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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: We're live here in New York City. It's Thursday, April twentieth.

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Speaker 2: You are right.

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Speaker 3: That means it is Peter Schrager's birthday. I'm jamieard On,

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Speaker 3: Kyle Brant birthday boy, Jason mccordy.

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Speaker 2: He led the show one.

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Speaker 3: Peter Scheger did by informing us and it was his birthday,

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Speaker 3: hoping that that would be the only time that we

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Speaker 4: It is not.

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Speaker 5: No, he wasn't hoping it would be the only time.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to get it out of the way so

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Speaker 7: we could talk football. We got melk Typer on today.

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Speaker 7: That is the ultimate berthin we do.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 3: Our gift in the third hour of the show to

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Speaker 3: you is three guests that we get to talk to

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Speaker 3: and we get to unearth a lot of the they're

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Speaker 3: all over zoom they are, they are, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Also a spicy rendition of throw itdown Thursday. So let's

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Speaker 3: roll nine am on Thursday. Let's throw down play. If

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Speaker 3: people get in the NFL, it's inevitable someday your replacement

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Speaker 3: will walk through that door. Jason has told us that

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Speaker 3: when he was playing and the drafts would come by,

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Speaker 3: he would check to see if his position got drafted in.

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Speaker 2: The first round. He was safe for a year. Back

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Speaker 2: to work and you're good.

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Speaker 3: Oh, when you play quarterback, it's likely that you'll see

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Speaker 3: them stroll across the draft stage, hug Roger Goodell and

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Speaker 3: then walk right into your quarterback room.

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Speaker 2: Throw it down.

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Speaker 3: Number one is who should be keeping a closer eye

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Speaker 3: on Round one next week we're cousins of the Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Vikings or New England Patriots quarterback Mac Jones, Peter good.

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Speaker 1: One, Jamie.

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Speaker 7: It's a good one. Vikings quarterback situation is very unique

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Speaker 7: five million dollars. They could have extended it this year,

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Speaker 7: they opted not to. They kind of decaid, let's just

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Speaker 7: the end of the season.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't mean Cousins isn't the long.

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Speaker 7: Term answer in Minnesota, but where they're sitting in those

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Speaker 7: meaning you might not expect it, but wow, Anthony Richardson's

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Speaker 7: there at twenty three.

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Speaker 7: Will Levis is there at twenty three. Ooh, Hendon Hooker's

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Speaker 7: there at twenty three. There's no pressure for any of

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Speaker 7: these quarterbacks to play in Minnesota. We've got Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 7: We like Kirk Cousins, but we have him for one year.

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Speaker 7: If I'm Kirk Cousins, I'm keeping a side eye on

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Speaker 7: what they do with that first round pick. Mac Jones, Look,

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Speaker 7: Bailey ZAPPI was talk last year. At this point, you've

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Speaker 7: got to be alert at all hours, at all times.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's just the NFL Draft. I think

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Speaker 7: you have to wake up every night and wonder if

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Speaker 7: Trey Lance has been traded to your team. I feel

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Speaker 7: like Mac Jones is keeping his eyes wide open. But

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Speaker 7: if you're Kirk Cousins Draft night, and then if they

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Speaker 7: don't take a quarterback, you go back to bed, you

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Speaker 7: go back to the farm, you go back to whatever

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Speaker 7: you do, and you'll be just fine.

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Speaker 5: From Kirk Cousins Draft night, I might be on vacation

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Speaker 5: somewhere with my family spending the money of me. If

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Speaker 5: I think it's Mac Jones who's looking at the first

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Speaker 5: don't expect the Patriots to go back to the first

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Speaker 5: Zappi's behind me, but I feel like it's my job

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Speaker 5: to lose. As long as I go out there and perform,

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Speaker 5: I'll be the starting quarterback. You bring a first round

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Speaker 2: I'm triggered.

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Speaker 1: Why Peter thinks Kirk Cousins is on a farm.

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Speaker 6: What are you talking about from?

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Speaker 1: He's from originally born in Chicago and then moved to

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Speaker 1: that's more of the stereotype and caricature of Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 2: I'm triggered yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to take the heat off typical. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're better than that on your birthday.

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Speaker 6: I think it's Mac Jones.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The simple reason is, like Kirk Cousins is way better

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Speaker 1: saying that. My my pinky keeps tinkling, tinkling when like

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Speaker 1: I feel like every time the Patriots come out, I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to do something nuclear in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is yet, but whether it

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Speaker 1: that Bell Belichick just fell in love with. I just

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Speaker 1: can't see them sitting. They were are thy, Peter. They're

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Speaker 1: at fourteen. It's a fine pick sort of right there

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Speaker 1: I just think like everyone's closing in and the empire's

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Speaker 1: do something outlandish to keep it alive. Not stupid, just aggressive.

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Speaker 7: Actually it's actually interesting because I had the fifteenth pick

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Speaker 7: and it took the fifth quarterback in that draft, and

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Speaker 7: then settle for the fifth quarter? I don't know, or

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Speaker 7: do they do what.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, saying, go and get your guy, yeah, or look,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna sit around.

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Speaker 4: I got fourteenth best player, we got a safety.

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Speaker 1: We feel good.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think it's gonna happen like that guy

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Speaker 2: Is the one that does the arm wrestling for that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't think he's a Day one pick.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean wait till the that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: What you just said, yeah, go wait and get Tyson

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Speaker 3: Beages right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Patriots have a lot of picks.

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Speaker 3: They have they have one in each the first three,

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of picks. It's to dole out.

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Speaker 3: If they wanted to trade both of these logos, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. They're still on my Lamar Jackson list. They

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Speaker 3: really still are. And if you're going to trade straight up,

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Speaker 3: maybe the macdosing, but a Kirk Cousins for Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: trade for for two first round picks to change up

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Speaker 3: the way your offense is played, the direction your I

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Speaker 3: was on the show a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 3: I said, if you keep doing the same things, how

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Speaker 3: round of the playoffs. You make it there, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Do you want something different to be your outcome? I

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Speaker 3: think the same could be said for what Mac Jones

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Speaker 3: don't know those two are still on my list for

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson potential. Our second throwdown takes us back in

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Speaker 3: time to consecutive years of quarterback drama in the green

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Speaker 3: room in two thousand and four, Eli Manning did not

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Speaker 3: did not want to be selected first overall by the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and five, Aaron Rodgers just wanted to go.

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Speaker 3: You wanted to hear his name called. Both were their

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Speaker 3: they were feeling. Here's the question, who had the more

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Speaker 3: memorable draft face?

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Speaker 6: Really are?

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Speaker 3: Was it Eli and four saying I cannot blue up

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Speaker 3: heard my name called Peter more memorable.

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Speaker 2: Draft face and if you want to recreate it, that's fine.

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Speaker 7: Memorable draft face. The Rogers thing was excruciating, excruciating faces.

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Speaker 2: I think that you have him is excruciating.

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Speaker 7: That was like uncomfortable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, it was shorter though, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But it was Eli holding up that Chargers thame was

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Speaker 1: So the deal was Eli, let it be known, I

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Speaker 1: will not play for the Chargers, even though they have

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Speaker 6: I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: And the Charger said, we don't care. We're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: you anyway. Then we're gonna trade you. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hold up that dam came out on the stage and

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Speaker 1: everything there is. He knows he did not want to play.

