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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory File Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Saada Charma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: are going to be facing the San Diego Padres next week.

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Speaker 1: We still don't know where it's it's it's hopefully that's

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Speaker 1: figured out by tonight so we don't have to keep

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Speaker 1: booking hotels or figure out flights whatever. Uh, But right

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Speaker 1: now they know that they know who their opponent is.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how you want to describe

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Speaker 1: how they're playing coming into the postseason, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the offense has looked better that they have.

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Speaker 3: They've had a good week.

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Speaker 1: Uh, the wins aren't piling up, but you know, the

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Speaker 1: Padres are a team littered with talent, but also they

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Speaker 1: have so many flaws as well a decent amount of injuries.

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Speaker 1: I would not I would not put the Cubs as

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Speaker 1: like some sort of huge favorite here, but I think

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Speaker 1: I'd give a little bit of an edge to them

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Speaker 1: early on. We have questions as to what the team

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Speaker 1: will look like. We'll get to that in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Padres. I think coming into the season that

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Speaker 1: that was a scary matchup.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't. I don't think anybody's scary anymore.

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Speaker 4: No, I think the Padres are like most of the

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Speaker 4: rest of the National League, not all that dissimilar from

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Speaker 4: the Cubs of kind of banged up, kind of hoping

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Speaker 4: something clicks in October that flip switches. Because you're right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have high end talent. It's just a

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Speaker 4: matter of his Fernando Tatis Junior going to come up

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Speaker 4: huge in those moments. Jackson Merrill has not had the

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Speaker 4: same season he did last year, you know, in part

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Speaker 4: because of injuries. The padres best starting pitcher at the

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Speaker 4: moment is probably Nick Pivetta, which is not necessarily well

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Speaker 4: not probably like certainly their best pitcher. And that's you know,

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Speaker 4: because you know, Michael King, you Darvish have each basically

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Speaker 4: had like a half season. Dylan Ceze has made thirty

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Speaker 4: two starts, but his e er A is four point

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Speaker 4: five to five. So obviously those aforementioned pitchers are very talented,

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Speaker 4: but they have not had the wire to wire seasons

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Speaker 4: you would have expected. They're probably their best trade deadline

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Speaker 4: edition or a very impactful Trade headline edition. H just

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Speaker 4: went down in just so I get it. Pronounce his

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Speaker 4: name right fromote Ramon and Loriano has been one of

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Speaker 4: their their best hitters, but he's kind of already ruled

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Speaker 4: out for that first round series against the Cubs, And

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Speaker 4: so as you kind of run down the list, like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are some big names there. They have a lot

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Speaker 4: of playoff experience recently. I sorry, Jason Adam is another

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Speaker 4: like big part of their bullpen that has removed from

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Speaker 4: the equation. So like when you're kind of running down

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Speaker 4: this list, and I'm sure I'll think of like another

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Speaker 4: wait a second, Like they're not exactly peaking at the

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Speaker 4: right time either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole like how you're doing coming into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit you know, overplayed. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I think it help matters absolutely, how like how are

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Speaker 3: But how are you doing overall? It Like it.

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Speaker 1: Just doesn't seem to like the data doesn't support that

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Speaker 1: everything that I've everything that I've read about, or all

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Speaker 3: It's just like, go look at.

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Speaker 1: The last month of playoff teams and it doesn't really

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Speaker 3: Uh? And and is he dominating?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well then maybe you're you're going to uh run

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Speaker 1: It Also, you know, there's there's something to be said

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Speaker 1: about the postseason, and Council said this yesterday the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked them about, you know, is it a time

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Speaker 1: for the stars to shine? And like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: the Padres have those like that, they have Manny Machado,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but but it also it's like it's also a

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Speaker 3: Hobby Baias wasn't a.

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Speaker 1: Household name in twenty sixteen, like Cubs fans knew who

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Speaker 1: Arena had that monster postseason. I think that was twenty

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Speaker 3: Get known October. You show up in the biggest moments.

