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Speaker 1: In the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the eighties, it was this whole

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Speaker 2: Blazian mixedy thing that's cracking now.

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Speaker 1: It's like, nigga, what are you? Was what it was

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Speaker 1: when I grew up?

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm black. Both my parents black, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. My mother's half and half you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? But both my parents black. Yeah, so I'm black? Like, no,

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Speaker 2: you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're not? Are black? All right, nigga, let's fight? What up?

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Speaker 3: Y'all? Welcome to Not My Best MoMA with me Kep

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Speaker 3: on stage, New York Times best selling author of Successful Failure.

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Speaker 3: It's not about me Today. Today we have Jay Valentine.

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Speaker 3: We usually talk to artists, athletes, and entertainers, but today

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Speaker 3: we have friends. Jay Valentine is a more Tie platinum

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Speaker 3: R and B singer, songwriter, manager and podcaster of Have

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Speaker 3: y'all won any awards?

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Speaker 1: Yet? You had to? They don't give us nothing.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, not even NAMAACP Image Ward nomination.

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Speaker 1: I Think I'm too wild du to b I Think I'm.

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Speaker 3: Award winning co host of the podcast R and B Money,

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Speaker 3: credited with the songwriting work on Tank singles When We

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Speaker 3: Emergency with credits with other artists, including ty Reese's I

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Speaker 3: Like Them Girls, the title track of nd CC's album Celebrity, Marios,

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Speaker 3: how Could You? And on Marians, I'm trying to my

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Speaker 3: favorite R and B song of all time? Up R

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Speaker 3: and B Music, I mean R and B readmis Future,

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Speaker 3: Chris Browning Pleasure Loving Other Drugs, The Testimony, and Tanks Slow.

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Speaker 3: You can catch them on iHeart, which is our family

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Speaker 3: R and B Money podcast. He's also Tanks manager and

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Speaker 3: business partner.

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Speaker 2: He's also I don't manage anymore. Oh ya, I don't

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Speaker 2: manage anymore.

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Speaker 3: You're done business partner only.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.

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Speaker 3: You also worked behind the scenes on albums with Ronald Eisley,

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Speaker 3: Keisha Cole, Tyree So, toy Lucket and Jin Wine. Ladies

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, Jay Valentine, thank you, good brother. You also

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Speaker 3: be hooping y'all In case y'all don't know now, Jay Valentine,

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Speaker 3: you My wife loves you. She put me onto Jay Valentine,

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Speaker 3: she put me on the R and B Money.

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Speaker 1: Your wife is great.

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Speaker 3: She's a great. She's a great woman. She was at

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Speaker 3: the podcast. She told me that if I did R

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Speaker 3: and B Money, she couldn't come. Then I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, I haven't been asked, but I'll make

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Speaker 3: sure to let Ja Valentine. And when you hit me,

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Speaker 3: she was like, can I come? I said, Jae Valentine said,

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Speaker 3: You're cool. She had a great time. But let's go

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Speaker 3: all the way back to you as an artist. Y'all

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Speaker 3: might not know this, but I do. You had to

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Speaker 3: change your name in order to continue working in the

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Speaker 3: music business. What is the story behind that?

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Speaker 2: My father was a thub. It's pretty simple. It's pretty simple, man.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had a record deal. I was in

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Speaker 2: a kids group with my brothers. Group was called the Neutrons,

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Speaker 2: which was named after my father. Our last name is Newt.

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Speaker 2: My father's name is Ryan uh And if you put

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Speaker 2: Newt and Roan, you have new Tron.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: It was a little thing.

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Speaker 1: It was his group. It was his group, his group.

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Speaker 3: I was put my name back. Yeah, yeah, Neutrons also,

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Speaker 3: you feel me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of cool ship going on, right, the

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Speaker 2: new Tron dance. It was a whole bunch of ship

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Speaker 2: You know, he was pretty much raised in the industry

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Speaker 2: by Joe Jackson. You know what I mean That was

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Speaker 2: his guy. I'm sorry guy, and actually gave us our

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Speaker 2: first deal Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're young, young young ye I was five,

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Speaker 1: j Valentine, did you call me ja villain? Man? I

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Speaker 1: see what you're doing here?

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Speaker 3: You got me? I did publicly and the way he answered,

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Speaker 3: I said, Bye, don't know what you smooth?

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Speaker 2: You smooth, you smooth, just relaxed, Okay, all right, No

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Speaker 2: you don't usually know you just you still be going.

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Speaker 3: I do this time? I cool, Let's go back. Joe

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Speaker 3: Jackson got gave you your first record label through your dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we were signing to Jackson Records.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know Joe Jackson how to record level?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Records. Come on, man, why would he not?

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Speaker 3: It makes perfect, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, Joe had a label It's called Jackson Records,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he was looking for talent for talent,

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Speaker 2: and we did end up doing a deal with him,

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Speaker 2: and that's what created our connection and our families, us

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Speaker 2: in the three t's pretty much growing up together. That

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Speaker 2: was still my guys to this day. Jackie's daughtering Brandy

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Speaker 2: And then when I was ten, we ended up getting

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Speaker 2: to MCA Records it. And you know, Joe was Joe

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Speaker 2: was part of our management with my dad. He's part

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Speaker 2: weren't moving fast enough for my dad. They weren't moving

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Speaker 2: fast enough. They were you know, it was it was

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Speaker 3: Well that will put some pressure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you knew he had to go back

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, I'm sorry, it's just registered. Yeah, escaped convict.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. They couldn't hold him. Hold on, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't hold him.

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Speaker 3: I heard expelling escaped me. I was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: in there with y'all. Yeah, but I decided I'm not

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How long was your dad escaped?

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Speaker 1: How long was your dad escaped?

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Speaker 2: He was out, He was free ish for about a year,

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Speaker 2: a year and a half almost.

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Speaker 3: So he gotta make he gotta make some moves yeah.

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Speaker 2: So within that time though, got us our record deal.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot was they gave him a whole

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Speaker 2: was really doing a lot of the independent hustle very

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Speaker 2: He was leaking records and he's like, you know, leak

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Speaker 2: are people, these people's masters, right. Well, he went he

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Speaker 2: this guy named Eddie barber shot Eddie Barber Man.

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Speaker 1: Cool old, cool, old white nigga man. It's cool.

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Speaker 2: I think I ain't talk to him a long time,

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Speaker 2: but I know he's still out here. They got together,

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Speaker 2: And we had in the Bay Area we had we

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Speaker 2: like along with like obviously people know about the Box,

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Speaker 3: So Beat got it.

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Speaker 1: It was like so Beat that was something from man.

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Speaker 2: I think it was right at the East Mount mall

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Speaker 2: and eventually they caved and put us out. But they like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well we'll put you out, but we don't really give

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Speaker 2: which is old music.

