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Speaker 1: Short answered, No, We're going to have our show at

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Speaker 1: this Sunday night, June twenty third year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of nil money. It's just that

430
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Speaker 1: Saban always got the discount on kids. Now, it's funny

431
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Speaker 1: because the same folks that told me Bama was broke

432
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Speaker 1: and the nil would dry up are now telling me,

433
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Speaker 1: Bama surging because they're dropping bags for kids, which I

434
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Speaker 1: still can't square. And then the other thing is people

435
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Speaker 1: told me, well, look at Washington's class, look at how

436
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Speaker 1: he recruited at Washington. That's the evidence, Josh. If he

437
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Speaker 1: couldn't get it done there, how's he going to get

438
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: it done down here. Well, it's kind of like growing

439
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: up in Missouri and wanting to be a really good surfer.

440
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: No one wastes their time taking surf lessons in Cape Girardo, Missouri.

441
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: The reason is because there are no waves in Cape Girardo, Missouri.

442
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Speaker 1: But you can rest assured the folks in San Diego,

443
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Speaker 1: California do or in this world. Caylin de Boor didn't

444
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Speaker 1: even attempt some of the things that he can now

445
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Speaker 1: attempt at Alabama, whether it be an approach, or whether

446
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Speaker 1: it be a higher or whether it be the way

447
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Speaker 1: that he divides and allocates resources, because he knew it

448
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Speaker 1: was a wasted effort at Washington. It's not a wasted

449
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Speaker 1: effort where he is now. Now they can do things

450
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Speaker 1: they never dreamed about doing. They were never even foolish

451
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Speaker 1: enough to try it at Washington. But now they got

452
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Speaker 1: beachfront property Okay, they're one of the premier destinations in

453
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Speaker 1: college football, and the only weapon that they really had

454
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Speaker 1: outside those walls fashioned against them was the unknown folks

455
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Speaker 1: elsewhere in the SEC. They looked around and said, uh,

456
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Speaker 1: Bama has hired an exceptional game day coaching staff. We've

457
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Speaker 1: got to make sure they don't load up on talent.

458
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Speaker 1: Problem is they're loading up on talent. And if Alabama

459
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Speaker 1: recruits like this, Bama's going to be a problem in

460
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Speaker 1: the SEC for a long time, same way they have

461
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Speaker 1: been for a long time. Because now you can't sell

462
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Speaker 1: that they're not going to recruit anymore. And you think

463
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking ahead of turn here, I'm not. That recruiting

464
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Speaker 1: is not going to slow down like Bama's recruiting is

465
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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. If anything, it may uptick again a

466
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Speaker 1: couple of times, and by the end of July they'll

467
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Speaker 1: have their class filled out. And whether they finished number

468
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Speaker 1: one or finished number four, I said when he got there,

469
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Speaker 1: do as long as they average a top ten class,

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Speaker 1: I think that will more than be made up for

471
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Speaker 1: on game day. If they're recruiting in the top five

472
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Speaker 1: consistently at Alabama, Alabama's going to be a nightmare for

473
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Speaker 1: folks because I think Greg burned the ad there, got

474
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Speaker 1: a step ahead of the curve, and he assessed the

475
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Speaker 1: landscape of college football and he said, if talent acquisition

476
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Speaker 1: today is a lot more transactional, in other words, if

477
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Speaker 1: you don't have to be such a skilled recruiter, but

478
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Speaker 1: more of a guy who has deep enough pockets and

479
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Speaker 1: you can just go buy your class, well we can

480
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Speaker 1: do that, Nick Saban or not, we can do that.

481
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Speaker 1: Let's go get a guy who's gonna get the absolute

482
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Speaker 1: most out of the roster when we get him on campus,

483
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Speaker 1: and who's going to develop and do exactly what he

484
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Speaker 1: did at Washington. If the cherry on top is you

485
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Speaker 1: don't take a back seat in talent acquisition either, then

486
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Speaker 1: Bama's going to be a problem for a long time

487
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Speaker 1: for a lot of folks. So the biggest weapon was

488
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Speaker 1: the unknown that's gone. The whole Bama nil thing I

489
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: think was always ready to be dispelled. That was a

490
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Speaker 1: myth to begin with. Just because they didn't have to

491
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Speaker 1: do it when Saban was there didn't mean they ever

492
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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. They didn't need to do it. So

493
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Speaker 1: Alabama recruiting man this week, this next month not done

494
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Speaker 1: seeing the fireworks. They're talking to a lot of folks

495
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Speaker 1: around the industry today and there's some surprise, and I

496
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Speaker 1: think other fan bases around the SEC may be looking

497
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Speaker 1: at this end. Are you serious? Because you've banked for

498
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Speaker 1: a long time on just making it until Sabin retires,

499
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Speaker 1: and then what Saban retires. It doesn't matter who they

500
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Speaker 1: go higher, because there's no way that anybody will match

501
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Speaker 1: what Nick Saban did. I have no clue what Alabama's

502
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Speaker 1: going to be under kailn Debor. I know that that

503
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Speaker 1: guy doesn't take a back seat on Saturdays to much

504
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Speaker 1: of anyone in the sport, and if they're recruiting efforts,

505
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Speaker 1: don't take a backseat too much of anyone. You don't

506
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: need to know a whole heck of a lot about

507
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Speaker 1: this game to know what premier talent acquisition and premier

508
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Speaker 1: coaching once you get them on campus leads to. In

509
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Speaker 1: this sport, it'll lead to the same thing it's always

510
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Speaker 1: led to, academy sports and outdoors one stop shop for

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Speaker 1: I would say ninety three or ninety four percent of

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Speaker 1: what I need in my life. Now. Some of you

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Speaker 1: live a little bit more extravagantly than me. Some of

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526
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Speaker 1: So if you don't have one in your backyard, that's fine.

527
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Speaker 1: You can still make all of your dreams come true.

