that.

1121
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 3: Joe like shit, I'm flying right now, right now. Don't

1122
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: play that for me. I got all my teeth, all

1123
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: my all my tea, all my teeth. Don't play that.

1124
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: It's been a life. People get runs and then they

1125
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: played that and they remember they used to this.

1126
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 7: Not me.

1127
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: You wanted to cast it. I'm gonna have.

1128
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 7: So that's why I'm proud to be a McDonald's All

1129
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 7: American because to this day, those are my brothers, Like

1130
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 7: Steph KG, Vince Carter pull up his you know, probably

1131
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 7: the same jail. I could speak to his class like,

1132
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: those are my brothers, like when I see them as

1133
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 7: a god.

1134
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: A question for y'all brought it up. It was the

1135
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: Joe and Jadi show. I Love you.

1136
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 6: Paul Peers thinks that if he was in his prime,

1137
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 6: it would be no Lebron James.

1138
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's just the rivalry. Okay.

1139
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't raise like I went to bed one night.

1140
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: I went to bed one night. He was like, Michael

1141
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Jordan is nothing. I'm gonna crush him.

1142
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: Please, that's no, no, no, no, no, no no. Let

1143
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: me let me say this. This as a favorite in

1144
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: the Underdog, Yes, sir, you want to good question. This

1145
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: is a dandy book.

1146
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Good.

1147
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 6: Paul Pierce thinks, and if he was in his prime,

1148
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 6: it would be no Lebron James. Case in point or whatever.

1149
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: He says.

1150
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 6: He made Lebron James team up with d Wade to

1151
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 6: them and go down to Miami because they won them

1152
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 6: two chips in the world he said, I was past

1153
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 6: my prime and I forced him to go down to

1154
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 6: Miami and play with them because we had the game

1155
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 6: all smash so honest smashes all right, So y'all host

1156
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 6: school for myself, but I'm fast because of that. Can

1157
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 6: y'all both answer it as honest as possible? I'll start

1158
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: with you, sham God. Do you think that Paul Piers,

1159
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 6: if he's at his prime, Lebron James Dog got to

1160
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 6: wait six years for a chip or something.

1161
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 7: Nah, that's why through the flag because you know Paul

1162
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 7: is want McDonald's American guy, and that's my brother.

1163
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: But the reason why.

1164
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 7: Lebron went to Miami is because Kevin Garnett and Ray

1165
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 7: Allen came to Boston. If Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen

1166
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 7: don't come to Boston, then Paul Pis never get a

1167
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 7: ring and there's no reason for Lebron to go anywhere.

1168
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 7: So when he say Lebron went and team Dugan somebody,

1169
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 7: it's not that he went a team double Spike, but

1170
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 7: somebody came and teamed up with him for him to

1171
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 7: win a ring. So you gotta have the same grace

1172
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 7: for the next man that goes somewhere else, listen what

1173
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 7: you think.

1174
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: One of my favorite verses came from Big and that's like,

1175
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: as I look at you, gentlemen, it literally just came

1176
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: to me when he was like, do you sling crack rock?

1177
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: Or you got a wicked jump shot? Because we idolized

1178
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: what you guys do and many artists wish they hooped,

1179
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: like Jada kiss was literally just talking like I wanted

1180
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: to hoop, but like I ain't get the offers that

1181
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: I want, or Cam talk about it. I've heard multiple

1182
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: people talk about it. But to your question, Paul literally

1183
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: said he was past his front, so therefore nothing stopping Lebron.

1184
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: At that time, the Pistons were a couple of years

1185
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: older and like Lebron is his gold stat he earned that,

1186
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: not better than Michael dordon no.

1187
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: No, but he's go status. I can't do that.

1188
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 6: What you think, Jada Kissing, you always make a funny

1189
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: wite When you heard that and you squinted.

1190
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 5: He said, they both said that.

1191
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,959
Speaker 1: I think you're a liar, and deep down the side

1192
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: in your heart, you think Lebron's better than Jordan.

1193
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: I think, so conversation come up. Who the fuck is he?

1194
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: He always give me a twitch.

