WEBVTT - EP 23 - Dawn

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<v Speaker 1>One day, I'm leaving a doctor appointment and I get

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call from the FBI and they just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so and so with the Dallas FBI. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you come in and talk to us about your husband?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, why, what about my husband?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about

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<v Speaker 2>the people we trust the most and the deceptions that

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<v Speaker 2>change everything. As a listener, note this episode contains references

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<v Speaker 2>to suicide and suicidal ideation. Please take care while listening.

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<v Speaker 2>About a year ago, we heard from a fast talking

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<v Speaker 2>Southern woman named Dawn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from East Texas, born and raised.

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<v Speaker 2>Donna is a firecracker, speaking your mind, just in Don's family.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets it from her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>My. Matter's just a good little four foot nine Pentecostal woman,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also doesn't mince words.

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn's story of betrayal is a little different. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>first to say that her story starts when she committed

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<v Speaker 2>a betrayal of her own.

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<v Speaker 1>We did start as a betrayal. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people hurt in this, and I was not always

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<v Speaker 1>the innocent person. I did a lot of hurting.

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<v Speaker 2>In the early two thousands, Don was married with two

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<v Speaker 2>young daughters. She described her first husband as a nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the first guy that had ever really been good

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<v Speaker 2>to her, but she wasn't in love. One night, Don

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go out with her sister.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually left church to meet my sister out on

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<v Speaker 1>a Wednesday night at a bar. And there this man is.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him, and there was an instant attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was Wes. Wes was an oil man, as

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<v Speaker 2>they say in Texas, and he had a smooth talking

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<v Speaker 2>persona to match.

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<v Speaker 1>When he walked into a room, he commanded the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never seen anything like it. He was just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people, and he was paying attention to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, whoa. And I had a little

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<v Speaker 1>shirt that came right to the top of my high

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<v Speaker 1>waisted jeans, you know, and I've moved and my belly

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<v Speaker 1>showed and he reached and kind of like touched my belly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was pulling my shirt down and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't pull your shirt down, that's sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>That night, he focused intensely on her. Wes laughed, hearted

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<v Speaker 2>her jokes, and the way he looked at her made

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<v Speaker 2>her feel beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked all night. We just stood in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of the club like WHI people were dancing and drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>just talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn told him about her husband and two daughters, but

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't bat an eye. Honestly, she was surprised that

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<v Speaker 2>he was single.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me he was not married, and then he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any children, and I didn't believe that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bullshit. There's absolutely no way in hell that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not marrying. I don't have any kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Against her better judgment, she gave him her phone number

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<v Speaker 2>and then they went their separate ways.

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<v Speaker 1>From then, we just talked every day and we would

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<v Speaker 1>meet out once a week.

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<v Speaker 2>That went on for about eight months. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>it was an emotional affair. There was nothing physical going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and he stuck to his story about being single with

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<v Speaker 2>no kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept telling him, like, I don't believe you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you might as well just tell me, like, I'm married,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a ring on.

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<v Speaker 2>After a few months, Wes finally came clean. He did

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<v Speaker 2>have a wife and a daughter too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I knew it, like I knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know why you were lying to be

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>He confessed that he'd had a few affairs before, but

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<v Speaker 2>this time with Dawn it was different. They'd been talking

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<v Speaker 2>every day for months, seeing each other once a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though nothing physical had happened between them, Wes

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<v Speaker 2>was in deep. This is what he told her.

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with you, and I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do with this situation. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose you, but I didn't want to disappoint

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<v Speaker 1>my family.

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<v Speaker 2>Wes was a preacher's son. No one and his family

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<v Speaker 2>had ever been divorced, and Don understood that pressure. But

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<v Speaker 2>after eight months, their emotional affair turned physical and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no going back. After that, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew what I was doing was wrong. I knew then

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to start working towards dissolving my marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the first to take Philip to leave her marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted to start over with Wes at her side.