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Speaker 2: The parents come out. Are you not thrilled?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were on record, don't draft us, Like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're drafting you the first overall, number one overall.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't happening.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 7: And guess what probably made the right decision, went two

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Speaker 7: Super Bowls with the Giants, one of the most beloved

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Speaker 7: New York athletes of all time.

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Speaker 1: When you have the leverage to do that, it's great.

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Speaker 7: Rogers, though, Rogers is more memorable because he goes I'm

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Speaker 7: doing four MVPs and there's a famous clip from a

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Speaker 7: and obviously he's gonna make all these different teams, including

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Speaker 7: the forty nine Ers. He's gonna get their revenge. I

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Speaker 7: think the Rogers with the jailed hair looking very two

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Speaker 7: thousand and five Rogers is more memorable than the Eli thing,

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Speaker 7: which was just uncomfortable.

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Speaker 5: It is tough to compare because there was so many

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Speaker 5: faces of Rogers, like at one point he's just like

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Speaker 5: when it goes through and Eli was that uncomfortable moment

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Speaker 5: and there's a few picks later he's traded, But I

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Speaker 5: still think it's Eli Manning. I mean, think about this

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Speaker 5: week is leading up to the draft, and you're saying, like,

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Speaker 5: do not draft me, I do not want to play here,

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Speaker 5: double down, never gave a reason, and then they call

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Speaker 5: your name. You've dreamed about this being drafted in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: let alone, going number one, and you are not hiding it.

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Speaker 5: You're not pretending to be happy and hey, we'll figure

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Speaker 5: it out later. You are letting it be null like

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Speaker 5: San Diego if you even thought of that. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: take it as a number one pick and I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: show up and be ready to play, you know, right instantly,

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Speaker 5: as he said, my name is not going down. So

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Speaker 1: I just like I look at that the Rogers draft

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it also that the Mannings as a corporation, if

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to do this, And that was

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Speaker 2: They heard it. It's been the call has been put out.

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Speaker 6: I don't care that I love you. I love you.

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Speaker 2: It's a thick amount.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing it for you, Peter, but I'm also doing

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Speaker 3: it's Mikyle's Hey, we're back with good running football and

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Speaker 3: It's time to continue our Next Gen Chats series where

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Speaker 3: NFL Stars or X. Guest is a national champion from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: He played fifty four games the Crimson Tide. Please welcome

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 6: How y'are doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: We're great.

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Speaker 3: We love your laugh, we love your smile. Let's talk

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Speaker 3: about your game. You are one week away from the

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Speaker 3: start of the NFL Draft. You've had the whole experience

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Speaker 3: since your college time ended, you a Senior Bowl, combine

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Speaker 8: You know, it's been It's been a long process. Really,

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Speaker 6: My life, and I mean it has been so far,

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Speaker 6: You know, there's been a lot of moving parts and

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Speaker 8: Having fun right now. You know, I've been busy, but

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Speaker 6: That's cool.

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Speaker 5: And you're right about it being long. You go from

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Speaker 6: It was a great man. It was a great Bryce

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Speaker 8: We're close to both of our initias will be young Man,

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Speaker 8: Bryce is a great guy. But playing against him was

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Speaker 8: But man, he's a great guy and he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: See, that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: There's a Brant Young also who is a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer now plays your same position, and be young is

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Speaker 1: Just be young, and it embrace that while you can.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime we here be young that you have

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Speaker 6: So every single every single week.

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Speaker 8: We would have steak pasta, roles and things like that,

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Speaker 7: You know, once twice a week, you know, we're having

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think, like you said, it is

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Speaker 1: We are fired up at the table right now. Do

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Speaker 1: welcome to the one, the Only mal Kai Petunia. What's

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Speaker 9: It's been a while a long time doing this.

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Speaker 1: And I know you know that nineteen seventy nine draft

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Speaker 1: we dive right in in no waste in time. We're

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Speaker 1: going to the twenty twenty three draft class, starting with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Do what you do in your latest mock draft.

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Speaker 1: You have four quarterbacks going with the first four picks.

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Speaker 1: You know it. It has never happened before in the

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Speaker 9: back up there and get a quarterback, as Buffalo did

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Speaker 9: with Josh Allen going from twelve to seven and the

440
00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,708
Speaker 9: Bears did with Justin Field's going from twenty to eleven.

441
00:17:44,748 --> 00:17:46,788
Speaker 9: So it doesn't look like that's going to happen. But

442
00:17:46,828 --> 00:17:50,468
Speaker 9: the interesting part now will be what quarterback slide to do,

443
00:17:50,668 --> 00:17:52,708
Speaker 9: what teams move up to get them. So I think

444
00:17:52,708 --> 00:17:55,268
Speaker 9: it's going to be more entertaining if it doesn't go

445
00:17:55,388 --> 00:17:57,148
Speaker 9: that way, and it looks like, according to Adam Schefter,

446
00:17:57,228 --> 00:17:58,948
Speaker 9: it will not go that way, which is what we

447
00:17:58,988 --> 00:18:01,348
Speaker 9: all want. We want surprise, we want a little mystery,

448
00:18:01,388 --> 00:18:03,868
Speaker 9: and we want a lot of excitement come next Thursday.

449
00:18:05,068 --> 00:18:05,508
Speaker 5: We sure do.

450
00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:09,868
Speaker 7: Mel You know, I have a childhood home in Frei,

451
00:18:09,988 --> 00:18:12,308
Speaker 7: New Jersey, and I've got these little blue books that

452
00:18:12,388 --> 00:18:15,268
Speaker 7: I used to order online and they were called melkiper

453
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Speaker 7: Junior's Draft Report. I remember the ninety six one with

454
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Speaker 7: Keyshawan on. I remember the two thousand LaVar Arrington on

455
00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:25,028
Speaker 7: the cover. You used to self publish a draft guide

456
00:18:25,108 --> 00:18:27,348
Speaker 7: before it was all over the magazine stands at the

457
00:18:27,388 --> 00:18:30,868
Speaker 7: Hudson News and was everybody's mock draft online. When you

458
00:18:30,908 --> 00:18:33,748
Speaker 7: first started in seventy nine with the draft report, what

459
00:18:33,868 --> 00:18:34,268
Speaker 7: got you.

460
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Speaker 1: Going and where were you in your life? Like where

461
00:18:36,308 --> 00:18:36,868
Speaker 1: did it come from?

462
00:18:36,868 --> 00:18:38,828
Speaker 7: Where You're like, I'm going to put out this report

463
00:18:39,108 --> 00:18:41,468
Speaker 7: from me here in Baltimore putting this out here.

464
00:18:43,028 --> 00:18:45,268
Speaker 9: Peter was in Calvert, had Calvert Hall of the High

465
00:18:45,268 --> 00:18:47,748
Speaker 9: School back in the seventies. I just felt like watching

466
00:18:47,788 --> 00:18:50,028
Speaker 9: football and the studying it and wanting to coach or

467
00:18:50,068 --> 00:18:52,668
Speaker 9: scout that there was no way to improve your team.

468
00:18:52,708 --> 00:18:55,068
Speaker 9: Then there was no trades, there was no free agency.

469
00:18:55,148 --> 00:18:56,788
Speaker 9: It was the draft. If you're gonna get member of

470
00:18:56,868 --> 00:18:59,188
Speaker 9: seventeen rounds back in those days, guys, and it became

471
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Speaker 9: twelve rounds. There are a ton of players were drafted,

472
00:19:01,908 --> 00:19:04,628
Speaker 9: but fans didn't have access to any information. You were

473
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Speaker 9: only getting one to two college football games televised on

474
00:19:07,588 --> 00:19:09,628
Speaker 9: a Saturday. You certainly couldn't see any of the small

475
00:19:09,668 --> 00:19:12,308
Speaker 9: college players, so most fans didn't have a clue who

476
00:19:12,308 --> 00:19:14,668
Speaker 9: these players were when they were drafted by their team.

