1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,199 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcast host and we got some great stories 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: I lost control on a first date and snapped at 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: her family. 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: Oh snap, why are you meeting her family on the 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: first date. 9 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: I joined a dating site to try and get more dates. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: That was my only intent. I have been working too 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: much for two years at my new job. I just 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: wanted to have more fun. By the way, this comes 13 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: from throw A four three five two zero one five 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: and if you want to spit your own stories, go 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: to our slash showka Storytime suppered it. Ooh, I got 16 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: an email and set up a date with this girl. 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: It's my fifth date from the site and it's been fun. 18 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: But this one girl was like one of those loved 19 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: first sight moments. When we met at a restaurant, I 20 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: saw her. She was perfect. I tried to play it cool, 21 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: but I felt like I could just cut ties with 22 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: all the girls I've dated and commit to her physically. 23 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: She was everything I could ever ask for and exactly 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: my type. Her personality seemed like a ten out of 25 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: ten about thirty minutes into sitting down, I even order 26 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: because we were just talking. The chemistry was as good 27 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: as it was with my first love when I was thirteen. 28 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: It was perfect, Sparks were flying. I thought I was 29 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: done and ready to commit right there, But then she 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: tells me to forget about ordering food, that we should 31 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: go somewhere else. She has an idea. She wouldn't say much, 32 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: and I like surprises, so I didn't ask. We jumped 33 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: in my car and drove to a restaurant about twenty 34 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: minutes away, kind of out of town. It was halfway 35 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: up a mountain near a ski resort. I'm familiar with 36 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: the area, so no big deal. We walk in and 37 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: her family is celebrating her aunt's birthday. 38 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm viscerally uncomfortable at the thought of doing this on 39 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: the first he interaction. 40 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: I hate this, he hate this? What? There were only 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: family members about forty people. She introduces me, and everybody 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: was happy to meet me, really nice. Everyone also knew 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: she was out on a first date. They were asking 44 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: her stuff like is this the guy? Is this your date? 45 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Is this the one? Suddenly I wasn't so cool and relaxed. 46 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: I felt heavy pressure to be on my best behavior. 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: High pressure to the third degree, but everybody was nice, 48 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: so that helped. We sat down and I started being 49 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: questioned by her older sister, her aunt, and another lady 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: whose relation to my date. 51 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 3: I forgot, literally first date, and you're being interrogated by 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: extended family members who you don't even know how they're related. 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: And also not even talking to your date. Yeah, you're 54 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: being like the whole point of her first date is 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: getting to know someone. You're not even talking to your date. 56 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: I mean, let me let my family get to know 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: you first. 58 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Her mom started kind of defending me, telling them to 59 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: back off and let me eat, but the interrogating continued. 60 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: After who knows how long, they turned to my date 61 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: and jokingly said, we approve. That's when I was finally 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: able to get my bearings. I was totally off balanced 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: all night, just tense. I was afraid the back of 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: my shirt would get that big wet spot because I 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: could feel sweat on my back. Then her sister brought 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: her cute little girl and let me hold her. She 67 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: and my date started to take pictures of me holding her, 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: and then somebody else's baby boy as well. I started 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: to feel like the tone of it all was that 70 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: we were a couple. I kind of felt like I 71 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: was married to her and these nice people were my 72 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: in laws. 73 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Okay, well now that sounds more like a you problem, buddy, 74 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Like let's use our brains here. Yeah, run away with 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: a fairy tale. 76 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: First well, I think he's saying it like it felt 77 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: like they were treating him like this, and he was like, whoa, 78 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: we just had a first day. 79 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: It is weird to have to be approved by the 80 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: entire extended family on. 81 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: The first well at least yeah, because I feel like 82 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: some cultures will do this for you, you know, the 83 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: whole family. Obviously you have an arranged marriages and stuff. 84 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: But in this case, OPI had no idea that this 85 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: was happening and was just told, Hey, we're gonna go 86 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: to this place, and he was like, okay, shows up. 87 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Everyone kind of was like, hey, you're on a day 88 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: and he's like what. Keep in mind her car is 89 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: still at the other restaurant down the hill. Then her 90 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: dad suddenly asks me jokingly what my intentions with his 91 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: daughter are. I can't remember exactly how he phrased the question. 92 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: Everyone at the table, about half the people there looked 93 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: at me. I guess I was exhausted from all the 94 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: questioning by multiple people multiple times, and the pressure of 95 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: it all because I kind of lost it. He asked 96 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: the question. I looked across the table at her and 97 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: she told her dad to stop. Her dad smiles and 98 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: jokingly says he'd really like to hear my response. Her uncle, 99 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: I think, also said he'd like to know. Also jokingly, 100 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: I looked at my date and said, can I talk 101 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: to you alone for a minute, to which her dad 102 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: laughs loudly and says, oh, made him nervous. So now 103 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: everybody is laughing, and I guess it was all a 104 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: big joke. Then I said again, height and I talked 105 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: to you alone for a minute. I stood up kind of. 106 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: It was one of those long bench seats and I 107 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: couldn't push it back because other people were sitting on it. 108 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Then her sister, I think, says, oh, there are no 109 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: secrets in this family. Speak your mind. People laugh again, 110 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: and everyone starts making jokes. Then a man who married 111 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: into the family chimes in, saying he remembers being in 112 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: my place. He says, let me give you some advice. 113 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: The best thing to do right now is speak your 114 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: mind and be honest. Others join in echoing a sentiment. Jokingly, 115 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: I think, look at my date, and she says something like, 116 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: you can tell me anything here. We're all family. She 117 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: too seemed to be joking, but by then I had 118 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: started to lose my ability to tell when people were 119 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: joking and when they were serious. Then her dad says, wait, 120 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten an answer to my question. So finally 121 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: I speak directly to him and say I'd like to 122 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: discuss that with her first. But I regretfully laughed as 123 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: I said it. So her dad says, I asked you first, 124 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: I want to know. I turned to my date and 125 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: she says something like, go ahead, you can tell me. 126 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: I'm a big girl, I can handle it. So I 127 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: said okay, sat down and took a couple of breaths 128 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: while her dad quieted everybody down. I started with I 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: think I made a huge mistake. 130 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Oh. 131 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: It all spiraled down from there. I said harsh things 132 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: like how I felt like I was having a bad 133 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: dream where I was suddenly married. I questioned her intentions 134 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: in bringing me there. I said things like what were 135 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: you thinking? Yes, I liked you, but I just met you, 136 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: and right now I know your aunt, I pointed at 137 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: her better than I know you. I think she was humiliated, 138 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: but I could stop. The more I spoke, the worse 139 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: it got. Total tailspin. I said, I wanted to find 140 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: someone special, but didn't want to skip the first twenty 141 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: nine dates and jump straight to date thirty, which is 142 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: what had happened that night. Then people started interrupting, suggesting 143 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: we slow down and have a real first date. I 144 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: wasn't having it. I was out of control. I said, no, 145 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: it's too late for that. I feel robbed. I wanted 146 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: to meet this girl, get to know her, date her, 147 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: and maybe fall for her. But now it's like we're engaged. 148 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: Her whole family is here, and there are all these expectations. 149 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: We skip the getting to know each other and dating part. 150 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: I feel robbed, all right, buddy, Then I said yet 151 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: another thing I regret a little bit more. It's a 152 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: huge red flag that I asked for a minute alone 153 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: with you two to talk, and this is what I 154 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: got instead. I yaded, you're all great, a great family, 155 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: but the lack of certain boundaries is a huge red 156 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: flag for me. I would never let my relationship become 157 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: family business. 158 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Buddy, Relax, dude. 159 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: At this point, my dear interrupts me and says, okay, 160 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: so let's talk in private. Let's go outside and talk. 161 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I didn't give you that minute. Let's go 162 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: outside and talk privately. I'll give you all night. She 163 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: was visibly shaken, and I could tell tears were inevitable. 164 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: I stood up again and realized that I insulted all 165 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: of them, so I just walked out. I felt really 166 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: bad because they were all nice and had nothing but 167 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: the best intentions. They love her and were literally telling 168 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: me I was good enough, which should have been a compliment. 169 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I somehow took it the wrong way and spat in 170 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 2: their faces. I didn't even drink and edit. We walked 171 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: out and I let her have it again. She was 172 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: now sobbing uncontrollably. She apologized and pretty much begged for 173 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: us to start over. I told her I wasn't into 174 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: it and left her there. 175 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: Broh, relax, what are we doing. You're like, she's ten 176 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: out of ten, she's got the best personality. You're gonna 177 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: let one bad first date? Huge red thing for me 178 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: is Then we stepped outside and I let her have 179 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: it again. This situation's already difused. Now, buddy, you have 180 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: no excuse. I drove home and couldn't help. But wonder 181 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: if I overreacted. You did just a little bit a lot. 182 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm disagreeing with her. 183 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: I yeah, I think we're on different pages. 184 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm just great. 185 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: I love it this happens, but I'm like, I like 186 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: understand it. I couldn't sleep, and I woke up this 187 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: morning feeling like I probably did overact. Now I feel 188 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: like crap, but it's done. I can't undo it. Edit. 189 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Let me ask this more clearly. Should I call her 190 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: and apologize for humiliating her and insulting her family? Or 191 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: should I just move on? Or should I wait to 192 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: see if she calls or in apologize then and there 193 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: is an update. I do think that he could call, 194 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: yes and say like, hey, really sorry for the outburst. 195 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: I think I just felt really overwhelmed. I don't know 196 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: if I want to keep this going, but I did 197 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: want to apologize. Just want to clear something up. My 198 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: date never had a profile on the dating site. She 199 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: was browsing through with her friend who has a profile, 200 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: and they were looking for a date for her friend. 201 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: It was the friend who originally messaged me to set 202 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: me up with my date. Also, I deleted my profile. 