WEBVTT - Restoring Self Worth After Trauma and Addiction

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<v Speaker 1>Self worth is determined by a number of different variables.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important one is in your childhood how people

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<v Speaker 1>treated and talk to you. And when I say people,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean most specifically your family, your parents, and the

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<v Speaker 1>people closest to you. Another way that self worth can

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<v Speaker 1>be determined is when you notice yourself overcoming challenges and

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<v Speaker 1>achieving meaningful accomplishments. That second part is really important because

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<v Speaker 1>some of us weren't raised by families that talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us in such a way that leads to really healthy

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<v Speaker 1>self worth. So if there was no other way, then

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<v Speaker 1>that would mean the people who were not raised by

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<v Speaker 1>those sorts of families would just be doomed for life.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can still rebuild your self worth if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that initial boost by simply noticing yourself achieving

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<v Speaker 1>things and overcoming hard things. Welcome back to Family Therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Elliott Connie, and as usual, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you what's been better since you listened to the

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode? Because I want to continue to shift your

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<v Speaker 1>mind towards signs of progress, things in your life you're

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<v Speaker 1>pleased with, and anything else that is positive, because that

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<v Speaker 1>makes life more worthwhile. Today, I want to explore the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between toxic positivity versus a positive mindset shift, and

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<v Speaker 1>explain a little bit about what toxic positivity is. Toxic

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<v Speaker 1>positivity is when people kind of force the belief that

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<v Speaker 1>you should be positive in all situations and suppress negative emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I want to high I want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>really counteres into that last part and like really suppressed

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<v Speaker 1>negative emotions. So there are people that are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>find the positive in everything, but that's very different than

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<v Speaker 1>a positive mindset. A positive mindset is being able to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the parts of the story that are in

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<v Speaker 1>line with what you are trying to achieve, and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to focus on the parts of the story that

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<v Speaker 1>are in line with who you are hoping to become.

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<v Speaker 1>The type of therapy that I do is known as

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<v Speaker 1>solution focused brief therapy, and many people kind of misunderstand

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<v Speaker 1>that approach as a positive approach, but I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>say it's not positive or negative. I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>solution focused approach is change congruent, and a positive mindset

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<v Speaker 1>are those people that can continue to focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>change they're trying to create and things that are in

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<v Speaker 1>line with achieving the things that they're set out to achieve.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a really really important distinction, and clinically,

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<v Speaker 1>my job is to listen to the person's negative emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and difficult experiences, but help shift their thinking towards things

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<v Speaker 1>that are more congruent and more in line with change.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very, very difficult job, but that is in

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<v Speaker 1>fact my job as a psychotherapist. My job is to

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<v Speaker 1>be a change agent, and I know the most efficient

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<v Speaker 1>and consistent way to achieve change is to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the details that lead towards change and focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are congruent to the kinds of change you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to achieve. We do have a tendency to attract

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<v Speaker 1>what is familiar to us. The most consistent way that

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<v Speaker 1>we see this, and there's a lot of research about this,

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<v Speaker 1>is mostly women who have been raised in abuse of

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<v Speaker 1>household tend to attract abusers because we absolutely find and

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<v Speaker 1>settle in what is most comfortable as opposed to what

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<v Speaker 1>is most good for us. And that's not always a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing, not always a good thing. But human beings

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<v Speaker 1>are creatures that seek comfort, not necessarily creatures that seek

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<v Speaker 1>joy or happiness. We seek comfort and the easiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to change this is we have to accept change comes

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<v Speaker 1>with uncomfort. So if I notice a pattern in.

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<v Speaker 2>My life and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter what the pattern is, and I desire to

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<v Speaker 1>change said pattern, I have to accept it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come with uncomfort. It is going to come with difficulty,

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to come with a tension. And to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an example, I worked with a woman many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago clinically, and she was in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>a man for the first time in her life that

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<v Speaker 1>would not hit her. She said, I was my dad

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<v Speaker 1>was an abuser, the boyfriends I had in my early

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<v Speaker 1>life were abusers. My first and second husband were abusers.

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<v Speaker 1>I then met this guy online and he will not

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<v Speaker 1>hit me, which my brain is translating as he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>love me, because everybody that loved me prior to him

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<v Speaker 1>hit me. So that's the tension in her head. I

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<v Speaker 1>logically know that it's good not to be hit, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also struggle with the tension of but everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>my past has done this action, and she had to

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<v Speaker 1>learn to be comfortable in the new environment. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you change it. You have to accept that going

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<v Speaker 1>from what I'm familiar with to a new experience even

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<v Speaker 1>though it is a positive experience, is going to create

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfort and it's going to create create tension, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to stick with it until that becomes the new

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<v Speaker 1>familiar experience. In this episode, we will be focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>Jay and Freddie and the challenges they have ahead. Freddie

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<v Speaker 1>opens up about his past addictions and the fear of

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<v Speaker 1>reconnecting with his nine children, while Jay is learning how

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<v Speaker 1>her childhood has affected her positive outlook on life and

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<v Speaker 1>her self value. So, Jay, what's been better since we

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<v Speaker 1>last talked?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm HMMs been much the same?

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<v Speaker 4>Can't pinpoint anything specifically better, but things are fine?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know? Like what's fine?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't feel down today, like I feel

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<v Speaker 4>even kill.

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<v Speaker 3>It like nothing's particularly bad?

