WEBVTT - BA Q&A: De-Riskify Your Choices

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it rhymes the regular way you pronounce it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we love to get your questions. What have we

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<v Speaker 2>got in the mail bag today?

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff Well, I someone slim into my personal DMS as

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<v Speaker 1>a Budjanista, which I welcome you, but ideally signed to

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<v Speaker 1>to BA the bisson DM. So Liz asked a question.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, Hey, girl, girls, what are your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>one buying a property with a domestic partner? What are

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<v Speaker 1>the legal implication.

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<v Speaker 2>Domestic partner? So the term domestic partner to me, my

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<v Speaker 2>first question is like does it vary by state what

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<v Speaker 2>rights you may have as a domestic partner. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>my first question or my first thing is I would

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<v Speaker 2>check with your state what rights does that domestic partner

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<v Speaker 2>have in terms of if the relationship goes sideways to

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<v Speaker 2>whatever property you guys obtain, you know, during your relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're an official domestic partnership, which used to

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<v Speaker 2>be a thing, especially for same sex couples, that used

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<v Speaker 2>to be the only way you could be partnered, you

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<v Speaker 2>know legally. Now gay marriage is legal. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my first question. What else should they consider it? TIF?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, like you should consider obviously you want to consider

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<v Speaker 1>like your finances like child how like what's the down payment? Looking?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how we pay the mortgage? You want to flush

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<v Speaker 1>out all these things ahead of time, like what is

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's credit score? What happens if somebody can't afford their payment?

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<v Speaker 1>How much debt do you both like both feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>taking out? Like to me, those are probably the things

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably already thinking about. But even still, like because

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<v Speaker 1>you're unmarried, you might have to apply for the mortgage separately,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like because they're it depends on your state.

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<v Speaker 1>Your state might have something where you can apply as

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<v Speaker 1>a domestic partner. But like so I'll give you example.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Darrell and I were married when we we bought

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<v Speaker 1>the house that Terrell has now since brought for me,

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<v Speaker 1>But because we brought it from the city, they said

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<v Speaker 1>only one of us for whatever reason, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>tax lean or tax deed, only one of us could

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<v Speaker 1>be on the deed, like could purchase the property. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't allow two people, which was weird even though we

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<v Speaker 1>were married. And as a result of us doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to add myself to the d later and

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<v Speaker 1>then when he passed away, it was a struggle like

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<v Speaker 1>it is my property, you know, along with alyssa. But

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<v Speaker 1>still you know, so that's something too, like okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>if you're asking about the legal part, like if one

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<v Speaker 1>person has to apply, how are you going to choose ownership?

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably the most important there are. There are different

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<v Speaker 1>types of ownership options for unmarried couple, like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>looking it up real quick. One is called joint tenancy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's where there's multiple owners and they own

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<v Speaker 1>they own an equal will share in the home, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it just means they all have equal rights to

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<v Speaker 1>the property and there's right to survivorship. So that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if one owner passes away, their home is transferred to

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<v Speaker 1>the other. So joint tenancy is one. There's tenancy in common.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second one. This is when each person

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the type of ownership where each person

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<v Speaker 1>on the deed owns a specific percentage of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>And so say for example, you and your your domestic partner,

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<v Speaker 1>you put down more money than them, and you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like, well, I put that like seventy percent,

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to own seventy percent of the home

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm paying seventy percent of the mortgage. So with tenancy,

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<v Speaker 1>a common you can say you own thirty percent, I

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<v Speaker 1>own seventy percent, but then too they can still this.

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<v Speaker 1>This ownership is not automatically transferred if somebody passes away,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just have to be mindful of that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what will happen to your partner if something happens to you?

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<v Speaker 1>And go ahead real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>So where would you like what professional would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>A real estate attorney? You would draft up like an

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<v Speaker 2>ownership agreement? Because I remember I researched this for an

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<v Speaker 2>article I wrote like probably a decade ago for y'allhoo finance,

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<v Speaker 2>for how to buy a house with friends, because my

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<v Speaker 2>friends and I were seriously we were so cute and

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about buying a home all together. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be friends forever.

