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Speaker 1: Welcome to money making conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry.

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Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. It's

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald

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Speaker 2: money making commisisons.

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Speaker 1: There we go, Thank you, Thank you, steven A. Appreciate everybody.

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Speaker 1: On another hot day, hot day, I let me tell

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Speaker 1: you how it is. You know in my office, you

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Speaker 1: know where the long guy next day? I ain't saw

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Speaker 1: him in a couple weeks. He told me at the

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Speaker 1: office next door? Was the office next door. I'm friendly

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Speaker 1: with everybody. I speak to everybody. Life is good. I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I said, my man, I didn't saw you, nowhow he said?

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Speaker 1: It been too hot? So when the people cut grass

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Speaker 1: people who cut grass for a living say, hey, it's hot,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cut grass. I'm just gonna sit at

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Speaker 1: He cutting grass in the morning and late afternoon. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I see, brother, Keep doing what you're doing. And welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Money Making Conversation Master Class. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald here every week providing stories and interviews with people.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll change your lives with information that's always

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Speaker 1: about information. My guest is Michelle Taylor Willis. Michelle is

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three recipient of the one hundred Black

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Speaker 1: Men of souh Metro Atlanta Impact Award. Sometimes she has

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Speaker 1: been recognized as one of the top one hundred Influential

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Speaker 1: Women in Georgia, Big Old Georgia and Atlanta for a

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Speaker 1: different organization. Michelle is a member of Our aftercaf Alfa

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Speaker 1: ferraris Kee Wee Atlanta Business League, and the National Associations

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Speaker 1: a Black Journalist. Michelle makes her to day. She said

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Speaker 1: an actress now in twenty twenty two, she did that.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about the strike because everybody's not

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Speaker 1: acting nowadays. I remember of SAD. I'm a member of

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Speaker 1: house impacting in Atlanta and the business community. She's also

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Speaker 1: the host of Black Is a New Green on radar

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Speaker 1: vision dot Com. Also, we're bringing also brought on the

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Speaker 1: delve into. I hope we want to take phone calls

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Speaker 1: for that raising significance a guy to raise an independent,

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Speaker 1: well rounded and confident kids. Please welcome in the Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass, Michelle Taylor Willis, how are you doing, Michelle? Hey, Mashawan,

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Speaker 1: how are you pretty good? I get enough information out

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Speaker 1: there about you.

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Speaker 3: I mean you gotta know if I mean you didn't mention,

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Speaker 3: like you know, my own day in the State of

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Speaker 3: I mean it's tomato tomato, no no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I'm sorry. Everybody. You know you

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Speaker 1: I missed the day in the state of Georgia. Now

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Speaker 1: that's that's significant.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: To think about it is that you know those things

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Speaker 1: when you get an honor. I will tell people being

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Speaker 1: to for somebody to sit back and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: some we want to show respect. We want to let

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Speaker 1: Well, you know the thing about it is that you know,

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're a huge wait wait wait wait are you

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Speaker 1: I am a cute dog. Okay, a cute dog for real?

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Speaker 1: For real, I am I'm the real deal here, Okay

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Speaker 1: players thirteen weeks you know what I'm saying, wal dog collar,

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Speaker 1: I'm tall, I was real cute all back in college.

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Speaker 1: Now there's some pictures out there people got me. They

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Speaker 1: you this about Rashaan McDonald pledging Omega sift Fire Fraternity.

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Speaker 1: That's the fraternity I chose the pledge and I'm not

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Speaker 1: took me seven years to graduate, Michelle, seven years of graduate.

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Speaker 1: That was for real, seven years, Okay, four and a

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Speaker 1: I tell you, Michelle, it changed my life because once

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Speaker 1: I was able to accomplish that goal, guess what two

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Speaker 3: But you know, one of the things that pledge in

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Speaker 3: AKA taught me was the value or expanded my value

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Speaker 3: of relationships, networking and having you know, kind of an

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Speaker 3: when you're doing it, then you can't project fifteen, twenty

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Speaker 3: you're doing it. You know, service to all mankind right

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Speaker 3: The relationships were conditional, Right, The accomplishments were conditional. There

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Speaker 3: All you got to do is say I'm an aka.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like you know, saying hey, you know

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Speaker 3: I'm white, so I'm good right, I mean it really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's interesting how you how you

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Speaker 1: you get into stereotypes, you know, because you know, organizations

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Speaker 1: Fi And I didn't even know that, and I was

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Speaker 3: Ranson right to your point, and that's what we're here for.

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Speaker 1: She set the stage. Michelle Taylor willis the book raising

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Speaker 1: How you doing this is Rashawn McDonald, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Master Class. Parenting. You know, I have

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Speaker 3: Right man, you nailed it. You nailed it, Rashaw, you

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Speaker 1: I'm coming from, because Michelle, you have four boys, correct,

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Speaker 1: to discipline, It all goes back to consistency, It all

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Speaker 1: goes back to fear. If they fear the consequences. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the key word in this whole, because he

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Speaker 1: feared consequences if he didn't get in.