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Speaker 3: Who knows who that could be.

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Speaker 4: I do think it's interesting. You know, you wrote about

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Speaker 4: this on the Athletic in terms of moist by a

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Speaker 4: up in the playoffs, and Council I'd ask him this.

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Speaker 4: I believe it was in Pittsburgh maybe, but it had

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Speaker 4: been kind of an ongoing conversation here as the Cubs

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Speaker 4: playoff probabilities were hovering around ninety nine percent. This idea

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Speaker 4: of you know, Air quotes a big game player, and

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Speaker 4: Council does not dismiss that idea. Like he's like, there

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Speaker 4: are certain players that maybe you wouldn't want to bet

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Speaker 4: on over the course of one hundred and sixty two games,

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Speaker 4: but there are certain players who love those moments, who

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Speaker 4: seem to thrive in those moments, that step up in

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Speaker 4: the big situations, and then I think that's just sort

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Speaker 4: of the human element of the game that Council acknowledge exists.

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Speaker 4: And because of that, I even look at Counsel's own career,

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Speaker 4: right like, this is someone who won a couple World

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Speaker 4: was a trade deadline addition for the Marlins when at

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Speaker 4: the time I believe he was playing in Triple A. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you know he's he's scoring that run and

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Speaker 4: those moments do happen. Those players do emerge, and it'll

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Speaker 4: be fun to watch to see who does. And also

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Speaker 4: you know who just has to wear it when they

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Speaker 4: don't call up in that moment and they're talked about

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Speaker 4: for years later as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's uh, let's talk about moises by a stairs

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Speaker 1: our draft and put him under our draft games player spotlight.

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick moises by a stereos, I asked Counsel,

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Speaker 1: is he kind of hitting his way into the playoff roster?

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Speaker 1: A Council is, yeah, he's like, look at where we're

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker down. Kyle Tucker, you know, is a team

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Speaker 1: playing perfectly right now. No, but Kyle Tucker has been

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Speaker 1: out and the offense has looked really good. The offense

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Speaker 1: There was that awful Monday in Atlanta. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: But outside of that, they've they've really been putting pressure

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Speaker 1: on pitchers and Moyes Baysteros is one of the big

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Speaker 1: up with big hits. He's a contact guy, so he's

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Speaker 1: always putting the ball in play. Uh. And and that

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Speaker 1: you know that that's he's like Nico Horner with with

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Speaker 1: Like you know, he's it's been impressive in the sense

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Speaker 3: You know, he was.

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Speaker 1: Rolling over on the ball didn't look very good, looked

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Speaker 1: now it seems like every other day, every other game,

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Speaker 4: Same. I have a hard time envisioning him being left off,

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Speaker 4: and it kind of reminds me of I guess was

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Speaker 4: maybe last year when Cody Bellinger was out and everyone

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Speaker 4: as Bellinger was, maybe even better in that particular moment. Now,

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Speaker 4: obviously Cody Bellinger has the ceiling, he has a longer

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Speaker 4: track record, you know, a better career. But there are

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Speaker 4: players for stretches that can outperform expectations, that can produce

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Speaker 4: at a star level, and Biasteros is not there yet.

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Speaker 4: I still think Kyle Tucker's you know, entire package of

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Speaker 4: after an underwhelming trade deadline when everyone was wondering, you know,

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Speaker 4: where's where's the big move, where's the good get for

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Speaker 4: a frontline starting pitcher. The Cubs also basically just said no,

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Speaker 4: thanks to the best relievers out there, like that prospect

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Speaker 4: price was too much. And we don't know exactly where

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Speaker 4: kind of understand why the Cubs were extremely reluctant, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and you know, we'll we'll talk about this

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Speaker 1: more in the off season. But performance like this helps,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, okay, what do they do in the

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Speaker 1: Like you want to play him every days next year? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's kind of how it feels. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: what does the roster look like? He it's a good

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Speaker 1: problem to have. Having too much talent is never an issue.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's turn it over to Alana Rizzo

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Speaker 1: We're recording this on Friday morning, so you know there

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Speaker 1: there's going to be more news and updates as the

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Speaker 1: day goes on. But the biggest, the biggest piece of

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Speaker 1: info that you're waiting on is what's up with Cad

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Speaker 3: I think it like it feels.

