WEBVTT - Selects: Desert Survival: Josh and Chuck Save Your Tookus 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.600 Hey, everybody, it's me Josh, and for this week's Select, 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.400 I've chosen our episode from two thousand nineteen, where we 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.200 cover an old House Stuff Works article Chuck had written 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.280 years before, back when he was the Adventure section writer. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.279 It's a fun and interesting look at both how to 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.960 stay alive in the desert, as well as an in 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.200 depth look at some silly sentences that Chuck wrote. I 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:29.240 hope you enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:38.840 production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.200 I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.599 over there. You put the three of us together, and 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.879 you've got stuff you should know just in case you 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.520 ever get lost in a desert. Is what we're going 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.440 to give as our gift to you. Tradition. You know 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.440 what's funny, As I was reading a podcast newsletter today, 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.760 like an industry newsletter, and I'm gonna buzz marketing now, 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.200 all right? Uh? And I mean there's only one. Now, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.360 there's probably more than one. There's several, are there? I think? 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.600 So all right? I should get on the at least two. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.520 Two can be several, right, isn't that the Biblical unit 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.600 several is two. I thought the Biblical unit was a cubit, right, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.160 I'm glad we can laugh in this one. Um And 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.080 it said there was an article specifically about podcaster burnout, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.440 and they interviewed someone that was like, you know, she 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.520 started podcasting in two thousand seventeen and blah blah blah 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.040 and experienced burnout. And I gotta laughed. I was like, 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.920 I mean, I get it, like people burn out in 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.600 different ways, and they may have a it's tougher workload 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.280 than nuts. But I just sort of snickered that after 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.800 eleven or click going on eleven years, very soon do 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.600 you have this April eleven years? Like we we have 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:58.000 moments of not burnout, like we get a little warm, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.640 kind of like this again, but that quickly passes very quickly. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.760 You know. I'm never like, uh, I've never burned out. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.080 I would say that where I don't want to do 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.040 this or anything. No, I know, I would say there's 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.560 probably been like literally five times. I'm sorry to use 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.880 the word literally, but I literally mean literally in this sense. Yes, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.360 because you've built a statue of paper machee after each 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.040 time represent each burnout, right, right, And they're they're on 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.880 my desk, so you can count them. There's five. But 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.560 it comes in like just digging into a topic at 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.400 a time when there's like a bunch of other stuff 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.200 going on or whatever. It's just been a really long 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.079 stretch where maybe we're recording more than usual, and then 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.239 when we get in here to record, it's gone agreed. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.919 That's when it doesn't happen. I don't think I've ever 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.960 been and let me knock on wood, I don't think 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.800 I've ever been in a recording session with you and 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.200 been like not wanted to do it, my friend, And weirdly, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:59.200 I'm more burnout with movie crush at times, like it sounds, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.839 trust me, I'm seriously complaining. But ask Emily how many 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.360 times I've been like, I gotta watch this movie tonight 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.520 notes on because it takes long, and like I have 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.280 to pause to take the notes because I don't want 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.160 to miss anything. So it takes like three and a 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.200 half hours to watch a movie and take notes. And 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.960 that's how I guess you're you're fundamentally not able to 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.200 enjoy the movie. It's not like enjoying a movie right, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.040 You're quite analyzing DNTs. It a little bit, and it's 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.679 at night. Kind I guess, yeah, you're right, kind of, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.079 but and it's at night, so it's like I'm technically 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.400 not at work, and sometimes it's just like I don't 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.480 want to watch whatever. Yeah, don't point Break. Who's who's 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:42.040 his point Break? Jordan Morris of Bubble and Jordan Jesse go, Okay, yeah, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.680 point Break is a good one. No, no, no, it was. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.680 It was really kind of fun watching that. Actually, I 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.000 don't know why I pulled that one up, okay, because 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.760 it was the most recent one I watched. But to 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.280 take notes on Point Break, it can be a little tedious, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:04:00.880 right bra. There's that one great part where they do 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.360 the midnight surf and Kiano has just learned, you know, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.000 and you just hear this because it's obviously a d 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.320 R like recorded afterwards, and you just hear him yell 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.560 m E and surfing. Man. It's just such a great line. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.920 Does he say F or the F word? Well, he 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.640 says the F word. That would have been better if 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.920 you have said maybe on T N T. That's how 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.120 it says, oh boy, oh there's one. Oh have you 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.400 seen that's sorry? I know we haven't even started yet. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.440 Out of the way. Have you seen that video of 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.440 Keanu on the New York I believe subway giving a 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.599 seat up to a lady who's standing. No, but he 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.360 is a legendary good guy, yes, who's been through some 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.840 horrible stuff. Yeah. Um, and I just want to be 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:51.280 his friend, Keanu Reeves. If you're listening, friends, okay, well 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.360 he's your friend first, because you asked, well, we could 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.680 share him, Okay, all right, I get him on Tuesdays 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:02.320 and Thursdays. That's fine, so we can learn together. Yeah, okay, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.440 all right, that's fair. You can have him. We'll alternate weekends, okay, 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.559 because you know Canada on the weekends, that's that's a party. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.359 He think he's a good guy on Monday through Thursday. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.320 To see how many seats he gives up on a Saturday. Alright, wait, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.120 hold on, one more thing. Can you imagine Keanu Reason 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.440 listening to this conversation at first, kind of chuckling himself, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.840 and it's getting like weirder and weird rights finally, president 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.400 stop and maybe it never listens again. We just blew 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.359 our chance. Chuck alright, one more thing, and then I 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.320 swear I'm done. I meant to tell you that I 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.880 did some l A sessions recently for movie Crush and 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.320 UH the Great Show High Maintenance on HBO. It's one 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.880 of my all time favorites. The dude on there, Ben 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.240 Sinclair as the guy, the WE delivery guy, UH is 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.640 just like. One of the main reasons I went there 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.800 in person was just so I can meet him. I 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.080 meet him and the first thing he said was is, hey, man, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.360 I used to listen to you and Josh when I 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:02.000 UH was a shusher at this lesbian poetry bar. And 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:03.680 I was like what I was like, first of all, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.919 it's a suure. He's like, it's a poetry bar, you know. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.039 I said, there and shush people, and He's like, but 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.640 I ustill listen to you you. Guys always wonder what you 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.280 look like. Did Josh quit smoking? And I was like, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.520 why don't you people ever reach out right, like do 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.080 you know what that would admit to me? Which he 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.080 was just a suture at the time maybe, but now 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.640 he's made it. Yeah. So anyway, I told him that 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.960 you quit smoking, You're doing great. I don't think he's 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.200 listening for a bit, but do you think he's listening now? 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.240 I don't know if he got back on the train 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.000 or not. But if he did, do you think he's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.960 friends with Ken Rees? Maybe? But Ben Claire gives up 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.560 his seat for no person got that's his And if 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.520 you if you say, like maybe you should stand up, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:46.160 he goes. Now he would give up his seat. Okay, anyway, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.719 let's talk about desert survival. Imagine Chuck, Ben Sinclair is 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.920 making his way through the desert in his car, priest 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.760 will say, and he runs out of not just gas 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.760 but electricity as well, which he might he has a 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.599 big RV. Actually that's worked into the show. Okay, he's 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.760 in his RV, so he just straight up runs out 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.080 of gas, which probably happens a couple of times a 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.240 day in a big old r V. I would imagine. Okay, Um, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.160 Ben's in trouble because Ben was not expecting to have 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.520 this extended stop and unexpected stop in the desert, so 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.960 he did not bring a few things. Okay, if Ben 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.440 were paying a little less attention to whether people were 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.800 talking you need to be shushed or not, and more 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.040 attention to his desert survival, what would he have packed 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.080 in that RV? Chuck, Well, Ben Sinclair would have had 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.680 probably a pound of weed, Okay, so he's got a 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.400 good start there because he could burn that for a 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:45.160 signal fire or for comfort and warmth. Um. Well, I 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.120 mean I wrote this dumb article. This is a great article. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.080 Did you notice my stupid thing I did with the 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.520 music titles? Sure, the Oasis thing and all of them 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.400 are song titles. All the sidebars are song titles. And 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.520 that was back when I was like, oh man, I 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.200 am the most clever person alive. So I got the 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.560 wonder Wall one um, rescue me. Okay, I gotta excuse me, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.360 but I was thinking more of the TV show than 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.120 the song. There's also, so everybody, if you go onto 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.040 how Stuff Works dot com right now and look up 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.320 how Desert Survival Works. Each page, almost every page has 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.880 a a a sidebar, and the title of the sidebars 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.600 are song titles. Rescue me? After all, you're my wonder wall. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.040 What's what could it be? It's a mirage? What could 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.600 it be? It's a mirrage? What is that? I'm telling y'all, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.520 it's sabotage. Okay, that's a good one. And then finally 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.920 a little shout out to uh Annie food, glorious food. Okay, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.760 So that was that was what used to make me 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.120 happy at work. Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah you too. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.839 When you do like a clever photo caption and that 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.400 would be that would get you through the week. We 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.880 would stand up and like share it over the cubicle. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:58.679 Halloo caption. Yeah, this is gonna blow everybody's mind. All right, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.120 So you're in the desert, you want to have uh, well, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.480 let's just let's just talk about this stuff. Okay, Yeah? 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.480 What what should be in your kid? Water? A mirror? 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.800 That's a big one. Way to start a fire. Yeah, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.240 that's a big one too. Basically, just a lighter, food, water. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.240 If you're gonna cross the desert, have a lighter, which 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.640 seems counterintuitive because it's hot in the desert, but no, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.040 trust us. Well you'll see you want a lighter on 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.200 you a mirror which you'll see too. Yeah, that's what 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.000 we'll do. We'll see what's supposed to be in the 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.360 pack and in the r V, and then we'll go 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:35.400 back and we'll Okay, I'm suddenly burned out. Should we 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.480 take a break? Yeah, all right, let's take a break 0:09:37.520 --> 0:10:05.720 and let's start the podcast in earnest. All right, everybody, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.120 welcome to stuff. You should know. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.440 there's Jerry over there, and we're talking desert survival. So 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.800 let's get to it. And so this is all due 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.760 to the fact that we just recorded a very tough episode, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:19.160 so we're clearly just goofing off now. Um, so we're 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.600 talking about deserts, and we did a desert episode and 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.319 a desertification episode two and I think one on the 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.920 dust Bowl. But something that all deserts have in common 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.959 is not sand, is not even heat. It's a lack 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.120 of water. Yes, technically Antarctica is the largest desert on 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.280 the world, in the world, Um, and there's lots of water, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.000 but it's all locked up as ice. There's no available 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.040 water in exactly the same way as there's basically no 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:51.840 available water in Death Valley in California. Um, deserts have. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.840 The next thing that they have most frequently in common 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.440 is again not sand, but exposed bedrock. All of those 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.200 cool for nations or whatever, that's actually the bottom of 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.800 the earth you're seeing exposed. All the soil has been 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.840 dried out for so long because down basically it's been pants. Um. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.839 We've got some good pants stories by the way, coming soon. Yeah. Um. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.200 The soil is so dry that it can't be held 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.120 in place. The wind is blown it away, and so 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.120 what you're seeing is the exposed bedrock sand only makes 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.199 up something like of the world's deserts. Yeah, I mean 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:33.199 you got pebbles, desert soil. Sometimes that bed rock you're 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.160 talking about. We're gonna talk about o acs. So I 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.800 think Antarctic is Survivor or Antarctic Survival or even Arctic 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.400 Survival deserves its own episode short day. So we're just 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.120 gonna be talking about hot deserts and all of that 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:52.679 sand and exposed bedrock and pebbles bakes in the sun 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:59.680 and shoots that heat back out and it's just super hot. Okay. Yeah, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.559 So her is the biggest obviously the biggest, biggest problem. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.520 If you get trapped in the desert on foot or 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.200 in a car, uh, and you think about, like, never 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.360 go desert hiking. I don't need to worry about this. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.559 But have you ever been like, oh, I'm gonna take 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:17.600 the long route through from Texas to California because it's 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.440 more scenic, uh, And then your car breaks down and 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.520 you're in big trouble if you don't know what you're doing. Um, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.640 that happened to a woman. I can't find her name 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.840 right now, but she is a She was a grandmother. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.679 I believe she's seventy two, who was driving in her 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.400 Prius and it ran out of gas and electricity on 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.880 the way. I believe to Phoenix and um, she had 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.079 an unexpected trip with her dog for nine days in 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.880 the desert and survived. Yeah. Did she eat her dog? No? Okay, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.440 luckily she did not have to eat her dog. Did 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.400 she survive on the saliva of her dog? Yeah? They well, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.440 they spit one another's mouth, so it was kind of 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.800 but they did that an it was a wash. So 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.599 dehydration is obviously the kind of um physical symptom you 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:07.079 might experience if you run out of water, uh, decreased 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.240 frequency of urine. Of course, if your urine is very 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.000 smelly or very deep yellow, your mouth is going to 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.880 be dry, your you know, as things increase dehydration wise, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.400 you're gonna get sunken eyes. Your heartbeat is gonna increase. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.720 And if you get to the stage where you literally 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.920 have no urine, or if you're vomiting and have diarrhea, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.400 then you're pretty bad shape. Yeah, so vomiting and diarrhea 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.680 is like that last thing you want to do while 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.320 you're dehydrated, because all it is is just getting rid 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.000 of any remaining hydration you have. It's not good. That's 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.120 that's a bad reaction to dehydration. Um. And we'll talk 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.440 about heat casualty coming up. But um kind of psyched 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.320 about that bit. Oh yeah. But when we talk about 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.840 water and rationing water, there's an old saying ration sweat 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.400 not water, meaning, um, don't like drink all your water once, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.640 but rash and your sweat. Like they say not to 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.160 you know, if you are lost like this, like don't 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.440 go hiking to find civilization during the peak of day. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.920 You want to ration how much output, how much you're sweating. Um, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.720 but you you do have to take in that water. Yeah, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.320 so when you're in the desert, you you recommend, or 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.360 to say, the experts recommend, because it's obviously a very 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:30.360 well researched article, um that that somebody drink a gallon 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.720 of water a day. Well, I mean that's what they say. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.600 If you've got like a you know, unlimited amounts of 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.480 water a gallon a day, you need a rashtion it 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.440 somewhat if you have very limited water obviously, But what 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.600 you don't want to do, which happens a lot of times, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.760 is to be found dead with water in your canteen. Yeah, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.640 which is God, it's haunting sure. And um and like 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.080 you said, I mean you want to you want to 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.720 rashtion your sweat, not your water, but you do kind 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.080 of want to rash in your water, like you know, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.240 I don't want to be a little water piggy right 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.960 out of the gate. But you also you recommend um 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.720 via the experts that you that you don't just wait 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.880 until you're thirsty, because you'll only get about two thirds 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.960 of the amount of water you actually need just by 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.400 going by thirst. You want to actually stop and like 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.240 drink more water than you think you need. Yeah. And 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.880 if you're hiking around again, we we talked about morning 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.120 and evenings or the best time to go look for help. Um, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.360 if you see a trail, go down that trail because 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.040 you have a better chance of finding someone there. Um. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.600 Follow the birds. Birds generally and animals go towards water. Yeah. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.480 Apparently if they're circling in the morning or the evening, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.720 they're probably circling around water. Try and get some groundwater going. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:51.480 But very wisely, you point out through the experts that 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.840 if there's like a little, you know, small mountain in 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.240 between you and those birds, in a longer way around 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.160 the mountain that's flat, take the longer way that's flat, 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.560 because even though you might cut off a couple of 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.760 hours between you and the birds, you're gonna really exert 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.960 yourself going up that mountain, whereas instead you want to 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.120 you want to take the longer but slower, less exerting 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.200 path to get to that water where the birds are circling. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:22.400 For sure, if you're with someone, um, don't talk. I mean, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.040 you know, you can talk some, but don't just chat 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.320 about your day. Try to conserve your words. Try and 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.000 breathe through your nose. What do you think about grace jump. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.200 If you happen to see any wet sand or standing 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.280 water anywhere, then you're in luck because you can dig 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.800 down in there and you will probably find more water 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.480 under you know, this groundwater underneath it, which is that's 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:52.080 a benaan. If you find like a groundwater in the desert, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.680 you're probably gonna be okay. Yeah, If you don't find 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.440 any water and you run out of water, you're probably 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.080 not going to be Okay. No, you also want to fire, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.480 which you said isn't very intuitive. But uh, if you've 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.240 ever spending time in the desert, the temperature swings are huge. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.000 You can get cold in the desert at night, and 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.840 then fire allows you to purify water. There's that whole 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:20.720 safety feeling. It keeps mountain lions away, right, Sure. I 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.440 would guess just about any critters don't go near fire 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:27.680 because they associated with wildfires in the desert. Brush fires, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.120 rescue signal you can, you can do that, I'll trick. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:32.880 I think we even did a show on smoke signals 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.199 early on. No, I don't think so. No, No, And 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.640 I wanted to I keep forgetting to write. Are you sure? 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.880 I'm pretty sure it was like an early, early early 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.000 to go listen to it, Yeah, because I wanted to 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.119 do that. It's probably not very good. Um, but your 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.000 whole point of all this is to find people and 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:52.080 to get rescued. Yeah. You make a great point about that. Yeah, Like, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.520 like the point of being lost in the desert is 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.560 to make yourself visible. Yeah. The point of not being 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.560 lost rather or being lost in finding rescue the key 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.960 to being found, how about that? Right? So, if you 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.280 are in a car. If your car is not working anymore, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.280 it's out of gas or whatever, flat tire, um, blow 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:15.160 it up. Basically, stick a hanky in the gas tank 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.280 and just blow it up. So you want to stick 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.200 the hanky in the gas tank. You want to fashion 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.960 a bow and arrow, light the arrow, stand back and 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.080 shoot the cars gas tank. That's what you want to know. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.760 You want to open your hood, entiere rag to it, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.800 or a bandanna around your antenna or something, anything like 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.160 a typical sign of distress. Um, if anything to make 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.640 it like something's up here. Sure. Yeah, like even if 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.840 the hood is fine, like you raise a hood as 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.719 an indicator. Yeah, like if there's no engine trouble, right, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.560 you can still raise the hood. It's all right. Nobody's 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.000 gonna like arrest you when they rescue you. Uh, if 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.520 you can spell out UM S O S or something 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.240 like that with help clothing or help on the ground, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.480 for if a helicopter or plane is nearby. Yeah, it's that. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.879 That woman in Arizona was rescued by writing help. I 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.840 think that's actually how they found her. She wrote help 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.159 in sticks. Oh really yep, nice her dog told her 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.119 to do that. Stuff works. Uh, if you are in 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.680 your car. You've got a leg up because you have 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.840 your rear view mirror or your side view mirror that 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.240 just just go ahead and break that thing off and 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.959 use it. Yeah. I think we said in the first 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.399 few minutes that we're trying to forget about now that 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.760 you want to have a mirror in your survival pack 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.680 no matter where wherever you're going hiking. Yeah, but a 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.840 lot of people don't have survival packs in their car, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.399 like most people, I think. I mean, I don't know, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.359 I think about it. I've got like jumper cables and 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:48.919 some rain cks. Does that you know after that last 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.880 stupid Atlanta ice storm a few years ago that stranded 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:57.280 people snow apocalypse? Yeah, I um, I think I had 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:58.760 something in my car after that, but I have a 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.639 different car now. It wasn't my but it was like 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.840 some water and a blanket and some granola bars. I 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.680 need to like stock up minded Emily's car with that stuff. Yeah, 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.720 for sure, you never know. I think they just remember 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.560 when we had some tornadoes in Atlanta a few years ago. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.439 You me and I were like, we really need like 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.520 a crank radio and like all this stuff. We started together, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:21.120 and You're like, I wonder what's on TV before you're 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.199 not you're watching the Japanese game shows. He'd forgotten, like 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.000 eight hours go by. But a signal mirror is important, 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.760 you know, you just uh flash that thing. It says 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.679 here too. I was about to make fun of it, 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.199 but I realized I wrote it. But practice on a 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.680 nearby rock. I thought that was a good advice. I mean, 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.439 you don't want your first attempt at signaling somebody with 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.760 the mirror to be while you're trying to signal somebody 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.240 in a passing aircraft. Probably so. And I mean like, 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.680 if there's no cloud cover, you can get somebody at 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.920 like thirty thousand feet if you do it right. So heck, yeah, 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:54.960 practice on a rock. What else you're gonna do while 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.280 you're sitting around in the shade. Nothing? Yeah, there might 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.440 be a Delta pilot up there that's like, oh God, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.000 what is that? That's so annoying. You should have a 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.600 whistle in your survival kit so you can blow it 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.800 if you see someone from far away. And um, they 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.399 recommend that if you honk your horn for help, to 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.040 be like hunk, hunk honk, and then wait and honk 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.359 honk honk, because if you just lay on it like 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.320 you're if you're in traffic, someone might hear that and 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.720 just think this car has this horn stuck. Yeah, there'll 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.480 be like that's so annoying. I'm gonna continue on past 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.840 this weird um path and death valley that no one 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:35.480 should be down. So let's say horn is Let's say 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.399 you are in your car, your car is is jacked 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:43.080 up um, and you're like, all right, I've exhausted my resources. Here, 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.800 screw this, i gotta go take a hike. Leave a 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.520 note on your car and say like, hey, I'm broken 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.120 down and I've gone northwest on at two a pm 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.320 on Tuesday. Also, I'm Chuck Bryant, who hopefully you're looking 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.919 for you found him. Check out my podcast Stuff you 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:02.040 Should Know and a movie crush. Yeah, never miss an 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:06.919 advertising opportunity. But if you do, stay with your car, Yeah, like, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:08.679 just don't sit around in your car, like sit in 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.440 the shade. They even say to sit on a blanket. Yeah. 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.960