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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast O. Wellcome back in. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you are having fantastic Thursdays wherever you may be

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Speaker 1: across this great country. We've got a lot to discuss,

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Speaker 1: but let's go ahead and bring our good friend who

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Speaker 1: has done an incredible job bringing everything and making sense

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Speaker 1: of the larger world. Andy, thank you for goodness trying

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Speaker 1: to make sense of this world. Let's start right here.

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy is with us. You are an incredible guy

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Speaker 1: who has seen all sorts of craziness over the years.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the latest with Hunter Biden. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen a situation where people come out and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go and try to get this out

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Speaker 1: in the larger community. Right like you're basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to try and indict him, and as a result,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do this over the last several weeks.

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Speaker 1: What's going on here.

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Speaker 2: I think plays that this is a pattern with this prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: A term I used loosely because every prosecutor I've ever

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Speaker 2: either been or known or worked with, they were trying

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Speaker 2: to make cases, and this guy has been trying for

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Speaker 2: five years to disappear a case. So that's that's kind

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Speaker 2: of new in my experience. But I think the pattern

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Speaker 2: with this guy is that he gets cornered, so he

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Speaker 2: with the you know, when he gave the con job

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Speaker 2: for the whistleblower agents, when he told them that these

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Speaker 2: bad Biden appointed prosecutors were blocking him from bringing charges

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and Washington, when, like anybody who knows

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Speaker 2: anything about the Justice Department knows, one US attorney can't

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Speaker 2: stop another US attorney from bringing charges. Those kind of

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Speaker 2: turf battles happen all the time you go in the

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Speaker 2: Justice Department. The Attorney General makes a ruling, And if

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland wanted the Biden's charge or Hunter Biden charge,

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Speaker 2: he would have just ordered the US attorney in Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles to Washington to work with wife, right, So, you know,

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Speaker 2: he says what he needs to say to get out

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Speaker 2: of uncomfortable situations. Everybody should understand when he said yesterday

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Speaker 2: wife that he may indict Hunter Biden in the next

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Speaker 2: two weeks, it wasn't because he wanted to put that

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Speaker 2: information out. It was because the judge put his feet

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Speaker 2: to the fire. The judge gave him. The judge was afraid,

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Speaker 2: having had this guy once before tried to pull the

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Speaker 2: just gonna lay low in the tall graphs and let

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Speaker 2: at the end of the month. So she ordered him

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Speaker 2: basically said what he had to say to get out

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Speaker 2: of the room, which is, you know, the statute of

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Speaker 2: limitations runs by the twenty ninth, and we expect to

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Speaker 2: indict by then. Doesn't mean he has indict. It's not

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Speaker 2: an enforceable commitment. But my point to people is this

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Speaker 2: easiest case of all time. It would take about ten

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Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes to present this to a grand jury.

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Speaker 2: It's a one paragraph indictment, So why plan to indict

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Speaker 2: after five years? Why not say indict? You know, you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't give a status report to the court, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: one paragraph indictment and says, here, I've done it. Why

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Speaker 3: Well, Andy, what what happens though? If your inclination on

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Speaker 3: this is correct? And he just kind of says, whoopsie

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Speaker 3: statute of limitations? Does he face any actual sanctions? I mean,

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Speaker 3: can the judge do anything?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: I don't see how buck, because you know, it's black

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Speaker 2: letter constitutional law that a court cannot order a prosecutor

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Speaker 2: because I guess wife probably now feels like he made

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Speaker 2: you know, if he could be sanctioned her like irresponsibly

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Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm sure I've told you guys

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Speaker 2: five year statue of limitations for most federal crimes, six

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Speaker 1: Have have you seen the grand jury ever get basically

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Speaker 1: that they just make the decide the decision not to

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, we should reader there

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Speaker 2: is no grand jury at this point. Nothing he has

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Speaker 2: First of all, there was no reason to indict because

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Speaker 2: it was misdemeanor charges, which the US attorney could bring

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Speaker 2: without a grand jury. And the diversion agreement on the

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Speaker 2: never been brought to a grand jury. If you're asking, like,

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Speaker 2: true bill where the grand jury refused to indict, that

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Speaker 2: could happen. But this is such a slam dun't play.