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Speaker 1: Like Moist is by a stereos is a slam dunk

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Speaker 1: Obviously we thought it was nothing right, the first update

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Speaker 1: the situation. Basically, what the way counsel put it is.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I took away from counsel. I think there

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Speaker 1: I think people aren't clear what's happening, and that's because

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Speaker 1: there's an area of concern in the ribs. That's how

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Speaker 1: it was described by council. That's what the MRI showed.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have another set of doctors look at it.

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Speaker 1: Why is this like that's obviously concerning in one sense

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Speaker 1: Sounds like I think the word that council used, I'll

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Speaker 3: It's just hard to assume.

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Speaker 4: That pitchers get hurt all the time. And obviously this

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Speaker 4: And obviously Cad Hordon, like virtually every pitcher ever, says

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Speaker 4: And then I thought, you know, Council's answers are certainly

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Speaker 4: And then circling back to our previous segment, the Padres

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you're you're right, he's been good

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Speaker 1: Because he can limit damage because he doesn't walk people.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't give up any hits when he gives up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why it was so bad.

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Speaker 1: He walked the guy, uh, I think just one, but

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Speaker 3: He's like, I think you'd know I'm lying. I think

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Speaker 1: And he wants to get back to where his pitches

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Speaker 1: no more tests. It's not he's not going to the

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Speaker 1: doctor to get more tests. There someone else is looking

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Speaker 1: they can notice different things that they may have more

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Speaker 3: This is how I would take it. And I think

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Speaker 1: And and like that's the initially that you should always

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Speaker 1: you want to be positive. I think it's fine to

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Speaker 1: be positive with this update. But we won't know anything

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Speaker 1: seems like everyone wants to be like, this is what's

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Speaker 1: going on when like this is a bad announcement. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not like a good announcement is he's starting game

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Speaker 1: one and he's fine, everything is all clear.

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Speaker 3: This is just like kind of a what you said,

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Speaker 3: it's a gray area like this is.

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Speaker 1: We're not sure where we're at, so don't if you

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Speaker 1: if you are, if you're the type that wants to

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Speaker 1: freak out, please go go ahead and freak out.

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Speaker 4: As good advice in general, run with your feelings. Spaceball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think showed is going to be a big,

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Speaker 1: big piece for this puzzle either way, Kate or no, Kate.

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Speaker 1: You need showda to have a good start, and Thursday

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Speaker 3: But I don't. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna give a home run up.

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Speaker 1: But are there two men on base when he does

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Speaker 1: that or is it a solo shot? And that may

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Speaker 1: just be the difference between winning and losing a game

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. All right, let's take a quick break

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Speaker 1: and touch on some maybe like a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a season recap and see where the team is heading

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Speaker 1: Patrick get It probably shouldn't have been a big weekend,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is expected to be in the lineup on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, the Cubs just need a couple wins. They

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It has been a while since Cubs fans

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Speaker 1: They got one in twenty eighteen. They haven't seen a

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Speaker 1: zero at the time. If I'm remembering things, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I think, Look, I don't think it's the end all

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Speaker 1: right now. But the Cubs are a good team at home.

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Speaker 1: And we just talked about Showda in Minaga's home run problems.

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Speaker 1: they can score in multiple ways, and that's what makes

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Speaker 1: the Padres are not a good team on the road.

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Speaker 3: They're just not. Their record indicates they struggle on the road.

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Speaker 3: what front offices are always looking for in the offseason

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Speaker 3: when they're building teams or and that's what coaching staffs

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Speaker 3: and teams always want. Just any advantage you can get,

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Speaker 3: So get into two magic numbers two. Any combination of

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Speaker 3: Cubs and Padrey's losses that equals too. And the Cubs

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Speaker 3: have home games next week.

