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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon. This episode number two d and

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Speaker 1: fifty four and today we are back with another episode

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Speaker 1: of Rut Radio in which we're hearing from hunters all

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Speaker 1: across the country on the latest with the White Tail Rut,

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Speaker 1: with deer activity, current conditions, and with the strategies and

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Speaker 1: tactics can help you right now. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx and

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Speaker 1: back today for radio, which is our weekly mini series

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Speaker 1: during the season where we're talking to hunters all across

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Speaker 1: the country to get the latest on what happening out

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Speaker 1: there in the white tailed woods, the progress of the rut,

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Speaker 1: different conditions that are impacting deer and deer hunting, what

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Speaker 1: kind of tactics are working right now? And um, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say I made a huge mistake last week, but

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Speaker 1: because of with schedules, I could not make it for

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Speaker 1: the Rut Radio show last year or last week. The

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Speaker 1: intro that is so I said, Spencer, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you're a mature adult. You can handle RUT Radio all

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Speaker 1: by yourself this week. And then and then he goes

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Speaker 1: off the rails talking about all sorts of crazy stuff

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Speaker 1: which I actually really got to kick out of Spencer.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed you speaking as my proxy. UM, well done,

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Speaker 1: my friend, thank you. It would only be fair then

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Speaker 1: if you just did this whole week solo for the intro,

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Speaker 1: just to level things out. Yeah, I should have thought

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Speaker 1: that ahead of time. UM. But but yeah, we're it

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Speaker 1: is good to be back on here here about what's

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Speaker 1: happening across the country. UM. I don't have a whole

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Speaker 1: lot to myself because I've kind of taken the last

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Speaker 1: week off to get caught up on family. Um, of course,

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Speaker 1: the holidays and different things going on. After I've been

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Speaker 1: out basically the last month hunting NonStop. I need to

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Speaker 1: get requainting with my wife and son. So UM, that

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Speaker 1: was good. But it sounds like you just keep on hunting. Um,

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Speaker 1: your wife doesn't seem to care, so that's good. UM.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked on the podcast at least

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Speaker 1: at least not about your Kentucky hunt. Are you interested

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Speaker 1: in sharing about that because that was just a few

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Speaker 1: days ago or last week, right, Yeah, that was pretty

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Speaker 1: much exactly a week ago. Um, that property that I

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Speaker 1: but usually better in the evenings. And I was seeing

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Speaker 1: all sorts of doughs on those hunts, like sometimes twenty two,

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Speaker 1: that's like really unusual, because I think Kentucky has one

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Speaker 1: of the higher deer populations in the country, so seeing

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Speaker 1: ton of deer, but just not the quality bucks that

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Speaker 1: I want to go home. Um with some meat, because

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Speaker 1: age classes like in your area. Now. Talking to Bryce

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Speaker 1: to go. So UM, something to something to keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: And I'd be interested to see, you know, as we

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Speaker 1: I'll be really curious to to see who does see

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Speaker 1: any kind of secondary run and then what their scenario is.

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Speaker 1: and then in New Jersey from Red Hand Outdoor Company

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Speaker 1: is Pet Cutter. That in Texas we talked to Tyler

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Speaker 1: Jones from the Element podcast, and then in North Dakota

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Speaker 1: from Ultimate Outdoor Adventures TV is John Arman. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a good group of folks. Um, I commend you,

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Speaker 1: Spencer C. You don't need to commend yourself. And with that, UM,

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Speaker 1: to the first color. Before we do that, though, let's

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Speaker 1: pause for word from our sponsors at white Tail Properties.

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Speaker 1: This week. With white Tail Properties, we are joined by

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Speaker 1: Tom James, a land specialist out of Indiana, and Tom

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Speaker 1: is going to be telling us about looking at properties

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Speaker 1: that advertise with cash rent opportunity. Cash remant opportunities can

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of things, and it all relates to

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Speaker 1: the productivity of your soils on on the on the

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Speaker 1: tillable ground. And one thing you might want to make

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Speaker 1: yourself familiar with is what's called the n C C

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Speaker 1: T I rating, which stands for the National Commodity Crop

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Speaker 1: Production Index and that number usually as as arranged up

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Speaker 1: to about a hundred, So you'll see n ccp I

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Speaker 1: ratings of anywhere from say forty or fifty on the

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Speaker 1: on the good productive farmland. What that means it's too

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Speaker 1: Hunt in Illinois now Alex in Illinois. What would you

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Speaker 1: they're still You're still getting a couple of big bucks.

