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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Golf Live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot com. I'm smokes. The phone

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Speaker 1: number for you is two one four five one three.

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Speaker 1: Happy off season, everybody, I guess officially in the Giants

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen season is over. They finished the year

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Speaker 1: five and eleven another very tight games similar to the

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Speaker 1: one they had against the Colts Jeff uh And much

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Speaker 1: like against the Colts, the defense could not get a

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Speaker 1: stop when they needed it and the Giants fall to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys thirty six to thirty five. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you look at this team and how they lost some

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Speaker 1: of these ball games this year, and they didn't win five.

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Speaker 1: They could easily be sitting here with eight or nine games,

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Speaker 1: and we can do the gifts and the butts and

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Speaker 1: the candies and nuts and all that good stuff. But

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Speaker 1: bottom line is the defense has to improve and it

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Speaker 1: needs a lot more players. And does need a lot

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Speaker 1: more players. And Paul Tino and I were talking about

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Speaker 1: this a little bit in the press boss yesterday. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry about that exactly, but was fun. It was good.

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Speaker 1: It's good substance. Maybe one player at each level, defensive line, linebacker, safety.

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Speaker 1: On the defensive side, I would contend they need to

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Speaker 1: pass rushers at least one good I mean like a guy,

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Speaker 1: a playmaker, a guy that that will will be able

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Speaker 1: to help you win some of those games in the

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Speaker 1: last two minutes because you make a sack or you

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Speaker 1: make a big play, a pressure that maybe forces the

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Speaker 1: quarterback to throw an interception. Some some sort of big

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Speaker 1: play potential out of those guys. And we know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about them for months to come. Now there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of them coming up in the draft. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it'll be shock full of those types of players. So, um,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things about the game je real quick,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll do more of a season wrap up folks,

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Speaker 1: and will take your calls at two, one, n five,

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Speaker 1: one three. It's been a busy morning. Um, I haven't

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Speaker 1: really had a chance to look at the tape. So

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Speaker 1: we've been doing interviews with players, coach at his last

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Speaker 1: press conference, We've been doing inside the film rooms which

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Speaker 1: are going Giants dot com. So a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: Um So again, I don't think people really care much

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Speaker 1: about the game, given it was kind of an exhibition game.

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Speaker 1: The good news for the Johnians, even though they lost,

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Speaker 1: they do still get the sixth pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: which they moved up a couple of spots. They were

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Speaker 1: eight heading into the week. They won. They lost rather

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Speaker 1: a couple of other teams that had them won and

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Speaker 1: that kind of helped him out in that regard, which

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Speaker 1: is good for the New York Football Giants. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: offense again, Jeff played well ent off to win against

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Speaker 1: the good Cowboys defense. Yes, they scored on six straight

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Speaker 1: possessions from their final drive at the first half when

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They scored on sixth straight possessions. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the one that killed him was the final one, which

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Speaker 1: turned out to be a field goal they get, they

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Speaker 1: then you get a chat wheel Er hold, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I looked at the tape on that particular play,

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Speaker 1: it was dicey hold. He kind of hooked the guy

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Speaker 1: killed that drive. It's made him kick a field goal

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to win. And to you know, we didn't

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Speaker 1: know when we talked about in our pregame show who

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Speaker 1: was going to be playing offensively defensively for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Stop playing the whole game, by the way, But let

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Speaker 1: me just tell you something. Look at the defensive side

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the Giants, and we're gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they scored, you know, a lot of points against a

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Speaker 1: The defense played the whole game. So that offense for

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Speaker 1: this game is one of them because there's good and

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Speaker 1: a very good defensive football team. I wouldn't say that

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Speaker 1: Well in general, Jeff, I mean, look, the Cowboys didn't

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Speaker 1: the offense the first half improved, the second half. The defense.

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Speaker 1: I never for once could say that I thought that

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Speaker 1: this game you lost Grant Haley or slot corner. Uh.

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Speaker 1: sure what was going through it said on that play,

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Speaker 1: and I think you made a good point. Heading into

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Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that they finally got to

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Speaker 1: an interesting um evolution of this team from the start

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Speaker 1: some of those scores were on defense or set up

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Speaker 1: Look what they can do with him next year. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting. Yeah, they average twenty seven point three points

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Speaker 1: Will they continue to play this way when Beckham gets back?

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Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna frankly require Odell to understand

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Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna get my thirteen targets a game. Now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm only gonna get eight targets and catch six passes,

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Speaker 1: But those six passes are going to be really impactful

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Speaker 1: because Pat Charmer is said to us Jeff that he

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Speaker 1: That's about right right. So he completes twenty five catches.

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Speaker 1: if there's a big difference in terms of who a

429
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Speaker 1: better players, you pick the best player. Giants are still

430
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Speaker 1: on a to quote my beloved terrible New York Knickerbockers,

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Speaker 1: they're in a talent acquisition phase at this point. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not picking for knee. I'm picking best player.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, then there probably will be a

434
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Speaker 1: defensive end there because you're five and eleven team, I'll

435
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Speaker 1: find room for you on the field. Okay, if you're

436
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Speaker 1: really good, I'll find space for you. So look, I

437
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: think the way this draft is has kind of filtered out.

438
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Speaker 1: At six, I think they will have a chance to

439
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Speaker 1: draft an elite level defensive alignement, whether it's a pass

440
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Speaker 1: rushing interior alignment or a defensive end. Again, I don't

441
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Speaker 1: know what they think of Haskins, and I don't know

442
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: if he's coming out. That could be the only thing

443
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: that changes the formula. But to find out, yeah, well, yeah,

444
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: the deadlines in about two weeks, so we're gonna know

445
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: pretty soon. And I think he's gonna come out, especially

446
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: given Herbert isn't and he's going to be the consensus

447
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: number one, which means he'll get picked very high. But

448
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I mean, look, I will not rule

449
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Speaker 1: out a right tackle, Jeff. I will not rule it out.

450
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Speaker 1: But at this point, and again I haven't studied any

451
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Speaker 1: of these guys yet, I think it's going to be

452
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Speaker 1: a defensive one. But like get him and loves the trenches,

453
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Speaker 1: you know that. Let me ask you one more question. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: we'll get to our calls. But I think that there's

455
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Speaker 1: a flat Here's maybe a scenario. You got the six

456
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Okay, Um, you're not very keen

457
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Speaker 1: on any of the quarterbacks, and you're and you're setting yourself.

458
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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna go with the line next year, Okay,

459
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Speaker 1: this is the scenario. This is the assumptions. Would you

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Speaker 1: at that number six position trade down with somebody wanting

461
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Speaker 1: to get up to acquire another first round draft pick

462
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Speaker 1: and either use it this year or save it for

463
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Speaker 1: next year when there is better quarterback positions coming up?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think it depends how far down you

465
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Speaker 1: have to go. Okay, so it'd still like to get

466
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Speaker 1: a high level defensive lineman or right tackle if possible. Okay,

467
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Speaker 1: let me give you this. You're at You're at twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That's a long way I would like. Can I stay

469
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Speaker 1: in the top fifteen? I don't think that will happen?

470
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Speaker 1: What if? What if? What if I'm picking fifteen and

471
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Speaker 1: I pick up an extra one next year? Yes, to

472
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Speaker 1: make that move that And my point is I know

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Speaker 1: that I would certainly do. And here's the only reason

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is, like, Jeff, is I want an

475
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Speaker 1: impact guy. You need an impact player on the defensive line,

476
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Speaker 1: and at twenty two, I don't know. If I'm remember

477
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Speaker 1: what your guy said yesterday on our pregame show, you

478
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Speaker 1: might you might be able to get some good, good

479
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Speaker 1: talent in the second third round. Yeah, but maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Elite though. But let me ask you a question. If

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Speaker 1: you are so keen on the idea that next year

482
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Speaker 1: is going to be your quarterback year, and you want

483
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Speaker 1: to be able to move up as high as your

484
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Speaker 1: game because you're gonna be a better team picking later,

485
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Speaker 1: like your thought process, then maybe that's why you do

486
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Speaker 1: what I just said. I think your thought process makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Sure, you can always also think

488
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Speaker 1: about if you want to. You you want to debating

489
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Speaker 1: how you're moving assets around. If you ideas of trading

490
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Speaker 1: a veteran, you save that guy keeping around one more

491
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Speaker 1: year and then maybe you use him in next year's

492
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Speaker 1: draft if you want to move up to you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, same exact thought process exactly. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Someone was doing some deep thought over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Jeff Fiegel. I like it. I was on

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Speaker 1: I walked today, my walk this morning. I was like

497
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Speaker 1: thinking about all this stuff because now, what's a good

498
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Speaker 1: point because now we're turning the key to the postseason,

499
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Speaker 1: which is king here with all the draft stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so good at that stuff, but that's okay.