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you know you don't feel particularly down today?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's what's happening? Lets you know, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a day where you don't feel down?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel I just don't feel like super stressed.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like a lot of negative talk in my

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<v Speaker 4>mind right now, I don't know, there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 4>pain points that I can identify instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Of feeling down. How would you describe the way you

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<v Speaker 1>feel today neutral okay, and instead of negative like talk

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<v Speaker 1>what's what what's happening in your today?

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<v Speaker 4>I am just kind of focusing on what things I

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<v Speaker 4>need to do and doing what would.

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<v Speaker 1>You hope to get accomplished most today?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we have good conversations, but I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of feel like after we get off the phone, it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just like, okay, like that was a good conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know that anything is changing, per se.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I can I say something about that? M h,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge you, and I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to respond one honestly, Okay. I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things about you is you seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very focused, determined and positive person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay? Is it okay? If I accuse you

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<v Speaker 1>of those things?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, I'm just waiting for the butt.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, there's no, but I promise there, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you seem to be a nice person, but like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>That, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And also maybe my favorite conversation we've ever had the

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<v Speaker 1>first time we talked, I literally don't think I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you smile. Once you were just very kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>I would refer to in my field is like flat affect.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as I've gotten to know you, you're actually hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember you told me like the mom that

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<v Speaker 1>you run into at the daycare, and like you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>really funny, like you're witty and sharp. The thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder about, yeah, you do. The thing I wonder about

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<v Speaker 1>is when I ask you, so, what's been better? You

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have you seem to have like two, like

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<v Speaker 1>two sides, but I actually want you to have three.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is things are either

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<v Speaker 1>negative or neutral, but there's got to be something on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the neutral. So it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be like negative, neutral, positive, you know. So there I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask you what's been better, and you'll say, well, things

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of neutral. But then you start saying things

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, that sounds super positive to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I find myself thinking, how come she doesn't perceive

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<v Speaker 1>that as positive? Does that make sense? So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? Like, because it's really important that

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<v Speaker 1>we have those three phases to our life. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is I think there are things positive

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<v Speaker 1>happening around you, but you're not catching it and putting

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<v Speaker 1>it in the bucket of positive. And a brilliant man

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<v Speaker 1>once said, a change is only a change if it's noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes me wonder is Jaylen noticing all of

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<v Speaker 1>the positive changes or is she not noticing him just

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<v Speaker 1>and just realizing, oh, this is a day where I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel awful, so I get to just okay instead

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<v Speaker 1>of like, if we notice the good things, we can

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<v Speaker 1>put those in the positive end of the neutral. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it does. I think my challenge is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I do see them as positive, but how I

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<v Speaker 4>feel about them is neutral, which is like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>allowing myself to be excited about these things being positive

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<v Speaker 4>because you're absolutely right. You know, if you have a

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<v Speaker 4>business and everything's going well, Yeah, why would you not.

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<v Speaker 3>Put that in the positive box? Yeah? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a mind shift change.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a an ability to allow myself to get happy

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<v Speaker 4>about those things. I guess sometimes I don't like to

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<v Speaker 4>get too excited about stuff because I expect something to

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<v Speaker 4>happen that's going to need my attention, which also is

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<v Speaker 4>not necessarily a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just I guess I'm just not allowing myself

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<v Speaker 3>to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty like I mean, obviously I have moments where

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like having fun and I'm excited about stuff, But

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<v Speaker 4>I would say my general disposition is not someone who

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<v Speaker 4>is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Super happy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I find myself wondering how could we help Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>make that shift where she is noticing good things and

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<v Speaker 1>allowing herself to enjoy them. Because here's this can I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what I consider the secret of life.

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<v Speaker 3>You ready, I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the secret of life, and I really I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not joking when I say that, I genuinely believe this

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<v Speaker 1>is a secret of life. The secret of life is

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<v Speaker 1>when you realize every single person, every single day, has

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<v Speaker 1>good things and bad things happening. So the secret of

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<v Speaker 1>life isn't to make good things happen because there are

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<v Speaker 1>good things happening all around us all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>the secret of life isn't to make bad things not

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<v Speaker 1>happen because they're bad things happening around us all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The secret of life is living your life, paying more

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<v Speaker 1>attention than the good things than the bad. But some

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<v Speaker 1>of us have had the kind of life where it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to notice the bad because they seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>more frequent. So how do I help Jayen really notice

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<v Speaker 1>and embrace the good things of life? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Let me ask you this, if I took

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<v Speaker 1>you back to a time in your life when you

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<v Speaker 1>were like the happiest, most excited version of yourself, can

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<v Speaker 1>you think back to that time?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the most recent is when I gave birth twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, when you gave birth, that was the most excited

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<v Speaker 1>and happy.

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<v Speaker 2>M h.

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<v Speaker 1>Why what was it about the giving birth process, Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>that made you happy?

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<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, I just don't take it for

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<v Speaker 4>granted that I've had the opportunity to be a mother.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just find that to be a beautiful blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>And it is just a great opportunity to have to

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<v Speaker 4>have two young men, young boys that will become men,

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<v Speaker 4>and I get to mold their life and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>present them to the world as just kind, brave, intelligent

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<v Speaker 4>human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>So I you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Excited, Like, giving birth in itself is extremely painful, at

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<v Speaker 4>least it was for me, but I was excited to

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<v Speaker 4>have that gift.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did you learn to view motherhood of these

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<v Speaker 1>two boys as a gift and something you should not

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<v Speaker 1>take for granted.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I guess because I was an auntie

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<v Speaker 4>for so long. So when I finally realized, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be a mom now, like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>that the acknowledgment just made me so happy. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>did have an abortion, and I did lose a child.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was pregnant. I did have a miscarriage.