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<v Speaker 2>Not long after, Wes said he and his wife were

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<v Speaker 2>also separating in order for him to be with Don.

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<v Speaker 2>In a few months after that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>They made their relationship public, spend time with each other's kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and started building a new life together. Don started bringing

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<v Speaker 2>Wes around her family and spending time with his young daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>His larger family wasn't ready to accept Wes's recent separation. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>he and Don began envisioning a life together. Don had

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<v Speaker 2>stayed home with her kids in the past and loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wes said he could give that life.

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<v Speaker 1>To her again.

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<v Speaker 2>He could afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me, I have enough money to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of you, so I want you to stay home, and

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<v Speaker 1>he bought me a brand new two thousand and four expedition.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a forty five thousand dollars vehicle, so I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rate my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Don agreed to move to a small town outside of Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>where Wes lived. His whole family was there too. He

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to stay close to his daughter. Because he and

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<v Speaker 2>Don weren't married yet, he decided to live separately. Wes

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<v Speaker 2>lived with his mom while Don and her daughters ran

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<v Speaker 2>to just a small house in town.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved me to this tiny little town of only

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<v Speaker 1>a few hundred people with one grocery store. There.

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<v Speaker 2>Wes got a new job in the steel business, and

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<v Speaker 2>Don settled into her new life as a stay at

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<v Speaker 2>home mom. The couple started making plans to get married.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a Vegas wedding because it wasn't my first rodeo.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted Elvis to give me away. He wanted a minister.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the middle of wedding planning, Don's cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>got turned off. She assumed that Wes, as busy as

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<v Speaker 2>he was, had forgotten to pay their bill. It was

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, so she used her landline to

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<v Speaker 2>call his office. He had been working at a place

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<v Speaker 2>called Chaparral Steel, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I called Chaparral Steel. I got to get hold of

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<v Speaker 1>him and I'm like, yeah, need to speak to Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>And They're like, we don't have anyone who works here

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<v Speaker 1>by that name. And I'm like, what are you sure?

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<v Speaker 1>So Wes was his middle name, So I tell him like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't I have, you know, like George Wesley Harris Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like no. Then I said, let me talk to hr.

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<v Speaker 1>They put me on the phone like they're like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have anyone that works here by that name. And

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<v Speaker 1>then everything in me just gets this pit right. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Lied about where he worked. What was going on? Her

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<v Speaker 2>gut instinct told her to call his ex wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the phone and you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>were about to do something, you know, your whole life

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<v Speaker 1>is about to go in a different director, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change that the course of your life is

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<v Speaker 1>you know it. It's kind of that moment. I called

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<v Speaker 1>her and she's like, who is this? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Don this is Wes is fiance.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a long pause on the other end of

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. Something wasn't right. Before she could get an

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<v Speaker 2>answer about the job, the conversation took a different.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn and she said, don't ever haul this house again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, wait, are y'all still married? And she goes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are, and we have been very much married for

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years. Don't call this house again. She

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<v Speaker 1>hangs up the phone, and I'm just standing there in

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<v Speaker 1>shock because we're supposed to be getting married that month

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<v Speaker 1>and he's still married, living with her, telling me he's

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<v Speaker 1>living with his mom. So then she calls me right

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<v Speaker 1>back and says, well, I know where his heart is

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<v Speaker 1>because he just left the house and I'm quite certain

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably on his way to your house. And she

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<v Speaker 1>hangs up. Well, about five minutes later, he shows up

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<v Speaker 1>at my door. She looked like ten minutes from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn had moved her whole life and her kids to

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<v Speaker 2>this small town. She thought it was for her and

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<v Speaker 2>West to start a new life together. Turns out it

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<v Speaker 2>was so he could be closer to his wife, who

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<v Speaker 2>he was still living with. He was never separated.

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<v Speaker 1>He moves me to this tiny town with one grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>At any point in time, I could have run into

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and daughter at the grocery store, and the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter would have run up to me and been like, Don,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a toddler.