501
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: You're already into it though, I think I know. But

502
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Speaker 1: what I'm I'm okay with it where our team stuff,

503
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, but when it gets globally with all the

504
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: draft stuff, I'm not so good at that. But that's okay. Well,

505
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: you'll see you've done really good with all the guests

506
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Speaker 1: you've had on the show, so you've been top of things.

507
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Speaker 1: So I bet some people got some things to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. At two, one, four, five, one three.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to your calls, I want to remind

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Speaker 1: you that Big Book Kick Off Live is presented proudly

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Speaker 1: by cores Light download. The Corps Light rewards that to

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Speaker 1: an amazing giant prizes throughout the season. Let's do it,

513
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Speaker 1: Jeff and Rhode Island Online one will lead us off well.

514
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, fellas too. I hope next year is

515
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Speaker 1: a much better scenario for us and in New York football.

516
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we're talking about playoffs on this day next year,

517
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Speaker 1: Mr New York Area. I certainly hope. So I am

518
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Speaker 1: really really disappointed, it says everybody is. But yeah, I

519
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: think on the face of it, you've got to say

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00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that the defense needs a whole lot, a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more work than the whole mot walk more upgrading than

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Speaker 1: the offense. Does, and I think Johnny, you're right. You know,

523
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Speaker 1: in regards to the edge Rushes, we've got to come

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Speaker 1: up with two real good guys some somehow, as long

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Speaker 1: as we're not doing or repeating the mistake that you

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Speaker 1: know we made with the signing OV a couple of

527
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Speaker 1: years ago, because that hasn't worked out. Jeff, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see us. I don't think, frankly,

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Speaker 1: they have the capital or in the position to have

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Speaker 1: another super big splash. This off seat is in the

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Speaker 1: in the fuging market. I don't think that's gonna happen.

532
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Speaker 1: So I would rest easy in that way. I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I see I see it happening through the draft, which is,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, the right way to go. I mean, you

535
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Speaker 1: can't be you can't be throwing money at all these

536
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Speaker 1: guys like that. I mean, you just can't do it

537
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: because usually it doesn't end up very well. Most of

538
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Speaker 1: the time it doesn't. You're right, I got a question

539
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Speaker 1: for you. Eric Ingram's touchdown yesterday. Okay, okay, they threw

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Speaker 1: him the ball, they showed the replay, and this this

541
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Speaker 1: happens quite frequently, so I'm kind of confused. Why why

542
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Speaker 1: they call it a touchdow because you can see has

543
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Speaker 1: the ball, he's lunging legend for the pylon, but both

544
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Speaker 1: of his feet are already hanging out of bounds. Well,

545
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Speaker 1: he's not because when he left the field to play,

546
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Speaker 1: his feet were inbounds and they haven't. They haven't touched

547
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Speaker 1: out of bounds. And then you know the impetus at

548
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Speaker 1: the ball. It goes across the goal line the plane,

549
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Speaker 1: and then there's a touchdown, and it has the ball

550
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Speaker 1: has to be on the left side of the pylon.

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Speaker 1: That's the key. The pylon is the key there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as long as he is not touching out of bounds, Jeff,

553
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Speaker 1: and he's in mid air, where the ball is marked

554
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Speaker 1: or if it's considered a touchdown is completely determined when

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Speaker 1: the ball crosses onto the white line out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: So if it goes over the pylon, the pylon is

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Speaker 1: considered inbounds and a touchdown, So it's over the play lion,

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Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. If that all gets completely out of

559
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Speaker 1: bounds before gets to the pylon, it's not going to

560
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: be a score, are you Okay? So as long as

561
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Speaker 1: his feet as long as his feet are in the air,

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Speaker 1: he's considered in bounds. Is that correct? And he left

563
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Speaker 1: he left in bounds obviously contn he would have been

564
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Speaker 1: out of bound. Yep. Okay, all right, well guys, Happy

565
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: New Year, Jack, you too. He's safe tonight, as as

566
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Speaker 1: everybody be safe tonight. I'm not a big are you

567
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: a big New Year's Eve? Guy? Well, first of all,

568
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Speaker 1: I can't stay until midnight. Didn't say. If I make

569
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: it the midnight tonight, after the dad I've had, that's

570
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a miracle. Yeah. I think for parents that

571
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Speaker 1: have four kids that are over the ages of twenty,

572
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: like me, I don't like. I don't like this night.

573
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: I really don't. I just it's just, you know, you

574
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: know you worry about them being safe. It's just they're stupid.

575
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's just dumb. What a what a It's

576
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: just okay, you turned the page of two thousand nineteen, alright,

577
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, big deal. The other thing I want to

578
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: caution fans at two and by the ones question him

579
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: like a time square guy. To me, you know you

580
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: don't get to head out there and camp out all day. No,

581
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Speaker 1: no way, Now what you would do? You would park

582
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: up on about a building and start using your pitching

583
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Speaker 1: wedge and hitting into the pecking him. Then I get

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Speaker 1: arrested for attempted murder. I'm gonna be that that kind

585
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: of crowd. I know, no no pass pass on, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other a few years ago, one of my sons,

587
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I think Trevor went down there and he was like, Dad,

588
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that when you get when you're in there,

589
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: you're trapped. You trapped, you have nowhere to go. You

590
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, can't pee or anything. And you

591
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: know they're drinking at the bars before and then they're

592
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna go stand out there for four hours, five hours

593
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: and some empty bottles. My friend, that or some of

594
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: those depends. Keep it, keep it. I was gonna say,

595
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: keep it, classy man there with that real quick to

596
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: five on three Christian in New York, Dave line four.

597
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: He's up next, Christian. What's up, pal? Hey. We were

598
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: having a good talk about ELI last week, about how

599
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: they should bring another guy in, and I know it

600
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: would just be a nightmare for you guys if it

601
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: was like a guy that already has some established ability

602
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: in the league. Um, but I think we're at a

603
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: point where they should stop having like one of the

604
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: worst backups in the league, because there's a chance that

605
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: Eli just really follows off a cliff with his play

606
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: is the way Peyton did. So what's your solution, Christian,

607
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: what's your solution? Who do you want? Well, well, there's

608
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: there should be some guys, like really, there's as You've

609
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: got to be specific for me. You can't be general.

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Speaker 1: If you want to do something like this, you gotta

611
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Speaker 1: come with some names. Give me a name, you Foles? Okay, Well,

612
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I would say nick Foles probably could play a little

613
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: better than Eli at this point, but I wouldn't say

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00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: it's a long term solution either. Hello, Nick Foles is

615
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: only twenty nine years old, And if you're bringing in

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, you're not He's not coming to here as

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00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: your backup. Okay, if nick Foles is coming here as

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00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: your starter, no, right, I know that I thought someone's

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Speaker 1: gonna pay the guy well that little, but I think

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Speaker 1: you can you get to the point you want to

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Speaker 1: bring in a good backup. So who's the good backup

622
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: you want to bring in? Well, really, I think it's

623
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: gonna be tough through free agency because, like we were saying,

624
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have a lot of money to do it.

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00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: But because of how good next year's quarterback classes, I

626
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Speaker 1: think a lot of these which class is good, notast

627
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Speaker 1: I don't know how good it is, And I think

628
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Speaker 1: I think the guys like Will Greer and the guys

629
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Speaker 1: in that tier are going to fall for the second

630
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: round because a lot of people, a lot of gms,

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Speaker 1: I think, are just gonna want to wait for the

632
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: really top shelf quarterbacks next year, and basically you're gonna

633
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: ask they might have to go with a guy like

634
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: that if if the whole Haskins thing doesn't end up happening.

635
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's a lot more fans

636
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: than you said the other day that have some middle

637
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: ground with Eli because he can obviously play a little

638
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: bit still, but you're just not getting much of a

639
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: feeling with him at this point. No, But that's my

640
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: point though. If that's your belief, then just move on.