203 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm totally done with online dating. I've been in this 204 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: city two years now, so I'm just going to go 205 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: out and meet people the old fashioned why. It just 206 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: feels less risky somehow. I know this is going to 207 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: disappoint many of you, but I decided to speak with 208 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: her the very day I posted here was the day 209 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: immediately after our date. That same evening, she called me, 210 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: but I didn't answer because I was in the shower. 211 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: So she sent me a text that said, do you 212 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: hate me too much to talk to me? I texted back, 213 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: I don't hate you. She responded, can I call you? 214 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: I texted yes, So she called and immediately went into 215 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: full apology damage control mode. I told her that I 216 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: was okay and that I was already over it and 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: had moved on. She asked if there was any way 218 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: we could meet because there were some things she wanted 219 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: to say in person, and she wanted us to part 220 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: with a handshake and all that. It kind of sounded 221 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: like she needed closure. 222 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: So okay. So again, I feel like they're. 223 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: Taking making this a lot more serious that it's one 224 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: day and she needs closure. 225 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: I think we're missing info. I think that there was, 226 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: and that's why the whole family already knew about this guy. 227 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: It was like, it's just a dating app, but it's 228 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: like clearly they were talking in a way that made 229 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: her feel like, oh my god, me and this guy 230 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: click like bing bang boom like And how apparently the 231 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: family text is deceptive. 232 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: You can click over. 233 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: Echoed that sentiment. He literally said, she's perfect. 234 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: I know, but I think it's decept I think I 235 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: think they're both like, oh wait, this is the real person, 236 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: and I don't know if they're real in person. I 237 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: don't know. So I agreed to meet her downtown to 238 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: talk the falling Tuesday. Not a date, no lunch, no coffee. 239 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: We just met at a park. We met and I 240 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: knew she was still the one. Okay, bing bange boom, 241 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: What did I say? Wait? She told me she loves 242 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: me and we decided to try it again. What. We 243 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: went on three dates and I propose She said, yes, 244 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna get married in no way. No, we're gonna 245 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: get married in December, no big wedding. We're gonna fly 246 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas and do it there. The plan is 247 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: to spend Christmas as a merry couple. 248 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: Just kidding you freaking liar, so you can make jokes, huh. 249 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm not that fing crazy. Hopefully you're still reading. We're 250 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: still here. The rest of the update continues in the 251 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: next paragraph. Okay, we met at a park just to talk. 252 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: I had been so disappointed because I felt that the 253 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: spark and the butterflies in my stomach would be gone, 254 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't like her anymore. As soon as I 255 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: saw her, this was confirmed. There was no spark. 256 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: Boo boo this man. 257 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: She looked great, but I just didn't feel it. It 258 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: kind of crushed me. So I decided to listen to 259 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: her as she apologized again and told me she had 260 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: really liked me on that first date and got carried 261 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: away making a very dumb decision that she wishes she 262 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: could take back. She added that her mom had pulled 263 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: her aside when we arrived and right from the beginning 264 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: told her that if she liked me, she just made 265 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: a big mistake by bringing me. I guess her mom 266 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: pretty much cringed when she saw us walk in that night. Also, 267 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: I should say that her mom was the only one 268 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: defending me that night, and practically pulling people off me, 269 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: like her religious uncle who asked me if I had 270 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: been saved. I remember that pretty well, but I guess 271 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: her mom came down on her heart for not just 272 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: having a first date. But she also said that things 273 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: got even crazier after I left. Her mom wasn't there 274 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: for my rant. She had driven somebody home and came 275 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: back after I had left. She found my date outside 276 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: crying and was told what happened. Her mom, I guess, 277 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: stormed to the restaurant and went off on everybody for 278 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: ganging up on me. My date says she called them 279 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of out of control animals. The whole thing 280 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: was reduced to a big finger pointing fest by everybody. 281 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: The mom was furious because the story is that my 282 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: date's dad left them when my date was nine. He 283 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: had some sort of breakdown and became a heavy drinker. 284 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: He became verbally and emotionally abusive, so the mom punted 285 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: him out to protect the kids. He refused to get 286 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: his act together and disappeared for almost ten years. So 287 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: the mom hates when the dad acts like he has 288 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: a say in his kids' lives since he was gone 289 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: and just came back less than two years ago, but 290 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: he still lives over an hour away. A lot of 291 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: the people who were there, I guess lived far away 292 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: and flew in for the AD's birthday. Supposedly most of 293 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: them she only sees once a year at most. When 294 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: the mom went off on him especially hard and questioned 295 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: his right to have any say in his daughter's decision 296 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: to date anybody, she embarrassed him in front of everybody 297 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: for having overstepped so many boundaries. 298 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: I also just say, forty people's. 299 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: A lot a lot of people. She told me this 300 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: stuff because she wanted me to know that she was 301 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: very sorry she let her dad act all fatherly when 302 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't the time and it wasn't his place. These 303 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: were her words, not mine. In a way, I'm glad 304 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: the mom wasn't there to witness me going off, because 305 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: then I would have felt really bad. But come to 306 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: think of it, she probably would have stepped in and 307 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: prevented it. Do you ask me if there was a 308 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: way we could have that first date again? But I said, no, boo, 309 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: no way I can pretend that we are meaning for 310 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: the first time. After all of that, I know too 311 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: much about her. I feel way too gone past that 312 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: first date mode right now, and maybe I need to 313 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 2: take a break from formal dates. I did apologize to 314 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: her for not telling her right away how uncomfortable I was, 315 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: and for going off on her outside the restaurant. I 316 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: told her that there were a lot of nice people 317 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: there that I felt bad about, but that I'm sure 318 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: they understood me because they seem reasonable. As I was 319 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: talking to her, I could see how much better she 320 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: felt that I had given my own apology. Her face 321 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: went from subdued and sorry to kind of hopeful and 322 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: sem me happy. She started to get back her glow 323 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: and her spunk. We started talking about other stuff, what 324 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: I do at work, my hobbies, and some other casual stuff. 325 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: The more I talked, the more she glowed. I felt 326 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: bad because she showed up looking kind of fragile and contrite. 327 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: She looked vulnerable, but by the end of our conversation 328 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: she was smiling and looking more sure of herself. I 329 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: tried to show my sense of humor and make her laugh. 330 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: I felt kind of sorry for her, so I made 331 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: it my goal to send her own smiling I kind 332 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: of started to feel that spark again after she started 333 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: smiling and laughing more. She has a great laugh. It's 334 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: really innocent. It felt a lot like it did at 335 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: the restaurant. Her awesomeness comes back when she's comfortable. Oh, 336 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: she definitely does it for me. 337 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I'm getting terrible vibes from op. 338 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like they're they're making. 339 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: Up this is I've met people like this, and it's 340 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: like the people that they see have to fit into 341 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: like and I may be just over generalizing here. He 342 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: wants this girl to fit in a nice little box, 343 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: and it's like the fact that he's Oh, well, when 344 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: she was all sad and fragile and subdued, it's I 345 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: didn't care anything for When she started laughing the way 346 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: that I wanted her to be, It's like I started 347 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: to feel the spark again. It's like, who do you 348 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: think you are? The king of the world. 349 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: But again, this is a person he's only been on 350 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: one date with, exactly introduces him to his entire family. 351 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: But I'm like deeply uncomfortable at that thought. And then 352 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: and then shows up and is apologizing, but it's like 353 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: like crying and You're like, I don't I just met you. Okay, 354 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: literally just met you. 355 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: To your point, they've literally just met And what is 356 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: he saying? He's describing her getting her spark back, her 357 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: getting her spunk going again. It's like, how do you 358 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: know that? 359 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: Who are you? She definitely does it for me. I 360 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: walked her to her car and we agree that another 361 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: date is probably not a good idea right now. She 362 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: wanted to meet my yoga teacher because she's the best 363 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: my date. I feel weird not typing her name. As said, 364 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: she needs to learn to relax more when she's stressed out. 365 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: So I met her at yoga class the following Thursday 366 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: and made the introduction. My date has been coming to 367 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: the same three yoga sessions that I do weekly. We 368 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: talk there. She still flirts with me and hints that 369 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: we should meet for hot tea. Neither of us is 370 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: a coffee drinker. I walk her to her car after 371 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: class because it's dark by then. Still like her, and 372 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I can tell she feels the same way. The spark 373 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: is all the way back. Now, the spark's back, Dakota, 374 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: no sparks. 375 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't know I have bad vibes or I don't 376 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: like it. 377 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: But all those comments I got here on my original 378 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: post about her being crazy are still completely launched in 379 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: my head. They have me second guessing myself about staying 380 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: in touch with her. I'm not sure what I'm going 381 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: to do, but whatever it is, it's gonna take time. 382 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: There is another update, final thoughts, because I think I 383 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: think all my thoughts have been spoken. I think we agree, 384 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: but for different reasons. 385 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we agree, but we're on opposite sides of the fence. 386 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like we should like we're coming over here 387 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: and we're on different sides, and but we're both merging 388 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: to say they should not be together. Updates too. We 389 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: continue to attend the same yoga class. Then I accepted 390 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: an invitation for her to get tea after class. We 391 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: had a lot of fun and made plans for an 392 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: official date. 393 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Woo this man again for different reasons. 394 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: Bye, I want you guys to officially listen to more 395 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: full episodes with stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, 396 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast to happen. Search up. Okay, 397 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: story time, ease, do with that. 398 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: Go do it and do it as soon as you're 399 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: done with wait off this episode. 400 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left. I went out 401 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: on a date with her. We dated for a while 402 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: and took it really slowly. I asked her to be 403 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: my girlfriend in early February. So far things have gone 404 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: really smoothly. My lease is up in June, and I 405 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: want to move out of my apartment because it's kind 406 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: of a bachelor place. I want to rent a house 407 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: and ask her to move in. I feel like our 408 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: relationship is growing fast and deepening fast, but I think 409 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: the reason is because we turned out to be so compatible. Also, 410 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: I really am in love with her and she with me, 411 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 2: so I don't want to take it so anymore. I 412 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: know she's going to be very happy when I ask 413 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: her to move in with me. So that's where things are, 414 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: and that is the end of that story. 