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Speaker 1: We've got partners like them. On our side, so we

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Speaker 1: thank them always, end forever. In the words of Luther

535
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Speaker 1: Vandros biggest questions in college football this year, I got

536
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Speaker 1: one for you. Does Ohio State really have the best

537
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Speaker 1: roster in the sport? I didn't say the best team,

538
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Speaker 1: because a lot more goes into making up a great

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Speaker 1: team than just having a lot of talent, although if

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Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of talent, chances are you've

541
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Speaker 1: put a very low ceiling on how good your team

542
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Speaker 1: can be. The reason I'm asking this is because there's

543
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Speaker 1: been a lot of talk long before urban Meyer and

544
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Speaker 1: Jim Tressel spoke up. But urban Meyer and Jim Tressel

545
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Speaker 1: have both won national championships as head coaches at Ohio State,

546
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Speaker 1: So when they spoke up recently and said what we're

547
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Speaker 1: to play for you, it raised a lot of eyebrows

548
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Speaker 1: roll at colin.

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Speaker 4: But as of now, this is one of the most

550
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Speaker 4: talented rosters in the last decade, maybe ever. I mean,

551
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Speaker 4: I said big statement, they got to play, but you

552
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: look at the quality of athlete at every position. I've

553
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: never seen anything.

554
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: Like it, and I don't know if I've ever seen

555
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: that many great players in that building, all at once,

556
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Speaker 5: every position, every place you turned. And so Ryan's done

557
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Speaker 5: a great job. Ohio State has done a great job.

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Speaker 1: And I've been up there this spring and they're not wrong.

559
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Speaker 1: They're not wrong. I've been at Georgia, I've been at Texas,

560
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Speaker 1: I've been at Bama, like I've been at the places

561
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Speaker 1: you would call having the most premier rosters in the sport.

562
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Speaker 1: There is no place that surpasses what Ryan Days got

563
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Speaker 1: on his hands in Columbus, Ohio. Now, notice what I'm

564
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Speaker 1: not saying here. I didn't even make a prediction about

565
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Speaker 1: the season because I know what comes after that. It's

566
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Speaker 1: a consequence of success. You go and get all the talent, well, naturally,

567
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Speaker 1: people are gonna have really high expectation for you. I

568
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Speaker 1: do too. It's kind of a double edged sword in

569
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a way this year, but they're

570
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Speaker 1: a top three recruiting program in recent history. They loaded

571
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Speaker 1: up with quality in the portal. They actually didn't go

572
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Speaker 1: get a ton of kids in the portal, but the

573
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Speaker 1: ones they got are premier kids. Caleb Downs, for example,

574
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Speaker 1: plays at Ohio State. Now, the moment he stepped on

575
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: campus there, I felt like he may be the best

576
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Speaker 1: football player on their team and they are loaded, absolutely loaded.

577
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Speaker 1: So I know what kind of statement that is. But

578
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Speaker 1: that's the kind of got trade like Quinjohn Judkins, that's

579
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Speaker 1: the kind of player they added out of the Portal.

580
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Speaker 1: There is a critical mass of returning starters there as well,

581
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Speaker 1: the guys they got to come back. In fact, when

582
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: we had Ryan Day on the show, that's the first

583
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Speaker 1: thing you wanted to talk about. When we were up

584
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Speaker 1: there in the building all day last month, that was

585
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Speaker 1: the thing they wanted to talk about. Like, yeah, they'll

586
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Speaker 1: talk about the portal guys, they'll talk about all that,

587
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Speaker 1: but they're always quick to say, look at who's returning.

588
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Speaker 1: That's the nucleus of the team. The nucleus is not

589
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Speaker 1: from the portal. The nucleus is all these dudes we

590
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Speaker 1: got returning that. Frankly, I don't think this time last

591
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Speaker 1: year a lot of people would have expected to be

592
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Speaker 1: on the returning starters list. So is it championship or

593
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Speaker 1: bust this year? In a way, I think that's insane,

594
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Speaker 1: But in another way it makes perfect sense. It's insane,

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Speaker 1: you know, to me at least, it's insane if you say, well,

596
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day, with all this talent, if he doesn't win

597
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Speaker 1: a championship, they ought to move on and grab someone else,

598
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Speaker 1: and we'll know they shouldn't, So that part's insane. But

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is built in such a way this year

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Speaker 1: where if they don't win a national championship, I'd consider

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Speaker 1: the season of failure. I don't think I say that

602
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Speaker 1: very often. And we're in an expanded playoff era now

603
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Speaker 1: where theoretically it's even harder, the big tens deeper. So

604
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: theoretically it's harder. Man, they've got everything. They got everything.

605
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Speaker 1: Now there's a difference in a really talented roster and

606
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Speaker 1: a good team because you're only as good as that

607
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: weakest position unit. So again we're gonna look at offensive line.

608
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Speaker 1: I look at offensive line with them personnel wise. I

609
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Speaker 1: look at offensive line in a recruiting standpoint, and I

610
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Speaker 1: think that's the area if you're circling on Ohio State's

611
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Speaker 1: depth charter recruiting with a red sharpy. If you're circling something,

612
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Speaker 1: they all know what. Ohio State knows it, it's offensive line.

613
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Speaker 1: If they fall short this year and there's not devastating

614
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Speaker 1: injury somewhere, my guess is it's been because of offensive

615
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Speaker 1: line play. Again, So if you don't get it done

616
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Speaker 1: and you acquired all that talent, that's the great catch

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Speaker 1: twenty two. You don't acquire the talent, people say, oh,

618
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Speaker 1: nine wins, that's good. You go get the kind of

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Speaker 1: talent they have. You better win it all. You better

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Speaker 1: win it all. So urban Meyer thinks it's the best

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Speaker 1: roster he's seen. Jim Tressel thinks it's the best roster

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Speaker 1: he's seen. I will not disagree with them. I think

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna put on the field this year is

624
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Speaker 1: deeper than anything either of those guys put on the field,

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Speaker 1: and they have some really good teams. There another big

626
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Speaker 1: question as we approach twenty twenty five for the season,

627
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Speaker 1: which of the defensive players out there are capable of

628
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Speaker 1: like being game wreckers. I mean the kind of like

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Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew and Domakan Sue, big time defensive names of

630
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Speaker 1: years past where you had to know where they were

631
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Speaker 1: every play. I think we got some of them. I

632
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Speaker 1: think Tennessee's got one in James Pierce, the edge player there.