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<v Speaker 1>What are their names?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, just kidding and anyway, so I wrote it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was fascinating, but like I think at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, get with a real estate attorney

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<v Speaker 2>and at least draft up like a legal document so

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys have everything written now, same as you

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<v Speaker 2>and I sort of as a partnership, we wrote we

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<v Speaker 2>wrote up our ownership agreement. We are a fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty partners here's what happens if so and so wants

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<v Speaker 2>to leave, et cetera. But something similar for a domestic

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<v Speaker 2>partnership as well.

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<v Speaker 1>My absolutely, and especially if you're going to choose something

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<v Speaker 1>like one of these ones and the last one is

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<v Speaker 1>just sole ownership with one person owns and then but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that's not as ideal because it's like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not on the deed, but if you're not helping to

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<v Speaker 1>pay expenses, maybe they're just kind of like living with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But to Mandy's point, it's so important to sign. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called a cohabitation agreement property agreement. Yeah, like what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do we're living together, and it just you want

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<v Speaker 1>to think about everything, like you want to play out

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<v Speaker 1>the scenarios, like what happens if you pass away, how

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<v Speaker 1>will you sell it? If you decide to sell, who's

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<v Speaker 1>paying the mortgage, who's responsible for what? Can you rent

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<v Speaker 1>out your room? You want to think about all these

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<v Speaker 1>things and you sit down with an attorney to create

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<v Speaker 1>this agreement. And my one of my attorneys, orensea Ouga,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to you, hey, are he listens?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was doing my partnership agreement with

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<v Speaker 1>my partner, at the time. My business partner Jabrill, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it is ideal to create these partnerships when

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<v Speaker 1>things are great, because one day, one day they might

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<v Speaker 1>not be. And when they're not, you know, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very difficult to find like a common ground

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna have to do what the agreement said,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you want to dig into the nitty gritty

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<v Speaker 1>of it all if you decide to do that that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if something does happen you break up, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the agreement says I take half. You can pull out

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<v Speaker 1>the equity and give me half. You can sell whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like. Because sometimes like even in business, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like if we break up, you have to sell the company.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be in your agreement, but you want to

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<v Speaker 1>agree to that ahead of time, so you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little more complicated, but it's not impossible. People aren't

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, but you want to make sure you do

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that you think of. Unfortunately, if

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<v Speaker 1>something doesn't work out, this is what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you're married, but would you ever consider like purchasing,

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<v Speaker 1>like could you see yourself personally home with like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it's someone I wasn't. Yeah, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>domestic partnership is basically like we are a partner, like

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<v Speaker 2>marriage is, I don't know, more biblical whatever. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's similar in terms of the commitment to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely, and I think that, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a relative of mine who built a house and

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, in their late twenties early thirties, and

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<v Speaker 2>had a girlfriend, and together they decided that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't going to be put on the mortgage. He

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<v Speaker 2>did that himself. There was a big disparity in income,

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<v Speaker 2>and also the way that he was paying for it

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<v Speaker 2>was just kind of like messy, and they were all

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<v Speaker 2>it took a long time to build the house, so

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship was also like maturing. You know. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>talking about marriage yet or things like that, but they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to live together. So for now, she's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be listed on the mortgage, even though she's paying

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<v Speaker 2>effectively rent paying part of the mortgage. However, they are discussing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going to keep tabs of how much

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<v Speaker 2>she's putting in and then determine some sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>ownership stake that she'll have and then that'll you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can do that later. And I think for her

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<v Speaker 2>own protection, especially if there's like an income disparity, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's only fair. You know, she's contributing and she's

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<v Speaker 2>your partners, so they should. I think, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>an income disparity, just don't be afraid to advocate for

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and research what your options are so that if

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<v Speaker 2>something goes sideways, you're not out in the cold with

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to show for what you've invested or what you've

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<v Speaker 2>poured into making that home a home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that sounds like the tendency in common, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if one purchase and praise more, it's like you can

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<v Speaker 1>literally say, okay, according to this, you know, twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the home is yours. Yeah, exactly. A results if

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<v Speaker 1>we break up, you know, there's two options. We can

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<v Speaker 1>sell and give you twenty percent, or I can just

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<v Speaker 1>pull on equity and give you twenty percent. You know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly. We'll find out. I'm ready to buy another

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<v Speaker 2>property's care, but I'm emotionally tied to this one. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I want to sell it or just

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<v Speaker 2>front it out. I think this would be a great