1195
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 6: I'm mj forever. He's very smart, very calculated man. But

1196
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 6: your fucking you know, like you know, like that cop interrogation,

1197
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 6: you did it? Do you at the bottle in his store?

1198
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 6: You had the fucking bottle in his store.

1199
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: So as somebody that played against Michael Jordan's play against

1200
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: Kobe Plait against Lebron, I'll just tell you, guys something,

1201
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: there's nobody better than Michael.

1202
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: Let's talk slow to him. I want to be very clear.

1203
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: You're with us now, huh? And Rich pauling it.

1204
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: He's like, there's a reason why you're wearing his shoes

1205
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: and he ain't played in thirty years.

1206
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: I agree, there's an actual reason.

1207
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: Just think about this, and I know the cool kids

1208
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: say pause now, So I thought it out, But this

1209
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: gentleman played basketball with his tongue hanging out. Just think

1210
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: about You can't walk from this stage to the back

1211
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: with your tongue.

1212
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: Out without biting your tongue. Just think about that. So

1213
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: Jordan revncing the wrong man. So you're wearing his shoes

1214
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: preaching to the converted. I'm telling you why you're wearing

1215
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: his shoes.

1216
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: It's not just because he won the Championships, like Jordan

1217
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: had that sexy that fly, he showed up with the Blazer, had.

1218
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: The Ferrari, parked it in the arena, played with his

1219
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: tongue hanging out like like this. This is iconic.

1220
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 12: Part two to your answer. This is why I say

1221
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 12: Kobe Bryance the second best water. I was standing there

1222
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 12: when he scored eighty one fast, I know. And the

1223
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 12: thing is, let me, let me give you no highlights

1224
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 12: in that game.

1225
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: Let me give you a hit record.

1226
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: And he said, you have four no hit records in

1227
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: that game. Sat down for the four. That means did

1228
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: not sit down for the Oh so that wasn't that game, Mas,

1229
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: that was.

1230
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: The MAS, sat down the whole four. So we played up.

1231
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 3: So here's so I want I want to highlight with me,

1232
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: not I want to highlight what you're saying.

1233
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Kobe was on the heater that month, like I looked

1234
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: at the schedule and I'm gonna do a story time

1235
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: like we wasn't legal then, we was not legal and

1236
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: are we?

1237
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 3: Marijuana was not legal cannabis start.

1238
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: It might have been a little bloated trying to pass

1239
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: the test that night because they were there to test.

1240
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: You, making excuses ain't no excuses. Kobe's my that's my

1241
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: little brother.

1242
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: Like, if you google right now, who was Kobe Bryant's

1243
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: favorite player when he was in high school? It was me.

1244
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: If you google that right now, it was me. So

1245
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: that that's my little brother. I'll never forget. We was

1246
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: working out of U. C. L A.

1247
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: And y'all know this is artists.

1248
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: We was working out and doing our thing, and we

1249
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, we're gonna go to berk and

1250
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Santa Monica and get massages and like rehabilitate and hitting

1251
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: the scheme and whatever. But what I didn't know his

1252
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: ass was going back to the gym. He ain't tell me.

1253
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: So I was going to LA to kick it. So

1254
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: we worked out in the morning, you know this coach,

1255
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: that's why you laughing.

1256
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: So like we go work out in the morning and

1257
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like we're done and I'm going I'm doing

1258
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: the LA thing.

1259
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 3: His ass went back to the gym and didn't tell

1260
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: me he did that.

1261
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: Every I got a story for you. I come up

1262
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: in Jersey, I parked the car in the garage. I'm

1263
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: going to see my man.

1264
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 6: It's one of them buildings that you go to the lobby,

1265
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 6: and you got to take the other elevator to go

1266
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 6: to the thirtieth floors up.

1267
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: You gotta get out in the lobby. I gotta keep

1268
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: this around me for you sometimes. Okay, it's okay, it's

1269
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: all right, it's all right.

