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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutt. Hey, Hey, while you're sitting, I got a

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Speaker 2: question for you. Do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do know what's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I knew you would this one.

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Speaker 3: We gotta take a little whining path here. Oh no, okay,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not the start of this. One of my

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Speaker 3: current favorite songs is A and W by Your Girl

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Speaker 3: master work and I love it of the King. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so w Right is the name of the song. Ann

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Speaker 3: w is also in a totally unrelated thing, the name

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Speaker 3: of a fast food restaurant.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a famous root beer maker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stands for awesome and wahboy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So williams Anson and Williams root Beers. So they do

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Speaker 3: a root beer which you can buy in the store.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: They also have a restaurant.

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Speaker 2: They have a cream soda to It's good.

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Speaker 3: There's that too.

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Speaker 2: I have to go to the restaurant that was my preferred,

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Speaker 2: like my family's like, let's go to the d the

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Speaker 2: dairy Queen.

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Speaker 3: But I think book Thief, the guy who was in

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Speaker 3: the Central Valley. Yeah, okay, big fan. Yeah, so we've established.

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Speaker 4: You like Fosters freeze, I like, and I love dietes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we've established that were clear, and we've established

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Speaker 3: that A and W is a great song, Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much. You also like? Okay, so we're talking about

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Speaker 3: what we would order a A and W. A yes,

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Speaker 3: and you like fried fish sandwiches. I do like So

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Speaker 3: A and W. They've got a quarter pound cod sandwich

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Speaker 3: and it's apparently very good. It looks good and so anyway,

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Speaker 3: I think you'd enjoy it all right, But if you

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Speaker 3: wanted it to, like, what if you wanted that forever?

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Speaker 2: What it wanted?

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Speaker 3: What for a fish sandwich from A and W forever?

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Speaker 2: How is this like a Twinkie fish sandwich? What kind

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Speaker 2: of preservatives have we put in a fish sandwich?

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that they have. They have a

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Speaker 3: partnership with life jab I gotcha why And so it's

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Speaker 3: this partnership with life gem.

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Speaker 2: It's they made They make the rings, right.

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Speaker 3: They make lab grown diamonds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll turn your grandma into a diamond.

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Speaker 3: Well, so they'll also turn a fish sandwich into a diamond.

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Speaker 3: And this is real, This is real, folks, people of Earth.

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Speaker 2: If we started with grandma, now we're down to fish.

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Speaker 3: Sandwich, so check it out. So it says that this

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Speaker 3: unprecedented piece of jewelry made was made in partnership with

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Speaker 3: Life Gem by extracting carbon from the cremated remains of

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Speaker 3: a half dozen A and W quarter pound cod sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: They just threw some sandwiches into crimial sixer of cod

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Speaker 3: sandwich in the crematorium. The carbon was then placed in

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Speaker 3: a machine that mimics the heat and pressure under the

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Speaker 3: Earth's crust for several months to form an actual diamond

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Speaker 3: that was then person ically cut and fitted into a

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Speaker 3: unique setting.

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Speaker 2: Does it have a color, because it's all yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of or orange like amberish, and so you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's a chocolate diamond.

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Speaker 3: You had to enter into this. It's a fish diamond.

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Speaker 2: Fish to enter you think of a fish that has

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Speaker 2: no idea it's been turned into a diamond. Is out there.

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Speaker 3: Fish cut and exactly it's like off the Massachusetts Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, I got caught. Now this sucks.

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Speaker 3: It goes into a factory where someone's also getting like

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Speaker 3: a thumb lopped off while they're trying to gut the fish.

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Speaker 3: And so then yeah, then it winds up in someone's gullet.

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Speaker 2: Well you know it avoids that. Yeah, and then with

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Speaker 2: seventeen of its other buddies, gets turned into and then.

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Speaker 3: It's on my finger.

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Speaker 2: Put a ring on it.

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Speaker 3: So you can't buy it. Money can't buy fish.

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Speaker 2: How do I have to enter in?

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Speaker 3: And it was a Valentine's Day thing, but like that said,

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Speaker 3: I know I should have entered you so that you could,

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Speaker 3: you know, give a fish diamond to your special someone,

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Speaker 3: but it's you know, there's more they could also they

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Speaker 3: had other exquisite jewelry made from anw's All American menu items.

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Speaker 3: There's more, yeah, and I'm having trouble finding it because

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Speaker 3: I think after Valentine's Day they were like, ah, sot it,

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Speaker 3: We're not going to do anything this website.

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Speaker 2: Cancel the matched earring set.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So they did want to point out that the

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Speaker 3: Rudy's Mug Club coupon for Bogo quarter pound or cod sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: You love that word godly, I can't stand it. Bogo Doorbuster.

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Speaker 3: Those are the two like marketing things. Maybe you want

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Speaker 3: to punch people in the throat, you could, you know,

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Speaker 3: you could do that on Valentine's Day. But again I'm

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Speaker 3: late to the game. So there's plenty of fish in

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Speaker 3: the sea, they say, and insummation.

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Speaker 2: This really lowers the value of my grandmother being turned

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Speaker 2: into Ashley has now turned into a diamond drink. Because now,

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Speaker 2: on my other hand, I've got one made of from

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Speaker 2: a fish sandwich. It used to be so special now.

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Speaker 3: Fish sandwich, pinky ring exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm bala baby. It's ridiculous, you know, it's also ridiculous. Yes, please, okay,

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Speaker 2: I got one, two, three, four, five, six words for you.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: How journalists write about women outlaws?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this ridiculous crime a podcast about absurd

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Speaker 2: and outrageous capers, heiss and cons. It's allways ninety nine

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Speaker 2: percent murder and one ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth. I was reading

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Speaker 2: about the nineteenth century, as one does if that's someone

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Speaker 2: is me, you know, I love the nineteenth century, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm always like Sherman Burns.

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Speaker 3: Some more of all the centuries, it's like one of

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Speaker 3: my top ones.

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Speaker 2: Definitely top three centuries. Now. Anyway, I was wondering about

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Speaker 2: outlaws who were women, right, So I hopped over to

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Speaker 2: your online playground, newspapers dot com.

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Speaker 3: I love newspapers dot com so much? You do so much?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there I am, and I like cold clock

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Speaker 2: any click and boom, up pops this name I'd never

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Speaker 2: heard of. Right, she had written with outlaws who I

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Speaker 2: had read a lot about. Okay, so I was kind

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Speaker 2: of surprised not to have ever come across her name before.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm curious. So and at this point

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Speaker 2: I'm ast officially intrigued. Elizabeth. So any clock one more

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Speaker 2: and then boom. I ventured deeper into newspapers dot com

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Speaker 2: little time machine, right, and get this. I found this

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Speaker 2: outlaw was world famous?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it? Puff Drella Murgatroyd.