415 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: I truly do not know what to make of all. 416 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't either, But you know what, if they're happy, 417 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: they're happy. I guess. 418 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: I guess. 419 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: I really that we got an update where it's like 420 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: and I met our family. 421 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Why, good luck. That's all I can say, I guess. 422 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story. 423 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: Yep. So we're gonna get into the next one. 424 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: My girlfriend's family insulted me during Thanksgiving, but my girlfriend 425 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: didn't defit me break out. So to give some context, 426 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: I was born in India and moved to America when 427 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: I was five years old, while my girlfriend, on the 428 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: other hand, is white. We've been together for two years 429 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: now and it's been an absolutely incredible relationship. No by 430 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from music Chat's hit Get Banged 431 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: one oh one and if you want to submit your 432 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: own stories, go do it at the r slash Okay 433 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: storytime suburd. She's kind, sweet, fun and I really do 434 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: want to spend the rest of my life with her. 435 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: We've never really faced any sort of confrontation or prejudice 436 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: for our relationship. At college. Nobody cares, which is why 437 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't prepared at all or her family. Anyways, we're 438 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: getting pretty serious now. We're planning to move in together 439 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: next semester, and I'm planning on proposing after we graduate. 440 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: Hello. 441 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: Oh, she wanted me to meet her family. I guess 442 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: to take the next step or whatever, So she invited 443 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: me to her place for Thanksgiving weekend. She warned me 444 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: her family was kind of different and to try and 445 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: interact and be nice to everyone. When we got there 446 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: and she introduced me to everyone, they all looked at 447 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: me as if they'd never seen a brown guy their 448 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: entire life. It was really awkward. While I was shaking 449 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: everyone's hand, her two older brothers ignored me and walked 450 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: away when I stuck my hand out to them, and 451 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: that's the moment I'm leaving. At first, I thought it 452 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: was because they were weird around new people, so I 453 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: didn't think much of it. I didn't really get a 454 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: chance to talk with anyone, as we got in late 455 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: at night and I was so tired. The next morning, 456 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving, everyone was watching football in the living room, 457 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: so I went and joined them. Her brothers were talking 458 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: some football strategy when the Eagles were getting their butts kicked, 459 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: and so I commented on one of the things they said. 460 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 3: They immediately started laughing and said, what do you know 461 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: about sports? Did you even play any I told them yes, 462 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: I played basketball and did track in high school. They 463 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: laughed and said your sports teams must have been crap. 464 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: I've never seen an athletic brown guy. I didn't say 465 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: anything in response. I just got up left and ignored 466 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: them for the rest of the day. Then later on, 467 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: during the dinner, her uncle asked me what I was studying. 468 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: I told them I was doing a business degree and 469 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: was planning on going to law school. Her d bag 470 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: brothers then chimed in and said, I thought you would 471 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: follow the family business, you know, gold run a cole 472 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: center or seven to eleven or whatever. They also noticed 473 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: how I wasn't eating any meat, so they asked my 474 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: girlfriend why, and she responded that I'm a vegetarian, and 475 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: their response was no, wonder. I've never seen a puff 476 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: brown guy my entire life. At this point, I was 477 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: so close to just leaving, but I thought I could 478 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: just put up with them a bit more for my girlfriend. 479 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: A bit later, her dad and some other relatives were 480 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: talking about Trump and how he's completely right about Muslims 481 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: cheering during nine to eleven or some b s. I 482 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: completely zoned out to their nonsense. Then her dad asked me, 483 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: are you Muslim, which I said no to her grandma 484 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: then said, bs, you look like one, and your name 485 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: is like one. All of you basically slurs disgust me. 486 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: After that, I was effing done. I tried to be kind, 487 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: but these efforts treat me like crap and insisted on 488 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: saying stupid, prejudicial things about myself and my race, my 489 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: girlfriend followed me up to her room. I told her 490 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: I was leaving and going to stay in a hotel, 491 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: but she begged me to stay. 492 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: For one more night, breaking up with her. Breaking up 493 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: with her, Yeah, I'm breaking up with her right then. 494 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: It's like, do not even see like. 495 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: You put him in this situation? Like obviously his family 496 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: are like terrible monsters, but like she is a freaking 497 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: a hole, breaking a hole to put him in this situation, 498 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: not defend him, and then have the audacity to tell 499 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: him that he has to stay in it. 500 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said that we would leave early in the morning. 501 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: She apologized for their behavior but told me this is 502 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: the way they've always been and that she was sorry 503 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: for not defending me. I was about to lay into 504 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: her for not saying anything to defend me, but I 505 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: didn't feel like getting into an argument in front of 506 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: her family. I stayed in her room for the rest 507 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: of the night, avoided all of her family, and left 508 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: early the next morning. We've both avoided the entire incident since, 509 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: but I really want to address this before it becomes 510 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: a further issue. We're getting pretty serious, though. I'm probably 511 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: not going to be able to further avoid her family, 512 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: So I want some advice on how to deal with 513 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: these types of people. What should I do? There's an update. 514 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of crap has gone down since 515 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: my original post. First of all, I want to thank 516 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: everyone for their responses. Moving on, yesterday, I texted my 517 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: girlfriend to come over to my apartment to talk. I 518 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: was planning on telling her that I was really upset 519 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: by the fact that she didn't defend me at all 520 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: from her relatives and that she didn't prepare me by 521 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: properly informing me of how her family behaves. In addition, 522 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: I was hoping we could make an agreement for the 523 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: future on how to properly deal with these sorts of situations. 524 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: So she came over later on in the evening. We 525 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: sat down, and I first began by discussing how pissed 526 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: I was that she neither prepared me for the incident 527 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: nor defended me when it occurred. She immediately broke down 528 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: and started crying. Then she started saying how sorry she 529 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: was for putting me in that situation, and that she 530 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: had her reasons. The only reason that you do that 531 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: is because you're afraid your not white boyfriend is going 532 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: to break up with you when he finds out your 533 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: whole family is raised. 534 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is not a good enough reason. 535 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: That's you being scared, that's you being selfish. Apparently, she 536 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: had kept me a secret from her family for the 537 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: past two years because she knew they would not approve 538 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: of her choices. A few months ago, one of her 539 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 3: family friends that we go to college with, saw us 540 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: together on a date or something. She then went and 541 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: told her family that my girlfriend was dating an Indian guy. 542 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 3: So for the last few months, without my knowledge, my 543 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: girlfriend has been constantly getting phone calls, texts, and emails 544 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: from her family and old friends that she should break 545 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: up with me, she could do a lot better, and 546 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: that she wasn't safe around someone like me. She basically 547 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: ignored all of their requests and repeatedly tried to explain 548 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: to them that she was happy with me and they 549 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: should try and respect her feelings. She showed me some 550 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: texts and it displayed how they were emotionally blackmailing her, 551 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: saying bs like they put food on her table and 552 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: took care of her for all these years, and she 553 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: doesn't care for her family at all. After a few 554 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: months of this, she told them that they should at 555 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: least give me a chance and meet me with the 556 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: hope that they would somehow change their opinion and understand 557 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: her feelings. She didn't want to tell me the full 558 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: scope of how fed up her family was because she 559 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: was scared I would break up with her. I was 560 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: really saddened to hear this, because that would never happen. Also, 561 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: the reason she remained quiet during her family's remarks was 562 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: that she thought arguing back would further exacerbate this situation 563 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: and we would have no chance of them changing their opinion. 564 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: Hey girl, you don't have that chance at all ever 565 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: in the beginn No. No. After I had left their 566 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 3: house the morning after Thanksgiving, her parents told her how 567 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: rude and disrespectful they found me. They also said how 568 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: it wasn't proper for her to it date outside of 569 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: her race. Yeah, which that's not rude at all. Right, 570 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: that's not a rude thing to say. 571 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: Ah. 572 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like rude and disrespect us. Never, those are 573 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: just totally normal, not raised comments that everyone makes. 574 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 3: Maybe they just went to maybe this Thanksgiving was on 575 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: a Wednesday and it was opposite day. Yeah, and they 576 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: were like, why was he being so We were trying 577 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: to be and mean because we wanted to be not 578 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: much we like him. Her grandmother apparently thought I was 579 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: part of Obama's Muslim brotherhood, sent here to fight for 580 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: the Islamification of America. Lol, I know I had no 581 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: idea idiots like this existed. They then gave her an ultimatum. 582 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: Either end our relationship or they would cut her off completely. Girl, 583 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: look at that. You have found yourself in a perfect position. 584 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: Let this thinky trash take itself out. 585 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: It is not worth selling your soul to the literal devil. Like, 586 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: obviously it's going to be a lot harder to pay off, 587 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: you know, if you have student loans and stuff you 588 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: have to get, that's going to be a lot harder. 589 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: But in the long run, like cutting yourself off from 590 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: these horrible, horrible people who are going to make your 591 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: life a nightmare and hold the money that they spent 592 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: on you over your head forever. It's just like in 593 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: the long run, so just cut them off. 594 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: Beyond that, it's look at look at them, look at 595 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: you and say, are these people, Like, are these people 596 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: people I want to have around? Is this behavior I 597 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: would tolerate in any context? 598 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 599 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: And like if the answer is yes, you need to 600 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: do some serious self reflection. 601 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: Also, she absolutely is part of the problem. 602 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: Fingers crossed. This story ends with her cutting her entire family. 603 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: Her parents pay for both her college and her residence expenses. 