Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, We are scrubbing in from Afar.
Speaker 3: Mub from my far.
Speaker 2: My favorite Tanya's least favorite thing in the world is
Speaker 2: doing a podcast via Zoom, and that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 1: I'm so adamant about not having guests on Zoom, so
Speaker 1: the fact that we're on Zoom just shatters my heart
Speaker 1: into a million pieces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say I feel the same. I don't
Speaker 2: know that my heart is shattered into a million pieces.
Speaker 2: But we don't do it often. In fact, we very
Speaker 2: rarely do it since we've been you know, released back
Speaker 2: into the wild. But today we're doing it and easton
Speaker 2: Marker and studio together. Tanya's at her home, I met
Speaker 2: my home, and it's gonna be a wonderful podcast because
Speaker 2: there's a lot to catch up on and talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you I was a little freaked
Speaker 1: out because when I heard Hurricane Hillary, I was like,
Speaker 1: I've never experienced a hurricane. My mind went to a
Speaker 1: million places, and I thought I'd be working from home
Speaker 1: on Monday, you know, like my first day back at work, right,
Speaker 1: But as the hours progressed, and the hours went on
Speaker 1: and on. I feel like it reduced from like hurricane
Speaker 1: to tropical storm and then it was literally just like rain.
Speaker 3: It's some wind.
Speaker 2: Listen. I will always choose the path of being overprepared
Speaker 2: as opposed to underprepared if I have the option. However,
Speaker 2: I have never felt sillier than I did draining my
Speaker 2: bathtubs yesterday, Staring at my rope that I put on
Speaker 2: across my ficus trees to keep them sturdy from the
Speaker 2: wind that did not blow, Looking at my portable charters
Speaker 2: that were overly charged, my ice chest that had ice
Speaker 2: in it, like I have never and like being from
Speaker 2: those celt You're in your bathtubs for no, you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: Everyone was saying to fill up your bathtubs because if
Speaker 2: the power went out, you could have water to flush
Speaker 2: and like use for like, so I filled up both
Speaker 2: of my bathtubs, like I'm so upset, like such a
Speaker 2: waste of water. And yeah, I feel like my Louisiana
Speaker 2: blood was absolutely disappointed and in me in the weakness
Speaker 2: that the weakness and fear I disapplayed.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I feel like it was really scary
Speaker 1: for a moment. I've never experienced a hurricane, so I
Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect, and I was telling Robbie,
Speaker 1: I'm like, should we be preparing like and I think Saturday.
Speaker 1: He was a little skee like scared of it too,
Speaker 1: because he can saying, I think you should go to
Speaker 1: the grocery store. I feel like it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be picked over, everybody's gonna be stocking up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like.
Speaker 2: It's two days. Yeah, well everything did get picked over.
Speaker 2: The shelves were empty. Yeah. I wish there was video,
Speaker 2: like actual video footage of me and Haley prepping for
Speaker 2: this storm this ray.
Speaker 1: And then like I kept seeing people on Instagram prepping
Speaker 1: for the storm, like draining their gutters and like we're
Speaker 1: not like clearing out their gutters, and so then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I start panicking about ours. I'm like, have we cleared
Speaker 1: our gutters? Have I cleared the ones that I'm like
Speaker 1: thinking about all the gutters space that I have everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 2: I have my basketball goal. So we were like putting
Speaker 2: water in the base of the basketball goal so it
Speaker 2: didn't get taken by the wind and rolling the ping
Speaker 2: pong table into the garage like we were just like
Speaker 2: we were prepared for anything and everything.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a bad storm. I mean
Speaker 4: we shouldn't be if we shouldn't minimize the fact that
Speaker 4: people on the news right now floating in cars down
Speaker 4: rivers and stuff like that, and mud slides and trees
Speaker 4: on houses, like it was a bad storm, and it
Speaker 4: was an August storm, which never happened in southern California.
Speaker 4: So I guess maybe we overreacted a bit, But I
Speaker 4: don't think that this was a letdown. And then this
Speaker 4: is pretty much as advertised.
Speaker 2: No, Like I don't feel left down at all. I'm
Speaker 2: so grateful. I just felt silly because I was like
Speaker 2: I was prepared for an out. Well then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, we.
Speaker 1: Didn't go into a bunker, Like I really had no
Speaker 1: idea what to expect, Like I'm not again, I do.
Speaker 1: It was there's a lot of stuff that has gone wrong,
Speaker 1: a lot of mud slides and a lot of trees
Speaker 1: and a lot of damage was done. But I was
Speaker 1: really expecting a hurricane like I saw on twister.
Speaker 2: Well that's a tornado. Yeah, so so yeah, that was
Speaker 2: very much Yeah, not really good would so yeah, but
Speaker 2: my parents live in Florida. So my mom's calling me
Speaker 2: and she's like, make sure you have want you know,
Speaker 2: She's like, because you just like in Florida, they never know,
Speaker 2: no one knows how bad it's going to be. They
Speaker 2: just have the prediction of what they can do, so
Speaker 2: they I felt grateful that that we were getting overly
Speaker 2: prepared because like they didn't know exactly what was going
Speaker 2: to happen once it hit land. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: I'd rather be overprepared than underprepared. We have our headlamps
Speaker 2: and extra flashlights and portable chargers in case of emergency.
Speaker 1: If I will say, though, this is so weird for California.
Speaker 1: I've never experienced a tropical storm in LA in my
Speaker 1: life like that. This felt like I was in a
Speaker 1: different country.
Speaker 2: Well, it was historical, it hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: And right though, I mean, Mark, you've lived here forever
Speaker 1: and I've never experienced like humid hot rod like that.
Speaker 4: I took the dogs out yesterday morning because I wanted
Speaker 4: to get them walked before the rain started, and it
Speaker 4: was weird. It was, yeah, it was muggy and hot.