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<v Speaker 2>Within ten minutes, both Wes and his wife were at

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<v Speaker 2>Don's house and they were fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there's a copy episode up in my house

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>With hindsight, Don can joke about it now. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment her relationship with.

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<v Speaker 1>Wes was over, he told me he was really living

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<v Speaker 1>with his mom now, So that came to fruition. He

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<v Speaker 1>kept telling me like no one's ever being divorced in

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<v Speaker 1>my family. I didn't know how to end the marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be with you, like we can be together,

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<v Speaker 1>we could fix this, but I was done with him.

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<v Speaker 1>We separated, and then he had a nervous breakdown. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he went into his first seventy two hour hold in

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<v Speaker 1>a mental institution for a breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>She had sympathy for him, especially as he was going

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<v Speaker 2>through a mental health crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, he's just conflicted, he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt his family. I can love him through that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be great once we get through this crap.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just went to bat for him because I

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<v Speaker 1>had given up so much.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks after everything came to light, she took

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<v Speaker 2>him back. Wes kept saying he was in the process

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<v Speaker 2>of divorcing his.

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<v Speaker 1>Wife, and finally it was his wife that called me

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<v Speaker 1>one day and he was in my living room and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, is he with you? And I said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, he told me he hasn't seen you

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<v Speaker 1>and hasn't been seeing you. I said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still seeing each other. And she said, you could

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<v Speaker 1>have him. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole situation was messy, destructive, but Dawn and Wes

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<v Speaker 2>could finally be together for real this time. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there was still that issue of his job, or the

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<v Speaker 2>job he said he had. When she asked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Wes confessed that he'd been fired from a string of

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<v Speaker 2>job and he was too ashamed teller. She pitied him.

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<v Speaker 2>He put so much pressure on himself to appear perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was taking a massive toll on him. So

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<v Speaker 2>Don's strategy was to love him through this tumultuous time,

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<v Speaker 2>to assure him that they would figure it out together.

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<v Speaker 2>And pretty soon he came to her with a new

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<v Speaker 2>job prospect.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I have the opportunity to go back in

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<v Speaker 1>the oil and gas business.

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<v Speaker 2>He was working in the oil business when they met.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't want him to slide back into the toxic

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<v Speaker 2>culture he'd left behind, but she knew she couldn't control him. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good job offer, so he took the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was that job that ended up being his downfall.

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn had forgiven her fiance West for a number of things.

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<v Speaker 2>He told her he was separated from his wife, when

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<v Speaker 2>in reality he was still very much with her. He

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<v Speaker 2>told Don he worked as a salesman at a steel company,

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<v Speaker 2>which she found out was also a lie. Finally, with

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<v Speaker 2>Wes coming clean, the couple could enter a new era,

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of golden era, and it started with a wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Little Chapel of the West, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a historical, beautiful chapel there in Vegas, and Elvis gave

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<v Speaker 1>me away. He said, this is your Priscilla and he

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<v Speaker 1>kissed me and then he gave me away Wes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we went and did tequila shots in my wedding

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<v Speaker 1>dress at Caesar's Palace. Was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>The new job Westcord, which this time was a real job,

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<v Speaker 2>proved to be a natural fit for him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>managing investor money at an oil and gas company, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was great at it.

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<v Speaker 1>He quickly became their top producer, selling million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>investments some months, and their number one salesman.

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<v Speaker 2>They moved out of the small town where his ex

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<v Speaker 2>wife and family lived and settled in a Fort Worth

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<v Speaker 2>suburb to be near his job.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's like, let's look at houses. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at houses and I'm like, well, what's our budget

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, no, we can put one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars down the house. And I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice. So we looked at this house on the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. It is beautiful, and we bought that.

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<v Speaker 2>The cherry on top. They joined the country club.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, if you were anyone, you were at

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<v Speaker 1>Walnut Creek Country Club.

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<v Speaker 2>They were officially somebody's And it was around this time

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<v Speaker 2>when she entered this life of luxury. That Dawn made

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<v Speaker 2>a new friend, we'll call her Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and I became fast friends. And then we got

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<v Speaker 1>our husbands together, and they became very good friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would golf together, we'd all travel together.