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Speaker 2: No, puff Trella Murgatroyd, the first or the second, the

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Speaker 2: younger or the elder. But they were writing about this

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Speaker 2: female outlaw in the newspapers in New Zealand and she

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Speaker 2: wasn't from New Zealand in Australia. Really wait, there's more, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I also found that there was another world famous outlaw

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Speaker 2: who was also a woman, and that she was often

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Speaker 2: favorably compared to this first one that I discovered.

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Speaker 3: And they're not well known names.

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Speaker 2: The boom, Yes, I found not one, but two outlaws

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Speaker 2: wow women, and now today I'd like to tell you

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Speaker 2: about both of them. Yes, all right, so Elizabeth, you

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Speaker 2: in the mood to hear about the outlaw Dora Cox. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I am the Highway woman, Barbara Daniela, Yes, all right.

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Speaker 2: First up, the outlaw Dora Cox, right, the American. Now,

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Speaker 2: remember how I said up top, it's often ridiculous how

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Speaker 2: male journalists write about women correct who are outlaws In

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Speaker 2: this case, well, this is a taste of how the

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Speaker 2: contemporary newspapers wrote about our first outlaw. And I quote

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Speaker 2: Dora Coxy Oklahoma female tough knocks all the poetry and

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Speaker 2: romance out of her story by being as ugly as

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Speaker 2: she is wicked. Dora should adorn her person with something

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Speaker 2: prettier than cartridge belts, like whoah, you wanted photo pal.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is you can just imagine these you know,

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Speaker 3: adonices exactly writing this stuff, and you know you're guaranteed

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Speaker 3: to see like a picture of her and be like,

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Speaker 3: what's I don't see the issue she's you know, she's

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Speaker 3: just a ginger.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here now? But honestly and interestingly,

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Speaker 2: other writers they went the exact opposite direction when writing

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Speaker 2: about old Dora Cox. Now, this is from the November eighth,

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Speaker 2: nineteen hundred edition of the Evansville Journal, and I quote

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Speaker 2: Dora Cox is about thirty years old. Now. She is

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Speaker 2: a slender woman with chestnut hair and a pair of big,

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Speaker 2: innocent blue eyes. They look as mild and sweet tempered

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Speaker 2: as a child's. She can ride like an Indian and

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Speaker 2: shoot like buffalo Bill. You see, the writers they really

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Speaker 2: can't decide is she hot? Is she homely?

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Speaker 3: We've seen that before though, like Big Bertha. Some of

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Speaker 3: them were like, oh good God, and others are like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I would Yeah, It's I don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: you know, they want to sell papers. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyway, these folks, they can all agree that in

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Speaker 2: the autumn of eighteen ninety eight, old Dora Cox came

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Speaker 2: into town and I catch and fit. See the December

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Speaker 2: which we will be hearing a lot from, wrote that

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Speaker 2: Dora Cox was quote riding bare back on a fleet

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Speaker 2: roan horse whose sides were covered with foam, with her

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Speaker 2: bare feet protruding below an abbreviated skirt which was in

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Speaker 2: a dilapidated condition.

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Speaker 3: Oh, an abbreviated skirt.

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Speaker 2: Riding a mini skirt right in their fashion police suit

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Speaker 2: and a dilapidated condition. She couldn't wear that to church now.

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Speaker 2: The that's other paper, the Cheyenne Sunbeam. Side note, what

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Speaker 2: a great name for a newspaper, right, yeah, Cheyenne Sunbeam.

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Speaker 3: I've been writing for the Sunbeam three years.

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Speaker 2: Now, December ninth, eighteen ninety eight edition. I think you

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Speaker 2: remember this one well.

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Speaker 4: It was the great year you did composition on that one.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic weather pro The Cheyenne Sunbeam.

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Speaker 2: The newspaper reporter was more fashion minded, and they gave

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Speaker 2: us a more colorful description of this outlaw's outfit. And

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Speaker 2: I quote, when captured, Dori Cox was riding bareback, barefooted,

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Speaker 2: wore a red mother Hubbard and a man's jumper, and

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Speaker 2: had a cartridge belt buckled around her.

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Speaker 3: Cute.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's solf focused on her fits, right, Oh, the same writer.

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Speaker 2: He also decided he would also comment on her beauty,

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Speaker 2: because you know, that's just the thing you do. So

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Speaker 2: and I quote she wears her hair short and unlike

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Speaker 2: the traditional female outlaw, she is neither pretty nor prepossessing,

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Speaker 2: but it's just as hardened and rough as it would

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Speaker 2: be possible for a woman to become.

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Speaker 3: The traditional female outlaws ex hubba hubba model.

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Speaker 5: What heck?

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Speaker 2: This is like the America Ferrara speech from the Barbie movie.

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Speaker 2: The journalist wants female outlaws because clearly they're fun to

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Speaker 2: write about, but she should be attractive too, and she's

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Speaker 2: too pretty, then no one will take the woman outlaws seriously,

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Speaker 2: and then she's have to blast so many.

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Speaker 6: She should be and ready, but she should also not

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Speaker 6: be too mesked exactly because you know she's not tending

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Speaker 6: to her looks out on the prairie, then you know

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Speaker 6: she's not making sure her gun belt matches her mothered hubbard.

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Speaker 3: They say she's wearing like men's jumper. It's a sweater,

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Speaker 3: I would assume, and like, I'm sorry, but there's nothing

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Speaker 3: better than an oversized fisherman's sweater exactly a fashion of

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 2: You love that, right, I do? Actually they also they

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Speaker 2: kind of ignored that she was wearing like a sensible

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Speaker 2: some nineteenth century Tarantinos are like, oh, look at her feet, right,

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Speaker 3: The ground right exactly, she probably has a pair like

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Speaker 2: For the weekend. There's just no winning for a woman

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Speaker 3: Smile, honey, smiles exactly.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, back to Toro Cox. In the May twi, eighteen

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Speaker 2: Making there's like serial killers on the prairie, and there's

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Speaker 3: By foot I saw the bottoms of her feet.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't even have long hair. Whereas the society's going. Now,

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Speaker 2: Dora Cox was as an outlaw right the Bruce Harold

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Speaker 3: And there, He's like, they kill, so that makes them

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Dora Cox, she's arrested ten times, right, every

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Speaker 2: She had at least twenty known aliases. She was known

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Speaker 2: No one knew her real name, as the gay Lord

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Speaker 3: Is, so no one ever finds out shoo.

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Speaker 2: She's like a Daoist mystery. Those who know don't say,

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Speaker 2: and those who say don't know. Even her age was estimated.

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Speaker 2: this misguided outlaw, she had gone bad. We do know

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Speaker 2: that much for certain, right, But what precipitated her fall

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Speaker 3: I would love to know.

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Speaker 2: As the gay Lord Harold reported, and I quote in

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Speaker 2: Anyway, And as a guy, I gotta say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I think we have the species have

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Speaker 2: I mean, like honestly, yeah, like for like a week

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do that, and people have called me tough.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, you you could totally beat me arm wrestling, like, yes.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, But there's no way I could take a week

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Speaker 2: I'd just be complaining, like I'd be all pissed off.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's like it's Toddler energy, right, just like

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Speaker 2: I'm mad, Like these things are my body you're making.

