Speaker 1: We're back to Drink Shamps Radio with Rapper and r
Speaker 1: E dj E f N.
Speaker 2: Hey Hans sang Gree, I hope you say it's your
Speaker 2: boy in O R this dj E f N and
Speaker 2: this is Drink Chaps motherfucking podcast.
Speaker 3: And I Got.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever been called this. I
Speaker 2: got who I think is the new King of the South.
Speaker 2: He's been so consecutive. He's been staying in your face.
Speaker 2: He's been stomping you on features. He's been stomping you.
Speaker 2: He's the only person that figured out that we've been
Speaker 2: spending so much money on Christmas. He figured out how
Speaker 2: to get rich or of Christmas. No, motherfucking my friend.
Speaker 2: I know him since he had a different name, but
Speaker 2: I'm calling him. I don't call him that in his face,
Speaker 2: but calling him in his face the new King of
Speaker 2: the South to me, that's my personal opinion. Motherfucker too.
Speaker 2: T two change, man. I'm so honored to have you
Speaker 2: in the building. I knew you for years. Man, you
Speaker 2: never changed on me. We always kept it tight, you
Speaker 2: kept it real. But how did you figure out how
Speaker 2: to get rich off of Christmas?
Speaker 3: Uh? CEO talk Yeah, just CEO to CEO.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I had a lot of swings and
Speaker 4: missus in the in the past as far as merchandise
Speaker 4: and trying to capitalize off merchandise and capitalize off my
Speaker 4: success in merchandise. At the same time, I created a
Speaker 4: bunch of different T shirts, tried to testimony online, testiment
Speaker 4: with people's opinion. One of my best selling T shirts
Speaker 4: was the ones that had the two chains on them
Speaker 4: that other brands and people started using. That was a
Speaker 4: promo and put it out, but it was it was
Speaker 4: my idea the whole the time. I always had this
Speaker 4: idea of having a shirt leg like crazy yeah and bootleg,
Speaker 4: and then fashion fashion people started using chains in their
Speaker 4: clothes and everything. So a lot of times with me,
Speaker 4: I shot away from something that not I won't say
Speaker 4: I started with some of the things that I.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, started back up or or began.
Speaker 4: I kind of like, I don't want people to you know,
Speaker 4: because today it'll make it seem like you biting, and
Speaker 4: it makes it seem like you you took this idea,
Speaker 4: they flip it on you. I'm starting to see FASA
Speaker 4: and all these different things I ever.
Speaker 2: Hit you off for publishing, try.
Speaker 4: To nah nah, Santa Santa didn't he could he should
Speaker 4: have because I ran up, I ran up some fans on.
Speaker 2: Because because technically nobody owns Santa though, right.
Speaker 3: Right, right, that was that was perfect.
Speaker 2: Just think about it. Can you trademark Santa Claus? Because
Speaker 2: think about it like it's a holiday, nobody owns the holiday,
Speaker 2: and you figured that out.
Speaker 4: Put them chains on, some ugly sweaters incorporated that damn
Speaker 4: movement with the Santo ran up a couple of ms.
Speaker 2: You was doing pop up shops with it, all types
Speaker 2: of things, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the culture right now.
Speaker 4: You have to ride the wave a lot of the
Speaker 4: times with artists, a lot of times with artists and
Speaker 4: people that's been the game so long, they want to
Speaker 4: stay on what they are, like this is what it is,
Speaker 4: even though it worked for them before. And with me,
Speaker 4: I keep the youth around. I surround myself with new
Speaker 4: creative vibes. And you got to know that the like
Speaker 4: urgency and impulses is in style right now, like tomorrow
Speaker 4: or right tonight. Doing something so urgent is what's going
Speaker 4: on with kids. Because their attention span is so so
Speaker 4: so short. You have to be able to entertain them.
Speaker 4: You know within a six second or fifteen seconds, have
Speaker 4: you learned a whin to.
Speaker 5: Like pull back when you see like okay, it's over
Speaker 5: those six seconds for me, for any.
Speaker 4: Artists right now, with the short tension span of a
Speaker 4: fan base, you have to consistently do stuff so you
Speaker 4: can't really pull back. Once you pull back, somebody can
Speaker 4: easily slide in the space because they're merch wise, Like
Speaker 4: if you see like something out like okay, I will
Speaker 4: not merch. Merch is something that you have to learn.
Speaker 4: It's education. Like people think you just come up with
Speaker 4: a successful thing. You have to really read. You have
Speaker 4: to study the game, and then you have to capitalize
Speaker 4: off of it. You have to you have to just
Speaker 4: when you come up with these ideas like people have,
Speaker 4: I don't think people followed through with their ideas, right
Speaker 4: and with me, Once you get a team that's put
Speaker 4: together and everybody knows their role and what lane they're
Speaker 4: gonna run, and me being the point guard being able
Speaker 4: to throw throw a loops and catch the dunk at
Speaker 4: the same time. But being a team player, it's easy
Speaker 4: to get shited done and.
Speaker 3: You deal with all the way. Going back to manufacturing,
Speaker 3: do you deal with that, I did about everything and
Speaker 3: I'm so hands on and don't make it because.
Speaker 5: I manage a band, a group that signed to Strange
Speaker 5: Music Tech nine and their merch game is but.
Speaker 3: Now, And that's somebody that I learned from earlier.
Speaker 4: You heard about what he was doing with factories and
Speaker 4: warehouses and capitalizing up his merch and he was somebody
Speaker 4: that never really threw it in your face. And that's
Speaker 4: kind of how I'm moving about with my brands, right.
Speaker 2: And then how do you come up with the CEO? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: CEO was another thing that I felt like was very urgent,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And God basically sent me
Speaker 4: this idea because after Dad and Center, I was like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to do like a line for real,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, and that's.
Speaker 2: That the name of the line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's CEO Millionaires. It means creating every opportunity.
Speaker 2: You know why I like that is because even if
Speaker 2: you in turn put this on, it gives them a
Speaker 2: sense of empowerment definitely, you know what I'm saying saying.
Speaker 2: So I actually noticed the CEO shirts and I think
Speaker 2: the hats even before I knew you was affiliated with it,
Speaker 2: but once when I knew that was yours, I was like,
Speaker 2: he's thinking, because that's what we need in our communities.
Speaker 2: It is something that you you you can you can
Speaker 2: look forward to, you know what I'm saying. So if
Speaker 2: you are a maintenance man and you put on the
Speaker 2: CEO all shirt, you're gonna spit back and be like,
Speaker 2: well that's how you feel for that day. So let's
Speaker 2: make some noise for that goddamn two things. He's he's
Speaker 2: so smooth. We're gonna get him to open up. So
Speaker 2: let's take it back to the UH, to the how
Speaker 2: did you first get in the game? This was a
Speaker 2: d DTP. You was a director?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was signed to Luda at first, disturbing the
Speaker 4: piece I was signing them for roughly man, probably almost
Speaker 4: a dime, probably almost ten years, you know as titty boy.