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<v Speaker 2>As their personal life blossomed, so did Wes's career. The

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<v Speaker 2>oil company was growing a lot, and Wes had made

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<v Speaker 2>friends with the right people there, people who wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>take them all the way to the top of the company.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they gave him the opportunity to buy the company.

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<v Speaker 2>He did, and he took over as CEO.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, you know, Wes was the president

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<v Speaker 1>and owner, and then all of a sudden, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>wife of a man who owns the company. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just was like, Okay, here we go. This is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>The sale of the company happened fast and under kind

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<v Speaker 2>of weird circumstances, but Wes didn't seem concerned about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the money was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really had to what for anything, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted something, I would just say, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>care if I get this? Or Hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to lunch today with some ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>And the couple got to spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>doing something they both love, partying.

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<v Speaker 1>We were drinking a lot partying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids were with their dad every other weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're at the country club five nights a week.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a whirlwind, Great Gatsby style, but set in

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and six Texas suburbs. Don and West

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<v Speaker 2>were still in their thirties and they made it big.

0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.880
<v Speaker 2>She knew her husband was a charmer, but there were

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<v Speaker 2>two sides to that coin. On one side, he was

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<v Speaker 2>a natural leader and salesman, but on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>Wes was still the same old lady's man. Early on,

0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Don found evidence that Wes might be cheating on her.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of confronting him, she decided to take a different approach.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided that if he could do it in front

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<v Speaker 1>of my face, at least I'd have control over it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started going to swingers clots.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to know a little more about the Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>swinger scene.

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<v Speaker 1>They're actual bars and Dallas and they have their own

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<v Speaker 1>little language, so you can know if other people go

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<v Speaker 1>to these places. You just slip in some little language

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<v Speaker 1>that only other people know, and then you know who

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>The couple would agree on their boundaries beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>We can at least just be free. We can dance

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and make out and do whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. We don't have to talk to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would go and be like.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I trust you down, says She was quote in

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<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle for about a year and a half until

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<v Speaker 2>the party started feeling off to her. It stopped being fun,

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<v Speaker 2>but Wes pressured her to keep going with him. Those

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<v Speaker 2>nights would always end in drunken blackouts fights.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to where I would wake up in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and be like, I can't do this. I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>on my knees in prayer, you know, because we're like

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<v Speaker 1>part of a church community too. We had this double life,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would be like, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>They stopped going to swingers clubs together and for a

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<v Speaker 2>while everything seemed normal. That was until years later, when

0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Wes began spending more and more time at work. Dawn

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<v Speaker 2>was becoming suspicious about his work travel and the long

0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.679
<v Speaker 2>hours he was putting in. Plus, he became guarded with

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<v Speaker 2>his phone whenever Dawn tried to confront him. They got

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<v Speaker 2>into an argument. After one particularly bad fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I lied to Wes and told him that I went

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<v Speaker 1>and got coffee and was just trying to cool off.

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<v Speaker 2>In reality, she drove to a friend's house to vent

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<v Speaker 2>about Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the coffee place I did not know was open

0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at that hour. So Wes was like, you're lying to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything just blew up.

0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.920
<v Speaker 2>It was a lie that gave him a reason to

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<v Speaker 2>leave her, and he took it immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>When he came back home to pack a bag, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is over. I want a divorce. And I remember beggoning, like, please,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this. We can figure this out, like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Don couldn't understand why he was so eager to walk

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<v Speaker 2>out on her, so she turned to her friend Sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sandy had recently seen Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, we took his ring off. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know he was not wearing his ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Down was devastated and Sandy was there to comfort her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember my head was in her lap and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crying and she's like, Don, this relationship it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too much. It's like a bomb fuse and it was

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<v Speaker 1>bound to burn out.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon after Wes went on a work trip, Don got

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<v Speaker 2>a weird feeling about it. Call it intuition. So she

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do a little investigating.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out where he was staying. She called the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hotel front desk, and she found out that there were

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<v Speaker 2>two people staying in Wes's room. The other person was

0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Sandy Down's friend. She suddenly understood why Wes had been

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<v Speaker 2>so quick to walk out of their marriage, and why

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Sandy was feeding her information about Wes's infidelity, even advising

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<v Speaker 2>her that the relationship was too much.

