1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back inside the uc Hell Training Center 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: for another episode of Broncos Now Hume reporter and host 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones here, and coming up on today's episode, we'll 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: take a look at the Broncos head coaching search, what 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the latest reports are, and who was reportedly emerged as 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: the broncos a top candidate. All that more coming up. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Joining me here inside the Broncos podcast studio to take 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: a closer look at the head coaching search. News is 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Broncos lead writer Eric Alala. Eric, the waiting game continues, Yeah, 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: more waiting waiting. It's been a quiet it's been a 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: quiet week. UM. Some reports still kind of swirling around, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: but I said, I think by this point a lot 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: of people expected the Broncos to be doing second interviews, UM, 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: to have people in the building, and uh, it's really 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: been kind of quiet until you know, Thursday when nine 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: News is my Cliss put out a report that Damiko 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Ryan's is among the top candidates UM for the job. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: And really that's the first thing we've heard since the 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: first round of interviews ended last week. Yeah, it has 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: been pretty quiet around here. Eric. You know, you mentioned 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: Mike Cliss saying that Demiko Ryan's is going to has 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: been one of the top candidates, or it's emerging as 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: one of the top candidates. So what do you like 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: about him and what do you think called add if 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: he is a higher here? Yeah, I mean it's um Damiko, 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: I think is not a guy that necessarily at the 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: start of this search you would have expected um to 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: be at the top of the list, just because I 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: think the Broncos were clear that well it wasn't you know, 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a deal breaker. They were looking for somebody with head 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: coaching experience, and so you know the names that came 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: out right away where the Sean Payton's, UM, Dan Quinn, 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, who of course just got hired by Carolina. 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: UM because the first domino to fall there in the 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: coaching searches around the league. Um, you know, Jim Harbaugh 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: of course was mentioned from Michigan. So you looked at 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: all these guys and um, you thought, okay, well, maybe 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: one of these guys would have to really wow you 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: in terms of it interview, in their on field performance. 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: And you know, it seems like that must have been 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: what Demiko Ryan's did to to be considered. You know, 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: reportedly one of these top candidates. Um, the forty Niners 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: do have the best scoring defense in the NFL. He's 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: had a short tenure there, believe this is just his 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: second season, but obviously in his second consecutive NFC championship, 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: worked with inside linebackers. UM. Fred Warner obviously a really 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: really good player, and I think Damiko Ryan's himself and 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. You see the mentality on that defense. They're physical, 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: they're fast. Um, they hit you hard, and you know, 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: when you're looking at a head coach and especially this 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Broncos team that I think could probably stand to be 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: a little more discipline, accountable, tougher. Um, those are the 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: traits that you see in this defense that I think 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: could come to this Denver team. And so those things 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: all stand out about Damiko Ryan's kind of when you 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: first look at him. And yes, he would be the 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: fourth consecutive first time head coach for this organization. But 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: I think if you see enough in him to decide, 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, hey, he's the best coach no matter what 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: his experiences, then then maybe it makes sense. Right. I 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan, he came out this week and said, 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, he had some high praise for Damika Ryan's 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: gave him some strong endorsements, said that, you know, last 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: year he thought he was really ready to be a 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: head coach, so you know he more than deserves it 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Absolutely, you know he's again he's a 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: guy that is You hear people talk about who are 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the best up and coming coaches, and Damika Ryance has 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: been on that list for a long time. Um. I 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: believe he just was named the uh some organization handed 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: him Assistant Coach of the Year. Um so clearly he's 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: up there with the best of them. You'd be hiring 73 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: another defensive guru. You know, he went from defensively the 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: fan jo offensive with Nathaniel Hackett. Um, so this would 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: be a swing back in the defensive direction. But it's 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: less to me about that. It's more about someone who 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: can lead the entire football team. And it sounds like 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: from the people around him that he would be that 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: type of