633
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Speaker 1: He led the team last year with nine and a

634
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Speaker 1: half sacks. And I think if if we're even close

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Speaker 1: to right about what Tennessee could be offensively this year.

636
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Speaker 1: They're gonna score, meaning teams are gonna have to score

637
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Speaker 1: to keep up with them. They're gonna have to throw

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: to keep up with them. And I just picture in

639
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Speaker 1: my mind, you know, like they're on the road against Oklahoma,

640
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Speaker 1: two or three big moments James Pierce off the edge,

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Speaker 1: especially if Tennessee develops depth elsewhere on their defensive front,

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Speaker 1: where you can't really key on that guy as much

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Speaker 1: as teams probably think they can. That's the kind of

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Speaker 1: guy where you're watching your highlight shows, your recap shows,

645
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Speaker 1: and Tennessee one, but you don't know how they won

646
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Speaker 1: that day and it's all of a sudden man like

647
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Speaker 1: two forced fumbles, scoop and score three tackles for loss.

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Speaker 1: Just James Pierce. He has that kind of ability. I

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Speaker 1: think Harold Perkins at LSU has always had that kind

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Speaker 1: of ability, and for whatever reason we didn't get to

651
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Speaker 1: see it last year, that doesn't mean he's lost that capability.

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Speaker 1: They got a new defensive staff down there, how will

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Speaker 1: they use him. There are a lot of questions with

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Speaker 1: LSU this year, a lot of questions on their defense.

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Speaker 1: He's not won, he's an answer. He's the opposite of

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Speaker 1: a question. Use him as much as you possibly can.

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Speaker 1: He should be a game wrecker. Lsu Jesse, what's their

658
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Speaker 1: over under? It's nine and a half, right, so Lsu

659
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Speaker 1: is expected to be in that nine nine and a

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Speaker 1: half range. We got a bold prediction later on the

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Speaker 1: show tonight from someone who doesn't think Lsu will finish

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Speaker 1: above five hundred. He is the difference in those kinds

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Speaker 1: of games. You know, everyone's going to focus on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. They should Everyone's going to focus on them

665
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Speaker 1: replenishing at wide receiver, great offensive line or should be

666
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Speaker 1: down there will the running game be able to carry

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Speaker 1: the mail form. But absent all that, Harold Perkins should

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Speaker 1: be a game wrecker defensively, should have been last year,

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Speaker 1: should be again this year. Abduall Carter at Penn State

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Speaker 1: edge player there, they just lost a key guy to

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Speaker 1: injury over the past a couple of weeks and so

672
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Speaker 1: very unclear you know whether he'll be back in time

673
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Speaker 1: for the season remains to be seen on that. But

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Speaker 1: Abduall Carter, you know if he and Danny Dennisutton, for example,

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Speaker 1: if they provide an elite pass rush, then it helps

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Speaker 1: that secondary a secondary they're confident in, but still a

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Speaker 1: lot of new pieces there, so it helps the secondary.

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Speaker 1: But also, you know Penn State this year, Hey, it'd

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Speaker 1: be great if you get a new OCN and Drew

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Speaker 1: Aller in year two just turns the corner and they're

681
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Speaker 1: scoring several points per game and more than they did

682
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Speaker 1: last year and the explicivity rates way up. But if

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Speaker 1: it's a work in progress, it sure would help to

684
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Speaker 1: have a cat like this be changing with non offensive scoring.

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Speaker 1: That sure would help. Ruben Bain I think possesses that

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Speaker 1: ability down at Miami defensive end entering year two, no doubter.

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Speaker 1: As long as he's healthy, tied for the team lead

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Speaker 1: in sacks as a true freshman, I think you can

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Speaker 1: expect fairly consistent across the board sort of elevation of

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Speaker 1: production for Miami defensively. Anyway, if that's the case, again,

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Speaker 1: same way we talked about it with Pierce, there's a

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Speaker 1: big difference in being able to turn guys like that

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Speaker 1: loose because offenses can't afford to key on one of them.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, if you've got that kind of

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Speaker 1: situation with ruben Bain, really, even if you do have it,

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Speaker 1: he's still trouble, but if you have a situation where

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Speaker 1: the rest of your guys around him respond, total game wrecker.

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Speaker 1: And then I mentioned Caleb Downs earlier in the show

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Speaker 1: only because when we're talking about defensive players, I can't

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Speaker 1: talk about game changers and not talk about this guy.

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Speaker 1: Was it Bama last year at Ohio State this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what else we can say about

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Speaker 1: him that we haven't already said. I think he could

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Speaker 1: enter the NFL Draft right now and be taken fairly high,

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Speaker 1: and especially after this year, even though he still has

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Speaker 1: two years left in college. So yeah, those are some

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Speaker 1: of the defensive players that I would look at. I'm

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Speaker 1: not quite ready to say, you know, defensive Heisman or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, which, by the way, is an award

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Speaker 1: that I've always thought we should have. I know, we

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Speaker 1: have best defensive player in the country. I've always thought,

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Speaker 1: with the way the Heisman is voted on, should just

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Speaker 1: have an offensive and defensive Heisman. But who listens to me.

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Sugarland, Texas, Athens, Ohio, and pel City, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Now I see our numbers.

