1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Take a Walk. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: What happens when two brothers from Nova Scotia trade the 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: quiet of small town life for the roar of stadium 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: crowds and the relentless pulse of the road. On Buzznight 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: and today on the Taken a Walk Podcast, we check 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: out the world of Colin and John Angus MacDonald, founding 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: members of The Trus, one of Canada's most electrifying rock bands. 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: From winning a radio contest that changed their lives overnight 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: to crafting gold records and penning anthems that have become 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: the soundtrack to a generation, Colin and John Angus have 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: never taken the easy path. Their journey is one of reinvention, resilience, 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: and a stubborn refusal to play it safe. A story 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: written not just in the studio, but on the road 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: and the chaos and camaraderie of life on tour. So 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: join us on this episode as we go beyond the 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: stage lights and into the stories, struggles and triumphs that 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: have shaped the truths. Whether you're a lifelong fan or 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: just discovering their music, get ready for a conversation as honest, dynamic, 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: and unpredictable as the band itself. 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: Taking a walk. 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: All right, John Angus McDonald and Colin McDonald from the 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: Trus Welcome to Taking a Walk, guys. 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: Hey, good to be here, man, Thank you. 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: So since we call this show taking a Walk, I 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: do have to ask you the opening question here, which is, 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: if you, gentlemen, could take a walk with someone living 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: or dead, who would that person be and maybe where 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: would you take a walk with him? 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: My answer is always going to be Bob Dylan, even 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: though you know, I'd be kind of scared of what 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: he might say because He's he could say something cryptic 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: and twisted, like I hope you don't blame music the 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: way you walk or something, and I wouldn't be able 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: to not think about that for the rest of my life. 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: And I just take him for a walk around Hamilton, Ontario, 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: and just see how many people notice that I'm walking 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: with Bob Dylan. 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 5: And since my answer was also going to be Bob Dylan, 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: I'm just going to throw it to the Canadian Bob 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 5: Dylan and say Neil Young, because I think he'd be 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: a really cool guy to have a chat with somewhere 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 5: in a field outside o Mimi's hometown in Ontario, And. 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: Just you know, I mean, what's not to talk about. 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: I'd love to hear what's on his mind at any moment. 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, two of my favorites. Thank you so much. We're 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: going to get into a lot here. We're going to 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: talk about the new music, the Bloody Light and of 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: course the Breakdown, which has going to number one as 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: we speak. So excited for you guys, But I do 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: want to ask you first. This band has gone through 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: some different evolution over time. There's been different different names 52 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: and different sort of directions. 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Can you share the. 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Story behind, first of all the name changes and how 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: you finally settled on the truths. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: Well as Monty Python fans growing up and still to 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: this day Python fans. We originally recalled One Eyed Trouser 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 4: Snake from the song from Meaning of Life, and then 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: we became one Eyed Trouser and then we shortened it 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: to Trouser. And we're originally from any nishe Nova, Scotia 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: on the east coast of Canada, and we decided to 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: leave our small town and move to Ontario to kind 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: of take a shot at making it in the Canadian 64 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: music industry. And we were about to release an EP 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: in two thousand and two with four songs on it. 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: We had gotten management by then and a producer, and 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 4: there was an acid jazz band out of Mississauga, which 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: is just outside of Toronto, Ontario, with the name Trouser, 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: and they sent us a cease in desist order, like 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: we didn't even have ten fans, and we let alone, 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: knowing what a cease and desist order was for using 72 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: a name, and so it seemed a little bit dramatic 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: to us at the time. But then we had to 74 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: change our name in twenty four hours and our bass 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: player's mom are Basic player Jackman called us and said, 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: you know, you can call yourselves the Truths because that 77 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: means the same thing as Trousers and Trouser. And we're like, okay, 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: And we weren't thinking like this will be our name 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: for the next twenty five years. I mean, when you're young, 80 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: you think, oh, I hope this lasts another summer. And 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: so we called ourselves the Trus and then we started 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: getting hit singles, and that's the name. 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I love that story. 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I love I love how things are meant to be. 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's an example, right. 