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Speaker 1: Hi, this is jaceo Utah. Welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury Todd's wellucky, it's a Philly show.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, June sixteenth, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody

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Speaker 2: is doing well. I hope all the dad's out there

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Speaker 2: enjoyed their Father's Day. Did you guys enjoy your Father's Day?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Watched the little US open Little phills. Yeah, cooked

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Speaker 1: little chicken. It was an outstanding day.

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Speaker 3: I was working, but I got to spend got to

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Speaker 3: spend some time with my mom, Judy, and my brother David,

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Speaker 3: my sister in law, my partner Lori and Sophia came

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Speaker 3: up with us as well. My one daughter. My other

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Speaker 3: one was up in New York still, but it was

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Speaker 3: a nice We had a nice little dinner, got a

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Speaker 3: chance to see jj On do his thing, very emotional,

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Speaker 3: very cool.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know it was going to come down to the

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Speaker 3: wire with how difficult that course is. I mean, do

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Speaker 3: you know that I actually played that course? At one point.

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Speaker 3: I had a buddy of mine named Mark Flaherty, who's

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Speaker 3: got to rest his soul. He passed away in the

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Speaker 3: covid uh era and He was a roommate of my

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Speaker 3: brothers at Duke University, and he was a controller in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: He was the city controller for at one point, but

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Speaker 3: he was to go to Pittsburgh all the time. I

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Speaker 3: think he was a member there and he took me

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Speaker 3: there one time a long time ago. And I don't

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Speaker 3: really even remember the course that well. I probably I

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Speaker 3: probably butchered it. But yeah, man, those ruffs were ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I think the roughs were too ridiculous. Of course is

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like I want to see.

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Speaker 3: Almost too hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't want to see just survival.

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Speaker 1: I want to see some like, uh, you know, great golf.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's it's great golf having to survive

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Speaker 1: that course, but it just seems like the primary goal

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Speaker 1: is to just survive. I want to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: a guy go out there and just accept. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you have to tear it up, but you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe a nice for the week, like a chance like

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Speaker 1: a six under, you know, but whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an amazing, great, great effort. At the end.

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Speaker 3: That putt was so ridiculous and so cool. Guy's got

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Speaker 3: a two put and he rolls in like a sixty

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Speaker 1: Sixty sixty four feet five inches. Just to put that

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Speaker 1: in perspective, that's that's four feet longer than than Zach

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Speaker 1: Wheeler was throwing the ball to j t row Ludo someday.

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Speaker 2: My god, what do you guys think? Are you shoot

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Speaker 2: there today? You roll out there today?

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Speaker 3: One hundred and five?

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Speaker 1: Brother, I wouldn't even you know. I would lose all

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Speaker 1: my balls by the second hole.

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Speaker 2: Based off the way I golf, I would definitely have

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Speaker 2: to bring like thirty six balls, and hopefully I could

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Speaker 2: actually finish with one of them.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to have Caddy find my ball. I'll never

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Speaker 3: be on the pairway like you have to actually have

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Speaker 1: By the way, Rubert, I was in the running for

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Speaker 1: closest to the pin the other day for a good

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Speaker 1: part of the day, and at the yard at the

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Speaker 1: Ashburn Callous tournament on the whole number nine were you

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Speaker 1: really for like three hours? And then then I got

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Speaker 1: bumped in the last couple of rounds.

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Speaker 3: I pulled mine into the bunker gym. I was pinn

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Speaker 1: I was thirteen feet three inches. For most of you know,

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Speaker 1: I was the leader for most.

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Speaker 3: Of the day because it was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: People kept coming up to me and say, you might

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Speaker 3: And then and then got it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody got it within seven feet, so.

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Speaker 3: That would have been really nice.

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Speaker 2: That would have been It was a good event. Is

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Speaker 2: that a good event?

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Speaker 1: It was a great event.

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Speaker 3: It went great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, thanks then, yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome, guys.