Speaker 4: So two chains has more of a meaning besides me
Speaker 4: just wearing two chains.
Speaker 3: It means like this is the second Yeah, like chance.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, one chain for who I am,
Speaker 4: the second chain for who I want to be, or
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing like that,
Speaker 4: But just coming in a game with Luda.
Speaker 3: He was from College Park, south Side, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying where I'm from.
Speaker 4: He was a radio personality for people who don't really
Speaker 4: know his story. I was somebody, yeah, him and this
Speaker 4: guy named poon Dad who I was really cool with
Speaker 4: from from LA. They was in Atlanta, like making noise,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was somebody that was
Speaker 4: very popular through.
Speaker 3: Sports and hustling. That's what I was popular.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't someone that just went around and kind
Speaker 4: of wore a rapper on my sleeve like you know,
Speaker 4: earlier in the days, you knew a rapper was a
Speaker 4: rapper because he you know, he wore was clothes backwards
Speaker 4: or or or you know, got in ciphers. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was a And I was someone that just was entertained
Speaker 4: by watching that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I never really knew that this was a skill
Speaker 3: set of mind.
Speaker 4: I just knew that I was meant to entertain people,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. In my earlier days, like
Speaker 4: when I was a you know, a basketball star, whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it. Anytime I had the ball,
Speaker 4: I realized that's when everybody would look at me. So
Speaker 4: I ain't want to not have the ball. So it's
Speaker 4: the same concept with holding the microphone. I feel like
Speaker 4: anytime I got the mic, I got people's attention right
Speaker 4: and I started kicking moves with Luda he signed me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, what years is I learned
Speaker 4: a lot. It's probably like three or something like that.
Speaker 3: Oh learned.
Speaker 4: I learned a lot from being under his wing, Shakazul
Speaker 4: on their whole camp.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: His management was like a New York based guys where
Speaker 4: hip hop started.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They had a lot of knowledge and I met Noray
Speaker 4: like do them alone.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask. So what was the moment
Speaker 2: where you was like this is not going to work
Speaker 2: and you stood on your on Like was you confident
Speaker 2: in that moment or because these guys were steaming hot
Speaker 2: and you stepped away that.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've always been highly confident in myself
Speaker 4: and my talents, and it was just something that I
Speaker 4: don't know, it just it's just something that didn't feel.
Speaker 4: It didn't feel right, Like I would come in clubs
Speaker 4: and and you know, if I came in with the
Speaker 4: whole crew, he would get a certain amount of attention,
Speaker 4: and I would too because I had kind of like
Speaker 4: paid my dues as far as paving away for myself,
Speaker 4: as far as being you know what I'm saying, man,
Speaker 4: that was a legendary guy who who was out here
Speaker 4: really hustling bags or doing what people may yap about
Speaker 4: on albums, like people know like I would, I would
Speaker 4: be on the road doing shows for duff Bad Boys
Speaker 4: and come back and pick up you know, I would
Speaker 4: go out there and make five hundred or something a
Speaker 4: thousand of show, would come back and pick up like
Speaker 4: twenty bands because I didne left.
Speaker 3: Something grew up.
Speaker 2: So like your first official like single on your own
Speaker 2: was I'm Riding Out and I'm getting It. That really
Speaker 2: went national headline, Like how did that moment feel? Because
Speaker 2: for me, I knew about you. I've been telling people
Speaker 2: about you whatever, but that was like your first breakout single.
Speaker 2: I remember being in Atlanta in the Strip Club and
Speaker 2: it's just coming on and everybody going crazy, Like what
Speaker 2: was that moment? Was that the moment when you knew
Speaker 2: that you made the right decision.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not gonna lie. Like when I did Duffle
Speaker 3: Back Boys, which was.
Speaker 4: Before that that gave me that feeling. A lot of
Speaker 4: people received it. Well, Waange was the hottest dude in
Speaker 4: the world. He did the hook for nothing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He just did the hook because he
Speaker 4: was feeling where I was coming from on other songs.
Speaker 3: It gave me a breakthrough, It gave me. It gave
Speaker 3: me that feeling.
Speaker 4: So although I was going on the road and not
Speaker 4: receiving a lot of money, I was receiving experience. I
Speaker 4: was learning how to do radio. I was learning how
Speaker 4: to do drops, things that artists tape for. Granted, these
Speaker 4: days small stuff. You get artists at the radio station
Speaker 4: never be there for two weeks doing drop.
Speaker 5: He did when they did the Duffel Bag y'all did
Speaker 5: the intros for the DJs.
Speaker 4: I got, guys, look because because at this time you're
Speaker 4: so hungry, you want to get on so bad. Like
Speaker 4: a lot of times, we get that little thing of
Speaker 4: success and we kind of be like, I don't have
Speaker 4: to do that no more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But it's it's it was important to do it because
Speaker 4: you still remember this, so I don't feel like it
Speaker 4: went in vain back then.
Speaker 3: I should be like man, this don't even mean you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that's always a sweet feeling, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So when I got that successful
Speaker 4: Wayne with Double Bad Boys, I was able to actually
Speaker 4: go on tour with him and perform it in front
Speaker 4: of you know, arenas right, and so watching his work ethic,
Speaker 4: watching what he does, you know, on and off the stage,
Speaker 4: and owning the studio in Atlanta and not really taking
Speaker 4: advantage of the studio that I had.
Speaker 3: I was more or less using my studio.
Speaker 4: For a trap than really working out of it and
Speaker 4: realizing that I can get more for a sixteen that
Speaker 4: I can get for any matter penitentiary chance you did.
Speaker 2: But that Wayne hook, how did that hook go?
Speaker 3: If I don't do nothing? Number ball clock?
Speaker 2: That is arguably the greatest hip hop hook crazy in history?
Speaker 2: Like that hook was like that should changed shit? I
Speaker 2: was like why. It actually made me pay attention to
Speaker 2: Wayne Moore as well, because he was only on there
Speaker 2: for like eight bars and it was so how how how?
Speaker 2: And and you and Wayne just maintained that relationship from then.
Speaker 2: Is that when y'all first are connected.
Speaker 4: Well, we was actually cool before that, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I was actually cool before that. A
Speaker 4: lot of people anytime they came to Atlanta, they had
Speaker 4: to holler at me for different reasons. And then I
Speaker 4: built a lot of I built a great relationship with
Speaker 4: him when I went to New Orleans, when I first
Speaker 4: met Stunner. I met Stunner first. I went to New
Speaker 4: Orleans and me and him started getting cool on I own.
Speaker 4: But like I said, he really didn't know that I
Speaker 4: was like a rapper. I wasn't kicking it like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I was more or less
Speaker 4: around right, you know? And I have you know how
Speaker 4: we are with some burgos.
Speaker 3: It is the best side.
Speaker 2: I said, Virgos is the best side. And nobody clapped
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: We got some good vibes.