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: So I know a little bit about Nova Scotia, and 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: what I know about Nova Scotia is. I had a 88 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: fourth grade teacher by the name of Lilla Sterling, and 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: she was most known for writing a book called Pipe 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Organ in the Parlor. But so I learned a little 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: bit about Nova Scotia through her and through her writing. 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: Tell me more about Nova Scotia and how it shaped 93 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: your musical identity and approach. 94 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's not a big place, you know, it's 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: got I think it's got about a million people in 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: it now, so it had less than that when we 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 5: were growing up in the eighties, and we're like many 98 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 5: generations into being Nova Scotians, like our grandparents and their 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: parents and their parents were all Nova Scotians. And the 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: music culturally is very influenced by like trad music, like 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: a traditional Celtic jig and real fiddle music, fiddle and piano, fiddling, guitar, 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: tim whistle bagpipes. That was the sort of music of 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 5: the culture. But we were rock kids. We liked rock 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: and roll. But I think that the thing that seeped 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 5: in was the very communal element of music down there 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 5: where music was meant to be enjoyed in the kitchen 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: or in the living room in a circle. Nobody's performing 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 5: and being and nobody's the audience. It's all one and 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 5: the same. And you know, some people would pass the 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 5: guitar to the right, and the fiddle will get passed 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: to their right, and the tim whistle will get passed, 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 5: and then somebody be sitting at the piano and somebody 113 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 5: would scooch them out of the way. And it was 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: a very communal experience music on the East Coast, and 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: so I think we took some of that forward with us. 116 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 5: And also our grandmother was like a classically trained concert 117 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 5: pianist also played that Celtic style of piano. So music 118 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: was always in our house and in our home, and 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 5: my dad was an amateur kind of folk artist, and 120 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: our folk musician, you know, aimed to be that in 121 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: his youth. And so music which is always in us 122 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 5: around us, and I think Nova Scotia was a big 123 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: part of that. 124 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: So was there ever a Plan B for you guys 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: or was this always Plan A and no plan B? 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: It was it was always plan A. We when we 127 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: started playing, and like we grew up, we started out 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: in a very small town called Anti guin Ish, which 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: is our where we were born. And even though we 130 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 4: jenagis and I moved away a bunch when we were younger. 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: We kind of came back there in the in the 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: mid nineties and we started the band and kind of 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: got instantly popular amongst the kids in town. Like we 134 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: could sell out bars when we weren't even old enough 135 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: to be in the bars. We have to get permission 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: slips and have our parents come in. So it was 137 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: a tremendous uh buzz for us, like right away to 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: be this cover band. We were all young, and all 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: the kids were trying to sneak into the bar, and 140 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: even the adults would come in because we were playing 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: like kind of classic rock covers. So we always kind 142 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: of felt like, oh, we're in a successful band right 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: out of the gates because because everybody in town was 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: coming to see us. So I think when that started 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: to hit us, we were like, we're doing this. We 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: got to keep doing this. So I think it was 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: always planning. 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: And there had to have been a first concert of 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: some type that truly impacted you, whether it be from 150 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: somebody that was you know, one of your neighbors playing, 151 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: or whether it was a national act. 152 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about. 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: That it was the for I think for me probably 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: for Janinas two. We went to see the Tragically Hip, 155 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: you know, Canada's greatest band or one of the greatest 156 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: bands in the world, and we saw them on their 157 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight Phantom Powered tour at the Halifax Arena 158 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: which was called what was it called back Metro Center 159 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: Metro Center used to be now it's called like a 160 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: Scotia Bank thing. But we went to see that show 161 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: and they came out and they were mind blowingly incredible, 162 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: and I was just like, this is this is it? 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: And and the thing is because we're in like a 164 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: rural part at Canada, Antiginish is very small. It's like 165 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: a two hour drive to the city, which is Halifax, 166 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: and so we didn't get a lot of big national 167 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: acts or international acts coming around. We just didn't. But 168 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: going to see the Hip because they would always come 169 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: to the East Coast on every album tour. I mean, 170 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: that had a really big impact on us. We're just like, 171 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: this is They're just extraordinary. 