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Speaker 2: I just I mean, the god made a false statement

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Speaker 2: I think there's two guns. I don't think it's one gun,

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Speaker 2: in connection with a revolver. And if you looked at

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Speaker 2: with the prostitute a couple of days after, he thought

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Speaker 2: So I think there's more than one gun. Andy just

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like you think he's just going to run.

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Speaker 3: He's going to run the clock out on this too,

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Speaker 3: which would be amazing and one of the most egregious

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Speaker 3: they're going to move his they want to move his

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Speaker 3: immunity protection for federal officials. There's some complexity here, Andy,

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Speaker 1: Is it a big deal? How do you see it

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think already buck that Mark Meadows as lawyers

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Speaker 2: to federal court. The removal doctrine basically is to prevent

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Speaker 2: A lot of what Meadows has been accused of in

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Speaker 2: think it actually charges a crime, certainly with respect to Meadows,

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Speaker 2: but you know, he's charged with things like arranging meetings

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Speaker 2: of the chief of staff's job. So if you allowed

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Speaker 2: So for that reason, the removal doctrine and the statute

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Speaker 2: but the forum would be federal court. So I think

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Speaker 2: they've got a very good chance of moving this. I'd

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's just the federal officials. I believe

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Speaker 2: and then what Trump is going to argue is that

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Speaker 2: they have immunity from stay prosecution. And I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a weightier argument than people think. I've said,

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Speaker 2: I don't think this racket hearing case, where there's racketeering

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Speaker 2: a crime because the only objective that she unifies all

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Speaker 2: Trump in office, which is not a crime. You know,

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Speaker 2: if it were, when people like Al Gore or Stacey

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Speaker 2: Abrams would be in jail. Right. You can agree to

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Speaker 2: to do is a crime. And she's trying to paper

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Speaker 2: that over by calling it a rico. But a rico

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Speaker 2: a racketeering organization is something like a mafia family where

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Speaker 2: and sustain its existence, because that's how you obtain money

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Speaker 2: twentieth of twenty twenty one. Either Trump was going to

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Speaker 2: I did Rico cases for a long time. I don't

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Speaker 1: Do you think if you had to break this down,

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Speaker 1: given we've got four different major, you know, charges that

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Speaker 1: are out there right now, how many of them will

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Speaker 2: Well, the most important person in that equation is always

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Speaker 2: the judge. Play So it seems to me that this

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Speaker 2: and it's very hard in the federal system to force

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Speaker 2: I think that one's got the best chance of going

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Speaker 2: on March fourth. I think that's a gross violation of

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Speaker 2: to be ready for that trial on March fourth, when

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Speaker 2: the prosecutor before bringing the charges and guided him in

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Speaker 2: a different jurisdiction a thousand miles away. On another case,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in. I hope all of you are having

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Speaker 1: fantastic Thursdays where you may be across this great country.

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Speaker 1: You heard us going through and discussing with Andy McCarthy

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Speaker 1: Andy has a lot of opinions, buck, but he was

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that's a really tough burden that you're

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Speaker 1: Well, so this is what I think is weird. I

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Speaker 1: There should be charges. This is not complicated to his point.

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Speaker 1: is the is the big challenge kind of going forward.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I've that we're going on now two

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Speaker 3: years of this. Hunter's not seeing the inside of a

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Speaker 3: prison cell. Hunter's gonna skape, telling you he's gonna skate.