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Speaker 4: That was the goal as soon as they clinched in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: That was a talking point. I think internally the Cubs

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Speaker 4: stress that, like even in the clubhouse right afterwards and

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Speaker 4: in meeting with the media. That's what Council had said

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Speaker 4: as well, of like bringing October baseball back to the

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Speaker 4: fans at Wrigley Field, you know, was significant into them,

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Speaker 4: even if it is more just kind of symbolically. But

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Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, after making that road trip in

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Speaker 4: April to Dodger Stadium and pet Goo Park, Cubs players

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Speaker 4: were talking about like this is a good test for us,

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Speaker 4: Like these environments are sort of playoff type environments, and

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Speaker 4: like Peco Park was electric on like weak nights in April,

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Speaker 4: so I could only imagine what it would be like

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Speaker 4: for a best of three playoff series. And I gotta

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Speaker 4: think you'd much rather have that crowd energy going for

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Speaker 4: you rather than against you. And clearly who has home

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Speaker 4: field like isn't going to absolutely determine this series. But

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Speaker 4: like you said, these organizations obsess over finding like the

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Speaker 4: smallest competitive advantage, the you know, triple a reliever who

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Speaker 4: does one thing sort of okay, but there may be

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Speaker 4: one adjustice. So clearly they'd rather play at Wrigley Field

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Speaker 4: than go to Peco Park.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think it'll be a fun environment, exciting environment.

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Speaker 1: There won't be you know, probably the last time we

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Speaker 1: covered to get well more of twenty sixteen, there's this

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Speaker 1: nervous energy. I don't think it's gonna be like that

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Speaker 1: right now, just like fans are going to be excited

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Speaker 1: and want to see playoff baseball they're itching for it,

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Speaker 1: and I think Cubs fans deserve a little fun at

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Speaker 1: Wrigley in October.

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Speaker 3: It's been too long.

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Speaker 1: One thing I do want to point touch on that

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Speaker 1: we didn't touch on in the first two segments.

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Speaker 3: It was a good series for Saya Suzuki.

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Speaker 1: I said after Tuesday's game, you hope that first that

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Speaker 1: that base hit that he got that tied up that

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Speaker 1: game that they eventually lost, was a turning point. He

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Speaker 1: got a double on Wednesday, two huge home runs and

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Speaker 1: they weren't cheapies on Thursday. Like that that that looked

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Speaker 1: like first half. Say up, I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: like that's that's three extra base hits in the last

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Speaker 1: two games.

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Speaker 3: Is that a turning point?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but you want to see that.

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Speaker 1: It had been geez, it's been like months since he'd homered.

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Speaker 1: It's been a really long time since he sent one

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Speaker 1: out of the bark and he had too that that's important.

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Speaker 3: We can you can have questions about the pitching. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like and how talker looks this weekend

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Speaker 1: is going to you know, uh, either put people.

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Speaker 3: At ease or or or freak people out one way

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Speaker 3: or the other.

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Speaker 1: Uh, but I do really feel and I've been saying this,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reiterate it. I think the offense has turned.

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Speaker 1: It may not matter if the pitching is what we saw.

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Speaker 4: We need to we need to clip that, yeah, because

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Speaker 4: you'll either be look like a genius or be another

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Speaker 4: you know, just awful run of Cubs offense and.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, if they get outscored like nine to one

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Speaker 1: in two games, clip that and send it back to me.

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Speaker 3: You are allowed to mock me. I get it. But

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Speaker 3: that's also baseball, I understand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it.

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Speaker 1: Very well could Like they just could just be completely

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Speaker 1: shut down. Dylan Cees has had a rough season, or

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Speaker 1: by era hasn't been great, but he also has a

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Speaker 1: thirty percent strikeout rate, So who the hell knows? You

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Speaker 1: could just dominate the Cubs. So yeah, I like where

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Speaker 1: the offense is headed. I like some of these relievers.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, the pitching is right now up in

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Speaker 1: the air. The starting pitching is up in the air.

