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Speaker 1: should be here. He is to one and only. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean that sincerely. Underline it, Bucky Brooks. How are you,

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Speaker 1: my friend, man?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Andy.

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Speaker 1: How you doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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Speaker 1: It is Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to one and all,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to kind of honor the moms today.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, a little history lesson because you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're a lot smarter than we look, right Buck,

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Speaker 1: We really are. We're smarter than we People think that

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Speaker 1: we're rioting, people think we're stupid, but yeah, we screamed.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's sports. But this is serious stuff. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about moms. And we'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the history of Mother's Day. I've been people never stopped

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Speaker 1: to think about when did it start? How did it start?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Way back in eighteen fifty eight when Ann Jarvis, a

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Speaker 1: young Appalachian homemaker, organized Mother's Workdays to improve the sanitation

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Speaker 1: and avert deaths from the seas bearing insects and seep

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Speaker 1: its from polluted water. So in nineteen oh five, when

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Speaker 1: Anne Jarvers died, her daughter Anna decided to memorialize her

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Speaker 1: mother's lifelong activism and began a campaign that ended in

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Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen when Congress passed a Mother's Day resolution. How

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Speaker 1: do you like that? So happy Mother's Day to one

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Speaker 1: in all? Doing anything special today for Mother's Day? Fuck?

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Speaker 2: No, just get no, no, just hanging out. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: talk to her mom from afar so she'd become a

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Speaker 2: chrue good. Tell her.

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Speaker 1: I wish her a happy Mother's Day. She got one

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Speaker 1: hell of her son.

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Speaker 2: She really does, all right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I got a story over here which

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Speaker 1: is really about a special mom. It's kind of funny,

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Speaker 1: really is. It's kind of a genius. Really, IM going

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Speaker 1: back to January the ninth Tonia Stelly. She had to

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Speaker 1: be in two places at one time, and that's nothing

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Speaker 1: new because it becomes a tradition over the less three years,

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Speaker 1: whenever the NBA and the NHL schedules collide in just

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Speaker 1: the right way. Get this, the Knicks were playing the

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Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers inside Madison Square Garden. That was on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Her son, Quentin Grimes, a guard with the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: back and then curling, and he's now with the Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 1: He had a seven thirty tip off twenty miles to

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Speaker 1: the east. Her other son, Tyler Myers, defenseman for the

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Speaker 1: Vancouver Canucks, had a game at the same time against

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Speaker 1: the New York Islanders. So the mom has two sons,

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Speaker 1: one place in the NBA, one place in the NHL.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty pretty unusual. Really, is is great, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I love that those stories like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're a star, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. That doesn't impress you. You're an athlete, It

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Speaker 1: doesn't impress me. Come on, two sons in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That is a very impressive feat. I mean, okay, that's

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Speaker 2: A right like that?

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Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, everybody talks about the

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Speaker 1: playoffs I get it. You know, NBA has the draft

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Speaker 1: lottery today. Here's the thing. I mean, the NFL will

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Speaker 1: probably better than the NBA playoffs. Then the NBA does

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Speaker 1: everything the NFL. You know, does you know the the

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Speaker 1: the schedule release? This this what Thursday? I think it

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Speaker 1: is this Thursday, the schedule release, still have a separate

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Speaker 1: have like the draft lottery. Why can't they do something

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Speaker 1: don't know. Why wouldn't they have a special show on

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Speaker 1: a special day with no other games? I don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do that?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Major League Baseball, when they have the

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why they can't take a page of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, I make their deals bigger than

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Don't they do it at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the NFL three days for a draft

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I think it just shows you

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Speaker 1: They create that though in the NFL they created that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, really that bit of a deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I think I think it just

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's an amazing feed that they put

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Speaker 2: Goodella has done a really good job of expanding the brand.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the brand is just so big. They did it. Look,

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Speaker 2: they made it where there's something significant in football every

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Speaker 2: a false sport. They've made relevant four seven, three sixty five,

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Speaker 2: and so that's a testament to the game. But also

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Speaker 2: the marketing efforts and everything the league has done around

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and baseball is going to have their draft,

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Speaker 1: I guess in a couple of weeks. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to compare that to the NFL because

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Speaker 1: the NFL, they have the college kids and immediately they

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Speaker 1: the major leagues. So it's a different animal. It certainly is,

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Speaker 1: and it's difficult. I'm sure if you're a marketer for

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Speaker 1: but just lift it a little bit, I think, honestly,

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Speaker 1: major problems I think for the Major League Baseball getting

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Speaker 1: players in that league don't speak English. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: That that's been floated out there. And maybe there is

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Speaker 2: then also the pure talent, the pure talent of the

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Speaker 2: with them. Here's the thing, and we just talked about

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Speaker 2: the NFL compared to the other sports. The NFL made

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Speaker 2: it a point to always sell the team. See because

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Speaker 2: never leaves, all right. The NBA and other leagues they

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Speaker 2: sell their stars. Well. Then the free agency era, the

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Speaker 2: put fans in conflict because my favorite player has been

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Speaker 2: my fandom go with my player? Do I stay with

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Speaker 2: you always stay with your team no matter who leaves,

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Speaker 2: and so it's just a matter of the packaging. They've

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Speaker 2: that just makes it hard for fans to be loyal

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Speaker 1: But you know what, It's funny you mention that because

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Speaker 1: They're promoting quarterback versus quarterback. And when I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: I think that has created the one on one stuff

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Speaker 1: So I think that TV has done that. And look,

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Speaker 1: watch the Ravens. They don't say it's the Ravens against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. It's Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. I mean. And they give the

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Speaker 1: what's his record. It's not his record, it's the team's record.

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Speaker 1: But that's what they do. That's how they sell it.

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Speaker 2: It is how they said it. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I think the funny thing about when people

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Speaker 2: like that come from watching MLB and pitchers, because pictures

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Speaker 2: but you are right in terms of like their marketing

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Speaker 2: promotion on game day has been certainly about the players

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Speaker 2: and building the quarterbacks up because the NFL also felt

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Speaker 2: like it was big business to build a quarterback up.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't always about the quarterback, but it has become

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Speaker 2: it's easy to paint the defense of players as villains.

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Speaker 2: And that has been a big part of the marketing

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Speaker 2: have these conversations about the goat, which quarterback is the

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Speaker 2: greatest of all time. You just sat there and said

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Speaker 2: that it's a team game and the team wins or loses,

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Speaker 2: but we who's the goat? Based on what Super Bowl rings,

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Speaker 2: all year with the fans have been more in bold

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Speaker 2: than to say stuff, and we've seen players in particularly

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Speaker 2: in the NBA react differently than we've seen other leagues.

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Speaker 2: And so look, it's on the players to just kind

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Speaker 2: of like turn the other cheek regardless of what the

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Speaker 2: fan does. But I do understand how the annoyances can

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Speaker 2: lead a player who's already emotionally charged up to go

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Speaker 2: over that line.

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Speaker 1: I want to say one thing because I don't want

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Speaker 1: people to think that I'm picking on Patrick Beverley. You

441
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Speaker 1: could be a great guy and you have a great podcast,

442
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Speaker 1: but you could just have one slip up. And that's

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Speaker 1: what he did. Obviously back in twenty twenty one he

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Speaker 1: was here, would have won game suspension when he was

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Speaker 1: shoving Chris Paul. And what do I mean by that?

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy, I love him to death. I used to

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Speaker 1: work with him here on sports radio, and I remember

448
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Speaker 1: he told me a story that he ran into the

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Speaker 1: stands in Denver, a mile high stadium and beat the

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Speaker 1: living daylights out of a guy that threw a snowball

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Speaker 1: at him. All right, LEAGUELN. Kennedy's the greatest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would do anything for that man. He's wonderful. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just hit a nerve and it's like when

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Speaker 1: you go to the dentist he puts that air on

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Speaker 1: your tooth and you go nuts. It happens. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Patrick Beverley is a bad guy, but

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Speaker 1: he did a bad thing, that's all I'm saying. There, agreed, Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. Like he can't do that.

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Speaker 2: He can't throw the ball in the stands, like you

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Speaker 2: just can't do that. You can't have your players throwing

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Speaker 2: launching balls into the stands at fans and those things,

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Speaker 2: and just like you can't have your players climbing into

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Speaker 2: the stands to confront fans. There has to be that line.

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Speaker 2: You got to protect the players against themselves, and regardless

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Speaker 2: fan behavior, players always have to be above it. And

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Speaker 2: that's hard, but that's how it has to be because

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Speaker 2: you got to protect the image of the league.

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Speaker 1: All right, speaking of knuckle let's talk about Greg Doyle,

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Speaker 1: a columnless for the Indianapolis Store come out now that

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Speaker 1: he is uh, he's been suspended by The Indianapolis Star

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Speaker 1: without pay and he can no longer cover Indianapolis Fever

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Speaker 1: WNBA teams in person because what he did with Kaitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: If you remember the Kaitlin Clark introductory news conference, he

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Speaker 1: was there and he was talking about the fact that

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Speaker 1: she made a heart shape with her hands and she

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Speaker 1: says she does it because of her parents there, and

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Speaker 1: Clark says, do you like that? And Doyle came back

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Speaker 1: and says, yeah, I like that. I like that you here,

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Speaker 1: I like that you're here, okay, And Clark comes back

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Speaker 1: and says, yeah, I do that to my family every game.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. So Doyle comes back and says, well,

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Speaker 1: start doing it to me and we'll get along just fine.

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Speaker 1: What is he a creep? I mean, come on? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean and now the Indianapolis Star is saying that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he could cover the indian Indiana Fever games only on TV.

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Speaker 1: He can't go to the games in person, all right,

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Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do? You're gonna keep the guys?

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Speaker 1: Should he get fired? What's the why would someone do that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what he wouldn't do it to a guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if the guy did that to his parents,

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Speaker 1: made a heart, what do you do that to the guy?

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Speaker 2: Know?

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Speaker 1: What did he try to? Is he trying to hit

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Speaker 1: on Caitlyn Clark. I don't get it. Why don't people

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Speaker 1: do stupid things another knucklehead?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say it's kind of creepy behavior,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like she's super popular. The way that

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Speaker 2: it came off, it was so awkward watching the presser.

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Speaker 2: It's just a creepy thing. And when you think about

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Speaker 2: harassment and all those other things, like is Kaylyn Clark

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Speaker 2: ever gonna be comfortable in his presence because it's just creepy,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you want to protect athletes from creepy behavior.

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Speaker 2: And the Indian apl Star should have punished Doyle for

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Speaker 2: his behavior. It was over the line and even though

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Speaker 2: it wasn't overtly, it just felt slimy and slicy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he needed to be dealt with in those things.

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Speaker 2: And look at it's costly because Kayln Clark is good

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Speaker 2: for business. I mean she's blocked. I mean, look, she's

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Speaker 2: a box office. He's blockbuster when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: amount of fans and the amount of attention that she

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Speaker 2: commands the fact that he's been knocked off that beat

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Speaker 2: that hurts him.

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Speaker 1: Right, I wouldn't be surprised if they fire him. I

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Speaker 1: think that he may it fired.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing, you know, yeah, the only

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Speaker 2: thing I'll say is like, he's too good in other

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Speaker 2: areas to quote unquote get fired. I think this was

518
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Speaker 2: doing Warner shot and unless he had like a list

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Speaker 2: of prior behaviors that were similar to this, right, I

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Speaker 2: think you can have a little grace on him a

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Speaker 2: punish him, but don't necessarily fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you there. You know, he's a hell of

523
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Speaker 1: a writer, and years before he went to the Indianapolis Star,

524
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Speaker 1: he was doing some talk radio in Cincinnati. He's a

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Speaker 1: good guy. I don't know what made him go off

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Speaker 1: the deep end with this, and I think he was

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Speaker 1: just trying to be cute. I don't think he's To

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Speaker 1: her credit, she never said anything about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if media came through and said what

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Speaker 1: do you think about that? But she didn't come out

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Speaker 1: with any statement saying let me go, it's not a

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Speaker 1: big deal. She said nothing.

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Speaker 2: She give her credit. She's been a star for a

534
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Speaker 2: long time. She's dealt with all kinds of stuff, and

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Speaker 2: she's really handled herself well in front of the media

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Speaker 2: every time you've seen her, So I'm sure it's not

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Speaker 2: the first time that she's gotten some weird, weirdo stuff.

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Speaker 2: But it's just kind of weird. And let's let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: because in my mind I still see Kaitlyn Clark as

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Speaker 2: not a kid. But look, she's a young girl, he's

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Speaker 2: an older man. It's just some real creepy about it all.

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Speaker 1: And if that was your daughter, you'd be upset, right,

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Speaker 1: he's fucking Brooks. I'm ay Farma Fox Bo's Sunday on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Buto's raady.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, here's one challenge that we'd love

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Speaker 1: to see that's coming right up next Life from the

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Speaker 1: Tirack dot Com studio. But first, but first, the.

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Speaker 5: One and only Dan Byer with your Sports, Andy and

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Speaker 5: Bucky should be an interesting Sunday in the NBA. It

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Speaker 5: actually starts with the draft lottery at three o'clock Eastern time.

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Speaker 5: The Pistons and Wizards have the best odds to land

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Speaker 5: the number one old roll pick. Then it's Nicks Pacers,

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Speaker 5: Knicks without og Anobi, already ruled out because of that

554
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Speaker 5: hamstring strain. New York up two to one in the

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Speaker 5: series is Game four tips off at three thirty Eastern

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Speaker 5: time tonight. It's the Nuggets and Timberwolves in their Game

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Speaker 5: four now. Game three in Cleveland last night saw the

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Speaker 5: Celtics tomp the Cavaliers one O six to ninety three.

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum had thirty three points, thirteen rebounds, and six assists.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brown chipped in twenty eight as the Celtics are

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Speaker 5: up to to one in the series. In Dallas, the

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Speaker 5: Mavericks best of the Thunder one oh five to one

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Speaker 5: oh one. Dallas leads that series two to one. PJ Washington,

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Speaker 5: the Mavericks leading scorer. He had twenty seven on the ice.

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Speaker 5: Stars were victorious against the Avalanche four to one. Dallas

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Speaker 5: now leads that series two to one. The Rangers are

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Speaker 5: up three to one on the Hurricanes after Carolina stayed

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Speaker 5: alive avoiding the sweep, winning at home four to three.

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Speaker 2: In Game four.

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Speaker 5: Dodger Stars show Heo Tani left Saturday's five nothing win

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Speaker 5: against the Padres in the ninth inning because of back discomfort.

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Speaker 5: He's not likely to play in today's series finale. Athletics

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Speaker 5: drop the Mariners eight one, Angels were not three victors

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Speaker 5: against the Royals, and the Rockies were eight three victors

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Speaker 5: against Texas Xanders. Shoffley as a one shot lead over

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Speaker 5: Rory McElroy entering the final rounda the Wells far Go

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Speaker 5: Championship in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Bud Dupree Pass Rusher

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Speaker 5: has signed a two year deal with the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, thank you, dancying about an hour now.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to piggyback off her name with still right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. We'll get to that. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Firm. We got asked Bucky in about seven

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Speaker 1: eight minutes for now, and you know we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: knuckle heads. We got to get this guy in here way.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray from the Denver Nuggets. He was fine one

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Speaker 1: hundred grand, but he did not get a suspension. He

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Speaker 1: tossed a towel and then a heating pad of all things,

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Speaker 1: a heaty pit in the direction of an official during

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Speaker 1: the Denver one oh six to eighty win in Game two.