172 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: And they played a key role in later in your 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: in your career in terms of sort of you know, 174 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: mentoring and helping you through things right very much. 175 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: So, I mean we always looked up to them. We 176 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: loved their approach, We loved their ethos, loved their music, 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: loved their They were great live band, they were road warriors, 178 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: and they wrote great songs. They didn't seem to be 179 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: too you know, like egotistical, and you know it was 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: I hate to say, like very Canadian, but kind of 181 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: very Canadian, and that would like be really good, you know, 182 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: don't be too much of a jackass. Do your show 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: be great and and uh and then later on we 184 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: ended up because we started having success of our own, 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: we ended up on some bills with them, and we 186 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: ended up getting a record produced by their bass player, Gords, 187 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: and Clay was still a really good friend to the 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: band and ended up doing a bunch of more shows 189 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: with them and becoming really close. And they were always 190 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: like these really really really cool older brothers that were 191 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 4: always going to be better than us. But we just 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: loved them and respected them so much that we were 193 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: always like they were just a great well we got 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: to keep aiming high to even just try to catch 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: up with these guys, and and that's they were always 196 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: that kind of that north star for us. 197 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: And have you guys in turn paid it forward and 198 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: returned that to some folks that you've been mentoring. 199 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: Especially jam Hangus. 200 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 5: You want to take that, I think, so, yeah, Like, 201 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've heard of a band called 202 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 5: the Glorious Suns, But when I first started branching out 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: and producing other artists, they were pretty much the second artist, 204 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 5: a second band that I sort of took a stab 205 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: at producing, and they went on to have tremendous success 206 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: even with some of the stuff that I that I 207 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 5: had worked on. And they were really green when I 208 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: met them, as I said, like, you know, I'm interested 209 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: in producing. 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: You like that sounds great. What's the producer? 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: And I was like, you guys could really use a manager, 212 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 5: like what a managers do. So they're really still quite 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 5: green when I met them. But they had great songs, 214 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: and they had a great work ethic, and they had 215 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: a great spirit about them. And so we did a 216 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 5: couple of records together and took them out on tour 217 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 5: and then they very quickly were just off to the 218 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: races and having, you know, this amazing career of their own. 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: So uh, and there's been many many other examples you 220 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 5: know too, like that that's sort of the biggest one. 221 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 5: But uh, we've called both Colin and I've worked with 222 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: a lot of artists outside of our band, and you 223 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: just try to, you know, whether it be by trying 224 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: to write them the best song you think they need, 225 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: or to try to produce a good recording for them, 226 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 5: or just give them, you know, decent advice. You know, 227 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 5: it's sort of something we're always sort of mindful of. 228 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: Which is which is a perfect transition because the new album, 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: The Bloody Light was produced by B and Jay from 230 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: The Glorious Suns. Well talk about what they brought to 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: the process and how they pushed you guys creatively. 232 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: They're just getting they just get there getting back at 233 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: me for all those all that all that bullying back. 234 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: In the THEA. They brought excitement and they brought us 235 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: back to a place. It's almost like it felt like 236 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: our first record again. And they grew up fans of 237 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: the band, you know, and obviously they have a really 238 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: a long, illustrious history with Jenangis and it was an 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: interesting power dynamic because Janis was always their mentor producer 240 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: and now they're the guys in charge, and they definitely 241 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: pushed us to come up with our best material. I know, 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: I know, leading up to this record. It was a 243 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: long time. We went through a couple of different iterations 244 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: of producers and songwriting arrangements, and it was just it took. 245 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: It was just this record took a long time, and 246 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: I'm it all started to where we are now. It 247 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: started with a conversation between Jenangis and Brett in Toronto 248 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. Brett had heard all of our 249 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: demos and Brett's a very frank, honest, earnest guy, and 250 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: he just thought, you know, we weren't hitting it. It 251 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: wasn't there yet, and he just asked Jenis almost like 252 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: almost kind of sheepishly, if like, would you mind if 253 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: I produced just one true song? And we were at 254 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: a point where, you know, we were like, yeah, let's 255 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: let's do it. Let's just see what happens. And it 256 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: was the first song we did was the song of 257 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: the Bloody Light, and we were all like, Okay, this 258 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: is it, we know it, you know it. Let's let's 259 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: keep going. And then that led to the rest of 260 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: the record. They brought a real enthusiasm to it and 261 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: again they they have experienced our band from the outside 262 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: looking in, like they had been to our shows before. 