1270
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 6: Right. I come out in the lobby, and then thirty

1271
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 6: people that live in that building surrounded the front desk,

1272
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 6: So of course I go be nosey. I'm like, yo,

1273
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 6: what's going on? The security? The doorman is watching the

1274
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 6: little black and white TV. It's the finals, So I'm

1275
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 6: watching the finals. If you ever wonder, one time you

1276
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 6: ever seen yo, what with other people thinking? At this moment,

1277
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 6: I happen to be there by mistake, with thirty people

1278
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 6: watching the basketball finals.

1279
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: So I go over there.

1280
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 6: Everybody's watching, Asian people, white people's fan like everybody. The

1281
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 6: whole lobby is ran pat watching this little TV. They

1282
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 6: down two points, right, the Lakers are down two points.

1283
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 6: The other team got the ball, so they're about to

1284
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 6: throw the ball at Kobe jumps over, something hits the guy.

1285
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 6: The ball hits the guy and goes throw a whole

1286
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 6: thirty people.

1287
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: A body's crying. I'm like, they're still down to they

1288
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: got the ball.

1289
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: Why are you crying at this point, guys? Because you

1290
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: knew that motherfucker was gonna curl and hit that three

1291
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: in your face. That ball got checked in, he did

1292
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: the curl and shot that three, and they fucking faced

1293
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: the whole thirty people knew exactly what was gonna happen

1294
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: with Kobe Bryant.

1295
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 3: And this is why I say he's the second best.

1296
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 7: And this is why I say right, So, like what

1297
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 7: people understand is it goes back to like what Kiss

1298
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 7: was talking about with Big right when his untimely demis

1299
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 7: is like when I see people act like they were

1300
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 7: more cooler with him than they were, it like bothers

1301
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 7: me to this day because like Kobe first came back

1302
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 7: from overseas small circle, I'm the first person.

1303
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 3: That he met. Right.

1304
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 7: We played ABCD together and his father, I was dribbling

1305
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 7: and stuff and his father was like, Yo, can you

1306
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 7: teach mysel know how to dribble?

1307
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: He was like, and this is not me talking.

1308
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 7: Because I ain't talk about it in twenty years. Kobe

1309
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 7: said it retirement. So Kobe said it out of his

1310
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 7: mouth and he was like yeah. He was like, so

1311
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 7: when I first when I first met him. His father

1312
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 7: was like, hey, can you teach him how to dribble?

1313
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 7: He was like, my son got everything, but he really

1314
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 7: can't dribble. And I was like, we your son. And

1315
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 7: we had a game that night and ABCD and this

1316
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 7: dude like shooting gum walking like Jordan's talking like Jordan uh.

1317
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 7: And at this time I just made make Donalds American.

1318
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 7: I was like, he's shooting all the balls. I'm like, yo,

1319
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 7: who the fuck is this shooting the ball? This is

1320
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 7: supposed to be my team right now? And we in Jersey,

1321
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 7: so I'm like I'm home, like this is my joint.

1322
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 7: And his father was like, you know, he's just learning here, Junior.

1323
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 7: This at this time, Tim Thomas is the guard, like

1324
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 7: number one playing in the Country's nobody touching Tim Thomas.

1325
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 7: So then Cole was coming in to prow points. So

1326
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, you know, I get up every

1327
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 7: morning to work out. I do this, I do my

1328
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 7: own routine before camp start. So he's like, all right,

1329
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 7: we're talking you. I'm there, and I'm smart as I'm like,

1330
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 7: oh yeah, I'll be there five in the morning. No one,

1331
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna be there five in the morning. So

1332
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 7: I get there like seven. He full sweated already like,

1333
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 7: oh what he actually came. He came, He's just working out.

1334
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 7: He's not mad that I came. Two hours later.

1335
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: He's like, what's up? What we doing? What we're doing?

1336
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 3: What we're working on? So I'm showing them how.

1337
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: To cross over, do all this stuff.

1338
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 7: And at this point he like a sponge, right, So

1339
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 7: he just learned all this stuff and I'll never forget,

1340
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 7: like his first year in the NBA. If you my

1341
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 7: first year NBA, if you look on highlight when he

1342
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 7: dunked on Ben Wallace. I'm right here on the baseline

1343
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: next to Ben Wallace and I'm telling Ben, like, yo,

1344
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 7: he gonna right.