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Speaker 1: In that loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves back on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Why you know, it's the knucklehead Hall of Fame. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Got Greg Doyle, got Patrick Beverley, and now you got

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. And these are great players. I love watching

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Speaker 1: these guys play. I love reading Greg Oil in the

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Speaker 1: Midianapolis Star. I really do. He's a hell of a writer.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes it's like a flick of a switch in

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Speaker 1: your brain and just it happens. I mean, you've seen it.

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Speaker 1: You played the game, you were in the NFL. You've

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Speaker 1: seen guys that are somewhat quiet, so spoken, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, when the game goes on, the lights

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Speaker 1: go on, they go crazy, right Buck, you've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens. A different personality comes out, the competitive nature.

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Speaker 2: Can't ring about that. Frustration also brings about a different

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Speaker 2: side from players emotionally in those things. Yeah, Jamalmer, everything

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Speaker 2: was crazy to watch firsthand. I mean I kind of

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Speaker 2: get it, but I kind of don't. Like I don't

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Speaker 2: know why he threw the heapad there. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you have if you have a scene, just go have

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Speaker 2: a scene. Go have a conversation. Get thrown out that way.

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Speaker 2: To me, it was like real passive, aggressive and really

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Speaker 2: another immature act from a player. Did you kind of

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Speaker 2: expect more from.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen anybody teammates of yours or maybe an

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Speaker 1: opponent someone just flipping out and going nuts? Have you

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Speaker 1: seen that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're all prone to those moments, you know.

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Speaker 2: I al wonst say it's part of the sport, but

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Speaker 2: we all prone to kind of lose are cool at times.

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Speaker 2: It's just in the playoffs like this is when you

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Speaker 2: want kind of everyone to be button up, everyone to

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Speaker 2: be together and those things, and it's different. It's just

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Speaker 2: different to see these guys act like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this, I'm not picking on athletes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously we're in a sports arena right now, we talk

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Speaker 1: about sports, but it happens to everybody. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: an example. I worked at a great radio station in

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati for seven eighteen years seventeen or eighteen years, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW radio, great station. It really is fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: wats goes to thirty eight states at night. And I

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Speaker 1: said a couple of stupid things, I mean, upset a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, and one day the general manager called

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Speaker 1: me in his office may he rest in peace. And

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Speaker 1: he threw a telephone at me. I mean, they apologize,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he was crazy. I mean, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should have called an attorney. Maybe I would have owned

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Speaker 1: the station. I don't know, but I did. I that

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Speaker 1: was my head between my legs and that was the

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Speaker 1: end of it. But I didn't get fired, thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: But he threw a phone at me, said are you crazy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, because you were afraid they were

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Speaker 1: going to lose the contract. We had the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 1: on our station and the Cincinnati Bengals. And I said

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Speaker 1: something I think stupid about the Bengals, and they were

645
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Speaker 1: upset that they looked they were going to lose the contract.

646
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Speaker 1: And that was that's the big deal back then. And

647
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Speaker 1: he got crazy and it's all about money, you know,

648
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Speaker 1: And he picked out the phone off his desk and

649
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Speaker 1: he tossed at me. So that was the end of that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people they freak out. It happened sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I had a bad night. I

652
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Speaker 1: just don't know. Who knows. But I will say this,

653
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Speaker 1: this is pretty creative, Okay. I'm talking about the cornerback prospect,

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Speaker 1: the Cooper Degene of Iowa and now I was with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles when he was at Iowa. He was

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Speaker 1: at Iowa cornerback. He said he thought he could be

657
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark in a game of one on one. So

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Speaker 1: I think the guys maybe trying to, you know, piggyback

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Speaker 1: off her name. Perhaps, I don't know. He was a

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Speaker 1: star player in high school, right, And he said that

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Speaker 1: he could beat her one on one. He was on

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Speaker 1: a the ulpen Atoms of the podcast and said, she

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Speaker 1: texted me said she doesn't think that I could beat it,

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Speaker 1: is what Degene said, And he said he has almostly

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Speaker 1: spect for Kaitlin. He'd left to get on the court

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Speaker 1: for a game of one on one, and then he

667
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Speaker 1: doubled down. He said, he still thinks you could beat her.

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Speaker 1: The number one pick in the WNBA draft. I think

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Speaker 1: this would be a great thing. On one I don't

670
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Speaker 1: really care who wins. I think she probably will. But

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Speaker 1: why don't they do it for charity and put it

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Speaker 1: on TV?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you had two Iowa standouts. You certainly

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Speaker 2: culd raise a lot of money in town. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're like thinking that the locals will come out to

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Speaker 2: kind of see that and have a lot of fun

677
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Speaker 2: with it. I will tell you he's one of the

678
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Speaker 2: best athletes that Iowa has ever seen in high school.

679
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Speaker 2: Not only is a great basketball player, but he's an

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Speaker 2: outstanding track and field athlete stay champion, maybe in the

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Speaker 2: hundred and maybe the two hundred. Don't quote me on that,

682
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Speaker 2: but he has fantastic marks. One of the best athletes

683
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Speaker 2: in this draft class. So it would be fun to see.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly not as skilled as Kaitland Clark, but when

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Speaker 2: you have two iowould let ens, why not put them

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Speaker 2: together for look at charity event, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's such a big deal that he

688
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Speaker 1: said that. I think he did it, maybe not so

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Speaker 1: much in jest. I think he really believes he can

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Speaker 1: beat it. And I think that, you know, if it

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Speaker 1: was an offensive lineman, i'd left because I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lineman could do it because he's not as graceful,

693
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Speaker 1: he probably can't move as quick. But a cornerback, I

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Speaker 1: think this guy and he did play high school basketball,

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Speaker 1: and a good one at that. He probably could have

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Speaker 1: played basketball in Iowa, but he said he concentrated on football.

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Speaker 1: It could be a pretty good ball game. But as

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Speaker 1: you say, legends in the state of Iowa have it,

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Speaker 1: maybe at halftime during an an Iowa basketball game, So

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Speaker 1: I think they could raise some cash and do it.

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Speaker 1: And Caitlin was pretty good and getting back to him

702
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Speaker 1: at least and saying, I don't think he can beat me,

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Speaker 1: so let him play, but do it a halftime of

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Speaker 1: a fever game.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm so sure it's not the first time

706
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Speaker 2: that he's gotten word of it. I am pretty sure.

707
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Speaker 2: Like back in the day, all the athletes eat at

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Speaker 2: the same spy right you had training table and some

709
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Speaker 2: form or that still exists. It is not the first

710
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Speaker 2: time that a football player his talk slick to Caitlin Clark.

711
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Cooper Dejean has said that to her before

712
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Speaker 2: in the lunch line, you know, in a playful joking manner.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure he's done it. I mean, going all

714
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Speaker 2: the way back to when I was in school, like

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Speaker 2: the football team and the women's basketball team would always

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Speaker 2: go back and forth. Sometimes you would see those ladies

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Speaker 2: in the gym and everyone is playing pickup and getting

718
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Speaker 2: after it. It's kind of a part of the deal.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised to hear him challenge her to

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Speaker 2: a little one on one.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little lot out of the mainstream

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Speaker 1: right now. I got to ask you a question, because

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Speaker 1: you know what's going on. Do they still have athletic

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Speaker 1: dorms in college? A separate dorm for the athletes?

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Speaker 2: They put them all together. They're places that are you know,

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Speaker 2: they kind of lean. They prefer the athletes to stay.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like the seventies and eighties where the

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Speaker 2: athletes are all in one dorm. They have different housing

729
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Speaker 2: alternatives in those things. But every campus is also different.

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Speaker 2: I think they most most team most universities programs, they

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Speaker 2: kind of intermingle the athletic teams for the regular student population.

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Speaker 1: I tell you why I asked that because when I

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Speaker 1: was the sports information guy at Old Roberts University, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I worked for the Reverend Roberts for two years.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: The athletes is the basketball team, baseball team, they were

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Speaker 1: all in one doing the athletic doom and they had

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was unbelievable. They had the greatest meals

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Speaker 1: in the world. So I was a single guy, young guy.

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Speaker 1: I would eating the athletic doom with those guys almost

741
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Speaker 1: every night. But I had no idea that you know,

742
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Speaker 1: they're getting billed for it. So the athletic threat that

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Speaker 1: called me in when they said, you know, you really

744
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Speaker 1: got to back off a little bit. I'd go there

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Speaker 1: five days a week. I mean they were getting steaks.

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Speaker 1: Oh j they're getting steaks.

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Speaker 2: Stair way.

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Speaker 1: You go to the cafeteria. Do you get a tuna

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Speaker 1: fish sandwich? You know, a blt. I'm going to the

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Speaker 1: athletic doom. I'm getting steak and mashed potatoes and the

751
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Speaker 1: whole deal as much as you want. So I'd go

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Speaker 1: down there, you know, four or five days a week.

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Speaker 1: So the ad called me in his office, and don't

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Speaker 1: forget off the athletic or the Bob Brooks good man.

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Speaker 1: It really was, he says, a big southern drawling landy.

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Speaker 1: You got to back off just a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting these bills from the athletic them. You're eating

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Speaker 1: down there every day. But I wasn't know if they

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Speaker 1: still have that.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was good for me because I got

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Speaker 1: to meet the athletes pretty good, and you get to

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Speaker 1: know who they are, and they trusted me and I

764
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Speaker 1: could get some stories on these guys. So it was good,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't realize that they didn't even know if

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Speaker 1: they still have athletic domes anymore. Who knows, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's changed a little bit, just like the traditional

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Speaker 2: training table has changed. Where it used to be one

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Speaker 2: designated area where all the athletes had to eat. Then

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Speaker 2: it became able to give you a meal card and

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Speaker 2: let you go all over campus. Right, So it's changed.

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Speaker 2: They've continued to progress how they grew about feeding the

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Speaker 2: athletes and also the living situation. When I was in school,

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Speaker 2: we didn't necessarily have one athletic dorm, but the athletes

775
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Speaker 2: were given like three or four choices of where you

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Speaker 2: wanted to live, especially as a freshman, and that continued

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Speaker 2: to change as you got older. You could pick other

778
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Speaker 2: dorms to go to, but you didn't have just a

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Speaker 2: one designated dorm for athletes.

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Speaker 1: All right, I hear all right, I'm glad. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: I was there at the time when I was there

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Speaker 1: because the stakes were pretty good. All Right, he's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman. We all Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready,

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Speaker 1: you got questions, He's got the answers. Ask Bucky is next,

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Speaker 1: don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Ask Bucky coming

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Speaker 1: right up, He's Buckey Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, Whell Fox

787
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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and I will lie

788
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Speaker 1: from the tyrock dot Com studio. All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: You got a question for Bucky Brooks eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: ninety on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty

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Speaker 1: three six to night. But let's go here we go.

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Speaker 1: Ask Bucky now a combination question here. You're a pick.

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Speaker 1: You're an NBA general manager.

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Speaker 2: You u pick?

795
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Speaker 1: Who do you take? Jalen Brunson, the new superstar in

796
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Speaker 1: the NBA, or Jason Tatum.

797
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh that's easy. I'm gonna take Jason Tatum. You always

798
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: go with bigger, faster, stronger. Always he's longer, he's more dynamic.

799
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Speaker 2: I love Jason Jenden Brunson's greediness and toughness, but you

800
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: always have to have size over the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, I didn't think you'd go that way. Okay,

802
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you another one. Donovan Mitchell or Jimmy Butler buckets.

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Speaker 2: M I love Jimmy Butler and as I got, Dan

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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Byrd knows I'm a Miami heat fans. So I'm gonna

805
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Speaker 2: go with Jimmy Buckets.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough one because I think Mitchell's

807
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: up and coming superstar and Butler's getting hurt lately, So

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Speaker 1: I think I may have gone with Mitchell. I don't know.

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: All right, here's one for you. Name an NFL team

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: that missed the playoffs last year, and we'll probably get

811
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year.

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00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: Mm Now, does that include play in or as long

813
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Speaker 2: as the postseason?

814
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: As long as you're in the postseason?

815
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: Okay, they they're out, but they will make it this year.

816
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: So let's go with the Uh, let's go to Charlotte

817
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: Hornets because that's the only team I can think of

818
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: right now. The NFL is Charlotte Hornets. Oh NFL, I

819
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Speaker 2: thought you were talking about. I think you said NBA.

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Speaker 2: We go from Okay, yeah, oh that's easy, Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Really, what about my Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they can go back to But you just

823
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Speaker 2: told me pick one.

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00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: I just saying, okay, all right, yeah, but your opinion matters,

825
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Not now, I don't think

826
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Speaker 1: the Bengals. I don't think they go to the playoffs. Now,

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Speaker 1: all right, here's the deal. Are you four or against

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Speaker 1: NFL games on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 2: Oh? On for it? I am all for it. Now

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Speaker 2: this this year is weird because I think it falls

831
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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, But I am all for the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It used to be an NBA holiday. That was when

834
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: kind of the NBA dating to the public. But yeah,

835
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Speaker 2: the the NFL is eating that up. And uh, what's

836
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Speaker 2: better than to celebrate the holiday with football on all day?

837
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Speaker 2: And should be a triple header. Two. I want people

838
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Speaker 2: all day, just like just like we treat Thanksgiving same thing.

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Speaker 2: I want. I want it all day.

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Speaker 1: Hey, here's the question. I thought that they were going

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Speaker 1: to release the schedule last week, and now they're going

842
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Speaker 1: to do it this week the schedule reveal. I think

843
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Speaker 1: one of the hold ups is in fact the Christmas

844
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Speaker 1: Day situation, because, as you say, it's on a midweek.

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Speaker 1: They may try to move those games maybe to a Friday,

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Speaker 1: but it won't be Christmas. What do you think is

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Speaker 1: that possible?

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Speaker 2: I mean it could be possible, but also could be

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Speaker 2: possible that they are maybe working on a deal for

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Speaker 2: new broadcast partners for those Christmas games, and so maybe

851
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Speaker 2: all that stuff because I have read discovered about that.

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00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Maybe Netflix and some other people are trying to get in.

853
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Speaker 2: Maybe they're they're trying to seal that off. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: they're trying to sell that off to be able to

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Speaker 2: get it done. Let me, Andy, more is better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Better?

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing you. I know, I hear you. Okay. The

859
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: biggest surprise this year in the NBA Playoffs the New

860
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: York Knicks, Oklahoma City, Cleveland Calves or Minnesota Timberwolves. M

861
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: bigger story, I would say surprise, biggest surprise.