641
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, Like like I said, you know, I'm

642
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: trying to base it on what I think the Giants

643
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: will do. So I would hope they could get a

644
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: backup like a guy like Blame Gabber or Kessler, you know,

645
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: guys that can at least just come in and manage

646
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: the game. So you're you're worried about him getting hurt,

647
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: he he doesn't get hurted. Look, this is no insult

648
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: to blame Gabert or Code Kessler. You're not going to

649
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, so blame Gabber or Cody Kessler. I mean,

650
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: did did you watch the game last night? Would playing

651
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Gabber thrown passes? Well, yeah, I'm saying they should bring

652
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: guys like that in in case Eli just totally falls

653
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: off next year. I'm not talking about getting hurt, but

654
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, because when in Peyton's last year, he was horrendous,

655
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: but he was lucky enough to be on an awesome

656
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: team that carried him. But you know, if Eli played

657
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: the way Peyton played in his last year next year,

658
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: it would look really ugly on this Giants team. And

659
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: I think at that point you'd have to get someone

660
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: else in there. Christian, I just don't understand why you're

661
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: so concerned about this. Eli hasn't missed a game in

662
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: this whole career because of injury. Why are you so

663
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: concerned about in Do you think that a sudden he's

664
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: just gonna throw thirty interceptions in the first six. I

665
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: don't even know if Cody Kessler is better than Alex Hanny. Seriously,

666
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I mean, what ever done? I mean,

667
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: we've at least seen him play. I mean, yeah, and

668
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: did you like what you saw? I wouldn't say that,

669
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: but I think because here's the thing. These quarterbacks don't

670
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: always gradually fall off, and that's what Eli has done

671
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: in the last two years. But he might actually just

672
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: fall off a cliff with his play next year. But

673
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: if that's the Cody Kessler is not your answer. If

674
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: that happens, Christian, thanks for the call. I got a

675
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: bunch of people on the line. I want to make

676
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: sure you get to him. Look, if you think he's

677
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna fall off, then reply place him. Don't bring in

678
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: some backup that's not going to bring it anywhere. If

679
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay three million dollars or something

680
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: for and and and and. I've I've made my point

681
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: on the second round quarterbacks too. If you believe in

682
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: one of them, and you're Dave gentleman, you think this

683
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be good, great, But spending these day

684
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: two picks on these quarterbacks that have like a five

685
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: percent chance of succeeding in general is a very risky proposition,

686
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: especially if you and we're never gonna know this because

687
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: we don't we don't get this information, so we just

688
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of try to come up with it. But if

689
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: your your thought process going into this draft, you have

690
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: to have a vision and have to have a plan.

691
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: And if your plan is that we don't like any

692
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks as two thousand and twenty is gonna

693
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: be our our year, then do not waste your second

694
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: round picks on quarterbacks. Bingo exactly So just and by

695
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: the way, and I guarantee they have a really good

696
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: feel for what Justin Herbert is because they just scatted

697
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: him this year expecting to come out. That's exactly right.

698
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: And so and he's only going to get better next year,

699
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, Brian, he didn't get hurt and that's kind

700
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: of good stuff. But I mean, he is going to

701
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: be your number one guy next year. And then you know,

702
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: there's always somebody else that kind of surfaces that you

703
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: don't really hear about, you know what I'm saying. No

704
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: one was talking about Haskins at the start of the

705
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: year that he was playing at the beginning of the year,

706
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: It's like, who is this guy out of nowhere one year?

707
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Not not not to say that a one year guy

708
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: can't play good at this level, because you look at

709
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky. He played one year at UNC and he's

710
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: doing fine. But um, they're two different quarterbacks. By the way.

711
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: The ones are runner ones. Well, Robisky is a runner

712
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know, but not like Haskins

713
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: has's has an arm though, I mean I can throw

714
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the ball, tell you what? Yeah, he does, and so

715
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: does so does the guy from Oklahoma, um, the Heisman

716
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Trophy winner. He's playing baseball. He's too small play football.

717
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: He's smart to play baseball. That sonny bonus he got

718
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: and you only get beat up. And he's he's fast.

719
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: He throws well, I'm sure yeah, you know what though,

720
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure all filing in his back pocket

721
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: the same way Drew Innson did. Where baseball is not

722
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: going so well, we'll jump back. So how does that work?

723
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Does he can he go re enter the draft years

724
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: from now someone will draft him then on his rights? Wow? Wow, interesting,

725
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: that's work. All right, Let's go next caller, Tim and Jackson,

726
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Tim's up next, high Tim Timothy Hi, Happy

727
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: New Year. You too feel with tios at the fifteen

728
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: seasons with US Giants at and Uh have a baby

729
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: with his wife Abby. Because the Giants acquired Andrew Luck

730
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: for the Coast, they changed, but twenty nights he first

731
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: from picking und pick Uh, Tim appreciate the call. I

732
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: can guarantee you one thing. The Cults are not trading

733
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck that I know for sure. No, And if

734
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: they did, you would need train them probably around four

735
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: first round picks, literally four first round picks. And you

736
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: know what it would be worth it. You might do good,

737
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: You might do the might Dick or Ricky Williams trade

738
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: yea more. You mean, honestly, you would have to trade

739
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: three or four first round picks. That's how good Andrew

740
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: Luck is that it's not even a discussion. They wouldn't

741
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: even do it then, and you would get the Captain

742
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck Twitter account tweeting about the Giants. I mean,

743
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: that's even that's even better. I didn't read the captain

744
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: look after the for him. I didn't get a chance

745
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: to read that one. And and if nobody knows what

746
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about, he has a Twitter, his twitter has

747
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: captain Well, that's not him, that's not him, but it's

748
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's absolutely it's his best. So basically the

749
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: joke is that Andrew Luck looked like a soldier from

750
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the Civil War with his beard, so they kind of

751
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: superimposed his face out to a Civil War uniform, and

752
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: he's he tweets as though he's a Civil War soldier,

753
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: and he tweets letters to his mother in between battles.

754
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good, all right. So I'll give you

755
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: to the one after the game yesterday, dearest mother, I

756
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: shall not be returning home quite yet. Our unit was

757
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: victorious and the hard fought reign so battle against the

758
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: Titans jubilation. Our men gave it all their might, save

759
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: for one ricochet. My side arm was true. We are

760
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: a watch with joy. I love you Andrew and now

761
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: as he gets ready for the playoffs, Dearest mother, our

762
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: celebration festivities were mighty, but brief. We begin our march

763
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: to Houston to thrice battle the Texans. Each unit has

764
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: a victory over the other. We shall drill among bulls

765
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: to better understand their tactics. I have equal parts confident

766
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: and anxious. Andrew. It's great. I need date to plaint

767
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: me some civil war music. Yeah, how about it to

768
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: copy the bob pop. Really they're very good. Alright, let's

769
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: get back to the call. That was a fun aside.

770
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to uh Steve in d C. He's up next,

771
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: high Steve. First of all, happy new year to you guys. Steve,

772
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: how are you, buddy? Happy new going on? John? We're good.

773
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you man. First of all,

774
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say shout out to Piles. You know,

775
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: I've never had the pleasure of talking to you, so

776
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: I thank you far you've done. Joe, thank you long

777
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: time fan of yours and of course of of my giants. John.

778
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: You know, I got a lot the same man. You know,

779
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: I got get you with that, buddy, get to it.

780
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Can I get Can I quit my get my quick renting?

781
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: And then I'll get out of your way? Go ahead,

782
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: go ahead. So first of all, I gotta say this,

783
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, no disrespect because I didn't

784
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: come on to do this. But I'm not a shammer

785
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: or gave jetherman guy. So I just want to I

786
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: just want to kind of qualify and everything I'm about

787
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: to say around that. But I do love it Johns,

788
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: and you know, and I ride with him because they

789
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: are they're big blue, So I do ride, and I

790
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: respect him for being Johns. But they just got a

791
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: whole lot to do before they've been before with him.

792
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's that's that want to say. Is this

793
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: number one. I don't even know why or whose nephew

794
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: Curtis Roddy is, but way too long to keep him

795
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: off the field. I'm so disgusted by that. Honestly, I

796
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: don't ever want to see him and again in my

797
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: life ever. Listen, I'm gonna leaving at that because we

798
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: lave me. Honestly, I've never been so angry at a

799
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: player that I was the way I felt about to do.

800
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I could have broken sell many things up.

801
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: It's just it was pre popul to watch all season

802
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: long for me, all season long, so it was it

803
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: was long over the Alright, Okay, I'm gonna get all right,

804
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak it up. Eli, it is my dog.

805
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: I love him, Okay, but here's the thing. Number One,

806
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: he has to come back because he's Eli. He has

807
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: to come back. Okay, he has I don't know, I'm

808
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: not active about it because I'm gonna be move on okay,

809
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: But he has to come back. Just can't come back.

810
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: The twenty three million dollars. Can't go it. Figure something out,

811
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: figure anything out, and we've got to. Now is the time.

