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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, everybody? Briyan Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>it is Tuesday here on the show, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that means we got.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Raw was last night, and we got more for Wressell Palooza,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, we may have a whole card. One

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<v Speaker 1>match has not been announced, but Triple H kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sort of revealed a lot on a appearance on the

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<v Speaker 1>Pat McAfee show today, So.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll tell you the lineup for that show.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of lineups for a lot of shows

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in a lot of big matches, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go over all of that today, including the

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<v Speaker 1>TENA Impact lineup for September eleventh. As Lance Storm will

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<v Speaker 1>be joining us on the show today the dulcet tones

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<v Speaker 1>of his voice, but maybe not videos. He can't get

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<v Speaker 1>of Lance to use on the program here today.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got an XT tonight. We got Dynamite Tomorrow. We

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<v Speaker 1>got some news including the rating for the SmackDown Show

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<v Speaker 1>which did extremely well because aj Lee returned.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll tell you about.

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<v Speaker 1>That as well as aw Tag Team Title Man. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be headlining CMLL this coming Friday. We've got the Raw

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<v Speaker 1>Report is noted with a bunch of matches for Russell Palooza,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will take your feedback. Might have time for

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<v Speaker 1>The show bright Over is here. Wrestling Observer Live. A

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<v Speaker 1>the computer. That seems to be the magic perfect. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start with everyone's favorite topic here briefly, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is ratings. No, this irritates people, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>notable this week. I'm gonna tell you why. So this

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<v Speaker 1>past Saturday is Collision. This past Saturday's Collision did three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand viewers. Are you ready for this? Up ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one point one percent from the week prior eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine to eight point zero seven, which is up

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent from last week. This is the best

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<v Speaker 1>audience since July twenty sixth and the best eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine since August ninth, And there was competition from

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<v Speaker 1>college football on several cable in Networ stations airing head

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<v Speaker 1>to head. And you know, I don't want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>because listen, I could sit here and just try and

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<v Speaker 1>say I was right and everything like that. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact is, listen, we don't really know. Okay, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know. But they advertised a full collision card. We

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<v Speaker 1>had four or five matches prior to collision, and the

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<v Speaker 1>show did significantly better the week prior when it did

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<v Speaker 1>a record low. We did fun Friday and we had

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<v Speaker 1>zero Goose Egg, no matches whatsoever for Collision.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had nothing announced for Collision. And you can go

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<v Speaker 1>back and track if you want, but there was a

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<v Speaker 1>period where they started advertising matches. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>two week period they started advertising matches for Dynamite. This

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<v Speaker 1>was I think at the end, I think this might

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<v Speaker 1>have been going into the ECW arena. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>is they had like two weeks and the show did fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then for whatever reason, after two good weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>advertising matches, they like stopped again. And in both cases

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamite and Collision. The show died with nothing announced. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now they've announced a bunch of stuff for Collision, and

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<v Speaker 1>Collision did better. And obviously, you know some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they advertised, you could say, well, John Moxley, he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the show the week prior when they did

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<v Speaker 1>the record low. They did John Moxley and Daniel Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks in a row. One week they did a

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<v Speaker 1>big advertising push for it, the other week they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason they did. The show did significantly better.

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<v Speaker 1>So this coming Wednesday, we already have four segments announced,

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<v Speaker 1>four matches actually, and so we'll find out Wednesday. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if Dynamite does much better on Wednesday, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>really need to think about the value of advertising matches

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<v Speaker 1>in advance now, so you.

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<v Speaker 6>Should take into consideration promotion when promoting your promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've said this a thousand times. Tony Kahan is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the booker and the promoter, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>only the booker. He doesn't promote, and you need to

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<v Speaker 1>promote as a promoter. And they promoted Collision and the

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<v Speaker 1>show did better. Now you know what's ironic. The SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>Show also did very well up thirty eight percent the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to forty ninety zo point five to one, which

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<v Speaker 1>is up eighty two percent. The best of the show

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<v Speaker 1>has done since April eighteenth. And this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an irony, but it's not. It's all because of AJ,

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<v Speaker 1>who they didn't advertise, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>But they let you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody going as SmackDown was unaware that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>very good chance that we talked about it on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>AJ is going to be on the show. Brock Lezer

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be on the show. It's exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>Siampunk's Day in aw Like. They didn't say this person's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the show, but they pretty much told

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<v Speaker 1>you that these things were gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Purpose leaked her merch. I guarantee you that was not

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<v Speaker 6>a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the point is, hey, you know what, Then they

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<v Speaker 1>advertised AJ, and they did a great number. She is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for that number. The show did very, very well.