Speaker 4: People people rock with us. We loyal people once you
Speaker 4: get us on the team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Where you people rocking with you or not? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You my partner, you did? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's how I kick it. I
Speaker 4: can't wait for nobody to fuck with you. That's when
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay down with and so that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry honestly, I honestly, I tell every rapper who
Speaker 2: comes on this show, I said, this might not do
Speaker 2: nothing for them, but it does everything for me as
Speaker 2: a podcaster. And then it then what happens with this
Speaker 2: is these people go back and they pick up your albums.
Speaker 2: How this is happening, I have no idea, but everybody
Speaker 2: who's actually been on the podcast albums is like charting
Speaker 2: again because they just love to sit down and hear this.
Speaker 2: And you and Wayne's relationship is like I can tell
Speaker 2: that that's real, Like not to say that any of
Speaker 2: his other relationships wasn't what I remember. Like he's supposed
Speaker 2: to do an album with t Paine, He's supposed to
Speaker 2: do an album with you know you name him Jewels.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, who else, Drake? And then
Speaker 2: and it happened with you? How did that feel?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Because I know that Wayne with somebody you looked up to,
Speaker 2: and now like he's really.
Speaker 4: I still do I still do? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: This is like you know what I mean? He made
Speaker 4: me step it up. It was excuse me, like I
Speaker 4: told him, it was a dream come. It was a
Speaker 4: dream come truth for me, you dig what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: everybody know he's up with echelon, he's top tier MC
Speaker 4: in the game, whether he has an album out or not.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm able to I'm lucky
Speaker 4: enough to hear compositions that some people hadn't heard to
Speaker 4: let you know that he still has a very sharp sword.
Speaker 3: It was fun And this came.
Speaker 2: Out on Death Jam too. How did you pull that off?
Speaker 2: Because it's going through all this legal stuff and it's
Speaker 2: still because yeah, it's on because I thought it.
Speaker 3: Was a mixtape that well, well, def Universe the same thing.
Speaker 2: But it's still different.
Speaker 3: They're the same thing. But it's like your brothers, you
Speaker 3: got the you know, that's the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but technically they could, they could, they could, they
Speaker 2: could step in. Universe owns the whole company. That's a fact.
Speaker 4: But that was it was just it was just how
Speaker 4: it was, just how the stars was lined up because
Speaker 4: because Universal, it was really the it's really the father in.
Speaker 2: This course, they don't everything.
Speaker 3: It's called the child to come up with this the father.
Speaker 3: They ain't have no problem with it.
Speaker 4: But you know, because the person that was on half
Speaker 4: the composition is.
Speaker 3: He did you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it kind of was it was still it was
Speaker 4: still certain dudes that had to be paid, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't ever a problem with this couldn't come through fruition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's crazy though, man, that's damn crazy.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise for a change off.
Speaker 5: So none of that record y'all was battling like like
Speaker 5: I felt like you was like showing off at that point.
Speaker 3: Was in the studio together rap.
Speaker 4: And See that's the thing, Like we have a lot
Speaker 4: of records that didn't make the album, but a lot
Speaker 4: of the stuff that that you hear, we were actually
Speaker 4: in the studio together, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: people haven't been in the studio Wayne, you could be
Speaker 4: in there with them for weeks to not get a
Speaker 4: verse off when not going to together. It's kind of
Speaker 4: like what you got? You got any beats and I'd
Speaker 4: be like, what you got?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So for this particular song Bounced that I think everybody
Speaker 4: should hear in the game because it adds something different
Speaker 4: to the game and it's very fun and intriguing and
Speaker 4: there's some bars in there.
Speaker 3: We just went back and forth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I have a few of my friends in there, Like
Speaker 4: I remember my chef was in there, my engineer.
Speaker 2: To change flossing on us.
Speaker 4: I had to that cap in there. Let y'all know,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, how I'm living no beef,
Speaker 4: no pork. You feel I carry mind with me like
Speaker 4: a strap.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, right, you know, your relationship
Speaker 2: closer with Wayne, and you also said that you met
Speaker 2: baby first, right, like, how how does it feel like
Speaker 2: to be like you're not in the middle of it,
Speaker 2: but just to see, you know, discrepancies transpire.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm in the middle.
Speaker 4: I don't have feelings on it because I have a
Speaker 4: great I have a great report.
Speaker 3: Both both gent you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: With both gentlemen, I've always looked at looked up to
Speaker 4: Stunnerd like a mentor someone that was very educational with
Speaker 4: the street background. Same way with like whole you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, somebody that kind of got got the
Speaker 4: same little job on that resume. You dig what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that has this so you know, and then I always
Speaker 4: looked up to Wayne as far as someone that created
Speaker 4: his own lane off off work ethic and precision and
Speaker 4: you know, you know what I'm saying, trying to be purpose.
Speaker 4: So for me, you know what I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 4: have an issue with you know, their relationship. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I just you know, for the most part,
Speaker 4: I cherished my relationship I got with both the guys.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I really, I really do.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to have known them for over a decade
Speaker 4: to see the ups and the downs.
Speaker 2: Right right, let's make some noise for that, God damnage.
Speaker 2: So what what what that being said? You got something?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I want to take a little further back. But you
Speaker 5: was in the in the documentary that we just saw
Speaker 5: the organized noise on.
Speaker 3: Were you in that? Yeah? Yeah, what what is that?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 5: I know there's I can't that I can think of
Speaker 5: any evident like collaborations with you and and and Dungeon
Speaker 5: family to that.
Speaker 3: But well you haven't heard.
Speaker 4: What is happening is I'm working on another album and
Speaker 4: this is something I'm glad that so it's a good
Speaker 4: reason I'm here.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I'm working on another album.
Speaker 4: Now I enlisted like three or four producers who I
Speaker 4: wanted to cure my project.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And with my last album, I'm In, my Ticket to
Speaker 4: Yay dropped off a drive. And then because I just
Speaker 4: like his pre and post, like I like leaving something
Speaker 4: and hearing what he does about that. And then it's
Speaker 4: like some other guys that got like some other sauce,
Speaker 4: like my guy FKI who I did watch out with.
Speaker 4: I love him, my homie See no who did I'm
Speaker 4: on a new level for third and Organized Noise, who
Speaker 4: did some incredible things doing my upbringing in Atlantic.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And they working on this new album.
Speaker 4: So one day I called everybody took the studio to
Speaker 4: hear my new album, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 4: hear what I got on some same vibe that YA
Speaker 4: would do, as far as calling everybody a head and
Speaker 4: just really not even trying to wrap that day. We're
Speaker 4: just gonna talk about music, just see, you know. And
Speaker 4: this was before Colley Grove. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: This is just just me working on my next project,
Speaker 4: which is called BC, which means Before a Chance, which
Speaker 4: is basically TV boy and the whole upbringing back when
Speaker 4: you know me type.
Speaker 3: So they come in.