477
00:19:14,908 --> 00:19:17,508
Speaker 9: So I felt like, Okay, fans will crave this type

478
00:19:17,508 --> 00:19:19,668
Speaker 9: of information. Ernie, of course, who was a great friend

479
00:19:19,668 --> 00:19:21,908
Speaker 9: of mine, really encouraged me to do it back in

480
00:19:21,988 --> 00:19:24,268
Speaker 9: the seventies when I was a sixteen year old kid

481
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Speaker 9: out a Colt camp while watching the Baltimore Colts practices.

482
00:19:27,228 --> 00:19:29,748
Speaker 9: So Ernie was really a push, but behind that, it

483
00:19:29,788 --> 00:19:32,508
Speaker 9: gave me a reason to keep it going, and certainly

484
00:19:32,828 --> 00:19:35,508
Speaker 9: that was really the start of it. Nineteen seventy eight

485
00:19:35,548 --> 00:19:38,308
Speaker 9: college football season, nineteen seventy nine NFL Draft. I was

486
00:19:38,348 --> 00:19:40,668
Speaker 9: eighteen years old at the time. I was doing twenty

487
00:19:40,748 --> 00:19:43,788
Speaker 9: five radio shows a guy a day, then Guys and Everybody.

488
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Speaker 9: The host of those shows thought I was about forty

489
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Speaker 9: forty five years old. I was eighteen nineteen years old.

490
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Speaker 9: They had no idea. Nobody asked me. Nobody ever asked

491
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Speaker 9: me what my age was. But I was eighteen nineteen

492
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Speaker 9: doing twenty five radio shows a day.

493
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Speaker 3: Amazing, and they never should because you have the same

494
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Speaker 3: zest I'm sure to say that you do when you

495
00:20:00,548 --> 00:20:01,748
Speaker 3: were eighteen years older in this smell.

496
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Speaker 2: This is really awesome.

497
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Speaker 3: I have to imagine, though, over the years and all

498
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Speaker 3: of your interactions with coaches and gms, that your relationships

499
00:20:09,468 --> 00:20:12,308
Speaker 3: there must be incredible, but some of the conversations over

500
00:20:12,308 --> 00:20:14,908
Speaker 3: the years must have been very challenging too. Do you

501
00:20:14,988 --> 00:20:17,948
Speaker 3: have a story that comes to mind with a specific

502
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Speaker 3: relationship that stands out to you in terms of maybe

503
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Speaker 3: a favorite guy to deal with, but also someone who said, listen.

504
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Speaker 2: Here me, I want to give you a piece of

505
00:20:24,988 --> 00:20:27,948
Speaker 2: my mind, Jamie.

506
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Speaker 6: That's great question.

507
00:20:28,988 --> 00:20:31,628
Speaker 9: I've had so many friends that you develop over the years.

508
00:20:32,548 --> 00:20:36,188
Speaker 9: Some are still great friends of mine. They've remained that way,

509
00:20:36,628 --> 00:20:38,828
Speaker 9: Ernie of Corsi being the main one. And Ernie would

510
00:20:38,868 --> 00:20:41,428
Speaker 9: always let me know he would never lie to me.

511
00:20:41,548 --> 00:20:44,028
Speaker 9: Never I was unknown earn since I was sixteen years old.

512
00:20:44,068 --> 00:20:46,628
Speaker 9: He knew if he told me something in confidence, I'm

513
00:20:46,628 --> 00:20:48,908
Speaker 9: not telling anybody. And I remember we were doing a

514
00:20:48,908 --> 00:20:51,788
Speaker 9: sports center cut in one year. Ernie told me, wait

515
00:20:51,868 --> 00:20:53,508
Speaker 9: till we're on the clock because we could end up

516
00:20:53,508 --> 00:20:55,388
Speaker 9: trading this pick. So when we're on the clock, do

517
00:20:55,468 --> 00:20:57,308
Speaker 9: what you got to do. And I remember you're doing

518
00:20:57,308 --> 00:20:59,108
Speaker 9: the sports center cutting. We got to the team. I said, hey,

519
00:20:59,108 --> 00:21:00,588
Speaker 9: i'll let you know in a few hours, and I

520
00:21:00,588 --> 00:21:02,988
Speaker 9: remember Freddie Gaveelli our producer, then said, no, you can't

521
00:21:03,028 --> 00:21:04,948
Speaker 9: be teasing the people. You got to let I said, Freddie,

522
00:21:05,028 --> 00:21:07,548
Speaker 9: I can't lose a friendship here over a sports center

523
00:21:07,548 --> 00:21:09,188
Speaker 9: cut in before the draft. You know what I was

524
00:21:09,188 --> 00:21:11,308
Speaker 9: talking about here. So I didn't say anything. And then

525
00:21:11,428 --> 00:21:13,228
Speaker 9: the pick came up, and I remember sitting with Boomer

526
00:21:13,228 --> 00:21:15,188
Speaker 9: and Boomer said, you think it'll be this guy said, nah,

527
00:21:15,188 --> 00:21:17,388
Speaker 9: I don't think so. I mean he's oh okay. He

528
00:21:17,428 --> 00:21:19,388
Speaker 9: was getting different information. So we're all kind of all

529
00:21:19,388 --> 00:21:21,148
Speaker 9: over the place. But Ernie was the one I could

530
00:21:21,148 --> 00:21:23,348
Speaker 9: always count on, you know. And I didn't even ask him.

531
00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:25,148
Speaker 9: I'd say, earned you have to tell me, Oh no,

532
00:21:25,308 --> 00:21:26,268
Speaker 9: just when we're on the clock.

533
00:21:26,588 --> 00:21:27,108
Speaker 2: We're fine.

534
00:21:27,148 --> 00:21:29,188
Speaker 9: But other than that, you know, keep it quiet, and

535
00:21:29,348 --> 00:21:31,868
Speaker 9: he knew if I ever betrayed that confidence, he never

536
00:21:31,868 --> 00:21:33,108
Speaker 9: talk to me again. This is one of my best

537
00:21:33,108 --> 00:21:35,108
Speaker 9: friends I've ever had. So guys like that have had

538
00:21:35,108 --> 00:21:37,228
Speaker 9: a lot of those that when they tell you something

539
00:21:37,228 --> 00:21:40,788
Speaker 9: and you don't tell anybody, and I think everybody knows

540
00:21:40,828 --> 00:21:42,668
Speaker 9: that all you guys have dealt with people, you can't

541
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Speaker 9: voice those types that type of information to anybody else,

542
00:21:45,828 --> 00:21:47,468
Speaker 9: so you can keep it in confidence.

543
00:21:47,508 --> 00:21:48,668
Speaker 2: And sometimes I don't even want to know.

544
00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:50,948
Speaker 9: I'd rather sometimes now say don't even tell me because

545
00:21:50,948 --> 00:21:53,108
Speaker 9: I don't even if I say something that you agree with,

546
00:21:53,508 --> 00:21:55,948
Speaker 9: then you will, you will know I didn't betray a confidence.