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<v Speaker 2>rental property.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your house is great.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. But I'm itching. My husband's itching for

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<v Speaker 2>a rolex and I'm itching for a property. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>who wins.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have a talk about girl. I have gone

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<v Speaker 1>down the thing watch lane. You know me, I like

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<v Speaker 1>some random like learnings, you know, okay, yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I just watched like random YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>like documentaries about random things like hmm, the effects of

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<v Speaker 1>plastic surgery on the healthcare. You know, like literally, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just say say, lately, there's like I didn't really understand

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<v Speaker 1>watch culture for men because the last thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>just wore the deep down rabbit hole about was luxury

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<v Speaker 1>handbags for like, you know, women, and like you know

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<v Speaker 1>how Burkin bags could be like fifty thousand miles sixty

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<v Speaker 1>some crazy amount, ten thousand whatever, and so just learning

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<v Speaker 1>about that and I was like wow, And even how

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<v Speaker 1>Ermaz who makes burk and bags and Kellyes and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that they have their marketing is top tier.

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<v Speaker 1>If I tell you, oh, child, that do you know

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<v Speaker 1>that in order to be offered to buy a bag

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<v Speaker 1>for many people, you have to pre buy other Chotskis

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<v Speaker 1>for thousands of dollars before they keep making even an

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<v Speaker 1>offer for a bag that might not even be exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. You might you might go to Urmas

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<v Speaker 1>and say I'm going to buy a scar for four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars and I'm to put my name down for like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now a new or Mess customer. And ideally, if

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<v Speaker 1>a if a black Burken bag with gold hardware comes

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<v Speaker 1>on the market, I'd love to be offered. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what else did you buy? You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>so like a million of my niece like whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>do havething nice for her, she go, that's nice and

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<v Speaker 1>what else? And so her message like that, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I bought a scarf and what else? And I

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<v Speaker 1>bought a card holder and what else? And I bought so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you rack up your bills and then they're like, Mandy, lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>you booboo. Your bad came in. You're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>my black Burken with the gold hardware. No, you're Black

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<v Speaker 1>Burken with the palladium hardware. You're like close enough here,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand dollars. Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Sounds like how Enrique described the Rolex business. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the gid in line to get the honor. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why the secondhand market is so popping, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I was like so I didn't know because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how silly. And then I've gone down

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole of like the luxury watches, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same. I said, you know these men, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a luxury handbag girl, but these men will

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<v Speaker 1>all talk about you women wasting your money on luxury handbags.

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<v Speaker 1>Look how they got you. And the watch market is

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<v Speaker 1>literally the same. You have to buy this, this and this,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you get offered and maybe it's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how much power like it's the same as

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<v Speaker 1>the bag thousands, Like oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Down payment on a house, that's what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>we gonna see who wins because the lady, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>can I stretch out in that Can I tuck myself

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<v Speaker 2>into that well? That put a roof over my children's head?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 2>For me and my my dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe said that's what we gonna see who wins. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like how long before I win? How long before

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<v Speaker 1>we're both gonna win? He's gonna get the Rolex I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the next house and an income property.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a matter of like who's gonna get it first.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, That's all. What I've said

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<v Speaker 2>so far is that I've I've manipulated this situation so

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<v Speaker 2>that I've got him thinking anytime that we don't order

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<v Speaker 2>out for dinner, he can put fifty bucks into his

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<v Speaker 2>rolex savings account, which is helping me because homeboy needs

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<v Speaker 2>to cook more and I'm sick of ordering out all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. It's expensive, like seventy you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>tipping culture anyway, So I've got him saving more.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look at that. See you are use a real wife, girl, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes toward the rolex were a downpat you.