Speaker 4: I got reco I got everybody said a sleep, I
Speaker 4: got everybody'll seen in the documentary and I'm rubbing my
Speaker 4: hands together like stunner because I know, I know I
Speaker 4: got something that doing nobody else got. I know that
Speaker 4: they're very educated. I know that they know what that
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I know their track record.
Speaker 4: And then they do this documentary and like everybody on,
Speaker 4: they bumping and you know, once again, like I said earlier,
Speaker 4: I don't want to seem like I'm biting, but I
Speaker 4: already got some stuff cracking with with Mr DJ.
Speaker 3: And the whole campaign, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But like I look up the SELO, I look up man,
Speaker 4: come on three K is my favorite person in the world.
Speaker 4: Man like he carries himself, how he does music, everything
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: I heard you say about one day you was at
Speaker 2: one of your concerts and you see Andre three thousands
Speaker 2: just chilling in the crowd.
Speaker 4: This dude called him uber something with a bunch of people.
Speaker 4: It's in the crowd.
Speaker 3: So I seen somebody go get them, I said, this
Speaker 3: man in the right.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I just wanted to come
Speaker 4: watch the show. You know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 4: come back and watch the show. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he was it's like he almost didn't realize who
Speaker 4: he was man, you know what I'm saying. And like
Speaker 4: after he watched the show, was he was just dimming,
Speaker 4: faded AIGs back into the crack.
Speaker 2: But you know that's that's what's beautiful about about you.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing is how big you got. You
Speaker 2: ain't afraid to still be a fan. Like I've seen
Speaker 2: you one time, like on a jay Z stage and
Speaker 2: you were snapchat and today your manager we hit tech right,
Speaker 2: it's big a tech tech. Thanks for helping out.
Speaker 3: Tech.
Speaker 2: We right there, and you know what he says, said,
Speaker 2: you know two Cham's going to perform, but he also
Speaker 2: want to see the show. And right that moment, I
Speaker 2: was like, that's why that man is going to be
Speaker 2: around forever. Because when you get to a certain limit,
Speaker 2: a certain point in your life, some people want to
Speaker 2: stop being fans. Like you ever hear a nigga say
Speaker 2: all I listened to is my ship, Like you're an idiot,
Speaker 2: You're an idiot, like you better listen to everything like
Speaker 2: I listened to the new, the old, in between, the
Speaker 2: super old. I listened to it all because you should
Speaker 2: be you should be knowing what's going on in the world,
Speaker 2: and that's what keeps you, you know, tuned. Man, I
Speaker 2: think that's that's something that should be applauded that the
Speaker 2: fact is that you just came and performed for the
Speaker 2: biggest audience, but you actually wanted to stay there and
Speaker 2: sit in there and give it up to another artist.
Speaker 4: Man, this this Beyonce though, you know what, but still
Speaker 4: like it's like she's one of the best entertainers of
Speaker 4: our time. We just lost one of the best in Prince,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you can't let this go.
Speaker 4: You cannot realize that you're in the presence of greatness.
Speaker 3: And not while they're still here when they go to
Speaker 3: passing away.
Speaker 4: You got all these pictures, you're gonna post story vibes,
Speaker 4: You're gonna post when the man was just walking the
Speaker 4: other day.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm into giving people, I do know the same
Speaker 4: way benefit of the rapping staring about you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Seeing the error and things like that that
Speaker 4: really cultivated me as a Southern artist. They got substance
Speaker 4: or think about what I say. I'm not like your average.
Speaker 2: You're a real hip hoops fan, Like I want to get.
Speaker 4: Like man man him, like when people like that started,
Speaker 4: like like co signing men, not just co signing me,
Speaker 4: like honoring my mindset, my deliveries, the things that I
Speaker 4: was saying from him to you, or to a Jada
Speaker 4: kiss or to a Lloyd thanks, or to to anybody
Speaker 4: on these certain levels where they really are fab or
Speaker 4: anybody really care about their bars. All they got to
Speaker 4: do arenas I can go on a hole or anybody
Speaker 4: else that's complementing me on some things. That's where I
Speaker 4: get my confidence from. It's not like I need a female.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, My money's good. It's these
Speaker 4: peers that I look up to and came up to
Speaker 4: and recognize they tier of bars when they go to
Speaker 4: go to You know what I'm saying, boy, y'all, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I be good.
Speaker 3: I don't be caring about.
Speaker 4: The numbers and nothing after that, I'd be good, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like another thing I've seen you in the breakfast
Speaker 2: club and what's your partner that just passed away? A
Speaker 2: bank gan grow fresh and you spoke about that and
Speaker 2: you said in that interview, you said you don't think
Speaker 2: about it. And that's that's one thing that I noticed
Speaker 2: about you, Like you you'll put you'll take pain and
Speaker 2: you'll just put it to the side. Like is that
Speaker 2: is that a plus or that as a negative.
Speaker 4: That's something that I've been doing since probably like I've
Speaker 4: been doing that since I was young, Like having like
Speaker 4: this big ass smile with some dark stuff going on
Speaker 4: that you know what I'm saying, that's that's one of
Speaker 4: my that's my defense mechanism. That's one of my like
Speaker 4: and and it takes like when dealing with people, because
Speaker 4: I'm a psychology major, when dealing with people on all levels.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 1: In the room.
Speaker 2: But he just pulled out his diploma just now.
Speaker 4: So definitely, when you when you're dealing with people of
Speaker 4: all fastest, like all of us have different power so
Speaker 4: to speak.
Speaker 3: They won't know.
Speaker 4: But I could run across fans that can recognize that
Speaker 4: this may be a coup up. Now, I could run
Speaker 4: to some people that don't even get it right, man.
Speaker 4: This man got a smile concrete on his face, and
Speaker 4: I could run across somebody to be like, you ain't
Speaker 4: feeling good today, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 4: just it's just kind of how I moved with coming
Speaker 4: up in a single parent household and a low socio
Speaker 4: economic status type of neighborhood and really not even understanding
Speaker 4: that you was in bad shape. You did, know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because it's somebody down the street doing works.
Speaker 2: Because because I remember, like the most I ever called
Speaker 2: you is when your pops passed away. And the thing
Speaker 2: about that is I was when my pops passed away.
Speaker 2: I was in the same exact situation as you. I was,
Speaker 2: I had a platinum album, I was on the road,
Speaker 2: I had they had this gave me. I had did
Speaker 2: a tour for five hundred thousand, right, this is those
Speaker 2: beautiful days, right, And they gave me two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand in advance, and then they gave me like
Speaker 2: another one eighty before I got on the plane or
Speaker 2: something like that, and you know, I had took off,
Speaker 2: I paid for the funeral, went out, and Chris Lightdy
Speaker 2: came to me and was like it's either two things
Speaker 2: we can do. We can give back this money or
Speaker 2: we can go cash this money. And I had to
Speaker 2: go on the rod like this is my father. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, this, this was my hero. You
Speaker 2: know other people in the hood that had drug dealers,
Speaker 2: they looked I looked at my pops so and I
Speaker 2: knew what you was going through. And I ain't care
Speaker 2: if I bothered you. I called you every single day
Speaker 2: and I made you you remember that right now.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, you know I got done with
Speaker 3: deal with that before.