604 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: She was trying to find the right time and the 605 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: best way to tell me this, which I'm guessing is 606 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: why she avoided this topic for the past week. She 607 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: came to the decision that she wanted to continue dating 608 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: me and informed her family of that decision. And by 609 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: the way, I'm going to inform you right now that 610 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: you can make a decision to listen to full episodes 611 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: with stories like this. All you have to do is 612 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: go to Spotify or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get 613 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: your podcasts from, even YouTube. 614 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: If you want to search. 615 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: Okay, storytime, go. 616 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: Ahead and do that. 617 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: There's forty seven days worth of episodes for you to listen. 618 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: To, back to back to back to back to back. 619 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: There is a little bit of story left. Honestly, I 620 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: like there's nothing. Say yeah, these people. 621 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: Are awful, yes, and you need to dump them. 622 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. For the next hour we discussed whether 623 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: or not this was the right decision for her. I 624 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: felt guilty that I would be the reason she goes 625 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: into massive student dead. But she told me this was 626 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: the right choice. She could no longer stand their toxic 627 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: presence in her life, and the way they treated me 628 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: was the last straw. So I guess this is where 629 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: we're at right now. We're trying to figure out how 630 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: to deal with all the fallout together. And in all honesty, 631 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm very proud of her for the way she handled 632 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: an extremely difficult situation. I wish that she had told 633 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: me beforehand so we could have dealt with this together. 634 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: But she held strong to what her personal feelings were 635 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: and didn't allow herself to be walked all over by 636 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 3: her family. She's been through a lot of crap in 637 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: her life, and I'm really happy that she stood up 638 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: to them. And that is the end of that story. 639 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: And would you look at that she cut them off. 640 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: There we go, that's what we wanted to happen. I mean, 641 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: obviously she made a ginormous, ginormous error indeed, let me 642 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 2: getting this story, but she is absolutely at fault for that. Indeed, 643 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: we did say that the only way that she could 644 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: potentially move forward is by cutting them off, and then 645 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: she cut them alof so thus they made together. 646 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, we're moving forward and that is the end 647 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: of that story. 648 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam' your og host. Here. We're gonna get 649 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's three minutes of ads 650 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: from our sponsors. 651 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: My sister skipped meeting my baby for a concerts. 652 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: I mean, was it Taylor. Yeah, it's Taylor Swift and 653 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: it's like front row seeds. I mean, come out on 654 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: that baby. 655 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: This is a very long story. Sorry in advance, there 656 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: are so many details. I thirty four female, am originally 657 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: from Toronto, Canada. I was born and raised there until 658 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: I was fourteen, and then moved to Seattle, Washington, where 659 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: I currently live. My dad moved here with my ex 660 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: stepmom years ago and my half sister. By the way, 661 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: this comes from Think Discussion eight sixty to two and 662 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: if you want to spit your own stories, go to 663 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: our slash joke story time Separate it. So, my relationship 664 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: with my dad has always been pretty shallow. He's not 665 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: one to talk about a lot of deep talk topics, 666 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: and throughout my childhood he was very present. But I 667 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: have concluded my relationship with him won't be deep, and 668 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: I've accepted it for what it is. My half sister, 669 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: twenty four female and I have a very good relationship. 670 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: We've texted and talked on the phone often, usually texting 671 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: daily and talking on the phone weekly. 672 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's kind of cute. 673 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: Since we were young, I've felt the need to protect her. 674 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: Her mom, my ex stepmom, and our dad used to 675 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: fight a lot, to the point of the cops being 676 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: called and parents going to jail for the night. That's 677 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: more than fighting a lot. WHOA. Because of this, her 678 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: sense of stability in the parents wasn't really there. I 679 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: wanted to be something stable for her. Since then, we've 680 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: grown and she moved back to Toronto with her mom 681 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: and I stayed in Seattle. But I always wanted to 682 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: see her, so I bought her plane tickets for her 683 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: to come visit me, and I bought flights to go 684 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: see her in Toronto along with other family that lives there. 685 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: And when she's here, I want to spoil her, so 686 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: we go to cafes, have lunches, go to events, get 687 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: matching sister tattoos, I take her shopping. I've even bought 688 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: her a trip to Australia as a gift, and those 689 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: are pricey. I give her cash as gift. I buy 690 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: her jewelry, the books and shoes she wants, etc. I'm 691 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: trying to be there for her by providing experiences and 692 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: giving her things she needs. Slash wants. 693 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: That's really really nice. 694 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Lovely, And I'm sad about the title because you seem 695 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: like you're a great sister. Yeah. Now my story begins 696 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: after I had a baby in September twenty twenty three. 697 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: I told my family right away when I found out 698 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: I was pregnant eight months earlier, and told them the 699 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: do date. Everyone was excited for the first grandchild. My 700 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: dad had been asking for years when I'd have a 701 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: baby and when he'd become a grandfather. Fast forward to 702 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: having the baby. She was born early September, and my 703 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: mom came to help one month before the baby was 704 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: born and stayed for a month after she was born. 705 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: Great mom. 706 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: During that time, my half sister expressed that she should 707 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: be with me right after I gave birth. I told 708 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: her I could help her pay for a plane ticket, 709 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: or if she needed I could pay for it entirely. 710 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: She said she needed a few days and she'd get 711 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: back to me eventually. She said she can't come because 712 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: she couldn't take time off work and can't afford it. 713 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: But we already know that the sister was going to 714 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: pay for it. 715 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, but like ty saying I can't get time 716 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: off work, I think that's reason that could be a 717 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 1: bit more reasonable if it's true, if you're not a 718 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: dirty distinctly liar. 719 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: Didn't make sense to me since I offered to pay 720 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: for her flight, but I let it go. My dad 721 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: told me in mid September twenty twenty three, he's going 722 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: to take a trip to New Zealand. He lives in 723 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: the US too, but in the state of Georgia, and 724 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: he booked it for October for sixteen days. I was 725 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: kind of confused he'd travel around the world before meeting 726 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: my daughter, but figured he just needed to travel. He's 727 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 2: always wanted to go to New Zealand. Sometimes you got 728 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: to take a trip before he become a grandfather. 729 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 730 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: He told my half sister about his trip, and she 731 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: mentioned she was going to quit her job in December 732 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: and if he postpones his trip till after she quits, 733 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: she'll go with him. 734 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Fine, Okay. 735 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: He did this and move their trip to the first 736 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: two weeks in January twenty twenty four. I was happy 737 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: they could go together and didn't think much of it. 738 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: I still figured they come visit before that trip. Then 739 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: October twenty twenty three comes and my sister tells me 740 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: about weekend long concert she's been going to in Montreal 741 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: and she has to take time off work for it. 742 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: And this is where I start to take. 743 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Time off work for your weekend long concert, but you 744 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: won't take time off for my baby. 745 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: Ridiculous. 746 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: That's the coolest concert around. You can hear me screaming 747 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and my baby screaming. It's like a little like Queen concert. 748 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: Like, Wow, I'm gonna cry anyway. 749 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did this twice and took weekend long trips 750 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: to concerts and rapes. She stayed in Montreal and hotels, 751 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: et cetera. This just didn't aligne with her saying she 752 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: had no time off to see me and no money. 753 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Then she mentioned these tickets to Portugal are cheap and 754 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: she's going to buy them for the upcoming year. 755 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: Dude, she was just saying she can't afford traveling. This 756 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: is BS, this is stop. 757 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is to all the trips that I get 758 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: got treat me. 759 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, is how you pay me back on the day 760 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: of my child's birth. 761 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: That's no respect. 762 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: I think she should travel, but it's starting to hurt 763 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: more because it feels like meeting my daughter isn't a priority. 764 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: In November twenty twenty three, I asked my dad if 765 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: he'll come visit anytime soon. He says he can't. He 766 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: uses every excuse every time I ask him. I can't 767 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: because the property I need to fix something, or I 768 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: have to build a fence and go to this meeting 769 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: about it. 770 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: What I have to build offences? 771 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, hey, are you gonna come meet my baby? 772 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: And he's like, I've got to build a fence. 773 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I gotta cook the water. You know, the water's not 774 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna cook itself. 775 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: I eventually gave up asking him. Then I found out 776 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: my half sister went down to Georgia to visit our 777 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: dad in November twenty twenty three, and she took off 778 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: work for that, which all hurts again. 779 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh. 780 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: My dad and half sister then flew to New Zealand 781 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: and January twenty twenty four. Early February twenty twenty four, 782 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: my sister did come out to visit us and meet 783 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: my daughter. At this point, she's five months old. And 784 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm happy she's here. My dad eventually makes it out 785 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: to see us in May twenty twenty four, when my 786 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: daughter is eight and a half months old. That's insane 787 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: to me, like as a grandparent, but also just like 788 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: a parent, did not want to immediately come out. 789 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's weird that like the family is the 790 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: prioritizing ope at all. I mean, it's really sad, honestly. 791 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: Mid July twenty twenty four, my daughter is ten months old. 792 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: Now I talk to my half sister and tell her 793 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm hurt because meeting my daughter didn't seem like a 794 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: priority for her. 795 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, for three weeks. 796 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: She's very defensive, telling me nothing big happened to you. 797 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: You just had a baby. 798 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: That is like one of the most important things that 799 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: you was like sarcastic. 800 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: That is one of the most important things. 801 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: What is bigger than having a baby? 802 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: What is like? All right? I feel like it goes like, oh, 803 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: I actually question, would you rather miss someone's marriage? All right? 804 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: You have a marriage and a baby at the same day. 805 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: Would you rather go to go to the wedding the 806 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: wedding over the baby? 807 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: Depending on who? Well, who are they? 808 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: It's it's me, but in two parallel universes. 809 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: It's you, but in two barrels. 810 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, are either choosing between seeing the birth of my 811 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: child or in the room you can if you want 812 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: to child. 