862
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: Maybe bigger surprise. I would say the Minnesota Timberwolves only

863
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: because it's been a revelation for ant man Anthony Edwards

864
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: and then watching Karl Anthony Towns and those guys kind

865
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: of do their thing that has been interesting. So yeah,

866
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves.

867
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like what they're doing against Denver.

868
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I would want to see him take them out. But

869
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I little upset that they're comparing Anthony Edwards. You're ready

870
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: to MJ, I mean back off a little bit? Will

871
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: you back off? Just to drop? All right? Biggest event?

872
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: Here's a bit his order of events and which one

873
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: is the biggest one? The NFL Draft, the Major League

874
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Baseball All Star Game, or the NCAA Basketball reveal on

875
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: that special Sunday.

876
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, game, there you go.

877
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all for you. Bucky has his top five

878
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: coming up next. Stay with us Fox all right, one

879
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: NFL rookie, some real moxie. We'll get to that in

880
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: about ten minutes, but right now, this group just might

881
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Speaker 1: shock you. That's coming right up. Good morning, this is

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, He's Bucky Brooke,

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Speaker 1: And Bucky, what's going on? How's life? Life treating you

889
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: well on Mother's Day?

890
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Everything is good, no complaints. Mom is doing well.

891
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Everything is all right.

892
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Bad day to get into a restaurant today. You probably

893
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: have to get reservations six months in advance to get

894
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: into a restaurant on a day like today. I'm sure

895
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: of it.

896
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: It's bad. Yeah. The most popular holiday in the eating

897
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: restaurant industry. Yeah, so it's gonna be tough to get

898
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: tough to get a seat anywhere, right.

899
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was listening to the Sports Update at top

900
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: of the hour and it was great because he had

901
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: Dan Bayer doing it. He was told about that Celtics

902
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: win yesterday one O six ninety three over the Cavaliers

903
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: to go two up in the series against Cleveland, and

904
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: I heard I think it was a Jalen Brown who said,

905
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: we didn't come to Cleveland for the weather. I love that.

906
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: I love that attitude, you know, you know, the intensity,

907
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: you know. And it's funny because you talk about this

908
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: inconsistency of the of the Boston Celtics, and what do

909
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean by that. I mean this team right now,

910
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: in twenty eight home playoff games, they are fourteen and fourteen,

911
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: but now they're eighteen and seven on the road. So

912
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: basically they get it done on the road. And that's tough.

913
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: It's tough in the in the NBA, it really is.

914
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean the Celtics, they've been the best team in

915
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: the NBA. They have over the last three years. They

916
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: made the finals in twenty twenty two. The average fifty

917
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: seven wins a year and their East playoff seeds and

918
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: those seasons are two, two and one, and they want

919
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: to watch sixty four games this past year. But they've

920
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: got unpredictable. They got popped the other day in against

921
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: Cleveland and now they came back. So I think that

922
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: still they're everybody's favorite. I think to still win it all.

923
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: But you just don't know what you get. But when

924
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: I hear a guy saying we didn't come to Cleveland

925
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: because of the weather, I love that. I mean, he's hungry.

926
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: They want to win. They gotta win. They really do.

927
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely want to win. And here's what I

928
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: will say about all of it. The Boston Celtics have

929
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: had their heartbroken a few different times. Like they've been

930
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: This team has been together five six years with Jayden

931
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Brown and Jason Tatum, so they've been through the ups

932
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: and downs. They've gotten close, but they haven't been able

933
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: to finish it. That experience matters. They're more grizzled team.

934
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: They're really connected. Their style can kind of sometimes lead

935
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: other teams to have good days against them because they're

936
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: sober lint on the three point shot and when it's

937
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: not going, it allows the game flow to kind of

938
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: go back to the opponent's way. But this is a

939
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: talented team, the most talented team in the NBA from

940
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: top to bottom. Their rosters well constructed, and so it's

941
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: all them to be able to get it done. But

942
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: this should be the year that they get it done.

943
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they will. I really do. And I

944
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: think that you talk about the team that is defending

945
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: the championship their Denver, I think they're a little rocky

946
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: right now. Against Minnesota, I mean they found some flows,

947
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: but the timber will those defense has been unbelievable, tremendous defense.

948
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: I haven't seen defense in that that in the NBA

949
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: like that in the years. A great defense with Minnesota

950
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: great and they've been pretty good games. If I have

951
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: one downer as far as I'm concerned with these players

952
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: right now, I still think they're a little too long.

953
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: I like to see these series and they'd be a

954
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: little more exciting if they were best three out of

955
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: five instead of four out of seven.

956
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you'll see more upsets. But is that what

957
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: you want? Well, you know, I want three out of five.

958
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: Three out of five is tough.

959
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: It's real tough, but you know, what the less less

960
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: games would be less opportunity for injury because these guys

961
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: are going down like flies right now. You know, Luca

962
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: got hurt yesterday and he's gonna play, but he was

963
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: limping around and seeing these guys are twisting ankles and

964
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: getting bumped in And the physicalness of this game it's

965
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: like football, I mean really and truly. The bumping and

966
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: grinding and banging, it's unbelievable. Really officiating, you know, I'm

967
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: not gonna knock it, but it's tough. It's tough to

968
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: officiate these games. The games is so fast, so quick,

969
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: and it's like you got to make those calls, you know,

970
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: you got to really do it. And h there's a

971
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of pushing and shoving. It really is.

972
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of pushing and shoving now. And I'll

973
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: say this, this was a college game. I went to one.

974
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: I went to the Sweet sixteen to see North Carolina

975
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: take on Alabama. I was amazed at how physical the

976
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: games were. And if that's at the collegiate level, I

977
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: can only imagine how much more physical it is in

978
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: the NBA and how the intensity and the physicality ramps

979
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: up as you advanced through the postseason. So now these

980
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 2: guys are playing, I mean like this is game point

981
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: at the park. No files, They're just kind of beating

982
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: people up, and you have to get used to what

983
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: it looks like. The entire regular season they played one

984
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: way is free flowing or whatever, and now it's kind

985
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: of grounded to a halt, like where you're really having

986
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: to work per possession. Yeah, that's made it ug. They

987
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: made a different product to watch for sure, no.

988
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Doubt about that. Now now I'm gonna talk about Bucky

989
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: Brooks's bread and butter. Which is the NFL. Not that

990
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: you don't know sports, you do your sports, god what

991
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: you really are, but the NFL and you write NFL

992
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: dot Com. I say this time and time again. I mean,

993
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: if you don't see this on Friday, you don't punch

994
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: it up on NFL dot Com and scroll down to

995
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: the Riders and see buckets beautiful face, then you're crazy

996
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: because what he writes is is just you got to

997
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: gobble it up and read it. And this week was

998
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of interesting because you had the top five past

999
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: catching groups in the NFL, and I got to ask you,

1000
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: how do you decide on which are the top five

1001
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: past catching groups and which is weighted heavier in your decision,

1002
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: the receiver or the quarterback.

1003
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the quarterback is a part of it

1004
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: because they're the point guard, but ultimately it's the people

1005
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: that put it in the hole. And what you're seeing

1006
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: is teams are really invested in their receiver corse and

1007
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: doing all kinds of different stuff to kind of make it,

1008
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: to create mismatches, to exploit mismatches and those things. And

1009
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: so I think the most important part is really the

1010
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: complementary fits of the playmakers on the perimeter. How do

1011
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: they match up. You don't want all of them to

1012
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: be exactly the same. You're like a quick guy, a

1013
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: bigger guy, someone that's in the middle that can be

1014
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: a route runner, and you want to see him go.

1015
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: But this was really really difficult because the landscape has

1016
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: changed so much at wide receiver that it certainly has

1017
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: impacted the way that I look at these past casting duos.

1018
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's start right now. You said the Miami

1019
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins basically other number one of past catching groups, and

1020
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, I can't disagree. I mean, they got Tyreek

1021
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: Hill and Jalen Waddle and now they just signed Odell

1022
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior, which I think is gonna help. It's not

1023
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: going to be pushing them over the top, because I

1024
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: think with Hill and Waddle they've been right there anyway.

1025
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: But Beckham's going to be the third guy. He'll be

1026
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: the third receiver there. But you know, with two of there,

1027
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be an explosive situation

1028
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: that combined for like about eighty seven pass plays as

1029
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: you wrote last year, twenty plus yards. Since he'll arrive

1030
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two, So yeah, I can't argue

1031
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: with that. So Miami Dolphins number one? Was it the

1032
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: toughest for you to get the Dolphins number one?

1033
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: It was tough because the next team, the Philadelphia Eagles,

1034
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: are right there nipping on their heels. Everything that I

1035
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: can say about the Miami Dolphins, I could say the

1036
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: same thing about the Philadelphia Eagles. When it comes to

1037
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: the top two weapons, AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. Both

1038
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: guys have gone back to back over one thousand yards.

1039
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: AJ Brown has been terrific as the code number one,

1040
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: but then Devonte Smith has had an opportunity to feel

1041
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: in as the number one when AJ Brown has not

1042
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: been available, and he has also been outstanding. The difference

1043
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: between the two could come down to basically Obj being

1044
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: the number three receiver compared to Dallas Goddard being the

1045
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: third option in the passing game as a tied end

1046
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: over the middle of the field. That was the difference.

1047
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: So I gave Obj the not but just a slight

1048
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: advantage in terms of the Miami Dolphins over the Philadelphi Egles.

1049
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm gonna make a little tough because you

1050
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: know it's just getting really easy for you. I'm going

1051
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: to make it tough for you. Make it earn your

1052
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: keep there, Bucket Brooks. Let's talk about this for a second.

1053
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: I hear you. You got one A and one Philadelphia

1054
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Eagles one A and you guys the Dolphins one. What

1055
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: would happen if you switch quarterbacks? If Jalen Hirts was

1056
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in the Dolphins and two was quarterback in the Eagles,

1057
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: would you still have the same one two punch one

1058
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: in one A? Would it be the same for you?

1059
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean like it could, but then the style of

1060
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: play would have to change because Jalen Hurst's strengths are

1061
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: different than two at tanga by Lawd's strimps, Jalen Hurts

1062
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: gives you the ability to do some things on the ground.

1063
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: So I'm sure Mike McDaniel would tap into those parts

1064
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: of his game as well. I still would put the

1065
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: pass catching groups. I still would have them the same

1066
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: because I think from a talent standpoint, they're more talented

1067
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: at the lower part of the roster, meaning wide receiver three,

1068
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: four and five than those guys. And that's the decide

1069
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: in fact, because we can say that those other guys

1070
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: cancel each other out AJ Brown and DeVante Smith. They

1071
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: canceled out the impacts of Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle,

1072
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: So now it's about who's remaining. Who are your other pieces?

1073
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: And I just believe more in the Miami Dolphins other

1074
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: pieces than the Eagles.

1075
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, okay, And I think that

1076
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: also the Dolphins rely more on the passing game than

1077
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Eagles really I remember not last year, but

1078
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: the season prior to. At the halfway point, there was

1079
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: some problems on the offense, and they started banging it

1080
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: out on the ground and they did a great running game.

1081
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: That's what they did. They kind of went away from

1082
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the passing game a little bit isn't that true.

1083
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: It is true. They went away from it for a

1084
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: little bit, but it's still the threat of the playmakers

1085
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: on the perimeter that matters. And so you're just evaluating

1086
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: the playmakers and that so style of play factors in,

1087
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: but from a talent standpoint, from a production standpoint, you

1088
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: still got to lean on what you have on the perimeter.

1089
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: All right, Number three, I'm not going to say I'm

1090
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: shocked at it, but I'm somewhat surprised that all of

1091
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: a sudden this team has become not only the darlings

1092
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: of the National Football League, but a contender. They're talking

1093
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: about them as being a contender, saying of the Houston

1094
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Texans because the addition to Stefan Diks is a is

1095
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: a big deal. Stefan Diggs coming in there is big.

1096
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're CJ. Stroud, you got to

1097
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: be thanking the stars above because comes into the league

1098
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: and look what he's got to work with. Right now,

1099
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: this team really and truly is a contender. They really are.

1100
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: They are a continent and their contender because he gave

1101
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: them the ability to imagine themselves as a contender. C J.

1102
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Stroud's surprise and play as a rookie has enabled the

1103
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: front office to be like, oh, we need to step

1104
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: it up because we got a special quarterback. And when

1105
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: you get a special quarterback, you want to surround him

1106
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: with the special pieces that allows him to play at

1107
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: his best. And the window was short and small considering

1108
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: how much they can pay on the perimeter because they

1109
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: have him on his rookie deal. Once he gets paid,

1110
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: you now have to usher in younger players to do it.

1111
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: But what I like about the Texans and Stefan Diggs

1112
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: and Nico Collins and even tang Deal, they all are

1113
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: different and they're interchangeable styles. They're complimentary styles really kind

1114
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: of completes this Taxans passing attack. And then when you

1115
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: throw Dalton Schultz in there, they have four different type

1116
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: pass catchers that they can lean on depending on circumstances

1117
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: situation to be able to get it done. But in digs,

1118
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: you talk about a guy who was in the eight

1119
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: hundred catch club, a guy who has like six straight

1120
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: one thousand yard seasons, Nico Collins coming off a breakout

1121
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: year where he had well over one thousand yards and

1122
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: was dominated on the perimeter with big plays, and tang

1123
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: Dale for the time that he was on the field,

1124
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: he was an unstoppable force as a big play weapon.

1125
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of playmakers, and maybe

1126
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: I make the argum maybe I should have put the

1127
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: Texans up even higher than I did, But to put

1128
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: him at three, I mean, this is really this is

1129
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: a really good outfit. This is a really good unit.

1130
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Nico Collins for a second. He's got

1131
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: pretty good size by six four, as you say, two fifteen.

1132
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: But here's the deal. He played for Michigan, which really

1133
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: and truly not a great passing ball club. You know,

1134
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: how surprised were you that that even this team drafted

1135
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: him and what he's done in the National Football League

1136
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: and not going to go back to Tank Dell. Certainly,

1137
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, he had a good year, no doubt about that,

1138
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: a real good year, but again, not playing at a

1139
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: major I hate to say that, but it's really Houston

1140
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: was not really a major deal. Now they're in the

1141
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Big twelve for sure, and they're going to compete because

1142
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: when you're in a better conference, you attract better players.

1143
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: But at the time, I don't think Houston, when you

1144
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: consider them a major college football power.

1145
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: They weren't a major in football power. But you saw

1146
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: the flashes, and the flashes were tang Deal. Just the athleticism,

1147
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: the playmaking ability to to showed when he got his

1148
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: hands on the ball in those things and a lot

1149
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: A big part of success in the National Football League

1150
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: for players depends on can I go to a system

1151
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: that really fits my skill set? And for tang Deal,

1152
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: they put him in a role as a you know,

1153
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: slot receiver, as a big play specialist. That worked for him.