812
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: It's not. I don't I'm so tired of people co

813
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: offer Now at the time. Then if we better get

814
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: has to. I don't care what happens. Move up to

815
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: number four and get askers, period. I don't care. I'd

816
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: rather do it a year early, which I know it's

817
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: already two years late my mind. But now is the

818
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: time I know I want to play for no other

819
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: move up. We can't aford to give nothing more up

820
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: than the position we're gonna be now. We earned this sock.

821
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Move up to number four and get taskers period. We

822
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: can get too many pass rushers in this dram to

823
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: sit here justifying going up and getting the boast of

824
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: anybody else. Man, we got enough picts. Carl lay dam

825
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: get my quarterback this year, Eli, groom him. Do what

826
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: you need to do. We respect you, we love you

827
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: for everything you do well your year, your last year

828
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: in your contact. But it's time to move on, Jamal Brown.

829
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: We can do better than that, man. And uh, that's

830
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: all i'mna saying. I'm gonna keep on a positive note.

831
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: The more we got pass Rushes with Arew Mass, we

832
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: could have been brought him up. Man, Come on, he's

833
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: my little favorite JPP. Listen, listen. I love y'all. Keep

834
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: doing your thing. Johns. Thanks for coming down on the

835
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: shakedown and in not much respect to you for doing that.

836
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Have a great new year. Happy to Steve.

837
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Don't don't. Don't be a stranger. Don't be a stranger, buddy.

838
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: Get to hear from you. A couple of things. One, folks,

839
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I've seen this online a little bit from certain people

840
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: and not from Steve. Steve. Steve's more reasonable. But you know,

841
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: like fire Sharmer and file catt Form coming off the

842
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: three people you need to like get a grip all right,

843
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: even if even if you don't like the job they've done.

844
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: The idea that it's ever a good idea to move

845
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: on from a coach at the GM after just one season,

846
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: that's what dysfunctional organizations do, Okay. John Marra didn't even

847
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: want to move on from Ben McAdoo after just two years,

848
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: but it got so bad he had no choice. But

849
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: that's not what the Giants like to do. They like continuity.

850
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: It was the same reason Jerry Reese wass here for

851
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: so long. They do not like to make changes in

852
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: those types of positions unless they really feel it's necessary.

853
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: So Asians not in today's world, John, there is no

854
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: patience in today's world. Give these guys a chance to

855
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: figure things out. That's why I asked you. And if

856
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: in a few years they don't, then you figure it out.

857
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: But you gotta give him three four years. I mean,

858
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: poor Steve Wilkes. I mean, look, I know they had

859
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: a bad team in Arizona this year, but one season.

860
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: But I think one season, and I think, and I

861
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: also think from what I read and heard about my parents.

862
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from Phoenix in Arizona, I get a

863
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: lot of information that Michael Bidwell is blowing up the

864
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: whole organization. So he got caught in kind of a

865
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: fire sale here, like it's everything is going scouting, and

866
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean everything. And I also heard that he was

867
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: not like let's go get him last year, something like

868
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: this is the last best guy I loved. I guess,

869
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: let's hire this guy well, yeah, but you know I

870
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: also heard on our red on Twitter that McCarthy doesn't

871
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: want anything any part of Arizona. So I'm just telling

872
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: you that when you talk about organizations and you talk

873
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: about the Arizona card and organization, that Iron organization is,

874
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: people are gonna want to coach here before they coach there.

875
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the other thing about Fire Gentleman and

876
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: Fire Schermer. That's where I asked you at the beginning

877
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: of the show, did this team get better? Yes? Better?

878
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: And it was because of those two guys at the

879
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: beginning and in fixing the roster. That is a very

880
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: very very very infinitesimally small portion of the fan base.

881
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: But I understand the people out there, but relax, even

882
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: don't be stupid. I still have you. No, it's our

883
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: job to educate to a certain extent, and what we

884
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't even have to educate with that, not with that, No,

885
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: that's just silly. It's silly, by the way, for those

886
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: that haven't keep eight of them, those that haven't kept track.

887
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: Here's the officially the coaches that should be let go.

888
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: H Todd Bowles from the Jets, Adam Gaze from the

889
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: Dolphins after they don't show up against the Bills in

890
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: the final week of the year. I think I think

891
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: that game, Oh that I Misspence Joseph A I was

892
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: running around. He's been let go um by the Denver Broncos.

893
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: John Elli will get another chance to hire a coach.

894
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: You maybe another chance to hire a quarterback. Dick Cutter,

895
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: who was not surprising at all, has been like, oh,

896
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: that was rumored for a long time. UM, I wonder

897
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. That offensive coordinated a really good

898
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: job for him, Todd Monken this year he might be

899
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: in the mix in some places for a for a

900
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: good job. The Bengals finally like going. Marvin lewis the

901
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: second longest headyar tenured head coach after Bill Belichick. UM.

902
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy obviously was fired earlier in the year. UH.

903
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes from Arizona let go um. Steve Sarkisian has

904
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: been fired by the Falcons and Mark Manuel their defensive

905
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: coordinator and their special teams coordinates Keith Armstrong, so Dan

906
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: Quinn will assume the role of defensive coordinator. UM. They

907
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: will search for an o C in a special teams

908
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: coach Ian Rappaport reported that Gary Kubiak would be a

909
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: strong candidate for the o C job. Interesting coaches who

910
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: are safe Jim Harbaugh, Doug Moron, and Ron Rivera. What

911
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: I say Jim John HARBORW I I think Jim Harbor

912
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: is probably safe and in Michigan too. But so that

913
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: that's where we are in terms of the coaches, Folks

914
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: to five on three Big Book Kick Off Life is

915
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: presented by cores Light. Download the cores Light Awards app

916
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: to an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Let's go

917
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: back to the phone and say hello to Chris and Syracuse. Chris,

918
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: what's up? Thu, Chris, what's up? And I didn't know

919
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: what such a really call? And so you guys were

920
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: talking about something earlier onto the show, and they got

921
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: me thinking about something I've been thinking quite a bit,

922
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: and that is um why, I don't know if this

923
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: is an observation of criticism or what taken? However you want,

924
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: why did it take O'Dell getting hurt? Two? Revert? I

925
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: guess we will use the word revert back to playing

926
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: football the way that it probably should be in terms

927
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: of balance. No, you know, I don't I don't think

928
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: it was his injury that prompted it, because we saw

929
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: it start, Chris, before the injury. We saw it against

930
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco. We saw it against Tampa when he was

931
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: still healthy, and they started running the ball better because

932
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line block better. The one thing that did

933
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: change is that you saw Evan Ingram get more involved

934
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: once he got hurt. That's where I think he saw

935
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: the big change. Yeah, well that's that's fair. And I'm

936
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: just saying, I hope that we can keep it there because, um,

937
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: as much as I love Odell and I do, I

938
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: do think that he's been um, he's kind of been

939
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: like the apple that it just seems like he wants

940
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: the targets, ELI wants to force from the ball, the

941
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: coaching wants to force from the ball and get him

942
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the ball. Maybe not forcing the ball, but sometimes I

943
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: feel like if you just look at the last few

944
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: years from a bird's eye view, it seemed like that

945
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: it's just this reoccurring theme that um, you know, McAdoo

946
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: fell into especially badly. But well, Chris, here's the thing.

947
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: He's here's a difference too, though. Real quick, when O'Dell

948
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: wasn't on the field, the first three years of his

949
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: career with the Giants, they couldn't score, so they almost

950
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: had to force him the ball in order to score

951
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: for the first time this year on their pat Sherman,

952
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: which is why I think Sherman and his offense deserve

953
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. This offense function at a fairly

954
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: high levels. Spare that Titans game in the bad weather

955
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: after Beckham got hurt. So I think that's where it's

956
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: a little bit different now when in the past, Odell

957
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: could go and say, hey, guys, look what I'm not playing.

958
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: You guys scored ten points a game. You need me. Now,

959
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: when he comes back, maybe he's seen he look, this

960
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: offense can still work without me. Maybe I need to

961
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: fit into the construct. And again I'm not saying he

962
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: doesn't want to. That's not what I meant to infer.

963
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe he says, look, let me fit

964
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: in here. Maybe I only get nine targets of game

965
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: instead of fifteen, and it's gonna be better off for

966
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: the team. And I think that's a damn good chance

967
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: that happens. That's true. That's true, and that's because it's

968
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: taken this long to clear out the rot like the

969
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: one criticism that Eli was getting not so much lately

970
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: but had been getting, was like, oh, you know, made

971
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: his career. They look at his like his facerrating when

972
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: throwing to Odell and then adversus everybody else and what

973
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: they couldn't do it? Who else do they have? They

974
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: don't have anybody and will tie and Sugar Ruben Randols.