547
00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:57,948
Speaker 9: I decided to have it. So stuff right now. Over

548
00:21:57,988 --> 00:21:59,588
Speaker 9: the last maybe ten years, I don't even want to

549
00:21:59,628 --> 00:22:01,748
Speaker 9: know anything. I just didn't want to get there feeling

550
00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:03,628
Speaker 9: about other teams and what other teams in the league

551
00:22:03,628 --> 00:22:04,108
Speaker 9: may be doing.

552
00:22:05,428 --> 00:22:07,148
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't want to know anything. Just let me do

553
00:22:07,228 --> 00:22:08,868
Speaker 5: my thing. It's so cool to hear you talk and

554
00:22:08,908 --> 00:22:12,348
Speaker 5: tell stories and just mention legends like Fred Adelly Boomer

555
00:22:12,388 --> 00:22:14,748
Speaker 5: and saying all of these things and Kyle mentioned and

556
00:22:14,788 --> 00:22:17,308
Speaker 5: you talk about how you got started. Over forty years

557
00:22:17,308 --> 00:22:20,508
Speaker 5: of doing this. What's still motivating, what still drives you

558
00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:23,028
Speaker 5: to come out each and every year studying these players

559
00:22:23,148 --> 00:22:25,228
Speaker 5: and being able us to bring these great mob drafts

560
00:22:25,268 --> 00:22:25,948
Speaker 5: each and every year.

561
00:22:27,628 --> 00:22:30,428
Speaker 9: It's all new. It's every year is a different group

562
00:22:30,468 --> 00:22:32,388
Speaker 9: of players. You always look at it. As soon as

563
00:22:32,388 --> 00:22:34,708
Speaker 9: the draft's over, we're doing the look ahead to the

564
00:22:34,748 --> 00:22:37,988
Speaker 9: twenty twenty four draft. So it's all new, it's all exciting.

565
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Speaker 2: Every year is different.

566
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Speaker 9: Every year you look at there's new challenges, there's new players,

567
00:22:42,868 --> 00:22:45,788
Speaker 9: there's position groups that are a little stronger than other years.

568
00:22:45,788 --> 00:22:47,668
Speaker 9: So it's like I say, it's just like it's like

569
00:22:47,748 --> 00:22:49,988
Speaker 9: Christmas morning, but when you get the draft day, that's

570
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Speaker 9: what it is. That's why I like it. If there's

571
00:22:51,628 --> 00:22:54,228
Speaker 9: a mystery, I don't like knowing anything about what teams

572
00:22:54,268 --> 00:22:56,948
Speaker 9: will do. You don't want to know scripted one, two,

573
00:22:57,028 --> 00:22:58,628
Speaker 9: three is going to go this way? Well, plenty of

574
00:22:58,628 --> 00:23:00,748
Speaker 9: time to figure that all out once it happens. I

575
00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:03,788
Speaker 9: love to go in the next Thursday with everybody being

576
00:23:03,868 --> 00:23:06,788
Speaker 9: kind of the pick and not knowing anything, because that's

577
00:23:06,828 --> 00:23:08,908
Speaker 9: the fun part. That's the entertaining part of the draft.

578
00:23:10,588 --> 00:23:12,468
Speaker 1: You know, that's the entertaining part in the positive part.

579
00:23:12,508 --> 00:23:14,988
Speaker 1: There is a negative part for people in our industry,

580
00:23:15,028 --> 00:23:15,228
Speaker 1: and that.

581
00:23:15,308 --> 00:23:16,348
Speaker 6: Is being dead wrong.

582
00:23:16,468 --> 00:23:18,628
Speaker 1: Now, now let's get cards on the table here.

583
00:23:18,668 --> 00:23:19,388
Speaker 6: We've all done it.

584
00:23:19,388 --> 00:23:20,268
Speaker 9: Thanks con Peter.

585
00:23:20,548 --> 00:23:23,428
Speaker 1: Peter thought the Seahawks were crazy for taking Russell Wilson

586
00:23:23,428 --> 00:23:25,228
Speaker 1: because Matt Flynn was going to be the future there.

587
00:23:25,668 --> 00:23:27,908
Speaker 1: Last year, I'm sitting here saying the Giants should draft

588
00:23:27,988 --> 00:23:31,068
Speaker 1: Malik Willis in the first round. What is something over

589
00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:34,228
Speaker 1: your years, a pick or prognostication that still haunts you

590
00:23:34,268 --> 00:23:34,788
Speaker 1: to this day.

591
00:23:35,548 --> 00:23:37,468
Speaker 9: I've had a lot of them, believe me, we all have.

592
00:23:37,868 --> 00:23:39,428
Speaker 9: I think the one that lived is kind of an

593
00:23:39,468 --> 00:23:42,188
Speaker 9: infity for me. And mcshage reminds me of this every day.

594
00:23:42,228 --> 00:23:44,948
Speaker 9: Is Jimmy Clauson. I really thought Jimmy Clawson out of

595
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,268
Speaker 9: Notre Dame would be a really good NFL quarterback and

596
00:23:47,348 --> 00:23:49,868
Speaker 9: end up going to second round. And mcshae was not

597
00:23:49,948 --> 00:23:52,548
Speaker 9: high on Jimmy class and I was. And we had

598
00:23:52,548 --> 00:23:55,268
Speaker 9: a lot of arguments and debates about that, and yeah,

599
00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:57,348
Speaker 9: that's one that he throws out at me all the time.

600
00:23:57,348 --> 00:23:58,988
Speaker 9: There's been a lot of them over the years when

601
00:23:59,028 --> 00:24:00,708
Speaker 9: you look back on it, but that's the one it

602
00:24:00,788 --> 00:24:02,828
Speaker 9: jumps because it was a quarterback. It was Notre Dame.

603
00:24:02,868 --> 00:24:05,468
Speaker 9: That's my school. Loved Notre Dame. Thought Jimmy Claus would

604
00:24:05,468 --> 00:24:07,468
Speaker 9: be really good. So you know, again, you know, you

605
00:24:07,548 --> 00:24:08,908
Speaker 9: never know how this is going to go. I've had

606
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,868
Speaker 9: a lot of hits, a lot of misses. That's why

607
00:24:10,908 --> 00:24:12,868
Speaker 9: you do this. But you just hope that basically you

608
00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:15,708
Speaker 9: have an honest opinion. You're evaluating players. It's college to

609
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,868
Speaker 9: pro so it's tough to do that. It's not an

610
00:24:17,908 --> 00:24:20,148
Speaker 9: exact science. And look at all the NFL teams, with

611
00:24:20,268 --> 00:24:22,748
Speaker 9: all the information they have, they're going to make mistakes.

612
00:24:22,748 --> 00:24:24,868
Speaker 9: I always say fifty percent of the first rounders will

613
00:24:24,868 --> 00:24:27,028
Speaker 9: be disappointments when you really look back on it. So

614
00:24:27,468 --> 00:24:29,988
Speaker 9: the gems come one day three. That's why d Day

615
00:24:29,988 --> 00:24:32,148
Speaker 9: three to me is the fun part of the whole

616
00:24:32,188 --> 00:24:34,668
Speaker 9: process because a lot of these kids, they battle, they scratch,

617
00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:36,988
Speaker 9: they claw, they want to prove everybody wrong. And that's

618
00:24:37,308 --> 00:24:39,428
Speaker 9: that's as to me, Day three is as exciting as

619
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Speaker 9: any day one we've ever had.

620
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love it three.