1345
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: The left cross. I showed him He's gonna right the

1346
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: left cross.

1347
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 7: So then he crosses, come down laying the dunks on

1348
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 7: Ben Wallace and he's like and at this point, you know,

1349
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 7: when you're ABC and you young, all the kids are like,

1350
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 7: you know, not hating on them, but you know how

1351
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 7: we teach. People were like, oh, you think you Jordan's

1352
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 7: you think this?

1353
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: You think that? And he was like, what we be

1354
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: better than Jordan? Are you crazy?

1355
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 7: He was like, Jordan's shoot one thousand jump shots. I'm

1356
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 7: shooting two thousand, mates, So you got to think at

1357
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 7: fifty percent, he's just shot four.

1358
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: Thousand, right a day. Not this, This is this is drive.

1359
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 7: So like when he get in the NBA and they

1360
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 7: start calling him showtime and him in shock, all these

1361
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 7: people beefing and all that, he was already so mute

1362
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 7: to it. Whereas Cob used to get on the bus

1363
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 7: with headphones on with no music just so he can

1364
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 7: hear people talk about him. Right, this is how vicious

1365
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 7: he was. So like when people talk about him, it's

1366
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 7: kind of like for me, it's personal.

1367
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: It's like the thing with.

1368
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 7: Steph, Like I seen him at that age, like where

1369
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 7: he was shooting, like you said the discipline, he was

1370
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 7: shooting two thousand jump shots. Back then he wanted to

1371
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 7: play against jail and Rhodes and Jerry stackhousing him in

1372
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 7: high school. Back then, I was like, no, I'm the guy, Like,

1373
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 7: don't compare me to this person that person. So like

1374
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 7: that right there made me and him to like to

1375
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 7: a twenty five year relationship to where under his timely demids,

1376
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 7: I was training his daughter. Right, so I have a

1377
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 7: picture in my house where it is me his daughter,

1378
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 7: the other two girls. I have a picture of myles

1379
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 7: right now. Everybody, everybody in the picture is dead but

1380
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 7: me today was on the plane right. So it's like

1381
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 7: and the crazy thing about what his daughter was. He

1382
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 7: flies me to La. He's like, he called me. He's

1383
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 7: the only person could do it. He called me. He's like, hey,

1384
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 7: I need you to train my daughter how to dribble.

1385
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 7: And this time I'm working with the Maths story. I'm

1386
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 7: working with the Maths. The kids know this story sign.

1387
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 7: I'm with the Maths. He like, Yo, I'm gonna fly

1388
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 7: you to LA. I want you to work my daughter

1389
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 7: out hundred girls And I'm like, what girls. He's like,

1390
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 7: my girls team, I got like four of them. They

1391
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 7: gonna go to u Konin't Gray.

1392
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm like what.

1393
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 7: He's like, yeah, I get there. He's like, hey, we're

1394
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 7: going to start practicing at six in the morning. He said,

1395
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 7: we're gonna do six eight. We're gonna do six, eight

1396
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 7: and twelve. So I was like, you want them to

1397
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 7: work out six hours and he was like yeah. He

1398
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 7: was like, I only want them dribbling. And I was like, oh,

1399
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 7: they can't dribble six hours, bro. He's like, no, we're

1400
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 7: gonna do two hours at a time. I just want

1401
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 7: them dribbling. I go there, I start working with his daughter.

1402
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 7: She's just like him, what you got, coach? What you

1403
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 7: got coach?

1404
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: Now that all the parents is there watching me train him.

1405
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: Eight o'clock, Come coach, just dropped the ball. Take his

1406
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: door to walk out. Come back.

1407
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, we're gonna do some shooting. Or

1408
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 7: he's like, nah, I just want them dribbler. I'll take

1409
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 7: care of the shooting. Just want them dribbling. She's like,

1410
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 7: what we got? And I'm like, cold, they can't do

1411
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 7: this the whole week, bro, And she was like every

1412
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 7: day I walked in there, coach, what we got?