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<v Speaker 4>So when my first son was born, I was just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>like this is so cool, Like I really have this

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<v Speaker 4>chance to be a mom, which it wasn't something that

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<v Speaker 4>I necessarily thought was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>In my life.

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<v Speaker 4>So when it happened, I just happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know they're really young, But have you had

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<v Speaker 1>a moment when you were very proud of them? Like

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<v Speaker 1>have one of your children done something that made you

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<v Speaker 1>like really proud of that of that child?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all the time, both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, can you give me an example? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>give me an example?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean my five year old he having you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a baby brother was kind of a transition for him

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<v Speaker 4>and I, you know, and you know, and little and

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<v Speaker 4>little brothers are kind of like you know, my youngest

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<v Speaker 4>will literally walk up to him and smax shit out

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<v Speaker 4>for absolutely no reason, which is, you know, kind of foul.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something that you're gonna have to get used to.

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<v Speaker 4>But he would you know, normally turn around in the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning and just hit him back or push him. And

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<v Speaker 4>now he's learning to, you know, speak assertively to him

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<v Speaker 4>and let him know, like that's not what you do,

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<v Speaker 4>you do this instead, So I'm proud to see him

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<v Speaker 4>do that. He's also my oldest is a little emotional,

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<v Speaker 4>so when he's able to kind of manage his emotions

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit better when he gets upset, I'm proud

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<v Speaker 4>of him. It's like every day, I'm proud of him.

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<v Speaker 4>He does something every day that I'm looking and watching

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm so happy for him. My youngest is talking more.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a little more reserved than my oldest, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>talking more. He really likes to sing, so i'd love

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<v Speaker 4>to watch him sing, you know, the alphabets or little

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<v Speaker 4>songs that he learns the daycare. And he actually really

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<v Speaker 4>is good at carrying the melody. He doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 4>words you know out just yet, but he's definitely got

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<v Speaker 4>the melody down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're awesome. I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, this is going to sound like a loaded question,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have to ask it. Do you allow yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy motherhood?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so? Okay, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like it sounds like you do.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, Yeah, Like it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 4>No, probably one of the hardest jobs I've ever had,

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<v Speaker 4>Like and I've been like literally harder than being in

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<v Speaker 4>the military. But I but you know, the reward is

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<v Speaker 4>way bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you tell them how proud you are of them?

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<v Speaker 1>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell them I'm proud of them. I tell them

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<v Speaker 4>I love them. When I had my oldest, I made

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<v Speaker 4>sure that every single day I would tell him I

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<v Speaker 4>love him, because I didn't grow up in a household

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<v Speaker 4>where we said I love you very often, if at all,

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<v Speaker 4>until maybe later on, But growing up it's not something

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<v Speaker 4>that I heard often. So when he was born, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>every day, I'm going to tell this way I love him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do the same thing with my youngest, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I love them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm proud of them, I'm excited about their lives. They're

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<v Speaker 4>so cool, they're really really dope.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think it does to them? To

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<v Speaker 1>have a mom who thinks being their mom is so

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<v Speaker 1>cool and who thinks my mom thinks I'm really really dope. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think it does to them?

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that it encourages them to be their authentic

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<v Speaker 4>self and allows them to truly just just be. I

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<v Speaker 4>think one of my goals as a mother is I

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<v Speaker 4>want them to be who they are without having the

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<v Speaker 4>stress of worrying about things that children really shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about, as far as like household management and

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<v Speaker 4>finances and all these other things. Like, I just want

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<v Speaker 4>them to be who they are out now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and just live their life to the fullest, so while

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<v Speaker 4>also having the value system that we're instilling in them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I hope it just allows them to be that

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<v Speaker 4>that's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, did you have to try? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine your kids are perfect? No, so, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not being I'm just saying that, Like, no kids

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<v Speaker 1>are perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No kids are perfect. Kids are annoying as hell.

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<v Speaker 4>Like no, yeah, no, they're awesome, but they are annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said something remarkable a minute ago. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I caught it. Right that

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<v Speaker 1>they do something that makes me proud every day? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you say that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so given that they do something that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me proud every day, but you also describe them as

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are really really dope? Do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>work hard to notice good things about them? Like? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do you notice that? Like my youngest

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<v Speaker 1>will just walk up to the older brother just match

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<v Speaker 1>shit out of him, but he's still really really dope?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do you hold both? Like they're annoying as

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<v Speaker 1>hell and they do these really difficult things, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>still really really dope? Like how do you pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the really really dope part?

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<v Speaker 3>I choose the focus on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what would happen if you did that about your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Not just about your kids? You I'd like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to take that phrase. I choose to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>it and like tattoo it on your face, like I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to tattoo it like on your forehead. What

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<v Speaker 1>would happen to Jalen's life if you did the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same thing about yourself? About David, about your laundryn, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, what would happen if you

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<v Speaker 1>did that? More globally? Through. I honestly believe, Jalen, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting goosebumps as I think about this. Your children

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<v Speaker 1>are among the luckiest children in the world. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they're so lucky is because they have a mom

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<v Speaker 1>who made a promise to them when they were born,

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<v Speaker 1>and she kept that promise. Like I knew, I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in a household where I didn't hear I love

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot. So I told myself, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell these two boys I love them every day. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've kept that promise. Your children are incredibly lucky because

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<v Speaker 1>they have a mom who, even though they do stupid stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though they're annoying, my mom keeps you and

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<v Speaker 1>me as if I'm really really dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a gift you're giving to your children, Jalen.