621
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Speaker 7: Well, We've been doing a segment on our show all

622
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Speaker 7: week called Hot Draft Time Machine, where we were visit

623
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Speaker 7: some of the most memorable drafts in years past. Yeah,

624
00:24:53,508 --> 00:24:56,308
Speaker 7: I remember being, you know, in the building when the

625
00:24:56,388 --> 00:24:58,588
Speaker 7: Chiefs moved up to get Patrick Mahomes and that blew

626
00:24:58,628 --> 00:25:01,308
Speaker 7: our hairback. I remember when Baker Mayfield went first. Overall,

627
00:25:01,348 --> 00:25:03,348
Speaker 7: a lot of us didn't see that coming. Blew our hairback.

628
00:25:03,548 --> 00:25:05,748
Speaker 7: Of all the drafts you've covered, and you usually have

629
00:25:05,868 --> 00:25:08,428
Speaker 7: the answer key by the time draft day comes, what's

630
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:11,508
Speaker 7: the one selection that Eve threw even you off where

631
00:25:11,548 --> 00:25:14,108
Speaker 7: you were like, wow, I can't believe that actually just happened.

632
00:25:14,148 --> 00:25:16,068
Speaker 5: And why was that moment so memorable to you?

633
00:25:17,748 --> 00:25:18,388
Speaker 6: Really paid her?

634
00:25:18,388 --> 00:25:21,868
Speaker 9: Two thousand and three, when they kept passing, the Vikings

635
00:25:21,908 --> 00:25:24,668
Speaker 9: were picking and they passed, and then the card was

636
00:25:24,748 --> 00:25:26,548
Speaker 9: run up. I don't know. I think it was Jacksonville

637
00:25:26,548 --> 00:25:30,508
Speaker 9: with Byron Leftwitch and then no picks made and Minnesota's

638
00:25:30,548 --> 00:25:32,988
Speaker 9: passing and are not making a pick, and then Carolina

639
00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:35,668
Speaker 9: runs up and takes Jordan Gross and then the Ravens

640
00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,708
Speaker 9: are trying to fly up and take Terrell Suggs. But

641
00:25:37,828 --> 00:25:40,348
Speaker 9: right before that, Minnesota I think finally got their card

642
00:25:40,348 --> 00:25:43,588
Speaker 9: in to say Kevin Williams, defensive tackle from Oklahoma State.

643
00:25:43,628 --> 00:25:45,988
Speaker 9: And ironically, Kevin Williams turned out to be a heck

644
00:25:46,028 --> 00:25:47,828
Speaker 9: of a player in the National Football League. So the

645
00:25:47,908 --> 00:25:51,108
Speaker 9: Vikings were criticized really that yearybody, So what are they doing?

646
00:25:51,108 --> 00:25:52,828
Speaker 9: How can you not be prepared because they were trying

647
00:25:52,828 --> 00:25:54,828
Speaker 9: to work out a trade, but they kept passing and

648
00:25:54,868 --> 00:25:57,428
Speaker 9: passing and cards are run up. We have never ever

649
00:25:57,628 --> 00:25:59,668
Speaker 9: in the history of doing the draft of ESPN, ever

650
00:25:59,708 --> 00:26:02,188
Speaker 9: seen that type of thing happen, but it did. It

651
00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:04,068
Speaker 9: was two thousand and three, I believe, and that will

652
00:26:04,068 --> 00:26:06,908
Speaker 9: be one more memorable top tens of the first round

653
00:26:06,948 --> 00:26:08,108
Speaker 9: I can ever think back on.

654
00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:12,588
Speaker 7: Mel It is so cool to have this GMFB mel

655
00:26:12,668 --> 00:26:14,988
Speaker 7: Kiper crossover. I don't know how it happened. I don't

656
00:26:15,028 --> 00:26:17,068
Speaker 7: ask the executives. Something happening with it.

657
00:26:17,068 --> 00:26:17,468
Speaker 4: It's great.

658
00:26:17,628 --> 00:26:19,388
Speaker 7: We'd love to have you every week if you can.

659
00:26:19,988 --> 00:26:22,828
Speaker 7: In closing, we've got a colleague here who was not

660
00:26:22,868 --> 00:26:24,508
Speaker 7: a first round pick, but he did go on to

661
00:26:24,508 --> 00:26:27,788
Speaker 7: have a thirteen year NFL career, Jason mccordy. Do you

662
00:26:27,828 --> 00:26:30,628
Speaker 7: have a scouting report or any memory of what you

663
00:26:30,748 --> 00:26:34,788
Speaker 7: saw from an undersized Rutgers defensive back who also had

664
00:26:34,788 --> 00:26:36,388
Speaker 7: a twin brother on the team back when you were

665
00:26:36,388 --> 00:26:37,508
Speaker 7: scouting the Scarlet Knights.

666
00:26:38,948 --> 00:26:39,348
Speaker 6: He did.

667
00:26:39,548 --> 00:26:41,028
Speaker 9: He was a hect of a player, and I tell you,

668
00:26:41,148 --> 00:26:43,148
Speaker 9: I'm really proud to see what he was able to

669
00:26:43,188 --> 00:26:45,428
Speaker 9: accomplish both on and off the field. And those are

670
00:26:45,428 --> 00:26:47,748
Speaker 9: the kind of stories that make the NFL what it is.

671
00:26:47,988 --> 00:26:50,948
Speaker 9: We you see great players, great men, and really you

672
00:26:50,988 --> 00:26:52,788
Speaker 9: come back, you have a chip on your shoulder. Every

673
00:26:52,868 --> 00:26:55,548
Speaker 9: players play with a chip, and they need that first rounder.

674
00:26:55,628 --> 00:26:58,108
Speaker 9: Sometimes you look at the top ten guys, they come in,

675
00:26:58,228 --> 00:27:00,308
Speaker 9: they got all the press and all the recognition, all

676
00:27:00,348 --> 00:27:02,508
Speaker 9: the awards, and then you look at the NFL Draft

677
00:27:02,508 --> 00:27:04,828
Speaker 9: and you see guys come in and do a great

678
00:27:04,908 --> 00:27:07,028
Speaker 9: job over a period of time, over a long period

679
00:27:07,068 --> 00:27:10,108
Speaker 9: of time. So again he's made They've made Rutgers proud.

680
00:27:10,188 --> 00:27:12,388
Speaker 9: I mean Rutgers. Look at Isaiah Pacheco last year out

681
00:27:12,388 --> 00:27:15,108
Speaker 9: of Rutgers, seventh round picks the Kansas City Chiefs and

682
00:27:15,188 --> 00:27:17,548
Speaker 9: he keys their run to the super Bowl. That's why

683
00:27:17,628 --> 00:27:20,228
Speaker 9: I've always I've had one philosophy, Guys that people in

684
00:27:20,268 --> 00:27:22,668
Speaker 9: the league have jumped on that bandwagon. I gues say,

685
00:27:22,668 --> 00:27:24,908
Speaker 9: I've been wrong a lot guys. One thing I've been

686
00:27:25,068 --> 00:27:27,068
Speaker 9: I think right on that. A lot of NFL teams

687
00:27:27,068 --> 00:27:29,308
Speaker 9: now a grief even McShane now is coming around on

688
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:31,828
Speaker 9: it is, don't take a running back in the first round.