guy. And you mentioned a little bit earlier, 80 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Frank right, he was the first to go in this 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: head coaching cycle. I feel like this year thinks have 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: been a little bit slow in this cycle. Yeah, I 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: think that is It's interesting. Um, I think technically it's 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: it's about the same the Broncos announced and uh, the 85 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: Bears announced their two head coaches last year on on January, 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: so we're still about the same time framed. But I 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: think I think maybe the fact that Nathaniel Hackett was 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: dismissed before the season ended, UM, the coaching search and 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: all the speculations started then, So I think maybe it 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: just feels like a couple of weeks longer. And then 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the fact that there hasn't been a lot of action 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: um this week, at least from an outside perspective, it's 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: it does seem like maybe it's gone a little bit long, 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: but um, you know, we'll see a decision could come. 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I'd imagine at any moment um, you think, because the 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Broncos aren't are you know, at least from an external 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: standpoint from what we know, they're not doing second round 98 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: in of views, UM, I would imagine they're getting close 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: to at least you know, targeting somebody, and so you 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: would think in the coming days that it's possible you 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: hear an announcement. Um. And again we're just kind of 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: all guessing at this point because you don't really know 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: what's going on with the search committee. But UM, I 104 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: would just say to people, be patient. The Roncas are 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: doing their best. I'm sure to to find the right 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: head coach no matter how long it takes. And I 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: do I do imagine that this Frank Reich hiring will 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: start to get things going a little bit because a 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: team like Arizona who was considering Frank Reich, well now 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: they've got to move on to somebody else. And um, 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, Houston has to start getting things going. Um, 112 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is probably trying to figure out who do they want. 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: So you've got you've got four teams left now looking 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: to UM to hire coaches, and uh, I would imagine 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: things all get going pretty quickly. Definitely. Well, among some 116 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: of the other candidates that have been recorded reported there's 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, you know, former Sanford head coach, 118 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: David Shaw from Alliance and Colts head coached and called 119 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: well and of course Sean Payton, and you know Eric 120 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: just to start looking at Sean Payton. You know, it's 121 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of been reported that his candidae candidacy seems to be, 122 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, losing a bit of steam here. Yeah, it's interesting. 123 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody first assumed, hey, it's gonna be Jim Harbaugh, 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: and then everybody assumed after that, Okay, it's gonna be 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Um. And there you know, part of it 126 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: is the draft compensation. Of course, I think you've got 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: to decide, if you're the Broncos, is it worth it, 128 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: um to give up you know, first round pick has 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: been floated around a lot. Is it worth it to 130 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: give that up to get a coach? Or can you 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: find a coach that is brings the same value without 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: losing that draft capital or maybe better value. Um. And again, 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: we don't know that Sean Payton is out of it 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: by any means, but you're right, there are a lot 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: of reports last week that said, hey, he's he's the 136 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: front runner, he's in position to be hired. Um. You 137 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: don't know where that's coming from. I mean, it does 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: seem like the Broncos themselves have been pretty tight lipped 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: and not a lot has come out of the organization, 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: has come out of UCL training centers. So then you 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: start to wonder, okay, well where is this coming from? 142 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Some more reports um this week that's say, know, maybe 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton was worried about ownership. It just kind of 144 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: conflicts with what was said last week by some of 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the same reporters that Sean Patine is really excited about 146 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: the ownership group. So you wonder kind of what happened there. Um, 147 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: but you're right, it does seem like maybe that's lost 148 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of seam. Doesn't mean it couldn't change, 149 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: but kind of in this day to day cycle that 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: we're in, Um, it does seem you know, there were 151 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: reports that he was going to be here for an interview, 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and then their reports that that changed and and it 153 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: never got scheduled. So there's an arrant report about hunting. 