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<v Speaker 1>Fell it, my mama. You know you can tell you've

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<v Speaker 1>been married for a while because like at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're a new wife, you just be

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<v Speaker 1>fussing like when you're old gee wife, You're like, how

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<v Speaker 1>about this? How about every time girl look at me

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<v Speaker 1>and be wifing it down.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Wow, she really values what I value and

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<v Speaker 2>she really respects my watch lug.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, chah, okay, just put that fifty hours up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can put whatever name you want on that

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<v Speaker 2>ally savings account. Baby, money is money. Okay, to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break in dow the next question. Okay, I was

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<v Speaker 2>quite a tangent. I love it though. All right, BF

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<v Speaker 2>will be right back with another one of your juicy questions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>BA family are back with our second incredible question from

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<v Speaker 2>one of our listeners. Actually a Mandy moneymaker who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to remain anonymous, but slid into my email. So I

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<v Speaker 2>got you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then moneymaker. Let's call her.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, let's just you always put me on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's call her No, okay, because I'm like, let's her names?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was looking at right, No, but guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Too obvious girl like. Let her name is Tippy. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go her tip like girl out her boss. It's you ful,

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<v Speaker 1>so Emani come that part. I'm af lose her whole job.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's call her marabel Ooh Marabelle.

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<v Speaker 2>A little yeah, it's a little incanto action here, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Marrabelle says Mandy. Thank you for your awesome scripts that

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<v Speaker 2>have been I think use as a guideline to ask

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<v Speaker 2>for a raise. Unfortunately, I received word from the manager

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<v Speaker 2>today that my request has been denied. Let me give

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<v Speaker 2>you a little backstory. I'm a licensed practical nurse with

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<v Speaker 2>a total medical professional background of over twenty years. I

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<v Speaker 2>climb the educational ladder and work the subsequent jobs on

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<v Speaker 2>the way up. I work in Virginia and I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty to forty five minutes away from the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Beach. I'm forty eight years old, which puts me

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<v Speaker 2>closer to my retirement years, and my one and only

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<v Speaker 2>child just turned twenty one two weeks ago and is

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<v Speaker 2>no longer at home. So my current career goal is

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<v Speaker 2>to finish my bachelor's in Health science degree, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want to do with it just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the degree will allow me to stay in

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<v Speaker 2>the medical field, but not necessarily tied down to just nursing.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a strong desire to go into travel nursing,

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<v Speaker 2>which will definitely increase my earnings potential. Something's holding me back,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't bring myself to quit the job I

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<v Speaker 2>have and leave home. I've been with the company for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. I enjoyed my job just seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the time. Stability is very important to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have regrets thinking I should have

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<v Speaker 2>stayed where I was at. As you can see, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mention any other family. Both my parents have passed

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<v Speaker 2>away and I'm divorced. This sounds like a really good

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<v Speaker 2>email for brand ambition, Q and A. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mind if you want to share it there, but keep

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<v Speaker 2>me anonymous. I got you, Mariveelle, Okay, But I was

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated by this question one because the trohole travel nursing

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<v Speaker 2>thing became so lucrative. Maybe it always has been lucrative,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially during the pandemic, A lot of medical lot

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<v Speaker 2>of nurses actually got so burned out by the just

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<v Speaker 2>the work environment during the pandemic, and travel nursing became

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<v Speaker 2>this way out, like I can still do what I

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<v Speaker 2>am trained to do. But if you have a flexible

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<v Speaker 2>enough lifestyle, like you don't have, like this person, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>be the perfect candidate. You don't have a child at

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<v Speaker 2>home that you're caring for, no spouse, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>get up and move excuse me, and go wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>may be needed as a travel nurse. And these hospitals

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<v Speaker 2>pay big money to have not just traveling nurses. One

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<v Speaker 2>of my Mandy money makers is a general surgeon. She's

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<v Speaker 2>making almost four hundred thousand dollars a year as a

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<v Speaker 2>general surgeon in the South, and she tells me that

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<v Speaker 2>there are she is on a team where there's traveling surgeons,

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<v Speaker 2>like and they pay way more what for the traveling surgeons.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her issue. She's like, I'm here, I'm being loyal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting paid peanuts compared to these traveling surgeons who

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<v Speaker 2>you're more than happy to pay for like a six

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<v Speaker 2>month contract to come in and swoop in and swoop out. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So I get what she's saying about the like earnings

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<v Speaker 2>potential of you know, becoming a traveling nurse and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that she just asked for a raise using my

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<v Speaker 2>negotiation scripts, but you know, got the request was denied.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of this is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>I like to push people just to ask the question,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're someone who's in a nine to five

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, man, you know, if I just keep

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I just stay here, I'll get that raise,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get this, and that if you ask, you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot sooner than just waiting for them to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell you or not tell you and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can make it like an informed decision. So they've