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<v Speaker 1>So after a week of every show except NXT dying,

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<v Speaker 1>well we're back to we're back to shows doing well again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would mention one other thing as well, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, remember the one show that didn't die last

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<v Speaker 1>week anybody remember XT, And you know what NXT has

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<v Speaker 1>that none of these other shows have.

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<v Speaker 4>They always have.

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<v Speaker 1>A ton of matches announced by the time NXT goes

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<v Speaker 1>off the air. I'm just saying they had a full card.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like six seven things announced going into last

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<v Speaker 1>week's show, and they were the one show that survived

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<v Speaker 1>the violent skewering of all professional wrestling. I should also

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<v Speaker 1>mention that one quick thing here. Every week, Brandon Thurston

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<v Speaker 1>has a raw data report, and you know, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's got his formula, which I'll say, I'll say this

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Dave's formula is he is just doing division

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<v Speaker 1>based on.

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<v Speaker 4>What Netflix posts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what Netflix is doing, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the math, it does actually not work. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this is Brandon Thurston has a raw viewership report

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<v Speaker 1>that he does every week, and he's actually got an explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>And he even adds here ours view divided by runtime

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<v Speaker 1>does not consistently reconciled Netflix's report of global views.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, he's got a he's got a formula of

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<v Speaker 1>his own, and if you look at it raw, last

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<v Speaker 1>week September one did one point four million viewers, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually sounds like what you would think Raw does. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's been somewhat consistent dating back to May,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's got the show averaging about, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>point five one point six million every week. The September

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<v Speaker 1>first show did poorly, but you know, it's going up

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<v Speaker 1>against football now, so that would explain that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a much better you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>much closer to what I think Raw is doing than

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<v Speaker 1>I think. You know, Dave's formula came up to like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty thousand viewers in the US, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like, it's impossible, It's absolutely impossible. So one point

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<v Speaker 1>four million sounds about right, because it's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>aren't drawing people to the buildings. It's not like people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't into the stars or the show or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that is doing prior to football season right

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<v Speaker 1>around one point six million viewers every week, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that football has started, they're going to struggle. It'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be about one point four million. And those are your numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. By the way, I wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bring this up because we talked about on The Dave Show,

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<v Speaker 1>But did you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever meet Chuck Coates.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Max Russian Assassin stormtrooper Hans Hessler Agent Max.

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<v Speaker 4>It also believe.

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<v Speaker 6>So anyway, it's possible one of the post retirement matches

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<v Speaker 6>he could have been on the undercard, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Recall, or he could have been on one of those

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<v Speaker 1>WCW shows just backstage as enhancement, because he did WWF

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<v Speaker 1>and WCW enhancement matches for a long time. And another

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<v Speaker 1>person this week that passed away due to heart problems,

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<v Speaker 1>So all the best to his friends and family. Sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three three years old, kind of worked all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place for a long time. But uh, that was Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Coates passed away yesterday morning. All right, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do some news. We'll do the Raw Report,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about some upcoming lineups including Impact. Hey, they

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<v Speaker 1>got some matches announced in advance. That's always good. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Hendry versus Eric Young and Moose and AJ Francis Moose

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<v Speaker 1>and AJ Francis.

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<v Speaker 4>Vinnie's gonna be so excited back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Simper. Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Elverz here Wrestling Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>Lance is joining us. We got NXT Tonight flag match,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean's going right that old basket of tricks, the old

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<v Speaker 1>flag match, Ethan Page and Tavian Heights, which it's a

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<v Speaker 1>flag match. I don't think the titles on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think Tavian's got to win, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>sets up the title match. We got Fatal Influence versus Tizzy,

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<v Speaker 1>Tatum and Izzy.

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<v Speaker 4>And Zauka.