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Speaker 1: My concern con certain is they could almost rig the

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Speaker 1: system and not get a charge. It's usually if you

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Speaker 1: try to bring a grand jury charges the grand jury,

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Speaker 1: the phrase is what they'd always indict a ham sandwich,

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Speaker 1: That's always what said. My concern is they could almost

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Speaker 1: tank that in intentionally and avoid having to bring anything

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Speaker 1: against Hunter. In other words, do such a bad job

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Speaker 1: that they may not even be able to get charges brought.

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Speaker 3: But why just I mean, to the point that we're

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Speaker 3: talking about any about nothing happens if they just don't

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Speaker 3: bring the charge, They're just not going to bring the chargemen.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. I'm with any on this one.

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Speaker 3: I think this is just going to turn into yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, complexity, YadA YadA, what are you gonna do it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it gets hard if they're gonna say

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Speaker 1: we're going to bring charges by December, by September twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: and that's not what is that twenty days from now?

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Speaker 3: Basically, maybe they force them into a diversion program, but

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Speaker 3: that's just a redo.

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Speaker 1: All that is is a redo of.

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Speaker 3: The unbelievable sweetheart deals they tried to get through with

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Speaker 3: nor I mean Clay. The reason the nor that Judge

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Speaker 3: nor Aca deal fell apart, and she's the one who

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Speaker 3: made it fall apart, and Clay's been giving her high

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Speaker 3: fives about that ever since.

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Speaker 1: Rightly so.

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Speaker 3: The reason it fell apart was that the deal was

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Speaker 3: so grotesquely favorable that they tried to hide how favorable

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Speaker 3: the deal was, so now they're just gonna do another

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Speaker 3: version of that deal on similar terms and say that, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we revisited it or.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, you know, and eventually it's what are you going

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Speaker 1: to do about it?

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Speaker 3: Trump's been indicted four times, Hunter hasn't been indicted, you know,

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Speaker 3: deal with it.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be their attitude. Yeah, and uh, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to see what happens, because I keep hoping

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Speaker 1: that the pressure has become so significant thanks to the

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Speaker 1: Republicans taking control of the House, that there is going

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Speaker 1: to be some sort of consequence, consequential outcome here. But

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Speaker 1: you have no faith, Yeah, well, I mean no faith.

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Speaker 1: The fact that we have even gotten here I take

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Speaker 1: as a very good sign because but for this judge

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Speaker 1: actually pointing out what an incredible rig job this case was,

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Speaker 1: and the IRS employees coming forward and testifying under oath

484
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Speaker 1: and saying that the fix was in. But for that occurring,

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Speaker 1: this story would already be over, and anybody who tried

486
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Speaker 1: to bring it up, they would say, oh, there's nothing there,

487
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Speaker 1: this has already been resolved. Let's move on. It's not

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Speaker 1: a serious issue. At least, it's still lingering, even if

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Speaker 1: there is significant concern I think legitimate. I think that's

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Speaker 1: fair to question whether any true justice is going to

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Speaker 1: be applied.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they were to try to, if I was

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Speaker 3: Hunter's legal team, I would say, we either get a

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Speaker 3: diversion where you get no prison time. I wonder if

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Speaker 3: he would take a felony plea, given that that felony

496
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Speaker 3: plea would last on his record for a grand total

497
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Speaker 3: of one year, and then his dad would pardon him obviously,

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Speaker 3: So that's one way that So, you know, as long

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Speaker 3: as he's not going to prison, I think he doesn't

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Speaker 3: really care, and he you know, for this usually there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of things that should have sent him to prison,

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Speaker 3: but he's not going to go to prison. And that's

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Speaker 3: always been the contention here because short of that, I

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Speaker 3: think people will say it's not that big a deal,

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Speaker 3: they'll forget about it. But if I'm Hunter, I would

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Speaker 3: just say bring it. You want to take this to trial,

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Speaker 3: I'll delay. I'll say tell the judge that I want

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Speaker 3: more time. They took five years to investigate this, I

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Speaker 3: need some time with my team to prepare our defense.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah. You know, delay it as much if you

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Speaker 3: can delay it until next summer then you could delay

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Speaker 3: sentencing until after. The whole point is his dad's gonna

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Speaker 3: bail him out eventually, one way or the other, because

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Speaker 3: his dad will be president in November. Even if he

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Speaker 3: loses the election, and he's gonna it's gonna be the

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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: They bring charges at the end of September, it's very

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Speaker 1: likely that he will be able to withstand that case

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Speaker 1: until the election already happens. There won't be a full conclusion. Now.