1413
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: We got more? Old coach. Look, I learned this from earlier.

1414
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 7: So that's why when when all this stuff happened, it

1415
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 7: was just so like like u'surreal for me because I

1416
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 7: meet people today that talk about, yeah, you know cold,

1417
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 7: this cold My god is that they don't even know,

1418
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 7: don't even they.

1419
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: Actually introduced them to his system.

1420
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 7: So it's kind of like a kids said, like you're

1421
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 7: saying you know somebody, somebody your best friend or your

1422
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 7: mentor how you don't know their sister, right, And I

1423
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 7: just saw his sister like a month ago, and she

1424
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 7: was just like, it's so crazy. How when we was

1425
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 7: in high school, my brother used to come to the

1426
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 7: house and be like, Yo, this the move.

1427
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: Sham God be doing this. The move sham God be.

1428
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 7: Doing So like for me, it's like, like I said,

1429
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 7: it's no better feeling, Like all the stuff I went through,

1430
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 7: you know, going to the NBA, not finishing whatever.

1431
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: It's like God just had a bigger plan for me.

1432
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 7: Right, And when I was young, the only thing I

1433
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 7: wanted to do is inspire people. I wasn't thinking about

1434
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 7: being rich. I woudn't think about that because because to

1435
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 7: Joe's credit, to like jay Z's, to the rich porters

1436
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 7: of the world and all that, that's all I got

1437
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 7: from Harlem was inspiration. So that's the only thing I

1438
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 7: knew that was concrete, right, is the inspired people. So

1439
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 7: when the things happen, like with Cob and the people

1440
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 7: that was put in my life, to even being on

1441
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 7: this podcast right now, to the Mark Cubans of the world,

1442
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 7: to being a part of rock Nation and stuff like that,

1443
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 7: it's like, there's no better feeling for me. Right, So

1444
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 7: it's like everything I asked for, I always say I've

1445
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 7: got So that's why I'm like real big on being

1446
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 7: spiritual and real big on knowing this is bigger than me,

1447
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.

1448
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: And that's crazy because like and by the way, shout to.

1449
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: All of the McDonald's all high School, all America.

1450
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, that's why we're here, Yes sir. And shout

1451
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: to Rock Nation yep.

1452
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada, Yes sir, favorite show and family, and

1453
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: shout to you sham because us. One of the things

1454
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: that it's overlooked about, like this union is like the

1455
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: level of respect be half of each other and how

1456
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: hard it is to be fat Joe and Jada kiss

1457
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: and gosh. I don't want to get too preachy or

1458
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: like too therapy or whatever, but like you gentlemen, are

1459
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: success stories, yes, and what ends up happening in our

1460
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: community ends up happening with you know, notable figures. Sometimes

1461
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: we underestimate what they had to overcome to be who

1462
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: they are. That's that's a real thing. Like Jada Kiss,

1463
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: I know this human being has overcome some stuff. It's

1464
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: fat Joe, and he acts like is because this crack

1465
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: where he stood up it overcomes the stuff.

1466
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: Right, God sham, God has literally overcomes his stuff. And

1467
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: the beauty of this audience and the beauty.

1468
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: Of this opportunity is to like inspire people. And that's

1469
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: really what we want to do, to serve when you

1470
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: make music. I hear you talk about this all of

1471
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: the time. You got so many hit records.

1472
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: We got inspired the people, And I just want to

1473
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 6: go back because they twist out your word. Shout out

1474
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 6: the Diddy. I ain't throw no shot because you know

1475
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 6: how they twist your ship.

1476
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 3: We're not. We're not gonna get fighting down. He's with

1477
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 3: my guys in jail. So it was really really good down.

1478
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 5: Shout out to the soldiers and four dicks down?

1479
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: What would you be? And those way more vehicles on

1480
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 3: on the street. Where was y'all be? Where? I want

1481
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: everybody this? Where would you be? Instagram?

1482
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 7: Instagram back came out? Where would you be if you

1483
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 7: had Instagram? And I'd lean back for first.

1484
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: Of all, being be in jail. We didn't have a wife.

