1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Gabrielle 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Carterras has been fighting for workers' rights for decades. No 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: matter what industry you're in. Gabrielle has some solid tips 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: for finding your voice, standing your ground, and supporting one 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: another along the way. You won't want to miss this. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: People really look to us as women who made it 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: in a tricky time in the industry, and I'm not 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: really sure if it's that much different now. 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine it's not. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Can you please help our listeners, no matter what industry 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: they are in, stand up for themselves. Let me ask you, 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: in the negotiation process right out of the gate, should 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: women always ask for more money? What's the smartest way 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: to do that? 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it depends what you want out 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: of the negotiation, and negotiations not only about money, right, 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: So if you're saying that women are paid less than 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: men and that women should demand to be able to 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: have equal pay equal pay, then I absolutely, but that's 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: not always what it negotiation is about. But so there 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: can be many things. But yes, I think that it 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: is very important and it's not just a woman. I 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: think men should demand it as well. But anybody who 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: does commensurate work to somebody. Yes, we should all be 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: paid fairly and it shouldn't matter about our sex. That 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: this is a question for me as enraging. I mean, 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: it's just it doesn't make sense to me at all. 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: If my work is really good, regardless of my sex, 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: and this person's work is really good, we should be paid. 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to go in have to 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: make a deal. 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous that we have to fight to have 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: equal pay. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: It's disgusting, it's terrible. 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, especially when it's you know, but our apples 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: to Apple's, like we've all had the same experience. We 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: both bring so much to the table. 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think it's actually when the whole thing 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: I told you about with Luke and I, for me 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: that was like a that was a really aha moment 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: in my life. 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: Right yeah. 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So don't be afraid. 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: Or be afraid. Fear is not a bad thing. I 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: think we all have fear. It's learning to let fear 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: walk by your side. You can walk side by side 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: with fear and still do things in your life you don't. 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Fear is something that dissipates only when we move forward. 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't you can't push it away. So you can 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: be afraid but still know that you have value. You 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: can be afraid and you can still go and be 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: clear about what you deserve. And you don't have to 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: have shame about that, right, you know. I mean, we 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: don't have to apologize for the work that we do. 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's one thing to say I want you 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: to pay me, but I'm not going to show up. 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do a very good job. 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: But if you're showing up and you're doing that job, 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: that shouldn't be a question. That should not be a debate. Yes, 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: So you can have fear, I'm not going to stay, 61 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: don't it fear. Regardless of your fear, know that you 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: have value and that nothing will change unless you ask 63 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: for it. Nothing will change really unless you ask for it. 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: So true, once you're in a job and you're feeling 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: discriminated against or harassed in some way, who do you 66 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: go to? Do you go to human resources? Because I've 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: been told that human resources are there for the company, 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: not so much the individual. 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: I think it depends on the company. I just I 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: hate blanket stuff, so I can't say there are other 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: HR there's people I know who work in HR who 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: are very high integrity, and they are really they're doing 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: the work of HR. But just like in any place, 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: you can be in another place that's not like that, 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: but if they're not doing it. Look, I'm the kind 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: of person if something really bothers me, I'll be loud 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: and proud. So I can't. I know that that might 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: not be the path of everybody. But even like when 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: I was injured, and you know it was you know, 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: the producers were so terrible me. The producer who was 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: so bad I went public. He couldn't believe I went 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: into the press and there were a lot of repercussions 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: for that. He gave out my personal address, He did 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: all these things that the courts found him, you know, 85 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: to be wrong, and he was fine for But I 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: say be proud and loud, and if you think you can't, 87 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: that's only a thought that we don't have to let 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: our fear be the thing that stops us again. It 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: can exist at the same time as you walk forward. 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: That's right. 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: It's so good to remember that two things can exist 92 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: at the same thing. Yeah, So, do you have any 93 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: suggestions or maybe people should try different ways like to 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: document things to protect themselves before they go into report something. 