Speaker 4: See, if you haven't, if you've never lost a parent,
Speaker 4: it ain't ain't anything you can tell me about you.
Speaker 3: I understand. I can't vote for that because see, my
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I feel you just you did.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying because my daddy. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Although, like I said, I'll be using them stories about
Speaker 4: single parent mom and all that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Like I remember going to.
Speaker 4: I remember going to prison and my daddy looking totally
Speaker 4: different than I remember him when he went in. I
Speaker 4: remember just like him being different. He had got a
Speaker 4: little gray and everything. I just remember looking different. I
Speaker 4: remember putt my hand up against the glass. I remember,
Speaker 4: but I remember still like I remember, it became like
Speaker 4: a like a like a fad to like this your father, like.
Speaker 3: Everybody like you know, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I never went through that fat like even though
Speaker 4: mine went around. I still wasn't like he's like for
Speaker 4: some reason, cause I could find him if I wanted to,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And he always had some
Speaker 4: game and some gangster for me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He always had some game and some gangster for me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So the last time he
Speaker 4: got a prison and I picked him up personally.
Speaker 3: I pulled up. I ain't even having this much money.
Speaker 4: I have an expedition and all I pull up down
Speaker 4: and Archie State Prison somewhere. I picked the man up.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I take him to get
Speaker 4: a rising phone bank account, put nine thousand in it
Speaker 4: for him and a couple other things.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I moved a man with me and we started doing
Speaker 4: we was doing, and my daddy still had his hustle.
Speaker 4: He still when he passed away, I found two pounds, money,
Speaker 4: all types of stuff.
Speaker 3: He still had two pounds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, messing with my partners.
Speaker 3: See that wasn't money. I'm calling the studio and I'm.
Speaker 4: Starting to put this stuff to go, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I found money and everything. And it's
Speaker 4: just like like I tell people, with me hustling, it's
Speaker 4: like hereditary.
Speaker 3: It's a janetta for me, like my daddy.
Speaker 4: Really, you know what I'm saying, drove cars off the truck.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when I'm riding.
Speaker 4: And stuff with the plastic still on the how you
Speaker 4: want to kick it?
Speaker 3: It's in my blush, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So when I lose somebody of that caliber, it's gonna
Speaker 4: affect me to a point where, like, you know, when
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that, I like to think, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When I like to think, I go to you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Now, I don't have like but you.
Speaker 2: Ever like you never like because the thing about it
Speaker 2: is with me, I had to deal with it face on,
Speaker 2: like I had to look at it and say because
Speaker 2: to me, I feel like you like kind of put
Speaker 2: it into the back and you just you don't really
Speaker 2: think about it, am I right?
Speaker 3: Or now?
Speaker 4: I think about this, nigga. I think about bank Roll
Speaker 4: all the time. I can hear bank Roll voice.
Speaker 3: Fam.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. This is the thing with
Speaker 4: bank Roll is that I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: Right right and deniw I just can't believe it. I
Speaker 3: just remember it too. I just can't believe it.
Speaker 4: It's just about the bloke. I can't believe it. I
Speaker 4: just because we never saw each other every day. I
Speaker 4: talk every day anyway, so I just feel like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna see him again. I can't believe it. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. With my father, he was getting sick.
Speaker 4: It's the difference between the sporadic death and somebody that
Speaker 4: was sick prepared, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Somebody was sick, you kind of be like, man, pray, hope,
Speaker 3: it's gonna work some something that spreader.
Speaker 4: You go to be like all right, shoo boom, and
Speaker 4: then fifteen minutes later, right, It's like, that's why you
Speaker 4: can't believe it, because you just was like all right,
Speaker 4: shorley boom boom boom before you can get to the
Speaker 4: next spot. It's like you can't believe. There's no way
Speaker 4: that happened.
Speaker 2: Where was you at when you got the call? Was
Speaker 2: you in Atlanta?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was in Atlanta. Wow, I was in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I was very close. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So so with me, it's the defense. It's a defense mechanism.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You gotta think like I did the best I could.
Speaker 4: I didn't like you can Okay, my album dropped the
Speaker 4: same day as that bank passed. I couldn't be trying
Speaker 4: to put up go, get this remo, all this stuff
Speaker 4: I had to try to build.
Speaker 2: But what I got to do, I didn't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my work, my pop, my album dropped. My pops died
Speaker 2: two weeks later, something like that. Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 5: Then when you came down to do Melvin Flint, I
Speaker 5: remember you was borning No Melvin Flint.
Speaker 2: That was yeah. I lost my pops and Pun at
Speaker 2: that time. Like see now, Pun, I ain't never seen
Speaker 2: Pun sick. Like I used to be around Pun and
Speaker 2: he used to fall asleep on me right chains but
Speaker 2: he'd be like I used to think. I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm boring this ship. My story came up, I'm like
Speaker 2: I didn't know Pun was sick until like after he passed,
Speaker 2: and then I went and I, you know, studied what
Speaker 2: that was like. Enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain,
Speaker 2: but I was too young to understand that. So pun
Speaker 2: was like bank Rove, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: it was just like suddenly, not my pops. I knew
Speaker 2: my pops had kidney failure. I knew what he was
Speaker 2: going through. So I related to you so much, not
Speaker 2: only being a virgo, but I just you know, I
Speaker 2: think that you're you're such a loyal person.
Speaker 3: You're such a like.
Speaker 2: Even you being here right now, even you being here
Speaker 2: right now, that's that's from me and you knowing each
Speaker 2: other from back then, but you ain't had to come
Speaker 2: so that that in itself shows how just loyal you are.
Speaker 2: And I just want you to just not to forget
Speaker 2: to take care of to change. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: take care of you because I see you taking care.
Speaker 2: Come on here, you're gonna gonna hear something I was
Speaker 2: scared to offer you now. So now, now let's break down.
Speaker 2: Let's break down, Lian for the people who is drinking clorox,
Speaker 2: because some people are out here drinking clorox. They're not
Speaker 2: drinking lean, They're drinking chlorox mixed with night quail. Can
Speaker 2: you tell them the real? How does this happen?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So they have like mh, they have fake activists, like
Speaker 4: they have fake everything.
Speaker 2: They got fake everything.
Speaker 4: And so I don't drink red green nothing like that.
Speaker 4: All I do is drink activists. So when they said
Speaker 4: they were gonna stop making activists way back when, now
Speaker 4: activist is pink, just like uh, it's.
Speaker 3: The codine that changes it to pink. Change what you mix. Okay,
Speaker 3: it changed to once.