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Speaker 1: Business, right, that's how it used to go.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, we'll teach you a lesson, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, we'll put it out.

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Speaker 2: We won't we won't really promote it, won't really market it.

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Speaker 1: You know. We were doing in stores man. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I was working on a Mario and

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Speaker 3: Wow, pre social media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, nigga, what is this? I said, nigga,

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Speaker 1: it was you.

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Speaker 2: It ain't nothing, ain't nothing, man, I did this right, right.

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Speaker 2: We were working on a Marion back in the underdog days,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have any of our product way, the label wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Old school school label.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna teach, we go.

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Speaker 3: Teach what you mean. I've heard a lot of artists

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Speaker 2: But imagine we got we're we're at one spot and

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Speaker 2: it's five thousand kids.

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Speaker 3: And they have nothing.

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Speaker 2: Oh so we signed anything we can sign, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean like but eventually, you know, my father started

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Speaker 2: Somebody got to see me. Well now here we are, right,

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Speaker 2: so you know, and it was you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: what ended up happening is my father ended up being

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Speaker 2: blackballed in the music business completely, completely, completely, wow, completely completely,

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Speaker 2: and it was attached to our name, you know what

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Speaker 2: and he was he got he just got put in

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Speaker 2: so that it was just it was just on our name.

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Speaker 2: It was on our name. So I had obviously I moved,

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Speaker 2: moved back to the Bay, grew up a little bit,

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Speaker 2: came back when I was eighteen, came back when I

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Speaker 2: was eighteen. And when I came back, I didn't really know.

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Speaker 2: I knew a little, but not really like you know,

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Speaker 2: you would hear stuff like yeah, man, yeah we don't

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Speaker 2: know if you know, people gonna really deal with your

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Speaker 2: dad or do this that and the other.

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Speaker 1: And but I came down by myself. Hm.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, I'm taking meetings. I got

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Speaker 2: my little songs, had me a ten pack of songs.

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Speaker 2: I thought I was doing something. Yeah, yeah, because I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to publishing deal. I want a publishing deal

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Speaker 2: because I wasn't even trying to be an artist.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain that I don't understand the music business.

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Speaker 2: So publishing deal is same things like book publishing, right,

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Speaker 1: An advance so that you can live as a songwriter

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Speaker 2: Why you try this and the intention also is and

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Speaker 2: right when you walk into a studio and you say, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is keV Okav what okay Fredericks?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well what is keV Fredericks? Now?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, Kev's just signed the BMG. Our keVs just

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Speaker 2: Now the artist, the manager whoever, is like, oh, he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 1: So why are you here, keV?

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Speaker 3: You gotta have you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Who you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to do something, but.

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Speaker 2: Not even at that time to this day, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's the same thing like you walking. If you

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Speaker 1: In publishing, right, Big John Platt, Big John? Right? No, No,

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Speaker 1: he's actually Big John is from Denver. It's from Denver.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking Broke jay Z, Beyonce, like you know, Warren Campbell,

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Speaker 2: You've done it, right, Yeah, and he and he does

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Speaker 2: Oh you know I just signed a Big John. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: He is a person. Yes, and he has a company.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, well he runs Sony now Sony

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Speaker 3: Got it. It's like I get this deal. The publisher says, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Jay Valentine's song gonna go with you know this R

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happens is you get if it's a

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Speaker 2: couple of type of deals you can do. Obviously it's

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Speaker 2: it's changed over time. Now deals are a lot different

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Speaker 4: But that's nessarily placed or ten songs written, placed, got

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Speaker 2: If I co write it with somebody, that might be

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Speaker 2: ten okay, ten one hundred percent songs. So that's why

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Speaker 2: I was trying to get. I was like, Yo, I

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Speaker 2: need fifty thousand. I just needed fifty in my mind,

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Speaker 2: A nigga, give me fifty.

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Speaker 3: I'm up exact amount of money took for me.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I needed fifty. I wasn't s plaiting

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to get off the floor because

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Speaker 1: Whoa, yeah, trying to get to it nine months nine

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Speaker 3: Okay, little kid, but still done now.

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Speaker 1: I was grown in my mind for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was definitely grown in my mind, like I've been

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Speaker 2: grown since I was probably like eleven or twelve.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jackson maybe ten.

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Speaker 3: Did you have to call him Joseph?

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Speaker 1: Uh? What did we call that, old nigga? He said,

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Speaker 3: You need that fifty right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I needed I was.

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Speaker 2: I need that fifty because I wanted a land Cruiser.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember those.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I remember, like you was outside range Rover was my

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Speaker 3: I saw they made land Cruiser and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Saying you know, family, I'm just saying yeah, I mean no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I actually wasn't the same family. See Toyota land Cruiser.

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Speaker 2: Oh big body, I feel you know you went out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm at the street. I used to sell.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get to that. I said, now it makes.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, it was. That was like the

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Speaker 2: There was a car when I was like I need

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Speaker 2: in my mind. I'm like I'm cooking. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, let me take some meetings. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I got I got some I had some opportunities to

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Speaker 3: Who is he? He got it?

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Speaker 1: And then they're like, wait, he's.

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Speaker 3: Who oh snap, he can't get it.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to work nigga.

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Speaker 3: And you ain't even do nothing.

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Speaker 1: I do nothing. Wow, I wasn't even from Acorn nothing. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, kep he're going to take a quick break

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Speaker 3: from the show and hear from our sponsor. So when

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Speaker 2: Maybe about six months in, six to eight months in

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Speaker 2: it was like, Yo, some gotta give, Yeah, some got

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Speaker 1: Has some meetings. Bro. They love you that name though,

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Speaker 1: they think your daddy coming. I'm grown. What do you mean,

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Speaker 3: And how many years have passed between these two this

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Speaker 2: Maybe about six Also they forgot yeah, maybe about six

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Speaker 2: four He had been out maybe about four years, and

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Speaker 2: they knew somehow they knew he was out. The new

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Speaker 2: Pops was out man, And probably yeah, been about four years.

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Speaker 2: But about six six six maybe six months of just

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Speaker 1: I'm on the floor. I'm trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: The work was still pulling up to the floor though

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Speaker 2: they just you know what I mean, like it was

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Speaker 3: Still if you if you got it, they.

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Speaker 1: Understand talent man, talent, bro talent nothing. You was on

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Speaker 3: J that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Blanket and a pillow, empty room, empty room.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why this man had a house that

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like I was hooping and I had a

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Speaker 2: So I mean it was it was like a little

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Speaker 1: Sure, but that didn't fully come through.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, everybody knows that, no, no nigga, like

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred could have changed my life for sure. No, no,

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying literally that number, that exact number. If

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Speaker 2: never came out here. Simple as that simple as that

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Speaker 1: For said school for fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: For fifteen hundred dollars. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So and then you need you come here and

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Speaker 3: you need fifty.