263 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: They knew us. 264 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: They had been to our shows as fans, and then 265 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 5: we became fast friends, close friends, collaborators, and so, but 266 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: I think they still brought that like outside looking in 267 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 5: opinion of the band, like this is what I want 268 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: to hear when you guys take the stage. 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: You know, that was like the that was the real 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: valuable viewpoint. 271 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I think it's almost like they that classic. They call 272 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: it the beginner's mindset, having the fresh start approach with 273 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: someone's view, which you guys seem to take that quite 274 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: a bit. You'd like to shake it up and and 275 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: try different different things. 276 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: So is there a. 277 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: Typical songwriting process that you have and specifically for the 278 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: new music, what was the songwriting process that you used. 279 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: It's always been the same. It's like it starts with 280 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: little bits and pieces of tunes and like I'm pretty 281 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: much compulsive in my writing habits. All write every day, 282 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: and oftentimes it'll be something that I've come up with, 283 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: something that might be it's never finished. I always kind 284 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: of leave it open ended. I leave it because I 285 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: know that when I bring it to Jen Angus and Jack, 286 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: it's going to get better. And then when we bring 287 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: it to a producer plus that it's going to get better, 288 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: I kind of leave it open. And that's always kind 289 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: of been the way, and we have all because we've 290 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: been doing it so long, and I think the only 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: reason we want to keep doing it is to keep 292 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: it fresh and exciting for us. Otherwise it's like we 293 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: don't want to just be touring around as some band 294 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: that we want to keep it like vital for us, 295 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: and and I think that's always been the priority. So 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: when we get together with a really fruitful partnership, and 297 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: that's kind of happened on every one of our records, 298 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: we kind of just let we bring in our little 299 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: bits and pieces and then let that thing take over 300 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: and it becomes very cooperative and everybody's kind of throwing 301 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: in and then it leads to, in our case, the 302 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: best version of these songs. 303 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 304 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:34,119 Speaker 3: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 305 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: So take us further behind the scenes of this new music. 306 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask about one song in particular that 307 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: I really absolutely like, just to start off, the one 308 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: Don't Get Lost in the Dark. 309 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool. That was one that I 310 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: just had when I was working in on my sitting 311 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: on my couch one night and just strumming. I had 312 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: I had the lyric You're off Beaten Path, and I 313 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: had Don't Get Lost in the Dark, and I had 314 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: a couple of other ones, and we knew it was 315 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: good and we got together and started demoing it and 316 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: it was like kind of a slow Ballady halftime thing 317 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: and it was good, and you know, it wasn't like 318 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: jumping out of the speakers and then the glorious suns guys. 319 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: I mean, we must have sent Jay and Brett one 320 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: hundred songs demos, and that was one of the songs. 321 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: I remember Jay Brett's brothers said, I really like that, 322 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: but I think in me, I don't know whose idea 323 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: it was to bring it up to full time, but 324 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: that was definitely something that happened in the in the 325 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: pre production stage. And then when we did that, like, oh, 326 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: this is this rules now, this is good, you know, 327 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: and it was just about putting into full time. And 328 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: I remember Brett was like, I feel like I know 329 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: what you're talking about, but I want to know more 330 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: of what you're talking about. And that's it definitely made 331 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: the lyrics just closer to the then they were a 332 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: little bit further away, and then we brought them closer 333 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 4: and closer. And that's just up to like changing it 334 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: to like let me keep you close to what you've known, 335 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: like more conversational, more like you're talking right to the person. 