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<v Speaker 1>She was supposed to be my brand, but she's screwing

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<v Speaker 1>my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>When Wes came back from that business trip, his affair

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<v Speaker 2>with Sandy was out it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big scandal. You know, we were all

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<v Speaker 1>members of the country club. Her and I were on

0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the committee at the country club together. So now that's outed.

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<v Speaker 1>They're up there hold enhanced the country club, and everybody's talking, talking, talking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was humiliating, infuriating, but it was nothing compared to

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<v Speaker 2>what came next.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes and tells me that he filed for divorce

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<v Speaker 1>and he put a restrained order on me to keep

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<v Speaker 1>me out of his company.

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<v Speaker 2>A restraining order. She didn't have anything to do do

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<v Speaker 2>with his company.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I walked in the doors of his company

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three or four times, like I could count of

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<v Speaker 1>one hand. I didn't have anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So telling me to stay all the company like that

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<v Speaker 1>pissed me off.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wes offered to make her a deal to buy

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<v Speaker 2>her off.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I will give you enough money that you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a house cash. I'll give you enough money

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>for that. And I said, you were nothing when I

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<v Speaker 1>met you. You were borrowing money from your mother, living

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<v Speaker 1>in my rent house. If you think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>replace me and my two girls with her and her

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<v Speaker 1>two boys, and you're going to give me money for

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<v Speaker 1>a house and you're operating a multi million dollar company,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go fuck yourself. I go, that's not happening.

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.120
<v Speaker 2>When she didn't take the first seal he offered, Wes

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<v Speaker 2>tried another one.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried to start calming me down. He's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>can work this out together. We'll use my attorney. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will sit down with my accountant. I will let

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at all the books. He goes, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just calm down, you don't even have to come to

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<v Speaker 1>the hearing. I'll take care of it. The restraining order

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<v Speaker 1>will go away.

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<v Speaker 2>She took that deal and she believed him. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what day the divorce hearing was set for.

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<v Speaker 1>Until I was at my second grader's field day in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the country club members. A man came up

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<v Speaker 1>to me and said, I need you to know. Wes's

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 1>going around telling everybody that he got everything and that

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.199
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be out on your ass in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. He's just going to put you out

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and he has everything, like you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Show up to a trial.

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<v Speaker 1>What he did was he walked in there and told

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<v Speaker 1>the judge, my wife is a raging alcoholic. She's violent

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and abusive. She did not even care to be here today.

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>And the judge gave him everything everything, and I didn't

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 1>know it now.

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<v Speaker 2>She was ready to burn it all down.

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<v Speaker 1>I called him and I say, I'm getting an attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust you anymore.

0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.679
<v Speaker 2>She didn't just hire any attorney. She hired the mayor

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 2>of their town.

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember Wes going, you hired the mayor of Mansfeld,

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like you, I could right, I did.

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's when Wes let something slip.

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 1>He starts freaking out, and in his panic, he did

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>say to me, Dawn, don't get an attorney. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, things are in the gray at work, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to pull it up out of the gray area.

0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I could go to prison. I should have

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 1>stopped on that and double tapped into that statement.

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Dawn discovered her husband, Wes, had been cheating on her

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 2>with her close friend, and in the divorce that followed,

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<v Speaker 2>he filed a restraining order to keep Dawn out of

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 2>his multimillion dollar business. Yes, he crossed her one too

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.640
<v Speaker 2>many times, and now she needed to know the extent

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of his wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm starting to go on the internet looking

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>at stuff about his company, the things that people are

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 1>saying about his company. I'm like, I cannot get over this,

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Like this is crazy. They're saying it's a scam and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no return.