Speaker 4: Once activists like onces, Justin Bieber and a few other
Speaker 4: artists of high caliber started getting caught with this kind
Speaker 4: of drink.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Justin Bieber got caught with activists. We
Speaker 2: did not know that. Let's make some noise, but just
Speaker 2: toddamn it.
Speaker 3: Just it was just it was just everybody.
Speaker 4: Every time you saw somebody, that's what they It started
Speaker 4: being something that they would post from Soldier Boy and
Speaker 4: a lot of other cats would post it online. So,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, the company shut down and we gave
Speaker 4: a warning that was shutting down.
Speaker 3: When they gave that warning, I didn't believe them.
Speaker 4: But I kind of did because the price went up
Speaker 4: and I thought people were just trying to so I
Speaker 4: bought a little extra And so I don't drink every
Speaker 4: day at all, you know what I'm saying. But today
Speaker 4: I'm in Miami. It's like it was like a Beyonce tour.
Speaker 4: I had to perform for that. I had a video
Speaker 4: shoot with Lolwayne yesterday. I know, I got to be
Speaker 4: geeked up to be around this nigga, did you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: So I pulled out like my.
Speaker 2: Friend Twin, he came with he came with factivists. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what is he coming with that that?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: It was factivists, It wasn't activist.
Speaker 3: Then we'll come going that.
Speaker 2: Twin speak on has Mike? What was that?
Speaker 3: Fake?
Speaker 2: Should you drinking? What's this ship?
Speaker 3: What's it?
Speaker 2: It called?
Speaker 3: Not fake? This? Different types of leans? What's called characle?
Speaker 3: It's greed.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. I'm actually to step off in.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. I'm killing him, brother, I
Speaker 2: love you even look you got to change with choking.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 2: Listen time on Twin, this is a lean goy. He's
Speaker 2: never heard of this?
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 2: What you said. That's not it right.
Speaker 3: That's what he's drinking is prementous and coldine.
Speaker 2: I was in. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's very like it's very sweet. So when people get on,
Speaker 4: they get addicted to the taste. It tastes good and
Speaker 4: then it gives you, I don't know, a different kind
Speaker 4: of body high. For me, I'm already laid back, so
Speaker 4: it tensifies my laid back in it, so to speak.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, and it helps with anxiety, It helps with pain
Speaker 4: relief and all of that. So back when I was
Speaker 4: taking it before, I knew I needed it because they
Speaker 4: got bosses and acid reflux and some other things. This
Speaker 4: is what they prescribe you from things of that nature.
Speaker 4: They describe you this right here, but they instead of
Speaker 4: doing this now they give you peels. So now I
Speaker 4: have promithaz and pills that are from the doctor. But
Speaker 4: in order to get this here is basically extinct.
Speaker 3: But I got a little spot. He got a couple
Speaker 3: of things laying around similar connection.
Speaker 4: It's no because I've taken exantics before and it's like
Speaker 4: whoa you know? Exantax is like I can't Actually, that's
Speaker 4: actually this drink is a little okay.
Speaker 2: So okay, how did you become a popular in Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Because it's a Houston thing.
Speaker 4: It's definitely starting in Texas, you know, because we're in
Speaker 4: the South as well, man, and it became something.
Speaker 3: That it's a culture.
Speaker 4: Like with smoking, a lot of things that make us
Speaker 4: smoke from a psychological perspective, my brother, psychological has to
Speaker 4: do with the actual smoke.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no smoke.
Speaker 4: A lot of us wouldn't give you know, when when smoke,
Speaker 4: it's just the fact that you have to exhale. You see,
Speaker 4: you can make circles, you can fucking like the whole
Speaker 4: They see it over there, you know, it's like we
Speaker 4: was over here smoking and no one can see it.
Speaker 3: Kind of like we probably wouldn't do it because.
Speaker 4: There's a psychological did you know what I'm saying? Hard
Speaker 4: So it's the same thing with cups and drinking. You
Speaker 4: got these double cups. It represents a culture of you
Speaker 4: know how many people got like every time niggas doing
Speaker 4: this ship with liquor in it.
Speaker 3: Now, you ain't even supposed to drink liquor in this ship.
Speaker 3: Drunk the white.
Speaker 2: He had had a lean and patrol and handy. I
Speaker 2: said this nigga's crazy nigga.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and then like then, you got pills or
Speaker 4: something that you take, you have to wait like me,
Speaker 4: and you take it at the same time.
Speaker 3: We get high at different times. It's just pills is
Speaker 3: a little different for me. Anyway, everything else I'll be
Speaker 3: I'll try sometimes.
Speaker 2: Right, So what you got, niggas don't got? This is
Speaker 2: eight hundred a plant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's ship five thousand. Let's make.
Speaker 2: That makes the most suspensive ship. Now you're doing the
Speaker 2: most suspensive ship.
Speaker 3: With g Q.
Speaker 2: How did that happen?
Speaker 4: They came to me, man, they saw somebody with a
Speaker 4: devil in their personality. You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 4: saw somebody with the.
Speaker 2: Right define there. That sounds like something Billy D. Williams
Speaker 2: for set. I'm going to use that word definitely.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: It's something that they came to me with out. You know,
Speaker 4: we made it happen. It makes sense. It's been successful
Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll take you to the next level. We
Speaker 4: just shot the third season.
Speaker 2: So big up GQ for seeing that, because too chains
Speaker 2: a hood nigga like and they got him sipping ten
Speaker 2: thousand bottles of water.
Speaker 3: It's what was you doing? Yeah? I just did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I've had a three hundred dollars hamburger. I've
Speaker 4: had facts. This is life I've had. I mean the
Speaker 4: stuff that I've done is they have the five thousand
Speaker 4: dollars toothbrush.
Speaker 2: They have the five thousand dollars tooth brush.
Speaker 3: They have the Sunday.
Speaker 4: I forgot much the Sunday cause it had but they
Speaker 4: have like, you know, two million dollar car. I mean
Speaker 4: everything they have is like very over the top. And
Speaker 4: then for me, they introduced me to the person then
Speaker 4: on their camera. I think that's why successful was like
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about the person, so sometimes they
Speaker 4: don't know anything about me, so it's like I come there.
Speaker 4: Like the last one of the episodes I did was
Speaker 4: like selling one of these commemorative paths for Kobe, you know,
Speaker 4: for like twenty five thousand.
Speaker 3: But you know they're gonna walk.
Speaker 4: Into the ring with the security and a girl and
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of cat with it, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I wasn't going it was like a
Speaker 4: regular fitted cat. But it has some nice fabric, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Nice things going on. But you know,
Speaker 4: just me knowing that this hat after I'm touching it
Speaker 4: and pop mean, they like they want a quarter for it,
Speaker 4: get your hat back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So like the last.
Speaker 4: Episode I did, it was a kernel of popcorn, it
Speaker 4: had gold on it and all of this.
Speaker 3: They want five dollars per per kernel. Marina. Expensive movies
Speaker 3: get you like a hundred dollars two.