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<v Speaker 1>That I hope you understand how amazing that is, and

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<v Speaker 1>that not every child in this world has that right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you're giving that same gift to Ja.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you're giving that same gift to David.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you're giving that same gift to the

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<v Speaker 1>people you work. You know, so when you say it's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to me because I think I found the joy

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, and it's those two boys. They could

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<v Speaker 1>be as horrible as ever, but you're gonna keep noticing

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<v Speaker 1>what's good about them, right. I have to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen to your life if you just more

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<v Speaker 1>generally applied that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think obviously, like if I focused on

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<v Speaker 4>the good stuff, then the good stuff would multiply. I

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<v Speaker 4>think you know, that's just just how the law of

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<v Speaker 4>attraction works.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Jalen. I think that's absolutely true. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely true. I think that's how a lot of attraction works,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I got some self worth self value issues that I

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<v Speaker 4>just I haven't gotten past yet. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe I don't know. If I just focus on

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<v Speaker 4>the good stuff, those things will eventually work themselves out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>How how long have you had these self worth self

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<v Speaker 1>value issues?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, probably for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it starts small and then it and

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<v Speaker 4>it increases and increases. So you know, I probably started

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<v Speaker 4>when I was young and chugging all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And I think you might have just hit

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<v Speaker 1>on maybe the most important thing is having self worth,

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<v Speaker 1>self value issues. How would you rather feel about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel about myself the way I feel about my sons,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I want to look at myself and be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>she is so fucking awesome. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like, no matter what I do, I'm always

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<v Speaker 4>criticizing myself, Like I'm always like, what can she be?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like you said, not focusing on the good stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>Like instead of focusing on the fact that, okay, well

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<v Speaker 4>you before having a baby, you took care of your

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<v Speaker 4>body pretty damn good. Also, you know, I'm a smoker.

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<v Speaker 4>I do smoke when I'm pregnant and breastfeeding. I stopped

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as I finished breastfeeding, I went back to smoking.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead of focusing on the fact that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm smoking now, like I should probably focus on the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that I have quit multiple tis so, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't do that. I just smoke, and then I judge

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<v Speaker 4>myself every single time I do it. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just stuff like that, Like I don't. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't when it comes to me, It's just really hard

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<v Speaker 4>for me to consistently and continually be pleased with myself,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess part of it is right now. I

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<v Speaker 4>just think it's because I've been through so many changes

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<v Speaker 4>in the last few years, like getting out the military,

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<v Speaker 4>then being in a job that I don't particularly enjoy,

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<v Speaker 4>pays the bills but don't really like it, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, being in a relationship for so long and

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<v Speaker 4>feeling like that person doesn't value me, and then gaining

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<v Speaker 4>weight after having kids. So it's like all of these

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<v Speaker 4>things have happened like within a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 4>and not working out when I used to, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>literally worked out when I was pregnant with my youngest

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<v Speaker 4>till like week thirty one. And I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 4>like going for walks, like literally in the gym, punching

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<v Speaker 4>heavy bags, like kicking, like doing all of these things,

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<v Speaker 4>and then as soon as I have my kid, like

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<v Speaker 4>not being able to figure out how to adjust to.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, okay, so were you doing it for

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<v Speaker 4>yourself or were you just doing it because you were

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<v Speaker 4>pregnant and you wanted to take care of your body

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<v Speaker 4>so that he could be good? But it's like, how

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<v Speaker 4>do you do that for you? You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>Like how do you like, Okay, when you're in the military,

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<v Speaker 4>you worked out all the time, but it was a requirement.

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<v Speaker 4>So now it's like, how do you just do it

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<v Speaker 4>for yourself? Like, I don't know why there's such an

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<v Speaker 4>issue with that with me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. I don't. It's annoying though, cause

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I know so many things, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not doing it, you know, like the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing like, oh, you know better, you do better, like

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<v Speaker 3>that should have done true, a lot of people know better,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't do better.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't like you know, how do you make that

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<v Speaker 4>that transition to say, this is my life, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to take care of myself just for the sac of

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<v Speaker 4>the sake of it being for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>That's if I answered that, how helpful would that be

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Because I think I know the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, I'm interested in knowing with your responsiblit.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, in order to answer that, I have to talk

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to you about your sons. Okay, you're doing something with

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>your sons that is very, very important, and you're doing

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it because you didn't have it when you were growing up.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You said you didn't grow up in a household where

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you were being told I love you a whole lot. Correct, correct,

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>So you're what you're doing is you're telling your sons

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I love you every day. Now, what that does is

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>there are days that your sons think they're the greatest

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>things since sliced bread, and when you say I love you,

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be like, of course you do, because

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm awesome and you're supposed to love me because I'm

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the greatest. But then there are also days when your

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>sons don't feel great, like maybe they had a tough

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>day at school, or maybe they got in trouble at home.