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Speaker 1: Then the challenge becomes, though, Buck, And you're right, I

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Speaker 1: think if Biden were to lose, he would go ahead

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Speaker 1: and give give the the the ability for his son

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Speaker 1: to walk free and win or win.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But basically you're talking about both sides trying to avoid

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Speaker 1: going to prison, right. I mean, that's the reality that

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Speaker 1: we would find ourselves in. Now, what a ridiculous situation.

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Speaker 1: This is so crazy.

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Speaker 3: I can't even if you had like been, you know,

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Speaker 3: drop from the sky into the politics of today and

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Speaker 3: you're listening to a radio show that's focused primarily on

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Speaker 3: American politics, and we're talking about who from the you

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Speaker 3: know leading basically, who from the two most powerful political

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Speaker 3: families might be going to prison in an election year.

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Speaker 3: It would all sound completely insane, and this is where

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Speaker 3: we are. It does take some getting used.

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Speaker 1: To, yes. And by the way, if he were actually

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Speaker 1: trying to unite Americans, I think we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: on the show, and I think it's right he would decide, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pardon Trump and I'm going to pardon

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Speaker 1: my son. And I'm talking, by the way, about about

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, clearly, and if he did that, I think

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Speaker 1: it's the only way that he could get past the

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Speaker 1: idea of pardoning his son. Now, I may say he

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Speaker 1: doesn't care if he wins election. He's eighty two years

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Speaker 1: old and he's probably not going to fulfill the term anyway.

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Speaker 1: He's going to protect his son. But what a crazy

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Speaker 1: place we're in that we could legitimately be saying, on

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Speaker 1: its most basic level, whether you could go to prison

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Speaker 1: or not is a function of who wins the presidential election.

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Speaker 1: Notwithstanding that Joe Biden might be willing to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and part in Hunter, no matter what, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: This is not a good position to find you're in

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Speaker 1: Let's say, what have we got here?

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Speaker 2: Bob?

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Speaker 1: We got these?

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Speaker 3: Call still up guys, Bob in Pennsylvania on viveate Bob,

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Speaker 3: what have you got for us?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 5: I was calling. I think you were asking earlier about

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Speaker 5: why rom Swami was running for president If he thinks

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Speaker 5: Trump can do as good a job or he can

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Speaker 5: only do his job is what Trump does. My opinion

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Speaker 5: is that rum Swami is running and not saying anything

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Speaker 5: against Trump because he's hedging on the possibility that Trump

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Speaker 5: can't run for president, and he doesn't say anything against

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Speaker 5: Trump because then he can take all the Trump voters

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Speaker 5: as ow h.

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Speaker 1: I understand the argument. I think the chance is that

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Speaker 1: Trump is not going to be able to run are

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Speaker 1: virtually zero. So if I were trying to sketch out

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Speaker 1: what I think the vague is doing, it is that

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Speaker 1: for people who are like Trump but don't want necessarily

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Speaker 1: to go all in on Trump, he basically is just

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Speaker 1: crowding out DeSantis, Nicky Haley, Tim Scott, Mike Pence, any

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Speaker 1: of those guys that are running against Trump. In some way,

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Speaker 1: he is locking in more of the Trump support. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Like he just is making it more

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Speaker 1: different cult for there to be somebody competing head to

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Speaker 1: head against Trump.