Speaker 4: It is very not Southern California weather. This weekend. It
Speaker 4: was very strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's concerning to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do I hope that everyone who has
Speaker 2: been affected by any of the flooding, because our roads
Speaker 2: and systems are not made for any sort of rainfall.
Speaker 2: So hopefully everyone's safe. And I'm just glad it wasn't worse.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a lot of prepping for a
Speaker 2: lot of a whole lot of eating my snacks on
Speaker 2: the couch. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, it was necessary for me yesterday to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was your trip? You went to Mexico?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the trip was amazing. I like really did a
Speaker 1: good job of like disconnecting. So we went to Mexico
Speaker 1: with Robbie's family for his mom's birthday. It was like
Speaker 1: a big birthday for her. Robbie has a brother, so
Speaker 1: she took like us, Russ, Robbie and the kids and
Speaker 1: then his brother and his whole family, and so we
Speaker 1: basically stayed in like a house together and it was
Speaker 1: really really really fun. We did all the things. I
Speaker 1: like spent an entire day just like bouncing from the
Speaker 1: pool to the ocean, to the pool to the ocean,
Speaker 1: and you know, me, like I don't like to sit
Speaker 1: in wet bathing suits because of all my uti stuff.
Speaker 1: So I was literally like I would swim in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Then I would get out and I would go rinse off,
Speaker 1: change my bathing suit into a dry one, and then
Speaker 1: get back in chip change the sun.
Speaker 2: Wait, the sun's not hot enough to just dry dry
Speaker 2: you off.
Speaker 3: No, because it was like wet.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like this tropical the tropical storm
Speaker 1: that we had here. It was like the weather in Mexico.
Speaker 1: It was like very very like human moist. Like you
Speaker 1: would even put like I would put my bathing suits
Speaker 1: out to dry in the sun, and it would take
Speaker 1: so long because it was like moist.
Speaker 2: So how many times did you change one day?
Speaker 3: I think I tried.
Speaker 1: I have wore like six bathing suits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of.
Speaker 1: This, Because of this issue, I cannot sit in a
Speaker 1: wet bathing suit, So I know I have to, like
Speaker 1: I know, I always have two on me at least
Speaker 1: at all times.
Speaker 4: Why aren't you the Princess of traveling light?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's basically all I packed was just like bathing
Speaker 1: suits and cover ups whoa, whoa, and my crocs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I just would love to have like an
Speaker 2: actual in depth conversation with Robby and go did you
Speaker 2: ever see this life for yourself? The Matching family merch
Speaker 2: and crocs, which I feel like he really leans in,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like he loves it. Like I don't
Speaker 2: feel like he's just doing it to please you, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like he loves it. But I wonder if
Speaker 2: he ever saw that for himself.
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I do feel like he leans in and I
Speaker 1: do feel like he likes it, you know, the matching
Speaker 1: merch less So I think the crocs really stemmed from
Speaker 1: the kids getting them, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: the kids got them first for camp and then they
Speaker 1: were like so obsessed with them, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I think we should all get them. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm in, give me some fun gibbets and I'm in, yeah.
Speaker 3: But the you won't not even believe.
Speaker 1: One night when we were on our vacation, we did
Speaker 1: vision boards altogether, the whole fam, the whole fam, kids
Speaker 1: and all you.
Speaker 4: Did you have that conversation backer with the entire family.
Speaker 4: Did you ever envision this to be your life?
Speaker 2: I just need to know, Like I just want to
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone loves it. Like the vibe I
Speaker 2: get from from all of them is that you have
Speaker 2: brought something that maybe they never expected, but they love.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: I do think that his sister in law, so his
Speaker 1: brother's wife, is very much on the same vibe as me,
Speaker 1: Like she has a Word of the Year, like she
Speaker 1: does all this kind of stuff. So I think it's her,
Speaker 1: you know, like she's heavily into this as well. So
Speaker 1: I don't think it's coming out of left field.
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's another like you in the family exactly.
Speaker 3: There's another go in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How are the family photos? They were great.
Speaker 1: I was a little dark, there was one angle where
Speaker 1: things got a little dark for me, but you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It just it's the memories.
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing worse than getting the family photos back and
Speaker 2: knowing that's the one everyone's gonna use and being like, dang,
Speaker 2: not my.
Speaker 3: Best, not my best. But you know, it's all right,
Speaker 3: it's all good. It's the it's the memories, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vins.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But it was a great trip.
Speaker 1: I had a really good time to put my phone away,
Speaker 1: and then I came back and I had like some
Speaker 1: sickness that pertained to my stomach, and that was very
Speaker 1: unpleasant for a good forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting.
Speaker 3: Because you had the same thing.
Speaker 2: Because I woke up on Friday feeling horrible, and I like,
Speaker 2: I will I refuse to throw up, like I will
Speaker 2: avoid it at all costs, like it has to be
Speaker 2: coming against my will for me to do it, Like
Speaker 2: I would rather just wait it out and be nauseous,
Speaker 2: which I don't know if that's the right thing. Anyways,
Speaker 2: I woke up and it was it was both both ends.
Speaker 2: It was it was not good. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I thought it was food poisoning. And then you said
Speaker 2: you had a bug. And I had taken I had
Speaker 2: babysat Haley's niece and I took her to this like
Speaker 2: kids museum thing, so I was like, maybe I picked
Speaker 2: up something there. But it was like a good twenty
Speaker 2: four hours of just like discomfort. So yeah, we were
Speaker 2: going through that pretty much at the same.
Speaker 1: Time in tandem, and nothing, like nothing feels together like
Speaker 1: being in that moment. And I'm like, I'm very anti
Speaker 1: at taking amodium because I feel like, obviously there's a
Speaker 1: virus or something in you that needs to come out.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to stop it from coming, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am with you on that. I felt like
Speaker 2: the feeling that I felt was that something is clearly
Speaker 2: not happy in my body and needs to come out.