813 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 814 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just let's assume that you have full autonomy. 815 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: I'm fully I'm fully in the room. 816 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: You're fully in the room. You got and I will 817 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: see your eyes roll with tickets. 818 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 2: I'm your maid and I'm in the room. 819 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Yes, you're You're my maid of honor and you're in 820 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: the room. Which one do you go? 821 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: I think if I'm your maid of honor, I have 822 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: to be there for you. 823 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: It's true, like you have a responsible have responsibilities. That's true. 824 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 2: You're not birthing the baby. 825 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: What if you're the doula for the baby, You're you're 826 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the maid of honor the baby. 827 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: WHOA, Okay, so I'm the midwife, the maid of honor. 828 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: And the maid of honor. Which one do you Which 829 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: one you go? 830 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: Well, I find the midwife. I have to be the midwife. 831 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 832 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: But if I'm just in the room and I'm also 833 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: your Yeah, but I'm saying if I if I was 834 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: in the midwife, I would choose to be your maid 835 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: of honor. Yeah, but if I am the midwife, then 836 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: I got to be in the room, and that I'm 837 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: acting like I and that I should be upset with 838 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: myself because my expectations are so high that I'm going 839 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: to lose everyone I love. When I point out that 840 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: she had the time off work because she went to 841 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: all the concerts and visited our dad, she said she 842 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: barely had the time of and those were spur of 843 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: the moment trips. I point out that she works part time, 844 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: her job isn't full time, and she always gets three 845 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: day weekends. Oh my god, could she have to visit 846 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: for a three day weekend? She said the price of 847 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: the ticket wasn't worth it for only visiting three days, 848 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: which I don't understand. I know she'd rather be here 849 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: for a week. But I even offered to pay for 850 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: the ticket, and when I pointed it out, she said 851 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: she just didn't want to ask me to pay for it. 852 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: She would have rather I just paid for it without 853 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: having to ask you. She's like, why didn't you ask me? 854 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: It's such an arden, just read my mind. 855 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: Then, when I pointed out how she had said no money, 856 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: but she works and our dad also gives her one 857 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 2: K month just to do whatever she wants. She said, 858 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: how she spends her own money is her own business, 859 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: not mine. This went on for three weeks. 860 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: Then she steth is bickering. 861 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: Wow. 862 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: Then she told her dad. We were arguing and he 863 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: called me and said I needed to fix things because 864 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm the older sibling. That if I don't, he's going 865 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: to consider changing his will. 866 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: I don't like when people threaten their will. Yeah, I'm 867 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: like lame on, like I've got. 868 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: A wait until I pass away, I'll show you you're 869 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: not getting a thing. This went on for three weeks. 870 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: Then she told her dad we were arguing and he 871 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: called me, saying I needed to fix it because I'm 872 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: the older sibling and that if I don't, he's going 873 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: to consider changing his will. And he was considering coming 874 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: to live in Seattle to be around me and my family, 875 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: and now he's not because I'm tearing his family apart. 876 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: That's so lame, Like, oh, well, I was thinking about 877 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: moving there to be with you and your child, but 878 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: now not. I don't think I will, and always like 879 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: you never told. 880 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: Me that, yeah, and also like it it's like you're 881 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: having the best of your of both worlds. You know, 882 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: you're like doing exactly the insane terrible behavior that you've 883 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: always wanted to do while getting the benefit of Like 884 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: maybe I would have if you hadn't been so mean. 885 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I would have done it. But you know 886 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: what you guys should do listen to full episodes with 887 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 888 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: or your favorite podcast up scho story. Don't do it 889 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: right now, stay where you are, but if you're watching 890 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: this in the future, to them, there's a little bit 891 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: more to the story. I hung up the phone on 892 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: my dad. He hasn't talked to me since that phone call, 893 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: which was back in August twenty twenty four. Sister apologized briefly. 894 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: I told her I'm not happy being treated this way, 895 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: and shewap on me again and went straight back into 896 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: being defensive and then told me it's not worth having 897 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: a relationship with me if we're gonna keep doing this. 898 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: I feel like did something happen. I feel like there's 899 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: some information because they were great for years. I feel 900 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: like there's some information that we're not getting. 901 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, Redditt, fam should I have just kept 902 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: my mouth shut and I the ale, are my expectations 903 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: of my family too high? Okay? Okay? And there are 904 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: some comments to finish this off. Comment one says, some 905 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: people just aren't baby people, and your sister is in 906 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: the prime Mimi me twenties base it. They did come 907 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: to see the baby, but their lives are not babies 908 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: centered like yours is. Okay, that's a no, no, no, no 909 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: no no. I think that's a stupid thing to say, 910 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: because even. 911 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 3: If you don't like babies, mean you're not. 912 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: You don't have to be there to see the baby. 913 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: You can be there to support your sister and your 914 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: daughter who is actively going through one of the most 915 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: painful experience answers of maybe her life. 916 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about supporting someone through their milestone. It's 917 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: really to not support someone through that milestone feels like 918 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: just like you don't care about that. 919 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 2: It's only fifty percent about this baby. It's also about 920 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: fifty percent about supporting the person who's birthing the child. 921 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 922 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: Not sure what dad's problem is, but my sister is 923 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: aware that going to concerts and lots of fun adult 924 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: activities are probably not going to happen now that baby 925 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: is here. It was okay to tell them your feelings once, 926 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: but stop bringing it up and move on with your life. 927 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: You have your own family now, and your dad and 928 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: sisters seem to be doing okay. They'll come to visit 929 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 2: on their own time. Meanwhile, enjoy your baby and keep 930 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: your conversations positive. I disagree. I disagree with that comment. 931 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: Enjoy your baby. 932 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh. 933 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, your family's living their life. But but like you 934 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: can't be upset. I don't agree with that. 935 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think like I. 936 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: Think in terms of, you know, maybe you don't have 937 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: to actively reach out to them because they're not clearly 938 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: not an effort. 939 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I feel like like maybe that's 940 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: good advice, like don't hold on to the hate. But 941 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: I really think maybe that means you see now where 942 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: you fall in the priority wheel of your family, and 943 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: now take that information into how you want to treat 944 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: them going forward. 945 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: Common to not the a hole. I would be her too. Here. 946 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: I was bumm that my mom and sister waited a 947 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: week to come see me after my baby, and they 948 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: only waited that long because they'd been sick. Your expectations 949 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: are not too high, especially since you were going to 950 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: pay for your sister's ticket. It sounds like, surely there 951 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: was more going on, or has your relationship with your 952 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: sister always been one sided? Opie says, if there was 953 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: something more going on, they haven't told me the relationship 954 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: has been this one sided. But I figured it's because 955 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: our age gap and she's so much younger. But I've 956 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 2: always been the one to pay for our experiences and gifts, 957 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 2: be there for graduations, et cetera. She has never come 958 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: visit me for a big life event. And I even 959 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 2: had a wedding dress fitting in Toronto and she still 960 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: couldn't make it. I think I'm realizing it was just 961 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: more of a one sided relationship. 962 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: That is that's really really sad. 963 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: I'll be there for your rooms and. 964 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless as a Bella is having a baby, yeah. 965 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: He says, not the ale your sister. Growing up in 966 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: that chaotic environment and being in your twenties, I can 967 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: see your responses and behavior being like this. I'm in 968 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: my twenties, I wouldn't pull this behavior. 969 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're like your mid twenties now. 970 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: Litl Sis will hopefully get a reality check one day. 971 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: But your dad also still seems to be unstable with 972 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: his behavior and priorities, especially after bugging you about grandkids. 973 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 2: His gas slighting and putting blame on you is unreal. 974 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: So sorry, enjoy your new little one and hope your replies. 975 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: I've learned to deal with my dad like this. It's 976 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: not the first time he's done this. Thank you for 977 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: your insight. I never really thought or upbringing could be 978 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: impacting my sister in this situation, but it definitely could be. 979 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: And that is the end of that story. Man oh man. Yeah, 980 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 2: your sister and your dad. 981 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think there for you. 982 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: And now you know that these people are not going 983 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: to prioritize you and just like no going forward, you 984 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: know what, no more paying for flights, and your sister's 985 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 2: gonna realize that she was relying on you a lot. 986 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: And hopefully you know, get some sense. My parents disown me, 987 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 2: but now they're asking for financial support. 988 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to disown that ask and put you to 989 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: the streets. 990 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 991 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 2: Background, this is gonna be a bit long throway because 992 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: I use the same username for almost everything I have, sadly, 993 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: so to start off, I'll say that I am an 994 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: Asian American with parents that are very old fashioned Asian. 995 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: By the way, This comes from hey, hey, throwaway and 996 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 2: if you want to smit your own stories, got our slash. Okay, 997 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: storytime separated, So think of your stereotypical Asian parents. I 998 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: was brought up to study and get good grades because 999 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: I am the son of the family and it will 1000 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: be my responsibility to take care of my parents. 1001 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 1002 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: I have an older sister, currently thirty eight female, but 1003 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: since she was a girl, my parents were not strict 1004 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: on her at all and let her basically have whatever 1005 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: she wanted. When my parents came to America, they had 1006 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 2: no money or anything because they had experienced mrouge. They 1007 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: worked hard and brought up my sister and I in 1008 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: a typical lower middle class fashion, except that they had 1009 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: those stereotypical Asian expectations of me. I always expected to 1010 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: take care of my parents, since I was brought up 1011 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: to expect that. While growing up, my parents made me 1012 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: study a lot. They didn't let me do anything like 1013 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: learn how to bike, go to friends' houses, et cetera. 