431
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: There are cruising for those late those. I talked to

432
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: a buddy, I want to say, three days to go,

433
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: and I think it was um he had a buck

434
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: on a on a doll early afternoon. Um. But from

435
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: what I've seen, pretty much, it's it's it's it's out.

436
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: What about with mornings, it's typically as we get into

437
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: late season, guys started doing more evening hunts. Do you

438
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: have any strategies to to kill them ature buck in

439
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: the morning. Um, I mean if you if you've got

440
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: good access and you could sneak in into their bedroom

441
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: or just outside their bedroom on you know, down one side,

442
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't rule it out. I don't have

443
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: a great place to really do that. I could potentially

444
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: do that, but I wouldn't really risk you know, blowing

445
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: him out of there unless I thought that was that

446
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: was the only way I could kill him. Um, I mean,

447
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: you can do it, but I probably put him. It

448
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't really risk it going forward. Then, in the sixt

449
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that Bucket ATV

450
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: is going to be on a skill of one to

451
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: ten in New Jersey. I'd say it's gonna be pretty stagnant.

452
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: The weather's really not doing much. We probably have average

453
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: temps and moon phase is getting getting dark. I would

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: call it a four or five out of ten. All right, Pat, Well,

455
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: good luck to you and the guys at Red Hand

456
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: out Door Company. Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, all

457
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: right and joining us on the line. Next is Tyler

458
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: Jones from the Element podcast in Texas. Tyler in Texas,

459
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activities been lay on

460
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten and it's probably a seven. Uh,

461
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: I would think it loose, was quite a bit of

462
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: cruising and uh, it's it's not just messing around at all,

463
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's on a fast walk. So, um, if

464
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: you're in, if you're in a funnel, it's a good

465
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: place to be this time of year. What phase of

466
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the route would you say you're part of Texas is in? Then? Uh, well,

467
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: in in East Texas, we're uh, you know, Northeast Texas,

468
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: and it's it's the rude. I mean we uh, we

469
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: start kind of with the traditional dates where everybody else

470
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: is and and we're still going strong this time of

471
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: year in late November and it really until December. Um,

472
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: we consider it pretty much the rut. Still. So how

473
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: do your strategies change when you're hunting a place like

474
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: Northeast Texas versus a place like Kansas in late November?

475
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: What are your how do you set ups differ from

476
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: those two areas? Yeah, I mean when I'm in in

477
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: Northeast Texas, I'm gonna be seeing this time of year,

478
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a rut funnel of some sort, some

479
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: kind of a pinch. Uh. And in particular where I've

480
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: been sitting in the last few a few days that

481
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: I've been hunt in Texas. Um is basically creek with

482
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of junk in it, a bunch of trash,

483
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: uh you know, boat ark trees and stuff that kind

484
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: of blocked away, and then a big creek. Um that

485
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: that creek feeds into. Um come. You know, there's a

486
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: pretty pretty narrow like sixty yards pinch up against the

487
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: big creek, and uh man, there's a great trail. So

488
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you see a good trail this time

489
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: of year, um, that's kind of between betting areas obviously.

490
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean that sets up well. Uh you know, if

491
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: I was hunting somewhere in the Midwest where you have

492
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: more traditional run and you're starting to get more post

493
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: rud at this time, I'm gonna be sitting a little

494
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: closer to food sources. Probably you just hoping that cold

495
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: weather brings the dose out and and uh that the

496
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: bucks will follow up before dark. How about with signmaking Texis,

497
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: are you still seeing some active rubs and scraps? Oh yeah, definitely,

498
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: UM seeing seeing quite a few rubs, uh and scrapes

499
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: are still um still being worked. Definitely I've got a

500
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: on a private piece that I've got I'm actually made

501
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: a box grape and broke a limb over and they've

502
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: they've been hammering. It's uh even up until I guess

503
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago when I last suck that, Uh,

504
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: it's still fresh. So uh that's exciting. It's good to

505
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: have your cameras on and be monitor ring um as

506
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: those big dear kind of monitoring to see which does

507
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: might be coming in late or decoying. Is that a

508
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: strategy that you'd be using right now in Texas? Uh,

509
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: It's it's not really. I've been rattling a little bit.

510
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: But as far as decoyin goes, we don't, uh, we

511
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: don't use a lot of decoys where we're at. Our

512
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: dear densities um are probably a little lower uh than

513
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: most areas compared to the amount of uh just brush

514
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: that we have. Essentially, you would think there'd be more dear,

515
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: but they tend to walk in on a decoy pretty

516
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: close range and it's not a good thing, uh sometimes,

517
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: so we hold off on the decoys. But I have

518
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: been rattling a little bit, uh, usually starting out pretty

519
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: light because stick covered and just making sure, nothing's too

520
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: close before I really get into it. And UH actually

521
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: rattled uh a little one year old inn the other day,

522
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: which is something to be since it doesn't sound crazy

523
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: cool to most people, but that's something to be talked about.