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>She saw a post from people who'd invested in Wes's

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>oil company saying they've been promised returns, but those returns

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 2>never came. Jawn was also finding records of properties in

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>her husband's name, properties she didn't know anything about. That

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:39.679
<v Speaker 2>all led back to Wes.

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a friend who works for the SEC and

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<v Speaker 1>so I called her one day and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just need to vent about the stuff i'm finding out

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:54.199
<v Speaker 1>about his company. And she said, you're on my government

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>issued phone, so anything you say. And I said, well,

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're a government oh, Trump's our friendship, so be it.

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>But I need, I think I need to tell you

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>this stuff i'm finding out. What I didn't know is

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>he was already under investigation. So when she said that

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to me, that was her little under the table warning

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>because there was really something going on.

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Her friend couldn't tell her about the investigation, but someone

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 2>else was about to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd gone to your doctor appointment and I was leaving

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>the doctor's office and I get a phone call and

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it was is this Dawn Harris? And I said yes

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it is and they said, this is so and so

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>with the Dallas FBI office. We'd like for you to

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<v Speaker 1>come in. And I was like, excuse me, and they said,

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>we have some questions for you. And I said, what

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of questions? What's this about? And they said it's

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>about your husband, Wes Harris, And I said what about

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>my husband? And they said, well, it's about his company,

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and I said what about company? Like, I don't know

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>what I can tell you about his company? I don't

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with this company.

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 2>She might not be involved with the company, but she

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>did know Wes was always up to something, and if

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 2>she could help expose.

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>More of his lies, she was in I called my

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>attorney's office. The paralegal there answered the phone and I

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>told her the FBI just called me, and she said,

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you're probably the inn tapped, don't talk to anyone, come

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>straight here.

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 2>But almost immediately Wes started calling.

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>So my phone's blowing up. Where are you? Where are you?

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.479
<v Speaker 1>So he tells me he's going to come by the house,

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and later that evening he came by the house and

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>he kept doing this really weird thing where he would

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to me and tell me he wanted to get

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>back together, and then he'd drop his eyes and he'd

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>get real close to me, and then he'd snap out

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>of it and start talking again. And it was making

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>me very nervous, and so we went from the kitchen

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>into the living room and we both sat down, and

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that's when he looked at me and goes, what did

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.959
<v Speaker 1>the FBI call you today? And I went, I don't know,

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and he said, what do they want? I said, I

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They said they wanted to talk about you,

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and he said, well, you're not going to talk to them.

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, I'm going in to talk to them.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And he wanted to send me with one of his attorneys,

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and I declined that. I said absolutely not. I said,

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going with an attorney. I have nothing to hide,

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't need an attorney. I'm going to go in

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>there and answer their questions. And he was trying to

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>get me out to talk to them.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>But don did.

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Talk with the Vets and she learned he had misappropriated

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>That two million dollars was just the beginning. In total,

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Wes's company illegally raised thirteen million through what's known as

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 2>a boiler room scheme. Salespeople like Wes dooped hundreds of

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>everyday people to invest their savings in the company's oil

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 2>drilling projects. But they were doing it using fakeda to

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>falsified information about the company's profits and empty promises about

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>their expected returns, and a lot of those investor funds

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>weren't being used to expand the company's profits.

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>He was ballsy. He had a stripper on the payroll.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He paid monthly, which I mean, you don't steal millions

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of dollars at like thirty five years old, without being

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>super ballsy.

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>And where did all that money go? Well, Wes used

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>it to fund their famili's lavish lifestyle.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I would look at things and be like, that was

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>bought with stolen money. You know, like that's kind of

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 1>hard to stomach. And your whole life is bought with

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>stolen money.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Money stolen from regular people who'd invested in Wes's oil

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and gas company, who were told they'd see massive returns.