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<v Speaker 2>told you, with all your experience, twenty years in the business,

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<v Speaker 2>with the ten years that you've given them, that your

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<v Speaker 2>loyalty is not worth more to them than what they're

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<v Speaker 2>paying you right now, Like they've told you that now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like you've got the information that you

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<v Speaker 2>have that should make you feel a little bit freer

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<v Speaker 2>to definitely make a move. You know, you enjoy your

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<v Speaker 2>job seventy five percent of the time is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's like how much I think for

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<v Speaker 2>a regular you know, working in nine to five, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how many of you can say you enjoy your job

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<v Speaker 2>three fourths of the times? That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about the stability that you're craving And

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<v Speaker 2>how can you create that sense of stability in your

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<v Speaker 2>new chapter? You know, whether it's at a traveling nurse

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<v Speaker 2>or somewhere else, you have to think of yourself as

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<v Speaker 2>your own job stability, Like no one can take away

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<v Speaker 2>your twenty years of experience. No one can take away

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you these nurses and these medical professionals,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all continue to educate yourselves forever. Y'all really like school,

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<v Speaker 2>and y'all go back for more degrees, and they can't

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<v Speaker 2>take that education away from you either. And there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot that you could do with those skills. So even

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to leave this place, you know, ten

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<v Speaker 2>years in and try travel nursing for a year to

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<v Speaker 2>see how it is, if you decide that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, which you are more than like, you're more

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay for you to pivot into something new and

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<v Speaker 2>decide you don't like it. You know, if you decide like,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't take away that work experience, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>such applicable skills to you could go to any hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, any any you know, health care facility, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>consult or you know, do nursing in some other way,

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<v Speaker 2>or teach or whatever it may be. You have so

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<v Speaker 2>many skills, and that, for me is what is creating

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<v Speaker 2>stability for you, Not so much just the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you're employed, you know right now, and you've got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know sort of where you're going to go each

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<v Speaker 2>day for work. And I feel like at forty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>like this this is how I kind of hope I

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<v Speaker 2>can be once. I mean, I'm not going to stop

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<v Speaker 2>being like flexible and trying new things now that I

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<v Speaker 2>have young children. But I also feel like you did

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your kids out the house and it's just you yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and you so like, way, yeah, why not take a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a risk right now? The only person

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<v Speaker 2>who you seem to be, you know, needing to convince

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<v Speaker 2>as yourself that you can do that. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for permission, we have our magic permission. Wand yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I whipped it, can I just

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somebody who sometimes feels very risk adverse. Let's deriskify

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that you're saying. One, you are literally in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most in demand professions, like no demand.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean back in the day. My mother was a

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<v Speaker 1>nurse for many years. She retired a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But they back in the day, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you notice made it, they used to literally fly to

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaica to try to recruit women, to come over Africa

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<v Speaker 1>to recruit women because nursing has been in demand for

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<v Speaker 1>so long and especially during COVID and especially post COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a profession with the job security is

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<v Speaker 1>baked into the foolishness of this country just because of

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<v Speaker 1>all that we know for real, because sometimes like I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, it's like it sounds good, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>then for me, I'm like, how do I derisk afy

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<v Speaker 1>my fear? It's like, one, let's be real, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a profession. We're girl. I can throw a rock and

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<v Speaker 1>hit a hospital that's like yes, please, please please, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say tell yourself that too. I would talk to

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<v Speaker 1>other nurses so I can get real clear on like

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<v Speaker 1>it's real cute out here, Like how cute? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>much cute? Like real cute cute? How Like how quickly

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<v Speaker 1>were you able to get cute about you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? So getting a better understand of like what

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<v Speaker 1>does the money really look like how quickly you can

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<v Speaker 1>make it with people who are in your position, who

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<v Speaker 1>have your level of education, who have your level of experience,

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<v Speaker 1>like gather as much details as possible so you can

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<v Speaker 1>then feel more comfortable Like, Okay, Saratanya, Tiffany Mandy are

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<v Speaker 1>similar to me, and they're actually making more than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to make this connection for me to this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, agency, I can pretty start much start

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<v Speaker 1>right away, worst case scenario, because I'm a nurse. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be real, I know I can go someplace else and

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<v Speaker 1>work someplace else, even though I'm what I'm saying really