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Speaker 2: I need fifty though, because I'm like in music, I

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Speaker 2: know I'm a pro, right, I always know I was

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Speaker 3: Really, but I mean you were pro as a kid

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson at five. Bro, like me and my brothers

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Speaker 2: and family, and like, this is the coldest nigga who

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Speaker 3: Earth at five at five?

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Speaker 1: At ten, I have a major record deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm performing on Soul Train, I'm doing Donnie Simpson video.

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Speaker 1: So me and my brothers we're on tour. I'm a pro.

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Speaker 2: I buy my mother a mink jacket, me and my

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Speaker 3: So how you go from that to the floor and

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Speaker 2: It just never defined me even as a kid that

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Speaker 2: it never defined me neither nothing not the five thousand

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out how to get it in any room.

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Speaker 1: I going you know, what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like, so for me, that's why the pivot has been

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's why when you mentioned, oh, well, the

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Speaker 2: of that. But it don't matter if it's you know,

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Speaker 2: managing tank, are discovering Chief Keith, I'm going to figure

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Speaker 3: What do you mean discovering chief?

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Speaker 1: Key pitch is left Soesa.

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Speaker 3: I remember that you discovered you Keith.

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Speaker 1: I played a very instrumental part. Yes, the J.

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Speaker 3: Valentine book couldn't even be written.

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Speaker 2: I think it would have to be memoirs. It would

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Speaker 2: have to be like pieces of time. It have to

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Speaker 2: be capsules, got it right? Because I've lived many lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because you were at the forefront of the music industry

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's genius. And then I saw other

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00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: R and B people be like, here's my podcast.

439
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

440
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: But you know, in a lot of ways, ARMB money

441
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 3: is still a gold standard.

442
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: Of Thank you.

443
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely like you y'all.

444
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Still.

445
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: You just had Mary J. Blige a few weeks ago.

446
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: You had kept on stage. He ain't even got the

447
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: R and B. I ain't even dropped yet.

448
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: We had Keith Sweat.

449
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: You had Keith Sweat? Was that his house?

450
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: One of them?

451
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: I said, Man, is this some music? I one of.

452
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: Everywhere? Marble everywhere, marble cheap. No.

453
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: If I would have did like the bts of what

454
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 2: the house really looks like, nigga opulence.

455
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: Opulence, decado'd be the word.

456
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

457
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you this, because you have

458
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: had many lives, has there been a favorite era or

459
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: do you enjoy them all equally?

460
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: The Heipheen movement was pretty turned. Being from the bay right,

461
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: I was on full bullshit. I was on full bullshit

462
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: because I had made a lot of money really early,

463
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: and then once I changed my name. Once I changed

464
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: my name, I got cracking, Like I got a record

465
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: deal within like a month after changing my name.

466
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, within a month.

467
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: But the people know or do they just not put

468
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: two and two together, bro, because now jin.

469
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Niggas be high. That's why I don't do drugs, right

470
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: like niggas. Niggas be high.

471
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Like listen, I've been across the table and see an

472
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 2: executive I meeting with up.

473
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we're going to ask for triple.

474
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: Change your name to Jay Valentine. A monk goes by

475
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: you off the floor.

476
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: So initially I didn't change my name to Jay Valentine.

477
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: I just changed my name to Valentine after a conversation

478
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: with the homie who like, yo, well, what's what's what's

479
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: your full name?

480
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: What you mean? You know, still a street niggad in

481
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: the day, like my social curity number to right?

482
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: But no, in in full honesty, I never liked my

483
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: middle name.

484
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 3: Really, your middle name actually is Valentine.

485
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: He'll tell you what's what's on the what's on the bad?

486
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: It really destined to be.

487
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like.

488
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: Because Valentine as a middle name.

489
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: I'm a black and Chinese nigga with this hair and

490
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: I was born with this too.

491
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: No, you ain't putting this in at this time, the dumb.

492
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you girl, you're going to be a wave. Though

493
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: it's a wave.

494
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm like a nineteen fifties you know what I mean.

495
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm the throwback. I'm really the throwback. But yeah, bro,

496
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: so I'm like my middle name Valentine. You understand, we

497
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: lived in so many different places coming up because my

498
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: father used to hustle around the country, you know what

499
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: I mean.

500
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: Like, it might be.

501
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Cheaper, you know what the fuck it it stecial limitation

502
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: is over, so it's cheaper.

503
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: Closer to the water, got it? Wait, what is cheaper?

504
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Just say it? Okay, understood, it's cheaper closer to the water.

505
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: Now when you start getting inland, yeah, yeah, the prices

506
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: start going.

507
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: Up for sure because you're near the ports. You feel me,

508
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: look at you. That's why you gotta watch. I had

509
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: to tell you, baby, I got to get it in

510
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: here somehow. It's the port.

511
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Hey gonna put you deep down that long storming Hey,

512
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: brother turn this stuff back.

513
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Off in the areas loan for that. You know. So

514
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: we were we were in a lot of different places. Yeah.

515
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: So I went to we have to go to new schools.

516
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: And you think I was gonna tell people at those

517
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: new schools that I had to fight at anyway, like

518
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: like first first week, we fought everywhere. It's literally what

519
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: but my father was also golden gloves. Oh for real,

520
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: all of us can fight.

521
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

522
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: You literally could have went one. I mean your path

523
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: equally could have probably went one or two where.

524
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: Devin Hannes my family for yes, yes, and Bill Hayney

525
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: because as well will whoop you right?

526
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: So and my other cousin is Karee Mayfield, who was

527
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: a pro.

528
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, so we came from fighting, and we

529
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: came from that life and it did us well because

530
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: we used to go to the probably in Indianapolis and

531
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Reno and you know, I mean every.

532
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Part of California. Yeah.

533
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: So, and at this point in the eighties, I grew

534
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: up in the eighties, it was this whole Blazian mixedy

535
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: thing that's cracking now. It's like, nigga, what are you?

536
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Was what it was when I grew up like I'm black.

537
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: Both my parents black, you know what I mean. My

538
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: mother's half and half you know what I mean, But

539
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: both my parents black. Yeah, so I'm black, Like, no,

540
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: you're not.

541
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: You're not? Are black? All right, nigga, let's fight.

542
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: It's right, it's right right right in my house, we

543
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: was taught to get off first. Yeah, I bet, oh,

544
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: start to get I'm the youngest in our house, you

545
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

546
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: So I know I can't beat them, but I can

547
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: beat y'all.

548
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: For sure. I fight niggas that's five years older than me.

549
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Every day. I'm whooping any nigga in my age group.

550
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: I want it.