689
00:27:31,868 --> 00:27:33,468
Speaker 9: Now we're gonna get to the b Jhon Ron Love

690
00:27:33,508 --> 00:27:36,068
Speaker 9: be Jeon Robinson. But the philosophy is you can find

691
00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:38,948
Speaker 9: running backs down the line. Look at Pachecko, look at

692
00:27:38,988 --> 00:27:41,828
Speaker 9: Elijah Mitchell. I started this with Thurman Thomas back.

693
00:27:41,748 --> 00:27:42,068
Speaker 4: In the day.

694
00:27:42,108 --> 00:27:43,668
Speaker 9: I said, how many guys that didn't go in the

695
00:27:43,668 --> 00:27:45,468
Speaker 9: first round at running backers starting in the league. It

696
00:27:45,508 --> 00:27:47,748
Speaker 9: was like twenty two out of thirty two? How many

697
00:27:47,828 --> 00:27:49,028
Speaker 9: have keyed Super Bowl runs?

698
00:27:49,028 --> 00:27:49,388
Speaker 4: I look at that.

699
00:27:49,388 --> 00:27:51,908
Speaker 9: It wasn't a lot. So that's where I started that philosophy.

700
00:27:51,908 --> 00:27:54,148
Speaker 9: And now it seems like everybody's kind of jumped on

701
00:27:54,268 --> 00:27:56,788
Speaker 9: that bandwagon. As I said, But b Jon Robinson's gonna

702
00:27:56,788 --> 00:27:58,348
Speaker 9: be kind of the kind of the wild card. He's

703
00:27:58,388 --> 00:28:00,788
Speaker 9: the top five to seven player in this draft. Some

704
00:28:00,868 --> 00:28:03,908
Speaker 9: teams agree with that philosophy. Where will be Jeon Robinson?

705
00:28:03,988 --> 00:28:04,228
Speaker 4: Land?

706
00:28:04,228 --> 00:28:05,188
Speaker 2: I can't figure it out.

707
00:28:05,188 --> 00:28:07,468
Speaker 9: If you guys have an answer, formul Bejon Robinson, let

708
00:28:07,468 --> 00:28:09,228
Speaker 9: me know, because I have no clue where he's gonna

709
00:28:09,228 --> 00:28:10,028
Speaker 9: go in the first round.

710
00:28:10,868 --> 00:28:12,908
Speaker 1: Well, we have good news, mil He's actually the next

711
00:28:12,908 --> 00:28:13,788
Speaker 1: guest in the next segment.

712
00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:17,148
Speaker 2: So he's probably listening. We're gonna have it.

713
00:28:18,548 --> 00:28:20,868
Speaker 9: No, don't tell me anything. I'd rather not know until

714
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:22,428
Speaker 9: next Thursday.

715
00:28:22,068 --> 00:28:23,828
Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll say this.

716
00:28:23,988 --> 00:28:25,868
Speaker 1: You you are so good at this. You are sharp

717
00:28:25,908 --> 00:28:27,788
Speaker 1: as a razor. We have so much respect for you,

718
00:28:27,788 --> 00:28:29,428
Speaker 1: are so thrilled that you came on the show. Mel

719
00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:30,268
Speaker 1: kiper Junior.

720
00:28:30,068 --> 00:28:30,508
Speaker 6: Got the best.

721
00:28:30,548 --> 00:28:31,748
Speaker 1: Oh that dness.

722
00:28:31,788 --> 00:28:32,068
Speaker 6: Thank you.

723
00:28:32,108 --> 00:28:33,228
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

724
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:36,428
Speaker 6: Hands locks again, beat up bricks for you.

725
00:28:36,468 --> 00:28:38,548
Speaker 3: Poo the body, poo the thirty.

726
00:28:38,908 --> 00:28:40,868
Speaker 1: Say you good night to this one. Be shot.

727
00:28:41,028 --> 00:28:43,348
Speaker 2: Robison takes it a touchdown.

728
00:28:44,708 --> 00:28:49,148
Speaker 1: Blake Side, we had out of the sunline to be shot.

729
00:28:49,308 --> 00:28:52,548
Speaker 6: Rabits day standing touchdown.

730
00:28:53,588 --> 00:28:55,468
Speaker 2: Speaking of Gideo, here we go.

731
00:28:56,988 --> 00:29:01,388
Speaker 9: Up. You touch down forty one yards and he's out

732
00:29:01,428 --> 00:29:03,028
Speaker 9: of Robinson, but take it home.

733
00:29:07,468 --> 00:29:09,348
Speaker 7: We are now joined by one of the best prospects

734
00:29:09,388 --> 00:29:12,108
Speaker 7: in the entire twenty twenty three NFL drafts. He's a

735
00:29:12,188 --> 00:29:14,748
Speaker 7: unanimous All American in twenty twenty two. I've said it

736
00:29:14,748 --> 00:29:16,948
Speaker 7: on the show. He's one of the few true blue

737
00:29:17,028 --> 00:29:20,468
Speaker 7: chippers in this draft class. Let's welcome to the program.

738
00:29:20,548 --> 00:29:26,548
Speaker 7: Former Texas Longhorn, standout running back beyond.

739
00:29:26,508 --> 00:29:29,668
Speaker 6: Let's go, I gotta do it.

740
00:29:30,868 --> 00:29:31,868
Speaker 7: Oh We are awesome.

741
00:29:31,908 --> 00:29:32,628
Speaker 4: It is so cool.

742
00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:34,668
Speaker 7: You have an awesome smile, you have an awesome game,

743
00:29:34,708 --> 00:29:37,748
Speaker 7: and Texas had an awesome run with you Tote in

744
00:29:37,788 --> 00:29:40,908
Speaker 7: the rock. You know, Texas has an amazing history of

745
00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:44,508
Speaker 7: running backs. You became the fourth different Texas back to

746
00:29:44,548 --> 00:29:48,428
Speaker 7: win the Dokee Walker Award, alongside Ricky Williams Legend, late

747
00:29:48,508 --> 00:29:52,228
Speaker 7: Cedric Benson legend, and Deonta Foreman, who's currently in the

748
00:29:52,308 --> 00:29:56,028
Speaker 7: NFL Texas Legend. Earl Campbell was also there to see

749
00:29:56,068 --> 00:29:58,908
Speaker 7: you accept it. That is a mount rushmore of running

750
00:29:58,908 --> 00:30:00,388
Speaker 7: backs of the college football world.

751
00:30:00,588 --> 00:30:01,588
Speaker 1: How does it feel to be.

752
00:30:01,468 --> 00:30:04,708
Speaker 7: Part of such an amazing running back tradition and bring

753
00:30:04,708 --> 00:30:06,348
Speaker 7: that torch into the NFL?

754
00:30:07,708 --> 00:30:07,948
Speaker 6: Yeah?

755
00:30:07,988 --> 00:30:10,308
Speaker 4: Man, I mean, you know, obviously it's just such a blessing.