1154
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: He was averaging over fifteen yards to catch prior to

1155
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: his injury. In Nico Collins, what you had is someone

1156
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: from Michigan who was a terrific what we call hightwaight

1157
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: speed athlete, great size over sixty four two fifteen speed,

1158
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: fast enough to be able to run past defenders on

1159
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: the perimeter, and then just the strength, like when you

1160
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: have that size that comes with some strength to it

1161
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: that allows you to kind of be a bully on

1162
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: the perimeter. He's dominated and it took him two years

1163
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: for it to kind of work, and then his third

1164
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: year he had to break out season. But you're talking

1165
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: about a guy that had over twelve hundred yards who

1166
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: really thrived as the number one receiver. You put him

1167
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: opposite of Stefan Diggs. Now the defenders have to make

1168
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: a choice, who's the number one guy? Who should we stop?

1169
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: Who should we tilt the covers to. It just should

1170
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: open up the field for CJ. Stroud, And I would

1171
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: think that he would even have more success this season

1172
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: than last season because he's more comfortable and he has

1173
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: a better supporting cast on the perimeter.

1174
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: I unbelieve. Look, you got this team ranked fourth is

1175
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: the best pass catching combination. And if you would have

1176
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: told me this a year or so ago, I would

1177
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: I would have laughed. I really would have. This is

1178
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: amazing to me. The Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears, I

1179
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: mean really interested wide receivers on the base. This will

1180
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: make Sid Luckman proud, you know. To me, Sid Luckman

1181
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: was the last time they had a decent quarterback. I

1182
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: get it, they had a couple since you could even

1183
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: throw Mitchell Trubisky in there. He was somewhat decent when

1184
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: he played there. But now the Chicago Bears would pass catchers.

1185
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: Come on, I know DJ Moore is gonna help, There's

1186
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. In Keenan Allen, but how do

1187
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: you put the bears up there at four.

1188
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's just talk about the talent that

1189
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: they accumulated. DJ Moore they got in a trade for

1190
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick, which has been great. That

1191
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: is the pick that keeps giving. So they get DJ Moore,

1192
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: a number one receiver. They make a trade to get

1193
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, and then they draft a guy like Rome

1194
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: A Doomsday who is the perfect fit to go with

1195
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: those two guys because in DJ Moore you got to

1196
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: catch and run specialist, someone you just want to get

1197
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: the ball to and let him go to work. Keenan

1198
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: Allen is a route running specialist. I mean he is

1199
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: a route runner. He gets open, he works in the slot.

1200
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: He can do a bunch of different things. Roma Dounze

1201
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: is kind of a blend of both. He's a great

1202
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 2: route runner. He has size to win down the red zone.

1203
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: He can make plays with the ball in his hands

1204
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: because he has pump return skills. You now have three

1205
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: bigger guys on the perimeter that can dominate using their

1206
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: physicality and toughness. And then thinking about the city, because

1207
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: remember it's important playing in Chicago, windy conditions, cold weather,

1208
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: you need tough guys on the perimeter, big durable, physical

1209
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: guys that can hold up. Well, all of those guys

1210
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: can do it. You throw in Cole Commet and we

1211
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: didn't even talk about Gerald Everett. But they have so

1212
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: many people that they can throw out there to have

1213
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: a lot of success. Yeah. I never would have thought

1214
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: that we would be talking about the Beyers as an

1215
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: offense that could be like fun and explosive and all

1216
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: of that. But here's where we are when it comes

1217
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: to their personnel.

1218
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Okay, but there's one major question out there. Can Caleb

1219
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Williams deliver the ball to them? That's the key right there.

1220
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they got the guys with the hands, they

1221
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: got the guys with the speed, but now they got

1222
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Can he get it done with these guys?

1223
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean I think so. I mean we haven't. I mean, look,

1224
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: it's rare that guys hit the ground running coming into it.

1225
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: But there's no reason why he can't do what CJ.

1226
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: Stroud did. He has a terrific supporting cast around him.

1227
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: A lot of it, though, will fall on the offense

1228
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: coordinator Shane Walser kim waldon draw up an offense that

1229
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: makes the game easy for Williams, but doesn't restrict him

1230
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: where he loses some of that special ability.

1231
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: I hear and last, but not least number five with

1232
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: the pass catching combo the Seattle Seahawks tell me why

1233
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: and who?

1234
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: Well, this was a tough one man, because it came

1235
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: down to the Seattle Seahawks and the Ten Bay Buccaneers

1236
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: for me, So its this combination versus Mike Evans, Chris

1237
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: got one and those guys the reason why the Seahawks

1238
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: got the nod. DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and Jackson Smith

1239
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: and Jigba are just like a really solid trio. You

1240
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: think about DK Metcalf, big fast, physical, really takes the

1241
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: top off the defense, just a big time playmaker being

1242
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: able to get it done. And Tyler Lockett and Smith

1243
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: and Jigba, these guys are very very similar in terms

1244
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: of like they can win with speed and explosiveness or

1245
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: they can win with like savvy as route runners. Lockett

1246
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: is I would say kind of like dipping or coming

1247
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 2: back to the pack in terms of his talent because

1248
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: he's getting older, But Jackson Smith and Jigba is there

1249
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: to kind of jump into their role so their roles

1250
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: could actually flip where JSN becomes the number two and

1251
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett becomes the number three. Regardless, all of that

1252
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: really really works well and they fit together. The postal

1253
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: pieces really fit, which is why gen Smith should have

1254
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: success when he's throwing out there. And one of the

1255
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: underrated additions to Mike McDonald's staff was being able to

1256
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: get Ben Grubb to stay in the Pacific Northwest become

1257
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator after really dominated at UB. This offense

1258
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: should have some really intriguing concepts and designs that allows

1259
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: a group of route runners to really explode on the

1260
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: rest of the league.

1261
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: How how close were the Cincinnati Bengals there in your

1262
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: top five because you said you have Tampa Bay and

1263
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: Seattle kind of going for five? Where they did they

1264
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: make the top ten? No?

1265
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: So no, no, Cincinnati's right there. But here here's what

1266
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: I would say. Love the first two guys, t Higgins,

1267
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. Who's next though, right, yeah, Tyler Board really

1268
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: really hurt him. And then tight end like like have

1269
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: a dominant tight end over the middle of the field.

1270
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: So that's what left behind and you can make the

1271
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: argument that they should be there because the top two

1272
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: two guys are so good but for me, I just

1273
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: felt like the depth of the other teams and other

1274
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: areas just made it where you just had to put

1275
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: those guys in the conversation. There you go.

1276
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on NFL dot Com every Friday.

1277
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: He's got a column. Scroll down to NFL Writers and

1278
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: you'll see that. And you want to get him right

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Speaker 1: now on Twitter at Bucky Brooks at Andy Furman FSR.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you at eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox. That translates to eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. This alur Ban

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Speaker 1: and barrel betting, and of course the blame game of

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Speaker 1: nour number three, but one NFL rookie, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: has some real moxie. That's next is cockiness. Good well,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He

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Speaker 1: is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, who went live from

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Speaker 1: the Ti rack dot com studios. And you know why

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Speaker 1: we talk about cockiness. I guess cockiness and confidence sort

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Speaker 1: of go hand in hand. I don't know. We'll go

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Speaker 1: about this number one draft pick of the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold play for Alabama. He arrived Friday at

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions practice facility, first day of rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 1: and he was wearing bucka wearing a jersey number zero.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: First round pick said he chose the number because, quote,

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Speaker 1: ain't nobody like me, all right. He's just the third

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Speaker 1: player in franchise history for the Lions to select number zero,

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Speaker 1: joined the fullback Johnny Ozelski back in nineteen sixty one,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, the wide receiver back in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: And he says, quote, when I say it ain't nobody

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Speaker 1: like me, it's talking about the secondary. This is what

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Speaker 1: he said. He said, Obviously, last year in this secondary

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Speaker 1: we had ups and downs. But we're going to be exciting.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be dynamic, we're going to play fast,

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Speaker 1: and it ain't going to be nobody like us. So

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Speaker 1: when I say it ain't nobody like me, it ain't

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Speaker 1: nobody like me, all right. So I asked you this.

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Speaker 1: He picked number zero, and the reaction that he probably

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Speaker 1: got from teammates, you played the game. You see a guy,

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Speaker 1: a cocky rookie coming in there. There's one thing to

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Speaker 1: be confident, another thing to be cocky, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: shake your head. I remember what Marvin Lewis said when

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Speaker 1: he was coaching the Cincinnati Bengals. I see better than

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Speaker 1: I hear. You know, sometimes it's just best to get

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Speaker 1: your job done and show your cockiness and confidence on

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Speaker 1: the field rather than with your mouth and tongue.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't mind it, because when you get to

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Speaker 2: that level, like, it's really a mental game and it's

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Speaker 2: your self belief, your determination and your resilience that determines

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Speaker 2: whether you make it or not. Uh Fitterian And for

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Speaker 2: a lot of these young guys like that swag, particularly

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Speaker 2: if it's real, genuine swag in confidence, it is the

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Speaker 2: difference between being good and great. And so I don't

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Speaker 2: mind it. I don't mind a player having that as

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Speaker 2: long as they have the other things that you have

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Speaker 2: to have from a football character standpoint and so and

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Speaker 2: from football character we mean work ethic, toughness, the determination,

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Speaker 2: the resilience to bounce back from poor moments. If you

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Speaker 2: have all of those other things with the football IQ,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, you can bring all the confidence and swagger

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Speaker 2: that you want because I know you're built the right way,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to handle having the target on your chest.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to bother you when people

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Speaker 2: go at you because of what you say in the

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Speaker 2: flamboyans that you may exhibit. So I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I never have a problem with players being like that,

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Speaker 2: provided they go about their business the right way.

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Speaker 1: All right. I would say this is a pretty good

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Speaker 1: pick on pay. But because even though the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: reached the NFC Championship Game for the first time last

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Speaker 1: year since nineteen ninety one, their defense allowed thirty four

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Speaker 1: completions thrown at least twenty yards downfield that I tied

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Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans for the second most in the

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Speaker 1: league behind the Cincinnati Bengals thirty five. And Detroit's defense

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Speaker 1: also allowed twenty eight passing touchdowns last year that was

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Speaker 1: the sixth worst in the league. And he says he

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Speaker 1: wants to help fix those issues immediately. So you kind

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Speaker 1: of like the attitude, But you know, the number thing,

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Speaker 1: the zero, what's the deal with that these guys were

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Speaker 1: in zero and number one? You know, if I'm in

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Speaker 1: the locker room and I see this, I just like,

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Speaker 1: you're hoockie man, you know, like, wait your turn.

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Speaker 2: Nah, there's none of that in terms of uniform number.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's what I'll say, having been one of those

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Speaker 2: guys that wore single digit, I wore single digit digit

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Speaker 2: in college, I wore number seven.

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Speaker 1: Why is there any special reasons?

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Speaker 2: Well, like I wore twenty two forever, like coming up,

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Speaker 2: that was my dad's number. My birthday is on the

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Speaker 2: twenty second, so twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Clark's numbers twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But Caitlyn Clark maybe she wore twenty two because

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Speaker 2: the bud don't know, but it was never a think.

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Speaker 2: But then seven became the number because everyone thinks about

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Speaker 2: lucky seven. If you think about like the Good Book,

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Speaker 2: like you think about the Bible, seven is the perfect

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Speaker 2: number in the Bible. So for me, it had all

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Speaker 2: of those meanings. But the single digit thing, you have

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Speaker 2: to be a ball that to wear a single digit, like,

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Speaker 2: you have to be a good player because there's a

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Speaker 2: little extra that comes with doing that. And when you

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Speaker 2: think about those numbers, number one and number zero, it's

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Speaker 2: even to another degree, right right to wear number one, man,

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Speaker 2: you have to be really like that dude, that dude

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Speaker 2: that when you step on the field everyone recognizes you

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Speaker 2: as the one, so that's it. But number zero has

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Speaker 2: become that be for one. The league just started allowing

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Speaker 2: zero to come back into the fold last season, and

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Speaker 2: there's also some specialists to that because it's such a

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Speaker 2: unique number. To pick number zero, you know that you're

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Speaker 2: bringing all this attention to yourself and so you have

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Speaker 2: to have the personality in the game to live up

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Speaker 2: to all that comes with that.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Why would you even want to

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Speaker 1: zero one number one? Because it puts so much more

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Speaker 1: pressure on you. When I think of number one, I

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Speaker 1: think of the big old Oscar Robertson. He won fourteen

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Speaker 1: for the longest time. But when I think we went

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Speaker 1: to Milwaukee to play with Leuel sinder Kareem Abdul at

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Speaker 1: the time, he changed it to number one, and he

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Speaker 1: deserved to be number one. He was number one, he's

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Speaker 1: still number one.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, why would you want that? Because the

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Speaker 2: people that typically choose to have that number, they don't

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Speaker 2: worry about what everyone else thinks about them. They kind

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Speaker 2: of welcome the competition and everything that comes with that.

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Speaker 2: Because if you don't welcome it, then why would you

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Speaker 2: pick it. You have to be built the right way

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Speaker 2: to wear that number. So for me, I am I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with it. You just have to be built the

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Speaker 2: right way. You got to have to swag the confidence

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Speaker 2: in the game to be able to wear those numbers.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my eye on him, Arnold, I'm watching you.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching you in the Detroit Lion station. You see

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Speaker 1: what happened, all right, He's Bucky Brooks. I'm ady forever.

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Speaker 1: We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Ready and

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Speaker 1: now coming up next on Fox Sports Sunday Live from

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Speaker 1: the Tyrock dot Com Studios. Now, this could have been

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Speaker 1: a real slippery slope. That is next, But first, Dan Bayer,

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Speaker 1: Let's hit a sports.

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Speaker 5: Hey fellas a quick look back at yesterday's action in

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Speaker 5: the NBA playoffs saw the Celtics beat the Cavaliers one

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Speaker 5: oh six to ninety three. Jason Tatum thirty three points,

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Speaker 5: thirteen rebounds and six assists. Is Boston is up to one,

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Speaker 5: Mavericks took it to one lead on the thunder, winning

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Speaker 5: one oh five to one oh one.

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Speaker 2: PJ.

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Speaker 5: Washington led Dallas with twenty seven Luka Dancic had twenty

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Speaker 5: two points and fifteen rebounds, but he's hurting. Came into

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Speaker 5: the game with knee.

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Speaker 1: And ankle injuries.

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Speaker 2: This was his exchange with the reporter after yesterday's win.

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Speaker 2: As you said, you're out there battling, going through a

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Speaker 2: lot coming off the court, you were clearly laboring what

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Speaker 2: is what different parts are hurting everything?

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Speaker 6: In the last play I split to defenders. Obviously nobody

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Speaker 6: touched me as you know, her money again. But just

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Speaker 6: run a battle out there, man.

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Speaker 2: We got to win this. All the matters, the everything

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Speaker 2: hurts part.

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Speaker 5: I can relate Game four the NBA Playoffs Sunday has

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Speaker 5: the Nicks and Pacers playing in Indianapolis. That's at three

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Speaker 5: thirty Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: Just prior to that.