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Speaker 2: The Phillies this weekend they swept the Blue Jays, and

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Speaker 2: this was something I did not know the first time

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Speaker 2: the Phillies have swept the Blue Jays in a series

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Speaker 2: of three or more games. Ever, that's kind of wild

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Speaker 2: considering how long I duly play has been going on for.

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Speaker 2: They've never swept swept the Blue Jays in a series

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Speaker 2: of three or more games. They won four in a

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Speaker 2: talking about what kind of changes needed to be made.

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Speaker 2: So that's a great time to get started today's episode

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Speaker 2: with first Pitch. First Pitch, guys back to us by

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Speaker 2: our friends at Parks Casino. Parks Casino right off of

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Speaker 2: I ninety five and State Road, last week, we're talking.

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Speaker 2: You got no Bryce Harper. These guys can't get an

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Speaker 2: extra base hit with a runner, nobody can hitch, nobody

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Speaker 3: Sky is falling.

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Speaker 2: Season's over right, They've lost nine out of ten. They

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Speaker 2: can only beat the Rockies Pirates and what other bad

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Speaker 2: team that they play in that retched the.

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Speaker 1: Eighties, that's the Savannah Bananas.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't beat the Savannah Bananas.

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Speaker 2: And but last week they beat the Cubs two out

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Speaker 2: and they sweep the Blue Jays, an ale wild card contender.

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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the offensive numbers, just a great

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Speaker 2: all those guys had big hits this week. It was

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Speaker 3: Their bats.

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Speaker 1: And you know, even yesterday Sunday, Bryson Scott for four,

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Speaker 1: so really good off defensive performance the whole home stand.

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Speaker 3: It really could be. I was just impressed with everybody

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Speaker 3: Those guys seemed to put together some pretty darn good

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Speaker 3: Both of those guys had basically came game winning extra

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Speaker 3: But you know, it was one of those team efforts.

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Speaker 3: See yesterday's game, six players had multiple hits. Six and

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Speaker 3: But other than that, I mean, six guys got more

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Speaker 3: and that's doing some damage against a very good pitcher

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Speaker 3: who had been outstanding. There was that narrative that these

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Speaker 2: Brandon marsh Ruman, you said had eight hits last week,

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Speaker 2: And as I'm watching these games, I looked this up

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Speaker 2: Uh, And same thing with JT. I'm watching every time

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Speaker 1: I guess Marsh's got a knack I've noticed for like

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Speaker 3: He stepped it up when he needed to step it up,

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Speaker 3: offensive player. It's there's some kind of judgment I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Max Kepler too kind of right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody's talking about him in left field his production left field.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny that the last week both of those

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Speaker 2: guys have stepped up. The only guy in the lineup

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Speaker 2: that did not have an OPS of eight hundred or better.

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Speaker 2: That shows you how well the Phillies were hitting the

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Speaker 2: ball was Bryson Stott. He he struggled this week. But

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Speaker 2: I mean Kyle Schwarber, he only hit one ninety, but

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Speaker 2: he walks seven times. He hit two home runs. Shocking, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hey we're back. It is Monday, and guys, you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do Manco Manco Best Week, Manco and Manco

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Speaker 2: Best Week. It's where we pick our best Phillies player

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, Mark Calbury, Edmonton and uh and Midland, Texas. Hey.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty darn good at that. When I was

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Speaker 1: Jim, who you got for my Mancos and Mancos best

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Speaker 1: That was really that can really mess up. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: Love what I'm seeing. I don't know that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: Love it yea, and they need I like the I

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Art Mahan was the former Villanova long time after his

437
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: playing career. He played one season for the Phillies nineteen forty,

438
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Speaker 2: I was the Villa Leanova baseball coach and longtime ad

439
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: so oh cool, yeah, yeah, So I'm going with auto

440
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: camp if he can't figure that out. He had a

441
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: just a great week by him, a great story and

442
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, team looking for offense. You see him put

443
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: up those numbers in Triple A. Who knows what the

444
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: rest of the season is gonna look like for Auto Camp.