551
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

552
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: Actually, I need to fight because I got beat up

553
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: by them. So I gotta fight y'all to get mine

554
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: off now rebuild my confidence. But but yeah, bro, so

555
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: we would be traveling in all these places. I'm like, man,

556
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm not telling nobody that's my name.

557
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?

558
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: And you know, just growing up in the environment that

559
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: we were in too though, Just nah right now, Valentine,

560
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: nah champ Nah, you weren't gonna you was never gonna

561
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: know what the vista for. You know what I mean so,

562
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, the homies like, what's what's your

563
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: full name?

564
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: He said, wait, Valentine is your middle name?

565
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: And he got excited, like, Nigga's the holy ship I

566
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: ever heard in my life.

567
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Nigga look at.

568
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: You like, well, I tell this nigga about it, and

569
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 2: and that's and that's what the demo. So that's what

570
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: was I remember it was. It was a CD written

571
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: in red that said Valentine.

572
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I would check it out burnt.

573
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: CD sure read with red market that said Valentine, and

574
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: that ship. Every label that that you can think of

575
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: was trying to sign that kid.

576
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: Right, because that's also part of the music industry, like

577
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: who's this person that's talented that people have heard of

578
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: that can also work, you know, in your best interest.

579
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: And I think it was it was the time had

580
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: passed for sure, I mean, and and the reason why

581
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: they knew who I still was because I would say

582
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: my name, Yeah, I find to said my name. Ain't

583
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: no Instagram, ain't no social media, ain't no Google.

584
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

585
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: So it wasn't it wasn't any of those type of things.

586
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: So they just seen a CD that said Valentine and

587
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: didn't they listened to the music. They're just not putting

588
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: too and two together. So yeah, Like I went on

589
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: the the whole bidding war Wow tour, meeting with multiple labels.

590
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: I took the wrong deal?

591
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: Did you they got you? What was it? Was it

592
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: the advance?

593
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: Like what is always different?

594
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: Advanced because you was on the floors, on the floor.

595
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: That's a matter of the leverage versus the your reality.

596
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: It creates a power dynamic where you can't see clearly.

597
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: What I realized now is I shouldn't have signed to

598
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: an East Coast label.

599
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: M Yeah, for me, for sure.

600
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: I just for me, for me, I just it didn't

601
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: make sense for me for that the label to be

602
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: on the other side of the country, and I had

603
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to sign and I mean in the Scope was one.

604
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Of the and they were in l A. Yeah.

605
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: But I mean I remember going to Jimmy Ivian's house.

606
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: What's what's uh? What's bruh name that was in both

607
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: finger Steve Martin. Nah, he was like a super superstar,

608
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 2: uh music industry. No, no, no, he was an actor. I'm

609
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: gonna think of his name, but I just remember he

610
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: was over there. He had the biggest fucking head I

611
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life in person.

612
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: Warren Betty Warren Beatty, Yeah, walks.

613
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Out and the nigga's head is like this big, and

614
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, this is no lie. I'm like,

615
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: maybe you just gotta have a big ass head to

616
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: be like a leading man or a superstar like these.

617
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Niggas they're not maybe don't look human.

618
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: This nigga's head was like this big, bro, and he

619
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: had like twenty ass hair and ship and he's walking out.

620
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that's such and such. I

621
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: forgot what other movie was in when I was a kid.

622
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in a lot of stuff.

623
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Like, man, nice to meet you, like you mean with Jimmy,

624
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: He's like, good luck, sh it's cool.

625
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: You met with Jimmy ivean.

626
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Straight up at eighteen eighteen.

627
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: Bro's insane.

628
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: And then to come back and do like multiple deals

629
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: with Jimmy. Wow.

630
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: I did the Lover RNs deal, which was up Jimmy.

631
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I did the Chief Keep deal with Jimmy, which you

632
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: know Larry Jackson brought through both of those. Shout to

633
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: Larry on Scamma. We grew up together in the Bay

634
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: First go together and yeah, end up doing multiple deals

635
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 2: with him. Ship took when he was doing beats by

636
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Dre took Matt Kemp to him and.

637
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: Kimp ain't even in the music industry.

638
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Man.

639
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: You know that's the thing about you, Jay Valenci. You

640
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: never really know who Jay vallon time.

641
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: No, you never know.

642
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: You never know that kimp I got a ganga homies.

643
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Man. He was a dodger, the dodger and he was cracking.

644
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He had some years where he was

645
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: and he started the beach deal man.

646
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: They put my they put my boy on the fucking Times.

647
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: Square, Big building Beats.

648
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: Was like like literally, I'm sitting with Jimmy and Larry

649
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: and in the backyard randomly going over some music Ship

650
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: and the like.

651
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: It's like, Jay, isn't that your friend?

652
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 3: He really do sound like Larry talk.

653
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: Larry talks right, So he's like, man, you shoot ship buddy, right?

654
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Should he wear beats?

655
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: Like?

656
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Should I call him wow? Sing? I know this niggas

657
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: the face of beats for a minute.

658
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: So you just like you're kind of like Worldwide West.

659
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: I just beat him in space, see what I'm saying.

660
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: But I also keep it real.

661
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: He did.

662
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: He won a game too, so we're running one right now.

663
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: You didn't have to say that, no, no, but I

664
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: have to be I'm a real one.

665
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: You are real. I come from a different place.

666
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: So let me talk about being real in this in

667
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: this industry. Right, there was a time where you were

668
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: selling that stuff. It's close to the water.

669
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: Stuff.

670
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't good though. I wasn't good. Wasn't I wasn't good.

671
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't good. I got too much of a conscience.

672
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get too much of a conscience. And

673
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: that's why I have made money in business. But I'm

674
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: not wealthy because I have too much of a conscience.

675
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: That makes sense, Yeah, because you really kind.

676
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: Of because behind every fortune, yeah is a crime.

677
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: M that's a bar.

678
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who wrote it. Maybe one of the

679
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: niggas rights from the hood. I don't know.

680
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: You really got it. That makes a lot of sense

681
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: because you really gotta be.

682
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I would be so wealthy, no, no, no, wealthy beyond.

683
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: If you had no conscience?

684
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: Was a nigga really not about even conscious? If I

685
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: was a fuck nigga, I would be so wealthy.

686
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: But because of that, you're rich though, and I don't mean.

687
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Rich like, Yes, I'm wealthy in life.

688
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: For sure, which to me is the only true way.

689
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I have a great family, you know what I mean?

690
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: My kids are amazing. I like them.

691
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: Everybody don't like their kids.

692
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: They might love them, right, I love and like like,

693
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: my kids are great. You know what I'm saying.

694
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm going through hell right now because my son is

695
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: graduating next week.

696
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: My son graduates in like two weeks.