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Speaker 1: We've got a fairly sizeable live crowd tonight. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for watching. Just make sure you're subscribed. What did I

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Speaker 1: hit on my computer? Just make sure you're subscribe. That's

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Speaker 1: all I ask. If you're listening on pod, make sure

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Speaker 1: you're subscribe. So we had some news, we had some news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just make it sure I didn't clicked the wrong thing.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma gave Brent Vennables a contract extension. A lot of

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Speaker 1: you were vocal about this. Surprisingly to a lot of

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Speaker 1: you were vocal about this, and so I think it

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Speaker 1: warranted with the feedback. We got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: conversation on it. Pete Famill with ESPN the other day

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Speaker 1: broke it. Venables gets a six year contract with significant rays.

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Speaker 1: So I think, first off, let's get the details out

729
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Speaker 1: of the way. He was making about seven to seven

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Speaker 1: point three or something like that million per year. This

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Speaker 1: bumps him up to the eight point five to eight

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Speaker 1: point six per year range, so little over a million

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Speaker 1: dollars per year, and increase in salary, and look, Brent

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Speaker 1: Vnnibles has got to put food on the table. It's

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Speaker 1: a tough economy out there, guys. You think you're getting

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Speaker 1: by on just seven point three million per year anymore? No,

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Speaker 1: this is not twenty twenty one. Come on now, So

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Speaker 1: good for Brent Vinibles keeps his head afloat financially. My

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Speaker 1: tongue is squarely in my cheek as I say all

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Speaker 1: this in case your detector is broken out there. The

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Speaker 1: natural question a lot of you had was why why now?

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Speaker 1: Why now? Why are you giving him an extension?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And one of the questions I thought was valid. I

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Speaker 1: always ask this anytime a guy's given a contract extension,

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Speaker 1: Why did you have to do it? Who were you

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Speaker 1: bidding against? Who was coming after? In this case Brent

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Speaker 1: and Venables, I get all that. And especially in what

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Speaker 1: I call a PJW, a post Jimbo world, where these big,

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Speaker 1: mega extensions are given and then guy doesn't follow through

751
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Speaker 1: on it and you end up with egg on your face,

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Speaker 1: I'm always hesitant to just blindly endorse these sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: So Brent Venables is sixteen and ten through his first

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Speaker 1: two years at Oklahoma, but more importantly, he was ten

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Speaker 1: and three last year. They beat Texas last year, and

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Speaker 1: he signed three top ten recruiting classes in a row.

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Speaker 1: So here's one thing I have learned about Oklahoma. I'm

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Speaker 1: not questioning Oklahoma's decision making when it comes to coaching.

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of college age folks and high

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: school folks who listen to this show, but forget about

761
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Speaker 1: people that young. Let's say you're twenty five years old. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: you made it a quarter century. You've also never known

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma to have head coaching instability in your entire life.

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Speaker 1: It's been the previous millennium since the last time folks

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Speaker 1: in Norma looked around and said, boy, this head coaching

766
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: situation's really shaky. Lincoln Riley killed it there, Bob Stoops

767
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: killed it there. And now the same people who were

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Speaker 1: making decisions back then largely are the same people who

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Speaker 1: decided not only to hire Brint Venables, and not only

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Speaker 1: did they not waste any time in going to get

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Speaker 1: Brenton Venables, they didn't doubt themselves. He's also shown them

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Speaker 1: enough to where they've decided, yep, he's our guy. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the thing about that. It could be confusing to you,

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Speaker 1: It could be confusing to me. I'm not that confused

775
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Speaker 1: by it. But even if I was confused by it,

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Speaker 1: they've got the best vantage point, and their criteria is

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Speaker 1: the only criteria that matters. If this were the University

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Speaker 1: of Florida, if this were Tennessee, if this were a

779
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Speaker 1: place where they've made some really suspect moves in the past,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't afford them benefit of the doubt. Oh, Oklahoma's

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00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: nailed it, Like almost in many of our lifetimes, Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: has largely nailed it. So if there's one place where

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna blindly assume they know what they're doing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to hiring, it's Oklahoma. Did you hear

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Speaker 1: the fan base? I always love to use this as

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Speaker 1: a barometer whenever a new extension is given out, whenever

787
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Speaker 1: contractual things are in the in the blender with the

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Speaker 1: head coach, go ask the coach, go ask the fan base.

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Speaker 1: As soon as this went down, the fan base said,

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Speaker 1: absolutely love it. Gabe Ikerd Teddy out there like all

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Speaker 1: those folks, the people whose voices I trust in the

792
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma market, former players included, every one of them. I

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Speaker 1: didn't notice a single person pushed back on it public

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Speaker 1: or privately. I talked to a few of them privately,

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Speaker 1: so all of them are on board. I'm on board

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Speaker 1: with it. I don't know what more there is to

797
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Speaker 1: say about that. I mean Oklahoma. Benefit of the doubt, dude.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to give that to any program out

799
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Speaker 1: there when it comes to coaching hires and knowing what

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Speaker 1: they're doing with coaches is Oklahoma. I did want to

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Speaker 1: mention look at my notes here. LK Extra that stands

802
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: for Lake Kick Extra. We recorded it a little bit

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Speaker 1: later last week than normal. I think it dropped on

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Speaker 1: Friday morning. The Late Kick Extra podcast. For those of

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Speaker 1: you unfamiliar, it's a mail bag I do it once

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Speaker 1: a week. It normally provides some of our best content.

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Speaker 1: It's audio only. It's just in the podcast feed. It

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Speaker 1: never shows up on the YouTube channel. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to speak out of turn here. I thought last week's episode,

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Speaker 1: even though it dropped on a Friday, was one of

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Speaker 1: the best ones we've ever done. So if you had

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Speaker 1: taken it upon yourself to skip over that episode, that

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Speaker 1: is your constitutional right. I would just suggest to you

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Speaker 1: you may want to go back and check that one out.