336 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's one of my favorite songs. Who just 337 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 4: played it the other night at one of our shows, 338 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: and and I just I really enjoy it. Anything you 339 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: want to ADDE nine Oh No, I like that song 340 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: a lot. It's it's a different kind of song for us. 341 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: It's got unique production quality, and it's a great live song, 342 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 5: and any song with that, you know, BPM is a 343 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 5: good live song. 344 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm glad it made the. 345 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: Metamorphosis that it did because I think it would have 346 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 5: ended up on the cutting room floor otherwise because it 347 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 5: was just another pretty song and the Suns guys did 348 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 5: a few key things to really make it pop. 349 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: Do you tend to when you're taking these songs out 350 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: before an album release sort of feel like it's a 351 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: little bit of a focus group to see what stuff 352 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: is gaining, you know, immediate commers focus group, so like 353 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, you watch those those guys making TV shows 354 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: and movies and then they have to watch people watch 355 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: the movie like I don't get this and don't get that. 356 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 4: We don't really do that. We just go out and 357 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: play it live. And that's when you know, the audience 358 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: knows everything. They're not always right, but they know everything. 359 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: And fortunately with these new these new songs, like the 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: four we've released up in staples in the sets, so 361 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: we're like, thank you, but the audience will let you 362 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: know pretty quick. And we've definitely learned that over years. 363 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: I remember, like our second record, which you know, was 364 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: a big success and did really well, but there was 365 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: a lot of jams that didn't translate quite as well live. 366 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: And I remember feeling that on our second record, like, oh, 367 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: so this is what happens, Like they weren't and then 368 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: we just had to like kind of cut some out, 369 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: keep some in, rearrange things. It's it's it can't be press, 370 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: you know, it's like it and it's happening in front 371 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: of a lot of people. It's going down, and I 372 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: don't like seeing people walk to the bar, so I 373 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: want to keep them, you know what I mean. So yeah, 374 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: but we've gotten good at that and it's real and 375 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 4: sometimes they're not always right, like I was just reading 376 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: this thing on led Zeppelin. Like the first time they 377 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: played Stairway to Heaven, the people were like, mah whatever, 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 4: like Stairway to Heaven led Zeppelin. They'd just written Stairway 379 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: to Heaven and they played it for a crowd and 380 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: people were a little bit like play oh, I love 381 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: you know, so like I mean, it doesn't mean you 382 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: should stop making your great art or your art whatever 383 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: it is. It just it's it just can be very 384 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: it's it's always like the test. You go and play 385 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: it in front of people, and that's the focus group. 386 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: And more, you know, my wife Jenny has been listening 387 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: to our albums before they've come out, since our third record, 388 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: and she so I'll always play it for her and 389 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: she's always she she's not critical. She'd just be like, 390 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 5: that's my favorite. She'll always point out to one or 391 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 5: two that and she said those are my favorites. And 392 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: that's always interesting. And now now more and more with 393 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 5: my kids, you know who, like they'll be listening like, oh, 394 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: this is your new music, dad, cool, I like that one. 395 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: I don't like this one. 396 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: I like that one. You know that kind of thing. 397 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 5: So it's kind of funny and that like, we are 398 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: so involved in the process and we have all these 399 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: nuanced opinions of why should the bridge have been that long? 400 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: And maybe this isn't the wrong key and it's slightly 401 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: too fast, and all these nuanced opinions. 402 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: People are just I like it or I don't like it. 403 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: You know. 404 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: That's like that's about as much as they think about it, 405 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: and it's kind of we're in the business of this 406 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: is awesome or this sucks. 407 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: Well. 408 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Tell us about the other songs that are from the 409 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: new album that are being well received. 410 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: I mean, the Breakdowns our first time atop the rock 411 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: charts in quite a number of years. So we're very 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: happy with that. Since we wrote it and recorded it 413 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: with the Glorious Sounds two years ago, so that's been 414 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: in our set ever since, because that song is amazing 415 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: and everybody just absolutely loves it and Downtown again, which 416 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised because it's kind of a little 417 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: bit of a a little bit of a bop and 418 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: it's and people are really resonating with it. I just 419 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: in a live setting, I know that. And my girlfriend 420 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: like loves that song so much, but I had to 421 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: get her to stop playing it because I'm like, she 422 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 4: was playing it like fifteen times a day, and I 423 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 4: was like, Caroly, Carolyn is her name. I love that 424 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: you love this, but I can't listen to the Trews 425 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: all day while I'm also on tour with the Trews, 426 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So so it was one 427 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: of those things. But you know, in our live sets, 428 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: there's been no people walking to the bar during the new, 429 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: maybe unfamiliar songs, so I'll take that as a sign 430 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: of a good sign. 431 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: There's also the next one to be released is called Manifest. 