697
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: He's going three thousand miles away to college to LA.

698
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: He's gonna be in LA. Yeah, he might as well

699
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: be three thousand lolls away because he's moving out. I

700
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: can lose it.

701
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I'm acting like I'm not.

702
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to your room and it's gonna be dark.

703
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you mean?

704
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: I might get rid of the house, bro, I would

705
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: rather I was just living in a place where I don't

706
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: got the memories with you.

707
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: Your room is across from mine. I go bother you

708
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: you gone. But I like that, though, Jay, because I

709
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: feel like it is one very true. Some people don't

710
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: have that soul conscious it's just money. I don't care.

711
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna see you again. If I do see you,

712
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do and you know, ric Away was

713
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: like that. Rico Way was like, mane, I just don't

714
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: want to do people like that, Like I could be

715
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: rich beyond my mean, but I would have to do

716
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: people wrong, and that's just not me. You sleep better

717
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: at night, bro, That's why I be the bed at nine,

718
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: because nobody's trying to hit me in the hand.

719
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: Of the brick. Say, machine gun is close too though.

720
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: That's where I also sleep really well, you know, cause

721
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: niggas be thinking they could go in people houses and

722
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: ship they just know.

723
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: So what made you decide I'm done with that lifestyle?

724
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Was it like I just don't want to be a

725
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: part of this. I can't do it?

726
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Or man music more.

727
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Some got caught in the mail got caught in the

728
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: mail man and we were sick. We was sick. I

729
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: ain't gonna say who we was. Some got some got

730
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: caught up, man. I'm just like that's the sign. Yeah,

731
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: it's a sign, man, Like what are you doing? You're

732
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: talented for sure?

733
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: For sure?

734
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: Like this is this is last resources ship? Really is

735
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: it's last resourceship?

736
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Bro?

737
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: When you're risking your your your livelihood, your your life,

738
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: your freedom, if you if you're doing it for sport.

739
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: You're sick nigga, if you know what I.

740
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: Mean, Like, I love a game man out of here

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: with that bullshit.

742
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: Fun out of here with that.

743
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: Like nigga niggas be sick bro, No, bro, Like I'm

744
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: really from something different.

745
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I know.

746
00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm watching my folks nigga stomach hurting, hoping that at

747
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: the pack land or go there.

748
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Like stress, bro, that's why the hood be looking so.

749
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: Old, Yeah, because the thing is the better.

750
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Like you're twelve.

751
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: I could have swore he was twenty seven. They could

752
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: be stressed out for sure, stressed.

753
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I told her. I told her. I told the story. Man.

754
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm probably throwing off your whole ship.

755
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: I'm having my life, which is all I really care

756
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: about in this PODCT.

757
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: I can tell this story because my cousin popped up

758
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: on my Instagram live. I was just talking shit one

759
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: day and you know he won them once, right, and

760
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh this nigga Instagram street niggas an Instagram right,

761
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: he pop up and you know I know his tag

762
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: on there. I'm like, comes, oh right, it just made

763
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: me start thinking the ship and I'm like, damn, so

764
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: after we lose our deal.

765
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: We moved back to the projects.

766
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: My daddy in affairs, my brother, my brother had gotten killed,

767
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: and we moved back literally to the projects. We're sharing

768
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: a project apartment building unit with my aunt and her

769
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: two kids.

770
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: Wow. It's my mom and her three kids. Wow.

771
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: We're sharing the three bedroom. My mom and her sister,

772
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: her little sister sharing a room, my sister, my big sister,

773
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: and my little cousin sharing the.

774
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Girl room and all. And then me, my brother and

775
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: my cousin sharing a room. Yeah right.

776
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: My brother he was he was seventeen at the time.

777
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: He was like listening, I'm out right finding some girls

778
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: to go stay at their house that he also has

779
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: eight kids now, but you know, he was like, listen,

780
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: I ain't standing here.

781
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I ain't going from sugar to shit for me. I'm like,

782
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: all right, this is where I'm at. Right.

783
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: So my cousin has time was hustling. I'm I just

784
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: turned twelve. He's thirteen. He already off the porch. He

785
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: already hustling.

786
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

787
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: And he had this little weed business going on. And

788
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: he used to have all the shoes. I know, you

789
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: love shoes for sure, right, I respect.

790
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: The ones you go on, you know, they dirty.

791
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they're not a subtle flex either. Those are

792
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: like mine or a subtle flex yeah mine.

793
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: I want you, I want you yeah yeah, I usually

794
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: do this some people know.

795
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so then I gotta do this there yeah

796
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: and shut the back of that. Yeah yeah right, So he's.

797
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: Not regular, right right.

798
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: So but my cousin, he just he had a gang

799
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: of shoes and ship. He's every Jordan, every like Nigga

800
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: the bo Jackson's day. He got to think, I just

801
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: came from l A, having a record deal, being on

802
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: TV and ship, and I got nothing left.

803
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: But whatever I had right in the bike, I got,

804
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

805
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: So my cousin is, uh, yeah, y'all edit that shit

806
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: because niggas getting weird.

807
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: If if y'all don't, I will find you right now.

808
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, my cousin has all the shoes. Yeah, I'm

809
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: watching him. I'm watching I'm washing.

810
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Bag up in our room, up the little bagg is weed,

811
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, going to hustling.

812
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: So he started to get all the ship. I don't

813
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: want it. I don't want to.

814
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: It's like the Green Goblins.

815
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: But I always like to gamble, like to this day,

816
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: I still gamble all right, all right, so I'd be

817
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: like the littlest nigga at the dice game.

818
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: I was like a baby, right, So imagine if at twelve,

819
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: how for sure how young I looked? Right.

820
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: So I'm out there hustling, shooting dice. But you know

821
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: you when you lose, I got to really get some money.

822
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: I gotta get miss my mind at twelve money man

823
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: literally playing with toys at that time, was no toys

824
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: in our house.

825
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: I gotta get off.

826
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: I gotta get this money, right, So.

827
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 2: I hitting the dice game. I hit for likee hundred,

828
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: for like five hundred in the dice game. I go

829
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: right to the projects up the streets. Let to tell

830
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: you where I'm living. The project around the corner is

831
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: called Death Valley. Wow, got to just tell you everything

832
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: you need to know. That's that was our name for it,

833
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: right right. Like I lived in the in the BA

834
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: the Banneker Homes. Death Valley, Hayes Valley was right up

835
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: the street around the corner. Go to I go to

836
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Death Valley. I go buy a fifty shot, which everybody

837
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: knows is a fifty shot of crack. It's a long

838
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: time ago, right, it's like a big it's like a

839
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: big rocker crack right right. So in my mind with

840
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: the fifty I could turn that into chop it down.