756
00:30:10,388 --> 00:30:12,268
Speaker 4: You know that that guy put me in the situation

757
00:30:12,388 --> 00:30:14,948
Speaker 4: that he did, you know, to be at Texas, and

758
00:30:15,588 --> 00:30:17,348
Speaker 4: you know, I knew that even when I was even

759
00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:19,428
Speaker 4: getting recruited that you know, it was it was a

760
00:30:19,428 --> 00:30:22,428
Speaker 4: place for me to be and just even my whole

761
00:30:22,428 --> 00:30:25,108
Speaker 4: time being there, just learning from you know, those guys

762
00:30:25,108 --> 00:30:27,388
Speaker 4: that you just said, and letting them come back in

763
00:30:27,628 --> 00:30:30,108
Speaker 4: and talk to me and understand that they were in

764
00:30:30,468 --> 00:30:32,948
Speaker 4: my position, you know, when they were in the in

765
00:30:32,988 --> 00:30:35,148
Speaker 4: the game as well. So it was just such a

766
00:30:35,148 --> 00:30:36,948
Speaker 4: cool thing to have those guys you know, always come

767
00:30:36,988 --> 00:30:39,548
Speaker 4: back in, you know, be in my ear and give

768
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:41,908
Speaker 4: me an opportunity to want to be a great running

769
00:30:41,908 --> 00:30:43,348
Speaker 4: back just like they were, you know, at such a

770
00:30:43,348 --> 00:30:45,868
Speaker 4: great school. So man, it was even that picture right there,

771
00:30:45,908 --> 00:30:47,948
Speaker 4: it was just great to be around all those guys

772
00:30:48,268 --> 00:30:48,788
Speaker 4: in that moment.

773
00:30:50,748 --> 00:30:51,748
Speaker 1: Unbelievable pictures.

774
00:30:51,908 --> 00:30:52,348
Speaker 6: We love it.

775
00:30:52,388 --> 00:30:54,348
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just in all of that. It's a

776
00:30:54,428 --> 00:30:56,708
Speaker 1: really really cool shot. And it's this cool club that

777
00:30:56,748 --> 00:30:59,668
Speaker 1: you're in now, You're into the Sunday Club. Listen, you

778
00:30:59,748 --> 00:31:02,268
Speaker 1: got this big smile, this great guy. We've seen you run.

779
00:31:02,308 --> 00:31:05,068
Speaker 1: You're a bad mother. I'm telling you, like a totally

780
00:31:05,108 --> 00:31:06,948
Speaker 1: different thing than we're seeing on our TV.

781
00:31:06,748 --> 00:31:07,348
Speaker 6: Show right now.

782
00:31:07,428 --> 00:31:10,548
Speaker 1: Yet, listen, you said your favorite running back of all

783
00:31:10,588 --> 00:31:13,268
Speaker 1: time is someone this before you were born, Barry Sanders,

784
00:31:13,308 --> 00:31:15,588
Speaker 1: which is incredible. And since it is the NFL, we're

785
00:31:15,588 --> 00:31:18,348
Speaker 1: gonna run Barry Sanders highlights while we talk right now

786
00:31:18,548 --> 00:31:21,668
Speaker 1: because we can. What was it about Barry's game that

787
00:31:21,748 --> 00:31:23,908
Speaker 1: you loved and what pieces of his style do you

788
00:31:23,948 --> 00:31:25,828
Speaker 1: try to incorporate because he's the all timer.

789
00:31:26,868 --> 00:31:29,068
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, you know, I said that a lot,

790
00:31:29,148 --> 00:31:31,308
Speaker 4: just because you know, he knew how to get himself

791
00:31:31,308 --> 00:31:35,388
Speaker 4: out of, you know, uncomfortable situations and just even how

792
00:31:35,468 --> 00:31:38,588
Speaker 4: he can can break a tackle and still go out

793
00:31:38,588 --> 00:31:41,188
Speaker 4: one hundred miles per hour is really rare in the

794
00:31:41,548 --> 00:31:42,188
Speaker 4: rain bass game.

795
00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:44,268
Speaker 6: So like, I try to pride myself in that.

796
00:31:44,228 --> 00:31:47,028
Speaker 4: A lot, and just to see how he can you know,

797
00:31:47,748 --> 00:31:51,548
Speaker 4: been and still you know, keep his keep his body

798
00:31:51,668 --> 00:31:54,668
Speaker 4: like body language when trying to make make defenders or

799
00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:56,988
Speaker 4: trying to tackle him. So I think that he's he's

800
00:31:56,988 --> 00:31:58,548
Speaker 4: a guy that's at the standard.

801
00:31:59,588 --> 00:31:59,788
Speaker 6: You know.

802
00:31:59,948 --> 00:32:02,548
Speaker 4: I love to watch his highlights, especially like before games

803
00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:05,028
Speaker 4: in the week before games, just because I'm gonna try

804
00:32:05,068 --> 00:32:07,268
Speaker 4: to mimic some moves that he had and you know,

805
00:32:07,388 --> 00:32:09,388
Speaker 4: use it for my skill set. So I think that

806
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:12,308
Speaker 4: he's He's the guy that I watch a lot, and

807
00:32:12,348 --> 00:32:14,988
Speaker 4: I just really enjoy, you know, his game and how

808
00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:17,548
Speaker 4: he gets himself in you know, those great situations for

809
00:32:18,028 --> 00:32:19,348
Speaker 4: what he was trying to do back in the day.

810
00:32:20,828 --> 00:32:21,348
Speaker 2: Smart man.

811
00:32:21,388 --> 00:32:22,908
Speaker 3: I don't think you can find a better guy to

812
00:32:22,988 --> 00:32:25,308
Speaker 3: watch for highlights before your own games.

813
00:32:25,308 --> 00:32:26,988
Speaker 2: As you head into the NFL Jeon.

814
00:32:27,068 --> 00:32:29,468
Speaker 3: This process must be such a breeze for you. You

815
00:32:29,508 --> 00:32:32,268
Speaker 3: know exactly where you're going, you know who's gonna draft you,

816
00:32:32,268 --> 00:32:34,788
Speaker 3: you know what everyone's opinions of you. Of course he's

817
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,348
Speaker 3: being facetious. No one knows much about this year's draft.

818
00:32:37,468 --> 00:32:39,948
Speaker 3: Even a guy who's been covering for the draft for

819
00:32:39,948 --> 00:32:42,468
Speaker 3: forty years, mel kaiper Junior, was just on our show.

820
00:32:42,708 --> 00:32:46,148
Speaker 2: Let's ask him what he thinks about Vjon don't.

821
00:32:45,908 --> 00:32:47,948
Speaker 9: Take a running back in the first round. Now we're

822
00:32:47,948 --> 00:32:50,148
Speaker 9: gonna get to the bejonre. I love Bjeon Robinson, but

823
00:32:50,188 --> 00:32:53,188
Speaker 9: the philosophy is you can find running backs down the line.

824
00:32:53,348 --> 00:32:56,348
Speaker 9: Look at Pacheco, look at Elijah Mitchell. I started this

825
00:32:56,388 --> 00:32:58,268
Speaker 9: with Thurman Thomas back in the day. I said, how

826
00:32:58,268 --> 00:32:59,868
Speaker 9: many guys that didn't go in the first round at

827
00:32:59,908 --> 00:33:01,388
Speaker 9: running back were starting in the league. It was like

828
00:33:01,468 --> 00:33:03,868
Speaker 9: twenty two out of thirty two. How many have keyed

829
00:33:03,908 --> 00:33:05,668
Speaker 9: Super Bowl runs? I look at that. It wasn't a lot.

830
00:33:05,708 --> 00:33:08,348
Speaker 9: So that's where I started that philosophy. And now it

831
00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:10,828
Speaker 9: seems like everybody's kind of jumped on that bandwagon. As

832
00:33:10,828 --> 00:33:12,748
Speaker 9: I said, But b Jon Robinson's going to be kind

833
00:33:12,748 --> 00:33:14,668
Speaker 9: of the kind of wild card, he's the top five

834
00:33:14,748 --> 00:33:17,268
Speaker 9: to seventh player in this draft. Some teams agree with

835
00:33:17,308 --> 00:33:20,348
Speaker 9: that philosophy. Where will be Jeon Robinson Land? I can't

836
00:33:20,348 --> 00:33:22,228
Speaker 9: figure it out. If you guys have an answer formul

837
00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,228
Speaker 9: Bejon Robinson let me know, because I have no clue

838
00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:27,108
Speaker 9: where he's going to go in the first round.