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Investors were calling me saying, I know your daughter's names,

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>where they go to school, I know where you live.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I gave him three quarters of a million dollars and

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>he ruined my life and I'm going to ruin his.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>And then I was so panicked. I'm like, he doesn't

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>even live here, Like we're separated, so now they know

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm alone.

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 2>She was scared for her own safety, but more so

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>she was devastated when she heard from the victims of

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Wes's fraud.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I had one woman who was really sweet. She called me,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, we're a mom and pop place in

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>New Mexico. She goes, we gave him all of our

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>life savings.

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Even though Don wasn't responsible for Wes's crimes, she was

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>still financially entangled with him.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 1>His LLC that he was laundering money through. He had

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>put me as the president, so I was the president

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of that until we split up. I had written checks

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>out of that account, but just because he would tell me, like,

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>write a check, and then he took me off of it,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>thank god.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>But of course everything he'd bought for the couple, from

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>their house to Don's shoes, could now be seized by

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the Feds, and.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I was told that federal marshalls were going to show

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>up at my house and I would be able to

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>pack a bag for me and my child drink.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Don's life was on pause as she waited for the

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>financial and legal reckoning.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>We could not have our divorce trial until the sec

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>was done because what was left over was community property. Look,

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they left me basically, so I had to fight for that.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>He made me fight for that.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>That's when Don got another unexpected call from, of all people,

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a new woman West had started dating. She wanted to

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>meet Don in person.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>She ended up finding me reaching out to me because

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>she had suspicions about him. She told me he had

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>taken her to Deceity little place. Then there was like

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>other couples that were like rubbing her back, and she

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>goes and then I'd blacked out and I don't remember

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the night. And she said, and don

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't drink, not that much. She goes, I maybe

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>had two drinks. When she goes, I think he probably

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>drugged me. And I burst in the tears and I said,

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you just described the last year and half of my life,

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's what I would do. I wouldn't have that

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>much to drink. But all of a sudden, I'm coming

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in and out of consciousness and I'm seeing all this

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff around me, but you can't move.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until that moment, when someone else described her

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 2>same experiences that Dawn realized what was really happening. The

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>last few times she went to the swingers club with

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Wes those nights he blacked out.

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>When I was saying that I couldn't do it anymore,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that's when he started dragging me.

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>This was more than a betrayal, it was a crime.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>He drugged and sexually assaulted her. She was still processing

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>this while in the middle of an SEC investigation where

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the government could be justified and seizing everything she had.

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>It left her feeling overwhelmingly empty and alone.

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>There was times I pulled in my garage and shut

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the garage door and lean the seatback, because I knew

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that the government was about to come in and take

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>my home and take all of my things, and I

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was gonna have to tell everyone, and I was gonna

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>have to uproot my daughters and scare the shit out

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of them. Right so I just wanted to die. I'm like,

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>if I could just go to sleep right now, I

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to deal with this. I can remember setting

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the garage door and leaning that seatback and sitting there.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>But I would see my daughter's little faces. They were

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>like eight, I'm ten, and I would turn the cars.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd wipe my face. I'd go in the house and

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>get it together.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Every day felt excruciatingly long. Don says she got through

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>it for her daughters, and Wes well, he'd already moved

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>on to see the least.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>He had met a girl in Sunday school, and he

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>had convinced all of his family that he was innocent.

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>If I was guilty, i'd be in by now. I'm

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>going to sue the government and the sec and all

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of them for falsely accusing me. I was told his

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>mom had like second mortgage your house.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I was told that he had.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Gone through this poor woman's savings or whatever. These are things,

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of course I was told. But what I do know

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is that was starting to unravel.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>He might have been telling his family that he was innocent,

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>but that's not what Wes told the government. He agreed

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to a plea deal with the FBI. Now he was

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>awaiting sentencing. Finally they could move forward with their divorce.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Our divorce was a trial because he was trying to

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 1>fight me for everything the government left me with. So

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I had to get up on stand and testify, and

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of course he pleaded the fifth to everything.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Dawn was relieved to keep the modest half of what

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the government left her, but Wes still wasn't done with her.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Despite it all, he still kept reaching out to Dawn.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>She didn't reply until finally.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He called me one day. He was really confused and

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>sounded just really out of it. I'm like, just go

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>serve your sentence, go do your time, And in one

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>breath he said, I'm not going to prison. What do

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you mean I'm innocent? And then in the next breath,

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he'd say, you know what happens to them might be

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>imprisoned on what am I going to do when I

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>come out?