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Speaker 3: That car, that's right, correct, right, Yeah, Now.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know what michelle consequences were.

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Speaker 1: All I know is she's instilled in him there are

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Speaker 1: consequences out there that he know about that if you

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Speaker 1: don't get in this car, we're gonna have proud that's right.

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Speaker 3: And the thing to your point right when you said

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Speaker 3: about it could be the police or the or authority.

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Speaker 3: You know, they need to have a healthy fear of authority.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just do. We don't want to, we

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Speaker 3: don't want to have to yield to people, but it

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Speaker 3: just is the way it is. You're going to have

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Speaker 3: to yield. If you're going to work for somebody or

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Speaker 3: work with you have to learn how to submit at

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Speaker 3: a certain in a certain way to authority Like these

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Speaker 3: are just it's just the way it is until you

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Speaker 3: are able to call the shots right, and so it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter what the consequence is, It's always going to

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Speaker 3: be a consequence, right, and so sometimes it's mine and

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Speaker 3: you don't want those right.

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, because I called you earlier. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we get to talk, and when you talking

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Speaker 1: to people, this is a friendly conversation. You everybody just

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Speaker 1: happened to be listening to Michelle and I talked because

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Speaker 1: we weren't going to talk about fraternity, as alreadies. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about acting. But this book I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure I get the time in called raising.

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Speaker 1: Significance is that you said get them piano lists. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you got to go out and buy

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Speaker 1: a piano. This is all about music. It's all about

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Speaker 1: And I called her before this show. I said, wow,

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Speaker 1: I said I read. I said, I've read that that chapter.

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Speaker 1: And I remember in the step and grade, I used

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Speaker 1: to drag my B flat clarinet and my up to

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Speaker 1: school and back, you know, because because you know, my

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Speaker 1: parents can afford to pick me up after school. So

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Speaker 1: when I stayed at for band practice, I had to

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Speaker 1: walk home, or to walk home from middle school. Then

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Speaker 1: that was a long walk, I'm tell you something. And

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Speaker 1: when I went from B flat clarenef to a tennis saxophone,

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Speaker 1: that was a really long walk, dragging that big old

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Speaker 1: device all the way home. But what you're talking about

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Speaker 1: is recall addition, multiplication, and rhythm. That was my huge

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Speaker 1: takeaway from that chapter. And that's what And I told her,

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Speaker 1: I said, guess what, I said. My degree is in mathematics.

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Speaker 1: And she just smiled because if I didn't do music,

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Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be a My degree would have

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Speaker 1: been in mathematic mathematics today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and it's really it's critical thinking, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: what we are lacking as a society and our children, like,

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Speaker 3: it's critical thinking. And there's several studies out there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like I don't I'm certainly not an expert on this,

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Speaker 3: but I've read enough of them and I've seen enough

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Speaker 3: of them. Like there's a direct correlate between you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a direct correlation between critical thinking and math. There's

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Speaker 3: a direct correlation between critical thinking and early introduction of music.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's all, it's all connected. I mean, something

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Speaker 3: firing at different levels in young children's brains that prepares

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Speaker 3: them to be able to do things differently. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I was taught and this is what I've dealt

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Speaker 3: with all of my children. They all started piano at five,

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Speaker 3: and they all play musical instruments to this state. Even

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Speaker 3: my twenty four year old can still play the piano.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to admit it, but when he can.

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Speaker 3: But it's all I mean, they've all done well in

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Speaker 3: math and science and it's because they had to add

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Speaker 1: And my wife we got to get a piano, gotta

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Speaker 1: get a panel listening to Yeah, my greatest disappointment was

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Speaker 1: that I walked away from music and I didn't maintain

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Speaker 1: that relationship that music incorporated into my life because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that it really played a significant role on

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Speaker 1: who I am and my memory was was totally tied

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Speaker 1: to music. It was totally enhanced my recall and all

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Speaker 1: of the good stuff. But as we wrap up this

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Speaker 1: interview with you, Michelle, how do how do we get

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Speaker 1: in touch with you? And what are you working on?

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Speaker 7: When?

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Speaker 1: Make sure I get your projects out of there and

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Speaker 1: just not hogged this commercial by Rashon McDonald and his

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Speaker 1: questions what's going on in Michelle's life?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I you know, we need another two

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Speaker 3: to three days with Shawn, I think to move through.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 4: with Through Seawan McDonald.

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Speaker 6: You are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 6: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 5: This week, I sat down with media mobile, Hollywood executive

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Speaker 5: and philanthropists Nick Cannon. Although the former child star has

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Speaker 5: experienced a long career of success with no signs of

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Speaker 5: slowing down, he explains why he's so passionate about creating

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Speaker 5: opportunities for others.