841
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Make about now. No, we're not stepping on nothing right

842
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: because me, I need mine to be right. In my mind,

843
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a king pin. I'm like, we go,

844
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: I want to be a king pin. Right about the

845
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: fifty shot. Chop that up? They are selling it to

846
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: you at twelve and everything you can think of pistols

847
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: and the hood is the hood, bro.

848
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: Listen, it's crazy. Hood is the hood, bro.

849
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: And that's what people don't understand when they judge these kids.

850
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: That are there.

851
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: If you haven't truly experienced it, you don't know how

852
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: fast it's moving. You don't know the pressure that these

853
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: little kids are under to take care of their household.

854
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I was bullshit because I didn't take her to the household.

855
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: I just want to shoot some shit, right, very honest.

856
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm very I'm very honest about the life I've lived

857
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: and the things I've been a part of that I

858
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been a part of. But back to my

859
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: fifty shot, chop that down. Then I go buy an

860
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: ounce a week so I got weak man, man, I

861
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: got everything right, and I'm twelve. It's the weekend. It's

862
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: like Saturday morning. Like all right, I'm gonna go out

863
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: there like seven six seven in the morning. I'm gonna

864
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: try to catch the early knocks, the early dopings that's

865
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: outside that ain't gonna believe I'm six, right, so I

866
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: get out there. Bro, I've been out there. Maybe it's

867
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: probably about two pm.

868
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: I've made fifteen dollars. Oh my god, I've made fifteen dollars.

869
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Here comes my cousin, trust Spot, I mean handle Spot.

870
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: How do you try?

871
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: The niggas have customers already, but I'm trying to show

872
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: stop them. I'm trying to like run up on the

873
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: dose things when they pull up, get to them first,

874
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: and they let me get it off like the older

875
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: The older niggas let me get it off because of

876
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: my name and who I the family sure, so they

877
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: can't like in another scenario, you're getting whooped, you' getting your.

878
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: Everything, so your name is helpful in this area.

879
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: The super super he moved, however, wanted to move right

880
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: like it's like it's royalty, Like our last name is

881
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: royalty right from right because we solid guys, and you

882
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: know a lot of work didn't been put in. So

883
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm out there like eight hours. I ain't made no money.

884
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: I got fifteen dollars and a whole bunch of everything

885
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: in my coat and like a puff jacket like a starter,

886
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think it was like

887
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: a Charlotte Hornet starter. So it's right, one of those.

888
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't even remember one of those, right, because you

889
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: remember how that pocketing you right?

890
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: Come for sure mindful of doult. So my cousin who

891
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: just happens to have an Instagram, now he comes on

892
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: the block and they're like, Jaye, what you're doing?

893
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: What you mean?

894
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I got to.

895
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: Offload there? I got it on me, Like give me that.

896
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: Granted he's three years older me, so he's fifteen. Wow,

897
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: he's already jugging though. Yeah, he got a block already.

898
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: He cracking And.

899
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I think he's just gonna do you

900
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's gonna take it from me, right,

901
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: it's my big guys.

902
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, no, He's like, man, just give

903
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: it to me.

904
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, man, he sold that ship

905
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: like five or ten minutes.

906
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Bro. So all of my work, gave me the money,

907
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: tell me, don't come back.

908
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: He's like, make oh, the Boys Club, the Poice Club, Bro, man,

909
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: go to the boys Club, go go do something like

910
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: bro get away from here. He's like, Bob gonna kill you.

911
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: Bob is my big brother, got it. He's like, Nigga,

912
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: Bob's gonna kill you.

913
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because Bob had already put a

914
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: hit out on me.

915
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Do all the street niggas, because all the street niggas

916
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: loved him, right, because they knew Bib Bible's always been Yeah,

917
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Bobby Outside outside, Bobby Outside, always been a singer, always

918
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: been about singing, yeah and women, and then.

919
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: That was his life. He's made now, but that was

920
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: his life.

921
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: So he was never you know, it was just our

922
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: brother who was also his twin, who was more on

923
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: the other side of who That's what passed away before

924
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: we got back home.

925
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: And my brother Ronnie and yeah, so like nigga used

926
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: to chase me off the block.

927
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: That's because they like Bob. They like Bob said, but

928
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: for real, though, what would God?

929
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: It was an og named Black Howie. Shout out Black

930
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Howie man, that's my guy. He was the fastest nigga

931
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: I have ever seen in my life. I would think

932
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: that I was away and he would just pop up,

933
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: like I would see him and run and then you know,

934
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: like what's the cartoon with the road runner would meet

935
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: me at the spot I thought I was going to

936
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: all the way around the corner and.

937
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: Be like, you know, by I said, you got to

938
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: get out of here. Wow.

939
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Come to find out years later, I guess he was

940
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: like a track star for really yeah, like ran track

941
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: in college, like really like did his ship, Like Howie

942
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: was a good dude.

943
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Ed is a good dude.

944
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: Help keep me off the block though, I'm that's dope though,

945
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Like in the oh Man, so many people that saved me,

946
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: literally many people that would need.

947
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: You don't need to do this, bro, If this is

948
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: all you got, okay, but you don't need to.

949
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

950
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: I'm like twelve thirteen smoke weed for the first time.

951
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Not small, I don't even I don't even like drugs

952
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: at all. But I'm in the car with my cousins

953
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: and the homies and a stolen car smoking weed and

954
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: Jodis he comes on and I start singing, Oh, I

955
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: know they were like nigga. They told me I couldn't

956
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: smoke with him no more.

957
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: They wasn't letting you.

958
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: Do no no, no, bro. And imagine that there, man, funk,

959
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say names. This is years ago. It was

960
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: just weak uh.

961
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: Me my cousin dudar Uh the homie Eggy you know

962
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: that's a hood name in Manny Pool and me Valentine

963
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: and I start singing, and it's like they stopped. Everybody

964
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: stops the like, and they had already known, you know

965
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: what I mean obviously, like we were still even I'm

966
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: living in the projects, we were still kind of have

967
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: like star residue on us too, from being on TV.

968
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: I got to fight niggas over that. He was on

969
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: Soul Train six months ago, softening ah as soon as

970
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: I hit her, Yeah, you're getting fired off right. So

971
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: and I'm with the three that I named is in it,

972
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And they like, Bro, you can't,

973
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: you can't.

974
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: You can't do this.

975
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: You can't smoke with us no more. You can't be

976
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: in the car, you can't none of this, man, y'all tripping.

977
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: What I didn't realize is they just saw something different

978
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: than me. They saw where my life was going to go.

979
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: As they say, God putting it on their heart, whatever

980
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: that was, God put.

981
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: It on my heart. Just start singing because I had

982
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: stopped real I wouldn't sing at all.

983
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 3: Hey guys, taking a quick commercial break, We'll be right back,

984
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: or you're trying not to be a part of the

985
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: industry at all.