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He couldn't wrap his mind around the reality that he

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>was going to prison considering what he'd done. Don was

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>losing patience for him. She knew he was reaching out

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>for sympathy, maybe for help processing, or maybe because he

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>just didn't have anyone else left.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And then he texted me one more thing, which is

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what we used to say to each other that meant

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to love you. We would always say one more thing.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>And he texted me one more thing. And I reached

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>out to his first wife again, and she said, Don,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>he keeps doing this, go to bed, turn your phone off.

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>The next morning he killed himself. He was supposed to

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>turn himself in that next day. He had come to

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>an agreement with the FBI, and he was only going

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to serve like, I don't know, five to seven years.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was twenty twelve. He'd been way out

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of prison by now. I went to the funeral his grandmother,

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>who I loved, and she loved me. She came up

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to me and she asked me about the house and

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>about me selling the house. I said, you know, you

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. The government took everything. The government took that house,

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't sell any like I have. I don't

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>have anything. And she kind of looked at me confused.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>He'd been lying to everyone, including his family. He'd also

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>been stealing from his grandmother.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, he stole the money out of her account to

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>buy the gun to kill himself.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 2>It's been over a decade since the end of their

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>relationship and since Wes passed away.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I try to say, I don't have any regrets. I

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>got a couple, I got a couple hard lessons for sure.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Dawn endured so much in this relationship. We asked what

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the hardest part was for her.

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>What gets me the most is the betrayal to myself,

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know that woman, and thank god I

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know her anymore. I look back and how in

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the world, for ten years of my life this man

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>was able to lie and manipulate, and I would lie

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and manipulate, you know, because again we started out as

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>an affair. But the biggest thing is just how I

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>let myself get so wrapped up in that and the

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>things that my children had to go through they were

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months and four when I met him. That's probly

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the hardest.

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Thing part of Don's healing process is being honest, taking

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>accountability for her actions.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Being able to talk to other people and just beak

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>honest has been very healing. Like I don't hold back

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the fact we were an affair. I don't hold back

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the people that I've hurt. You know, there was a

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people hurting this, and I was not always

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the innocent person. I did a lot of hurting.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Dawn found happiness in starting a new career.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to be an esthetician, So now on

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>my own spa, that's what I'm sitting in, my little spa.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>She also fell in love again, this time with a

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>man who was honest with her and treats her well.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.959
<v Speaker 2>In fact, while we were on our call, Hi honey.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>My husband's brought me flowers or so sweet, thank you babe.

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 2>We end all of our episodes with the same question,

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 2>why did you want to tell your story to.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Reach other people and let them know that you know,

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole network of people out here that have

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>been heard, but that you can go through these horrible

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>things and it's not over and you can rebuild as

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<v Speaker 1>many times as it takes. Just be honest with yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like who I am today, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I didn't try to hide all of those mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>On the next episode of Betrayal, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember it was a profound moment. Who is this cruel?

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<v Speaker 1>Who can pull this off? Whose family pulls it off?

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<v Speaker 1>Whose friends pull it off? What in the world? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you fabricate the details?

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<v Speaker 2>team or want to tell us your Betrayal story, email

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<v Speaker 2>of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group and

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<v Speaker 2>partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show is executive produced by

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Glass and Jennifer Fason, hosted and produced by me

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<v Speaker 2>Andrea Gunning, written and produced by Monique Leboard. Also produced

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<v Speaker 2>by Ben Fetterman. Associate producers are Kristin Mercury and Caitlin Golden.

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<v Speaker 2>editing and mixing by Matt Delvecchio, additional editing support from

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