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Speaker 5: By the way, NBA Draft lottery Pistons and Wizards have

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Speaker 5: the best odds to get the first overall pick. The

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Speaker 5: nightcap in the playoffs is a Game four between the

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Speaker 5: Nuggets and Timberwolves in Minneapolis. Stanley Cup playoffs starts beat

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Speaker 5: the Avalanche four to one. Dallas is up to one

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Speaker 5: of the series. Hurricanes stayed alive by beating the Rangers

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Speaker 5: in Game four four to three, but New York leads

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Speaker 5: that series three to one. Shohy Otani had to leave

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers win against the Padres five nothing with back discomfort.

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Speaker 5: He's not likely to play in the series finale later

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Speaker 5: on today at Petco. Elsewhere in baseball, the A's were

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Speaker 5: eight to one winners against the Mariners, Rockies are rolling

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Speaker 5: three in a row, they best in Texas eight three,

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Speaker 5: and the Angels were nine to three victors against the Royals.

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Speaker 5: NASCAR racings on FS one this afternoon, Chargers signed veteran

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Speaker 5: pass rusher Bud Dupree to a two year deal. And

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Speaker 5: in golf, Xanders Shoffley as a one shot lead over

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Speaker 5: Rory McElroy at the Wells Fargo Championship.

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Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, Thanks Dan, all right now, pushing

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Speaker 1: the envelope with this could lead to trouble. That's right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. He's Bucky Brokes and Andy Furman, and

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Speaker 1: we are Fox Sports Sunday with Bonam Barrel Betting coming

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Speaker 1: up in about six minutes from now. And let's talk

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Speaker 1: about quarterback Jayden Daniels. He went four spots ahead of

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Speaker 1: his LSU teammate Maleak Neighbors in the draft, and he's

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Speaker 1: also saying that he's gonna finish ahead of him when

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Speaker 1: it comes to being named the NFL's offensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the year, that's pretty good, and he says, initially otherwise

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Speaker 1: would cost him ten thousand dollars because they made a

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Speaker 1: bet who would win the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Now that bet between the Jaden Daniels and Milick neighbors

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Speaker 1: for the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year now is off.

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Speaker 1: It's off. It's finished done because the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: gambling policy stated that gambling includes quote private wagers between teammates,

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Speaker 1: family and friends or others, but that was not included

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Speaker 1: in the revised twenty twenty three policy. So again, this

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Speaker 1: gambling situation is raising its ugly head everywhere you look,

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Speaker 1: everywhere you turn. And this could have been a bad

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Speaker 1: situation for those two rookies to be in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Again, I get it. I know, it's a

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Speaker 1: revenue stream. The NFL loves it. All these professional teams

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Speaker 1: love it, you know. And you got to look at

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Speaker 1: a guy like Pete ro sitting on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 1: If they only had that, maybe when he played, they

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Speaker 1: would have turned the other cheek and maybe he'd be

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: But the gambling thing right now is just it's above

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Speaker 1: and beyond that where I ever thought it would be,

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Speaker 1: and that not a players are talking about it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's healthy, Buck, I really don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it's healthy. The guys are talking about

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Speaker 2: gambling or that is a part of the landscape now, yes,

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: and yes, yeah, I mean, but here's the thing. The

1491
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: National Football League had to make a business decision. They

1492
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: could could have continued to go down the road of

1493
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: not including gambling, online betting, day betting, all that other stuff,

1494
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: or they could welcome it. There's so much money tied

1495
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: into that because we saw it with daily fantasy. Once

1496
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: they started getting into the fantasy football business, then daily

1497
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: fantasy became a bigger deal than naturally. That transition to

1498
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: daily betting and that other stuff is too lucrative for

1499
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: the National Football League to sit on the sidelines, and

1500
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: despite having their morality where they've talked about that for years,

1501
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: ultimately Green outweighed that part of it, and so they're

1502
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: trying to do it while also trying to protect the

1503
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: integrity of the game. It's hard to live in both

1504
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: of those worlds. But the National Football League wants to

1505
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: try because they want the money from the casinos and

1506
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: the online gambling entities while still trying to maintain the

1507
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: sanctity of the game. It is hard to do. So

1508
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: that's why they have to go so over the top

1509
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: when it comes to player discipline when there's even the

1510
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: slightest inkling that players are going to get involved in

1511
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: betting and waging of some kind. That said, they won't

1512
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: be able to police everything because some of the things

1513
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: that are uttered in the locker room in terms of

1514
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: like the private wages or whatever, the league won't be

1515
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: privy to. And so the reason why Malik Neighbors and

1516
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels had to come out in a kind of

1517
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: quickly diffuse the ten thousand dollars talk on that is

1518
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: because the league certainly doesn't want that out for public

1519
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: consuption because it goes against the policy. If they're going

1520
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: to do that, that's going to have to be a

1521
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: wink nod situation that the league can't find out about.

1522
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you something stupid, because most of

1523
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: the things that come out of my mouth are stupid.

1524
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: But what if these two guys are playing golf and

1525
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: they're betting on a golf game. Could you do that?

1526
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: Man?

1527
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: How far does this thing go?

1528
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Like technically they don't want

1529
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: you gambling on any of those things. But once again,

1530
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: I will say, and these certain things that take place

1531
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: in the locker room will continue to take place in

1532
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: the locker room, whether that is when you're on the

1533
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: plane and you're playing card games, whether you're in the

1534
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: hotel rooms on road trips playing card games or rolling

1535
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,919
Speaker 2: dice or doing whatever is competitive, those things will continue

1536
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: to exist. The one thing that you can't shut off,

1537
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: the same thing that makes players great, also can tend

1538
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: to be their Achilles Hill. Guys that are super competitive

1539
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: are going to be competitive in everything that they go

1540
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: they do. So part of the reason why you see

1541
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 2: guys go to Vegas and want to gamble and do

1542
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: those things is because the competitive part of it is

1543
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: who they are. Just like Michael Jordan, when Michael Jordan

1544
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: would have those trips to Atlantic City and then come

1545
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: back and play in Philly the next night. I mean,

1546
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: that's just a part of the DNA. They have to

1547
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: make sure they keep that under control. But some things

1548
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: you can't legislate out. They're going to compete. There's gonna

1549
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: be some wagers and stuff exchange, because when you get

1550
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: the talking and the competitiveness and all that, sometimes people

1551
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: want you to put your money where your mouth is.

1552
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: Right, all right, Bucky Brooks, here's the big question of

1553
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: the day. Though Jayden Daniels was the second pick by

1554
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 1: at Washington Command, there's my Elaitue Neighbors the six pick overall,

1555
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: but a New York Giants. Who will be the NFL

1556
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year. Well maybe it's Caleb Williams.

1557
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't know Jayde Daniels. And the reason why I'm

1558
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: going with Jaden Daniels is because Jaden Daniels has the

1559
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: opportunity to create more splash plays than anybody else. And

1560
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, you can have those spectacular passes in those things, right,

1561
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: He'll have plenty of those. We talked about that wide

1562
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: receiver cord being one that is in the top five

1563
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: in my estimation. But with Whyington, Jayde Daniels is going

1564
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to doubt so not only as

1565
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: a thrower but as a runner. And when you think

1566
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 2: about how that award goes to not only spectacular performances,

1567
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: but signature moments. He is going to have an opportunity

1568
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: to have more of those signature moments that resonate when

1569
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: it comes time to do the voting at the end

1570
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: of the year. Because of that, that's why I'm gonna

1571
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 2: go with Jade and Daniels, and Cliff Kingsbury has already

1572
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: done this before. He did it with Kyler Murray. Kyler

1573
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: Murray went to Office Brick of the Year his first

1574
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: season with the Arizona Cardinals. They can use a similar

1575
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: blueprint to get him going and the magic numbers for

1576
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: Kyler Williams for Kyler Murray was thirty five hundred pass yards,

1577
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: five hundred rush yards, and I think he had twenty

1578
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: four total touchdowns. It's easy to envision Jayde Daniels getting

1579
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: that based on his talent and based on the weapons

1580
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: that the Commanders have on the outside, Well.

1581
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: Said, I look, I would want to let people know

1582
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: that this is not anything new. Betting on the offensive

1583
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: Rookie the Year deal quarterback Baker Mayfield, who was with

1584
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns at the time. He bought former Giant

1585
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: It's running back Sequon Barkley a diamond and crusted necklace

1586
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: to pay off a similar bet after Barkley earned the

1587
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: honor back in twenty nineteen, and even Baker Mayfield said

1588
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: he flaunted the chain when he presented it to the winners.

1589
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: So Mayfield was the number one pick that year, Barkley

1590
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: was taken second by the Giants, and Mayfield had a payoff.

1591
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: So it happened, and I'm sure it's gonna happen again.

1592
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna happen behind the behind closed doors.

1593
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: But you know, hopefully it doesn't get out because I

1594
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it's good. I just I

1595
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I don't like the gambling aspect.

1596
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. There's too many questions. I mean,

1597
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: you watch a game and people are betting on it.

1598
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: For the official makes a bad call, people are the

1599
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: second guest, and a receiver drops a pass in the

1600
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: end zone. Was he on the take? I mean, I know,

1601
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: these guys make so much money, you'd really have to

1602
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: give him some tons of cash to drop a pass

1603
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: for money. But still, in all, there's always that question,

1604
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: and you don't want to have that cloud over anybody.

1605
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. It just makes it bad.

1606
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it certainly muddies the waters. You know,

1607
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: you wanted to be clear that everyone is a look

1608
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: above board, everyone is doing the right stuff. There's not

1609
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 2: anything that's influencing the game. That's why it's more so

1610
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: for appearances. Most guys aren't gonna tak the game like

1611
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: you're not gonna see shaving points, shaving in those things.

1612
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: But the league on the surface, because remember, so much

1613
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: money is tied into it, the gambling entities, they want

1614
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: to make sure that. Look, if the books are putting

1615
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: up big money, they want to make sure that the

1616
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: games are played fair and square. They also don't want

1617
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: to be snookered out of a bunch of different money

1618
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: because people aren't doing the right stuff. There you go.

1619
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy firmwe a Fox Sports Sunday

1620
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 1: and Fox Sports. Ready. Now, gambling may be off limits

1621
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but not here. Why boom barrel betting

1622
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: is freaking next? All right? Budo Beller birding right around

1623
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: the bed about ten minutes before the top of the hour.

1624
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firman, we are Fox Sports

1625
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: Sunday and Fox Butt's ready and we're life from the

1626
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: tierraq dot com studio. So we got a game to play.

1627
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: Let's play it and guess who's here to get us going? Hey, Shay, say,

1628
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: how you doing? Shay?

1629
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 4: She what's up? Guys, it's going to be back. I'm

1630
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: happy to be here, all right. Let's go over last

1631
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 4: week's scores.

1632
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: Why don't we?

1633
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 4: So, Andy, I said it last time, I'll say it again.

1634
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 4: I'm your good luck charm I really am.

1635
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think I want to out of the

1636
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: list three.

1637
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 4: I think you know where I'm going. Andy, you won

1638
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: three and Bucky won two last time. So Andy with

1639
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 4: a very rare win. Congratulations Andy. So that makes the

1640
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 4: overall score Buckie with thirty eight and Andy with twenty seven.

1641
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 4: You guys ready for the new round.

1642
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you, Bucky, I'm getting you all right.

1643
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: So like Nanda, Shay's back, I know I'm more confident now.

1644
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: I kind of know what the topics are gonna be.

1645
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know me.

1646
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 4: I think I I've changed it up a little bit.

1647
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 4: It's a little different today, but we'll say it was

1648
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 4: better now. In the National Lacrosse League, the Buffalo Bandits

1649
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: are taking on the Albany FireWolves Friday May seventeenth at

1650
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: four pm Pacific Standard time. The Bandits are minus one

1651
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 4: thirty while the fire Wolves are even. Both teams are

1652
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: currently eleven and seven.

1653
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: Well, I'll go first because I was a champ. But

1654
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: where are they playing? A Buffalo or an Albany?

1655
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 4: You know they're gonna be in Albany.

1656
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: I got Albany, that got the home team. I got Albany.

1657
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: Okay, well my first team was a Buffalo bill so

1658
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: let's go with a Buffalo band It's some good with that.

1659
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 4: Both great names, by the way, Albany FireWolves and Buffalo Bandits.

1660
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 4: All right, let's go on to the next one. Onto

1661
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 4: Gaelic football. Do you guys know what that is?

1662
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 6: No?

1663
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 2: In Ireland?

1664
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's up in Ireland. It's a mix of basically

1665
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 4: soccer and rugby. So in the Leinster Senior Championship, which

1666
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 4: is basically in Dublin, it's taking on Dublin is taking

1667
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 4: on Luth today in a little bit less than an hour,

1668
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 4: Dublin is minus one ten while Louth is minus one

1669
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 4: twenty five.

1670
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: Mmmm, let's go with Louth.

1671
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: Good because I want the Dublin. I want because the

1672
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: games in Dublin.

1673
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: You're going with the home team.

1674
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, hell ye's a safe bet.

1675
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: It's a safe bet.

1676
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: Yes.

1677
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 4: Onto the T twenty Kosh Tepa National Cup, which is

1678
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 4: in Afghanistani Cricket League. Banda Emir Dragons are taking on

1679
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 4: Miss Nike Knights today at two thirty five pm Pacific

1680
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: Standard time. The Dragons are minus one forty five while

1681
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 4: the Knights are plus one ten.

1682
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: Go with the Dragons at this time.

1683
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: I like the Dragons, Okay, it makes it easier. I'll

1684
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: take the Knights.

1685
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 4: Crickets supposedly the biggest sport in Afghanistan. If you guys

1686
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 4: didn't know that.

1687
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get some love to the uf do

1688
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: you know that.

1689
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: I hooked it up. I looked it up. I was like, what,

1690
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: there's a league.

1691
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it because I know you're not that smart.

1692
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not.

1693
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm not. I was a journalism major.

1694
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 6: You know.

1695
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 4: We're giving some love to the UFL. The San Antonio

1696
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: Brahmas are taking on the Houston Roughnecks at twelve pm today.

1697
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,839
Speaker 4: The Bramas are minus one sixty five. All the Roughnecks

1698
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: are plus one forty. What you guys got.

1699
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: This is tough. So when it gets tough, I go

1700
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: down to the uniforms and so I'm gonna go with

1701
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: the Houston. I'm gonna go with Houston in this one

1702
01:19:59,680 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: they have.

1703
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: Then I got to go say it too. I'm gonna roll.

1704
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel so confident today. You know you

1705
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: are to stay home, Bucky, really really shoot, I got

1706
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: seen it.

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 4: Last, but not at least we got the European Handball

1708
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Speaker 4: League HC. A dance is taking on Nick Pogean Falster

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Speaker 4: Handball Club. A dance is minus one thousand, while Nick

1710
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 4: po Bing is plus eight hundred.

1711
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Speaker 1: A dance with the accent. They go a dance.

1712
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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't remember who the other team, Nicko, Nick

1713
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: Bobing other team. I got it. This was fun.