1485
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh I say, they fucked me up. That be the

1486
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 3: worst day from me to be the worst day from

1487
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: my life.

1488
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: Financially, I'd have been liked busito, like Man, that shit

1489
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: would have been over a billion serves that lean back

1490
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: in the instagram.

1491
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: Imagine everybody you would have seen churches.

1492
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the most fat friendly dance you ever

1493
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 6: seen in your life.

1494
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: Facts, that ship would have been.

1495
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: Out of here?

1496
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: How did how did lean back happen? Man?

1497
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 6: They keep telling us we gotta go really quick. That

1498
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 6: Jamaicans was killing the game. So they had signal to

1499
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 6: play away. Underran a running man, you know, and that ship.

1500
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 6: So when we came up with the beat, me and

1501
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 6: Scott Storch, we in college studio and I was like, Yo,

1502
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 6: this ship gotta be a simple hook.

1503
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: And they didn't. We didn't know yet stuff we know now.

1504
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 3: We didn't know.

1505
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: But I knew that I had to make a simple

1506
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: hook that even a little kid could sing. And we

1507
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: spitting all type of I don't give a fuck about

1508
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: all life, and I just say yo, and they be

1509
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: looking at me like crack.

1510
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 3: What you think I'll say?

1511
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 9: Man?

1512
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 3: My people don't thanks. We just full up our fens,

1513
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: do the rocklean, lean back, I lean and it's like

1514
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: that ship and it was out of here. We re

1515
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: beeaated it twice.

1516
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: And that's how I learned how to make it hits,

1517
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: like make it rain, and you know, like even when

1518
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: if you think R and B, let me get real quick, well,

1519
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: when you got records where they're like they tell you

1520
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: that ain't it yet? Like when the when when the

1521
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: R and B singers are blowing to the point of

1522
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: we can't even mimic it, and like that's not a hit.

1523
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: It gotta be something that we could sing along to

1524
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: even though we can't sing, you know, you know, like

1525
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to sing.

1526
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: Hen I M tell I'm not yo hey. Before wrapping up,

1527
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 3: who had the best McDonald's American class?

1528
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 7: Right?

1529
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 3: Also? Shot Rock Nation? Shot Donalds All American? Yes, get

1530
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: your fried?

1531
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 5: What extra?

1532
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: No, No, no, it's ninety six ninety five? Is the

1533
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 3: best McDonalds of America?

1534
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 5: Who's ninety five?

1535
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 7: I might have been Northfolk, God, Sham God, Stephan Marlbury,

1536
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 7: Paul fizz, Antoine Jamison, Vince Carter, Kevin Garne, the Tractor Trailer,

1537
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 7: Chris Klak, Chauncey, Billups, Louis Block. What's ninety six NAT

1538
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 7: ninety six is Jermaine O'Neill, Kobe Bryant, No, no, Steve

1539
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 7: that that's the drive you're talking about? The drive talking

1540
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 7: about the high school down American Jermaine O'Neill, Stack Jack,

1541
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 7: Rip Hamilton that next year, Yeah, that's the next year,

1542
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 7: Rip Hamilton, Holloway. We are arguably the best dunker ever.

1543
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 7: We are arguably one of the best dribblers ever met

1544
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 7: dunk you have. You had Stephen Marbury, culture changer. You

1545
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 7: had Kevin Garnett that changed the whole algorithm.

1546
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: Wow.

1547
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 7: You had Chauncey Billups big shot. You had Tractor Trailer

1548
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 7: bear rest in peace. You had Paul Piers Ron Mercer. Yeah, bro,

1549
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 7: he answer the question.

1550
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 3: This ain't that? And that ain't this?

1551
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: His cracking kiss God damn makes some noise for this

1552
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: Sam God.

1553
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1554
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: So McDonald's all American, that dot Yes, this hip stepping

1555
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: that got three McDonald's all the Merrians.

1556
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 3: New York.

1557
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 4: We got the rat list twins and we got one

1558
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 4: ball go they going to us he goes, and the

1559
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 4: other dude is going to Michigan State.

1560
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: So I did I need to ask one question on

1561
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: the walk up because I need.