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Speaker 9: It's all about the community. For me, It's about giving

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Speaker 9: other people opportunities. It's about opening doors and sharing their knowledge,

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Speaker 9: wealth and wisdom that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean,

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Speaker 9: you know, obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 9: I'll be able to you know, HU Howard University. I

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Speaker 9: want to go all the way. I'm getting my masters,

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Speaker 9: want to go to my doctorate and eventually be a

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Speaker 9: professor and teach the things that I've picked up along

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Speaker 9: the way. But it's all about the community, whether it's teaching,

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Speaker 9: whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us.

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Speaker 5: If you want to listen to this full interview with

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Speaker 5: Nick Cannon, it's available on money Making Conversations dot com.

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Speaker 4: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the Shield?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know, we'd need another two to

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Speaker 3: three days for Shawn, I think to move through. I

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Speaker 3: got a lot of things. I'm really unfortunate. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you mentioned earlier, the acting is taken off. I

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Speaker 3: just finished the female lead and I'll play and never

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Speaker 3: play with the Woman's Heart, which is going to be

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Speaker 3: remounted again in November here in Atlanta, and then thank you,

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Speaker 3: and then there's an uh it'll be running again at

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Speaker 3: another playhouse in Atlanta shortly thereafter. You know, we can't

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Speaker 3: do too much right because of the strike. But I

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Speaker 3: am doing a public reading at the Atlanta Black Theater Festival,

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Speaker 3: which they're actually taken to making this year. That's next week.

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Speaker 3: I did get books for an independent project that's coming.

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Speaker 3: So the acting is great. I've been speaking a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'll be hosting one of the very few ted exes

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Speaker 3: that are going to be hosted at an HBCU. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you know this, but Morris Brown is

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Speaker 3: actually hosting a ted X.

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Speaker 1: And Wen what's that day? What's that day?

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Speaker 3: That is September twenty first, from eleven to three. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Jamal Bryant speaking all of those guys. So I'll

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Speaker 3: be hosting that event as well.

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Speaker 1: Gratulation.

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Speaker 3: I've got speaking stuff coming up. Yeah, we've got September

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Speaker 3: twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Right, September twenty first, twenty first. Okay, please please give

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Speaker 1: me a fly on that. Sure, I remind my listeners

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Speaker 1: about it because that's significant. That's black excellence and they're

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Speaker 1: doing it on the age.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of productions. Yeah, it's huge, and

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Speaker 3: we've got a lot of productions coming up. I've just

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Speaker 3: finished producing a podcast for a mer who formerly looms

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Speaker 3: from you know, from Tough, I mean, Didy Gosh, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to think bad boy, thank you. I know, right,

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Speaker 3: there's so much so, you know, I want I want

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Speaker 3: to tell you this a couple of products I'm cping.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot. Yeah, what you got?

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Speaker 1: You know when when I talk about excellence and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that you came on my show, you know, because

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Speaker 1: this is relationships. See the thing that it is that

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Speaker 1: I'm not here because of ra Sean mcd. I'm here

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Speaker 1: because of relationship and mentorship and people being able to

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Speaker 1: say value what I bring to the table and what

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring an introduce just like an introducing

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Speaker 1: you through my show Everybody Knows You, and it just shows.

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Speaker 1: Its premieres on wc OK. It's syndicated various H twenty,

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Speaker 1: HBCU campuses, it streams internationally. You know, one thought as

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Speaker 1: we close, what is what? What is the one walk

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Speaker 1: away you'd like to have for our listeners to know

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Speaker 1: about Michelle Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Willis the one thing to know about me? Yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 3: It's never about me.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that because you know what.

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Speaker 1: I like that because that's what your book is about.

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Speaker 1: Your book is about raising four men who understand society

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Speaker 1: has a lot of ups and downs and you want

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Speaker 1: them in a winning situation. And that's what your book

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Speaker 1: is about. For any parent who reads that guy, it's

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Speaker 1: called raising significance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never It's never about you people. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: people see people like you or like me, Verrashawn, and

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Speaker 3: they think Michelle Michelle, Michelle Michelle or shaw Rashan, And

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Speaker 3: it's not about me. It's about you know what. You know,

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Speaker 3: It's about the team or lord of it. I'm me

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Speaker 3: because I have a fantastic team. I'm me because a

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Speaker 3: great support. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you Kelly is the moll I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for.

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Speaker 3: Kelly is a g Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show, Michelle.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. Until Kelly high and having and

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Speaker 1: we're talking in the fall. But September twenty first is

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Speaker 1: the ted X on you said Marris Brown Campus in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Actually it's actually at Newbern Newbury hosting it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, we do that. And my boy Jamal Brian

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Speaker 1: who's been on my show as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be he's speaking yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay cool, we talked. So thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation MASSACREINT appreciate you.

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