1714
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: Good luck, guys, he's got it. Go all right? All right,

1715
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Speaker 1: there was no love here, that's for sure. That's coming

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Speaker 1: right up. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 1: The way tied buying should be all right, Bucky Brooks,

1723
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: are you already were down the home stretch right now?

1724
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: It's rolling rolling along on Mother's Day? Happy Mother's Day

1725
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: to one and all. And I've been called the mother before?

1726
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: You know?

1727
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: Have you? Have you, Bucky?

1728
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: I've not been called him mother.

1729
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have not. You know, I know one

1730
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: guy who probably calls somebody a mother. I we'll talk

1731
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: about the Tom Brady Roast. Did you watch the Tom

1732
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: Brady Roast?

1733
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Watch parts of it? I can't say that I watched

1734
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: all of it. I'm not really a roast person because

1735
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't really understand the concept of sitting there while

1736
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: all your buddies like joke you and beat the living

1737
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: day like yeah that doesn't really.

1738
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and say things that really and truly should because

1739
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: they say, if it's in Vegas, it stays in Vegas.

1740
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean certain things that it's happened to you in

1741
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: your life you don't want the public to know, especially

1742
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: on national TV. I don't get it. I really don't

1743
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: get the concept of it. Now as I mentioned early

1744
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: on years ago, they had like a Dean Martin Rose

1745
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: TV show and it was sort of funny. I mean,

1746
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: they had funny guys, comedians who was upbeat. It was

1747
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: kind of clean and I'm not a prude, as I mentioned,

1748
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: but I watched it, and the roaster is obviously Randy

1749
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: Moss was a roaster. And I watched this thing because

1750
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: the hype was ridiculous on Netflix, so I watched it.

1751
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: I had no idea it was three hours. If I

1752
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: would have known it was three hours, I wouldn't have

1753
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: watched it. But once I turned it on, I said,

1754
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: all right, I'll watch it. So I turned it on

1755
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: like a ten at night. It was over like a

1756
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: almost warm in the morning. Really, Randy Moss was bitter.

1757
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he comes on there and he says, how

1758
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: come I didn't get a ring? I mean really, and

1759
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's sitting there like a fool, like in the

1760
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: Dunce chair over there, and he just didn't know what

1761
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: to say. I mean, he didn't get a ring, and

1762
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: that was the end. He was upset. Rob Gronkowski, they

1763
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: made him look like a fool. They made it look

1764
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: like a dope. Really, it's amazing what they did. And

1765
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: then Julian Edelman comes on there and he mentions Robert

1766
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: Cress's funeral something to extent like I'm not quoting directly,

1767
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: like you know, maybe we won't go to your furnity

1768
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: funeral or something. I mean, come on, And then I

1769
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: think that tipped off Tom Brady, and I saw that

1770
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 1: he went over to Julian and kind of whispered in

1771
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: his ear, like, you know, back off a little bit.

1772
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look to me, I hate to say this.

1773
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: For people going to think I'm a prude, I'm not.

1774
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: There was too much of color. It had to be,

1775
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 1: as I said, embarrassing, not only for Tom Brady and

1776
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: his parents, what about his kids? I mean and Kevin Hart.

1777
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 1: He had like a dagger in his mouth. Who is

1778
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: killing people? Really? Look, I don't find it funny when

1779
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: every other word is the F bomb. I mean, you know,

1780
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: I've seen these specials on HBO as well as well

1781
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: as this Netflix thing, and when these comedians come on

1782
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: and they dropped the F bomb and the audience is laughing,

1783
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: I laugh at then, not at what the comedian's saying.

1784
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't find it funny, you know, I believe me,

1785
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't swear. I have before and

1786
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I probably still will. Hopefully I won't do it behind

1787
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: this microphone. But still, do you find that funny?

1788
01:23:59,200 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: Buck? Do you really?

1789
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: Do you hear those dropping the F bomb? Is that

1790
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: a funny thing? I don't know why a comment I'm

1791
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: doing this skit?

1792
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not one that really curses,

1793
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: so I mean it's fine though, like people use curse

1794
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: words or whatever like, but it's just not like, like

1795
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: my thing. And part of that is because I've worked

1796
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: with so many kids as like a high school coach.

1797
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: You can't just be out there dropping F bombs all

1798
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: the time. It's probably unbecoming of being the leader of

1799
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: the program that's tied to a school, but like to

1800
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: each his own. To me, the difference is not necessarily

1801
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: the F bombs and the language or whatever, is just

1802
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: really understanding the concept of just picking at someone relentlessly

1803
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: and finding joy in that. For me, that's not that's

1804
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: not the thing. It's it's okay to like have occasional

1805
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 2: jabs or whatever, but man, three hours of just people

1806
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: just taking shots, yeah, that's not that's not mine.

1807
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. You know some of the F bombs.

1808
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a radio a talk show host

1809
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: on w f A N Radio when New York was

1810
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: preaching to his audience that when they enter douce the

1811
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers against the Knicks and the playoffs games, they

1812
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: should say F the Pacers. I mean, what, how could

1813
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: a program direct to permit that? Forget about the program director,

1814
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: because he's probably an idiot too for even permitting this

1815
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: to go on the air. But more than that, if

1816
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 1: the host is a parent and as kids are listening,

1817
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: would you want your kids to say that? I just

1818
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: don't get it. I mean, but I guess people have

1819
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: two faces, the face of a normal person, you know,

1820
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: in your everyday life, and the face when you get

1821
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: behind the microphone and you want to stir things up.

1822
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: I get it. You know you're a different character behind

1823
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: the microphone. I guess you could say everybody is. I

1824
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: am to some extent too, but not like that, you know.

1825
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: But look, the real story of the roast was not

1826
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: so much the roast 's. It wasn't so much Tom Brady.

1827
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: It was the fact that maybe the Robert Kraft Bill

1828
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Belichick situation all right, And according to two former players

1829
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: who attended the roast, Belichick and the owner of the Patriots,

1830
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft. Julie Lleman and Drew Bloodshoe discussed the three

1831
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: hour roaster in the latest episode on Edelman's Games with

1832
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: Names podcast, and they describe what happened in the green room. Okay,

1833
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: and pre show. This is what Edelmund said. We're in

1834
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: the green room and were you there, Edelman asked, and

1835
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: of course Bledsoe says, yeah, Bill's coming up. He's having fun.

1836
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: He's talking war stories, talking skits, talking fun stuff. We

1837
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: know Bill's what he's all about. Then all of a

1838
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: sudden they were in the green room and then Belichick

1839
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: comes in there, Grondkowski's there, Randy Morris, and then Kraft arrived.

1840
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: When Kraft walked in, the tension in the room. They said,

1841
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: you couldn't cut it with an F and glass. This

1842
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: is what Julian Edelman said, and then Edelmand said he

1843
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: tried to give Belichick a heads up when he saw

1844
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: Kraft walk into the green room, but Belichick didn't pick

1845
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: up on the queue. Kraft came in and was like, Oh,

1846
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some fireworks. This is what Edmund said

1847
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I just walked away. I didn't want

1848
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: to get in there. Bleddshoe added that Belichick and Craft

1849
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: did at one point quote break it down and got

1850
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: together for I don't know, maybe ten minutes at least,

1851
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: but the former Patriots quart a back. I agree with

1852
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: Edelman's assessment about the tension of the room, saying it

1853
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: was very, very real. It was very real. Okay, I

1854
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: get it. You know, I'm sure that Belichick is not

1855
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: basically friendly and will not invite Robert Kraft to Thanksgiving dinner.

1856
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I get it. And what he did to Belichick probably

1857
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: was wrong, you know what I mean. The guy's the

1858
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: greatest coach ever to coach in the National Football League,

1859
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: and from what I'm reading and I'm hearing right now,

1860
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: it looks like that Craft cut Belichick loose. That's basically

1861
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: what happened. That's why he's no longer coaching.

1862
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Agreed, Well, yeah, I mean, I think everyone understands that

1863
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 2: they can say mutual party in the ways of anything.

1864
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: It was ownership telling the head coach he can no

1865
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: longer be there. Any other situation when you had someone

1866
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: who is won as much as Bill Belichick is won,

1867
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: he will be given the opportunity to coach as long

1868
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: as he wanted to until he retired. Think about Don

1869
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: Shulder with the Miami Dolphins, and it eventually got him.

1870
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: But think about Don Shueld, the winningest coach in the

1871
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: National Football League. He didn't make the playoffs the last

1872
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: handful of years before. You was maybe pushed out of

1873
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson. But at some point you want to give

1874
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: the greats an opportunity to go out on their own.

1875
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: And Robert Craft felt like Bill Belichick no longer had

1876
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 2: the pulse of the team and that he was unable

1877
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: to turn it around. We'll see if Bill Belichick gets

1878
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: another opportunity to coach a team and to build it

1879
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: from scratch, I'll see this. Bill Belichick and the new

1880
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: Van Patriots spoiled us and changed our expectations of dominant teams.

1881
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: We now expect dominant teams to go to the Super

1882
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Bowl each and every year. The Patriots went to nine

1883
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, won six of them on his watch. And

1884
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: you just think about the teams that were I would

1885
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: say on paper not very good, but made it to

1886
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game a lot alone a Super Bowl.

1887
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 2: He's the greatest coach that we've seen, and I felt

1888
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: like he was probably wrongly pushed out. But we'll see.

1889
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: Because it's a new erage, Jerem Mao takes over. Elliot

1890
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: Wolf was just named head of Like Football Operations. He'll

1891
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: take over and be the VP slash general manager of

1892
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: all things Patriots. We'll have an opportunity see how well

1893
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 2: the Patriots do now that you know the evil Empire

1894
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: is no.

1895
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: Longer, right, I hear what you say. Look, I will

1896
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: say this that Belichick and Craft they drank a shot

1897
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: together on stage, and that was with some coaxing from

1898
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, who was the host of the show, host

1899
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: of the roast. You know again, it was awkward. But

1900
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I will say this, I give Belichick a lot of

1901
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: credit for showing up because I think he would have

1902
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: got a lot more heat if he didn't show up.

1903
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: He would have been criticized if he was a no show,

1904
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: saying that he was afraid to face Craft one on one.

1905
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: He was there, he sucked it up. It's over, it's

1906
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: done with. But I think the whole thing was very

1907
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: tense and awkward. I mean, the whole roast was awkward.

1908
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, Tom Brady was never the big

1909
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: talker anyway when he was a player. Could be very

1910
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: interesting to see what he does beyond the microphone for

1911
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: fights Fox, when he does the football games. But you know,

1912
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: to have a rose for Tom Brady and have those

1913
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 1: particulars as roasts. I thought the whole thing was crazy.

1914
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I really do. But again maybe I was crazy for

1915
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Speaker 1: even watching it. But I just don't understand why they

1916
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: did a rose. But number two, this Craft Belichick thing,

1917
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Speaker 1: it's just it won't go away, and and I think

1918
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: the public knew that, and why they'd even I guess

1919
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: you have to have Robert Kraft there because you know

1920
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: he's the owner of the architect of the team. But

1921
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: it just it just didn't feel good. It was like

1922
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: a kind of a dirty feeling watching it, That's all

1923
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I believe me every other word was

1924
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 1: fairly dirty as well. I don't know, It's just to

1925
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: be ten other people I could think of I want

1926
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: to see being roasted. I mean, have you ever gone

1927
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: to a roast? Have you ever seen one of these deals?

1928
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 6: No?

1929
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: A person, I've never seen one, ever been to one.

1930
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Speaker 1: Anybody answered to participate in one?

1931
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: No, no, no, never.

1932
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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the whole concept of a

1933
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: roast is somewhat foolish, don't you think that to have

1934
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: a guy sit there, I just beat people, just beat

1935
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: the living daylights out of him. And you know what,

1936
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: they got real personal. They were talking about Gizelle, the

1937
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: divorce he had with his wife, what's going on his

1938
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: sexual life. I mean, you know enough. I mean, I

1939
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people even want to hear

1940
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: about that stuff, do you.

1941
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1942
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: I mean I listened, and I'm shaking my head. I said, wow,

1943
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I thought bare for Tom Brady, but again more I

1944
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: went more so for his parents who were there, and

1945
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: his kids. His kids are hearing this stuff. It's just

1946
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: there's no there's no boundaries anymore. You know, anything goes right,

1947
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: anything goes in life. That's the way it is right now.

1948
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, No, that's sweet. It is. Look,

1949
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: you got a lot of got a lot of traction.

1950
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who loved it, a

1951
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: lot of people who enjoyed like watching that, and so

1952
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 2: to each his own like it obviously was popularly. Netflix

1953
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: far enough of it to pay significant money to have

1954
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Tom Brady be the subject of the Rose, and you know,

1955
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 2: by all the counts it was a success. So I'm

1956
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 2: sure we will see more of our top prominent athletes

1957
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: kind of have rose so people can laugh and be

1958
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 2: entertained by. Like some of the flaws, it may humanize

1959
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: some of them. So I'm sure we'll see more.

1960
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Speaker 1: I would say this, and if I'm an athlete and

1961
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I watched that and someone asked me, hey, well you

1962
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: want to be roasted, I'd say no. I'd say no.

1963
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: I just I don't know why you'd want to. You know,

1964
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Rose and maybe Peyton Manning that

1965
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: may be funny, you know, and he was there, you know,

1966
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: he was there at that Rose. But other than that,

1967
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to move on because you

1968
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: mentioned something about the new England Patriots. Let's talk about

1969
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: the future. Now, let's talk about girod Mayo, the new coach.

1970
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: First of all, how do you think he's going to do?

1971
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: Number one? And part B of that question right now,

1972
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: they asked him about his first impressions of you, a

1973
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: guy from North Carolina, Drake may at the quarterback situation,

1974
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: and they say he's got a lot of work to do,

1975
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: And I think it's a standard quote that he probably

1976
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: would have said that he's got a lot of work

1977
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: to do. But you're your assessment of Drake May as quarterback,

1978
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: how he's going to make it in the National Football League.

1979
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, look, a lot of it would depend on

1980
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: what he has around him. He's super talented. The talent

1981
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 2: is comparable to the talent that we've seen from Josh

1982
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Allen up in Buffalo. The issue that you have with

1983
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: Drake May is the inconsistencies and the inexperience. The inconsistencies

1984
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: in terms of how he plays from the pocket, against pressure,

1985
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 2: against elite competition and those things. But a lot of

1986
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: that might be due to the inexperience. Drake May has

1987
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: only played in two of the last four years, and

1988
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 2: part of that is due to COVID wiped away his

1989
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: senior season in high school. His freshman year he was

1990
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 2: sitting behind Sam Howell, and then he played the last

1991
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 2: two years. The first year he played, he had pros

1992
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: on the perimeter. They looked great. Last year he didn't

1993
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 2: have the same supporting cast and so his play trailed off.