1562
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: To take the old man sky Rizzy.

1563
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 6: You know they ain't even I looked it up. That

1564
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 6: ain't even for when you got a piss you'll be

1565
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 6: saying shop for no reason?

1566
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: Yo, flag on the play. So I got a quick

1567
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: I got a question for both the y'all. Let me

1568
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 3: ask my question. Got to use the bath. Who's the best?

1569
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Huh?

1570
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: You're jacking the spot. You talk to me crazy with

1571
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: the media. But what the out out here? Put the

1572
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: dad the fab five? You don't joy? He tried to

1573
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: act like his name came from his crack. He did.

1574
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: I cannot believe you want a simple question. Who is

1575
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: the best? Who is the best female basketball player? Right now?

1576
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 13: Cannas Parker Right, I'm saying around as wil Korea A Wilson,

1577
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 13: Asia Wilson, As Wilson, going, Caitlin Clark, Asia Wi Wilson,

1578
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 13: Asia Wilson.

1579
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: You gotta go on, Juju Watson, Now you gotta sit this,

1580
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: gotta sit this one out. Dog. I love Asian Wilson,

1581
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: all right, hold on, I love you.

1582
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 3: I love you so much that I'm not the light

1583
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: skin girl, the pretty well. I don't give it. I

1584
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: don't girl. What's the name you don't want to talking about?

1585
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 7: No?

1586
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: I get PTSD as you your question? No, So when

1587
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm telling you who's the light skin?

1588
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 6: No, Juju, she's gonna take all of she taking the

1589
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 6: ball out j from l A, Juju from l A.

1590
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 6: She's gonna take Juju. Watkins is gonna take all of

1591
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 6: the mouse. I'm telling you, the white girl.

1592
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 3: What's the what?

1593
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: What?

1594
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: What's the light skinned girl?

1595
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 14: She she played like mellow feast, Feast feast the dead Knights,

1596
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 14: but that it's just the best.

1597
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 3: Thank you. You didn't ask me who was nice? You

1598
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: ask you who the best? Is the best?

1599
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, play Asian Wilson right now, there's not that's

1600
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: the fact. There's not what's all right for clickbait, for

1601
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: clickbait because that I take an old man Clark.

1602
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: So come here, Joe, I got a classic com here.

1603
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: I love you very much.

1604
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: Come here, Joe, because I gotta I got a seat

1605
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: for the crowd.

1606
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 11: So like these are like legendary figures the bathroom, So

1607
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 11: that's what it is.

1608
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: Don't use to say the reason.

1609
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: So I'll ask Jada until Joe come back. Because I

1610
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: always wanted to know this because like I'm a detrader, and.

1611
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 11: Like blade Icewood was our king and then he and

1612
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 11: he died, you know, very young.

1613
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: And I saw this happen with Nipsey Hustle I saw

1614
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: this happen with multiple artists who like died before they

1615
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: were able to like, in my opinion, like really killed

1616
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: the game correct. Big l is another.

1617
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 11: So I want to ask Jada kiss in front of y'all,

1618
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 11: and I want y'all, I want you.

1619
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 5: To give you.

1620
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a second to think about it.

1621
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: I want to know.

1622
01:25:54,880 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: Your favorite Biggie verse because I was thinking about this

1623
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: on the way here. I have like like nineteen thousand

1624
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: my favorite Jada Kids verses. So I know this is

1625
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough question for you. Something that he said,

1626
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: something that touched your soul, something that's song for you.

1627
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: It's a story guy with Tracy Leap Oh yeah, the.

1628
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: Rings and things you're thinking about bring about. So I said, yeah,

1629
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: what's up, Veryrell with Yes, I.

1630
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 5: Got a I got a new mouth to feet do

1631
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 5: stuff with kys. Y'all, pick sees out, yall, weed watch.

1632
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 4: Motherfucking please, it's my block and my rock, fuck that

1633
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: hip hop, the one tools and you don't stop me

1634
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 4: and my man last to kimm in season feed or

1635
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 4: ten or pounds of weed, plants, brants, and now we

1636
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: lamp in twelve room mansions getting that get off, get money,

1637
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 4: play his anthem, all the all the ship niggas can

1638
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 4: be counting it, Robin come naturally and then l a

1639
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 4: fucking rapidly casting gat to me.