445
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: Who knows how much he's gonna play, Who knows where

446
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna play, Who knows how it's gonna play out.

447
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: But this week, great week by him. Everybody was wondering

448
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: after seeing the success he had and all at all

449
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: levels for the Phillies, particular this season in Triple A.

450
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Speaker 2: So congratulations to Auto Camp on a big week.

451
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Speaker 3: Hey, the cool thing about this, the good thing about

452
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: this is, I mean we had a ton of choices,

453
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: that's how good the week was. We could have but

454
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: we could have chosen, you know, best of the week

455
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: could have been like ten different guys. And that's a

456
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: really good sign of a of a more complete ball

457
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Speaker 3: ball club.

458
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Speaker 1: He's a good impressive the way he stays back on

459
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: breaking balls. Yesterday a couple of breaking balls down, you know,

460
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: tough pitches, he got the bathhead to them, stays back

461
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: drove him for base hits. He's got a good stick man.

462
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: You know they're looking for if they could get a

463
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: right handed bat and left field. That would be an

464
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: awfully nice platoon with Kepler, I think. But he's only

465
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: played seven games in his entire pro career in left field.

466
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: I know they're going to work him out there to

467
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: see what happens, but man, that would be something I

468
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: definitely would take a peek at. I know defense is

469
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Speaker 1: a shortcoming for him. He's playing first base. He's had

470
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: a couple of little struggles over there, but the bat

471
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Speaker 1: is impressive. When I look at Otto camp twenty five,

472
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Speaker 1: almost twenty six years old, when he was in college,

473
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Speaker 1: I think somebody should have and he was an infield

474
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: or somebody should have said, have you ever have you

475
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Speaker 1: ever tried catching?

476
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Speaker 3: Because I agree with that, with that bad I agree

477
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Speaker 3: with that with that bad agree.

478
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Speaker 1: He could, you know, in a premium position like that,

479
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: You know, that's you know, always on the lookout for

480
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: a kid who can convert to catch, and you know,

481
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: then you can really elevate, you can go, you can

482
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: move quick if you can catch. You know. So I

483
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: don't know if it's too late now, but you know

484
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: it's uh.

485
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Speaker 3: Maybe I should have made you my scout instead of

486
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: that's the area scale could I could have made you

487
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Speaker 3: like a real scout.

488
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Speaker 1: I tell I tell dads all the time around here.

489
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Speaker 1: He's a good little player. Make him, you know, at

490
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: least put it in his toolbox. Teach him to catch

491
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: so he has as he moves up. Because as you

492
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: move up, uh, you know, short stop, middle and field,

493
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: they all get tougher. Yeah.

494
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: Hey, there's no more premium position than there is a catcher.

495
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Speaker 1: You've got a good If you've got a decent bat,

496
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: and you got some hands and a head, you can

497
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Speaker 1: go behind the plate and you can take this game

498
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Speaker 1: a long way.

499
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Speaker 3: Ye.

500
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Speaker 2: I mean JT could have been you know, a Best

501
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: Week Player of the Week nomine I mean what.

502
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Speaker 1: He was a short stop.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a sign of him, though, getting things

504
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: turned around. It would be so big because you know,

505
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: doing an his free agent here for him personally for

506
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: this team. Yes, we're all to get him going, man,

507
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: because you know the past, well, the first several weeks

508
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: of the season we've been talking about he's you know,

509
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: his career numbers right now lineup to be the lowest

510
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: of his career. Man, if he could get going a

511
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: little bit and just provide a little bit more punch,

512
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: at the bottom of that bottom third, that bottom you know,

513
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: half of that lineup would be and.

514
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Speaker 3: That'd be great. And it's really about it, and he's

515
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: pretty stubborn about it. It's really about his timing on

516
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: his leg kick. I don't think everybody's like, oh, JT's toast.