1994
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 2: If New England surround him with high level talent on

1995
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 2: the perimeter, if they take a slow developmental process with him,

1996
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 2: he could be everything that people think that he could

1997
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: be in terms of reaching his ceiling. If he's thrown

1998
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: out there before he's ready and he doesn't have the parts,

1999
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 2: and look, it could look ugly because he will be

2000
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 2: prone to turn the ball over in those things. So

2001
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: a lot of it depends on the Patriots approach to

2002
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: him and how they want to put him on the

2003
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 2: field and when they want to put him on the field.

2004
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: All right, Bucket Brooks, Now you're talking about the parts.

2005
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: Let's get specific right now. May is the first pick.

2006
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: He's a third pick in the draft and the quarterback

2007
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. And they come right back

2008
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: in the second round picking number thirty seven. Jalen Polk,

2009
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Washington. Tell me a little bit

2010
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: of Pulk. Is he going to be a good fixture

2011
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 1: for the Patriots to help them maybe get out of

2012
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,839
Speaker 1: what they've been down in the basement, down the dumps?

2013
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you hope, So I mean you take

2014
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: him in a second round player. He's really good pass catcher,

2015
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 2: really physical, does a great job with the ball in

2016
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: his hands. Played at udub and you know, you kind

2017
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 2: of get lost, you know, get lost in the shadow

2018
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: of Roma doonsay. But when you look up, look at

2019
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 2: the numbers and watch how Michael Pennix was not afraid

2020
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: to go to him in any situation. He certainly has

2021
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: the ability to be maybe a number two receiver on

2022
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: a good team. And the Pages have won in the

2023
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 2: past with a bunch of two's being able to get

2024
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 2: guys that are necessarily A level talents, but b B

2025
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: plus level talents that understand exactly what they're doing and

2026
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: how to do it. This can work for Drake May,

2027
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 2: but it's really gonna be essential for everyone to be

2028
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: on the same page. And how can the team get

2029
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: everybody on the same page. Have all the young guys

2030
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 2: play Scout team together so they get used to developing

2031
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:41,440
Speaker 2: a chemistry with one another. Give the young guys experience.

2032
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: And so as much as I was advocating for Drake

2033
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: May not to go on the field right away, maybe

2034
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 2: there's a way to get him kind of involved in

2035
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: the game while slowly introducing him to the program. So

2036
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 2: as that packages is that, hey man, we're going to

2037
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: always put you in the third series or those things,

2038
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: but they have to kind of come together Jalen Polk

2039
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: is a huge part of that, but it also has

2040
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 2: to be the other wide receivers working diligently to get

2041
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: on the same page with a franchise quarterback.

2042
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Speaker 1: Well, they knew exactly what they needed the New England

2043
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 1: pageostigal for the quarterback. At the first pick they got

2044
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: a receiver, and the second pick. Third pick they went

2045
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: for an offensive tackle to protect the quarterback. And then

2046
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,879
Speaker 1: round four they get into the wide receiver from UCF

2047
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Central Florida, Javon Baker. What about Javon Baker? You know

2048
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: anything about this kid?

2049
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,919
Speaker 2: Jamon Baker from UCF is talented man. He's a talented playmaker.

2050
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Started at Alabama, made his way to UCF, and in

2051
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 2: the last two years of UCF he was absolutely spectacular.

2052
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: Great route runner, big time playmaking skills, terrify with the

2053
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: ball in his hands. Underrated by all accounts. He is

2054
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 2: upset that he wasn't drafted earlier. Look, he's a dog

2055
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 2: like he Jelen Poles. They'll certainly changed the attitude of

2056
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room, but then it's about how do

2057
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: they perform. Do any of those guys have the requisite

2058
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: traits and ability to be considered for a bigger role.

2059
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 2: That will be something that's TVD. It'll be determined, but

2060
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: you're hoping that one of those guys can emerge as

2061
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: a like a fringe number one receiver that can ink

2062
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 2: in the passing game.

2063
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: Okay, and the Patriots this serious right now. Was they're

2064
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: afraid that if mate doesn't make it or he can't

2065
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: get it done. They go back now around six pick

2066
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: another quarterback, and this guy Joe Milton at Tennessee. They

2067
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: were hyping him two years ago for potential Heisman trophy, remember,

2068
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt. But they got Milton right

2069
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: now quarterback on the sixth pick, and come back on

2070
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: seventh they got Jahim Bell, a tight end out of

2071
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: Florida State. Tell me about Milton right now, what's the

2072
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: status with him? And of course Bell to tight end.

2073
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Speaker 2: Well. With Milton, you're talking about like just a fantastic,

2074
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: just prospect. And what I mean by a prospect is

2075
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 2: like high weight, speed, arm strength. I mean, dude can

2076
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: throw it out of the stadium literally. He has limitless range,

2077
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: big body guy who started at Michigan before he made

2078
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: his way to Tennessee. He flashes. He just has never

2079
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: put it together. He has all the two and trades

2080
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 2: that you look for, but he's never put it together

2081
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: in terms of being a quarterback. The big thing that

2082
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 2: you have with the Patriots is how do you develop

2083
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 2: two young quarterbacks at the same time you have your

2084
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback in Drake May. Do you have someone who

2085
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: is regarded as a developmental prospect? How much time are

2086
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 2: you going to vote to the developmental prospect compared to

2087
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: the Francis guys. You can put them both together, but

2088
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 2: the pecking order is definitely different. I understand why he

2089
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: was selected Elliott Wolf, son of Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf

2090
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 2: believed in taking quarterbacks and taking quarterbacks look every other

2091
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: year in the draft because it's the biggest trade chip

2092
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,839
Speaker 2: that you could have on your roster and intriguing developmental prospects.

2093
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: So I understood why they took them. Took them. Now,

2094
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: what is the plan for them to get both of

2095
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 2: the young guys ready to play? And when do you

2096
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to showcase Joe Milton to be the

2097
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 2: starting quarterback of the future somewhere else. There's a lot

2098
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 2: of things in play. How do you manage how do

2099
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 2: you manage the reps? How do you manag and it's

2100
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: the practice situation to make sure that both players get

2101
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: what they need.

2102
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Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, buck, you and the man. Any time

2103
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: you want something to answer to football, you're the guy.

2104
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. You get him on Twitter at Bucket

2105
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: Brooks at Andy Furman FSR eight seven seven ninety nine

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Speaker 1: one Fox. That's our number, and that translates to eight

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Speaker 1: seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. We

2108
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: got Look the blame game. We got that at the

2109
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Speaker 1: end of this hour, so that don't go anywhere. But

2110
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Speaker 1: they're all athletes. They're all athletes. Okay, but who's better

2111
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Speaker 1: that's coming up next. The comparison is meaningless. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: you all about it in just about a minute. Hey,

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Speaker 1: to also follow, rate and review the podcast again. Just

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Speaker 1: search Fox Sports ready wherever you get your podcasts, and

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Speaker 1: you'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday poster right after

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Speaker 1: we get off the air. Now you talk about comparisons, okay,

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Speaker 1: comparing A and B, B and C, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a waste of time. I think

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Speaker 1: it's foolish. I think it's crazy. Is a chemistry professor

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Speaker 1: better than a history professor? What are you comparing? They're

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Speaker 1: two different people. Stay in your lane. They're two different

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Speaker 1: different things. Right? Is a musician better than a doctor?

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Speaker 1: Each each person has special talents. A doctor is a

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Speaker 1: doctor better than a dentist? I don't think so. But

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Speaker 1: Austin Rivers, a former NBA guy, has the utmost confidence

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Speaker 1: in NBA players athleticism. He believes thirty NBA players could

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Speaker 1: play in the NFL, but thirty NFL players could not

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Speaker 1: be in the NBA. First of all, I think you

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Speaker 1: got too much free time on your hand, Austin, who cares? Bucky?

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Speaker 1: I mean, could you play in the NBA? I think

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Speaker 1: you probably could. I think you could. We do you know?

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Because there was so much outrage

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Speaker 2: about Austin Rivers comments about NBA players making it to

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Speaker 2: the NFL and vice versa. Here's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: NBA athletes are special athletes. And you've heard me talk

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Speaker 2: for two plus hours about high wight speed. But when

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Speaker 2: you look at NBA players, their high waight speed would

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Speaker 2: give them advantages that would allow them to play in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League. And the examples that I've used,

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Speaker 2: we've seen average college basketball players come into the NFL

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Speaker 2: and have success. Antonio Gates will be a Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame player. He was a solid player in college, didn't

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Speaker 2: play any football, goes to the NFL and becomes a

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Speaker 2: Gold Jackie guy. Tony Gonzalez was a role player for

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Speaker 2: the cal Bears playing basketball, goes to the NFL, has success. Now,

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Speaker 2: he played both in college, so he's not really a

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Speaker 2: true comparison. Jimmy Graham, who was a sixth man at

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Speaker 2: the University of Miami, plays one year college football, goes

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Speaker 2: to the NFL and have success. So if those guys

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Speaker 2: aren't even the best basketball players that are available, if

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Speaker 2: they can come into the National Football League and have success,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't guys like Anthony Edwards be able to have success.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't guys like Russell Westbrook come into the league

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Speaker 2: and have success. We're talking about a better caliber athlete,

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Speaker 2: better caliber player in basketball coming to the NFL. So

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Speaker 2: to me, it makes sense in that regard. Then when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the NFL guys going to the NBA, No,

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Speaker 2: because typically those guys aren't skilled enough and they're not

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Speaker 2: tall enough to be able to play in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Julius Peppers Hall of Fame player, one of the best

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Speaker 2: football players that we've ever seen. He was a sixth

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Speaker 2: man on a Final four team at my alma mater.

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Speaker 2: Julius Peppers, Mike could get some rebounds and stuff, but

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Speaker 2: they're not thirty guys like Julius Peppers that could go

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Speaker 2: into the NBA and play and dominate and play for

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Speaker 2: a long time. So to me, I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: the conversation is. They're far more NBA players who could

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Speaker 2: play in the National Football League than NFL players could

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Speaker 2: go play in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: This is a great conversation. I want to pick up

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Speaker 1: on it, but first I'm going to sell you this.

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Speaker 1: This is a weak criticism. The talk about that as

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Speaker 1: coming up next and we'll continue with this is coming

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Speaker 1: up from the tireight Dot Com Studios. But first off,

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Speaker 1: Guy the Iman Isaac long Crown.

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Speaker 7: With all your sports Good morning, Andy and Bucky, and

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Speaker 7: we start with Game three of the NBA's Eastern Conference Semifinals.

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Speaker 7: On Saturday night saw the Boston Celtics win in Cleveland

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Speaker 7: one oh six to ninety three for a two games

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Speaker 7: to one lead. Jason Tatum scored thirty three. Jalen Brown

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Speaker 7: added twenty eight. In the Stanley Cup playoffs on Saturday night,

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Speaker 7: the Dallas Stars one of Colorado four to one in

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Speaker 7: Game three of the Western Conference semi Finals.

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Speaker 1: Stars lead the series two games to one.

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Speaker 7: Baseball on Saturday evening, the Los Angeles Dodgers with a

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Speaker 7: five nothing victory at San Diego. James Paxton's six scorelessennings

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Speaker 7: to improve his record to five. N O ti Oscar

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Speaker 7: Hernandez hit a grand slam for the Dodgers, who have

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Speaker 7: won eight of nine. Speaking of grand slams, San Francisco's

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Speaker 7: Matt Chapman hit a first inning grand slam and their

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Speaker 7: five to one win over the Cincinnati Reds. The Milwaukee

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Speaker 7: Brewers over the Saint Louis Cardinals five to three. Rees

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Speaker 7: High Kins the game winning three run home run in

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Speaker 7: the bottom of the seventh inning. The Cardinals, now on

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Speaker 7: a seven game losing streak, and the Colorado Rockies topped

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Speaker 7: the Texas Rangers eight to three thanks to a six

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Speaker 7: run outburst in the bottom of the seventh inning in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Fellas all yours all right, I man, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I want to continue this with Bucky Brooks. It's unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: like what Austin Rivers has done. First of all, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got to have too much free time

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Speaker 1: on your hands to talk about comparisons and players in

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Speaker 1: one league or the other. But Lebron James obviously one

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Speaker 1: of the best ever to play in the NBA. He

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Speaker 1: said that Jerry Jones over him a contract. I could

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Speaker 1: see him being a tight end Jimmy Butler for the

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Speaker 1: Miami Heat. He said he could make it in the

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Speaker 1: NFL because he says, quote, I'm fast, I have great hands,

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Speaker 1: I could really catch. And I remember back in the

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Speaker 1: day John Havlichek, who played for the Boston Celtics. They

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Speaker 1: say he was the last man cut by the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: So you talk about athleticism, yes, it can't happen. There

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Speaker 1: you go, and you were right. Buck you're right about

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Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth. It's stupid. It's a

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Speaker 1: stupid comparison. I mean that would be like saying, can

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Speaker 1: a soccer player played baseball? No, he doesn't use his hands.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would you even think about comparing one

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Speaker 1: league against the other? I don't get it. Why are

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Speaker 1: you even going there?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I like it, but I think people

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Speaker 2: have to understand this because everyone and look, I am

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Speaker 2: the biggest football junkie known to man. I love football.

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Speaker 2: I've loved it since I was seven years old. I

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Speaker 2: grew up just adoring the game and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I also had an opportunity to play in Green

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Speaker 2: Bay and to also play for the Raiders. And anyone

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Speaker 2: who knows al Davis. Al Davis was one of the

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Speaker 2: guys who was at the forefront of taking guys from

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Speaker 2: outside sports and putting them in. The Dallas Cowboys did

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Speaker 2: it for years. The Dallas Cowboys took basketball players and

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Speaker 2: routinely had them on the team. And so, learning from

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Speaker 2: Green Bay and Oak because Ron Wolf is a disciple

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Speaker 2: of al Davis and too right, they would always explore

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Speaker 2: guys that played other sports and bring them in and

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Speaker 2: so here's what I will say about basketball players because

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Speaker 2: I've always to tie end analogy. I gave you Gates

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Speaker 2: and Gonzales and Jimmy Graham or whatever. But here's where

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Speaker 2: the skills really translate. So in basketball, guys are playing

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Speaker 2: Manda man defense. So let's just think about all the

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Speaker 2: guards that are in the NBA. Most of the guards

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Speaker 2: are anywhere from six ' one to six ' five,

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Speaker 2: So imagine what they do all day is shadow and

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Speaker 2: stay in front of all of these basketball players to

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Speaker 2: prevent them from getting to the hoop. Those same skills

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Speaker 2: you can utilize to take and put a basketball player

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Speaker 2: at cornerback in the National Football League, ask them to

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Speaker 2: play bump and run coverage. Tell them, hey, it's no

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Speaker 2: different than playing Mando man and basketball stand in front.

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Speaker 2: But now you get an opportunity to use your hands

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Speaker 2: that you can't use in basketball because you can't handcheck. Well,

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Speaker 2: imagine me having an opportunity over time to teach them

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Speaker 2: how to incorporate the hands with the foot movement. They

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Speaker 2: already have advantages. So when people make these points that

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Speaker 2: NBA players couldn't do it, they absolutely could. And when

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Speaker 2: you go back and dig into the history, Alan iverson

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Speaker 2: high end high school football player. I think he might

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Speaker 2: have been a State Player of the Year in Virginia

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Speaker 2: as a wide receiver quarterback dB at Bethel High School.