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>And on those days, you say I love you too,

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and that makes them feel worthy because even when I'm

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not at my best, my mother loves me. Does that

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>make sense.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>What you're doing to yourself, and I think it comes

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>from the environment you were raised in, is you're making

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>your love conditional upon your performance. So I must be

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>worthy if I woke up and I worked out, and

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I did good things, and I was productive and I

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was awesome and all those things. When you consistently tell

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>your children that you love them, they just feel worthy.

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't think their love is conditional upon performance. So

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I want you to treat Jaylen as if her love

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>for self is not conditional upon performance. I want you

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to do exactly for yourself what you do for your children,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>which is, every single day, notice the good things about yourself,

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and it has nothing to do with what you did

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that day. It has to do with who you are

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>as a human. You do this magically well with your children,

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but not as well with yourself, which makes sense because

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get taught this at an early age. Yeah,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, you're an amazing person, and

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter whether you worked out this morning. It

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter whether you smoked a cigarette today. It doesn't

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>matter whether you did great things at work today. That's

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>those things are not relevant in the same way that

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>your children. And I love this phrase. My youngest son

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>will smack this shit out of his brother, but he

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>is still really really dope. That is exactly how I

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>want you to look at Jaylen. She may have smoked today,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>but she's still really really dope. She may not have

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>worked out today, but she is still really really dope.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>When you can treat and talk to and think about

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>yourself in that way, all the other things will click

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>into place.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, as they say, fake it.

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So you make it. But I would say notice it

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>until it's real, because it's there. It's not even faking

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it because that would imply you're not dope. So just

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>pretend you're to until you become dope. That is like, no,

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you are, you're just not attending to it.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I just don't believe that though.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, then let's can we discover it together, because I'm

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>telling you, Jay, the reason you don't believe it isn't

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's not there. The reason you don't believe it

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>is because your parents didn't teach you to pay attention

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to it. And what makes that so remarkable is in

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>spite of that fact, you're still doing it with your

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>two kids. Let's start here because I don't believe in

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>giving people compliments unless I can support the compliment with evidence.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>So let me give you an example of what I

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>mean when I say, Jay Lennon is an amazing person.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you understand how hard it is not to recreate

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a pattern in your children? So what we all do

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>as human beings, like literally almost all of us, we

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>do what we were trained to do, even if it

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>causes harm we do what we were trained to do.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You're doing the exact opposite. You were trained not to

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>view yourself in this loving way, and you have decided

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to break that pattern, and you are viewing your children

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in this loving way. So when you sit back and

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you think, but I don't think it's I don't view

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>myself that way. That's where I want you to start,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>because it is incredibly special that you have broken a

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>family pattern and your children are gonna benefit for the

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>rest of their life with that fact, I want you

0:32:53.960 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to practice viewing yourself through the lens of you are

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>really awesome? Can you do that? I want you to

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>view yourself through the lens of how awesome you are. Now,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not perfect, So every single day there will be

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>things that like, oh, I wish I fixed that flower,

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I wish I wish I didn't make those kind of mistakes.

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>But I also want you to pay attention to the

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>things that make you, as you said, really really dope. Okay,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to give you an exercise to do

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to help you do that. Okay, can you hear me?

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>You said about your children, they do something every single

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>day to make me proud. Every single day, I want

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you to think of one thing you do that makes

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you proud of yourself. Like when somebody comes in and

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they say, this laundry mat is doing better, and I

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>want you to think what role do I play in that?

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Or when your employee brings you lunch, I want you

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to say, what have I done to make them care

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for me in such a way? Like I want you

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to always be thinking about what have you done that

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>makes you proud of yourself? My goal is we got

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to put something on the other side of the neutral.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Can't just have negative and neutral. I've got to have negative,

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>neutral and positive and quite frankly, and you deserve it.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha that next time we meet, I'm going to start

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 3>off with something so positive I love it.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Just wait all right. That means you have to be

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>It absolutely and I gotta allow myself.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>To yam, it's gonna happen.

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Your self worth is significantly impacted by your childhood, be

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>it positive or negative, and those of us who have

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>had trauma in our childhood and abuse and neglect and

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>abandonment usually have massive self worth issues. But there's good

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>news is you can restore that by simply shifting your

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>mindset and focusing on how you got through those experiences

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and not folks on that those experiences happened. I think

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>this goes back to the toxic positivity thing. I am

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>someone who has experienced massive childhood trauma. My father was

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>quite abusive, and I really just have two choices. I

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>can continue to ruminate, which I did for years, on

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>why my father did this and that had happened and

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>why me and all of those things, which lead to

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a low self belief and low self worth. Or I

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>can start asking myself how I survived it and achieved things.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>How did I survive that childhood and graduate from high

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>school and college and get a master's degree and you know,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>get married, on all of the things. And when you

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about how you overcame challenges on your path,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the inherent consequence of that is an increase in self worth.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>And the beautiful thing is that's the kind of self

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>worth that no one can take from you. When we return,

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we will learn more about Freddie's challenges to reconnect with

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the children and the power in expressing love. If you

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>are out there struggling with addiction, it is very likely

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>you made real mistakes in the relationships in your life.

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>You ruptured relationships with your romantic partner, you ruptured relationship

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>with your children, you ruptured relationship with your parents. I hope,

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, as you listen to Freddie and his story,

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope you pay attention to two very important things.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>The first one is Freddie is one of those people.