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been all sorts of stuff that has 155 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: gone on, and I think that's probably you know, there's 156 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: been all this silence and there's been this void. People 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: are just trying to they're trying to figure things out. 158 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to, you know, throw stuff around and see 159 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: what what sticks. And um, so I think right now 160 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you've got to tune a lot of that out and 161 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: just trust the process. Um. Kind of as cliche as 162 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: that sounds, well, two other guys I want to look 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: at here is Dan Quinn and Jim Caldwell. Both are 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: reported to be also strong candidates for the position. What 165 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: do you like about those two and what do you 166 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: think that out here? I mean both former head coaches, 167 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: so they had that experience, and again I think that 168 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: in a perfect world, someone having that experience is helpful. Um. 169 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn took a team of the Super Bowl to 170 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: playoff appearances. Um, obviously there. You know he worked with 171 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and that's what got that team to the 172 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Didn't go quite as well after Kyle left, 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: but I do believe they made a playoff appearance without Kyle, 174 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: so still possible to have success. Um. He's a player 175 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: friendly coach. Guys love him. Has a really good defense 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: right now in Dallas. Um, he would be a really 177 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: strong hire, I think in a really good option. And 178 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: the same with Jim Caldwell, who you know has been 179 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: the head coach of a pair of teams, really respected 180 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: guy in this league. Led the Colts to a super 181 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Bowl appearance. Um, you know, really did well with Detroit 182 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: and was actually fired after a nine win season, which 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of in retrospect with what they've gone through the 184 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: last few years and wonder well why was he ever 185 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: let go? Um, he's been out of it a little 186 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: bit even just in terms of the coaching world. I 187 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: believe he had one season where he was an assistant 188 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: in the league. UM. But since his last year, I 189 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: believe you know, he hasn't He's just had that one year, 190 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: and so you wonder what is he gonna want to 191 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: jump back in full time after this half decade UM 192 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: or what's his ideal plan? There so two other strong candidates, though, 193 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: both with coaching experience and and sending right now, it's 194 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: hard to rule anything out until we know for sure, 195 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: and until because we don't have you know, if we 196 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: had second run interviews and you could say, okay, well 197 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: these three guys are are interviewing for the second time. 198 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: You know, these are the three finalists. We have no 199 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: idea who's a finalists. I mean, it's all kind of speculation, 200 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: media reports. At this point, we're all just trying to 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: to make our best guests. Hopefully we'll know sooner than later. 202 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: I hope. So are just a couple more here for you, 203 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: whoever it is that ownership does hire, What do you 204 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: think the next head coaches? I guess first order of 205 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: business would really be when they get here. Yeah, I 206 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: mean it's gonna start with the staff, right, I think 207 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the importance of putting together a really good staff was 208 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: under a mind UM emphasize. You know, it was clear 209 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: this year because I do think Nathaniel Hackett put together 210 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a staff that, especially on the offensive side of the 211 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: wall at the beginning, you know. And it changed a 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: little bit when you brought Jerry Rossberg in to help 213 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: manage the clock. But at the beginning it was very 214 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: inexperienced staff. And not to say there weren't guys with 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: NFL experience, but had a first time offensive coordinator in 216 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: Justin Outon at, a first time head coach and Nathaniel 217 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Hackett um. And so I think experience on the coaching 218 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: staff is important. Now that depends if you hire a 219 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: guy like Sean Payton or Dan Quinn, maybe it's less 220 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: important and you want or Jim Cardwell, maybe it's less 221 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: important and you want to bring in some young guys 222 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: around it kind of bring the energy up. If it's 223 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: a you know, a Damiko Ryan's like Mike cliss Is, 224 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: reporting could potentially happen UM as one of the favorites. 225 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: I do think that experience would be important, and especially 226 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: if it's a defensive minded guy like a Quinn, a 227 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's. The offensive coordinator is critically important because you 228 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: know you're not going to those guys are not going 229 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: to be I don't think, intimately involved in the offensive 230 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: scheme and the play calling obviously, so they'll help with 231 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the fourth down decisions, I would imagine, but they're not 232 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: um determining this scheme and so you've got to find 233 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: somebody there that works. And it's not always easy to 234 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: put together a staff. I mean, last year we saw 235 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett. I think he had ideas of who he wanted. 