Speaker 2: So I just need to like flush it out and
Speaker 2: let it do its thing. So I was like chugging
Speaker 2: electro electro lit or whatever it's like, pedialyte I was.
Speaker 2: Haley brought those to me and I was just like
Speaker 2: guzzling them trying to get well. I needed something in
Speaker 2: my stomach to stay hydrated. So yeah, I know that
Speaker 2: we have talked because Victoria Brown filled in and we
Speaker 2: love her. She's so wonderful. I was like, anytime that
Speaker 2: we need to fill in, whether it's for me or
Speaker 2: you or just having her on the podcast, I love her.
Speaker 2: But we recap some of the Tailor Show again from
Speaker 2: her experience. But Mark, we haven't talked to you about well,
Speaker 2: your Taylor Swift experience, so people have been messaging me
Speaker 2: wanting your recap.
Speaker 4: First of all, I got some very nice questions on
Speaker 4: Facebook from the Facebook group people saying we wouldn't know
Speaker 4: what happened with your daughters, and it's very sweet, very kind,
Speaker 4: that anyone would ever think anything about me ever, So
Speaker 4: it's very sweet. I had. So I got three tickets
Speaker 4: from the radio station through the record label, so those
Speaker 4: were like VIP tickets. And then, of course, remember my
Speaker 4: youngest god asked to go with her friend's family. I
Speaker 4: don't remember how much I said and how much I didn't. Anyway,
Speaker 4: bottom line is, we let the three kids, my daughter's
Speaker 4: and my daughter's friends sit down in the VIP tickets,
Speaker 4: and then we were a level up from them and
Speaker 4: kind of side stage, but really not a bad seat
Speaker 4: in the place.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there another daughter that was involved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, her friend's sister sat with us in the
Speaker 4: four seats. She wasn't as big as swifty as the
Speaker 4: younger kids, so it worked out fine. My wife, who
Speaker 4: is a saint, spent such a good percentage of that
Speaker 4: show in line for merch because she will do anything
Speaker 4: for her daughters. It was very It was very you know,
Speaker 4: inspiring from a parental standpoint, but I did feel bad
Speaker 4: for her. She's like, Okay, I'm gonna go doing folklore,
Speaker 4: but I got to be back for nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 4: and then nineteen eighty nine starting She's texting me from
Speaker 4: the line going I'm not gonna make it, but you
Speaker 4: know what she was in and she got them the hoodies, soay.
Speaker 1: Did she make anything from nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 4: She got Therefore, I think she made it back from
Speaker 4: maybe wildest dreams. Yeah, and most of nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 4: she missed. Yeah, shake it off. She definitely missed. But
Speaker 4: my daughter's got that show. That was the Monday Night show.
Speaker 4: We got Dress and Exile as our surprise songs, and
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, of course my kids took videos of
Speaker 4: themselves reacting to that because that's what gen Z does.
Speaker 4: And oh my gosh, they scream when Dress came on,
Speaker 4: and they screamed when Exile came on. It was very
Speaker 4: It was very cool. It was It was a great show.
Speaker 4: It was a great night. We all dressed as an era.
Speaker 4: We went all in and we had a blast. Which
Speaker 4: one were you, I'll show you the pictures.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a reputation, all wow on their pants and
Speaker 4: I would have gone like eyeliner and stuff, but they
Speaker 4: don't want me to do that. You know, there's a line.
Speaker 4: There's a line, ye, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: I love those videos of people that film themselves oh
Speaker 1: me too, because like you see the like the the
Speaker 1: questioning in their head, like what song is this song?
Speaker 3: And then like no matter what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry that Eastern that did not get
Speaker 2: enough credit. What you just said. It took me a second,
Speaker 2: but like once I got it, I was like, we
Speaker 2: got to revisit. That was really good.
Speaker 3: What did he say?
Speaker 2: Because the Mark goes, I was gonna go anywhere eyeliner,
Speaker 2: but you know, I guess there's a line, and Easton
Speaker 2: goes and it's not going on your eyes. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Tony's processing because like the eye liner, you know the
Speaker 2: line he said, there's a line and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not going on your eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh, because Mark said he was going to put the
Speaker 1: makeup on.
Speaker 5: Huh, there's a metaphorical line you don't cross when you
Speaker 5: are dressing up for reputation.
Speaker 1: See this is These are the jokes I don't understand
Speaker 1: when I'm not in the studio.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The whole first part of the show is how the
Speaker 4: store was not a big deal and yet no one
Speaker 4: came into work today. It's really it's kind of funny. Anyway,
Speaker 4: they Tanya did come in Tanya was here at like
Speaker 4: quarter to five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like pulled branches out of my way to
Speaker 1: get to work this morning.
Speaker 3: I was doing doing some things out there on the road.
Speaker 4: Here here's the audio of my daughter's screaming. That's when Exile.
Speaker 2: Started on the Facebook group Exile was But honestly all
Speaker 2: hadn't made. I was pretty envious of both Exile and Dress,
Speaker 2: so that was a pretty good we were.
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's okay, but that's what you want. That's like
Speaker 4: a status thing with Swifties, like, oh, we got dress
Speaker 4: in Exile at our show.
Speaker 2: I know. It's so sick because like there's it's just
Speaker 2: like me just being able to go there is like
Speaker 2: such a privilege, and that it's like what songs did
Speaker 2: you get?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But the genius, the genius of this tour. And
Speaker 4: also it's just kind of like, you know the way
Speaker 4: tours are now. You know, when we were younger, we
Speaker 4: go to a concert, you wouldn't know what the next
Speaker 4: song was. Right nowadays, they know what the next song is,
Speaker 4: and we would think from our perspective, like, oh, that's lame.
Speaker 4: You already know what the songs are going to be.