Speaker 4: Dollars work, you know what I'm saying, Work worth for them,
Speaker 4: work for the worth of them a little bit. And
Speaker 4: they come in little three fives, little trap set. You
Speaker 4: can get a one, you can get you a one
Speaker 4: or you know, so I'm kind of ate, like a hundred.
Speaker 3: Dollars worth of them.
Speaker 2: Don't be kicking it, brow, You'm gonna kick it with.
Speaker 3: Kicking it bro.
Speaker 2: Definitely the man once again to one of the I
Speaker 2: wanted just as I know it's made interview, but I
Speaker 2: want to thank you just just for being here and
Speaker 2: your energy is perfect. But I also want to bring
Speaker 2: up one thing, uh the sea murder thing. You remember
Speaker 2: I called you about that? You what did I say?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 3: Man? You said let that go? Should let that go? First?
Speaker 4: People don't know that you but I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: be on on negative stuff because I didn't want to
Speaker 4: kick the man while he was down. But right before,
Speaker 4: I like posted this video about how I was like,
Speaker 4: not really gonna entertain it.
Speaker 3: You had just you had just hit me up like
Speaker 3: the change don't do it and.
Speaker 4: It's just man, you know, negative energy needs something negative
Speaker 4: to like cling on to.
Speaker 3: Left you know what I'm saying, and you can almost.
Speaker 4: Almost get me. But right now I'm like, man, I
Speaker 4: got like a beautiful fan.
Speaker 2: You know what I was worried about. I was worried
Speaker 2: about you, worried about the internet trolls, like, so you
Speaker 2: know that when I called you, I was like, because
Speaker 2: I know se murder and murder. Have you ever messy murder?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 2: Well, I know that I know him very well, and
Speaker 2: I know you very well. Y'all niggas would have been
Speaker 2: best friends. I'm just telling you, Like so, so I
Speaker 2: was like when I seen that, I was like, it
Speaker 2: was my duty as I don't want to say O G,
Speaker 2: fuck that, O G, but it was my duty like
Speaker 2: to change you too powerful because if he would have said,
Speaker 2: if you would have just said fuck that, you could
Speaker 2: have tweeted fuck that and the world would have just came,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like down either on him
Speaker 2: or down on you.
Speaker 4: And it's and it's like we don't you must need that.
Speaker 4: He's my position now, but I feel like he shouldn't.
Speaker 4: You see the energy in a way this like negative.
Speaker 3: Like like using this engine.
Speaker 2: But me being in the can, I knew where he
Speaker 2: was coming from because all he's saying is, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, he ain't understand. He ain't hear your story.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was able to talk
Speaker 3: to on the phone.
Speaker 4: I was, but it's so many sizes of story because
Speaker 4: it's like, alright, you think I'm snacking off because see,
Speaker 4: somebody made an album cover that I would never make.
Speaker 4: It was like one of the album covers, like if
Speaker 4: you follow me, I try to be creative.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And honestly, like the name of my tr U is
Speaker 4: the real university. The acronyms is t r U. But
Speaker 4: I'm like most men as far as not want to
Speaker 4: explain myself to people. That's really like my thing that
Speaker 4: I'm still working with, Like I don't feel like like
Speaker 4: like even today it's like, man, I want to do
Speaker 4: the concert, but then I gotta.
Speaker 3: Really tell you're gonna take him on some really I
Speaker 3: want to tell him I want to see Beyon.
Speaker 2: I can hear his nigga say, Yo, this nigga want
Speaker 2: to My wife is there right now, my wife to
Speaker 2: the concert.
Speaker 3: And it's like I'm trying to work with like trying.
Speaker 4: To bounce that off, like still like this, like this
Speaker 4: not being no lose loss of respect thing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I got him on the phone. I'm letting them know,
Speaker 3: like my.
Speaker 4: TRU, we buy homes for people in need. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, My TRU, we get back to the community.
Speaker 4: My t are you doing different things like this?
Speaker 3: My tr you.
Speaker 4: Don't my tr You don't say I'm in camouflage. I
Speaker 4: have brothers that do anything that's that's connected. I haven't
Speaker 4: redone a composition from that era anything. It's literally just
Speaker 4: an acronym like.
Speaker 3: True TV and ain't nobody man at true TV.
Speaker 4: You think what I'm saying, But you can choose to
Speaker 4: have any bad energy towards me, and then I can
Speaker 4: choose to fall into it.
Speaker 3: I can choose to try to curve it.
Speaker 4: So it was cool that you came that way, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and I gotta understand that he
Speaker 4: and an old pressed mindset. I gotta understand where he
Speaker 4: come from. So if he want to like he like,
Speaker 4: I ain't never listen to the song, but it had
Speaker 4: went through my The quickest way.
Speaker 3: To get me piped up is through my girl.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like with any other black man,
Speaker 4: like we're cool, we go, you talk ship on, but
Speaker 4: then my girl get involved.
Speaker 2: I got to fuck you up't let me know.
Speaker 3: I ain't you know what I'm saying, And it's just
Speaker 3: like I'm my keyd girl. My mom alled them. They
Speaker 3: think I'm out mind because you did what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's what it was like, like damn, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like damn. So she got to bring it to me,
Speaker 3: so now I gotta So. I didn't even listen to
Speaker 3: it because I felt like that would be dis Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that helps if you don't listen to listen to
Speaker 2: it to hear like.
Speaker 4: The first part came on like something like Dick in
Speaker 4: the booty, and so my first thing, like me being
Speaker 4: having a sense of human I was like, fam, I
Speaker 4: haven't thought about booty all, you.
Speaker 2: Know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, so this stuff gonna make me think about stuff
Speaker 3: that I'm not even thinking about today, so I don't
Speaker 3: even need And it was like on the I G.
Speaker 3: When it was just playing the beginning of Her So
Speaker 3: I didn't go look up the song.
Speaker 4: Everybody else did and it was coming from like everybody
Speaker 4: else who wanted me to react. But it's like, what
Speaker 4: do you want me to do? Go to jail and
Speaker 4: do something, or wait that he comes out like somebody
Speaker 4: that has a family, a life or whatever they do,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Because I have friends in
Speaker 4: concentrated I pray that the man gets another opportunity to
Speaker 4: get out here on.
Speaker 2: The streets absolutely and be able to do it, because
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 4: It's it's like our right to spread our wings, to
Speaker 4: be able to breathe this fresh air, the baby, to
Speaker 4: sit here amongst men conversate and do we want to
Speaker 4: do as grown men and not be told? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so honestly, just to move on past this.
Speaker 4: I wish nothing but the best for him and his family,
Speaker 4: and we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna make some noise to that. You know, the craziest
Speaker 2: thing about it all was I seen c murder one
Speaker 2: time in the Sauce Awards in l A. And we
Speaker 2: have machine guns because this is a time where these
Speaker 2: niggas was robbing everybody, right, So I was just like,
Speaker 2: fucked that it ain't happening to us. So we somehow
Speaker 2: we had got some machine guns. So we thought we
Speaker 2: was ill. We went on a sea murdered tour bus.