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Speaker 3: That's also one of the things that's so hard is

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Speaker 2: Can we see when men don't get their way? For

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Speaker 3: Go not beer and they start crying and then it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you gotta yes in my definition, I like you

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Speaker 2: Anyway, where was I the outlaw to our cocks? You

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Speaker 2: ever heard of the name Bellistar?

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Speaker 2: So there's a notorious outlaw. She rode with the Dalton Boys.

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Speaker 2: Also another gang called the Bill Cook Gang. And now

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Speaker 2: you know who else wrote with the Bill Cook Gang. No,

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Speaker 2: you may not remember, but you know this cat's name. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but let's take a break, Elizabeth. Then after this I

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Speaker 2: next for the outlaw Dori Cox. All right, Elizabeth, where

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Speaker 3: Gonna tell me who rode with the various gangs?

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Speaker 2: Right? The Bill Cook Gang? Yes, with the gidda up

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Speaker 7: Okay, so this is not a test, Elizabeth, but I

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a hind I was gonna say.

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Speaker 5: Is.

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Speaker 3: He featured in the award winning podcast cast Black Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: hosted by.

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Speaker 2: Oh Me Yes, Yes that's right, Elizabeth Cherokee Bill.

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Speaker 3: I love Cherokee Bill. It was a great episode. Listen.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not just saying this, but if you haven't

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And I mean I wouldn't I just wouldn't tell anyone

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Speaker 2: Didn't like it, So like, yeah, he didn't think.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even say that, so you know, you know

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Speaker 3: it's for real, I do. Yeah, Cherokee Bill, dude, he's

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Speaker 2: You remember his buddy, the Verdigree Kid. Yes, right, okay,

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Speaker 3: Of names, I want a name the Verdigree Kid. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to tell you a story of Cherokee Bill,

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Speaker 2: the Verdigree Kid, and Dora Cox and the Bill Cook

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Speaker 2: Gang all evading a posse together, but sadly, I could

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Speaker 2: do have some accounts of Doricocks on her own. You

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Speaker 2: Lord Harold and I quote evening in the fall of

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Speaker 2: four persons on horses appeared at the door of the

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Speaker 2: Three of the parties were Dynamite, Dick, and Cripple Creek.

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Speaker 2: Now it makes it sound like Reverend Barry went to

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Speaker 3: But you just pulled me off to the side in

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Speaker 3: imagining on Parks and Recreation all of the murals of

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Speaker 2: But you love that show that you've probably never never

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so, and what was it?

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Speaker 2: Dynamite, Dynamite Dick, and Cripple Creek some more great names.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we're in name country.

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Speaker 3: You and I talk a lot about like if you

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So the eighteen eighties is what I recommend, having read

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Speaker 2: live by traditions, Elizabeth. Anyway, back to my story as like,

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Speaker 2: others held up the bank. The fourth person, it is believed,

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Speaker 2: So what did this force them do? Well, they robbed

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Speaker 2: the bank, right, and then for good measure, they take

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Speaker 2: them on the horse with Dora Cox, right, She's like,

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Speaker 2: four outlaws they fled the scene right and back to

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Speaker 2: of the band It's, kept appealing to the pursuers not

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Speaker 2: and allowed to walk back to Pawnee. Wow, now, they

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Speaker 3: I think that's why the chase didn't go totally.

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Speaker 2: right back to the Gay Lord Harold. Her usual methods

434
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: of procuring her freedom was to make the jailers fall

435
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: in love with her. It is said that she always

436
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 2: succeeded in making them love her, and that the jailers

437
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: halfway admit it by saying that she hypnotized them. In

438
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: either event, the result has been the same. Dora escaped.

439
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's love and there's lust.

440
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Exactly.

441
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: I don't think they fell in love with her.

442
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: She's not doing bad for someone who is as tough

443
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: as Prairie can make you, right. Yeah, and apparently she's

444
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: as slippery as a pair of hogs fighting in a

445
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: bubble bell. I mean, he just gotta love this girl anyway.

446
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: October thirteenth, eighteen ninety eight, the Lincoln Journal Star reported

447
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: that Dora Cox had escaped again, and I quote a

448
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 2: few days she visited her old haunts east of Perry

449
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: in company with a man, and the officers got word

450
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 2: of her whereabouts. Right, So now all these people are

451
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: on a manhunt for the fashion plate Dora Cox. Right

452
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: to the sheriff, his deputies. They get the word she's

453
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: back in the county, and they were like, sure, We've

454
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: tried ten times to capture this woman, and we failed

455
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: every time. But this time, this time, guys, it's gonna

456
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: be different. Now back to the reports from the Gay

457
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: Lord Harold in this December twenty second, eighteen ninety eight edition.

458
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: As soon as the officers received word that Dora Cox

459
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: was in the neighborhood, they went at once to her

460
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: stopping place. Dora received word of their coming and left

461
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: the place in such haste that she was barefooted and bareheaded,

462
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: but the officers not very far behind her. Then came

463
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting chases ever seen. So now

464
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: we got her once again barefoot.

465
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: She I love that she's just not about the shoe. No, no,

466
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 3: she's just about hookworm exactly.

467
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: Ring worm, hookworm? What kind of worms you got in

468
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: this country? So I remember also that Dori Cox can't

469
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: quote ride like an Indian and shoot like buffalo bill, right,

470
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: So this is not gonna be your like regular posse chain.

471
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: This one lasted for a full day and a half.

472
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: She's ranging on her territory, Elizabeth. Yeah, Dora led them

473
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: on a merry chase through swamps and thickets and in

474
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: and out of timber, over hills and through rivers. Sometimes

475
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: they were close to her and sometimes they were not.

476
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: But all the time the pursuers were determined that this

477
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: time she should not escape them. So after this full

478
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: day and a half of choking on her trail dust, right,

479
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: they finally catch up to Dora Cox. Nobody's sleeping the

480
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: whole time.

481
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: One's like timeout. Let's just say thirty.

482
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Six hours hard riding saddlesres all held every bone she's

483
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: got a right down the leg like their surfing. Right.

484
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: So in a town called Earlsborrow, they finally catch up

485
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: to her, right, But after this comes a hell of

486
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: a firefight, all while in hot pursuit. Like that's before

487
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: they get caught. And I quote, before they caught up

488
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: to her, Dora's rifle I'd become useless as the result

489
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: of a fall off her horse, that she could not

490
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: use it. Nevertheless, when the officers approached her, she leveled

491
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: her rifle at them and warned them that to approach

492
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: her meant to die. All but one man stopped. So

493
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: what do you think happened to that one fearless man, Elizabeth.

494
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't get shock because the rifles broke.