986
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: I wanted nothing to do with his Wow is Everything

987
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: that I connected to music at that time was all negative.

988
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 2: I lost my brother, my father, went back to jail,

989
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: we lost our record deal. I'm back in the projects.

990
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: It brought you nothing but pain, So I'm like, I

991
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: don't fuck music, singing, funk, all of it, you know

992
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: what I mean.

993
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: So from me, it just really put me in a

994
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: space where it just wasn't something that I was going

995
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: for after But I guess the weed brought brought the

996
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: vocals out of something I don't know, bro, And it

997
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: was during my voice change. That's why still if you

998
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: hear me talk, I still have like a rasp in

999
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: my voice. And I think it's because I didn't sing

1000
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: through the whole time. I didn't because you're suposed to

1001
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: sing through your vocal your voice change.

1002
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know if you're.

1003
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: Supposed to you're supposed to you're supposed to, supposed to

1004
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: keep singing because it's just it helps you just the muscle.

1005
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: God, it helps.

1006
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: It helps the muscle, and it helps keep the muscle strong.

1007
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: And you know when kids are going through their voice,

1008
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: their voice change, it's just it's bad.

1009
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I had like a really really high voice.

1010
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: So and I think I smoked a little weed during

1011
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: that time and I might have some of that on

1012
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: my vocal cords because I don't. I don't do ship

1013
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: and I ain't. I don't know, I'm don't. I don't

1014
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: really drink. I don't do no drugs. I mean like,

1015
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, I come from it.

1016
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sure. So it's like I've seen the

1017
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: effects on all sides.

1018
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, because you you you've

1019
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: done enough in your career too. I don't want to

1020
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: say retired, but you've you've hung your name in the

1021
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: raptors in multiple areas. If the next five or ten

1022
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: years goes the way you want, what does that look like?

1023
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: If you even have a have a thought, or you're

1024
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: just like I always make my way slick clark, slick Clark,

1025
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: what does that mean?

1026
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: You know?

1027
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: It was a white nigga named Dick Clark, right, that

1028
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: ran media, that's what you want to be. I'm slick Clock, Yeah,

1029
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm him. I'm coming from.

1030
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: It right, I want it. I want it. What you

1031
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: said church speaking too, existence.

1032
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: Speak those things that are not that are not what

1033
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: assage is that scified between genesism, revelations, just you even

1034
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: knowing that it's great.

1035
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't.

1036
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: I see me in five or ten years doing the

1037
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: countdown that times square nine eight, right.

1038
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't see why you couldn't me neither.

1039
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: Everybody knows Jay Valentine in some way, so fast everybody Valentine.

1040
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: And my name good for sure. I mean so for me,

1041
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like.

1042
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: My whole my whole purpose at this point is just

1043
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: to figure out how to get in the space, because

1044
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: once I get into space, they go rock with me.

1045
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: I do good business, you know what I'm saying. I

1046
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: don't see I don't see why not. I don't even

1047
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: you know I still got all my hair. I'm sorry, bro,

1048
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1049
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: Anti baldness about me. You gotta have your foot in

1050
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: the door when you have the rock. If he start

1051
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: off ball couldn't be rock. He start off with hair

1052
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: and you can lose it.

1053
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: He start with that little yeah you gotta be I

1054
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: forgot about that rock he had. He was receiving like crazy,

1055
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: but he had something. But he had something, but he

1056
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: had the ball. He's like, oh day, this is crazy.

1057
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: You know tyreeche wasn't even bald.

1058
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: He didn't have to be bad.

1059
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: No, he didn't.

1060
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: He had a HAIRSI people knew underneath that ball, you

1061
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 3: ain't really bad.

1062
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: Nah, Tyree, skin grow.

1063
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He balled by choice, that's.

1064
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: Even by choices like sixteen.

1065
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: That's why when I found out could grow hair, I

1066
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: was like, what Mayweather didn't have no reason being balved,

1067
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: But you start ball. I don't want you all on

1068
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: the times square.

1069
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: So you got a hair he give me the time

1070
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: square your hairline fast, you ain't receiving or nothing.

1071
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: I would have to go to Turkey.

1072
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Two haircuts a week. Really, I don't play no games.

1073
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: If you, for whatever reason, don't know who Jay Valentine,

1074
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't know how. If you black and you on

1075
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: the timeline, I don't know how you don't.

1076
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: Control on the timeline for people I love and respect for.

1077
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't bother nobody.

1078
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't know which is.

1079
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: I don't bother nobody. If I bother you, you know

1080
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm bothering you. I didn't know what he meant. I

1081
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: just know I don't want to find out. I re

1082
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: looked at that tweet day I said helped me settle

1083
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: the debate, but I didn't make it clear on which

1084
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: I was on.

1085
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: You didn't.

1086
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm done with debates.

1087
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: No you're not.

1088
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: It's a great time. It's a good time and for

1089
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: the and for the people that I can save you from.

1090
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: I will.

1091
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: They gonna have me with a mask on my head

1092
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: and be like, wait, wait before you I'm the phone

1093
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: and friend, I'm throwing it out. I go vouch for me.

1094
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 3: I'd be seeing him in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, y'all.

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00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: But if you don't know Ja val Jay Valentin, tell

1097
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: people where they can find you. What you're working on,

1098
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: any of those things.

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00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: I am working on building out this multimedia platform. That's

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00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: something that's very important to me. I think that we

1101
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: need to be in more of these spaces and it

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00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: needs to be positive for me for sure. Listen, I'm

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: not judging what anyone else's It's just some things aren't

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: for me, and instead of complaining about it, which a

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00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: lot of times we tend to do, I say, how

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: do I create the alternative? Yeah, and I'm willing And

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: I think that you brought up kind of us being

1108
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: the gold standard Tank and I with Army Money Podcast.

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 2: I think it's it's worked for us because we've moved

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00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: when intention and the intention was to not be fuck

1111
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: niggas one because we're not and that's not how we

1112
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: operate in life. But also to put out positivity, to

1113
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: give flowers, to give you know, a light to some

1114
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: people that it may be them for right, which is

1115
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: because because especially in music, where you know, it's a

1116
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately? Type of thing.

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00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: So you know, if there are certain artists who have

1118
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: come up to us before or after and been like, yo,

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00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: I hadn't done an interview in twenty five years, wow,

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: or longer, even though they maybe they still may be touring,

1121
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: they still maybe get money the whole thing, but as

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00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: far as somebody wanting to actually talk to them, that's

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00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: crazy instead of.

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00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Them just being a performer.

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like, wow, this is actually great

1126
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: that we've had the opportunity to.

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: Be that music can hide people and they people take

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00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: credit for stuff they didn't do, and the person who

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00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: actually did it you never know, Like I've learned so

1130
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: much about who wrote what, who dine.