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<v Speaker 1>Did this start with like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this where we get all these stupid names

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like we just got to merge everyone's name together.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be okay, like one team did it, but

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<v Speaker 1>now all of them have to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it started like back when Vince basically killed

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<v Speaker 6>tag team wrestling and there weren't any actual you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Road Warriors, Midnight Express teams, and it was just the

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<v Speaker 6>two single guys mashed together for four months. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>when you got the Jerry Show and Tizzy and just

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<v Speaker 6>because no one's actually a full blown team or at

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<v Speaker 6>least like the Street Profits, they debuted as a team,

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<v Speaker 6>so they have a team name. But when you're just

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<v Speaker 6>single stars mushed together, they mushed together names like Tizzy,

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<v Speaker 6>lame Yes, Suck Glad. I was an impact player, not

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<v Speaker 6>whatever name you'd come up with, Chancy, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you and uh just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see that'd be uh incredible, storm storm Edible.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go. I might get over today storm Edible.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually that might people like their edibles.

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<v Speaker 1>Javon versus Josh Briggs, Faby Apache and Laney Reid and

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<v Speaker 1>his speed tournament match. I can't even make some of

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<v Speaker 1>these up. Trick Williams and a mystery partner confront Di

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<v Speaker 1>I Y in a bizarre set up for that, as

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<v Speaker 1>the Babyfaces were total heels to poor Trick, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Dark State versus Hank and Tank for the tag team titles.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's tonight. Wednesday Dynamite, Hangman and Josh Alexander, non

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<v Speaker 1>title Tony Storm and sky Blue in a Philly street

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<v Speaker 1>fight which I presume is non title Shelton, Benjamin, Ricochet

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<v Speaker 1>and Mercedes and Emmy Soccer versus Rijo and Alex Windsor.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Wednesday, And then, like I said, Thursday, Joe Hendry,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Young and Moose and A. J.

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<v Speaker 4>Francis, Ga Lee Big Hoss fight there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a mean guy match if I ever saw one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then World's Collide Friday. I can't wait for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too late to drive down The Kingo versus Dominic

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mega Title, Psycho Clown and Pugano against Kofi

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<v Speaker 1>and Xavier, The New Day, The Rain of darrainus number

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<v Speaker 1>one contenders Mancinatti and by Apache Mixed Tag Finn and

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Sand versus Mister Iguana and Lola ice Ejode Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wagner Junior defends the Latin American title against Dragon Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>J D. McDonough and Ethan Page in a four way.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at Luca's Showcase with Laparca, Mosquerito, Sagrada, Nino Ambergesa,

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<v Speaker 1>Cruz del Toro, Joaquin Wilde in Dorado Mini Abaizmo Negro

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<v Speaker 1>and not Octagon Junior as he almost got killed by Pegano,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like he's gonna be out of action

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<v Speaker 1>for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Like sat on his face.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm, Pogano's uh forte is not moves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out someone had an idea for

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<v Speaker 1>you and Valvenus.

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<v Speaker 6>We were a tag team at one point in time,

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<v Speaker 6>although technical actually I was. I was a tag team

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<v Speaker 6>partner of Chief Morlees as well as Valvenus's Stinus.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus, Yeah, there's gotta be something with that one,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Got a couple of news notes here. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Triple H was on Pad McAfee show and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a spoiler right now. Cody will be

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<v Speaker 1>back in Indianapolis, and so obviously Brandy just recently gave

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<v Speaker 1>birth and so he's been off the road for.

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<v Speaker 4>A little while.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is believed that that's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Drew McIntyre match. That'll be at Russell Palooza. They

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<v Speaker 1>are doing the Drew McIntire Randy Orton match on SmackDown Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty big match for SmackDown to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Match, smart that they advertise it ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Randy Orton Drew McIntyre. Also, there's a title match

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<v Speaker 1>with Tiffany and Jade and Brock Lesner appears, which is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because Brock will there, but Sina will not, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he's just gonna do a promo or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. We also have the Triple A I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the AEW tag team titles on the line. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show in Mexico City and Bandido and Brody King

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<v Speaker 1>will be facing Zondacon Junior and Defunto. That's the main

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<v Speaker 1>event of the show, an AW tag title match. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other matches on the show as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up on Friday.

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<v Speaker 6>Come on, we were making fun of amalgamated names. At

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<v Speaker 6>least push Brodido.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another one that's at least that one. I'm alright

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<v Speaker 1>with bro Dido, but I'm not sure about the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of all of these. All right, if you have questions

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<v Speaker 1>for the show, everybody, we got a few minutes for

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<v Speaker 1>the raw report.