524
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: In East Texas, for sure, we don't rattle too many

525
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: deer and very often, so I think it's definitely a

526
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: tactic that could work right now for sure. Last time

527
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: I talked to you a few months ago, I believe

528
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: you brought up the big acorn crop that you're experiencing

529
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: in that part of Texas. Is that still a factor

530
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: or not? It is? Um. We actually had I think

531
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: most of the most of the Midwest got hit with

532
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: us some pretty good snowstorms and that kind of from

533
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: last few days. And that was mainly just I mean,

534
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of cold weather, but it's

535
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot of wind and um, I actually uh living

536
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: in a metal roof house right now, and so I

537
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: can hear the anchors falling on my on my roof

538
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: all night. And basically we had a heavy wind or

539
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: high winds and early in the night it's just like

540
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: raining down all the rest of the acrons on top

541
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: of them, on top of the roots there and then

542
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: by the morning it was still blowing, but there was

543
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: nothing's hidden. So I think, um, that you're gonna see

544
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: that pretty much all acrons have fallen at this point

545
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: out of the trees here northeast Texas, and that, uh,

546
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: it's something that you can keep him on for the

547
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: next few weeks until maybe a rain kind of spoils

548
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: them or something like that. So, um, and we have

549
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: been seeing we've been hunting near smoke flats up against

550
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: that particular pinch I was talking about earlier. Um, it's

551
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: got a old flat right next to the creek there

552
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: and and uh, those those are coming in there, and

553
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like it would be like hunting.

554
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: The feet are just about uh they're coming in there

555
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: and and staying there for a while in the mornings.

556
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: So it's definitely something to to key in on. I

557
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: think until we get a little more rain or just

558
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: gets real late in the here going forward, then in

559
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: this sext week or so, what do you think that

560
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be on a scale of

561
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: one to ten and texts, I think that if we

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: continue to get some pretty chilly weather, it's gonna be

563
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good for sure. Last year our trail

564
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: camera showed late November is being one of the best

565
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: times for for buck travel during daylight hours. It seemed

566
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: like so um, I think with that a couple of

567
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: with some cold tempts um our deer here in North

568
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: these Texas a pretty thin skin. So um, they definitely

569
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: like to hit the food sources. If you have any

570
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: agg we've built that kind of thing. Um, definitely be

571
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: close to those in the next few weeks for sure.

572
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Al Right, Tyler, good luck with what's left at the rut.

573
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Alright, thanks all right and joining

574
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is John Armand from Ultimate

575
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Outdoor Adventures TV in North Dakota. Now John in North Dakota.

576
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: What would you say the bucket activity has been lately

577
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: on a skill of one to ten. I would say

578
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: in the past week it's been added abount of five.

579
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: You know what we've seen is in in the last

580
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: week things have really tapered off. It seems like our

581
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: rut was really kicking in hard um that November nine

582
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: at that time where the deer were really going at

583
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: it hard. And in this past week we were just

584
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: out in Montana hunting bill beer and whitetail, and saw

585
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: a very few of the buck still on doors. There

586
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: was an occasional mature buck that was on a door,

587
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: but for the most part, we have seen things really

588
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: taper off in the last week. So how will that

589
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: change your strategy going forward? What are you gonna be

590
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: focusing on as we get in December. Well, for us,

591
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: we've you know, we've always been we are usually rifle

592
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: hunting during the rut, so um it's not as crucial

593
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: for us. But now we're getting back into the bow

594
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: and with the rut tapering down, all these deer are

595
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: run down and the temperature I look at the forecast

596
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: next week is supposed to get cold. They're going to

597
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: be hitting the food sources and that's where we really

598
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: can trade on. If we have any standing corn, um,

599
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: sunflower or anything like that, we're gonna be sitting up on,

600
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, cutting them off. They're gonna be getting on

601
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: their feet a lot earlier. They're gonna be moving because

602
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: they have to, they have to refuel. The bucks that

603
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: we have taken in the past few weeks have zero

604
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: body fat on them, and that usually is the case.