495
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are a student of newspapers. Yeah, So this dude,

496
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: wild as he was, he basically calls her bluff out right,

497
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: he starts walking towards her. You know, his boots are

498
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: scratching earth, and he's like, I hope this is not

499
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: my last moments, and like quote, he walked boldly forward.

500
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: And when the others saw that she could not shoot,

501
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: they went up to her, and she was once more

502
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: a prisoner. So her bluff failed right after that Door

503
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: Cox captured, locked up, kept under key and guards. And

504
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: as I said earlier, not everyone so disparaging in how

505
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: they wrote about Dora Cox right, It's interesting to see

506
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: the two different perceptions of her. As The Independent in

507
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: New South Wales wrote, Doric Cox laughs at locksmiths and

508
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: it is said the prison has not yet been built

509
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: which could hold f along. There's a magic in the

510
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: gale which so far no warden it's been able to resist.

511
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: There are a few crimes, from highway robbery to bog stealing,

512
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: which Door has not committed. The stories have had Darren.

513
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Her wild fights for safety are narrow escapes from capturing death,

514
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: a more thriller and then the most sensational fiction. And yet,

515
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: apart from her passion for Plunda, Dora Cox has many

516
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: equalities which endear her to her friends. She has described

517
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: as gentle, generous to a fault, the most loyal of friends,

518
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: and the possessor of a tender heart. So this tender

519
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: hearted girl, tough outlaw with a tender heart, that my

520
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: friend is our girl, Dora Cox.

521
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: That's like an Australian newspaper. It's like hero of the

522
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: week exactly.

523
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: They just praise her. So in September eleventh, nineteen oh three,

524
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: a newspaper called The Byron Republican rand a story with

525
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: the headline girl Bandit tells her own story. Now, this

526
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: newspaper story was reputedly written by Dora Cox, but more

527
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: likely is written by a reporter who has basically scored

528
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: a jailhouse interview.

529
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: Right, So, I mean it's like maybe not even that.

530
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: Is she gonna argue, She's gonna sue.

531
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: Well, you can, you can kind of tell it's her, right.

532
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: So let's hear from the outlaw Dora Cox in her

533
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: own words. They say I'm an outlaw. They say I'm

534
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: a thief, a leader of train robbers, horse thieves and murderers. Well,

535
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't care about that. But they say something else,

536
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: and I do care about that. They say I am cruel.

537
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: They say I have no womanly instinct. That is a lie.

538
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: I am not cruel. And even though I have lived

539
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: my life on the prairie and in hard camps, I

540
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: have a woman's heart. She comes at them right now.

541
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: I love a door. Cox say, y'all think a woman

542
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: can't hang out in the West. I'm hard as a coffin.

543
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Nail and still have a woman's heart the back of

544
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: my girl, Doric Cocks right. I commenced by explaining this

545
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: so that you who read this may understand me better.

546
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: I have never been understood by anyone, not even my

547
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: own parents. That is the reason I am here today.

548
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: My parents died when I was very little. They left

549
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: me nothing. I had lived all my life on the plains.

550
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: I knew horses and cattle, and I knew nothing else. Naturally,

551
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: I turned to the cattle camps to earn a living.

552
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: That was when I was fourteen. I cooked, and sometimes

553
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: I helped the cowboys. Fourteen years old and she's on

554
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: her own in a camp full of hardened men, cowboys,

555
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: the guys that are even tearing about all this time,

556
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: and in.

557
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: A time where she already had I mean, even if

558
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: her parents hadn't died, she's got very limited, oh yeah,

559
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: prospects of what she can.

560
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: This is the necessities of a woman alone on the prairie.

561
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: So Dori Cock's like, okay, camp cook, that may be

562
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: my present. I'm fourteen years old, because she ain't gonna

563
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: be my future.

564
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Fourteen.

565
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: It was about a year to this that I commenced

566
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: the life that has brought me here. I was working

567
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: on a range in eastern Texas and there was a

568
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: pretty hard crowd of boys on the ranch and at

569
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: last I overheard a conversation. So, Dora, here's talk amongst

570
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: these ranch hands.

571
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: Right.

572
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: It turned out to actually be like Texas outlaws, like

573
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: bad men, right. And when Dora Cox heard this, she

574
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: was like, I want to end.

575
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So why not when you We've had a couple

576
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: of people on that we've talked about where it's like

577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: they're in a situation in their life where it's like

578
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: there's a fatalism to it, like how much worse can

579
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: it get?

580
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: So why not exactly just roll with it? Back to go,

581
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Dora Cox. They were planning to raid one evening and

582
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: I overheard the whole thing. In my excitement, I made

583
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: a little noise and they discovered me. I was seized,

584
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: and in half an hour I was galloping over the

585
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: range in the direction of the rendezvous with my arms

586
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: bound behind me. Oh so now she's a prisoner in

587
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: some kind of like great weird like wonder Woman bdsm thing, right,

588
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: And she'd heard too much at this point, right, so

589
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: she's grabbed by the outlaws. They tire her up, they

590
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: ride her hard over to the hideout, and when they

591
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: get there, they tell Dora Cox she has a choice

592
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: to make right so she could be their prisoner, or

593
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: she could be a member of the gang. There was

594
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: no third option.

595
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: That's that's an easy choice.

596
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Yes, she tells it, take your choice, little girl. One

597
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: of the outlaws said, I know you well enough to

598
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: know that if you take an oath to stand with us,

599
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: you'll do it like a man. Don't do it through

600
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: unless you want to. So Dora Cox she thinks about

601
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: her life for as a woman in a prairie town,

602
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: and she's like, that's not going to take me long

603
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 2: at all.

604
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: It was like a nanosecond decision. She's like, what the

605
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: process of asking to join the gang when they gave

606
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: her the choice.

607
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Yes, She's like, and I quote, what had I to

608
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: go back to? I knew no one would believe that

609
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: I had been forced to leave the ranch. I had

610
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: no house, no friends. The Martin boys and Simmons had

611
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: treated me more kindly than anyone else in the world.

612
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: In the morning, I told them I would stay. I

613
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: took the oath to be true to them, but I

614
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: stipulated that I should never be required to commit any crime.

615
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: In other words, I would never peach on the crowd,

616
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: but I would never take part in in the raids.

617
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: When she says peach, that's like nineteenth century Fife for snitch.

618
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

619
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: So the thing is, according to her account, she wasn't

620
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 2: an outlaw very long before it became official. I had

621
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: not been going with the gang two weeks when they

622
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: were surrounded by a posse and had to fight their

623
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: way out. I was captured. I had committed no crime,

624
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: yet I was pointed out as the most desperate woman

625
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: on the ranges. So what's the woman to do? Elizabeth

626
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: dorit Cox is nothing of her own and no one

627
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: to go to. Now what does she do?

628
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: I I don't know.