432 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: It's coming next month, and that's we've also life tested 433 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 5: that quite a few times and it's it goes down well, yeah. 434 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: Oh I love I love that one as well. I 435 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: love everything that I've heard. It's so infectious and it 436 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: makes me want to see you guys live. 437 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: Are you down in Boston Boston area? Yah, We'll have 438 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: to let you know we're next time we're in Boston. 439 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: I'd love it. I'd absolutely I'd love it. 440 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you guys kind of 441 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: twist between you know, acoustic and you got the. 442 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: You know, the rock side. 443 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: I meanhow it's just is so diverse, but I want 444 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: to I want to close going back a bit to 445 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: the beginning of the interview. So if you guys were 446 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: to cover a Bob Dylan's song, what song would you cover? 447 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: And why? 448 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: Jokerman? We always cover Jokerman. That's my personal favorite Bob 449 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: Dylan song, even though he's been on record as to 450 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: say he doesn't like that songs that took him too 451 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: long to write it, and he's wrong. It's the best 452 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: song licensed to kill Infidel's record. I'd love to do 453 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: Visions of Johannah, but that would be like impossible. Yeah, 454 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: I mean I could. I could sit here forever. 455 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 5: And I mean, if I'm going to his classic period, 456 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 5: it's almost too many to like approximately Queen Jane anything 457 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: like that. 458 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: I mean, if we could make it as a buy 459 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: Dylan tribute band, I would just do that. And I 460 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: also when we saw him in Buffalo two years ago 461 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: or last year with Willie Nelson, Yeah, I can get 462 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 4: paid to just follow him around and tour and watch 463 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 4: his shows. Now, I just do that. 464 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: I mean, like there's also I mean, buzz I'm gonna 465 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: talk your ear off now, but there's like if you 466 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: see her say hello or You're gonna make me lonesome 467 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 5: when you go, or you know what, sugar Baby off 468 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: Love and Theft, or even Murder Most Foul, which was 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 5: like his last big single. 470 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: It's like a beautiful song. I mean, I Do, I Do, 471 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: I Do, no time, no time to think from Street 472 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: Legal like those songs, like there's every period. He's always genius. 473 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 5: You're you're from Boston, So what might explain our sound 474 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 5: is we're like Dylan nuts on the one hand, and 475 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: we love Aerosmith, So yeah, maybe that explains our band. 476 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, I think there's got to be some affection 477 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: that you guys have towards the band as well. 478 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: I have to think absolutely. 479 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we actually got to record with the late 480 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: great Garth Hutson. We did a song on a tribute 481 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: record for so Garth put together a tribute record for 482 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: the band with him playing with every band and it's 483 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: he's Neil young Is on that record. You're young too. 484 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 4: But the funny thing is, so we were in Tokyo, 485 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: Japan doing a band cover for the delegates that the 486 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: Canadian Embassy in Japan, and we were doing the weight 487 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 4: because that's like kind of a Canadian national anthem song 488 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: you know. And Garth Hudson's manager was there and he 489 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: filmed us and he goes, I want this band on 490 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: my upcoming Garth Hudson presents the songs of the band record. 491 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, great, he's gonna get us to do the weight. 492 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: He's like, Nope, because you were in Japan. I want 493 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 4: you guys to do our song Move to Japan. I'm like, okay, 494 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: whatever you say, whatever you want, will do it. But 495 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: it wasn't exactly the classic period of the band, you 496 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was fun, it was a 497 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: fun recorder. It was super fun, but it wasn't like 498 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: chess fever. Yeah, and it wasn't. It wasn't. Still I'm 499 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: still just happy to be there. I would have just 500 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: brought coffee for those sessions. I'm fine. But we ended 501 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: up doing Move to Japan because Garth had it in 502 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 4: his mind. I saw this bamber farming in Japan. Therefore 503 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: they're doing the song. 504 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: Oh that's wonderful. My god. 505 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a plug for the new Richard Manual 506 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: biography written by Steve Stephen t Lewis. 507 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Which is fabulous. 508 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: You'll is that out? 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