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<v Speaker 4>We like to save that for the last segment. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so, apparently Octagon Junior's doctor cleared him, so he

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<v Speaker 1>may be on the show. All right, Listen, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor. Whatever's doctor says, but uh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>man four seven eight zero seven five sixty six. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he text message line that is four two five seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero seven five sixty six fw online at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Whatever's on your mind? We can uh talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it here today lal Stinas is this guy's name

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 4>And Val? That sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's bad enough that a guy with a first

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<v Speaker 6>name Lance is doing a gimmick with a porn star.

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<v Speaker 1>Sportsan here says, didn't Danielson retire to be with his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Commentary every week still takes just as much time away

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<v Speaker 1>from home. I'm not saying he needs to wrestle or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I can tell you this about daughters. They do

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<v Speaker 1>start to get older and next thing you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in school all the time, and then some after school. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think one day a week on the road

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<v Speaker 1>doing commentary. I mean, clearly he's willing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>It, especially if it's a Wednesday and she's in school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like weekends are when you get you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 6>be home to spend time with your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, here's the other thing too. Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's doing commentary all right, So what that means is

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<v Speaker 1>he can fly in and out the same day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if he were a wrestler and he was in a

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<v Speaker 1>main events segment, I mean, maybe you'd want to fly

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<v Speaker 1>him in the day before just in case there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>travel issues and you don't want to lose that on

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<v Speaker 1>a big match. But like as a commentator, something goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make the show. I mean, it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the world. So I think that he can

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<v Speaker 1>just get in and out on one day and be

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<v Speaker 1>back home so that.

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<v Speaker 6>He need less prep during the day too. Yeah, getting

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<v Speaker 6>in mid afternoon, catching an early flight Wednesday morning would

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<v Speaker 6>be a piece of cake for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he needs to do is he can do on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. I mean, he knows everything about everybody anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could easily just fly in late in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>fly out as soon as the show's over, get out

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<v Speaker 1>of there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they make him take down the ring.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't suspect, so no, it's possible. I think he's

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<v Speaker 6>paid enough dues at this point in time in his career,

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<v Speaker 6>accomplished enough. He's not on ring crew.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I did hear, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this was all speculation, But you know, I heard from

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<v Speaker 1>one person that said, you know, if this guy, if

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is going back on the road one day

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<v Speaker 1>a week, that suggests that they think Breeze coming back

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<v Speaker 1>for sure for her one day a week.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see. We'll see what ends up happening. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>This person says, are you going to review and never

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<v Speaker 1>sorry over Brian and Vinnie as a comparison to Triple Mania.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we could try. We are going to review

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<v Speaker 1>the World's Collide show this weekend. Tell you that much,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would be willing to review the CMLL anniversary show,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do that here at some point.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure Craig won't be happy if you had another show.

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<v Speaker 1>Too bad, brother, Well, it's not adding. He just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch the other shows. If he has to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A show, he's just not gonna watch SmackDown in Collision.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how he gets arounded.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even read what this person said. Your name

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<v Speaker 1>should be. I'll tell you during the break. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your other gimmick. What is Lance's thought

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<v Speaker 1>about John Moxley as a heel but in reality he's

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<v Speaker 1>a babyface.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't watch it enough to comment too much, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's odd. I've had it explain to me a few times,

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't fully get it because it falls into

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<v Speaker 6>that weird category of if he's a baby or he's

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<v Speaker 6>trying to be a babyface. By saving the company, you

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<v Speaker 6>have to accept the premise that the company he is

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<v Speaker 6>not good right now. And I've never liked the we

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<v Speaker 6>need to turn things around angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me let me if I may. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>so much of these trying to save the company. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably have said that myself in explaining this, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more that this Moxley character just wants it

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<v Speaker 1>to be its best and he wants new people to

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<v Speaker 1>step up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not so much like.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not it's not as good as it should be. No,

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<v Speaker 6>and talent aren't doing as well as they should. Listen,

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<v Speaker 6>that's an odd story to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, is wwe doing great right now?

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<v Speaker 6>Not as great as they were?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, i mean business wise, they're doing things. They're on fire, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still have a developmental because they know we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna always need new talent, We're always gonna need new stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean it sucks now. It just means we got

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<v Speaker 1>to set the table for the future. That's more what

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live Lance, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think of Monday Night Raw?

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<v Speaker 4>The usual?