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Speaker 1: But get home games and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: We said it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has questions. The Padres have plenty of them. The

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Speaker 1: Cubs are the Cubs are not the only flawged team

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Speaker 1: entering the playoffs, and they're not the only team with concerns.

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Speaker 3: You just want someone to step up.

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Speaker 1: I really liked with Counsel that to say, it's not

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Speaker 1: about it's not just about Pete, kro Armstrong and Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Somebody we don't know, and it may not be Moises

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Speaker 1: by a stereos, it may not be any like who

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Speaker 1: knows who it's going to be. But you need someone

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Speaker 1: to step up and perform, probably a pitcher frankly, for

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Speaker 1: the way that things have been looking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's refreshing to hear because we ask a lot

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Speaker 4: of questions. We listen all the time and it's this,

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Speaker 4: you know, our process, our routine, and that's that's great,

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Speaker 4: Like that's gotten them to a good place, but it's

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Speaker 4: time to put on a good show for the fans

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Speaker 4: at Wriggley Field. You know, say his home runs. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned Pete, what Tucker did in the first half, like

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Speaker 4: that was a big part of the story of the season,

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Speaker 4: how Wrigley Field was coming alive again. I think you

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Speaker 4: might have had that headline in like even April, and

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Speaker 4: it was accurate because you could sense, like, all right,

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Speaker 4: this team is interesting. There's some different l elements here

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Speaker 4: going on. You could tell the city was sort of

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Speaker 4: starve for like a competent sports organization. And obviously the

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Speaker 4: rebuild that could not be called a rebuild, was a

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Speaker 4: long time coming in terms of showing some results here.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, like go out and produce, step up,

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Speaker 4: do something, because I know they clinched on the road,

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Speaker 4: so that changed a little bit of the dynamics. But

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Speaker 4: they've been in this place for a while now. You know,

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Speaker 4: in August, you know, the playoff odds ninety eight, ninety

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Speaker 4: nine percent, you know, a very very small chance of

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Speaker 4: catching the Brewers, which did not happen. The trade deadline

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Speaker 4: was super deflating. So like, I have not quite felt

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Speaker 4: clearly you're right, the nervous energy is gone, Like it's

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Speaker 4: not nineteen oh eight, it's not a century and counting

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Speaker 4: championship drought. I think people are curious, people are excited,

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Speaker 4: but there hasn't been that same sort of build. It

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Speaker 4: felt like there was a lot of momentum early, a

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Speaker 4: lot of enthusiasm and energy on the front end of

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Speaker 4: the season, and that's just been kind of like checking

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Speaker 4: your watches waiting for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like like you said, look, Griggley can

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Speaker 1: get so intense and it's a fun atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: To work, like do our jobs.

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Speaker 1: Hey, when when those guys are When when we can

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Speaker 1: feel the energy in the press box. Yeah, when it's

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Speaker 1: like shaking, Yeah, when it's almost Yeah, when it feels

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Speaker 1: like what is it like I can actually feel the

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Speaker 1: press box move.

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Speaker 3: That's that's fun. That's exciting.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, I hope Cups fans are able to

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Speaker 1: bring that energy and it's it's a fun week at

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Speaker 1: Wrigley Field. Uh. Neither one of us want to have

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Speaker 1: to book flights to San Diego, so uh.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see if get that done.

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Speaker 1: Uh here this this weekend, all right, we will be back.

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Speaker 1: We're we're gonna be talking about playoff games, whether they're

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Speaker 1: in San Diego or Chicago whatever. You'll be hearing from

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Speaker 1: us previewing this series early next week and whatever happens

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Speaker 1: during that season. Thanks so much for listening. This is

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Speaker 1: Northside Territory. Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to

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Speaker 1: and I are on top of all things Cubs. Thanks

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