95 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I always think it's not only 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: good to write down information to be specific, but it's 97 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: also I respond, I keep bring up my case. But 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: that was a big movement for me, a moment because 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: I won that case after nine years. 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: No, that was a long battle. 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: It was a long battle. I say every email that 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: is sent to you and that you keep everything. I 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: journaled from the minute I got injured I started to journal. 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: It was five years later that they were able to 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: look at my journal to get information on people that 106 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: I could never remember, the names that I was so 107 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: sure i'd remember right at the time, like I'll never 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: forget this. Well, guess what I forgot. But it was 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: all in writing. So yes, you should write everything down, 110 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: write dann what people are saying. If somebody says something 111 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: to you and it's not in writing, you can confirm 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: the conversation in an email or a text. You could 113 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: say I just wanted to reiterate, or say I heard 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: you when you said this. I want to make sure 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 3: I was hearing that correctly. Do really keep a track 116 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: of everything because time can go for a while and 117 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: you could always be able to fall back to that documentation. 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: And also it helps to release you. I think the 119 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: more you document, the less you hold on to it 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: emotionally and perseverate over it. I think it gives you 121 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: room to think beyond. So it's important to document. 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that's good. Supporting one another is vital in 123 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: any kind of work environment, and so often we're pitted 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: against one another as actors competing for the same jobs, 125 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the same press, etc. Do you have ideas for people 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: so that they can forge relationships and alliances at work, 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: so there is that support, that community, that group. You know, 128 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: when when you're not just keeping it inside like you did, 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: or like I did. 130 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Asks people to lunch, you know, take a moment. That's 131 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: two bad people only working on the computers at home. 132 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: Now. 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: One of the most wonderful things I think can be 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: the work environment. It doesn't always have to be hostile, 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: but I think that being able to be honest, to 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: stand up not only expect people to stand up for you, 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: but stand up for them right. You want to mirror 138 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: the thing that you want to have have and for you, 139 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: it's really important and so I think that you know, 140 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: take a moment away from yourself, look at the person. 141 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: You did a great job today, or I really admired 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: when you said that one thing. I'd love to talk 143 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: to you more about that. I think that we make 144 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: it less about ourselves more about the other and about us. 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: I think that garners a really much healthier environment. 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I love that. 147 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? 148 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: The most anticipated guest from season three is here the 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: Tray to My Charlotte. Kyle McGlaughlin joins me to relive 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: all of the magical Tray and Charlotte moments. He reveals 151 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby? 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? 153 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: As literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me 154 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 2: at all. 155 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: When he found out Tray's shortcomings, I'm. 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Kind of excited to talking about. 157 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's the guy's time in Central Park. 158 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: You know, he's probably be some. 159 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Surgery stuff, you know, And I was like, all this 160 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff going on, and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, 161 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and they said, but he's impotent, And I was like, he's. 162 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: Impotent, and why he chose not to return to and 163 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: just like that, they came and presented an idea and 164 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: I was like, I get I see it. 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: It's so kind of a one joke idea. 166 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss this. 167 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 169 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: Hey, it's Wilfredll and Sabrina Bryan. 170 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 6: From the podcast Magical Rewind and we have a very 171 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 6: special guest on this week's episode. He's the mastermind behind 172 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 6: some of your favorite movies like Hocus Pocus, Newsy's, The Descendants, 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 6: and of course High School Musical. Yes, it is the 174 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 6: one and only a living legend director Kenny or Tega. 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 5: We sit down with Kenny to talk about his incredible 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: career and the legacy he's created with his choreography and films. 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 6: You seriously will not want to miss this one. 178 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 5: Listen to Magical Rewind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 179 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcast Yes. 180 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: When did the intimacy coordinator come into play? 