629
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: I made up my mind I would escape. A plumber

630
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: came into my cell to fix a water pipe. While

631
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: he was there, I slipped a monkey wrench out of

632
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: his tool bag. He left without discovering it, and before

633
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: morning I had wrenched the bars aside and was free,

634
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 2: all right, Right, So she didn't always have to make

635
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: the men fall in love. No, she can also count

636
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: on her own skills exactly, So boom that was just

637
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: one of her many escapes, but being free, being a

638
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: wanted woman was just the start of a new set

639
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: of problems for mcgirl Dora Cox. As she put it,

640
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: where did I go back to the camp? Of course,

641
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: it was not long before the old gang was together again.

642
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: So the old gang they break out for Old Mexico.

643
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh couldn't you How dope is that you get to

644
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: ride Old Mexico and you get to call it Old

645
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: Mexico anyway? They raided through Texas as well. How much

646
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: fun would that be? Taking stuff from Texans?

647
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: Love it?

648
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: I love that anyway, So do cocks. She recalled all

649
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: this as the quote stirring years and uh, in her

650
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: own words, half of the time posse's were on our trail,

651
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: but we fooled them time after time. Once we were

652
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: cornered and had to fight. Three of the boys were captured,

653
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: but Simmons and I escaped For years. I was compelled

654
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: to wear men's clothing as a disguise. After the fight,

655
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: we were pretty well broken up, and I went to

656
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: work on a cattle ranch as a cowboy. Someone recognized

657
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: me and I was captured, so she was able to

658
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: pass as a cowboy long enough to be captured there, right, yeah,

659
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: caught once again? What does Dori Cox do now? I

660
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: think you know the answer that Elizabeth did I try

661
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: to escape? Of course I did. So would you if

662
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: you saw a prison term facing you when the worst

663
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: crime you would committed was to defend your life when

664
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: a crowd of ambuscaded officers were shooting at you. Well,

665
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: I was caught, and here I am. That's about all

666
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I guess. So she kind of skipped over like seven

667
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: or eight other arrest But wouldn't you if you were

668
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: like telling your own story and like looking from some

669
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: clemency from the governor. Anyway, Dori Cox was prepared to

670
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: go all the way down the line for the only

671
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: people who were ever kind to her looked after her,

672
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: who happened to be a gang of outlaws, right whatever,

673
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: As she told the reporter, say, look here, I told

674
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: you I took an oath to stand by the boys.

675
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: There may be a five thousand dollars reward offered for

676
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: information that will lead to the captured Jack Simmons. There

677
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: may be one million. I don't care. But if that

678
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: sheriff thinks I'm gonna buy my freedom by selling Jacks,

679
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: he don't know Dora Cox. I'll die in prison before

680
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: I peach. Wow, Yes, Elizabeth, can I tell you how

681
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: much fun it was to discover the ballad of Dora Cocks.

682
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: It sounds incredible, lost forgotten sitting there in the newspapers

683
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma and Indian Territory. You make a great film

684
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: totally now. I remember I said, Doro Cox led to

685
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: a second outlaw who was a woman.

686
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

687
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: In the May twenty six, eighteen ninety nine edition of

688
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: The Bruce Harrold, I found a story about Dora Cox

689
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: that connected her to this other highway woman. And I quote,

690
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Dora has a prototype in southern Russia, a woman Barbara

691
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: Daniella by name, who is chief of a band of highwaymen.

692
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: But the resemblance is in calling only. They are both

693
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: thieves and outlaws. Beyond this, there is no similarity. Dori

694
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Cox is a wild course, ill mannered female thug. Barbara

695
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: Daniella is a woman of gentle birth, exquisite in tenderness

696
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: of manner, and a host of whom even her victims

697
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: delight to sing praises. She has a history, but declines

698
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: to reveal it.

699
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: There are a lot of elements to examine.

700
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: It, right, the fantasy's South Russia. Yes, like where Well,

701
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: the two women they're about the same age.

702
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Right, lady criminals y like look at the and they

703
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: list off all the ways that they're completely different.

704
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: From each other. But they're just like, well they both.

705
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Look at these two. It's trying to be the same.

706
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: So that's the same newspaper recorded. Barbara is now thirty

707
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 2: five years old. Ten years ago, she disappeared from her

708
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: home in the village of Banza in the government of

709
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: coute Just why she left the surrounding which she had

710
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: previously graced so charmingly, is not known. The secret is

711
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: securely locked up in her heart. Now, you know, you're

712
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: gonna notice something about how the press writes about Barbara

713
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: dan Yella. I remember what I said about Dori Cox

714
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: was judged by the newspaper writers. She was essentially deemed

715
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: not pretty enough to be a full curo. Right, Barbara

716
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Danielle is like a Barbie bandit, Right, she managed to

717
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: strike the perfect balance for the male newspaper writer. Yeah,

718
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: of course, she played perfectly into some bizarre fantasy of

719
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: being captured by a female bandit and held hostage. In

720
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: some light bdsmplay and then by an outlaw who happens

721
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: to be a woman.

722
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: She had like long fiery red locks.

723
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Practically, but not only that. The newspaper v I also

724
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: wrote about Barbara dan Yella like she was a new

725
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: text startup who is disrupting the outlaw industry. For ten years,

726
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: she has been the leader of a band of the

727
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: most polite, gentle and successful bandits who have ever turned

728
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: the Tsar's Highway into a thoroughfare. She has revolutionized highway robbery.

729
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: It is no longer necessary to use violence. Blood is

730
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: very seldom shed, never unnecessarily right, So, anyway you hear

731
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: that phrase the Tsar's Highway, I forgot to tell you

732
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: bor Daniello was doing all this in the Russian Empire.

733
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: You notice South Russia, right, yeah, yeah, So even though

734
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: she operated in the outlands, the bad lands, the remote

735
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: region of the Caucus Mountains, she made a name for

736
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: herself that rang up her fame all around the world.

737
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: The number of strong, able bodied men whom Barbara has

738
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: held up single handed and true road aged style is legion.

739
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes she likes to operate alone, and she always goes

740
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: heavily armed. Occasionally she meets with stubborn resistance from the

741
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: lords of creation, and she carries more than one wound

742
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: as evidence of her precarious calling. But she never comes

743
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: off second best.

744
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: So is this like she's like jumping silk roade people?

745
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah, it's exactly it like wow, eighteen ninety eight,

746
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety nine, exact time. Right, So she apparently may

747
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: have been tough for them a girl Dora Cox. However,

748
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: as The Independent, the New South Wales version of the

749
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: paper reported on these possible cris and arrivals. But even

750
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: the captive aid and Barbara has a formidable rival in

751
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: dor Cox, who was described as quote the most daring

752
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: and skillful highwaymen in America.

753
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: Wait, so it was American papers and Australia.