975
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, haven't that Larry now? No? Yeah, right, And

976
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't thanks for let me kind of hit all

977
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: these points rapid fire is um. I'm all in with

978
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: Sherman and gentleman. I think that you know, what we're

979
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: just talking about proves what a good job that they've done.

980
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: That this offensive storming is scoring over thirty without it now,

981
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: which is great. But I don't understand why yesterday, at

982
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the end of that game, or you were on the

983
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: fifty and we go four straight passed the ten yards,

984
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: there was plenty of time to try to get down

985
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: either in for a field goal attempt um or you

986
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: know something else. I I you know, I just I'm

987
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused about that. It was aggressive and

988
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I like it, but I'm almost like, you know, I

989
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: don't think it was necessary to try to just pick

990
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: up ten yards. Well, Chase, I don't put it this way.

991
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what Shermer called if Eli changed to

992
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: a pass or anything like that, but they certainly did

993
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: have time at the forty seven yard line with a

994
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: minute eleven to go with two timeouts. If they wanted

995
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: to run the football, they certainly could have. I think

996
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: that's fair. And they also, yeah, they could have run

997
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: the football, and they also could have worked the middle

998
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: of the field better. Remember the first throw was out

999
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: of bound to the left. Last years, he got pressured.

1000
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: He had to kind of throw the ball away up now,

1001
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: but they were still going to that side. So I'm

1002
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: just yeah, there was a lot of options there, and

1003
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I think we got asked this question and the coaches

1004
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: club the same question. You know, where was the running game? Then?

1005
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Why wasn't there some sort of a you know, a

1006
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: run mixed in there? I can tell you this, We

1007
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: got him on Chris. Thanks, you're welcome. I could tell

1008
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: you this and I don't. And what have you made

1009
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: it or not? I'm from what he did this season.

1010
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: I think you get Aldric Rojas at fifty nine yard

1011
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: field goal, He's got a good chance of making it.

1012
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: You know what. And I actually said that the Bob

1013
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: and crawling their headsets when they got the ball back,

1014
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, guys, I think they only need fifteen

1015
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: yards here, and I would have gone him to the

1016
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: forty and he would have, you know, been okay, and

1017
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: they're like, I would be more comfortable with twenty. I'll

1018
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: tell you what. The way Rosas has kicked at fifty five,

1019
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I feel okay about that. Forty two would have been okay.

1020
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: Forty two is a sixty yard field goal, right, Okay,

1021
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: he can make a sixty yard field goal. I'm telling you,

1022
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: he can make a sixty yard field goal. And hey, listen,

1023
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a guy that can do it

1024
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: with his lake strength, that could have been so maybe,

1025
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, rather than getting twenty yards, you get fifteen

1026
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: and give it a shot. Like I said, I haven't

1027
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: a chance to look at the tape, guys, so I

1028
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: can't comment specifically on the four points and what went

1029
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: wrong on him is I haven't looked at it, um,

1030
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: But look, I think Chris is a fair point. But Patrimos,

1031
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: asked after the game, said he liked the plays that

1032
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: he called. He thought they were good plays. Uh, they

1033
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: just didn't get execute the way if if a team

1034
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: can kick a sixty two yard field goal against you

1035
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: or sixty three to reach you, I think that Aldre

1036
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: Grohas can do that too. I got two nuggets that

1037
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: at for fields. I want to do the callers first,

1038
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: and then we'll do at the end of the show

1039
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: because we start a little bit late. Let's go to

1040
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: drain in Atlanta. He's right next. Hello, dre Hey, long time.

1041
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: Drey always calls on the off season. What it's funny

1042
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: we have to get in season calling group and an

1043
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: off season calling group. Drey is part of the off

1044
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: season call first right away. I like it. Well, I

1045
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: got to you know, I gotta assess everything that's going

1046
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: on to the season, So the off season, I can

1047
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, I have my material. I'm gonna tell you

1048
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm founding early. I'm gonna tell you first of all,

1049
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: before I even gets started, Gonna make it real quick.

1050
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm just tired of you know, fans wanted to stow

1051
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: anybody to back up Eli, and then when they don't perform,

1052
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: they criticized the general manager and the team for this

1053
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: garbage guy dude to play. It makes no sense it's

1054
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: just as line. But the reason I called us the defense.

1055
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: I knew going into the season that our defense wouldn't

1056
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: be top notch because it was pretty much patchwork, you know,

1057
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: especially in our secondary. Remember John, you said our secondary

1058
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: will probably be our most achilles heel because we really

1059
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: didn't we had We had no corner depth and we

1060
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: had no real safety depth. I think this year, going

1061
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: into the draft, we need to look at, you know,

1062
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: drafting someone for free safety. You know, we've we've haven't

1063
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: done it with this regime, and we put an undrafted

1064
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: free agent back there who under greatly underperformed yesterday. So

1065
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: I think we need to put somebody good next to

1066
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Landing Commins. Things ship, right, I agree, one way, shape

1067
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: or form, you need to find the guy that can

1068
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: play that single high safety spot. I agree question you

1069
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: know I would. I wouldn't have been a um if

1070
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: they picked up what they called it from my own

1071
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: the redskins of the waivers, you know, Swearinger, I'm not Look,

1072
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's a good player, but based

1073
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: on his attitude, I'm not sure if that's the type

1074
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: of character and culture that they want to add to

1075
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: this locker room. Especially after they went through what they

1076
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: went through last year, You know what I mean? But

1077
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, a good culture, it's gonna be you know effective.

1078
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, you got him around some character guys you

1079
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: know that can actually you know sometimes or one or

1080
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: one guy can sour the whole room, do you know

1081
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm I'm a firm believer. You can't

1082
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: change the zebra stripes. I really believe that that, you know,

1083
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: it's just happens. But anyways, my last point is, um,

1084
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: if Haskin decides to go back for his final year,

1085
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: which will be asking on consider the fact he is

1086
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the solidified number one correct what passed russer? Do you

1087
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: think we can get at six or offense offensive tackle

1088
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: UM at six or either a little further back that

1089
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: will pretty much you know, handle it well and take

1090
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: us over the edge um in reference to pass russ

1091
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: and actually getting to the quarterbacks that don't have as

1092
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: much time toss the ball or give an Eli or

1093
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: whoever our quarterback is next year more time and creating

1094
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: that foundation so we get um see Kwan more yards

1095
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: and not take that off the year. Thanks for taking

1096
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: a call, Have a good uh holiday too. I appreciate it. Um,

1097
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: I like the guy local guy from Michigan for Shaun Gary.

1098
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: He might he might be there at Sex. I mean,

1099
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: there's a good chance he could be there trying to

1100
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: find uh we're going to I can say the two

1101
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: guys that won't be there, okay, the two guys that

1102
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: are not going to be there or Nick Bosa and

1103
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams from Alabama. Those two guys are gonna be

1104
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: top three picks. They're that good. The only two offensive

1105
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: linemen that would be considered in the top fifteen in

1106
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: this drafter Jonah Williams from Alabama and Greg Little from Ole,

1107
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: miss Uh. Tony Pauline, who was on our pregame show

1108
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: on Sunday, likes Greg Little lot more. He s John

1109
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Williams is a late one. I don't. I've looked at

1110
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: them more closely, but what I've seen, I don't think

1111
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: that's the case. Um. Josh Allen edge rusher from Kentucky,

1112
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Montez Sweat Mississippi State, Jackai Polite from Florida, those are

1113
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: the type of guys. Clellen Farrell from Clemson another really

1114
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: good pass rusher. Those are the type of guys you'll

1115
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: be talking about at six for the Giants. They got

1116
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of mc clemson that front four. Christian Wilkins

1117
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: will be a first formor pick. There's four of them, Yeah,

1118
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: there are four them. Remember a couple of them could

1119
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: have came out last year the Old State because they

1120
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: wanted to try to win a national championship. And lo

1121
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: and behold, they'll get their shot. It's gonna be a

1122
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: good game. That's gonna be a hell of a game

1123
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: because boy, the way those two teams played the other night. Goodness.

1124
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh and I should mention at Oliver two, the defensive

1125
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: tackle from Houston. That's right, another guy that will be

1126
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: in the mix. He has some stuff that happened on

1127
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: the bench though with the coach a little you know,

1128
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: you got to do a little investigation on him. So yeah,

1129
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be smarter than that, you know.