Speaker 4: But that's so not what happens. You know, social media
Speaker 4: hypesed bigger and bigger, and that's when you get stuff
Speaker 4: like one tooth three, let's go. At the beginning of Delegate,
Speaker 4: they start adding their own things and making it interactive
Speaker 4: because they know what's happening next, so they can make
Speaker 4: it their own. And then the surprise song is such
Speaker 4: a brilliant idea to make each show a little bit unique.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it's really a cool thing
Speaker 4: how concerts are kind of evolving with social media and
Speaker 4: the way social media has made this tour the biggest
Speaker 4: tour of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually saw somebody that went to the Jonas Brothers
Speaker 1: show and said that they sang like some crazy number
Speaker 1: of songs too, like fifty or something, but they only
Speaker 1: did like snippets.
Speaker 3: They adn't be like the whole every song, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was amazing. I like miss it sometimes, Like
Speaker 2: sometimes I think about it. I'm like, I just kind
Speaker 2: of miss the show.
Speaker 3: That we're gonna get a documentary.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch. Do you know how often I watch
Speaker 2: Miss Americana and The Reputation.
Speaker 4: Three Nights Ago.
Speaker 2: It's a comfort movie for me.
Speaker 1: Both of those I watched the Pond, the what do
Speaker 1: they call the long Pond session on politics, the Disney
Speaker 1: plus the for folklore, because you know I'm a wing.
Speaker 3: I love my folklore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your a wing. Yeah, I would love an evermore
Speaker 2: long palm session.
Speaker 3: I would too, I would love it.
Speaker 2: Just putting it out there, tailor.
Speaker 5: Did any of you suffer from the amnesia they were
Speaker 5: saying that people were having after the Airs tour.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't suffer from that, but I was bummed.
Speaker 1: I didn't wear diaper. We know that I was upset,
Speaker 1: but I didn't follow that tip I recommend.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's still going around. What I did was
Speaker 4: I learned this from my father in law. It's called
Speaker 4: nothing in, nothing out. So about noon on the day
Speaker 4: of the show, I stopped consuming all things so that
Speaker 4: there was no danger.
Speaker 5: I thought this was some mental thing, having to go
Speaker 5: to the.
Speaker 4: Bathroom during that show, And it worked out. I didn't
Speaker 4: have to go to the bathroom in the show, and
Speaker 4: I go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: A lot that filthy hydrant where it.
Speaker 4: Was it was for that day, I have recovered.
Speaker 2: Weren't too hungry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, And then when it was over, I eight
Speaker 4: it was been worked up.
Speaker 2: I gave up your comfort for I'd rather just wear
Speaker 2: a diaper.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I really.
Speaker 2: Just maybe go to the restroom during a song.
Speaker 3: That was such a bummer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, enchanted. It actually is very disappointing. Okay, should we
Speaker 2: take a break.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I have to tell you my new obsession.
Speaker 2: Oh please, that's perfect. Let's take a break and we'll
Speaker 2: be right back. We're back. I was like, what is
Speaker 2: she holding on to and sniffing right now? Sonny my
Speaker 2: dog's face.
Speaker 3: I have to have her in my lap otherwise she's
Speaker 3: going to bark and make noise.
Speaker 5: On the zoom video, looked like you were eating like
Speaker 5: a pita pocket or something. I was like, it looks good,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 2: A dollar she's really going in for that.
Speaker 1: I need to share with you my latest obsession, and
Speaker 1: I need to know if anybody here is obsessed as well,
Speaker 1: because this is not something new, but it is new
Speaker 1: to my life. And I'm now currently involved with two
Speaker 1: different seasons of this show, and it is Survivor.
Speaker 2: I we have not gotten into Survivor, but we're not
Speaker 2: opposed to it. But I am shocked to hear this.
Speaker 1: I am shocked myself. I've never once even wanted to
Speaker 1: watch that show, Like, never wanted even sound a pan.
Speaker 2: I've mentioned before, and you've turned up your nose, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I've witnessed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like why would I watch that?
Speaker 6: You're yeah, oh oh, David.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So one of the kids was watching it the other
Speaker 1: day and I was working on my computer on the
Speaker 1: couch and so it was like on the background and
Speaker 1: I don't really care what they watched because I'm working. Right,
Speaker 1: So he's watching one of the seasons of Survivors on Netflix.
Speaker 1: It was like old school, and I find myself being
Speaker 1: totally tickled.
Speaker 3: By it, like I was glued to the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 1: And so it kind of we all kind of started
Speaker 1: getting into it, and it kind of became like our
Speaker 1: new family show, Like we have shows that we watched
Speaker 1: together at night before we go to sleep, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the kids left yesterday or the day before to
Speaker 1: go to their mom's house, and I literally turned to
Speaker 1: Robbie and I'm like, I want to watch more Survivor,
Speaker 1: and he was like, we can't watch the season, Like
Speaker 1: we can't watch without them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I started a new one, a whole new season
Speaker 7: for just the two of us.
Speaker 1: So now I've invested in two different seasons and I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: I want to, like I want to be a Survivor
Speaker 1: contestant for Halloween.
Speaker 3: I'm like so obsessed with the show.
Speaker 4: Wow, A specific one.
Speaker 3: A generic one, like my own spin on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this is the gateway into you
Speaker 2: being an amazing race viewer.
Speaker 1: So interesting that you bring that up because Robbie, when
Speaker 1: we were watching Survivor with the kids, he'd put on
Speaker 1: amazing race for the two of us, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: really catching.
Speaker 3: Okay, quite as good as Survivor.
Speaker 2: Well I do disagree with that, but but you do
Speaker 2: love Special Forces, so you kind of like the rough
Speaker 2: and tough, like like grittiness of it. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I like imagine myself in there because
Speaker 1: I'm like, with my uti situation, i could never be
Speaker 1: on Survivor, Like I would constantly be like having to
Speaker 1: change my bottoms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would not get they would be like no,
Speaker 2: and your swimsuit might not dry properly, so that would
Speaker 2: be a real problem for you, real problem, and then
Speaker 2: someone might like steal it. You're dry ones one of
Speaker 2: the other teams.