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Speaker 1: I thought we had a really good flow in that one,

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Speaker 1: really good questions, and it went very well. So you

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Speaker 1: do with your morning commute tomorrow what you will. That's

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Speaker 1: what I would suggest. We got some unpopular takes to

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Speaker 1: get to here. There's a there's a very good pace

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Speaker 1: on the show right now. Some people said, by the

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Speaker 1: time we got to the Unpopular Takes portion of the

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Speaker 1: show tonight, we already would have been an hour in

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Speaker 1: and it's only seven forty here in the Central time zone.

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Speaker 1: I've still got a few things to get to. But

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Speaker 1: don't worry. We're on a We're making good time right here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Unpopular Take number one, Eddie hit me and said, James

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Speaker 1: Franklin is just not a good football coach. James Franklin

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Speaker 1: is not a good football coach, says Eddie. Let's be

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Speaker 1: clear what Eddie didn't say. Eddie didn't say Franklin's just overrated.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say Franklin's not elite. He didn't say, well

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Speaker 1: he's not top five. He just find out said he's

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Speaker 1: not a good football coach. Just not good, which translates

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Speaker 1: to bad. I think that's the opposite. If you're not good,

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Speaker 1: you're bad. He is one of five active FBS head

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Speaker 1: coaches with a sixty six or better winning percentage pretty decent.

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Speaker 1: Penn State has finished top twelve six of the last

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Speaker 1: eight seasons, which means they would have probably been a

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Speaker 1: playoff team six of the last eight seasons. He's won

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Speaker 1: a Big Ten championship, double digit wins five of the

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Speaker 1: last seven seasons, eighth best odds to win the whole

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Speaker 1: thing this year. Here's what Memi used to always tell

842
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Speaker 1: me about bad head coaches. She said, Joshua, bad head

843
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Speaker 1: coaches don't make it over a decade at major programs.

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Speaker 1: And then when I questioned her, she said, you know

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Speaker 1: what else bad head coaches don't do. They don't win

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Speaker 1: nine games twice at Vanderbilt. And I said, me, while

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Speaker 1: you got a point there, bad James Franklin not a

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Speaker 1: good head coach, a bad head coach. Here's what we

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Speaker 1: always do with James Franklin. It's like a merry go round,

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00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: same version, different versions of the same game we always

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Speaker 1: played on this show. Someone will come and they'll say

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Speaker 1: James Franklin and Penn State are overrated, and then I'll say,

853
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: what are they rated? And then they'll they won't give

854
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: me a straight answer, And basically we'll always boil it

855
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: down to the fact that James Franklin is the most

856
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: properly rated head coach in America. He's not in front

857
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: of anyone he shouldn't be in front of. He is

858
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: not behind anyone that he should be behind. He's absolutely

859
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: rated where he should be. There are a million different

860
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: dynamics in play with every coach. If I had Franklin

861
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: in here right now and I told him we're off

862
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: the air, inject this truth serum into your arm, he

863
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: would explain his existence. He would explain exactly why they

864
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: are where they are. He would explain exactly what is

865
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: needed to take the next step, like all of it

866
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: would be laid out. But every coach can do that.

867
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: We run out of truth serum. We don't even have enough. Also,

868
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't even think they know the address to the

869
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: building here. But point being, Franklin Is and Penn State,

870
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: there is no more properly rated program. So even if

871
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: you say they're overrated, even if you say he's overrated,

872
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have pushback for you. But if you tell

873
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: me he's not good, I don't even think that's so

874
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: much a matter of opinion. You're just wrong, Like objectively,

875
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: you're just wrong on that one. Next up, this is

876
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: going to be a fun one. Unpopular college football takes

877
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Nate has one, He said, many popular TV analysts don't

878
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: actually want traditionally bad teams to get better. They want

879
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: the same teams to be good every year. Now here's

880
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: what Nate just did. He made a lot of you

881
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: nod your head, a lot of you believe this, a

882
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: lot of you are on board with this. In fact,

883
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure how unpopular this is. More I

884
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: think about it, I think this may be a popular take.

885
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I cannot speak for every TV analyst, nor am I

886
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna try to. Here's what I will say. I get

887
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: accused of this a lot, and it's not true about me.

888
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite. I wish all the bad teams would

889
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: end up spiking, like I wish if I looked across

890
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: the college football landscape, there's no team that was in

891
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: the ditch for more than two or three years in

892
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: a row. Now, somebody has to lose for other teams

893
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: to win, obviously, and in college football, you're never gonna

894
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: have total equality across the board and resources and whatnot.

895
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna have haves and have nots. But

896
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I think sometime times, if you watch a broadcast and

897
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: let's say, oh, pick Michigan. Let's say you're watching Michigan

898
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: versus Eastern Michigan or someone like that. Michigan's gonna get

899
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: a whole lot more airtime, The announcers are gonna sound

900
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: a whole lot more excited about talking Michigan. They're gonna

901
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: have more familiarity with Michigan. And that could be taken

902
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: to mean they're rooting for Michigan or they like Michigan more.

903
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: It's just it's just human nature. You'd be the same

904
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: way if you were in their shoes. You may not

905
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: believe me on that I experienced this. Sometimes. I'll give

906
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: you a perfect example. Three weeks ago, we did a

907
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: segment on Arizona, one of the worst performing pieces of

908
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: content we've ever produced on this show. The segment was fine,

909
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: delivery was fine, the points were good, nobody cared. Nobody

910
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: cared about it when we put it out, and so

911
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: we have to look around and we have to say,

912
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: are we really going to dedicate as much time talking

913
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Arizona as we do USC And the answers just got

914
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: to be no. Unless we're a charity, the ANSWER's got

915
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: to be no. Well, you could take that to mean

916
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't like Arizona, I want them to lose, or

917
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: you could take it to mean we got a show

918
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: to run, and we don't answer to the mirror, We

919
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: answer to the audience. I think broadcasters are the same way.