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>He made mistakes in his relationships, most notably and highlighted

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>here in this process with his children. But I hope

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>what you notice is a man who continues to show

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>up to therapy, and he continues to talk about reconnecting

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>with his children, at times imperfectly, at times with fear, hesitation,

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and anxieties, but he keeps showing up. And I hope

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you see that healing and love are unbelievably powerful things. So,

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>no matter what mistakes you made while you were in

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the throes of addiction, on the other side of it

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>is the opportunity for healing through the power of love.

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And more than anything, I think that's what this family represents,

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and more than anything, I think that's what Freddie stands for.

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>So as you listen to these stories, pay attention to

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Freddie because he's demonstrating something that quite honestly a lot

0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of people don't get to see. And I think it's priceless.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>M And you mentioned that your wife will say to you,

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, you should call your kids, but you said

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not very good at that.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not, I'm not. I don't. Uh.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I talked to my other daughter that she lives in Virginia. Uh,

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>two days ago. Uh I called. I got another daughter

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>name the name. I haven't talked to her about a month.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I talked to my other son, uh. They I talked

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to him about a week ago.

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>My son in my lost and I haven't talked to

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>him about two weeks. Uh. Then I got like, uh

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 2>two step kids or three, and she said, I communicate

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>with them more than I communicate with my my biological

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>kids though although I raised I raised them for like

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty years. You know, when they were there with kids,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I raised him, playing with younger childres that got two adults,

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So it's not that I don't.

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I favorite either one or not. But

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I got like, I got like nine kids by three

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>different women. So uh, I think I know for a

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>fact that it's here. Was upset with that because I

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>broke up with his mother and moved to Florida for

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>like ten years, you know what I mean. I started

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>a whole new family that went astray, and I moved

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>from Florida, moved somewhere else and started another family, you

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So it seemed like I don't

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>know if I fall. I know, I'm settled well at

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>right now, my heart, you know what I mean. And

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of it's kind of crazy because I obey

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>this song. I think, uh uh, you're probably familiar with

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 2>this song. Uh uh uh guy. Verses of a natural high.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm on cloud nine, natural high, and I never really

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 2>uh knew what a natural high felt like, you know

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, as far as like like when I

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>make love to my wife, now I be, I be,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I be floating on cloud nine and she'd be bothering.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 2>That's I tell I never realized how it feel to

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>have a natural high. You know what I'm saying, That

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 2>a woman can make you feel like you're on cloud nine,

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>just float, you know what I mean.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of questions, but my first one

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is what what what do you think is interfering with

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>your ability to contact your kids, Like, do you feel

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>bad about starting another family? Is their guilt? Are you?

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>What's the what do you think is the biggest barrier

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that you experience?

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Sometimes you you you you uh. I

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>think for myself, I think sometimes when you get so

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 2>settle in in in a way you know, you say

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do it tomorrow tomorrow, I'll be like always

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>ill do it tomorrow and tomorrow never comes. And I

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>think that's one of my worst dilemmas in my life

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>because when I say I'm gonna do it tomorrow, tomorrow

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 2>never comes. Or if I don't do it right, then

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it won't happen. As far as like I don't. I

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>don't think, uh that I feel guilty for having uh

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>kids by all these different women, because I love my

0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 2>kids and like at the time, like you know, I was,

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I was in love and I fell out loved and

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I fell in love again. Like it's a totally difference

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>film with her than I ever had with anybody else.

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I said to her, I said, I

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think I really was in love or it's this

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 2>unless it's different levels of love you know what I mean,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 2>She said, I don't always have to do the big things,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and like to make her happy, I gotta just do

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 2>more little things every day to make her happy. And

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>she I'll be thinking, like I gotta do something gigantic

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>or something far FETs you know what I'm saying to

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>express my love. You know, you could just do a

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 2>little thing, you know what I mean. So I was like, Okay, yeah,

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't work too, I could also I could do that.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So I want to go back to the kids. What

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>little things can you do for the nine kids to

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>show them that you love them? Like you you do

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>these little things and you show your wife that you

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>love her. I wonder what little things you could do

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to show the kids that you love them, that they're

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>important to you as well.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because, like, I didn't see what he's

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>up in about two weeks. So when I went up

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 2>up north and I saw him, he was he had

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a pouty face on, you know what I mean, Uh like,

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 2>come here, come in, and he looked at me and

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 2>start it was pouty, you know what I mean, and

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 2>took and it took like maybe ten fifteen minutes for

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>him to come around and start jumping on me and

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>playing with me again. So everybody was like, wow, he

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>really missed you, We really miss you, and I could

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 2>like it was so uh.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>It was so.

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh visible, and everybody noticed him, Like wow. I said, Man, see,

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I gotta start That's what made me really wanted him

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 2>to come stay with me again, because I don't want

0:43:54.920 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 2>him to uh feel that way anymore. Like you know,

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 2>because like I was when I was living up there,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I was I was coming to her house almost every

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 2>other day, So I was I was feeling kind of

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>guilty about that because, uh, kids there just let you

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 2>know right off the bat how they're feeling, you know

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. You know, I call talk to you

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>on the phone, but you know that ain't that's somewhat helpful.

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 2>But you gotta be like the President's gotta be right.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>There was that kid you were talking about, Yes, how

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>can you help show your kids, like you just sending

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and Jade and the others that you that you miss

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>them and you love them and you care about them

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and you want to be in their lives.