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<v Speaker 6>It was okay. I find thee I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>watching the audience more than I am a show far

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<v Speaker 6>too often. Like I get that it's fun for the

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<v Speaker 6>audience to wave their hands and yeat, but I get

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<v Speaker 6>tired of just watching fans eating, or fans reacting or

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<v Speaker 6>fans singing. I tune in to watch the stars and

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<v Speaker 6>watch the wrestling, and I find I sit there watching

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<v Speaker 6>the fans more than I would care to.

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<v Speaker 4>My big issue is this Lance. These matches, dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Four of them all, I'll have the same finish.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like it's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, I mean, they do run ins everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I think the problem is, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>do run ins everywhere, they're so patterned in WWE, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they have a patterned run in leading to the

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<v Speaker 1>finished deal. It's not even like it's different every time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is the from the comeback on.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually think WWE has been booking some good stuff lately.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take out the run ins they've they've really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stepped up that period from the comeback to

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<v Speaker 1>the finish, you know, there's there's more twists and turns

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<v Speaker 1>now and.

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<v Speaker 6>And to their credit last night they gave us finishes

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<v Speaker 6>at least, but there was four minor involvement from the

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<v Speaker 6>person at ringside leading to the heel going over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and there were pinfalls at least, but very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is from the from the comeback to

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<v Speaker 1>the finish, I feel like the matches have really they've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stepped it up a little bit in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of putting them together, but it's at the expense of

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<v Speaker 1>from the bell ringing to the comeback, these matches are

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<v Speaker 1>so boring, Like they're so all exactly the same, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just bored to tears. And then finally they do

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<v Speaker 1>the big come back, and like it takes me a

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<v Speaker 1>while to get into it because I'm so bored leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to it, and they got so much talent, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like, I don't know if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to blame the agents, but it does kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like there's some laziness here where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>just do whatever for the first nine minutes and then

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<v Speaker 1>let's concentrate on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>From the comeback forward.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm quite sure the agent slash producer isn't telling them that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think they're telling them that like on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's and it's probably the wrestlers also know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first five minutes is going to be during

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<v Speaker 1>commercial and then you know what it could be.

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<v Speaker 6>And again I'm speculating because obviously I'm not there, but

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<v Speaker 6>I have seen it many times as a wrestler and

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<v Speaker 6>as a producer that if you have a very busy day,

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<v Speaker 6>whether the production meeting gets out late or you have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of pretapes, you have a lot of backstage stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>you know that you're really really busy, and obviously if

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<v Speaker 6>you're limited in time, you will all right, let's put

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<v Speaker 6>together the finish. Let's put together or go home. Let's

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<v Speaker 6>get all these really good near falls, let's make it exciting.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you're running out of time, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll figure out the last out there and the beginning

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get the time if you don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of time in the afternoon, And it's possible that with

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<v Speaker 6>the high level of production and all the pre tapes

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff that might be occupying a lot of their time,

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<v Speaker 6>and they have to focus on the end and don't

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<v Speaker 6>get to focus as much on the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thing that I'm not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>is the whole main event scene on Raw with Braun Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I think bron Breaker is great. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would be even further than.

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<v Speaker 4>He is already. It just took him a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bronson Reid is great, But they're so determined

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<v Speaker 1>to get over braun Breaker that you've got this this

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<v Speaker 1>two person unit that's like it's not even like the

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<v Speaker 1>Hurt Syndicate where like they're killing all these jobber teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, these dudes are out here killing all your

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<v Speaker 1>main events, and you know, in a fair fight, the

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<v Speaker 1>babyfaces get killed every time. Then a third babyface has

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<v Speaker 1>to come out with a weapon, they still get killed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally when they manage to send the Heels packing,

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<v Speaker 1>then these three idiot babyfaces like screw everything up for

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And it's like during the main event Angle,

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<v Speaker 1>the fans were actually chanting for Paul Hayman, the Heel manager,

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<v Speaker 1>because your babyfaces are so stupid and incompetent.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it opened up with Jimmy and Jay coming out

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<v Speaker 1>and they make fun of Bron and Braun and Paul

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<v Speaker 1>and La Night ends up coming out to attack the

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<v Speaker 1>Heels and they cut him off and the USOS hit

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<v Speaker 1>dives and as always in the middle of the Babyfaces

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<v Speaker 1>running wild three on two on these heels, somebody does

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<v Speaker 1>something stupid and La Knight moves and Jay gets squished,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, even though it's clearly an accident, the entire

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>story is Jay getting angry that La got him, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 6>If La didn't move, they both would have got squished.