236 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: There are reports that Adam Stanovich in Green Bay Luke 237 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: get see that he wanted those guys as his OC. 238 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: It didn't work out that way, and so it's a 239 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: difficult process. UM. I would think that if it's is 240 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: a first time head coach like a Damiko Ryan's, George 241 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Peyton would be there to provide support, maybe Greg Penner 242 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: as well. If it is a more experienced coach like 243 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: a Dan Quinn, a gym calledwell Sean Payton, they probably 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: know what they're doing a little bit more. Um. But yeah, 245 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: that the staff is the first thing you got to 246 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: figure out. And you know, since we talked about, Hey, 247 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: when is this going to happen? And advantage of getting 248 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: it done sooner rather than later is you can get 249 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: that staff going because you don't want to be Yeah, 250 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to be the last team to put 251 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: that staff together. From a position group standpoint. And then 252 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: all so you look around the league. I think at 253 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: one point there were nine to tend teams that were 254 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: looking for new offensive coordinators, um a similar number of 255 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: looking for new defensive coordinators. You want the best at 256 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: that spot at whatever scheme you decide you want to run. 257 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: You want the best at that spot. And so the 258 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: longer you wait, you worry, well is this guy gonna 259 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: get you know, snapped up by this team? And so, um, 260 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: it'll be crucial that as soon as the new head 261 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: coaches in place, they start working on that staff. Outside 262 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: of you know, putting the staff together. What do you 263 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: think next on the list maybe getting that relationship going 264 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. Yeah, that's that's a good point. Um. 265 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain rules I think about what you 266 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: can talk about in terms of football versus non football, 267 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: but obviously, um, non football stuff is good, and you know, 268 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: have these conversations get to know Russell Um, certainly diving 269 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: into the film and seeing what he did well over 270 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: those last two weeks earlier in the season, what can 271 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: we do to to replicate that, to see more of 272 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: the old Russell Wilson quote unquote UM, And I think 273 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: just connecting with all the players and in setting an 274 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: understand ending of this is what the culture is going 275 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: to be. And it doesn't matter what it was like 276 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: a year ago or two years ago, or or guys 277 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: like Justin Simmons who have been here for a long 278 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: time and seen this will be about his fifth different 279 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: head coach. I mean, you've got to set an understanding 280 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: this is going to be different. This is how we're 281 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: gonna do things here. This is gonna be the culture 282 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: of accountability, of discipline. And in my mind, you know, 283 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: it's you can say that that starts team meeting number 284 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: one in April or whenever the guys come back, but 285 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: I think you've got to set that with the staff. 286 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: How you interact in the building with people, how you 287 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: challenge um the people around you to work to scout 288 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: guys for free agency for the draft. I mean I 289 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: would imagine that, you know, depending on who the coach 290 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: is it'll change. I would imagine their involvement in terms 291 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: of the final rosters, say, but they're going to be 292 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: involved in some way, and so, um, it's important to 293 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: start getting that culture set immediately so that by the 294 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: time the guys get here in April, you can tell, Hey, 295 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: it's different around here. And um, you know, said for 296 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: there are things that I really enjoyed about Nathaniel Hackett, 297 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: but I think it's clear things need to be different 298 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: from the way they are the last several years, and 299 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: so whoever you bring in, you gotta get started on 300 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: that right away. I agree. Yeah, I like that, build 301 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: the culture from the get go. All right, well, we'll 302 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: keep on waiting and see what happens. Hopefully we'll know 303 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: something sooner than later, but appreciate your time always, Eric. Well, 304 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: then i'll do it for this week's episode of Broncos 305 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Now Broncos Country. Thanks so much for tuning in. Make 306 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: sure to follow the Broncos Podcast Network on Twitter and 307 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos YouTube to stay up to date on 308 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: all the latest episodes. I will see you right back 309 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: here next week. We're another one.