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, I gotta be more attentive to them. I gotta

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>start doing things with them, start calling them each and

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>every day or each every other day. Uh, trying to

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>spend quality time with them, you know what I mean,

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>doing uh, you know, doing things with them, man, you

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, like uh or even in something

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>even buying it like I miss you card and send

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>them a card or something like that, just saying I

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 2>miss you, I love you and stuff love that nature.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you miss them?

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I do, I really do.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you care about them?

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I love my kids? Yeah too, And I ain't where

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to do for them? Man? Absolutely?

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you think they know that? Now I'm not I'm

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>not saying you're wrong, but like, do they know that

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing in the world you wouldn't do for them?

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 2>One question? They realized that, Like my wife always says,

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>she says, sometimes you always try to do the do

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>something that's so big you all you gotta do is

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 2>do the little things every day. He should waiting to

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 2>try to do something that's gonna be real big, you

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because sometimes the big thing never happened.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 2>But you keep doing the little things and to the

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>little things work up to the big things, you know

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So now that you know I am

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>a little more situated and things are starting to come on,

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.919
<v Speaker 2>you know together financially, I can. I could do things,

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, for our cinemas and flowers or cinemas or

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I missed your card, I love your card

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, would they be surprised to get that and

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I miss your card and I love your card from you?

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think so, because I think uh when

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I sent uh, I think it was the year before last.

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I sent all the all the mother's mother Day's cards,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and they was there was there was you know, I

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>could see that espressally on their face that when they

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>got the car and and they all called me. You

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Because that Uh, it's something that

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't I don't do, and it needs

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to be done on a frequent basis, you know what

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean. It's not something I should just be done,

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 2>uh on every other year. It's be done, you know,

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>on on a steady basis.

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. Freddie. If if I had all

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>nine of your kids in a room and I interviewed

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>them and I asked them, what do you think of

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>your father? What do you think they would say?

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they would be Uh, happy that that

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 2>where my life is now, where I'm at right now,

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>as far as you know, compared to my life, Uh,

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe five years ago.

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 1>It was different about your life five years ago.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 2>About five or ten years old. I was I was

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 2>in the streets, you know what I mean?

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I was in the streets.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Doing drinking, high, just running the streets.

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I had no no, my life had had no direction

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>as far just all I want to do is be

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>in the streets, hustle and make money and just run

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>the streets, you know what I mean. So uh, and

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I think now that you know, I don't I don't

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>indulge in any of all those things. Right now. My

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>life is three I've been clean for five years going

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>on six.

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>From what drug? You got clean from?

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Everything?

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>And then you will say what do you call? God

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 2>says it didn't matter if you had it, I want

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>some of it, you know what I mean? Uh, it

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter. So I'm so proud of my life by

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 2>right now because I thought I would die in those streets.

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A lot of people do every day.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 2>And I thank God for deliverance.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>You just don't know how much I thank God for deliver.

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Did it happen? How did you get clean?

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>How did it happen?

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>What was the turning point? How did you? How did

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you get clean? From all that?

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think when you get tied and you

0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>you you you uh lose everything and you don't got

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the shirt on your back no more, and people just

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>give up hope on you, you know what I mean,

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and you find yourself like a rock body, you know

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so many times that I look back at it

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 2>and I say, ah, if I only did this before,

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, if I only got clean before,

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 2>my life would be so much better, you know what

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean. But I can't look at it like that.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm clean now, and I'm grateful for that. And and

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I think because like for like I would say, ten

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years, my life was like that, you know, when

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I was in them streets, you know, and like I said,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>it destroys so many things in my life, you know,

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 2>destroy relationship with my kids, destroyed relationship. I lost a

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of money, I lost a lot of materialist things.

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I lost respectful you know from people, you know what

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, and I just thank God for

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 2>deliverance now, man, like, wow, why why you know what

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 2>happened when it happened, And I'm grateful for it, you

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I can't go back and say

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could have done it earlier in my life.

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just happy now I've done it now, you know

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So I could just build off now

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>my life the way it is now. I could just

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 2>build off the way it is now, you know. I think, Uh,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 2>all my all my kids, they like they they're old

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>enough to know the type of life I have, you

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, And so they see that I

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>don't turn I turned my life in the three sixty,

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Uhh, Like I said, I

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>don't indulge anything. I have a beer on it. I

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>don't even really remember the last time how to be here,

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I matter? Or the football game. I

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 2>had to be at a football game. But other than that,

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't indulge myself with people that use drugs,

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I don't like my turn

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>my back on them or nothing like that, but I

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 2>don't be around them. I don't indulge with them, and

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I can't it's not that, you know, I

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>hate them for because they do what they do. That's

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>their business, you know what I mean. But I don't

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>want no parts of it, you know what I mean

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 2>at all?

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And you you mentioned something, you said when you're on

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>them streets, you lost money, people respect for you, and

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you said it hurts your relationship with your kids, and

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.719
<v Speaker 1>then you turned your life around, like three sixty. What

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.439
<v Speaker 1>have you done to repair the relationship with the kids

0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>from all you know, ten fifteen years out on the streets.

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been making attempts. I would say they're kind

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 2>of fertile attempts, you know what I mean. I could

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 2>be doing a substantial amount of more things to uh

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 2>repay my relationship with my kids. But I think as

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>far as me uh being in their life each and

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 2>every day or each and every uh like that, h

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 2>it's lacking. It's lacking greatly, you know what I mean.