Speaker 1: Right right, Like I'm like the the just from a
Speaker 1: ug I perspective, I can't do it, and then seeing
Speaker 1: all the bug bites that they get, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, they get eaten.
Speaker 3: A live out there.
Speaker 4: Plus you love being naked. You could be like Richard
Speaker 4: Hatch in season one, just walking around naked and annoying everyone.
Speaker 1: I dabbled into Naked and Afraid the show Naked.
Speaker 3: Dabbled you like that show.
Speaker 5: I love that show. I have watched it so many times.
Speaker 5: I am obsessed with they get in Afraid. It's so good.
Speaker 1: That one didn't tickle me as much as Survivor. So, Becka,
Speaker 1: will you watch it? Will you watch Survivor?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done to watch Survivor. Heley and I love
Speaker 2: like We've tried to watch a few seasons, but we
Speaker 2: we didn't like it as much as Amazing Grace. So
Speaker 2: what season real? Maybe you tell us what season you're
Speaker 2: watching and we can't.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, I'll find on Netflix.
Speaker 1: There's only two seasons on Netflix, so it's one of
Speaker 1: the two. Oh, okay, so that's the old one that
Speaker 1: we're watching. And then we just found out that they
Speaker 1: have all of them on one of the news streamings.
Speaker 4: Paramount Plus. So my wife and I are very in
Speaker 4: The Survivor and have been since its inception in the
Speaker 4: summer of two thousand. We got really sucked in that summer.
Speaker 4: We've watched ever since. We're way behind now because of life.
Speaker 4: We're on season forty two, so you know, we're not
Speaker 4: that far off, because I think forty five is about
Speaker 4: to start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for season forty five.
Speaker 2: That is so crazy that there's that many seasons. It's crazy,
Speaker 2: I mean having a TV show have that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it makes sense that, like, once you find
Speaker 2: a formula that works, you can just do it over
Speaker 2: and over and over again, same thing. It's like even
Speaker 2: The Bachelor. Sometimes it feels very tired because it feels
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, it feels a little different now,
Speaker 2: but it's as long as there's the same formula and
Speaker 2: they recast it with like the right characters, It's just
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 1: I will say, watching the old season and this new
Speaker 1: one back to back, it is interesting to see the difference,
Speaker 1: Like you totally and they like come up with new
Speaker 1: little spins and stuff, but I'm not quite sure what
Speaker 1: they mean. I'm like, what the heck does that mean?
Speaker 1: But I'm learning and I'm so into it.
Speaker 4: So randomly Netflix has season eighteen and season thirty two.
Speaker 4: I don't understand how these things work. I don't know
Speaker 4: why those two seasons would be on Netflix. Seems very
Speaker 4: random to me.
Speaker 3: We're probably eighteen then.
Speaker 4: Token sheens okay or co wrong. One is token sheens
Speaker 4: and one is co wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Okay, fair enough,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking it's eighteen.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think it's great. Welcome, Tanya, Welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This feels like you're you've really turned a new
Speaker 2: leaf with your You've really opened your mind to watching
Speaker 2: shows that you would never have watched before.
Speaker 3: It's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 2: Speaking of shows, and I talked about this last week
Speaker 2: on the podcast, but you are Charlotte from Sex and
Speaker 2: the City like it's it was. There was one episode
Speaker 2: where like every scene that Charlotte was in, I was like,
Speaker 2: you could that could be Tanya, And I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: blink and eye if she said that, Like, what's what
Speaker 2: were the things that we were specifically talking about? It was, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: It was when Charlotte decides she gets hired to start
Speaker 2: a job, and so she's telling her kids, She's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be at home anymore because I'm
Speaker 2: going to be working at the art gallery. And she
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna be like super upset and they're
Speaker 2: like okay, mom, great, like congrats, and she's like, are
Speaker 2: you are you gonna miss me? Like super? Tanya coded
Speaker 2: the whole episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah that does feel very mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but did you finished catching up on Summer Y Term? Pretty?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I've been so on TV because I was also like
Speaker 1: a little bit sick the week before I left, and
Speaker 1: so I've just been watching a lot of TV. I
Speaker 1: caught up on you. I caught up on Summer Return, Pretty.
Speaker 1: I caught up on Only Murders in the Building. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what else you got for me?
Speaker 2: You watch you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You don't watch you?
Speaker 2: No? What's so creepy?
Speaker 3: It's so creepy, but it's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I live in way too paranoid of
Speaker 2: a state of mind to watch a show like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is quite it is quite scary.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you're you're caught up on Summer Return, Pretty?
Speaker 2: You watch the finale?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's over it's over.
Speaker 2: What are your what were your thoughts on this season?
Speaker 1: If I get one more DM from somebody telling me
Speaker 1: that Connie for life.
Speaker 3: I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: Also, didn't read the books. Everybody keeps saying if you
Speaker 1: read the books. I'm like, I'm watching the show. I
Speaker 1: haven't read the books.
Speaker 2: I know everyone. I got a lot of that too.
Speaker 2: I will say the music selection, whoever's doing the music,
Speaker 2: they know how, they're massive, swifty. But also I don't
Speaker 2: even necessarily know if I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: that I sam Team Jeremiah. But I also felt very
Speaker 2: aggravated by Conrad because it's just so back and forth,
Speaker 2: and like people are messaging me when I posted this,
Speaker 2: they're like, you have to remember he just lost his
Speaker 2: mom a month ago, And I'm like, I get it,
Speaker 2: he's going through a lot, but like, just say, let
Speaker 2: her be and don't be messing with her back and
Speaker 2: forth so much, Like it makes it hard to feel
Speaker 2: bad for him because I'm like, just get it together,
Speaker 2: don't be with her.
Speaker 1: Right, And also so did Jeremiah. He also lost his
Speaker 1: mom a month ago.
Speaker 2: Right that he also lost his mom.