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: God, so we're in twenty twenty. I think first of all, 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: the intimacy coordinators existed on the stage. That was something 183 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: that existed in theaters because they needed to find a 184 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: way to make it work on stage to look like 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: you're having sex and not have sex. Than when the 186 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: Harvey Weinstein moment came, and that was so look at 187 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: people spoke out for the first time saying, not only 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: he did stuff, but you started hearing stories the me 189 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: too movement that nobody had heard before, and so there were. 190 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: Actors who talked about it. 191 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: We started talking on a global level around the world 192 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: about this was happening in every country, and women were 193 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: starting to admit that, yes, this had happened. 194 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Men had talked about it happening. 195 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 3: And then we started talking about this intimacy coordinator thing. 196 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: HBO had started doing it and owning it for their 197 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: productions because they had more hyper exposed work, and then 198 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: we started to talk amongst each other. Then started bringing 199 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: in intimacy coordinators from theater who started to do it 200 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: into you know, film, and then we said, but what 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: about TV? Because TV is much more explicit now than 202 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: it was when we started. 203 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: We talk about how different, you know. 204 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I feel like a grandma when I thought, oh. 205 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: My god, they feel like we had we didn't have 206 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: you sell your phones then. But anyway, so it's but 207 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: so that's it started. I think in twenty twenty, twenty nineteen. 208 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh god, it's been too I can't tell you the 209 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: exact year that we really started to work on that. Now, 210 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: I mean sag after. You know, they've just now made 211 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: intimacy coordinators a category, a category, which is amazing. They're represented, 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: they get great, I mean that gosh there, I think 213 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: right now in negotiations actually with them, you know, for 214 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: them to have you know, so they can figure out 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: the wages. 216 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: And all that. It's amazing. 217 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: I can't believe that it started as a concept when 218 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: I was in the presidency and the evolution it's taken 219 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: through you know, fran Dresher when she was president and 220 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: how it grew and then now we're you know, Sean 221 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: Aston is there and I'm excited to see. It's so 222 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: interesting to see the birth of something. 223 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: Right, especially something like that, like as an actress, having 224 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: had no support other than a male director and a 225 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: male co star during those intimate scenes where we have 226 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: to portray certain. 227 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Friend of a crew of one hundred men usually. 228 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: But it's not that way anymore, thank god. It's much 229 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: more diverse. But back in the day, yeah, I would 230 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: have felt so much more comfortable if I had an 231 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator, just somebody there, somebody say has a different perspective, 232 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: is not trying to get anything from you. 233 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: And so have you able to say something I'm not 234 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: feeling comfortable about this? You know, well, how would you 235 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: feel comfortable? Let's talk about that. Or intimacy coordinators aren't 236 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: also just for a hyperds those sex scenes. Think about 237 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: somebody who has to play a pedophile. We talk about 238 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 3: this all the time, and they have to do it 239 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: with a child. They're not doing anything, but even that 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: you know, and you you're a parent, and that feeling 241 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: that you have about that, and I don't know how 242 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: to how to reconcile, like how do I make it 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: so that the child doesn't feel and how do I 244 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: make sure they have a voice? Like I am telling 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: you it is one of the greatest things that is 246 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: being put into our work. 247 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I think so too, Yeah, I definitely think so. What's 248 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: one piece of advice that you live by every day? 249 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: Be true to yourself, Be true to yourself, Be true 250 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: to yourself, be true to yourself. 251 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: Everybody. 252 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: You might hear a lot of different this is what's 253 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: done and this is what it's done. 254 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: Be true to yourself. In the end, it's all make believe. 255 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Right, That's the thing you always hear. Well, this is 256 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: how we do it. 257 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: This is how we've always done it, This is how 258 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: they do, this is what they want, this is what 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: they're looking for, this is what they want. 260 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Are you okay with that? 261 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: And you're like I, I guess everybody everyways doing it. 262 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: Ye, be true to yourself, Be tu yourself. 263 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: It's very good advice. So you just gave an actor, 264 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: no advice. 265 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: I just shared a thought with a friend. 266 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,119 Speaker 1: Any other last words for those working hard everywhere? 267 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: Bravo, bravo. 268 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what else can you say? Thank you for your 269 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: time on the pod with me. I so appreciate you 270 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: being here. And so many people are out there working 271 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: really hard in the entertainment industry, so you are amazing 272 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and everybody really appreciates all the work that you do. 273 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 274 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: I really appreciate being here, and I appreciate every single 275 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: person who's really out there putting it out there. Yeah, 276 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: because it makes a difference. It makes a difference.