1014 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: I was expected to stay at home and study so 1015 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 2: that I could eventually get a great, high paying job 1016 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: and support my parents in their old age. The same 1017 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: was expected of my older cousins, and they have all 1018 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: become doctors or other professions in the medical fields. It 1019 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: has been drilled into me to become a doctor since 1020 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: I was When I got into a good university, I 1021 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: majored in biochemistry and continued my education toward becoming a doctor. 1022 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: But I started to doubt whether or not I really 1023 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: wanted this path. I honestly did not know what I 1024 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: enjoyed in life, and while I could see myself being 1025 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: a doctor, I could not see myself happy in the future. 1026 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I mean I think that, like having parental 1027 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: expectations like that must be so hard, and then also 1028 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: to realize they're like, ooh. 1029 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 4: I don't like this, And I've been spending like ten 1030 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 4: years trying to become a Doctor's now like what do 1031 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 4: I do? And do I even know what I even 1032 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 4: like because I've been spending so much time doing what 1033 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: other people want me to do that I don't even 1034 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 4: know what I want to do myself. 1035 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: Like that's suck. 1036 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 2: This slight epiphany happened during my senior year, though, so 1037 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 2: I was already going to graduate. During my time in college, 1038 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: I took many language classes because I found that I 1039 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 2: was really good at learning languages nice. Before long, I 1040 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: found that I enjoy learning new words and getting fluent 1041 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: in languages. I found a career option that would let 1042 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: me teach English in another country for as long as 1043 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: I wanted. I decided that I wanted to do this 1044 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: instead of becoming a doctor, because I found myself enjoying 1045 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 2: my time learning language is much more than learning medical stuff. 1046 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: I also just wanted to try this out to see 1047 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: if I liked to teach and if this was something 1048 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: that I might enjoy. Okay, when I told my parents, 1049 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: they absolutely freaked out, saying that I was throwing my 1050 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 2: future away and that I needed to forget about all. 1051 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: Of this just really quick. On this. The idea that 1052 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: there are three jobs doctor, lawyer, engineer that like, is 1053 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: that the only way that you can be successful as 1054 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: being in one of those jobs is very much no 1055 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: longer true. Yeah, and if you have. 1056 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 2: Any kind of andue back then either, yeah. 1057 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: But even more now, like at the age of the Internet, 1058 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: when you have like you can learn anything online and 1059 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: like you can make money from just going into your 1060 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: interests and sharing that interest with other people. Like I 1061 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: think it's like, I know, it's just it's It's sad 1062 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: to see that being discouraged because I think it's one 1063 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: of the things that leads to the most successes. Following 1064 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: your interest unabashedly and immediately very true. 1065 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: I responded saying that I was still graduating with a 1066 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: biochemistry degree in an honors program at a good university, 1067 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: and that if I didn't like teaching English, I could 1068 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 2: still apply for medical school and do other things well applying, 1069 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: they said it was ridiculous. Their reasoning was simple, money 1070 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: will make you happy. 1071 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: Not true, dude. 1072 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 2: I severely disagreed and said that I still had not 1073 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: found what made me happy and that I wanted to 1074 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: try things out while doing it. I was not going 1075 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: to use their money because I had my own money 1076 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: that I had saved up, which would last a fair 1077 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: amount of time, and the job that I was considering 1078 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: paid a fair amount. In response, they said that they 1079 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: would disown me if I went off track and delayed 1080 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 2: becoming a doctor because they did not want to work 1081 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: anymore and wanted to retire. I said that they could 1082 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: retire whenever they want, and that I could pay for 1083 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 2: medical school myself or take out student loans, which isn't unusual. 1084 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: Ah So What it sounds like is they don't want 1085 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: what's best for you. They just want a safe safety 1086 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: net because they want you to make a bunch of money. 1087 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: They want to be rich because they want you to 1088 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: take care of them. Yikes. 1089 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: They did not budge, and I would not budge. The 1090 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 2: end result was me being disowned by my parents during 1091 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: the end of my senior year at the age of 1092 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: twenty three. 1093 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 1094 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: They said that I should not come back crying to 1095 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: them when I was poor and sad. My sister's still 1096 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: kept in contact because she knew how unreasonable they were being. 1097 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: After taking the job in another country, I found that 1098 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: I loved teaching kids and that I also loved traveling. 1099 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: While abroad, I traveled all over the place. When I 1100 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 2: had days off, I met a wonderful woman and married her. 1101 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: I have a three year old son. Fast forward at 1102 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: the present, I am currently a university teacher for medical school. 1103 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: So it seemed like it worked out after all, didn't it. 1104 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 2: I guess I couldn't shake off my past of medicine, 1105 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: and I make a very good amount of money. I 1106 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: am living comfortably. 1107 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 3: What freaking go o pee lovely because. 1108 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: This commines Ope's love of teaching and Ope's parents' love 1109 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 2: of medical school. 1110 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you kind of like hit the jackpot, except 1111 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean maybe not on the parent toll side, the 1112 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: parental side not as much. 1113 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 2: But there is a problems. 1114 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: Always, there's always a problem. 1115 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 2: Recently, my sister has informed me that my parents wanted 1116 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: to meet. I was surprised because I haven't talked or 1117 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: seen them in seven years. I went to meet them 1118 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: after thinking about it for a bit, and I will 1119 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: admit I felt huge relief seeing them again after so long. 1120 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: There was some small talk in catching up before the 1121 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 2: informed me that they were hoping to reconnect. I was, 1122 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: of course opened to the idea, but then they stated 1123 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: that they were hoping that I could pay them back 1124 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: like a good son, for all they did for me, 1125 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: for dishowning you at twenty three. 1126 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want that with interest too? 1127 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 3: Like it's called twenty three in me? 1128 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: Okay, you kind of agreed to this when you signed 1129 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: up to have a kid by having a. 1130 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 2: Kid, and it's like, oh, what's the alternative? You guys 1131 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: cut me off if I don't give you the money, 1132 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: because you already did that. 1133 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: You have no power for all they did for me. 1134 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: Through childhood until I finished college. They were hoping that 1135 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: I could still take care of them by making the 1136 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 2: last years of their life easier in a better house 1137 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 2: with people to help them out with things in their 1138 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: old age. I wasn't quite sure what to make of 1139 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: this request. I told them to let me think on it, 1140 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 2: and they were fine with that after getting home and 1141 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 2: thinking on it a bit. They're basically asking me to 1142 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: buy them a house with caretakers to take care of 1143 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: them in their old age. It sounds ridiculous, but at 1144 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 2: the same time, I still do love, respect, and feel 1145 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: indebted to my parents for all that they did for 1146 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: me in the past, despite disowning me again. Parents are 1147 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 2: supposed to do that. They are supposed to take care 1148 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: of you because they are your They signed up for this. 1149 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: You did not. I am not sure why it's like this, 1150 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: but it may be because I was brought up with 1151 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: the expectation to take care of them. I can afford 1152 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: the request as well without hurting my family financially at all. 1153 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: I just don't know if I should. My wife said 1154 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: that while she would rather me not, it is my 1155 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: choice because she has never known my parents, and that 1156 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: she will support me I just don't know what I 1157 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: should do, and there is an update. I mean, this 1158 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: is up to you, but just know that they are 1159 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 2: always going to place money above you. They just care 1160 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: about you. 1161 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: They don't care about you. They care about the safety 1162 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: that you could provide them. Yes, and then maybe they 1163 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: care about some cultural expectations of what you should be. 1164 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't. They don't care about you. They've 1165 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 2: shown that to you because they didn't talk to you 1166 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: for seven years. For seven years because you wouldn't go 1167 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 2: to medical school. All right, No, you went to medical 1168 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: school because you wouldn't become a doctor. Yeah, you don't 1169 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: owe them anything, but there is an update. First off, 1170 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 2: I'd like to thank everyone that posted to my previous post. 1171 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 2: It was very helpful and allowed me to see things 1172 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: from many perspectives. I tried to answer as many as 1173 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 2: I could and read all of them. After posting and 1174 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: reading all the responses, I took a day to digest 1175 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 2: all the information and think clearly about what I wanted. 1176 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: I then called my wife up and we discussed for 1177 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 2: a while about what I want to do, what I will, 1178 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: Sash won't regret doing, and our family. In the end, 1179 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: I decided that I would help my estranged parents. Many 1180 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 2: of you were against this, but from my perspective, they 1181 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 2: were still my parents. It may be because of my upbringing, 1182 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 2: but I still wanted to help them in their old age. 1183 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not much of a vindictive person when it 1184 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 2: comes to wrongs done to me, only when it's wrongs 1185 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: done to people I love. In order to move on 1186 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: with my life, I let most of my hate in 1187 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: the past, and I had for the most part, forgotten 1188 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: about my parents until they contacted me again. Even though 1189 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 2: I decided to help them, I wasn't going to do 1190 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: what they asked for. I planned on asking them there 1191 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 2: are reasons for getting back into contact with me if 1192 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 2: they regret what they said, et cetera. I know that 1193 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: they are after some money from me, but personally, I 1194 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 2: think it's fine to share a bit of mine with 1195 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 2: my parents who did raise me for twenty three years. 1196 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 2: Once I finished talking to my wife, I called up 1197 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: my sister and asked if she would share some info 1198 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: with me about my parents' financial situation and such. It 1199 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 2: turns out that what my parents had saved during my 1200 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 2: childhood and time in college, they ended up gambling a 1201 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 2: fair amount. 1202 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: Away they gambled it. 1203 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 2: Oh it's a bit ironic, as they are car dealers 1204 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 2: in a big name casino and see people gamble away 1205 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 2: their money basically every day. According to my sister, disowning 1206 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: me did have an effect on my parents and they 1207 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: retreated into gambling. They recently stopped gambling, but the damage 1208 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: was already done. My sisters helped them out some, but 1209 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: my parents never directly asked her for assistance. I instead 1210 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 2: asked my sister if she would be willing to help 1211 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: me and helping my parents. She agreed, and now the 1212 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 2: only thing left was to meet my parents. 