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Speaker 5: Yep, right, things he could be hedging his bet on

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Speaker 5: being a vice president.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I think I think that's true. We see that,

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Speaker 1: We see that one for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think he's I think he recognizes that vice president

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Speaker 3: or perhaps you know, a very senior role in a

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Speaker 3: Trump administration. Gordon in Colorado, Gordon, what have you got?

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Speaker 1: Gordon? Gordon may well have vanished? Okay, David in what

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Speaker 1: actually this was? H is he still up?

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Speaker 3: Okay, forget it. Let's go to VIP email. Sorry I'm calling.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling for calls that have that have dropped out. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Steven writes Clay and Bach being a couple of history nerds,

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Speaker 3: here are a couple of books you might like. Away

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Speaker 3: All Boats by Kenneth Dodson. It's a historical fiction following

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Speaker 3: forty four. In Joy Clay, Rea Good tells what is

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Speaker 3: Clay reading these days? Now that you're done with your

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Speaker 3: book tour, you get to read fun things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. I'm actually trying to decide. I'm going

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Speaker 1: through right now all of I tweet about this because

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Speaker 1: it's been a while since I just went and read

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Speaker 1: total page turner fiction fun, and so I'm now reading

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Speaker 1: all these fun murder mysteries right now, so that is

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Speaker 1: what that's what I'm rolling through. I used to love

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Speaker 1: to read those back in the day when I was

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Speaker 1: And I tend to read more nonfiction now, but I've

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Speaker 1: gotten more and more into fiction, so I can't even

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Speaker 1: remember the name of the book that I'm reading right now,

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Speaker 1: but it's a murder mystery.

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Speaker 3: And of course I am pilgrim going to the top

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Speaker 3: of your list, and I told you about that one recently. Yes,

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Speaker 3: thank you, will very much, very much enjoy. Gordon is

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Speaker 3: apparently there. And since we call this name out for

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Speaker 3: all of America to hear, Gordon, welcome, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: If Hunter Biden doesn't get prosecuted for this gun violation,

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Speaker 6: what does it say for all the gun laws that

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Speaker 6: the Democrats have passed.

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Speaker 1: They're total hypocrites and they don't care. Yep, that's a

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Speaker 1: good point. I appreciate that the answer. Yeah, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say. I mean the same thing that they're saying

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Speaker 1: now about about everything when it comes to Hunter. They

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Speaker 1: want everybody to get fully prosecuted if they happen to

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Speaker 1: be associated with January sixth in any way, right, you've

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Speaker 1: got to go to prison for years. But Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 1: who has been engaged in multiple felonies, which there is

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Speaker 1: clear evidence of, and there has been since the FBI

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Speaker 1: took possession of his laptop in what November of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: The FBI is known for four years now that Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden committed multiple felonies and they have done nothing. So

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Speaker 1: the answer is they're going to be hypocrites about it.

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Speaker 1: They're going to claim that we need to have stricter

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Speaker 1: gun laws for everybody. But I've been trying to tell

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Speaker 1: conservatives for a long time. We say, you guys have

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Speaker 1: double standards lives, and they say, correct, what are you

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Speaker 1: going to do about it? Yeah, that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are with the gun charge with Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Well at least we're saying here, But at

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Speaker 1: least we are holding the line and trying to defend

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Speaker 1: the Republic each and every day, doing what we can

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Speaker 1: because things are getting a little crazy out there. And

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Speaker 1: at least Joe Biden is the data reflecting anyway, slowly

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Speaker 1: losing more and more support. And I do think one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest parts of this CNN poll that came

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Speaker 1: out that we started discussing at the start of the

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Speaker 1: show is that there are more and more people who

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Speaker 1: believe that Joe Biden was sixty two percent. I believe

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Speaker 1: in the most recent recent poll was in fact engaging

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Speaker 1: in business practices that were a bit untoured with Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: That numbers continuing to grow, that's a good sign. Maybe

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Speaker 1: call your buddy Gavin Newsom. I want to see what

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Speaker 1: he's up to these days. He's the next the man

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Speaker 1: up