1130
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: And when you're this type of player at this level,

1131
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: at that at that pick, you cost yourself a lot

1132
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: of money by just just hold it back. But some

1133
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: guys can't do that. And he's also a two seventy

1134
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: six pound defensive tackle, which might scare some people off,

1135
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: but those are the same people that were scared off

1136
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: by Aaron Donald and how that work out pretty good? Yeah,

1137
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: and that was a pretty good player, which, as you remember,

1138
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: I told you guys that the Giants yesterday he got

1139
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: the twenty and a half. It's training. He needed three

1140
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: and a half to get to twenty two and a half. Okay,

1141
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: so he obviously he didn't not so yeah, but still

1142
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: he got twenty something. Marco in Connecticut, the line three

1143
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: is up next? Hey Marco? Well what's up? Is? Happy

1144
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: new year? Hey? Um Man? The last two callers just

1145
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: got me so worked up in a good way about

1146
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: um I'm just I'm just you know what I'm tired of.

1147
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm tired of like Eli. It's like Eli and Gettleman

1148
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: are are are just torn in so many different ways,

1149
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: especially online. And I'll be honest with you, especially from

1150
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, John that you guys have had

1151
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: on before to get covered a draft. They they are

1152
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: in full locked and loaded against like against either who

1153
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: they should have drafted last year and Gettleman's track record

1154
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of the Beat Rob be honest with you,

1155
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: there's a big divide with Beat writers to cover the teams,

1156
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: which which drives me absolutely crazy because they push their

1157
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: agendas on Eli and if he should be back and

1158
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: what the team should do. But I don't know. I

1159
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: guess that's their job, but um, I don't. I don't

1160
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times they're telling exactly what's

1161
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: going on. I feel like they're just pushing their point. Um,

1162
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: all right, I'll move on. I think, um, I think

1163
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: whatever whichever way we could put better players around who's

1164
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback is the way we should

1165
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: go with at six. And I so I guess when

1166
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: I say that is I like Eli coming back. But

1167
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: if Haskins proves in the small sample size that he's

1168
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: worthy of that number six pick, then I think you

1169
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: take them. But when we agree with that, we've talked

1170
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: about that, Yeah, Marco, by the way, we agree, Like,

1171
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't draft Dwayne Haskins, but if again,

1172
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how closely they've looked at him, but

1173
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: he's an under classman and he hasn't declared yet. I

1174
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: know I haven't watched him. If I watched Dwayne Haskins

1175
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: and I say, boy, I think this guy is gonna

1176
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: be a pro Bowl level NFL quarterback, you'll hear me.

1177
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Come on, the show and say draft Dwayne Haskins. I

1178
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: just don't have that opinion because I haven't seen enough

1179
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: of them. And what you also see this happens all

1180
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: the time, is we don't know a lot about these

1181
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: guys until they start getting worked out and they go

1182
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: from now there isn't five of them this year, from

1183
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: one to go to one to two and when they

1184
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: bounce around, but a lot of these scouts, this can

1185
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: be a make or break this guy. If he comes

1186
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: out and he does he's you know, pro day and

1187
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: does the combine and he's a guy that then yeah,

1188
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: the Giants, But you don't want to reach for that quarterback.

1189
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: That's what we keep saying. If he's worth the pick,

1190
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: you take him, but you don't pick him just to

1191
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: pick him. And here's the thing. What happens if he

1192
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: completely has it? What if they use the terrible rolls ball?

1193
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: What happens if he's terrible in the rolls ball? I

1194
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. The kid's been fantastic,

1195
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: But what if that happens, and maybe he rethinks he's

1196
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: if he's gonna come out at all, who knows, I

1197
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see I look at it like this, though,

1198
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: If you if you have Eli and then you draft Haskins,

1199
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing for next year then?

1200
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Because I I think if you're if you have Elis

1201
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: You're starting quarterback, then you're picking the number six players

1202
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: to be a premier offensive lineman or premier defensive player

1203
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: because the team needs help on on both of those sides.

1204
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: So if you're Eli Is going to be your quarterback,

1205
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: then I think it's more of a is it more

1206
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: of like a Kurt Warner Eli Manning kind of deal? Marco.

1207
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: That's why you pick the best player, so you don't

1208
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: you don't get into all these machinations. If you think

1209
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: one guy is much better than the other, you pick

1210
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: that guy. And if you think Haskins is your quarterback

1211
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: and you don't think he's ready, and you have to

1212
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: bite the bullet and say, you know what, maybe we're

1213
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: not going to improve the team as much for this

1214
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: individual season, but we're gonna solve our quarterback problem long term.

1215
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: You bite the bullet and you do it. It's not ideal,

1216
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: but you have to. That's the price you pay when

1217
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to find your next franchise quarterback. Whatever. I

1218
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: always say this everybody. If it means finding your franchise quarterback,

1219
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: and there's no guarantees in life, I get it. But

1220
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: if it means finding your franchise quarterback, there really isn't

1221
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: a price too big to pay for that. I'll get

1222
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: off after this. But here's two questions that I hope

1223
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: get answered. They will in this offseason. One is where

1224
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: were Dayne Haskins rank if he was part of the

1225
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: group that came out last year? I actually asked him, Marco.

1226
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: I asked somebody that question the other day. They said

1227
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: they would have him before Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen,

1228
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: but after Donald Mayfield and Rosen. That's pretty good. That's

1229
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: really good. Um okay. And then and then I asked

1230
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: somebody that the other day. I'm happy to answer that.

1231
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: And then my other question is what do what do

1232
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: the scouts think about Daniel Jones from Duke Um. He's

1233
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: a guy that I like. Is he someone that's a

1234
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: second round pick or is he going to get pushed

1235
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: up into the first round because of there's just not

1236
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks coming out this year. I think

1237
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: the ladder of the two Marco, thanks to the call

1238
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and look, I agree, I think that

1239
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: will happen, and I'll tell you and it's it's and

1240
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: it's one. Well, the main reason for me is number one,

1241
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he is a first round draft pick.

1242
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Well again, I haven't seen enough of them, but from

1243
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: when I've read about him, I don't think he is.

1244
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: And I've seen him play in Miami. I've seen him

1245
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: play a lot of games, and but you know he

1246
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: does He's not that kind of guy. He's not that

1247
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: tools he right, He's kind of more of a cerebral,

1248
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: very kind of very just kind of basic money, doesn't

1249
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: doesn't really he doesn't awe you with anything. He reminds

1250
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: me of the way he's been describing and I've been

1251
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: washing them, just been going off descriptions. The way people

1252
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: talk about Andy Dalton is the way we'll talk about

1253
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: this kid from do there you go, ye a little

1254
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: a little smaller frame, you know, but athletic and yeh

1255
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: know he's he's athletic. He's athletic, but I think he

1256
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything like really really good. But he does

1257
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things very well. But the other part

1258
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: about it is that there's too many good players above

1259
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: him that are going to get drafted and taken before him.

1260
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: That's just it. That's why it makes the case for

1261
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: build through the draft in two thousand nineteen, get another

1262
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: year with Eli, and if that has to be right,

1263
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, draft your right tackle and get another stud

1264
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: right guard. If you can't find, get Jamal Brown back

1265
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: or whatever or whatever it is, but you know, and

1266
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: then work on next year, work on the following year

1267
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: when the when the pool is better and you have

1268
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: your choice and you're not reaching correct now again and

1269
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: you might again if you're better, though you might have

1270
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: to trade up to do that, which is a little

1271
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: different like this year. There's a there's a chance that

1272
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: Haskins is there at six, a chance and the Giants

1273
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: at six on draft day will know if they are

1274
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: high on him and they're gonna take him, yes, or

1275
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: someone could also trade up past the Giants to pick

1276
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: them too. That can happen also, which I'm hoping that

1277
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: is the case. Well, right now, here are the teams

1278
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: picking ahead of him real quick? Jeff Arizona. They don't

1279
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. The Niners don't need a quarterback, The

1280
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: Jets don't need a quarterback. The Raiders. Maybe it doesn't

1281
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: look like they need a quarterback. But with John Gruden

1282
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: and Mike Mayock as their GM. Now by the way,

1283
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: so that report, yes, he's going to be named their

1284
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: new general manager according to reports. And then so who knows.