1213 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 3: Mmm. 1214 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: No. 1215 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 2: I called up my dad and asked to meet them 1216 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 2: and my mom again. When we met, I asked them 1217 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 2: straight out why they wanted to meet with me again 1218 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 2: and reconcile with me. After a bit of my mom 1219 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: flailing around for response, my dad told me straight up 1220 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: that the main reason was money. Wow, they were getting 1221 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: old that made a stupid mistake, ended up in this situation, 1222 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 2: and were hoping for some help for me despite what 1223 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: they'd done. 1224 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you do at them, ensure that 1225 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: you don't give them any money to spend themselves, because like, 1226 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 1: make sure. 1227 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: That you're someone else control. He said that they were 1228 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: sorry for what happened and that while it was one 1229 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: of the hardest things he had to do, he decided 1230 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 2: to come to me for money because he did not 1231 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: want my mom to live her last years horribly. He 1232 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: did not go to my sister because he felt it 1233 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 2: was more shameful to ask her for money than it 1234 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: was to come back to me. As I was the 1235 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: sun slash a man. It did sting a bit here 1236 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 2: directly that he was only after money, but at the 1237 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 2: same time, I'm relieved that he didn't beat around the 1238 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: bush and lie to me. I asked him if you 1239 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 2: regret what he did to me and whether he was 1240 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: willing to apologize. He replied that he does regret disowning me, 1241 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: and that I was in the heat of the moment 1242 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 2: and his pride as my dad made it hard to 1243 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 2: go back on his decision despite it being stupid. He apologized, 1244 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 2: but said that he still did not think that his 1245 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: line of thought was wrong. He said that more than 1246 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: likely I would have ended up in debt and in 1247 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: a bad situation, but I worked hard to get where 1248 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: I am, and that he is glad that everything worked 1249 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 2: out At this point, things were getting a bit emotional, 1250 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 2: so I steered the conversation toward the money. I informed 1251 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 2: them that I would not be buying them a house, 1252 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 2: but would be willing to make their current house more comfortable, 1253 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 2: help with some bills, and maybe in the future, when 1254 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: they really lost their independence, I would hire a caretaker 1255 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 2: for them with the house. 1256 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I feel like, that's that. 1257 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: Is more than any people who like literally disowned you. 1258 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 2: That is, that is much more than they deserve. Yeah. 1259 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 2: I asked them why they wanted another house, and my 1260 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: dad said that while it wasn't too much of a 1261 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 2: problem yet, he was afraid that him or my mom 1262 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: would fall into a ternal sleep from the stairs and 1263 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 2: wanted a one story house instead. I suggested that they 1264 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: moved from the master bedroom to the room downstairs that 1265 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 2: they were using it as a computer room instead. I 1266 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: would help them move. They agreed that it was a 1267 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 2: good idea. My dad informed me that he still wanted 1268 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 2: to work and build up up what he could after 1269 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: breaking out of the habit of gambling. I told them 1270 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 2: that I would be taking charge of his finances and 1271 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 2: regulating what they spent on what, and he agreed it 1272 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: was fine. Once the money talk was over and done with, 1273 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: we talked a bit more and my mom again suggested 1274 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: that she was interested in my family, including my wife. 1275 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 2: I told them that I may allow them to meet 1276 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: my family in the future, but for now they were 1277 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: still basically strangers to my family and I again, and 1278 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: we had to work on the relationship before I allowed 1279 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 2: them to enter my current family, which very fair. Very fair. 1280 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they should be on pretty 1281 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: thin ice. 1282 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are on probation first. 1283 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: Sea again, iPhone lockscreen method, you know, help them a 1284 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: little bit, give them a time out for a month 1285 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 1: if they act the same two months. 1286 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 2: We left on amicable terms. Afterward, I called my sister 1287 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 2: and told her what transpired and that I expected to 1288 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 2: go half and half on helping the parents. She said 1289 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 2: it was fine to go sixty forty instead, with her 1290 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: paying the sixty because she felt a bit responsible that 1291 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 2: she wasn't there for my parents to try to break 1292 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 2: them out of their gambling because she was really busy. 1293 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 2: She was going to visit my parents on Thanksgiving anyway, 1294 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: so I decided that she should bring her husband and 1295 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: the time after Thanksgiving would be when we moved the 1296 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 2: house around for my parents. I will be spending Thanksgiving 1297 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 2: with my family, but will go down to my parents' 1298 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 2: house afterward to help move things around. And by the way, 1299 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 2: you can help us by listening to more full episodes 1300 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: with stories just like this. Just go to Apple Podcasts, 1301 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 2: Spotify or your favorite podcast app. I'd set a. 1302 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: Storyta and listen to us for forty seven straight days. 1303 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: Forty seven straight days. 1304 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: Not twenty four hour days. 1305 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 3: You can do that, accounting. It's still it's growing, it's 1306 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 3: growing every day, and so you might as well. You 1307 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 3: might as well. 1308 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: Get at it. Okay, but there is a little bit 1309 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 2: left to this story. When everything was settled, I spoke 1310 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: to my wife again and she agreed with what was 1311 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 2: decided and said that she was actually glad that it 1312 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 2: ended up how it did. The reason she was hesitant 1313 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 2: to say no firmly for was because she thought I 1314 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 2: might regret it because of my personality. She is glad 1315 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 2: that I'm not spending a huge amount of money on 1316 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: my parents. However, she's looking forward to the day that 1317 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: you finally meets my parents when I decide it is 1318 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: a good time. I hope that my son is able 1319 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 2: to develop a good relationship with my parents as he 1320 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,479 Speaker 2: does with my wife's parents. All in all, it ended well, 1321 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: no revenge, no hate, just helping each other out. 1322 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: I feel like Op is pretty well adjusted for having 1323 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: terrible parents. 1324 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 2: More sentence, We'll see what the future holds for the 1325 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 2: relationship between my parents and I. Okay, now you talk. 1326 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: I feel like well adjusted for for having those terrible parents. 1327 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, like it's uh. 1328 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 2: Because it doesn't. 1329 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: It's came out so good. 1330 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 2: I would say, like Op's not going on the one 1331 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 2: side of kind of being like no f you guys, 1332 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,479 Speaker 2: I never want to see you again, but it's also 1333 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: not going like I'll do whatever you guys want. Yeah, 1334 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 2: Like has somehow like met in that middle of being like, okay, 1335 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,240 Speaker 2: you know what, I'll help you out, which I feel 1336 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 2: like boundary. 1337 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: It shows a massive side of maturity exactly exactly. 1338 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 3: Hey, it's John, your og host. 1339 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: Here. 1340 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 3: We're going to get back to the stories. But here's 1341 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 3: a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 1342 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: My sister's wedding is stressful, and I set them for 1343 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 1: it a we in doubt. Just my sister Anne is 1344 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,439 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. We are three years apart. I'm 1345 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: twenty six. She got engaged in the fall of twenty 1346 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty two to a very sweet man thirty two years old. 1347 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: A good man, a good man, lots of page. Is 1348 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: a good man. He's a solid man, a good chap, 1349 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: they might say. And we'll call him George by Gorge 1350 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: by the way. This comes from Adwin Indigo And if 1351 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: you want to submit your own stories, go to our 1352 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: slash Okay story time subout it so family dynamic and circumstances. 1353 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: We're getting some backstory. And came back to live with 1354 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: our parents last fall after college. We live in Tennessee. 1355 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: We are a family of eight, so it. 1356 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: Can be a bit crowded. 1357 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: It's a big family. 1358 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: Well that is that is actually a big family. I 1359 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: had also recently graduated and moved back with my junk wol. 1360 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: I felt this was my cue to move out and 1361 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: help my family, have some space all my stuff and 1362 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: move to my own apartment about twenty to thirty minutes 1363 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: away from my parents. Her fiance goal George, went back 1364 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: to New Jersey to find a place for them to 1365 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: live after they're married. They're staying pure up till their 1366 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: wedding night. Alrighty, they're gonna bust so quick then, Yeah, 1367 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be so good. That's funny. It's January twenty 1368 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty three and they haven't picked a date yet. They're 1369 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: super triceratopsy for each other, so they have to get 1370 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: married asap because they can't. They're trying to jump each 1371 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: other's bones right now while Gorge is in New Jersey 1372 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: and misses him something awful. 1373 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 2: Wow, Gorgeous in New Jersey and misses him something awful. 1374 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: It's been a fortnight since I've seen you last, my dear. 1375 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 2: God, jump each other's bones. 1376 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: Anyway, she can't even think straight. She gets an interview 1377 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: for a job in New Jersey and gets accepted for it, 1378 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: so she does wind up moving over there. Yes, they're 1379 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: still living separately. What that's cool? Wedding stuff. It rolls 1380 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: around to February and they keep changing their minds about 1381 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: the date. Finally they pick the last weekend in May. 1382 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 2: The last weekend in May, since Anne. 1383 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: It's arranged, since Anne has moved to New Jersey. That 1384 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: leaves our mother to do all the wedding planning and organizing. 1385 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: Our mother isn't being super controlling about it. Anne has 1386 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a learning disability on top of 1387 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,919 Speaker 1: having difficulty reading, she easily gets overwhelmed by stuff. There's 1388 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: no way Anne can play a wedding by herself, little 1389 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: old and that just gids. She gets swept away by 1390 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: any gorge that walks her away. I'm just a little lady. 1391 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: She's hysterical. 1392 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: Take it to the doctor. I heard they have new 1393 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: tripment for stuff like that. 1394 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 2: Locked in a room until the yellow wallpaper. 1395 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: Starts moving, and Mom is happy to help. Because Anne 1396 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: and Gorge picked out so late. It's a holiday weekend, 1397 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: there are no venues open, you idiots. They decided to 1398 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: have the service and reception at her old home church. 1399 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: All the footwork to check all the venues and find 1400 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: out they wear bucks and help for none of this 1401 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: except to give approval well, and is historically hysterical. 1402 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: So it's called delegation. 1403 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: It's called delegation. Maybe she's the business woman in a 1404 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: budding business. 1405 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Time to do the minusha. 1406 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: No, she's only had time to write the gorgeous muddy letters. 1407 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: In the months leading up to the wedding, our mother 1408 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: spent most of her time searching for and buying decorations. 1409 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: The church does not have wedding decorations, anything that goes 1410 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: into planning a wedding. Our mother did. Mom designed and 1411 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: printed the invitations. Oh Taylor, the wedding dress. Ha, and 1412 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: is making sleeves, please, sleeves. 