517
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: He's toast. He's not toast. He's one of he's one

518
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: of the best. I mean, the man is one of

519
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: the better athletes there are on on the field. He

520
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: and marsh I think are two best athletes they've got,

521
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: I mean, really fantastic athletes. And he keeps himself in

522
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: tremendous shape. I mean he's catching every day, he's still

523
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: catching well all those doing all those things. He's not toast.

524
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of him being able to get

525
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Speaker 3: his foot down in time. And I think that timing

526
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: mechanism throws him off for a while and makes him

527
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: a little bit more streaky than he used to be.

528
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Speaker 1: I'm really happy for him. He had a really, really

529
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: good home stand. There is no more dedicated Philly. There

530
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: is no more durable Philly, no tougher guy. He takes

531
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Speaker 1: a beaten and he keeps coming back. So it was

532
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: great swinging like that in not homestand.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Hey, Ruben knew we were talking at

534
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: the top of the show where you're talking about parks.

535
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: You've hit that. You hit up parks every once in

536
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: a while, right, You're a When I was a.

537
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Bounty guy County, Yeah, when I was up in Bucks County,

538
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: I used to do it all the time. It's my

539
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: casino of choice. I mean, you know, besides the gambling stuff,

540
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: they had basically everything. I mean they have the slots,

541
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: they have the State of the Arts sports book, they

542
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: got the poker room. Uh, but they have a lot

543
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: more than that. I mean, it's sort of a destination place,

544
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: it really is. There's places to eat. I mean you

545
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: would get your food on. I mean there's some great

546
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: places to eat. The Park Real Steakhouse, the Bamboo Noodle House,

547
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: the Gastro Pub, Liberty Bell Gastro Pub, Chicky's and Pets

548
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: have gone to several times, you know, on top of like,

549
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, the gambling stuff, I mean gone and done

550
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 3: the entertainment, uh that you know, they've had headliners, they've

551
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: had you know, all types of stuff. I've gone to

552
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: see Old Dominion there. They have some great stuff, some

553
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: tons of comedians, Ken Young, I've seen Nicky Glazer, I've

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: seen there as well. I mean so over the over

555
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: the years, I've seen a lot of stuff there, and

556
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: it's a really great place to just hang out. I

557
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: mean you don't just have to go, you know, to

558
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: gamble necessarily. You can go do some gambling obviously, but

559
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: you can also go and just have some fun. And

560
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: I think they got a couple of great headliners coming

561
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: up on July twelfth. It's a comedian Mark Norman, who's

562
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: really darned good. And then as as far as entertainment,

563
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: they got the pop band UB forty that and that's

564
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: a pretty popular band. I mean, there's a lot of

565
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: stuff going on there at Parks Casino, and I'm I'm

566
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: excited about getting back there sometimes soon, taking the family.

567
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: And by the way, you got to be twenty one

568
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: because if you have a gamming problem, you got to

569
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: call one hundred one eight hundred gambler. Just saying just.

570
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Kind of follow the rules.

571
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: Got fun, follow the rules, have fun, follow the rules. Uh,

572
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: he was thinking about the show today Monday morning, and

573
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: then uh, like, what are we going to talk about today?

574
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: What are we going to talk about, well, a lot

575
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about. The team goes five and

576
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: six or five and wins five out of six during

577
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: a homestand and then last night the Red Sox sweet

578
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: the Yankees and then they Raphaeled Devers. They kick his

579
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: butt off the plane, traded, traded to the Giants. Wow,

580
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: you know what did? Did that blow you away? And uh,

581
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: you know, really kicking off the trade deadline before six

582
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: weeks ahead of time.

583
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Speaker 3: So I will tell you this. Jeff Barry, who's one

584
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: of the you know, Buster Posey's advisors, used to be

585
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: his agent. Now he's part of the advisory group I

586
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: think in that organization. I've had had some discussions with

587
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: him after Buster got his job, because you know, Busterer

588
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: was the kind of guy that I'd love to like

589
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: work with. So I talked to him about the possibility

590
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: of maybe doing that at some point. But that didn't happen. Obviously,

591
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: they made, you know, really good decisions, brought some other

592
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: people back. But he's a baseball guy. He's old school man,

593
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: he's bold. He wanted That's why he immediately got the shortstop.