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Because which I like, I like, Like I said, I make,

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I make futile attempts on trying to uh maintain that,

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Sometimes you get caught up

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>in your own, your own world, and one day slipping

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 2>to two days and two days of slipping to two

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks before you know, it'd be a whole month and

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, missed out again, you know what I mean?

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>And I feel so guilty about myself as far as

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 2>not being able to uh maintain a relationship with my

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 2>kids or keep staying involved with them.

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you you have some work to do to

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>repair those relationships.

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I know I do.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>How do you overcome that fear so that you can

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 1>do the things you need to do to two heal

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the relationship with the kids.

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I gotta be more persistent, you know,

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be more uh hum, I got I gotta

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>maintain uh h uh uh a relationship with them. Like

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>one week I call them, two weeks I'll call them.

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Three weeks to go by, and I don't call them.

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't maintain. I don't once I see I established

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 2>something with them and we have a good relationship going,

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.879
<v Speaker 2>and then for some reason, I just fall back into

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>my my cycle. Gain I get to relax. Now. I

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.320
<v Speaker 2>don't show no initiative. I don't call them them allut

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I don't send them no flowers.

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't send no no, you know, I don't. I

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 2>don't do anything, you know what I mean?

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 3>And and.

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Then when I I I think, when I try to

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 2>communicate with them again, they don't. They hold back a

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.320
<v Speaker 2>little bit because I think every time I get into it,

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I come into their life, I go out their life.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I come into their life, I go out their life,

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. That's why my and I

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.240
<v Speaker 2>blame myself with that because I don't I don't be persistent.

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't stay you know, I don't stay on it.

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. I don't stay on.

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>How's it going to help you? How's it going to

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>help you to stay on it?

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>What what difference is it going to make in your

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>life when you're able to stay on it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know. Because if I knew that answer

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<v Speaker 2>to that, I would be more persistent. I would be

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<v Speaker 2>more involved in their life each and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we figure this out together, Freddy?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to try to figure it out, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I just asked you, like, how was going to

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<v Speaker 1>help you when you get persistent? You were like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know yet. Well, let's figure that out. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you to do a really really hard thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You sure can.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to call each of the nine children

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<v Speaker 1>and let them know that you love them, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in their lives, and you apologize for any

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<v Speaker 1>hurt being in those streets might have caused them. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you say that to each of the nine kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, I want to be in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I apologize for any hurtful thing that happened while

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<v Speaker 1>I was in those streets for ten or fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Yeah, I've made attempts to do that before, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'll be in the life for a

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<v Speaker 2>period of time. Yeah, I don't be persistent.

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<v Speaker 1>With right now. I don't want you. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want you worrying about being consistent. I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>to do that one thing. We'll build consistency after that,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now, I just want you to do the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even matter if you're consistent right now. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna start with the one step, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that one step with each of the nine kids,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll take another step.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>And nine's a lot, but you gotta do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to know the father that they actually have,

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<v Speaker 1>that actually loves and cares for them. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>to take accountability for what happened, so you can heal

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship right, And then what you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>going to figure out is now, once you start that

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<v Speaker 1>healing journey, what difference is it gonna make for Freddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call them, all of them, talk to each.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of each session, I tend to invite

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<v Speaker 1>clients to do something, or to notice something, or to

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to something, and it's really important that they

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<v Speaker 1>receive that, But it's not necessarily important that they do it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't matter to me whether the client comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the session and they've done the task, or

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<v Speaker 1>they've done something else, or they didn't do it. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they were asked to do it puts change

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<v Speaker 1>in their mind. And when you notice change, you are

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<v Speaker 1>already progressing. So the very reason that I will often

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<v Speaker 1>invite clients to do something is simply to keep change

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<v Speaker 1>on their mind, whether they do it, don't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or do something else when they come back to therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're going to start the exploration. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>very important that people constantly have change and the details

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<v Speaker 1>of change in their purview, in their perception stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for my final thoughts after this. So people often say

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<v Speaker 1>that time heals all wounds, and I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>is true. If it's simply the passage of time that

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<v Speaker 1>were to create healing, then things like resentment and festering

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<v Speaker 1>and estrangement wouldn't exist. I'll tell you what time does do.

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<v Speaker 1>Time provides opportunity for healing and growth. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be an active participant in your healing. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be an active participant in your growth. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to accept it's going to be hard, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be challenging, it's going to be uncomfortable. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>put you in situations that sometimes you'd rather not be in.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's worthwhile and it's meaningful. And there is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in this world like the heal that can take place

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<v Speaker 1>after something negative has happened within a relationship in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the relationship is meaningful enough, time provides opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for healing and growth. More than anything. This family represents

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<v Speaker 1>three people that we're getting to listen to, but even

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<v Speaker 1>a larger extent of all of the people in the system,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jay and David's children whom we don't meet on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, and bread each other children whom we don't

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<v Speaker 1>meet in the podcast. This family represents taking the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to participate in healing and growth even when it is

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<v Speaker 1>hard and uncomfortable. That's what this process is about. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody to take away from this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>this season at large. Time in and of itself is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough. Time does not heal all wounds. Active participation

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<v Speaker 1>in your healing and growth heals all ways. This is

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<v Speaker 1>and be entertained by. I actually want you to be inspired.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be impacted by this and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would like for you to do is

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<v Speaker 1>come on this healing journey with us. Come on this

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<v Speaker 1>journey of change rediscovery with us. And the way to

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<v Speaker 1>do that is to just pay attention to the things

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