920
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I can't tell you across the board there's not favoritism,

921
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: because sure there'd be favoritism in case by case examples.

922
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: But the broad strokes allegation of well, the dude with

923
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: the microphones always against me. Because I'm an Indiana fan,

924
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: I don't normally buy that, and I think a lot

925
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: of the evidence is not necessarily evidence that shows what

926
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: you think it shows. So there are examples to the contrary,

927
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: but I think by and large the folks call in

928
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, just think about this from a

929
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: business standpoint. The more good teams you have, the more

930
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: interest you have in the sport. The more interest you have,

931
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: the more eyeballs are on the sport. The more eyeballs,

932
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: the more people see them. The more that people see them,

933
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: the more their value goes up. Therefore the bigger their paycheck.

934
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: Is same way it works with me. Why would I

935
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: want you to be bad? Why would any color analyst

936
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: on ESPN two want you to be bad? I don't know,

937
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe case by case there's an exception,

938
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: but by and large, I don't know. Let's move on

939
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: exceptional pay. I am not worried at all. We only

940
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: got two segments left. I'm not worried at all. But

941
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: their were concerns like Colin didn't even think he was

942
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: going to get dinner tonight, and Colin may be able

943
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: to eat twice at this rate. I need to take

944
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: a little sip from let me cover the label from

945
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: this nondescript water bottle on a company that just changed

946
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: their labeling. Wow, it's a shame they don't pay for

947
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: me to talk about it on here. Oh wow, this

948
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: next one. I don't ever do this. I don't ever

949
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: do what I'm about to do. But I couldn't ignore this,

950
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: could not ignore this. So let me let me, let

951
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: me set the scene for you. I don't go at

952
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: anyone in my space, like I really don't. I don't

953
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: play clips and then hate on folks. And I'm not

954
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 1: gonna do it tonight. I'm gonna do it out of love.

955
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: Some of you know the name SEC Mike. His name's

956
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Michael Bratton. He I've been on his show before. I

957
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: know the dude, wonderful, lovely person got a very interesting

958
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: cousin as well, but lovely person. Okay, So the reason

959
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I say all that is because it's it's about to

960
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: sound like we're trying to dunk on sec Mike. I'm

961
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: not trying to do that. Someone brought to my attention

962
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 1: the other day that he had made some comments about

963
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze and how Hugh Freeze is going about rebuilding

964
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: things at Auburn. And he absolutely is rebuilding things at Auburn,

965
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: and I again, I love the guy. I have never

966
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: heard thirty seconds of more wrong than I heard. Colin.

967
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: Just roll this, let him hear it for themselves.

968
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm not behind the hype. I don't like the way

969
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: up Freeze is going about this. I ain't spending a

970
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: million dollars on a quarterback, but you don't have to

971
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: go to the dollar store to get a quarterback either. Peugh,

972
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: I think his reputation is overblown because he beat Alabama twice.

973
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: People forget that he lost to Vanderbilt twice in that

974
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: same span. I think he is not an elite coach,

975
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: and I don't like the way he's building it through

976
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: high school. You could do that four or five years ago.

977
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: I think you have to do it in the portal

978
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: these days, I think there's a good chance heading into

979
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: next season, U Freeze is on one of the hotter

980
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: seats in the SEC.

981
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: It's tough to listen to. So I'm going to walk

982
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: through this as calmly as I can. I ain't spending

983
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: one million on a quarterback, but you don't have to

984
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: go to the dollar store either. Now I assume this

985
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: is in reference to the fact that they really didn't

986
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: go out and drop big money for a quarterback in

987
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: the portal. I actually thought that was a shrewd and

988
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: sound I owned approach from Hugh Freeze because I think

989
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: they knew were more than a quarterback away, so let's

990
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: take the money that it would take. And they got

991
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: folks who know what they're doing on that front behind

992
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: the scenes at Auburn, I can promise you. And they said,

993
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: let's go get as many big time talents as we can,

994
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: and let's stick with Peyton Thorn. I mean, we don't

995
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: have poverty at the quarterback position. Now we brought in

996
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: one as a true freshman. Maybe he's the future, or

997
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: maybe this time next year we go drop a pretty

998
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: big bag for a quarterback that could big a difference

999
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five twenty twenty four, Auburn was not

1000
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: going to be a quarterback away from contending for the SEC.

1001
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: And they knew that. They knew that because of their

1002
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: entry point, they knew that because of what was on

1003
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: the team when they walked in, and it was not

1004
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: a good situation. And this year we'll still be a

1005
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: little bit of a learning curve and you're gonna have

1006
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: to take some lumps again this year. But also I

1007
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: will address the other part of that. I'm not spending

1008
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: one million on a quarterback. Brother, you better if you

1009
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: want a big time quarterback, you better be ready to

1010
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: spend seven figures on one. So I don't want to

1011
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: get all caught up on the first point, because there

1012
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: were like five wrong points in this next. I think

1013
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: his reputation's overblown because he beat Bama twice. Well, he

1014
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: beat twenty fourteen Bama that went on to win the SEC.

1015
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: He beat twenty fifteen Bama that went on to win

1016
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: the SEC and the whole national title. That's a pretty

1017
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: good reputation builder. Now he brought up that he lost

1018
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: twice to Vandy. He lost in his first and last

1019
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: seasons to Vandy. And I don't know many coaches out

1020
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: there outside of the literal best in America that don't

1021
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: have those upset blips on the radar screen, especially coaching

1022
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: at a place like Old miss But dude, absolutely, his

1023
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: reputation is based nationally on beating Nick Saban twice. If

1024
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: that's so easy to do, roll out the list of

1025
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: the other ones that have done it. There aren't very many.

1026
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: There aren't very many at all. Third allegation. I don't

1027
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: want them calling allegations. There just takes Oh boy, this

1028
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: one got me. Now this, I poured some talent all

1029
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: out for this. I don't like the way he's building

1030
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: it through high school. You could do that four or

1031
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: five years ago. You have to do it through the

1032
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: portal these days. No, no, no, no, no, no no.