594
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: He knew he needed a shortstop to solidify the middle

595
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: of his of his diamond, got a damas he knew

596
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: he had a great third basement defensively, already knows he

597
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: needs some nose, he needs some offense, and he just

598
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: he went out and got a made a bold move

599
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: to get a really damn good hitter, one of the

600
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: best left anders in baseball. And uh, you know they

601
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: do have you know, they got some money over there

602
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. But I love the move man. This

603
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: guy wants to win. He wants to put the San

604
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: Francisco Giants back on the map. And he's doing it

605
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: with a guy who's disgruntled in Boston. And I don't

606
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: think they handled it at all well with him bouncing

607
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: around with the Bregman thing and the DH and the

608
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: first base and all that stuff, and they sort of

609
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: disrespected him. He was probably upset with it. And now

610
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: he's gonna get a lot of respect there in San

611
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: Francisco and he's probably going to rake.

612
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great He's a guy who will use

613
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: the whole field, right Reuben.

614
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, and with power, and you better.

615
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Use the whole field at home at San Francisco's ballport,

616
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: at all.

617
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Speaker 3: Those ballparks on the left coast because they're big. They're

618
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: not small. I mean La is pretty big, you know,

619
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: even San Diego, So San Diego could be tough to

620
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: hit the ball out of the ballpark. So I mean

621
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Speaker 3: you need guys who can hit, and he can hit,

622
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Speaker 3: and he can hit for power. I mean, they haven't

623
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: had a got thirty home run guy? And what how

624
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: long since Barry Bonds? Broh, they haven't had a thirty

625
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: home run guy since Barry Bonds. Think about that for

626
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: a second. That's insane. But this guy's got pop and

627
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: he can hit and wherever he plays, whether it's DH first,

628
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: I guaran te you this. They're going to have a

629
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: conversation with the guy and they're gonna talk to him

630
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: about what he wants to do and where they're gonna

631
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: play him and all this stuff. I know, Chapman's on

632
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: the third on the il right now. He might play

633
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: a little third base in the beginning. He might not,

634
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: But I'm sure they'll have a conversation with the man,

635
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: which he deserves and deserved before things happen, so that

636
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: they know exactly where he stands, and he knows exactly

637
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: where he stands.

638
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I could see him learning to play first base and

639
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: playing some first base over there almost like, well, I'll

640
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: do it for you because you guys show a respect.

641
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: You just you just didn't yank the rugout from under

642
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: me like they did in Boston.

643
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell me what I'm gonna do after I'm an

644
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: iconic player there and you sign me to a like

645
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: a you know, ten year, twelve year deal, right right.

646
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: They didn't handle it. They didn't handle it well.

647
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no. It makes me wonder if the you know,

648
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: you think about the Phillies and what a shock or

649
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: that trade was on Sunday night, and you go, oh, man,

650
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Speaker 2: I wonder if the Phillies could pull off something similar

651
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: get a guy that you're not even thinking about getting

652
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: before the July thirty first trade deadline. Is there a

653
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: player out there you know that would just absolutely floor everybody?

654
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: Because I think most of the guys we've been talking

655
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: about over the past several weeks have been more along

656
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: the you know, potential closers, which they need, they need

657
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: some of those guys, you know, Pete Fairbanks, you know,

658
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: probably not you know, maybe roaldis Chapman. If the Red

659
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: Sox fall out, they sell you know, Kenley Janssen, you know,

660
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: somebody like that, just some back end bullpen piece. Yeah,

661
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Ryan Helsley probably not going to

662
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: get the Cardinals.

663
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: You know who's pitching. This took us off right now

664
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: as the Stevus.

665
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: He wanted to come back, but I know, I'm a

666
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: multi year deal.