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be hitting those food sources. Do you

606
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: do any morning sits during that time? Absolutely, we do

607
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: a lot of morning sits. This is probably one of

608
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: the times we do more than in the past, just

609
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: because our deer are they're staying out later. It seems

610
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: like this time of year they will be hanging in

611
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: those food sources and meander and their way back to

612
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: the bedding area. Usually we have deer moving all the

613
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: way into nine o'clock this time of year with the

614
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: cold temperatures, and so with those morning sits on those

615
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: corn fields or sunflower fields, are you sitting on a

616
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: field edge or you're catching them somewhere between that field

617
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: and the betting We do a lot in the evening.

618
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: We're usually sitting up on the food sources, um, you know,

619
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: waiting for them to to get to the food sources.

620
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: And most of our food sources are right at the

621
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: end of draws, so we're able to do that. And

622
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: it seems like the deer we hunt, they go to

623
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: our food sources and they keep going south into the

624
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: neighbors and other food sources. So we will set up

625
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: in between then um in the morning, so we'll kind

626
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: of set up between two corn fields and it seems

627
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: like they're um, they're never happy with the food source

628
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: you have for them, and they go to the next one.

629
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: So we will get set up in between them and

630
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: hopefully catch them on the way back. Do you notice

631
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: the change in bedding as we get into December and

632
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: some of that colder weather and snow rolls and um,

633
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: we do. And one of the things that has hurt

634
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: us this year is our corn fields are still up.

635
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: We had quite I would say six of the fields

636
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: around us. We're up a lot of the deer we're

637
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: bedding in the corn and um not going into the

638
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: the you know, the dance cover because of UM. You know,

639
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: they just feel safer there with those fields coming off

640
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: and the temperature is dropping. UM. With our northwest winds

641
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: coming and those little Berta clippers coming, those deer are

642
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: going to be looking for those places that are out

643
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: of the out of the wind. They'll be going into

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00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: those coolies and draws. UM. A lot of times ours

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00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: will start betting a lot closer to the food source

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Speaker 1: than normal. They'll move up, you know, maybe halfway between them,

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Speaker 1: just so they don't have to travel further and burn

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Speaker 1: that energy they need. You just mentioned that the winds

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Speaker 1: may be affecting some movement, But are there any other

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Speaker 1: weather patterns or moon phases in early December that you

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Speaker 1: think positively or negatively affect your movement. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: it's one of those deals we've We've always said we

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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: hunt no matter when, and um, doesn't make a difference

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Speaker 1: what the moon phase is because we all work full

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Speaker 1: time and if it's a full moon and we have

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Speaker 1: a day off, we're hunting. But it definitely makes a difference. Um,

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00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: you know those deer do. It seems like no matter what,

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Speaker 1: there's always those two or three days out of that

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Speaker 1: month that are absolutely phenomenal. But we see more of

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Speaker 1: those days. Um, the cold of the temperatures get because, um,

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Speaker 1: if you're starving and you're hungry, you have to get

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Speaker 1: on your feet. You gotta move and you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: wait for the moon phase or the barometric pressure you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go by that you need to get fuel in

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Speaker 1: your system. So I think those deer will be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more vulnerable all this time of year. Now

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Speaker 1: we're probably about ten days or so away from that

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Speaker 1: secondary rout. Is there anything that changes for you guys

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Speaker 1: to to get some of that secondary rutting action. Um, No,

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00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: we really don't. We don't really change any kind of tactics.

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00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: We're still sitting on the food sources because if the

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: doors are coming to the food source, the buck um

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00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: is right behind them, and then you get that activity

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00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: and then you can be you might be able to

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00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: catch them um on their feet a little bit longer

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Speaker 1: and chasing. But nothing really changes for us. We're still

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00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: hunting those food sources because that dough is gonna be

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00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: hitting those food sources and then she's in heat and cycle.

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Speaker 1: The buck is going to be right behind her going forward.

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Speaker 1: Then in this next week or so, what do you

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00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: think that bucketivity is going to be on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one to ten in North Dakota. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: the bucket activity is going to be as far as

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Speaker 1: rutting goes, probably in that three to four. I think

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Speaker 1: you're still gonna catch that occasional one out there. But

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: I think the deer activity is going to be good

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Speaker 1: because of the colder weather and they're gonna be hitting

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Speaker 1: those food sources. All right, John, Well, good luck to

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Speaker 1: the north, Thanks for joining me, Thank you buddy, have

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Speaker 1: a great day, and that concludes this week's episode of

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Speaker 1: Wired to Haunts wrote Radio. Thanks to Alex, pat Tyler,

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Speaker 1: and John for joining me, and thank you guys for listening.

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Speaker 1: as well. The next time I talked to you guys

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Speaker 1: is going to be December, so get the long John's

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Speaker 1: out and get ready for some late season, cold season haunts.

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Speaker 1: Until then, stay Wired to Haunt