754
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: All writing about these women compared to women. Yes, they're

755
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: just like this is great, we love this. Okay, now

756
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: that we've connected our two outlaws, let's take a little

757
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: break and after these messages, I'll tell you about the

758
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: ballad of the outlaw Barbara Danielle Lazy. Okay, Elizabeth Sarah,

759
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: we're back. Yes you're ready, Yes, buckle up, buttercup, Yes,

760
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: all right, you're ready to hear about my other Girl

761
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 2: Barbara Danielle buckled Okay and the Friday, July twenty eighth,

762
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty two edition of The Independent, the New South

763
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Wales version reported on the High Women Barbara Daniella. The

764
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: subhead of the story was pretty telling of what was

765
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: to come. Bewitching bandits, daring exploits.

766
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: Since nineteen twenties, nineteen twenty two.

767
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: I'll let the rider take it from here. And I quote,

768
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: if a man must be relieved of his past and watch,

769
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: he could not part with him in a more pleasing

770
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: condition than to the command of a beautiful girl with

771
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: a captivating smile on her pretty lips. Oh God, so

772
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: gone were the days? Is the outlaw of yesteryear?

773
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: I don't mind he's taking my stuff?

774
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bold red lip on an outlaw. So they

775
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: used to be, you know, from the outlaws of yesteryear.

776
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: You expected rough, unshaven ways, maybe a little tobacco spittle

777
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: in the corner of their mouth, quick hand of the pistol.

778
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Not in nineteen twenty two, Elizabeth. No, Now women are

779
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: jazz flappers. Women are driving cars, smoking cigarettes and bars.

780
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: They got jobs. It's a new time for a new woman.

781
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: But this idea of the new woman predated the Roaring twenties,

782
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: because talk of the new woman started in my century

783
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: of the nineteenth century, because that newspaper report on Barbara

784
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: dan Yellow was twenty years old and it was a reprint.

785
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: Oh really, okay, the New.

786
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: York Herald the twenty years later, Like it's a brand

787
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: new story. It's the weirdest thing nothing. I was like

788
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: so confused when I was doing research. I was like,

789
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: yeah that I read it and was like, oh, yeah,

790
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: they're quoting from this out thet started years. It was like, hey,

791
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: remember remember how it was? Okay, the New York Herald, right,

792
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: a very big paper at the time. It originally reported

793
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: on Barbara Daniella. And it's Saturday October twenty ninth, eighteen

794
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: ninety eight edition, which is the contemporary stuff with Dora Cox, right,

795
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: and I quote, who shall say after reading this that

796
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: the influence of women is not a softening and refining one.

797
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: There is a modern robin hood operating in the Caucuses,

798
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: levying upon the rich travelers in that wild region, a

799
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: modern robin hood who should wear petticoats, but who doesn't

800
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: still that is her own.

801
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 3: Affair, should wear petty.

802
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: It's again always in the fashion police. I don't care

803
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: about the robbing, but what is she wearing. Another paper,

804
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: the Tara Naki Herald, reported on Barbara Danielle in its

805
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: story published on Saturday, December seventeenth, eighteen ninety eight. This

806
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: story had the headline new woman's latest development. So they

807
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: tired her into the arguments about feminism, I guess or

808
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: proto feminism and I quote the emancipation of women precedes

809
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: apace as nothing is sacred to a sapper, so apparently

810
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: there is no calling, however, masculine in its nature, which

811
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: the up to date young woman is not prepared to tackle.

812
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: Take the case of the Lady Highwaymen, narrated by the

813
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg correspondent of the London Daily Telegraph. Barbara Daniella

814
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: is her name. She disappeared some ten years ago from

815
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: the village of Banza and since then has held a

816
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: whole countryside in terror by her operations on the road.

817
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: The Lady Highwaymen.

818
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all lady something Sarah always of course me

819
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: lady lady host.

820
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't know about you, but I love that.

821
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: Some dude is like, now there are female highwaymen where

822
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: will it end coming. They're mad that highwaymen have gone

823
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: woke before they even had a word for woke. They're

824
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: just what is this most? I love all these newspapermen

825
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: competed over who could write the more glowing praise for

826
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: this female band and her beguiling beauty. Yeah, as the

827
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: writer for the New South Wales version of The Independent reported,

828
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: Bob is a picture of esque, polite and charming creature,

829
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: said one of the victims. Her manners are those of

830
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: the drawing room. A conversation is a delight to the

831
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: iss and the traveler who has meta regarded himself as

832
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: a person specially honored.

833
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: I wish that they wrote about the male outlaws chiseled features.

834
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, broadshet, trunk and fired fear and any victim who

835
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: dare go against him.

836
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: I was warm for his form too, not just her.

837
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Warm kills me every time.

838
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 5: Now.

839
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: As for her backstory, the reported story went and I

840
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: throw it back to the Independence coverage. Miss bob Read,

841
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: the daughter of a Russian nobleman and a girl of

842
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: great beauty, took it into her head to run away

843
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: from home and join the fiercest band of outlaws and

844
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: the Caucuses who promptly made it the chief.

845
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: Oh, the chief.

846
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh They're like, oh, get this, hoty, we should make

847
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: out their chief.

848
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 8: Right.

849
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: This all sounds like fan fiction.

850
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: It is, you know, it's fiction.

851
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: And of outlaws dubbed the daughter of a Russian nobleman,

852
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: their queen Barbara. Oh yeah, come on really now, And

853
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: under her influence and her tutelage quote, they rapidly became

854
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: gentle and humane. Murder became a thing almost unknown, and

855
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: violence of any kind was never tolerated.

856
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: Peace comes to the kingdom, okay.

857
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: I never never forget that when it comes to Barbara

858
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: daniela beneath the velvet glove is a hand of iron.

859
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: Oh god.

860
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: Right.

861
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: So there was one fellow who sure learned the lesson

862
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: the hard way. His name was Police Inspector aristof Right.

863
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: As The Independent reported, Police Inspected Aristot dashed off to

864
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: the veil, on to the teeth and accompanied by a

865
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: number of his men, vowing that he would not return

866
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: without the fair outlaw alive or dead. Interesting now good

867
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: to his word. The funeral for the police inspector was

868
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: held a week later.

869
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Wait is this the one for.

870
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: I didn't say she did it? Oh, just something happened

871
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: in the mountains, and then they said back. They sent

872
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: back a body, and they said, is this yours? You

873
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: probably want to put this in the dirt. It's going

874
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: to start to smell so proa Now, earlier I mentioned

875
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: how the Saint Petersburg correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph

876
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 2: broke the story of Barbara Daniell, and everybody basically quotes

877
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: from his story. Yeah, let's hear from that cat, right.

878
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: So he's the wildest simp of them all. He set

879
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: the tone that all these other fonding writers imitated. Having

880
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: never actually met Barbara Daniell, he's the only one who

881
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: was in her presence right, And he uses very British

882
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: newspaper writings. So the first sentences, the ancient and oast

883
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: wild respectable Guild of Highwaymen still flourishes in the Caucases,

884
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: despite the fitful efforts of Cossacks and Circassians to inaugurate

885
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: a reign of relative peace in the wild and mountainous country.