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<v Speaker 6>Jay would not have benefited if La Knight didn't move.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So then they signed La Night versus Bronson for

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<v Speaker 1>the main event at AJ and L Grande Americano, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know after the comeback it was. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good and then Dre another El Grande interfered, Dragonly ran down,

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<v Speaker 1>got rid of him, and then AJ hit the Styles

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<v Speaker 1>Clash and pinned El Grande and last few minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>this were very good.

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<v Speaker 6>And AJ I believe the only Babyface that won Tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, we had Adam Pierce meeting with EO. Something's

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>up with Stephanie. She she was not on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>They merely said she couldn't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>He said she.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be good for Russell Palooza, but it's a mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully she's all right. And then we had Oscar

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie showing up and Nicki had been talking to EO

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and Oscar told her to stay away from her, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Nicki got angry and then they got into a

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<v Speaker 1>big argument and it led to a match later on.

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<v Speaker 1>There were three matches signed during the show, which means

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Adam Pierce had nothing planned. And we had Lyra and Raquel,

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<v Speaker 1>which I actually thought was one of the best matches

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I thought they were great together. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they actually did a lot of different unique things

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<v Speaker 1>in this match. And finally there was a minor distraction

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<v Speaker 1>by ro sand and Raquel Pinder with the Daejanobaum.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought they did a good job.

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<v Speaker 6>M this was actually I should mention my very first

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<v Speaker 6>exposure to Joe tessitur really yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I like Joe tests.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 6>I find him a little His excitement level is fairly consistent,

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 6>which to me feels a little unnatural. It doesn't go

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<v Speaker 6>up and down as much.

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<v Speaker 1>With give him a few weeks see what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about him.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he going to be regularly on raw moving forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Well until Wade? Actually, you know, I don't know he

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>might be. I was told he's on Raw, so he

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:38.919
<v Speaker 1>may be permanently on Raw.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I guess I'll be able to give him a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>We had an awesome segment with the war Raiders and

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Penta and Adam Pierce. I encourage everybody to watch this segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Penta he's very upset with Adam Pierce for not loving

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<v Speaker 1>him like the fans do. And Adam Pierce is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to plead his case, I do I like you a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and Penta.

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<v Speaker 4>Is not having it, just shakes his head nope.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he announces he does not like the Intercontinental champion,

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>demands a title shot, and then Russev shows up and

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<v Speaker 1>gets in uh Penti's face and they announced a match

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<v Speaker 1>for those guys for later on.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you aware of Adam Pierce's gimmick on social media

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 6>where he posts loves somebody today. This was a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a play on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh is that what that is?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Every day?

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<v Speaker 6>Yea love somebody today socials.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Penta's upset that he's not loving him. Big Jim

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>met with AJ and Dragon Lee and Jay ends up

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>walking up. He's on his way out of the building

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<v Speaker 1>and jim says, we need to we need to work together.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to get to wrestle Polluzin. Jay wants

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<v Speaker 1>none of this, and he says he's leaving, He's out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Jimmy tells him, you're starting to sound like Roman.

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<v Speaker 4>We had the AJ Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Segment to set up Wreussell Palooza, and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>time these segments because Netflix they cut out commercials, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they cut out commercials, the clock just jumps forward

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, so it's hard to figure out.

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like they went twenty five minutes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew that this thing was hot, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we are going to milk this for all

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth. And AJ came out and she cut a

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<v Speaker 1>long promo talking about her time off and therapy and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that went down with Becky. And then Becky's music

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<v Speaker 1>hits and she comes out and they go a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Seth's music hits and he comes out and

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<v Speaker 1>he's being a jerk, and then finally see him Punk

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>shows up. And long story short, punk makes Seth so

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<v Speaker 1>angry that Seth agrees to the mixtag at Russell Palooza,

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<v Speaker 1>which Becky does not want. She does not want this match.

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<v Speaker 1>She is petrified of aj Lee. But the match is on,

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<v Speaker 1>and so aj who had been wearing Becky's belt which

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<v Speaker 1>he stole on SmackDown, she did give the belt back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought it was It was a good segment overall, It.