1285
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: If he loves Haskins, they maybell of a sudden him

1286
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: and Gruden say we want to draft our guy. And

1287
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: then there goes Haskins off the board at four. I

1288
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: think that's possible. Then they look to trade Derek Carr

1289
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: for another pick or for another player. Uh. Ten that

1290
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: day at five, they've already announced that Winston will be back,

1291
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: but new coach, things can change, who knows, And the

1292
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: Giants pick a six option though, yes they are going

1293
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: to pick up his fifth year option, which is only

1294
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed for injury, so they could still move on from

1295
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: them if they want people for the league year starts.

1296
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: And then the Giants are six and the Jaguars are seven.

1297
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: That's a team to watch for a trade up. That's

1298
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: the team to watch for a trade up. Um for

1299
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Well, the Broncos at ten are another team. Yeah,

1300
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: we will get another swing, and even even Cincinnati, Yeah, no,

1301
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: that's possible. Too. Who knows where they're gonna go. Now.

1302
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: Miami is another one at thirteen that could want to

1303
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: jump up. They gonna have a new head coach too.

1304
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more call and then I

1305
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: got two little nuggets for you, Jeff Jane Brooklyn, he

1306
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: will wrap us up on the phone. I appreciate somebody

1307
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: does it is It is very hard to watch Nick basketball.

1308
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: But I'm a glutton for punishment, so there you go.

1309
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Suff But otherwise, love fair enough. I appreciate that, Jay.

1310
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: And you know, here's the thing about that really quick. Uh,

1311
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee the kid's going to be a star

1312
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: or even good, but they have him under control long

1313
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: term and better playing him than somebody's not gonna be

1314
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: here next year anyway, Go ahead, anyway, Yes, this is

1315
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: the reason why I talk is the draft a quarterback?

1316
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: When he said this, this is what what we're going

1317
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: through right now with the back and forth, and yeah,

1318
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: I love how people what is the running back now

1319
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: at this pointed in two thousand nine, it's just gonna

1320
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna get a staff their fingers in this position

1321
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: to take a franchise quarterback. You're right, you know, and ye,

1322
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: you're right that that that drove away. Next year ready,

1323
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be I'm gonna come the way I

1324
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: hold campital, I hold the draft capital to get the

1325
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: quarterback and Jay that And if you listen to the

1326
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: show last year, that used to drive me and Jeff

1327
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: nuts what people call ball. You just get him next year,

1328
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: it's it's no problem. Well it's not always that easy, yeah,

1329
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: because guess what we're here now. This next year is

1330
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: here quick good, and there's one guy and we're not

1331
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: even sure he's gonna come out. It's crazy to think

1332
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: that you can only mention one quarterback with confidence and

1333
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: you don't even know if he's gonna come out. We're doomed.

1334
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: There's nobody here. Eli is coming back. That's what it's

1335
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It. It really is amazing. I just really do.

1336
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: Guys pointed out about last a couple of weeks going

1337
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: over the last week with your arm when you basically

1338
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: John you said that Jeff convinced you to bring Manning back,

1339
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: to go forward with Manning, and I agree, but when

1340
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: he looked at it, didn't really have a choice Otherwise,

1341
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you looked at no, Sherman.

1342
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: I think it's it's crazy to see fine left the one.

1343
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: Ye agree, it's not. You gotta get the guy more

1344
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: than one year. However, however, guys not good. I mean

1345
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: he's standing there right now, almost twenty years in the part,

1346
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: he's never been to the playoffs. Every year he's calling,

1347
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: he's lost the whole digit game. I mean, if they

1348
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs next year, nope. Would it be

1349
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: crazy to say Sherman's on the hockey, Yes, because I

1350
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: don't think the Giants are holding his record with the

1351
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns against him. His quarterback was

1352
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Whedon. I mean that was his quarterback, Brandon Weeden.

1353
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: And who's the other one? Uh, there was one of

1354
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: the guy who was also equally as terrible. But I

1355
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: don't that's the thing. I don't think they're gonna hold

1356
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: that against him. I think this is a fresh start.

1357
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: Um two years, a fresh start. What do you think

1358
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: minimum minimum three seasons? Three years? Yes, so he doesn't

1359
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: make the pofs, no chance whatsoever we're gonna go forward.

1360
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if they go one in fifteen and like

1361
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: and it's an epic disaster, then you know whatever. Maybe,

1362
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: but if they win seven or eight games and don't

1363
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, no, not, I think his job is safe. Okay.

1364
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: And then another thing, the last thing you are here.

1365
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: We are the worst seasons to Giant history, and there's

1366
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: a strong possibility they do not come out with age.

1367
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: Think about that. Yeah, but it's not okay, alright, you listen,

1368
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: thank you, j appreciate the Giants could have got one

1369
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: last year. We know that, right, but they chose Sequan, who,

1370
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: by the way, actually turned out pretty good. And so, hey,

1371
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: pretty good do you think? I mean? So going into

1372
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: this season, there isn't there's nobody there. You gotta move.

1373
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 1: You're gonna say, okay, I listen, we're gonna talk about

1374
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: this so much is gonna get nauseating. But my my

1375
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: point isn't it you If you're gonna reach for somebody,

1376
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: it better be better be darned better be. You better

1377
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: be ready to that that guy is gonna be it.

1378
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Jeff, I don't want that to happen.

1379
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's no price too high to pay

1380
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: to get your franchise quarterback if he's but it can

1381
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: destroy your franchise to pick the wrong guy and get

1382
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: him and said it. He said, you're back five years.

1383
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll set you back five years. It really will. So

1384
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: that's what you have to be careful about. You can't

1385
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: say we need a quarterback. We have to take one.

1386
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: And I think frankly Dave get him improved last year.

1387
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: He's never gonna have that mentality because that's discipline. You

1388
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: might disagree with the decision, but that is disciplined to

1389
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: say I'm picking the best player. I'm picking the best player.

1390
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: There's no more tempting cheese unto the mouse trap then

1391
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: a future franchise quarterback. That's cheese. Okay. And the Giants

1392
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: did not take the beat again. You might disagree with it,

1393
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: but they held fast to their philosophy, which is why

1394
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: this year. If they think if if Haskins comes out, okay,

1395
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: and they think he's the best player, they'll take him.

1396
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: If he's not, they won't. Somebody else will, and that's fine.

1397
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: That's where they're at, all right. Two things real quick, Jeff,

1398
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: you only played one game on December thirty one in

1399
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 1: your entire career. Do you remember the game? Thank God?

1400
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: I played two college games on December. Remember the Giant

1401
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: game you played on December with the Raiders. Yes, that

1402
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: was the first game I didn't. We won the NFC

1403
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: East on that game. Six. I'm such an honest guy.

1404
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: I read it. What would you have remember that? Would

1405
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: you remember that? There's question in my mind that I

1406
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: would never ever remember that. That was my second season

1407
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: working the board for Giant games over now, now, two

1408
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: other things real quick, and then we'll say goodbye. We

1409
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: started laying eneld Dave's dying over there. But we have

1410
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: the offseason now. We got plenty of time, right Dave,

1411
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: who cares whatever the world? Um? Remember we're starting a

1412
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: new next week, right, Yes, we're starting back at noon,

1413
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: starting next Monday. Dave Gentleman Live on Wednesday at eleven thirty,

1414
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: and then we'll have BBK one thirty on Wednesday with

1415
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 1: Russ Salisburg and David deal Um. And no show tomorrow

1416
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. Thank you for minding to me

1417
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: of that day, if I appreciate it. And no show

1418
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: this Friday. We're closed this Friday. Really, I'm gonna three

1419
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: day weekend. Seriously, when did that happen? Some better tell

1420
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: the people upstairs, because someone was Sean o Harris supposed

1421
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: to be here to shoot inside the film rooms. Guess

1422
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: that's not happening. Awesome, Well we'll figure that out. Um

1423
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: all right, real quick, Jay mentioned how you convinced me

1424
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: that Eli's the answer next year. This is where I'm

1425
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: at on it, and this will be where I stay

1426
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: on it. They'll do their due diligence. If you find

1427
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: somebody that's better, you always have to try to improve

1428
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: the team. If you find somebody that's the future, you

1429
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: always have to keep that into consideration. But given what's

1430
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: out there, I think finding either someone that's better or

1431
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: the future franchise quarterback for the next ten years, it

1432
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: seems to me at this point that's unlikely. It's also

1433
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: unlikely that you're even going to get that franchise quarterback

1434
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in today's game ten years, even with

1435
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: the people with the quarterbacks certainly not getting it for

1436
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: depending on the quarterback, get a shot at it. You

1437
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: got you got one here. It's I mean, that's I

1438
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: think ten is very realistic. And by the way, in