1033
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: We're talking about how Hugh Freeze is not elite apparently.

1034
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: Could you find me one elite coach on or off

1035
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: the record who tells you, yes, screw high school recruiting, dude,

1036
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: we're doing this thing through the portal. Nobody's doing that.

1037
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: Even Kiffin's not actually doing that. Kiffin's even recruiting out

1038
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: of high school. They're just using the portal a little

1039
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: bit more. They By the way, Freeze was fourth in

1040
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: the portal is first year there. So they have used

1041
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: the portal, but they shifted, as they should as a

1042
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: sound thinking coaching staff, towards leaning on high school recruiting.

1043
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: You want to know where you want to look to

1044
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: see a failed experiment along the lines of what we're

1045
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: suggesting here. Ask Lincoln Riley how much continuity he felt.

1046
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: You're one of year two to now you're three of

1047
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: leaning on the portal too hard and ask him what

1048
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: he's trying to do now. I ask him he was

1049
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: doing an Adam Brenneman sit down that I thought was

1050
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: really interesting this past week. How much did he talk

1051
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: about the portal for? How much did he talk about

1052
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: high school recruiting. The name of the game has not changed.

1053
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: You want to build a sustained winner, You're going to

1054
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: do it through high school recruiting, and you're gonna fill

1055
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: holes and you're gonna put little cherries on top via

1056
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. And maybe you treat the quarterback position different,

1057
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe you don't, but nobody now, I don't care if

1058
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: it's four or five or forty or fifty years ago.

1059
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: Nobody's doing it any different. Today to win championships than

1060
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: they were. The way you pay kids may be changing,

1061
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: and the way that you may be able to leverage

1062
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: that portal here and there may be a little more

1063
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: extreme than transfers in years gone by. There's no elite

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Speaker 1: staff out there. Kirby Smart de Bord, Alabama, Ryan Dade,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. You can point out the exceptions. You could

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Speaker 1: point out the players they went and got out of

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Speaker 1: the portal. No one suggesting Auburn shouldn't do that. Get

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Speaker 1: them on the record and ask them you're ready to

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Speaker 1: forego old school high school recruiting tactics and just lean

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Speaker 1: on the portal. They'll laugh you out of the building.

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Speaker 1: They'll ask how you got in the building. Also, I

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Speaker 1: could go seven and five this year and his seat's

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Speaker 1: not hot next year. They're over underwent total seven and

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Speaker 1: a half, you know. So that's where the fan duel

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Speaker 1: expectation is for Auburn. He's entering year two with a

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Speaker 1: roster that was not SEC caliber when he got there.

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Speaker 1: I'm just stating facts. Their entry point was pretty low

1080
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Speaker 1: relative to what you would expect an Auburn roster to be.

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Speaker 1: It was really low. And I think most people know that,

1082
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: like I think the fan base got that. They certainly

1083
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Speaker 1: got it. They didn't know, they knew when they got there.

1084
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Speaker 1: They've recruited at a top ten level. There's really good

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Speaker 1: energy in the building there they've got And I can't

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Speaker 1: stress this enough. They've got good minds behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: They got folks who understand how this thing works. They've

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00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a perfect operation. They've got their

1089
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: fair share of warts internally, just like anyone else does.

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Speaker 1: They are equipping themselves to win long term. I actually

1091
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Speaker 1: have very little doubt about that. And so again I

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Speaker 1: want to wrap this up by saying, I love our

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Speaker 1: buddy Michael Bratton. We'll probably see him at Media Days

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Speaker 1: next month and I will hug him just like I

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Speaker 1: always do. But man, we should talk about this. We

1096
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Speaker 1: should revisit this. I wish I had him in studio tonight.

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Speaker 1: We should revisit this, because that one floored me. I

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Speaker 1: had Jesse play me the clip earlier today because one

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Speaker 1: of you asked about it. Jesse, that was a thirty

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Speaker 1: we just do this on the show. Lastly, before we

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I've got some actually got

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Speaker 1: a fairly big announcement here. Bold predictions are back. I

1151
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: have three bold predictions on the show tonight that are

1152
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: nine point five or higher on the boldness scale. And

1153
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you know the rule around here. If you make a

1154
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: prediction that's nine point five higher on the boldness scale

1155
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: and it comes true, you get a chalice of supremacy.

1156
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot on the line in the next

1157
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Speaker 1: few minutes. Prediction number one, this is from Arvada, Colorado,

1158
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders or Travis Hunter will be in the running

1159
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: for the Heisman. One of them will win it. It

1160
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be so bold until they said one

1161
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: of them will win it. Travis Hunter is currently tied

1162
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: for having the twenty fifth best odds. Shadoor Sanders currently

1163
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: tied for having the eighteenth best odds. So they're in

1164
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: there like they're in the picture. Only four non quarterbacks

1165
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: since two thousand have won this thing, and only one

1166
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: of them was a wide receiver. That was DeVante Smith

1167
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: a few years ago. So you need like a full

1168
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: and Charles Woodson type year from Shudur Sanders, and you

1169
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: also need to win. The team has to win like

1170
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: like Travis Hunter. I meant Shudurer Sanders as well. Colorado's

1171
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: offensive Line's got to be good enough to protect him.

1172
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: But either one of them, you got to have a

1173
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: winning team. Jesse told me this earlier today, and I

1174
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: would not have known this because I don't pay attention

1175
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: to the Heisman a lot. There's only been one instance

1176
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety eight of a dude winning the Heisman

1177
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: on a team that had less than nine wins, and

1178
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: I think that was the Ricky Williams year at Texas.

1179
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: So they've got to win. They gotta win a lot

1180
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: more than they're expected to win this year. This is

1181
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Speaker 1: a nine point five on the boldness scale to me.