1413 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 3: On a wedding dress. 1414 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh lord, Oh my goodness, it's gonna take forever. That's 1415 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the sewing machine. She's gonna have to do it. Oh 1416 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: my god. 1417 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 2: She must be got to May. I don't know what 1418 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 2: month it is, but that's awfully soon. 1419 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Awfully so. She has to make dinner every single I 1420 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know how she's gonna do it. Both parents are 1421 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: making all the food for the reception, and I'll be 1422 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: helping her make icing flowers and making the grooms cake. 1423 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's gonna be his own cake. 1424 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I'll be helping her make icing flowers and making the 1425 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: grooms cake. I also spray painted some of the wedding 1426 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: decorations and in the church. 1427 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Let's see what this looks like. 1428 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: That's a little I can't imagine that lyrics good. I declare, 1429 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna make me hysterical. Pass from the vapors like 1430 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: a hot Georgia day sitting rocket iatient. 1431 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 2: It's pretty easy to pass out in church. 1432 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should. 1433 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of circulation in the church, and you're 1434 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: also wearing really nice clothes and with. 1435 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 2: Sleeve and you're seeing a lot, and you're standing a lot, 1436 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: and you're doing up and down and down. Easy to 1437 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 2: pass out in church. 1438 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: I also spray painted of the wedding decorations and took 1439 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: care of others. I also volunteered to do Anne's hair 1440 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and make up for her. One of our brothers is 1441 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: doing the photography for free, and no, none of us 1442 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: do these things professionally except her brother, who is a 1443 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: professional photographer. Nice. The day she flew down, our whole 1444 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: family was at church, sweeping, mopping, cleaning out the fridge, 1445 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: is taking care of the draping on the walls, putting 1446 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: out tables, et cetera. This is a family affair. Yeah, 1447 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 1: this is kind of uniting the whole family. 1448 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would want like a close 1449 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 2: like an immediate family member to do like photography or 1450 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 2: something like that, because I would want them to enjoy 1451 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 2: the day. I feel like that's like that's a bit 1452 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: pretty big. 1453 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Or you make sure they're always watching the important moments, 1454 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, she was supposed to help with some 1455 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: of that, but I don't think she's been planning to. 1456 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Now that Anne's here, she's been staying in my apartment 1457 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: because her little sister is sick and we don't want 1458 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: to risk the bride catching something before her big day. 1459 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Couldn't possibly. I don't really mind, because this is a 1460 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: big deal. It gives us a chance to catch up too. 1461 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Then she keeps asking me to do a bunch of 1462 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: little things for her, Like she'll lay down and then 1463 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: want me to get a glass of water, a snack, 1464 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: et cetera, and make her coffee and breakfast. She leaves lights. 1465 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: It takes two to three long showers a day. Okay, 1466 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: so she's like, two to three. 1467 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Long showers a day. What's she doing. 1468 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 3: She's she's cleaning. 1469 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: She's cleaning, she's leasing some stress. Two to three long 1470 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: showers a day, and she hasn't been able to jump 1471 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the bones. 1472 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 3: About saying that's what I'm saying. 1473 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, what we're saying. That's what we're saying. We're all 1474 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: saying the same thing. We're high minded it. She pays 1475 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: no mind to the little rules I have, example, drying 1476 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: her hands on my face, towel ruining my bar of 1477 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: soap or walking around the apartments, totally in the way 1478 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: God has presented her at birth when I have a 1479 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: window open, getting mad at me, even though I told 1480 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: her that I open a window, what the day, AND's 1481 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,479 Speaker 1: freaking out. She's turned into that Bridezilla, into her final form, 1482 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: saying she too nervous to wear makeup and she doesn't 1483 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: want to wear any makeup at all except for some lipsticks. 1484 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: That's your own prerogative. I calmly tell her that it's fine, 1485 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: but let's try out just for fun one night. If 1486 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: you don't like it, it's no skin off my nose. 1487 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: If you do, great, But she hasn't text me back, 1488 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: and I think she's offended and low key at melting down. 1489 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Look if she doesn't want makeup, and it's one less 1490 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: thing for me to worry about. Months ago, I asked 1491 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: her if she want to make up, and she said 1492 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit would be good, but she didn't know 1493 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: how to apply it. And that's when I volunteered, because 1494 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I'd love for her to look her Sunday best feel 1495 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: beautiful in photos. Already bought her foundation and things I 1496 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 1: just wish I hadn't already spent the money if she 1497 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: truly didn't want it. Makeup makeup free? How much is 1498 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: a makeup? I don't know. 1499 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: I don't buy a lot of makeup. 1500 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: You have a makeup. 1501 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 2: I feel like on the cheaper end you can get 1502 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 2: like nice eyeshadow for like thirty bucks. 1503 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: That's expensive. 1504 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 2: It's like on the cheaper ends. 1505 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: And how long is that left? 1506 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 2: And that's like like that big? 1507 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh is that big? Is that small? No, that's small. 1508 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: It's expensive. 1509 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you that big expensive. 1510 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I just wish I hadn't spent all the money if 1511 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: she truly didn't want it. Optional backup story about the 1512 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: makeup and the very anti makeup kind of Gaal occasionally 1513 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: she wears lipstick in the past. She's even seen me 1514 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: wearing makeup even though it's a natural look, and she 1515 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: harps on me, that's ridiculous. Yeah, she doesn't like it, 1516 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: so I shouldn't wear it either. It's bad for my 1517 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: skin and whatnot. I just don't think there's any harm 1518 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: in covering up dark circles and wearing it occasionally. 1519 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 2: There ain't any harm, and she should mind her own business. 1520 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Months ago, I asked what she was planning for the bridesmaids, 1521 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: and she only mentioned dresses and flower hair clips. Cool, 1522 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: jewelry looks pretty, but it's not for me. Well, we're 1523 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: both adults now, so I thought we'd grown past all 1524 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: the pettiness. No, you were wrong. Plus it was a 1525 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: long time ago. I mean, who cares. I just let 1526 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: it go, and I didn't even remember till today. But 1527 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: this morning she got stuck her tongue out at me 1528 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and said she was making me jewelry and I had 1529 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,919 Speaker 1: to wear it. Okay, weird At the moment, I didn't 1530 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: say anything and just finished making her tea. I guess 1531 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal. Wear some bling 1532 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: for a few hours and I can take it off. No, biggie, 1533 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: it just rubs me the wrong way that she's rubbing 1534 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: this in my face so hard. Just more important things 1535 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: to worry about. She's making this jewelry right now, Like, 1536 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: of all the things to ensure that this wedding goes smoothly, 1537 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: the jewelry, the jewelry needs to be perfect. 1538 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, he's like, are you sure we shouldn't focus on 1539 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 2: like maybe like the day and making sure that you 1540 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 2: have all the decorations. 1541 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: She's like, now, and she starts making that friendship bracelet 1542 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: jewelry that's everything. There's a lot more important things to 1543 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: do worry about than freaking jewelry right now, and she 1544 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: still doesn't have her own shoes or any flowers. It out, 1545 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Why bring up stuff from our childhood? I may have 1546 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: missed an important part. I'm gonna hit this backstory really. 1547 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Cuse it's optional. 1548 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: It was optional, but it turns out it wasn't optional, 1549 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back to the backstory. Ever since 1550 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: we were a little kid, and she always was trying 1551 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: to force me to wear jewelry that I had my 1552 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: ears pierced one day, and as a little kid, the 1553 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: texture of jewelry just felt weird to me and I 1554 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: didn't like it. And also used to tell me if 1555 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: she couldn't make me wear stuff, then she'd force me 1556 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: to wear it at her future wedding and I could 1557 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: never be a true woman if I don't wore any 1558 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: I just shrugged it off and said I wouldn't be 1559 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: her bridesmaid or whatever. She used to paint me as 1560 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the to our mother whenever I wouldn't wear jewelry. Okay, 1561 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: so this jewelry beef goes. 1562 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 2: So she's really into her jewelry. 1563 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 1: She's really she just really controlling. 1564 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 2: She's like, you can't wear makeup because I don't wear makeup. 1565 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: You have to wear jewelry because I were jewelry. 1566 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to be matching out our wedding. You I 1567 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: wear white, you were wet. 1568 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: And then'pe shows up when and she's like, why would 1569 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 2: you wear white to my wedding? 1570 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: And is getting frustrated with me about some other things. 1571 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's simply because I'm not 1572 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: communicating things clearly enough, or if I'm just creating problems 1573 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: and needlessly stressing her out. The information can't handle, example, 1574 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: making conversations about anything not wedding related. On a slightly 1575 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: different note, my mother is understandably very overwhelmed with everything. 1576 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: She keeps asking me to clean up the house, which 1577 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: is completely cluttered with wedding stuff. I need to clean 1578 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: up everyone's dishes, sweep and mop the house, sort through 1579 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Anne's wedding stuff. What is Anne even doing? But you 1580 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: know what you should always sort through is our podcast 1581 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime, which you can search up wherever you get 1582 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Need to listen to us twenty four to 1583 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: seven into your ear. 1584 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 2: Holes all seven. 1585 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I'll absolutely do what I can to make things eat. 1586 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: You're for mom, but I also have to do those 1587 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: things at my own apartment. I moved out and have 1588 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: my own life now I have my own responsibilities to 1589 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: take care of. Mom is doing all this major wedding 1590 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: planning because An hasn't done a thing and has it 1591 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 1: lifted a frickin finger. At what point does OP just 1592 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, take a step back and say no more, 1593 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: this is on you. 1594 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Enough is enough. 1595 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I am done. Honestly, you have crossed my boundaries. I mean, 1596 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's getting to the point. 1597 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, it's getting there. It's like it's certainly getting. 1598 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: You are being way too demanding. You need to take 1599 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 1: a step back. You take two steps back. Although a 1600 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: parent's child is never well, it's never too old to 1601 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: do the dishes at their parents, Like, I get that, 1602 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: But now I even have a guess at my place 1603 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: and I majorally need to sweep them up my own apartment. 1604 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 1: But I'm too busy at my parents to catch up 1605 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,719 Speaker 1: in time updates. I am now going to be hosting 1606 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: a little get together with the other two bridesmaids because 1607 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: my parents' place is a mess, so I absolutely must 1608 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: get my place cleaned up. I have no idea what 1609 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: we'll do. Maybe I can bring some board games over, 1610 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: we can watch TV, who knows, but yeah, basically, OPI 1611 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: is getting spread thin, spread to the max. Uh question 1612 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: for the spread dinner than a crape? Amen? But that's 1613 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: the end of that story.