Speaker 1: Although I think that the show glazes over that. I
Speaker 1: feel like, for some reason, they say in the book
Speaker 1: they really dig in to that a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we're not really getting that with
Speaker 1: the TV show.
Speaker 2: With the with Susanna passing away, Yeah, yeah, that bugged
Speaker 2: me because it feels so it feels like such a
Speaker 2: story arc of the whole series was Susannah and what
Speaker 2: she meant to all the kids and how that was
Speaker 2: like the source of their upbringing and like why the
Speaker 2: house meant so much, and I feel like they just
Speaker 2: kind of glaze over it sometimes. But then I will
Speaker 2: say when Jeremiah and Belly at the very end and
Speaker 2: Exo by Beyonce started playing, I had been full chills.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I forgot about how good this
Speaker 2: song is. Yeah, and then Exile played right after, which
Speaker 2: was a suck, like a gut punch. But then so
Speaker 2: I saw a TikTok.
Speaker 1: And and they played oh bigger than the Whole Sky.
Speaker 2: During the Whole Sky, that was emotional. But I saw something.
Speaker 1: And snow on the beach an invisible string like this
Speaker 1: was It's like Taylor Haven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Taylor Haven of Taylor. But someone was like,
Speaker 2: I'm so annoyed that Jeremiah went to the volleyball camp, like, ew,
Speaker 2: why is he going? Like just go? And then someone
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but if Conrad did it, I'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 2: Conrad's so supportive, he's such a good by. And then
Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say about it, I felt so
Speaker 2: annoyed slash like confused why they ended it with this
Speaker 2: weird volleyball montage too. It's like it ends on belly
Speaker 2: playing volleyball or pretending to play volleyball. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was just kind of felt like chaotic and all
Speaker 2: over the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I obviously watched it,
Speaker 1: but I don't have high hopes for season three.
Speaker 2: I do have high hopes for season three, so I
Speaker 2: hope they come through. But you know what else I realized,
Speaker 2: I think I watched season one more as a binge
Speaker 2: as opposed to waiting weekly, and I think that made
Speaker 2: a difference for that show, because it was like, you
Speaker 2: wait a whole week, and then if the episode was disappointing,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you know, that felt like a letdown.
Speaker 2: As opposed to binging it you're like, all right on
Speaker 2: to the next one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I binged it still the same effect?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I wuch Hannah would chime in because she
Speaker 2: is a summary term pretty fanatic. I agree, I prefer binging.
Speaker 7: I wish that I didn't watch it every single week
Speaker 7: in that I waited until it was all out so
Speaker 7: I could have binged it. But if Tanya's saying it's
Speaker 7: the same effect, then I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hanna was like a very strong Conrad. He was everything
Speaker 2: And now, how do you feel?
Speaker 7: At the beginning of season two, I was kind of
Speaker 7: leaning towards team Jair, but then the last episode, I'm
Speaker 7: back on Team Conrad and I'm just really annoyed that
Speaker 7: they ended with the volleyball I don't care about the
Speaker 7: volleyball storyline. It was really irritating.
Speaker 2: I texted Anna and I go, I just know you
Speaker 2: would have the ax so bad with Steven Bella's brother.
Speaker 7: Physical cringe every time he came on the screen.
Speaker 2: He is my least favorite character, respectfully. I hate him.
Speaker 3: I feel like Moore Taylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just if they're like, I actually think
Speaker 2: they're cute, Like I felt like they had chemistry, but
Speaker 2: I just felt like there was there was a lot
Speaker 2: more of them than I think I cared to watch
Speaker 2: or know about it.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of that this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to brought it what I gather
Speaker 2: from you. And maybe this is something that goes deeper
Speaker 2: than Summer I Turned Pretty. Is that you like to
Speaker 2: focus on someone who is hurting or needs to be
Speaker 2: fixed and needs support. But once they feel stable and
Speaker 2: ready to command your team anyone else, then I say
Speaker 2: bye bye. I've done my work here. Yeah. I like
Speaker 2: to fix people. It's an issue. It's an issue, all right,
Speaker 2: And that goes even into your Summer I Turned Pretty fandom.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Okay, we.
Speaker 1: Are going bak that Jeremiah only liked Belly when the
Speaker 1: summer she turned pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone says he only likes Belly when she got
Speaker 2: pretty or whatever that I guess grew up. And that
Speaker 2: con Conrad has loved like always loved her like through
Speaker 2: all her phases. So we're gonna take a break and
Speaker 2: we will be right back with emails. All right, we
Speaker 2: are back, Mark, are you ready to take it away
Speaker 2: on the emails?
Speaker 4: Well, it would be my pleasure. This is from Elena,
Speaker 4: she says, on the heels of you both attending the
Speaker 4: Eras tour, I have a thought provoking tailor question for you.
Speaker 4: What are three songs of hers that could have lived
Speaker 4: in a different era than it was released? For example,
Speaker 4: I know places from that ten eighty nine could have
Speaker 4: been on reputation and no one will beat and I
Speaker 4: this is funny because my daughter and her friend were
Speaker 4: talking about this in the car yesterday. They were saying,
Speaker 4: New Year's Day is not a reputation song. New Year's
Speaker 4: Day should be on folklore. Like they were going back
Speaker 4: and forth with all these songs that don't match their era.
Speaker 2: See. I felt like New Year's Day was the perfect
Speaker 2: inter reputation because it was like so gentle and soft,
Speaker 2: as if like this is what y'all see, This is
Speaker 2: my reputation, but this is who I am. So but
Speaker 2: I get what they're saying. I would like to say,
Speaker 2: maybe Cruel Summer could have been nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: True, Oh yeah, I forget that's on Lover. I also
Speaker 1: feel like the Last Great American Dynasty could have been
Speaker 1: on Lover.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmmm.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I I see that so much
Speaker 2: as that like.