1182
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: Next up another nine point five. Here, take the teams

1183
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: that won their conferences. I think all these won a

1184
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: conference one, two three, Yeah, they all won their conference

1185
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: last year. So from Powder Springs, Georgia, Grant said all

1186
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: four twenty twenty three playoff teams will fail to make

1187
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: the playoff in twenty twenty four. So Michigan minus one

1188
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: oh five odds to make it right now, Washington plus

1189
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: eight eighty, so they're a long shot. Bama plus one

1190
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Speaker 1: twenty four, Texas minus two thirty. Clearly, Washington making the

1191
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: playoff would be a minor miracle this year. But the

1192
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: other three are in the top ten odds to make

1193
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: it to win the whole thing. Actually, so the other

1194
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: three are expected to be right in the mix. And

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Speaker 1: you're telling me none of them make it. Michigan, Texas,

1196
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Speaker 1: Bama all top ten playoff championship odds. You're telling me

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Speaker 1: none of them make it. None of them. And also

1198
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Speaker 1: Texas and Michigan play each other this year in non

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Speaker 1: conference play, So think about Week two whichever team wins that,

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Speaker 1: not only are they probably gonna have a good year

1201
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Speaker 1: in conference, they'll have a massive out of conference feather

1202
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Speaker 1: in their cap. How how is the winner of that

1203
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Speaker 1: game going to go on and miss the playoff? So anyway,

1204
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Speaker 1: this is a nine point five on the boldness scale.

1205
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: I think two or more of these teams are going

1206
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Speaker 1: to be in. Wouldn't surprise me if three out of

1207
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Speaker 1: the four we're in, that's a nine point five. Next up,

1208
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Speaker 1: we take a serious turn towards negative town here, and

1209
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Speaker 1: this comes from Ackworth, Georgia. Dante says LSU is going

1210
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: six and six or worse, which is news because they're

1211
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Speaker 1: total right now is nine and a half over under

1212
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Speaker 1: win total nine and a half. This millennium, LSU five

1213
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Speaker 1: hundred or worse finished. They've done it twice and it

1214
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: was recently. It was both twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

1215
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Speaker 1: I think, so it has happened. But I was just

1216
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Speaker 1: thinking along the lines of, like, what has to go

1217
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Speaker 1: wrong this year and there is a scenario where things

1218
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Speaker 1: go really wrong. Maybe Garrett Nusmeyer is just not the

1219
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Speaker 1: quarterback that you need him to be and you're trying

1220
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Speaker 1: to replace Jaden Daniels. Maybe the running game it never

1221
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Speaker 1: quite pans out the way you wanted it to. The

1222
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Speaker 1: offensive lines not there, like the road grading unit that

1223
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Speaker 1: you thought it would be. Maybe major injury hits them,

1224
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Speaker 1: defense doesn't take any kind of step forward. If those

1225
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Speaker 1: things were to happen. There's a world where LSU is

1226
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Speaker 1: that bad this year. But all that's got to happen,

1227
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Speaker 1: I think for them to be that bad, and I

1228
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Speaker 1: just don't think that a Brian Kelly team's gonna be

1229
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Speaker 1: that bad. So this is a nine on the boldness

1230
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Speaker 1: scale for me. They also, Colin, could you show me

1231
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Speaker 1: their schedule right quick? They play an SEC schedule, but

1232
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Speaker 1: they don't play like the Florida version of an SEC schedule.

1233
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Speaker 1: So they've got USC to open the season. They're nearly

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Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite against USC out in Las Vegas. They've

1235
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Speaker 1: got Bama at home. They don't play Texas in the

1236
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Speaker 1: regular season. They don't play Georgia in the regular season.

1237
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Speaker 1: They got ole Miss at home, so got an Oklahoma

1238
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Speaker 1: at home at the end of the year. I keep

1239
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Speaker 1: forgetting about that. Six and six, five and seven. It's

1240
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Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit too bold. I'm gonna

1241
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Speaker 1: make it a nine. And lastly, this was fun. This

1242
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Speaker 1: is a nine point five. But I'm gonna tell you why.

1243
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Speaker 1: Jacob from Holland, Michigan said, both teams from Iowa make

1244
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Speaker 1: their conference championship games. And my question is, how is

1245
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: Iowa going to make the Big ten championship game? So

1246
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Iowa State has the fifth best odds to win the

1247
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Speaker 1: Big twelve, Iowa has the sixth best odds to win

1248
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Iowa State as of today. I got

1249
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: no problem with this for obvious reasons. And if you're

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Speaker 1: new to the show and it's not obvious, I love

1251
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Speaker 1: Iowa State. So there's your reason. They do have a

1252
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Speaker 1: top ten team in returning production this year. I guess

1253
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Speaker 1: the bad news, if you want to call it that

1254
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Speaker 1: is I told you they have the fifth best odds

1255
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Speaker 1: to win the conference. They play all four teams in

1256
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Speaker 1: front of them. They play Kansas State, they play Utah

1257
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Speaker 1: back to back by the way to end the year.

1258
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Speaker 1: So they play all the teams in front of them.

1259
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Speaker 1: They do play Iowa in Week two. These teams play

1260
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Speaker 1: each other, it won't matter because it's not a conference game.

1261
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Speaker 1: So I actually I think Iowa State's got a fairly

1262
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: decent shot here to make it. Now they don't have

1263
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Speaker 1: to win it to make it Iowa. It's such a

1264
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: major shift in the Big Ten this year with no divisions. Previously,

1265
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Speaker 1: they just had to win the West. Now they've got

1266
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: to legitimately be one of the two best teams in

1267
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: the conference. And they've got Ohio State, they got Michigan,

1268
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Speaker 1: they got Oregon out there. They have got to finish

1269
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: ahead of all but one of those teams. And I

1270
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: just flat out think that's going to be really difficult.

1271
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Speaker 1: And that's not even to say anything about how much

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