886
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: Now there's also this mythic analogy. This curious highway woman

887
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: is one of the most autistic riders in a country

888
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: which has produced the best human substitutes for Centaurs. The

889
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg Correspondent documented the progress of highway robbery and

890
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: the civilizing influence that this woman disruptor brought to the Caucasus.

891
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Before Barbara took to the hills, travelers used to be

892
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: rudely knocked on the head before they knew where they were,

893
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: and if they ventured to speak or squeak on coming

894
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: to their senses, had their hands or heads cut off altogether,

895
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: and were generally dealt with as if utterly devoid of nerves, sensation,

896
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: and self respect. Today, everything is different, thanks Barbara Daniella.

897
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Now people have self respect and.

898
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: Sensation and they're enjoying it.

899
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: So the writer went on a document the many times

900
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: that Barbara Daniella counted on her luck or her newfound

901
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: allegiances to stay free when she was captured, because remember,

902
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: she also had a tendency to get nabbed. Yeah, four

903
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: or five times for instance, the lady was surprised or

904
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: betrayed and arrested, but her luck never left her. Once

905
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: her prison door it was a manor house, was opened

906
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: at night, if not by an angel of the Lord,

907
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: at least by a friend of the lady, whereupon she

908
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: rose up and walked away before her accusers could bring

909
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: her to trial. Now, my favorite story of her escapes

910
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: is when she, much like Dora Cox, hypnotized one of

911
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: her captors with her love eyes and her beauty.

912
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 9: Another time, her jailer sat her free and went with

913
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 9: her to the mountains, where he is now one of

914
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 9: the most fearless daredevils of her gang. Oh yeah, so

915
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 9: she wins this guy where he's like, I'm with you, Barbra.

916
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: He's like, this looks like way more fun.

917
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we ride hit the keys. Now, my second

918
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: favorite is the story of her being caught, arrested and

919
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: her jailer, who would have fallen in love with her

920
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: if he knew she was a woman. Oh, her jailer

921
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: would probably have fallen in love with her had he

922
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: known that the sympathetic prisoner belonged to the female sex.

923
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: But as Madame Daniella has invariably worn the picturesque costume

924
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: of a male Georgian ever since she took to the hills,

925
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: the janitor of the jail entertained an angel unawares and

926
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: conscientiously looked after her.

927
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Wait, so he's saying that the whole time, she's just

928
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: as a dude.

929
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes she would be dressed as a guy, obviously. Other

930
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: times people are as the beautiful law law. Yeah, the

931
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: Brids are a little better with the language than the Americans, obviously.

932
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: In the New York Herald's coverage, it sounds like American

933
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: tourists writing reviews of sex workers in foreign countries. Yeah. Like,

934
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: and I quote from the New York Herald, the American

935
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: terroist who ventures into that wild country in the south

936
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: of Russia should not neglect to go well supplied with

937
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: money and jewelry if he wishes to see the fair

938
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: barbera at her best.

939
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: Oh wait, so they just want to go out there and.

940
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: Exactly recommended going up there to meet her. Have lots

941
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: of bobbles, then.

942
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: It could be seen from a distance.

943
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: Now it sounds like the writer sounds like he's describing

944
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: a nineteenth century pay pig, Like she's into some kind

945
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 2: of like like OnlyFans finn doom fat.

946
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: But I don't know what any of what you What that.

947
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Means is that these dudes would be lined up for

948
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: the pleasure of being robbed by her, and they would

949
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: enjoy it the same way like a sub might enjoy

950
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: being humiliated. By their dombka. It's making sense, not really, Okay.

951
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: So a finndom is where a woman, typically a woman,

952
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: it can be a man, but typically a woman has

953
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: these men who are fans.

954
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: Of her, oh like a financial dominated exactly. So she

955
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: has these words.

956
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: Well that the term is called findom no, but it

957
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: comes from somewhere. Well, yeah, but I'm saying it's the

958
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: term anyway. So the term is she basically sounds like

959
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: the same dynamic, yeah, which is that these guys are

960
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: loving to be going and be humiliated by a beautiful woman,

961
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: and they're willing to give up a small fortune to do,

962
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: which just goes to prove by contention that it's always

963
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: been the same basically as Stephen A would say, nothing

964
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: new under the sun and things of that nature, right,

965
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: or as I would say, same people, we just have

966
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: different technologies.

967
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

968
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, But let's get back to the Saint Petersburg correspondent

969
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: from the London Daily Telegraph, so his readers could have

970
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: the full sense of what it was like to be

971
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: robbed by a beautiful highway woman, Barbara Daniella. He wrote,

972
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: and I quote, fancy, if you should be traveling along

973
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: the roads of the wild districts of coute, clothed in

974
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: the costume of the country, being politely halted in some

975
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: out of the way spot by a party scarcely larger

976
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: than your own. Right, So fancy that, Elizabeth, get by

977
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: a crew. But you know what, Elizabeth, right, let me

978
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: tell you about it. I'd like to mix. I'm gonna

979
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: have this cat tell you about it. Oh no, so, Elizabeth,

980
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: I'd like you to close your eyes and picture it.

981
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: You are in the Caucaus Mountains. You are on horse,

982
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: part of a group of riders. You're all currently passing

983
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: through the rocky escarpments of a ravine. When you hear

984
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: the sound of approaching riders, the horses are like rolling thunder.

985
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: As he draws near, Take it away, Saint Petersburg correspondent.

986
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Imagine the leader, riding a little apart from the others,

987
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: doffing his hat with an air of court lig race,

988
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: and in a few polite words pronounced in a most

989
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: insinuating voice, explaining that to his referenced circumstances beyond his

990
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: control render it necessary that he should deprive you of

991
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: your money, horse, and valuables. But then he will do

992
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: so with as little discomfort to yourself as possible. You

993
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: and your companions might instinctively reach for your weapons, but

994
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: it would do no good. In a twinkling, every one

995
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: of you would be covered. They're there, gentlemen. The leader

996
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: would be apt to expostulate, let us transact to our businesses, gentlemen,

997
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: should will you kindly turn out your pockets? After it

998
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: is all over? The leader of the band, who is

999
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: none other than Barbara Daniella, they request you to remain

1000
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: on the spot for an hour or so until he

1001
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: and his friends have had enough time to get clear away,

1002
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: and he adds that should you disobey, one of his

1003
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: men has orders to blow your brains out, which he

1004
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: sincerely begs you not to have carried out. You wait

1005
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: impatiently for the hour to elapse. Ages seem to have

1006
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: passed away since your property left you, But the white handkerchief,

1007
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: which is to be hoisted as a signal that you

1008
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: might have moved on, has not yet appeared. And as

1009
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: you are beginning to debate with yourself whether you had

1010
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: not better take to your heels and risk the consequences,

1011
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: when all at once the gentleman on the prancing charger

1012
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: right up raises his hat and says I'm so sorry, sir,

1013
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: to cause you still further discomfort. But I leave it

1014
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: to yourself to judge whether I can do otherwise. You

1015
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: see those travelers away there on the further end of

1016
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: the road, Well, we thought we might as well do

1017
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: business with them while they and we are here. We

1018
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: may never meet again in this world, and it would

1019
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: never do for you to leave us in the alert

1020
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: at such a critical moment. I must ask you, therefore,

1021
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: to wait till the business is transacted, and then I

1022
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: promise you I will do everything to further you on

1023
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: your journey home. Here. Is there anything I can offer

1024
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: you meanwhile to shorten the time? A pack of cards,

1025
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine, or only a drop of wine?