839
00:33:27,668 --> 00:33:28,068
Speaker 6: That's a bit.

840
00:33:28,748 --> 00:33:30,308
Speaker 3: The end of it, though, is a bite. Is that

841
00:33:30,348 --> 00:33:32,268
Speaker 3: no clue where he's going to go in the first round.

842
00:33:32,468 --> 00:33:33,628
Speaker 2: I think that's a key Bjhon.

843
00:33:33,708 --> 00:33:35,548
Speaker 3: What is it like to be in this really strange

844
00:33:35,588 --> 00:33:38,908
Speaker 3: cross section of your position, which is you are valuable

845
00:33:38,948 --> 00:33:42,788
Speaker 3: in an offense, but the position as its reputation in

846
00:33:42,828 --> 00:33:43,908
Speaker 3: the draft is slipping.

847
00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:45,268
Speaker 2: What's this been like for you?

848
00:33:46,748 --> 00:33:46,988
Speaker 6: Yeah?

849
00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:50,828
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, obviously I understand it. You know

850
00:33:51,188 --> 00:33:54,908
Speaker 4: that this position is it is starting to be devalued

851
00:33:54,908 --> 00:33:57,308
Speaker 4: a little bit just because you know, you got guys

852
00:33:57,308 --> 00:33:59,948
Speaker 4: that might not have been in the league a long time,

853
00:34:00,588 --> 00:34:03,548
Speaker 4: or you know, just some things might happen I injuries

854
00:34:03,628 --> 00:34:05,428
Speaker 4: or something like that. But I think that you know

855
00:34:05,748 --> 00:34:08,788
Speaker 4: now in today's game, the running back is such an

856
00:34:08,828 --> 00:34:11,708
Speaker 4: important position just because if you got guys that can

857
00:34:12,028 --> 00:34:15,188
Speaker 4: that can line up at receiver and slot and and

858
00:34:15,308 --> 00:34:17,588
Speaker 4: obviously play it just as well as is the running

859
00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:19,908
Speaker 4: back position. I think that that's when you have a

860
00:34:19,908 --> 00:34:21,988
Speaker 4: guy that can be a difference maker, you know, obviously

861
00:34:22,148 --> 00:34:26,468
Speaker 4: in any offense. And for me, you know that that's

862
00:34:26,508 --> 00:34:30,668
Speaker 4: been the question, uh and is you know, he can

863
00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:33,628
Speaker 4: be a great talent, but you know the position that

864
00:34:33,668 --> 00:34:37,508
Speaker 4: he plays, obviously it can it can hurt or anything

865
00:34:37,548 --> 00:34:39,508
Speaker 4: like that. But for me, I've just been trying to stay,

866
00:34:39,628 --> 00:34:41,988
Speaker 4: you know, in the moment and understand you know what

867
00:34:42,068 --> 00:34:44,308
Speaker 4: I can do, you know, for a team when when

868
00:34:44,348 --> 00:34:47,828
Speaker 4: when they do draft me, because you know, you get

869
00:34:47,828 --> 00:34:50,108
Speaker 4: the you get the moment one time, and I think

870
00:34:50,148 --> 00:34:52,548
Speaker 4: that it's it's gonna be fun to to see where

871
00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:55,668
Speaker 4: I end up because a lot of people are are

872
00:34:55,748 --> 00:34:59,028
Speaker 4: still in question of can you draft this guy in

873
00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:02,468
Speaker 4: the top ten or not? But you know, I think

874
00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:04,668
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a blessing wherever whoever picks me up,

875
00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:08,428
Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna enjoy the moment next week and

876
00:35:09,068 --> 00:35:10,588
Speaker 4: just like all of us, you see where I see

877
00:35:10,588 --> 00:35:11,428
Speaker 4: where I end up.

878
00:35:12,628 --> 00:35:14,428
Speaker 5: It will be a blessing. You'll get to live out

879
00:35:14,468 --> 00:35:17,148
Speaker 5: a childhood dream and be playing on somebody's team on

880
00:35:17,228 --> 00:35:20,108
Speaker 5: Sunday and you mentioned the draft a week away and

881
00:35:20,148 --> 00:35:22,708
Speaker 5: it was announced You're going to be in Kansas City

882
00:35:22,788 --> 00:35:26,268
Speaker 5: and be one of the players attending in person. Talk

883
00:35:26,348 --> 00:35:28,508
Speaker 5: us through the game plan for getting Now who's coming

884
00:35:28,548 --> 00:35:31,388
Speaker 5: with you with family members? But most importantly, what are

885
00:35:31,388 --> 00:35:32,948
Speaker 5: you going to be wearing at the draft? Do you

886
00:35:33,028 --> 00:35:34,228
Speaker 5: have your outfit picked out?

887
00:35:34,308 --> 00:35:34,988
Speaker 2: What are you wearing?

888
00:35:35,948 --> 00:35:36,188
Speaker 6: Yeah?

889
00:35:36,228 --> 00:35:39,868
Speaker 4: So, so you know, all the families coming, My mom,

890
00:35:39,988 --> 00:35:44,308
Speaker 4: my grandparents, my brothers and sisters, my auntie, they're they're

891
00:35:44,348 --> 00:35:46,948
Speaker 4: all going to be there. And then like the coaches

892
00:35:46,988 --> 00:35:50,068
Speaker 4: like along the way are coming to uh, my training coach,

893
00:35:50,108 --> 00:35:54,228
Speaker 4: my ring back coaches, my head coaches, they'll be there. Uh.

894
00:35:54,748 --> 00:35:57,828
Speaker 4: But I'm actually like about to do this like little

895
00:35:57,868 --> 00:36:01,508
Speaker 4: supitting soupitting today. I got the I got the suit,

896
00:36:02,708 --> 00:36:04,468
Speaker 4: I got to suit out, So now I'm about to

897
00:36:04,788 --> 00:36:06,348
Speaker 4: go and check it out. But I think it's gonna

898
00:36:06,668 --> 00:36:08,148
Speaker 4: look pretty nice. You know, I gotta I gotta set

899
00:36:08,148 --> 00:36:10,748
Speaker 4: a set of standard a little bit, uh, you know,

900
00:36:11,748 --> 00:36:13,668
Speaker 4: press a little bit. So we're gonna we're gonna see

901
00:36:13,668 --> 00:36:14,988
Speaker 4: what see what what looks like?

902
00:36:16,388 --> 00:36:16,828
Speaker 6: Let's go.

903
00:36:17,068 --> 00:36:18,948
Speaker 3: You gotta make it memorable because you got like one

904
00:36:18,988 --> 00:36:21,468
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty days until we see you playing on Sundays,

905
00:36:21,508 --> 00:36:23,708
Speaker 3: so you leave them, leave them once and more.

906
00:36:23,748 --> 00:36:25,948
Speaker 2: But we'll know it's fitted because we heard it here first.

907
00:36:26,148 --> 00:36:27,828
Speaker 2: Custom Baby, thank you so much.

908
00:36:28,508 --> 00:36:29,428
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, guys,