667
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: You never know, and in case, he's probably still in

668
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: it sort of, and I think that they're you know,

669
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: I haven't looked at the standings as of late where

670
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: that central is going on. But hey, man, do you

671
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Speaker 3: never know?

672
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know, Yeah, you never but I mean,

673
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: you know, those are kind of the expecting names. I

674
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: was just thinking, like, man, is there is there like

675
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: a you talk about offensive for the random guy? Yeah,

676
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: randoh guy, big bat guy that would just Philly would

677
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: just go crazy about holy crap. They I don't know

678
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: if that guy's out there this year. You know, everybody

679
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: kind of you know, everybody always talks about Mike Trout

680
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: and you know, could the Phillies get Mike Trout back?

681
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember a couple of years ago

682
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: I asked about him, maybe even a year ago. I

683
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: was like, the guy has always hurt and he is

684
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: he is always again, that's he's hurt again, and he's

685
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Speaker 2: back in the lineup. Now he's dhing. He's back in

686
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: the lineup. Now he's dhing. And uh, I think he

687
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: went out the in the past week. He went out

688
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: and just shags some balls in the outfield and then

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: knee was a little bit sore. So you know, Ron

690
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Washington the other day last week, she said, you know,

691
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Speaker 2: if if Mike says he wants to DH through the

692
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Speaker 2: All Star break, he's going to DH through the All

693
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Speaker 2: Star break. And then after the All Star break, if

694
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Speaker 2: he says he wants to DH the rest of the season,

695
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: he's going to DH the rest of the season. We're

696
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: not going to put him in harm's ways.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense that it just makes sense just to

698
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: sit him down and let him just d H and

699
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Speaker 3: hit and hopefully stays on the field. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: what I would do with him, and then maybe becomes

701
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: a more tradable commodity for the Angels right right right,

702
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe becomes a more tradable commodity.

703
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: I have to say that. Uh. You know, people keep

704
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: talking about the center fielder in Chicago, what's his name,

705
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Robert Robert I mean, the dudes had horrendous seasons. He's

706
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: hurt and he doesn't play well. I mean, why would

707
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: you want to play? Why would you want a player

708
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: that stinks right He stinks right now? Why would you

709
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: want to play just because he's Louise Robert because he

710
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: has a nice name. I don't get it.

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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: He's he had a good he had a few good

712
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: years a few years ago, but he hasn't been very

713
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: good the last couple of years.

714
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: So I don't care whether it's a good team. Oh

715
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: maybe get rejuvenated. You know, on a good team, dude,

716
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 3: you got to prove it to me. I don't care

717
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: whether you're a good player on a good team or

718
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: bad team. You got to prove it every day, and

719
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: especially here in Philadelphia, things go shit south.

720
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: I Doe, Yeah, I do agree with the whole, you know,

721
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: get get rejuvenated type of thing. You know, you go

722
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: from a really awful, awful team where you have no

723
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: hope of winning, but you know, his numbers have gone

724
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: so far south. I'm like, you know, damn play a

725
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: little bit better. I remember that was kind of the

726
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: case with roy Oswalt in twenty ten, Rubin when he

727
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: got him he was. He wasn't pitching his great but

728
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: he was pitching well enough where you're like, this guy

729
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: can help us win.

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00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: He's still a good he's still good stuff. And you know,

731
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: he just wasn't nearly as invested because the team wasn't invested.

732
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: I understand that. But then he pitched his ass off

733
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: for us. He was phenomenal. And people talk about Cliff Lee,

734
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: but what about his numbers when he came over? Oh

735
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: he was insane.

736
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had an era air under two and twenty

737
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: ten you guys brought him over, and so yeah, it's

738
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: not like ros Well had a six c r A.

739
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: And then he came to Philly. His ERA was in

740
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: the mid threes when you guys brought him over in

741
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: twenty ten. So a couple more things guys want to

742
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: mention this. Andrew Painter on Sunday with Trip in Triple A.