Speaker 1: Folklore, like Mad Woman, like Epiphany, like My Tears, Ricochet.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying no, I don't disagree that it could
Speaker 2: be on another album. I just don't know if it
Speaker 2: would be Love Lover.
Speaker 3: What about Invisible String?
Speaker 2: Invisible String could have been a no Invisible Strings, so folklore,
Speaker 2: it's so full courts in a good ways hard. I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking of the songs that I love that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's hard because all her old music, like Red Speak now,
Speaker 2: all of those feel like they belong in that. And
Speaker 2: then when she switched to pop like in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: then like all of those from nineteen eighty nine, I
Speaker 2: feel like those could be like kind of interchangeable.
Speaker 3: Maybe snow on the beach or.
Speaker 4: What what about it you have to pick a different era,
Speaker 4: could be Lover?
Speaker 2: Okay, are you only focusing on what could be on
Speaker 2: Lover or like that.
Speaker 3: I've been really listening to Lover a lot lately.
Speaker 2: Because like I could see, I could see like a.
Speaker 3: Karma on reputation.
Speaker 4: Oh that was another one. They said, They said bad
Speaker 4: Blood should have been a reputation. M That makes some
Speaker 4: sense to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I get that. I was also thinking
Speaker 2: we're never getting back together, but as like more of
Speaker 2: a like like putting that on reputation but with a
Speaker 2: different not the country.
Speaker 3: Sound on reputation or laborate.
Speaker 2: What about Labyrinth on nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 1: Were Labyrinth on nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was an original idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, first time ever hearing that well in a
Speaker 1: gelante's own reputation.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's fun. I like that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: Think more about that, all right.
Speaker 4: This is from Campbell. Oh, Campbell's going through a trigger event,
Speaker 4: so switching gears. She'll try to keep it brief here.
Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I have been dating about six months.
Speaker 4: Fell really hard for each other, but in a healthy
Speaker 4: grown up relationship. Boy, I'm thirty one, he's twenty eight,
Speaker 4: not a whirlwind romance that would fizzle out. We knew
Speaker 4: we loved each other early on, but held on, held
Speaker 4: off saying it for a couple of months. It's been
Speaker 4: great and healthy. We don't spend every waking moment together.
Speaker 4: We have our own lives and add value to each other's. Becca.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping you can shed some light on this because
Speaker 4: I know Haley is the same. He's obsessed with work.
Speaker 4: He takes so much pride to what he does and
Speaker 4: has work on the brain a lot. It really hasn't
Speaker 4: been a problem. It's honestly one of the things I
Speaker 4: love about him. He's inspired me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4: But recently it's gotten to be too much for him,
Speaker 4: and you just can't figure out how to balance things.
Speaker 4: I don't see it as a problem. He doesn't work constantly.
Speaker 4: He's just always thinking about it and can't turn it
Speaker 4: off when we're together. He says. He came to be
Speaker 4: really upset over the weekend, saying I deserve so much better.
Speaker 4: He doesn't deserve me. He loves and cares about me
Speaker 4: so much, but he can't figure out why he can't
Speaker 4: turn it off and be a better boyfriend. He has
Speaker 4: asked for time and space so he can work on
Speaker 4: himself and figure out how to balance things better. I
Speaker 4: am absolutely devastated, and I don't know what to do
Speaker 4: or what this means for us, Tanya. When you went
Speaker 4: through your trigger event, were we able to stay hopeful
Speaker 4: that he would get back together at some point or
Speaker 4: was it better to move forward without that hope. My
Speaker 4: heart hurts so much thinking about this being the end
Speaker 4: for us. Any and all advice encouragement you can give
Speaker 4: me would appreciate so much. First of all, the name
Speaker 4: Campbell is beautiful and you should be proud of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really great name. I love that name.
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry you're going through through this. I I
Speaker 2: feel like Tanya will have a better answer as far
Speaker 2: as like how to get through the trigger event aspect
Speaker 2: of it. But I think the difference, Like Haley is
Speaker 2: so passionate and loves work so much, and there's been
Speaker 2: so many conversations about that in terms of our relationship,
Speaker 2: but one thing she is able to do is, like
Speaker 2: when we said a time where it's like just about
Speaker 2: us and like us having intentional focus time on each other,
Speaker 2: she is able to turn that part of her brain
Speaker 2: off and focus on what we're doing and like have
Speaker 2: quality time. So that part I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: how to hint, like tell you, I think he needs
Speaker 2: to be able to get to a place where, like
Speaker 2: even if it's doing something where he's shutting off his
Speaker 2: phone or his computer and he's even doing like like
Speaker 2: breath work or something where he can turn that part
Speaker 2: of his brain off, because even outside of the relationship aspect,
Speaker 2: it's not healthy to like never be to shut your
Speaker 2: brain off from work. I think, like even outside of you,
Speaker 2: he needs to find a way to do that for
Speaker 2: his own self and help. But I'll let Tanya take
Speaker 2: it away with the trigger of it.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I am very sorry that you're going through this,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't even know if my advice is
Speaker 1: the best or the most healthy, because, uh I when
Speaker 1: I went through my trigger event, I never felt like
Speaker 1: it was over. Like I felt like everybody would ask me,
Speaker 1: like what happened, and I'm like, I don't understand, because
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be with this guy.
Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm supposed to be with this guy.
Speaker 1: I never really understood it because I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I didn't. I can't fully appreciate
Speaker 1: where he was coming from because I've never experienced that
Speaker 1: before and I don't have kids of my own, you know. So,
Speaker 1: But I will say, may I had friends around me
Speaker 1: that were like, do not respond to him, do not
Speaker 1: let him have his cake and eat it too. So
Speaker 1: I just like cold turkeyed him. And I think because
Speaker 1: I did that, he thought I had moved on, and
Speaker 1: so that's when he was like it like freaked him out.
Speaker 1: Not trying to say play games, but take that for
Speaker 1: what it's worth.
Speaker 3: I didn't move on.
Speaker 4: That's healthiest.