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00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: And that's and that's the thing. It's just for them

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00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: to tell their story. Like we don't.

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00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: We don't get involved in you know, because I've had

1134
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls too, are like now you know,

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: I really and I'm like, for sure, okay, that's cool,

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: right right, and I want to come tell I'll say,

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00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: but you know, you can come tell it, but not

1138
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: in a not in a disparaging way. I don't want

1139
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: nobody taking shots at people, you know, via our platform.

1140
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: So but I think we've been able to do that

1141
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: because we also didn't get into the media space or

1142
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: the podcasting space, as they say, which we think we're

1143
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: a show even though it's called the Art of the Podcast.

1144
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: We feel like a show that right. We didn't get

1145
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: into it to make money. It's really a cultural play

1146
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: for us.

1147
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: And you can tell that.

1148
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: Labor love music absolutely, and so.

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00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: We haven't had to do anything for views our clicks

1150
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: and I still don't so and people be like, you know,

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: I've seen certain artists or executives and be like, oh man,

1152
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: you know, I know, you know, if I come on

1153
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: there to the views, ain't gonna be crazy.

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even I don't care.

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: Right, I care, right, right right, you know what I mean? Like,

1156
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: and that's cool, you know what I mean. And maybe

1157
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: do they want to re up? They want to re up,

1158
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But if they didn't, that's

1159
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: fine with me because that.

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00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Is not the purpose.

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: The purpose is to get the message out and to

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00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: like I said, to shine that light. So I think

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: with us being able to do it and it not

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: being about money, we've been able to come from a

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: more pure place.

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: Integrity is there, Yeah, Integrity and authenticity is there. And

1167
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: people can smell when you just want to gotcha moment

1168
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: and then you want to clip them like y'all never

1169
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: do people like nah, Well, the things that go viral

1170
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: that I seen is almost always I had no idea

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: about that, yeah, or you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's never like we're not looking for that. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: If somebody tells their story and it's something in there

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: that's like, oh shit, you know, I'll let them tell

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: the story. But I also have conversations with our guests

1176
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: and say, hey, you.

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00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: Know you sure you want that in there, right, And

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: that's that goes a long way, you know what I mean,

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00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: because most people be like, I'm so.

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: I've had calls or someone be like, yo, I may

1181
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: have said this this way, and I'll be like, oh,

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: let me watch it. I'm gonna send it to you

1183
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: and it was cool, or yeah, can you take that

1184
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: out for me?

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01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got you.

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even though you know that might get you.

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: Man there there we have maybe you know, it's a

1188
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: few vault episodes that are never coming out for sure.

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01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that that we that we

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: filmed with people and it you know, it didn't show

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01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: them in the greatest light.

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01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: And that's why your name is good.

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01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: I have no intention, bro of throwing nobody under the bus.

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, the funniest part is maybe I ain't saying

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: no names that people be like, oh, that's kind of.

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01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Messy, But we're not saying nobody. Nobody saying anybody's names.

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01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: And I've even had people call me and be like, yo,

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01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: can you you know take that out right? Cool? Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all it's all good. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not tripping, bro, it's it's it's not. That's not

1201
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: that's not my purpose in this thing. But yeah, to

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01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: to really build this multimedia company, to you know, shine

1203
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: light on more talent. Yeah, for sure, you know I

1204
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: got some. This is an announcement that I'm going to

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01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: make pretty soon. Yeah, yeah, I have a I have

1206
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: a have a pretty big announcement that I'm going to

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: make in the in the space that.

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Speaker 1: It's going to shock and not shocked people. Oh, nigga,

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01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: So but yeah, and obviously you know taking I still

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: have r B Money, the label which you know Tank

1212
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: is signed to. We have a our partnership with BMG.

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01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: You know he just had another number one shoutout Tank.

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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, come on, y'all.

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: Control He said, what, I love Turtle. Next, but I

1216
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 3: got to let it cool the streets. It's hot right now.

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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's getting hot, to.

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01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: Getting real hot.

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01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm a mock turtle guy.

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01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, mock turtle.

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I respected you know we're here. Yeah, it's too hot,

1223
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: made it too hot for street ladies and gentlemen. Jay

1224
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 3: Valentine followed him, follow Army Money podcast. It's a great podcast.

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01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: It's a good time.

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: If not you you're.

1228
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Wasting your life. I don't agree you're wasting there's a

1229
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: lot of gym. You have a good time. But literally

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: followed j Valentine.

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: Very fun I'm definitely giving out free game, free.

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01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: Game on the music industry. Also very funny in the comments.

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01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: If he's trolling you, you will laugh before you be offended.

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Speaker 1: My new favorite person's page is Davante West. He is

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01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: the bad no bro. He's great.

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 3: Davante West is great. He's climbing the ranks of my

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01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: top creators. He's been killing.

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: Shut out to him and I don't know him. I

1239
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know him. I just want your love.

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: He's so funny. Man, he's been he been on a

1241
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: run lately.

1242
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: You said that.

1243
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, yeah, well you know I'm tapped in.

1244
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 3: That's my streets, that's my figure shows. What'sever in here?

1245
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: Don't want me.

1246
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: You don't want me to pull it out. This should

1247
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 3: be an enough. Once I go here, it better be over.

1248
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: You don't want me to pull it out.

1249
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: Like listen, I was just with my guy Isaiah Thomas.

1250
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: I asked it was you from Tacoma.

1251
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: He said, no, Leon Thomas, Isaiah Thomas, I'm not from

1252
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: his part of the coma.

1253
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: He from True Tacoba. I'm from Fort Lewis he from Tacoma.

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm really from Lakewood.

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: Really, I really messing with you. That's my guy from Tacoma. Three. Yeah, no,

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01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: ya is legend. That's why I was. I was messing

1257
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, no, no, no, no.

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 3: I got you to Tacoma.

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: I got you to tell the truth really from this side.

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01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: No, he like born and raised in Tacoma. I ain't

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: an grow up there dog. So yeah, all right, will

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: see you next week day. Valentine harn't b Bunny podcasts more.

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Speaker 3: This has been a Unanimous Media original. Not My Best

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts and Unanimous Media. It

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 3: was hosted by me Kevin Fredericks, Executive produced by Stephen Curry,

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: Eric Payton, and Charlotte Sumter Rigette. Co executive producer Kalina

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01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Maria Cutney. The executive producers of the iHeart Podcasts are

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Speaker 3: Sean Titne and Jason English. This series was produced by

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: Peter Calter and Jabari Davis. Co producer Kurt Redmond. A

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Speaker 3: special thanks to Stephen Curry and Will Pearson. Not My

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Speaker 3: Best Moment is a production of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcasts.

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