1439
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: those fifteen years missed one game, well that you're not

1440
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna get. That you're not gonna get And by the way,

1441
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: everyone savior Teddy Bridgewater yesterday in the start with Michael

1442
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: Thomas on the field, by the way, fourteen yards one

1443
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: touchdown against a panthered past defense which has not been

1444
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: very good this year. Yeah, trade for him that, you know,

1445
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was joking with somebody yesterday, They go, hey,

1446
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: do you think so Sean Payne can keep him? He's

1447
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: like sending in bum play calls on purposes, you could

1448
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: get him on the cheep. Obviously the answer was no,

1449
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: But I thought it was funny. That is that's actually

1450
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: really good. That's amazing what people will think about. Right, Um,

1451
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. Do you think you think ten years huh? Yeah,

1452
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: and these guys come out of twenty two now, it's

1453
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: not gonna him playing the thirty two. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

1454
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: Out of those five guys last year, how many do

1455
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: you think of those five guys to play ten years

1456
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: for one team? Now? Three three to five and you

1457
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: would say Allen are probably not one of them. I

1458
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: think it'll be Rosen, Donald and Mayfield. There you go

1459
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: the top three. The other two guys run too much,

1460
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make it. And again not to say

1461
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: you can again I actually thought Lamar Jackson and Allen

1462
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I had them both in the same tier last year.

1463
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: I told you that both his late first round picks,

1464
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: and I think both are showing that. The even said

1465
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: I have to change your whole offense. It's working with

1466
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: the way they're using Lamar Jackson. I just don't think

1467
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL quarterback can last playing that way. But

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson can develop into a good enough

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: pastor where he doesn't have to play that way. I

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: have less confidence Josh Allen's gonna be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, you think that. I think

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Speaker 1: Jackson has a better chance to be a better or

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: more accurate thrower than Alan does. Do you think he'll

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: kind of selling them too that role as like Deshaun

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: Watson a little bit. I think he has to eventually, Yeah,

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01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So eventually once once, that kind

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: of ship sales. The one thing about Jackson, and this

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: is true, but the numbers show it. When he's a

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: past play is called, he doesn't run. He will throw

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: the ball, but they just call a lot of running

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01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: place for him, and that's when he runs there. But

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: when they call a pass. He's not one of these

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: guys that are looking to run on pass places. He

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: will actually look to throw the football. Yeah, like r

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: G three, he would he would be a pass place,

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: but then he would just run correct. Here's the last

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01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: one I'll give you. And I think this has been

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: a kind of a narrative out there that I don't

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: want to dispel. But people are like, oh, you know

1490
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: the Giants, he was so bad in close games. You

1491
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: just flopped the record like in s and everything's gonna

1492
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: be okay. I to the schedule here a real quick Jeff.

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: And the truly close games this year that were really

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: one score games throughout okay, I mean there weren't as

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01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: many as people think. They won three of them, the Niners,

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and the Bears. Those are three very close

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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: games that they want, right um, the close games that

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: they lost, the second Philly game, the Carolina game, the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta game, the last two games of the year. Okay,

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: that's three and five. The Jacksonville game was at one

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01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: score game with about ten minutes to play, so I'll

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: throw that one in there too. So they were three

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01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: and six in my opinion, in close games like the second,

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: like the first Cowboy game. It was they won by

1505
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won by six, but the Giants scored their

1506
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: final touchdown with twenty seconds to play. That's that's not

1507
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: a close game, you know what I mean. So to me,

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: there were three and six in games that I would

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: consider close games this year. Generally you go five hundred

1510
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: in those games. So if the Flips won their four

1511
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: and five to their five and four, so maybe winning

1512
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: a normal amount of close games got them to six

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: or seven wins, but it doesn't turn them into a

1514
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: nine win team, is correct. That's my only point. It'll help,

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: and they have to figure out a win win war,

1516
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: win war. Those close games, you've gotta be around five

1517
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: hundred in those spots. You can't be three and six.

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: You can't be three and seven. However, you want to

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: count a close game a close game, you gotta be

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: closer to five hundred. The whole key to being a

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: good team in this league is by beating teams by

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, and that's what shows you're a

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: good team, which is why point differential is so important. Well,

1524
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: if you have an offense that really the last month

1525
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: of the season can do what they did, then you

1526
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: can get up on some teams by four team, but

1527
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: you've gotta have a defense that's gonna be able to

1528
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: be on the field and hold up that lead for you.

1529
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: And that comes with pass rush. Getting after the quarterback

1530
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: is when you're down two touchdowns is an opponent, your

1531
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: ability to throw the football and make plays without having

1532
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: anybody in your face is huge. Yeah, and I think that,

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: And I like to look at net points. Right the

1534
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: Giants issue are minus forty three, and that's actually probably

1535
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a five and eleven team.

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: For example, UM, the Packers at six, nine and one

1537
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: were minus twenty four. The Lines at six and ten

1538
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: were minus thirty six. UM the Bucks at five and

1539
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: eleven were minus sixty eight. The couple other examples, the

1540
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars at five and eleven were minus seventy one. Give

1541
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: me a winning team that was close to being even.

1542
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: Titans were plus seven. They were nine and seven. Uh, Pittsburgh,

1543
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: See Pittsburgh did not they should have finished with a

1544
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: better record. They were plus sixty eight, just finus nine

1545
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: six and one. The shows they did bad job in

1546
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: close games. A couple other games teams that you think

1547
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: we're close. Dallas was only plus fifteen and went ten

1548
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: and six were plus nineteen. They went nine and seven. Patriots,

1549
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: they always plot those bad teams, and they were plus

1550
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: one eleven. What do you think the Chargers were? Yeah,

1551
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: they're but there. I think they're going to be and

1552
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: the best team in the league with with the Saints.

1553
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: They want won one fifty one. They score a lot

1554
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: of points. Yeah, So I think the Giants and minus

1555
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: forty three, that equates more to a six and ten,

1556
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: seven and nine record than it does a five and

1557
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: eleven record. So I think the Giants realistic were probably

1558
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: more like a six and ten, seven and nine team

1559
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: this year, all things being equal, I think six and

1560
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: ten is a turnover ratio was I'm going to give

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: him I'm gonna give him, Yeah, I'm with you. That's

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: what I'm not going to give him to. So I'm

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01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: not going to give him and eight. I'm with you

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah. Now, I'm gonna give him seven and nine.

1565
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh so you get two wins then they finished five

1566
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: and eleven. But I met one more than you, Okay, Yeah,

1567
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: because you're giving him six, I would give him seven.

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm ok with that, but I'm not going to give

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: him five d um Yeah again. I think if you

1570
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: do better in close games, it swings the It swings

1571
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: your win loss record one to two wins. I think

1572
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: that's how you look at it. Yeah, yeah, that's their yep, yep,

1573
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Happy New Year, Happy New Year to you,

1574
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: Happy new Year to our Big Blue crew. I'm gonna

1575
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: text you a midnight to see if you're up. I

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: will not be up to text tell you that right now.

1577
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be out all right, everybody, guys,

1578
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: we had a great year with you. Guys. We couldn't

1579
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: do the show without you, your loyalty and your calls.

1580
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: Every day. We have a full bank of calls every show.

1581
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much we appreciate it because

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: we love doing this every day. It's my favorite part

1583
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: of coming to work. He gets out of the office.

1584
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It really is. I I

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: get away from Rob Browning, it's the best part of

1586
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: my day. But uh, seriously, you guys, we wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: the show without you. You have a lot of loyal listeners,

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: the podcast Live, the callers, you name it. We really

1589
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: appreciate you giving us the opportunity to do the show

1590
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: and talk Giants Football with you, and you guys always

1591
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: have good insight, really good calls, really good insight questions. Yeah,

1592
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: you listen to talk radio, you get some stupid phone calls.

1593
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: We don't get those here. Yeah, I mean we laugh

1594
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: at you once in a while, but other than that,

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Now. You guys do a great job.

1596
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: And of course the same thanks some other host Russ, Paul,

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Speaker 1: David Deal, even Meadow Mr grumpy Pants, he he he

1598
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: likes you to even even though we won't admit it.

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01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: And to our rate crew Dave Dominic, mac Cohen, Dan

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Speaker 1: Salomon and Brandon Roth, who did a good job of

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Speaker 1: producing the show over the course of the year, have

1602
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: a happy and safe new Year. We are off tomorrow.

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,120
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01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: conference at eleven thirty live on Giants dot Com on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be with you at one thirty. Happy

1606
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Speaker 1: New Year. We'll see you that