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<v Speaker 4>Was just long.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and somehow aj Lee has aged weeks in the

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<v Speaker 6>last ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically she looks pretty much exactly the same. We

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<v Speaker 1>had another Bailey segment. Then Russev faced Penta, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a It was it was not as good as I expected,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of there and out was you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>had new Dan Grayson Waller out there and Penta went

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<v Speaker 1>up top, Xavier jumped on the apron, Penta booted him,

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<v Speaker 1>got kicked on the way down, pinned your usual horrific

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<v Speaker 1>WWE finish. I mean this one was interference directly leading

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the finish.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and there was interference earlier because Penta had to

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<v Speaker 6>dive out on the on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mall at the Nicki Bella Oscar match, which actually They

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<v Speaker 1>had a straight match, no interference, and a clean finish,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was Osca tapping her out with the Oscar lock.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a little bit of interference when Osca hid

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<v Speaker 6>behind Kyrie and used her as a distraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Beget that did happen, but I don't count that because

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie wanted nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 4>She was an innocent victim in all of this.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, relatively clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tap out from Nicki Bella, which surprised me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if they need another female heel.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll find out.

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 6>They think they're gonna turn nicky heel.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of hm, kinda.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Nicki and Oska got into a big confrontation

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and Rhea showed up to back up Nicki. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the time being, looks like we're just going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a a tag program here. And also Oscar versus Rhea

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>is coming. And then the main event was Bronson Reid

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<v Speaker 1>in La Knight, which same deal. I thought this match

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>was pretty good, Like Bronson is very good. Bronson is

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>good in the ring and on the mic, like he

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>carried that opening segment with bron Breaker, and La Knight

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>has very much stepped up his.

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<v Speaker 4>Game since coming to the main roster.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was of course interferenced by bron Breaker.

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<v Speaker 1>He jumped up on the apron, La knocked him off,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Bronson grabbed the DVD hit the pin. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same finish as the Penta match two matches earlier,

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>exact same finish, and that's when they did the big

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>schmas where two heels beat down three men with a chair,

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and the three men were the one with a chair.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>The two heels beat them up, and then finally they

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>send him packing. And then the three baby faces are

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in the ring and La, who doesn't like anybody, is

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>willing to shake Jimmy's hand for helping him. But then

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he turns around and JJ's years a guy. That's his

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>receipt from earlier in the evening, even though early in

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the evening was a mistake and this was on purpose.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So everyone booed jay you know you've got you've got

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>an angle where they're booing Jay uso, they're chanting for

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Paul Hayman.

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like, this ain't working.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you're doing, it's not working right now. They did

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<v Speaker 1>yat at the end, but yeah, they did eat a

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit but it wasn't.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 6>The Roxanne finish also a slight distraction into a few.

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a little bit of a distraction, but a

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>rock sand which is like on the outside. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she jumped all the way up on the apron

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<v Speaker 1>like those other two. Anyway, back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got nothing this week? You're off the road, brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and even the I get to drive. We're in

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<v Speaker 6>Edmonton next.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 6>No flights for me until Bound for Glory.

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<v Speaker 4>How did it go this past week?

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<v Speaker 6>It was a lot of fun, really great crowd in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 6>And this isn't a spoiler because it's been stooged off online.

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<v Speaker 6>Ken Anderson made a surprise return to TNA, and I

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<v Speaker 6>got to produce the match he was in and it

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<v Speaker 6>was a lot of fun working with him.

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<v Speaker 4>He came back and wrestled, He was.

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<v Speaker 6>There and wrestled. I won't give any more details because

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 6>it hasn't aired yet, but there's spoilers everywhere online, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not stooging anything off. But he was one of

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<v Speaker 6>the guys I trained in OVW in like four five

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<v Speaker 6>and it was a lot of fun getting to see

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<v Speaker 6>him and produce with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to see when the last time he had a

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>match was.

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<v Speaker 6>Says he still wrestles occasionally a couple times a month.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see the last time he was actually on a

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<v Speaker 6>major platform on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Profi dB has three matches since twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't sound right.

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<v Speaker 6>Three matches since before the pandemic. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Battleground Championship for Wrestling on July twenty twenty five. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hardys Reunion on May in May of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>So, but he was a former two time TNA World

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<v Speaker 6>champ and he made his return. The crowd was quite happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll bounce that well. Check out Impact on Thursday, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lance is gonna be back.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll see when you got.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing new, brother, I'm free on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I could probably sit in on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>I can plug some Impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, all right, we're gonna wrap it up everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back later tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian and Vinie and Granny and Craig and Shawn Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an Observer Radio last night, another one coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow tomorrow Observed Live with Tom and that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk to you after a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast

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