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm comfortable here. But the truth is I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a safe position just by nature of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>industry that I'm in. You know, and then once you

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<v Speaker 1>get those numbers, start dreaming about like what that additional

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<v Speaker 1>income can do for you, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can you go on more vacations? You know, will you

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<v Speaker 1>be able to help your kid not have if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in school? You know, I don't know, because they're twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one now, so maybe they've graduated. Like what would that

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<v Speaker 1>money do? Like dreamscape a little. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, de risk ify and then dreamscape. But what

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<v Speaker 1>that extra money can do for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Risk ify?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because some as I need that. I'm just like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm skined. I'm scared. I'm scared scined. Like I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you scared of? I'm scared of. My team

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna say, if you listen to our episode on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to this, I'm making a transition in the Budgetista

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<v Speaker 1>to really become a business that creates insights for companies

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<v Speaker 1>that want to speak to black women, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared. I'm scared. What are you scared about? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>scared that my team is gonna leave and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be mad at me. Da da da. I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But then I looked at my team and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, everybody here is so awesome, and

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<v Speaker 1>I de riskified by talking myself through it, pulling them

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<v Speaker 1>aside individually, telling them as a group, and everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>like yes, girl. I'm like, oh, what else are you

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<v Speaker 1>scared about, Tiffany, about making a transition? What if you

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<v Speaker 1>make enough money? I started to talk to people in

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<v Speaker 1>corporate to say, would you be interested in in insights

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<v Speaker 1>like this. I have already gotten like two or three

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<v Speaker 1>people who were like tentatively put me down as a client.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, and so I'm de risk affying

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm actually really risk adverse. People think that I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out here leaping now, girl, And then as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of that, now I could take the leap. There's

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<v Speaker 1>still a leap to be taken, but I have minimized

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<v Speaker 1>the risk as much as possible before doing so, so

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, what is it. Maddie Bell, Maddie Bell, girl, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>ring that bell, Maddie Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's like put a name to the fear

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<v Speaker 2>and like actually look at the facts and let the

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<v Speaker 2>facts fight the fear. Like, you know, if you're exactly

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<v Speaker 2>like what you said, if you're worried about how much

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<v Speaker 2>money can I make? I don't know, find some answers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so you can put together a real plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like the time freedom if you

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<v Speaker 2>controlled your schedule, and it reminded me immediately, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think the woman who helped me deliver my son, Remy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was a traveling nurse. She was retiring age,

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<v Speaker 2>retirement age. She was so sweet. I think her name

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<v Speaker 2>was Bonnie, And I just got lucky because one day

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<v Speaker 2>a month she showed up for that hospital. She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm contracted to come here one day a month. And

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<v Speaker 2>she basically left travel like for the flexibility, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they bring her back just as a contractor, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is basically a traveling nurse exactly. So think about

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<v Speaker 2>what if you leave, leave because they show you that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not you're not worth more, whether it's you get

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<v Speaker 2>a competing offer somewhere else to prove that you're worth more,

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<v Speaker 2>and you leave, you become a traveling nurse, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, we want you back. And at this time

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<v Speaker 2>you feel more confident about traveling and doing freelance, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, okay, I'll come back for three days a month,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you can pay me triple what you

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<v Speaker 2>were paying me before hourly. But Bonnie was just living

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<v Speaker 2>her best life. She's like, yeah, I come when I

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I go off to the you know, the countryside,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, me and my husband have a

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<v Speaker 2>great little quiet life, so yeah, I love it. What

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<v Speaker 2>Tip said about g risk of fying and also dreamscaping

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<v Speaker 2>and imagining not what you'd be losing but what you

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<v Speaker 2>could be gaining. Yes, by starting a new chapter, love

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<v Speaker 2>that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>and your cousin, your financial advisor, but we are your

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<v Speaker 1>fabe financial brown girls. Okay, we know a little something

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<v Speaker 1>one or two, but always take our advice with the

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<v Speaker 1>small screen assault and lead into the people that you

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<v Speaker 1>pay for. The final say, but until next week. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I know that was a bar that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna quickly forget.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, they're like, but you just answered two questions that

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<v Speaker 2>came to Mandy's email into your DM, So what are

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<v Speaker 2>you really telling us? Okay, rewarded?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all next week. We'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>By