1026
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Certainly I will tell one of my men to bring

1027
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: you a bottle. In a moment, and, gracefully touching his hat,

1028
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: the highwayman is off. You are provided with good wine

1029
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: and with the spectacle of a neat highway robbery, softened

1030
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: and refined by sweet female influence. And an hour or

1031
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: two later you part politely with your captor, who wishes

1032
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: you godspeed.

1033
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 10: On the way.

1034
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: So there you go. That is how they depicted what

1035
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: we've heard so much about yeah yeah. So after that

1036
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: stirring account, Saint Petersburg correspond he got back to what

1037
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: he knew best, which is talking about a woman in

1038
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: the terms of what value she provided a man. Sure,

1039
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: so he said, and I quote, Barbara Danielle is a

1040
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: Georgian and her beauty therefore may be more easily imagined

1041
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: than described. Or there's the more yeah right, the more

1042
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: purple prose published by the New York Herald, and her

1043
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: male attire. She would never be taken for a woman

1044
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: were not for her delicate features, her silvery voice, and

1045
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: her small hands and feet, always neatly gloved and booted.

1046
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: I think most of Elizabeth we should give old Barbara

1047
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: Daniella all the credit she deserved as an early tech disruptor, because,

1048
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: as one paper noted and I quote, until the coming

1049
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: of Barbara Daniella, the bandits cared for nothing but to

1050
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: secure their plunder, and the easiest manner possible if a

1051
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: victim resisted, and it was thought the easiest way to

1052
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: bring him to terms to cut off his head zip

1053
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: the deed was done. It was effective, but it was

1054
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: not artistic. Now, really, when it comes to separating heads

1055
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: from your shoulder. I expect artistry. I don't know about you.

1056
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it to be artistic.

1057
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: Who hired this highwayman just just sloppily chopped head exactly.

1058
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: All jokes aside, though, it should be noted that what

1059
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I respect Barbara Danielle for the most was that she

1060
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: spared the poor from the brutality of the bandit so,

1061
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: if only for a little while. As the New York

1062
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: Herald noted, among the barbarous bandits and the highwaymen of

1063
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: the Caucaus Mountains, there was no chivalry in their makeup

1064
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: until Barbara came among them. But now the poor are

1065
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: allowed to go in peace, and sometimes their condition is

1066
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: bettered by a meeting with a fair highway woman. She

1067
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: used to give the money from the rich, and she'd

1068
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: be like, Hey, how far are you guys going? Damascus?

1069
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: Here you go? Yeh, that's nice, break it off a

1070
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: little bit. Now. The poor travelers they never had to

1071
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: fear Old Barbara H. Daniella because she was regarded to

1072
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: be extremely charitable and kind. Now. I don't know about you, Elizabeth,

1073
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: I love both these outlaws.

1074
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fantastic.

1075
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: So what's ridiculous takeaway here.

1076
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: You know what my ridiculous takeaway is, go barefoot? How

1077
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: about you? What's your ridiculous takeaway?

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Speaker 2: I need a horse.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I kept reading about this. I'm like, God, I want

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Speaker 2: a horse. I wanted to be able to take off

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Speaker 2: and people are like, we don't know where he is.

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Speaker 3: He went that direction an air tag on the horse.

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Speaker 2: So after all of this, I got to ask you something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thanks for asking what my question is going to be?

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Speaker 2: My question is this, Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: I was just to ask so much.

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Speaker 2: I know I keep you busy. You're in the midf

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Speaker 2: talkber I.

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Speaker 3: Oh you better believe it.

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Speaker 10: Hit it, Dave, Oh my god, ill get.

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Speaker 8: Hello from Australia, Zarn and Elizabeth. I was years old

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Speaker 8: today when I heard Zarren say that mosquitoes are attracted

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Speaker 8: to oh blood type people. I am an oh blood

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Speaker 8: person and I've just thought for forty two years that

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Speaker 8: mosquitoes are just racist and eating me because I'm brown skin.

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Speaker 8: There you go, you taught me something news.

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Speaker 3: Aaron, love you guys, love the work.

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Speaker 8: And Elizabeth, I especially love your voice and your characters.

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Speaker 3: They crack me up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow from girl voices.

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Speaker 3: You know the mosquitoes.

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Speaker 2: Man could you maybe, uh, I don't know, just give

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Speaker 2: me a little uh. Could you do an impression of

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Speaker 2: a mosquito? I know you do celebrity impressions, but could

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Speaker 2: you impression.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Let's see. Okay, let me try this one.

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Speaker 6: He bothers me mosquito on a probscaser, pokin it.

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Speaker 2: It sounded like a mosquito.

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Speaker 3: Sually, you were outside on a hot summer night.

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Speaker 2: I almost swade it at you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just broke out in hives.

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Speaker 2: Just your own accent on well. As always, you can

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Speaker 2: find us online Ridiculous Crime on Twitter, Instagram, the other

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Speaker 2: social medias. We have the website ridiculous Crime dot com.

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Speaker 2: That place is fun so unlike the other ones. Now

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Speaker 2: we also have the talkbacks. We love those obviously, so

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Speaker 2: please hit us up on the iHeart app, leave us

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Speaker 2: a talkback and maybe you'll hear it tom the air. Also,

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Speaker 2: you can email us if you like. We still love

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Speaker 2: to receive those. Remember Dear Elizabeth, and that goes to

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. Also, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: give a shout out to one of our listeners, Ellie,

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening. We were reached out to by

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Speaker 2: your grandson, and he wanted us to give you a

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Speaker 2: shout out, and we also wanted to give a shout

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Speaker 2: out to you. We hope all is well, and I

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Speaker 2: hope you're enjoying the road trip with your boy. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for listening, and we'll catch you next. Crime. Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 2: is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and zaraon Burnette, produced and

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Speaker 2: edited by the new Sheriff in town, Dave Coust. Research

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Speaker 2: is by Marissa bad bad Leroy Brown and Andrea I

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Speaker 2: it goes. Our theme song is by Tom the Cripple

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Speaker 2: Creek Kid, Lee and Travis call me three Finger Dutton.

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Speaker 2: The host wardrobe provided by Buffy five hundred. Executive producers

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Speaker 2: are Ben the Prairie, Professor Bolin and Noel They called

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Speaker 2: Me Dyna, Mie, Dick.

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