743
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: Five scoreless innings, one hit, two walk, six strikeouts. Noteworthy

744
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: for a couple of reasons. One is that was his

745
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: first time pitching on regular rest. He pitched Tuesday in

746
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: Triple A, got hit around a little bit. He really

747
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: kind of struggled in his last two starts, but then

748
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: had a real nice start on Sunday for the Iron Pigs.

749
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Speaker 2: So he's three and two four three five e ra

750
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: I believe in his last or maybe that was before that.

751
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: Seven starts and then this week the Phillies are in

752
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Miami to play the Marlins Monday. I want to give

753
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: a go over these pitching matchups real quick Monday, six

754
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: forty start Mick abele versus Sandy Algantra. How was that

755
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: for pronunciations?

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: He's had a contra a tough year, but he might

757
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: be getting it together. Two good ones coming off to.

758
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: Not pitch well against the Phillies, which I hope he continues.

759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Right, Actually he pitches well against the Phillies, he just

760
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: always loses two to one.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Well, the last time he pitched

762
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: a Phillies in the pitch that he was.

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Speaker 1: Coming back with that new elbow. I mean, he's starting

764
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: to get it together, and I still think I still think,

765
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, his he might have two great months later

766
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: on this season and somebody might get a nice says.

767
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: Going to get a good one. That's like that's a

768
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: roy O as Welt type.

769
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Gune with you know control everybody was freaking out about,

770
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: you know he's got it.

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00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: He's got another year. I think, other one year, I

772
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: think yeah.

773
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Speaker 2: He Sandy is three and seven with a seven to

774
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: one four era. Jim to your point, you look at

775
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: those numbers, you go, oh my gosh, he still stinks.

776
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's not back from the Tommy John surgery.

777
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: But in his last two starts one point five zero

778
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: arra striking out ten, walking to and and ten innings.

779
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: So he's kind of getting it turned around. So Monday, Monday,

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00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be interesting for that reason. What kind

781
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: of version of him are you gonna get? Former Cy

782
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Young winner? And then Mick Abel, uh, coming off his

783
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: first bad start in the Big league. Is he going

784
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 2: to rebound? Is he gonna you know, is he gonna

785
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: walk some guys? You know what kind of version of

786
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: Mick Gabel you're gonna get. So that's a very interesting

787
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: matchup on Monday night. Tuesday Night, Jesus Lozardo coming off

788
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: that real nice start. If you didn't listen to the

789
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Lozardo interview with US on Friday, to make sure you

790
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: go check that out. He's pitching against Cal Quantrill Wednesday night,

791
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez versus TBD I haven't seen the Marlins post.

792
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: Who's gonna pitch on Wednesday night? And then Thursday night

793
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez versus Edward Cabrera.

794
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: So really interesting able discussion because if Abel does not

795
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: and always this is this is me, this is where

796
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: I sort of gauge young players. And I think he's

797
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: really poised. He's looked poised, he's looked under control. Uh

798
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: as far as his motions, emotions are a very serious kid.

799
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: If he can't bound back and be consistent, how long

800
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: does he pitch before the discussion about Andrew Painter flipping

801
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: in instead of him and then flipping him out. I

802
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: mean that's a possibility because it's a performance based game.

803
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: And if Andrew Painter is ready physically and he get

804
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: into July or closer to July when he's will you know,

805
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 3: now he's pitching on five days rest and now he's

806
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 3: getting ready to roll. If he gets on a roll,

807
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: do they flip him for Mick Abel? And you know,

808
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: obviously we don't have Nola here. He's not coming back

809
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: for at least till August.

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00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: I think, well, they've said they want to give Painters

811
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: a little breather at the All Star break, but look,

812
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: it's getting closer, and it's getting closer for Crawford as well.

813
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: You know you got it, like you said, performance based

814
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: you perform, you will stay out there. But all of

815
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, Andrew Painter is going to be nipping at

816
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: people's toes here and justin Crawford as well.

817
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will be back later this week. Talk

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Speaker 2: to you guys later.

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