1640
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 7: Tom bolle be, Thank y'all, Thank y'all for coming definite.

1641
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 3: You don't gotta go home, you gotta get got it,

1642
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: AND's all. That's all.

1643
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: I want to ask the same question of that, Joe.

1644
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, I got a discovery, Joe, you're

1645
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: not fat anymore? Did you were doing? I spent all

1646
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: my money. I got my brother Terry in the building,

1647
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: got yo. I was gonna bring you up, Jason Terry.

1648
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: Did Jet make some noise in the championship?

1649
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 4: So Jon Terry Dallas African, you know, godesistant coach.

1650
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 3: So I went on for life.

1651
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: So I want to ask the same question as Joey

1652
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: that thinks we call him crack because he was in

1653
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: third grade and stood up and somebody looked at the

1654
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: back of his ass and he wanted to sell that

1655
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: to us.

1656
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 3: I love you very much, thank you. We don't. We

1657
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: don't call you crack because of that. So you know,

1658
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 3: we call you crack because of what is the question? Jay?

1659
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: The question is.

1660
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Your favorite big pun verse, Oh the middle, harsh realities

1661
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: of life, to take the toll leaving jeez Christ to

1662
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: shake my soul.

1663
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: You ain't the killer.

1664
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Still learning how to walk from New York to Cali

1665
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: or my real niggas Captain Shaw walk you to death.

1666
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Don't even talk that he's the West Crack from Roster

1667
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: left Rack. We still big pun. That still ain't a killer.

1668
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Rest in peace, that's my favorite big punch

1669
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: on lovebody.

1670
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 6: Else will just say get in the middle of a

1671
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 6: little right that guys, God was crazy here. He wrote

1672
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 6: records in his sleep. True story. He wrote records and

1673
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 6: he would nine out. He had that ship where you

1674
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 6: full of sleep styles due so as the ghost man.

1675
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 8: He go to he put the beat on, go to sleep,

1676
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 8: wake up out on that styles, turn on the beat.

1677
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 4: Turned all the lights off, the electricity in there, everything.

1678
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: He wake up and he got the whole song. That's

1679
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: the craziest ship ever. I thought Pun was like one

1680
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 3: to full asleep, wake up and be like, yo, give

1681
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: me the book.

1682
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 6: Start writing a whole song that he heard in his sleep,

1683
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 6: and I'll be like, damn not. Not even was beyond

1684
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 6: talented and gifted and even though I discovered Pun, he

1685
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 6: taught me so much. That's why I you know, the

1686
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 6: whole game. When Big Pun passed because he was so

1687
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 6: much better than me, they thought it was over for

1688
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 6: Fat Joe counted them out.

1689
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: What No, everybody, my best friends, they didn't know.

1690
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: I went to the school of Big Putt. He taught

1691
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: me how to write, He taught me how.

1692
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 5: To thirty minutes.

1693
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: They I gotta go, y'all, listen, everybody showing Jada sport

1694
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: love love love love.

1695
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: Sham God, Joe Kelly, sham God, Joe Kelly, what's up?

1696
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 9: Teach your son the sham guy, McDonald's Americans, teach your

1697
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 9: father the sham.

1698
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Yes, shout out McDonald's on Americans. All the McDonald's all

1699
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: change a bunch of lives.

1700
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: And I gotta say this because it's a McDonald's All

1701
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: American event.

1702
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: And I didn't say this, but I want to say this.

1703
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: As a basketball player, when you realize that you're going

1704
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: to the McDonald's game, Oh that's the first time.

1705
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 3: To realize you going to the league.

1706
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 15: Yes, you got a shot, right, And I remember they

1707
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 15: used to give me those cards. Get Chicken McNuggets. We

1708
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 15: are you making mckdogs over here. I ate that the

1709
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 15: whole year, so love.

1710
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Thank you for pulling up.

1711
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 4: Thank you