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Speaker 2: So there's this list of basketball players who've had success

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Speaker 2: in football in high school. They absolutely could make it

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. That's why it's such a silly argument

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Speaker 2: for NFL players to get to get outraged, because we've

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Speaker 2: seen it happen and we know it could happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Anthony Edwards. I think I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: and I think you could play in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: tell you what, I think Zion Williamson could be a

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Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Because I's now the one thing that comes out

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01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: the natural argument that everyone has, Well, can they take

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Speaker 2: a hit? What's gonna happen when they get hit? What's

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01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: gonna happen when people split them apart? Here's what I'll say,

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Speaker 2: everyone that plays pro football doesn't love getting hit. All

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Speaker 2: those wide receivers that are running around, they don't enjoy

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01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: the physical contact. They don't do that. Some of this

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01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: stuff can be taught in terms of having an acceptable

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01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 2: level of toughness when it comes to playing the game.

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Speaker 2: And imagine because everyone thinks like, oh, they got to

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01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 2: go through training camp or whatever, but we're talking about overtime.

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Speaker 2: If you give me two years to work with NBA

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Speaker 2: players to get them ready to play, they absolutely can

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Speaker 2: do it. If you put them on the practice field

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Speaker 2: and they practice every day and they work on a

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Speaker 2: certain battery of skills that we're saying you have to

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Speaker 2: have these skills to be able to play, they can

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Speaker 2: do it. It's a developmental sport. It's a developmental game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys doing I'm not saying every NBA

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Speaker 2: player can make it, just like every NFL player can't

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Speaker 2: go to the NBA. But if you're asking me, can

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Speaker 2: I find thirty NBA players that can play in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League one hundred percent, I can find thirty

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01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 2: NBA players that can make it a National Football leaguer.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: And I think JJ Watt put a bow about this

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Speaker 1: whole thing. I love what he said. He came back

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Speaker 1: and attacked Austin River. But I say, look, quote, you

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Speaker 1: don't get a job at either right now, go ahead

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01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: and try it. This is what what put on an

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Speaker 1: X And then he followed up. He said. He admitted

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Speaker 1: that he couldn't play in the NBA, and he's courting now.

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Speaker 1: For the record, I could absolutely not play in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Six hard fouls is about all I could give you

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Speaker 1: and call it a day. I love it, so JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. You put it all together. Now

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Speaker 1: I got to move on to there. We got a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes here. Let me put this together here,

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Speaker 1: because this is one thing I really don't get. I

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Speaker 1: really don't because this is a stretch. This is a

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Speaker 1: weak criticism. And remember without the quarterbacks that were picked

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. Six quarterbacks were taken in the

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Speaker 1: first twelve picks of this past draft. The seventh quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, he waited five rounds and he waited two

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Speaker 1: days to be drafted. He drafted one hundred and fiftieth

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Speaker 1: overall by the New Orleans Saints, and then it was

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Speaker 1: reported by the NFL network. I believe that he was

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Speaker 1: dumped that far down because he had a show in

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Speaker 1: high school, a reality show called QB one Beyond the Lights,

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Speaker 1: and they said it didn't make them look great. And

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable how many different teams mentioned to to him

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Speaker 1: on the NFL network. I think it was Ian Rappaport

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Speaker 1: mentioned to him that the image in the show and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't get out of their heads, which would be

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Speaker 1: a public service announcement to all seventeen year olds. But

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating that it did not help him in the draft. Look,

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01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: it's a high school thing, it's a high school show.

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01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: How could that affect him in the NFL Draft? I

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01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: don't get it.

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01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's not even so no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: So here's what happens. And so here's another thing that

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01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:36,679
Speaker 2: the public should understand. Every NFL draft prospect, their high

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01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 2: school coach gets a questionnaire from NFL teams because what

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01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 2: you're trying to do is really find out who the

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 2: player is. And so what you're trying to do is

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01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 2: track how they're not only how their skills develop over time,

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 2: but how did their personalities develop? And what you're trying

2342
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 2: to assess is what is this player really going to

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 2: be like when we get him in the building. Because

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 2: of the minted contact that NFL teams have with prospects,

2345
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 2: they're trying to get a full, comprehensive background report on

2346
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,560
Speaker 2: who this player is. Going to be. So it's not

2347
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: uncommon to go talk to a high school coach. It's

2348
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: not uncommon to talk to a high school teacher or

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01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 2: principal about an athlete. What Spencer Radler did by going

2350
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 2: on QB one, he allowed scouts to see who he

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 2: was at seventeen. It's not to say that he couldn't change,

2352
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,640
Speaker 2: but that first impression matters. Now, I'll say this, a

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01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: lot of times people are who they were in high school.

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01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I've been around athletes. I've coached these athletes at camps

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01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 2: around the league. A lot of times, the way they

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01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: were at eighteen nineteen is the same way they're going

2357
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: to be at twenty two to twenty three. Being around

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01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk when Christian Kirk was a high school sophomore

2359
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 2: in junior, watching him develop the professionalism that he displayed

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01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 2: in he was the same way at his high school

2361
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 2: years as he is with the Jacksonville Jaguars when I

2362
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: see him, love for ball, loved his business or whatever.

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Same thing with Calvin Ridley or whatever. So when people

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01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 2: get outraged about the Spencer rather stuff, it's because like

2365
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: they shouldn't, because people are trying to figure out who

2366
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 2: he was and he was a jerk on that show.

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01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 2: I would say he was a jerk on that show.

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: I think he was suspended his last year of high

2369
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 2: school where he didn't play his last year in Arizona

2370
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. So like that is something that you want

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01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: to take into consideration. How is he going to fit

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01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 2: into the locker room. Yes, he might have matured from

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01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 2: those years he went from Oklahoma to South Carolina and

2374
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 2: they talked about how he was or whatever, but it's

2375
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: still part of the evaluation how is he fit. But

2376
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 2: that's not the reason why he fell in the draft.

2377
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: The reason why he fell in the draft, well, people

2378
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 2: perceived him to fall. The reason why he went fifth

2379
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: round is because when you look at Spencer rather Spencer

2380
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 2: Radler is six ' to one. Spencer Ralla has a

2381
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 2: slender frame. Spencer Rally doesn't have great athleticism. He has

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01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 2: I would say B B plus arm talent. That's why

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01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: he went. He doesn't have the superpowers that some of

2384
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 2: the other guys at the top of the board have,

2385
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 2: and so when you're evaluating guys, you're looking for the

2386
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,560
Speaker 2: superpowers that are going to allow them to succeed. He

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01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have as many as the other guys, which is

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01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 2: why he was graded the way that he was graded,

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 2: which fifth round pick is a developmental player who could

2390
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 2: be a backup in the league. That's how the league saw.

2391
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: Now that's up for it's on him to prove otherwise.

2392
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 2: But that's why he's a fifth round pick, not because

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 2: of his appearance on QB one.

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01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: No, you say he was a jerk on QB one.

2395
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 1: It was reported here that one clip from the show.

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01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: This clip had almost seven hundred and seventy five thousand

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01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,959
Speaker 1: views on YouTube. It showed Spencer Radler laying into receivers

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: during practice and also getting into an argument with the

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01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 1: junior quarterback J D. Johnson, and he says, quote, what

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01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: did you do in one on ones? Johnson asked Radler.

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 1: Quote I blamed it on you, said Radler, because quote,

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01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 1: you sucked. That's what he did.

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01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Say.

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01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 1: He was a jerk, I guess on this show and

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01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people remember that. So that was part

2406
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: of the reason you're right is slender Frame was.

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01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: A slender framing on it, but he was a jerk

2408
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: because I remember watching the show. Because you know what,

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01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: that series also had guys like Justin Fields on it.

2410
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 2: Sam Hartman the quarterback from Notre Dame who made his

2411
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 2: way to the Commanders. He's been on it. Jake fromm

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01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: was featured on it. Like there are a bunch of

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01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 2: these shows that have featured these quarterbacks. We've never heard it.

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01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 2: We didn't hear justin Fields Disparas when he was on

2415
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,560
Speaker 2: QB one, they had an opportunity to see him. No

2416
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 2: one talked about it. It was only because of Spencer

2417
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Ratler's behavior, not because of the show. His behavior was

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01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 2: egregious to the point you're like, my god, like why

2419
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 2: would you like this guy? He was unlikable when you

2420
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: watch the show. That certainly matters when it comes to that.

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01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: And it's funny you mentioned you say that some kids

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01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: who are seventeen, they remain with that same personality when

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01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: they're twenty two or twenty three. It says here in

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01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: the report that the image of Rattler and QB one

2425
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 1: as a combative teammate with terrible leadership tendencies followed him

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01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: around to his early enrollment with the Oklahoma Sooners and

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01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 1: also to his transfer to South Carolina. How do you

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01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: like that? So he didn't change at all, or it

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01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: didn't change as much. So no that hurts it.

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01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the other thing.

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01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams talked about.

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01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 2: He was mad at Lincoln Riley that he wasn't the

2433
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 2: starting quarterback from day one at Oklahoma because he felt

2434
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 2: like he was a better player than Spencer Ratler from

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01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: the jump. He said that on the podcast to Pivot

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01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: like he talked about that. I'm paraphrasing, but he talked

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01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 2: about that. So none of this stuff is made up,

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01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Like the patterns of behavior tend to follow you unless

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01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 2: you do a really deep dive into why you were

2440
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 2: the way you were and you make changes. So he

2441
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: may have changed, he may have become more mature, but

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01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 2: you talked about it. So now you've looked up that

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01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 2: people talked about it at Oklahoma, they talked about at

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01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 2: South Carolina or whatever. All of that stuff mattered because

2445
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: it was first shown in QB one. And when you

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01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 2: ask other people about if Fallow Spencer red, there you go.

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01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: Good thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not on QB one, how any like that? All right?

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Speaker 1: He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox

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01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready. It's the game that

2451
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: everybody loves. The blame game is freaking next. All right,

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: the blame game coming right up. It's about ten minutes

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01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: before the top of the hour. This is Fox Sports

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01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Andy Furman. We're live from the tierraq dot Com studios.

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01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, at the top of the hour

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: nine am Eastern time, the Swollen Doom himself Mike Harmer

2458
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: will join Ryan Hollins. And of course, as far as

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01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: our shows concerned, I want to thank the crew. Mark Ramsey, marvelous. Mark.

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01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: I tell you what, he's the best, Isaac long Crown

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01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: with all the sports updates. And Shay Shay, Shay Shay

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01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: do it baby. But let's play the blame game, all right.

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01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 1: The main made himself, Shay Sheha take it away with

2464
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: the blame game.

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01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 4: Let's send it off on a high note. Guys, college athletes,

2466
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 4: employees are students.

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01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: Who do you blame? Who's up first?

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01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 4: Let's go with you Andy.

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01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: You know what, though I blame the media and I

2470
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 1: blame college presidents. They don't have the handing downs, they

2471
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: don't have the onions to say, look, this is an

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: institution of higher learning. You're a student, You're not an athlete.

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01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: You're an athlete first. No, no, you're a student first

2474
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 1: and an athlete. It's changed now nowither are athletes students.

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01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Just just the way it is right now. That's the

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01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 1: way the system is, and it stinks.

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01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: I won't say to the stinks. I think it's always

2478
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 2: been a situation where they've been working for the university.

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01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 2: The difference that it's different. What's different is they now

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01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 2: deserve to get paid for their work. Everyone else's benefiting

2481
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 2: off of them, university ads, coaches, everyone was making the

2482
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 2: money and they didn't send any money to the players.

2483
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 2: They now just tipped the scales where the players are

2484
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: getting their just due, which is a share of the revenue.

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01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 2: It should have been done a long time ago.

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01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 4: Last week, matt Ishia, Phoenix Suns owner said his team

2487
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 4: was in great shape. Ben he fired first year coach

2488
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 4: Frank Vogel.

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01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 1: Who do you blame, Bucky?

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01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 2: I blame the owner. I blame the owner because he

2491
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 2: had outside expectations. He thought that owning an NBA team

2492
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: is like fantasy football, fantasy basketball. You just bring all

2493
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: these players, get the top guys, and i'mnna win. It

2494
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 2: doesn't work like that. You got to put together team.

2495
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: They didn't put together good team, which is why they're

2496
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 2: lose them.

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01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, obviously your team wasn't in great shape. I'll

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01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: tell you what. Heither, use your mind. Your mind's not

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01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: in great shape. Because look, first you say your team

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01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: was in great shape. First of all, you probably had

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01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure for media people, and you know what,

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01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: you have no scruples, you know what, Stick with Vogel.

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01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: He's a good coach. He did a good job in Indianapolis.

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01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I hope the Phoenix Suns never

2505
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: win because you're the owner.

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01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 4: How do you like that Minnesota Timberwise guard Anthony Edwards

2507
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 4: being compared to Michael Jordan.

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01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Who do you blame?

2509
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 4: Let's start with you.

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01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take care of this because again, this is

2511
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: a media fascination, you know, you know, just leave Anthony

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01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: Edwards alone. He's a great player. He's going to be

2513
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 1: a super duper player. He's a superstar in the making

2514
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 1: right now for the Minnesota Timberwolves. But to compare him

2515
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: of a guy who's retired with a track regular of

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01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: what he has. You know, anybody who says that's an idiot.

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 1: Anybody who says that's a fool. It'll be great to

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01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: be compared to him. When he can be compared to him,

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01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: It's too early. The time is not yet for Anthony Edwards.

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01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Anthony errors far because he's too good. He's so

2521
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: good that we had to start digging into the anamals

2522
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 2: to try and figure out who could we compare ant

2523
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Man too and so naturally, when you look at his personality,

2524
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 2: you look at his game, people are trying to figure

2525
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 2: out man, who is he like? He is like Jordan

2526
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 2: in terms of the competitor streak, the way that he

2527
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 2: jawed at Kevin Durant as Anthony was far. He's too good.

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01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 4: Deon Sanders had some controversial remarks on social media last week.

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01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 4: Does the media get the blame for baiting him?

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01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 1: Buck?

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01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like, look, he look, people love clip bait

2532
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 2: and we love Dean Sanders because we know he's can

2533
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 2: get a reaction one way or the other. Dean Sanders

2534
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 2: is the blame for falling for the bait. But he

2535
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: has to know this is a media trick. You know what.

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01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Dan Sanders is a center of attention. He's become like

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01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: the villain of America. Really, whatever he does, people follow

2538
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: his every move, and a lot of these media people

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01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: can't wait for him to lose and fail Colorado. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But Deands's own worst enemy because he

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Speaker 1: did say that his controversial remarks were made because get this,

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Speaker 1: he was bored. Come on, Dion, you're not bored. Do something.

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Speaker 1: Can't believe it, that's it, that's what it'll be done.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Can't believe it all right? Next up swollen

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Speaker 1: Dome Ryan Hollins right here on Fox Sports Radio, hang

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Speaker 1: with him.