Speaker 1: I didn't move on. Like what I'm saying is like
Speaker 1: actually mentally didn't move on. And I was still saying,
Speaker 1: like this is my guy, like I'm meant to be
Speaker 1: with him, But because I cut him cold turkey, I
Speaker 1: think he believed that I had moved on and then
Speaker 1: and then he got like freaked out.
Speaker 2: But I think that eventually with time, if if he
Speaker 2: hadn't reached back out and you never heard from him
Speaker 2: again or whatever, it was, like, I think this the
Speaker 2: only thing that you could have done at that point
Speaker 2: was to move on or even pretend to move on,
Speaker 2: you know, like right right, right, Like I think that
Speaker 2: I think that it's worth Campbell. I think it's worth
Speaker 2: having a conversation and saying like, I know you're going
Speaker 2: through this, and I want to support you and be
Speaker 2: there for you, but I don't feel like our story
Speaker 2: is over. But if you need this time, I want
Speaker 2: to give you what you need, but like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I need this from you, but I,
Speaker 2: you know, want to figure out how we can navigate
Speaker 2: it for both of us. But there's another part of
Speaker 2: me that thinks, if he needs the space and he's
Speaker 2: asking for it, like give it to him and let
Speaker 2: him be without you, and like live your life without him,
Speaker 2: even though it's gonna be hard. And if you're if
Speaker 2: it's supposed to, if you're supposed to come back to
Speaker 2: each other, I think you will. I mean, that's what
Speaker 2: happened with Tanya and Robbie.
Speaker 4: All Right, I gotta be controversial here.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no be controversial. We love that.
Speaker 4: I don't trust young single men because I'm a guy.
Speaker 4: I used to be a young single man. I wasn't trustworthy.
Speaker 4: I don't trust them. I think there's something else going
Speaker 4: on here. I don't think he throws away a relationship
Speaker 4: because he thinks about work too much. He needs to
Speaker 4: work on himself. Guys don't think that way. I think
Speaker 4: he's got his eye on somebody else. He doesn't want
Speaker 4: to cheat on you, and therefore he's putting you on
Speaker 4: the bench for a little while. He's not ending it
Speaker 4: because he wants to keep all of his options open.
Speaker 4: But that way he's not in a pole if he
Speaker 4: goes out with somebody else. I'm sorry. I hope that's
Speaker 4: not the case. I think there's more going on here,
Speaker 4: and I think the worst. I fear the worst.
Speaker 2: I don't completely disagree with you.
Speaker 4: Because look at his excuse. Look, she says, it's not
Speaker 4: like he's constantly obsessed with it. He doesn't work all
Speaker 4: the time. Like the evidence isn't there to back up
Speaker 4: what he is saying. Something is missing here.
Speaker 1: Maybe something's missing, but I don't think he necessarily has.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say because again I related to my situation.
Speaker 4: It wasn't about right that's true, that's true, but it
Speaker 4: also wasn't about his workaholic ways either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your situation was different, wasn't. And I would think
Speaker 2: if if you haven't made a big deal about it,
Speaker 2: if like she hasn't made a big deal about it,
Speaker 2: and then he's all of a sudden like I just
Speaker 2: can't be a good girlfriend to you. Like that does
Speaker 2: feel little suspicious, Like it'd be different if she was like,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm gitting enough and attention and
Speaker 2: he's like, well, I don't think I can give that
Speaker 2: to you because I'm focused on my career whatever. So
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be able to give it
Speaker 2: to you. But it doesn't sound like that's really the situation.
Speaker 4: He needs time to figure things out. What he's trying
Speaker 4: to figure out is if he wants to be with
Speaker 4: you for the rest of his life. Maybe there's somebody else,
Speaker 4: maybe there's not. Maybe he's just getting cold feet because
Speaker 4: you guys are getting awful serious and he's not ready
Speaker 4: for that. I don't know what it is, but he's
Speaker 4: trying to figure this out. It has nothing to do
Speaker 4: with him working too much, in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So our advice is to it's gonna hurt, it's not
Speaker 2: gonna feel good, and you can cry it out, and
Speaker 2: you know, keep yourself busy, but give him the space
Speaker 2: that he's asking for. And you do you is that
Speaker 2: our advice.
Speaker 4: You gotta it's the healthiest thing. You gotta move on.
Speaker 4: You gotta act like this is a break up and
Speaker 4: live your life. If you if you stand limbo forever,
Speaker 4: it's you're hurting yourself and it doesn't do anybody any good.
Speaker 4: Go out with other people, spend time with your friends,
Speaker 4: work on yourself, do whatever you gotta do to move
Speaker 4: past him. If he comes crawling back to you. Then
Speaker 4: you have a decision to make. But until that happens,
Speaker 4: you don't have a choice. Pining over him isn't gonna
Speaker 4: do anybody any good. Work on yourself.
Speaker 2: Focus on you, Yeah, Campbell, you do you.
Speaker 1: I remember I did go on one FaceTime date though,
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 4: I do remember that. Yes, and you're just talked about it.
Speaker 2: I've talked about your exes the whole time.
Speaker 1: We both talked about our axes the whole time. And
Speaker 1: I still follow this guy on Instagram and he is married,
Speaker 1: he got back with his ex. We both got back
Speaker 1: with our exes, and he is now married to his
Speaker 1: ex and they're about to have a baby.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, what.
Speaker 1: Point do I stop following this guy? Like I literally
Speaker 1: went on one day with him, and I still follow
Speaker 1: him on Instagram. But it's funny to see it's so credy, like.
Speaker 4: It's the mutual happy ending here. It's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe as soon as you you get engaged and you're married,
Speaker 2: then you unfollow. It's like you both completed the course.
Speaker 4: Or invite him for your wedding. Full circle moment.
Speaker 1: No, okay, feels unnecessarily, you know, taking up space that
Speaker 1: I need.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: We love you guys.
Speaker 3: Bye, Love me,