Speaker 2: We was like, nigga, we scrapped. We showed the nigga
Speaker 2: machine guns that nigga pulled out rightfles like, what are
Speaker 2: your niggas doing? We got rifles and a nigga had
Speaker 2: an a K and and I was like, holy moly, moly.
Speaker 2: But when I did a video with you, uh to
Speaker 2: tell our video shoot, I came in to take a
Speaker 2: picture with you, your niggas had the same exact forgets.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, this this this is. That was
Speaker 2: God telling me these are the same people in quite
Speaker 2: different situations. But you should you have an ability to
Speaker 2: come help out, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 2: the reason why I called you, because you you could
Speaker 2: have said one thing, and I'm telling you, the internet
Speaker 2: would have been crazy. I applaued you for being a
Speaker 2: grown man. I applaued you for our uh. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say respecting your elders, but you know that's
Speaker 2: a person who came respect as a person who came.
Speaker 3: They paid away for a lot of us down South.
Speaker 4: Definitely, when they came in the door, that's when we
Speaker 4: started having the arguments.
Speaker 3: Master PI better than get out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: New York.
Speaker 4: But they would give us an argument because it wasn't
Speaker 4: that I don't think we understood like Ryan was a
Speaker 4: skill set. It was more of like hustling them boys
Speaker 4: came in and running it up. So like you talked
Speaker 4: to Master feede them. They said some of the stuff
Speaker 4: wasn't even mixed. It was just they were just you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And it's like they gave us
Speaker 4: something to argue about.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Master p came in. He
Speaker 3: gave us something to look up to.
Speaker 4: Ice cream in hustles, you know, gold cheeth, cardiers, all white,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Riding nice. His brother came
Speaker 4: in on the gangster ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We had to It's just like he put niggas on.
Speaker 4: You heard about what he did for niggas.
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Like now, I was,
Speaker 2: I was proud of you how you had the situation
Speaker 2: because you could give somebody advice and some people would
Speaker 2: just say whatever and say fuck you nigga. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But you you understood that, and and
Speaker 2: and and and and and and that is absolutely fantastic
Speaker 2: in my opinion.
Speaker 3: But has that happened to you though, because you intervened
Speaker 3: on a lot of these things?
Speaker 2: What no, I swear that was God. Like I didn't
Speaker 2: ask to go on his mass to a bus and
Speaker 2: like the same exact guns and see murder ad like,
Speaker 2: I didn't ask that. I went in there to take
Speaker 2: a picture. You know what I'm saying. But I felt
Speaker 2: the same exact that that same exact moment when I
Speaker 2: walked on change bus, I felt the same exact way
Speaker 2: when I walked on se Murder's bus. So when this
Speaker 2: incident occurred, I felt like that God had put me
Speaker 2: in that situation for that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because and I don't know, I think I was right.
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise for me thinking I was like
Speaker 2: you was trying and let me just tell you like
Speaker 2: this was the time, big up Tech again. Man Tech,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, I was I wouldn't you know.
Speaker 3: I'm I don't even remember that.
Speaker 2: I was trying to let me tell you something to change.
Speaker 2: You were so hot at the moment, my nigga and
Speaker 2: I had a record and I was chasing it. I
Speaker 2: was chasing this record down and I was blowing up
Speaker 2: this man phone. I was blowing up your phone, and
Speaker 2: Change said, I got you right. This is the only
Speaker 2: rapper ever in history. He said, nord y'all fuck you up.
Speaker 2: And that's what I knew. I said, this is my friend,
Speaker 2: right because listen, if you have a relationship with somebody
Speaker 2: over ten years and y'all don't have a little dispute,
Speaker 2: get away from that fake That's what I told my
Speaker 2: part the bottom.
Speaker 3: But you change.
Speaker 2: You always just been there, man Tech. Man, I appreciate you, guys. Man,
Speaker 2: You've always just been there. But that's the first part
Speaker 2: the rapper that ever said. And I told him, I said, yah,
Speaker 2: I specialize in fighting tallness, you know, And then he's he.
Speaker 2: Then I realized that that day on the court, you're
Speaker 2: actually not no fake play like that that that play
Speaker 2: when they show you on ESPN Duncan like you're actually
Speaker 2: a real you could.
Speaker 3: Have been to the NBA.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I if I've applied my work
Speaker 4: after the same work that I and I realized where
Speaker 4: it took to be a successful hoop. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: rapper because it's practiced, it's doing it every day no
Speaker 4: matter how good you are, Like God gives us a talent,
Speaker 4: like you were probably.
Speaker 3: Born a rapper. I wasn't born a rapper. I was
Speaker 3: just born somebody to inspire and hustle. But when I learned,
Speaker 3: when I got the game.
Speaker 4: I did it to our passed niggas that God gave
Speaker 4: a talent to. You know what I'm saying, Like God,
Speaker 4: because because you got you got, you got Jordan, Kobe,
Speaker 4: Lebron Okay. God gave all these niggas talent and they
Speaker 4: worked on their game. That's what made them who they
Speaker 4: are now. God gave I could name three other niggas
Speaker 4: talent and some of them not even in the league
Speaker 4: or they at the same level that they are that
Speaker 4: God gave. So with me, what you get is like
Speaker 4: what you get is like somebody like a Dennis Rodman
Speaker 4: who works on this game and becomes a valuable and
Speaker 4: not just that, but like a lot of like a
Speaker 4: lot of artists who find their net and just keep
Speaker 4: doing it. Like with this rap, I do it every
Speaker 4: single day. I do something every single day. I've been
Speaker 4: there here in three days. I'm probably done like four
Speaker 4: songs I geeked about all love them.
Speaker 3: I know I'm hard. I look at everybody in the room.
Speaker 3: I know niggas like I know I'm hard. Like I know,
Speaker 3: I tell you don't want to get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do something trying to tell us you can't
Speaker 4: like you can't with me, Like listen, like we friends, man,
Speaker 4: we gotta to pick on the versus short Let you
Speaker 4: know you don't want to get on something like for real. No,
Speaker 4: when I have time, I'm gonna mop your ship. Listen,
Speaker 4: I'm going I got I gotta.
Speaker 2: I got a slave to change because listen, First off,
Speaker 2: I haven't thought about writing a verse. And CBS is
Speaker 2: taking care of us. High five, stay taking care of us.
Speaker 2: I got a food show that I'm doing. If you're
Speaker 2: in town, I know you're rich and you're gonna fly out.
Speaker 2: But if you're in town Friday, we're having I'm doing
Speaker 2: my full show. It's what m TV is. The first
Speaker 2: time I announced it on this podcast. Uh, it's like
Speaker 2: an Anthony Boardine man verse. Fool you come out, we
Speaker 2: have drinks, advertise us, we have our grilled octopus and
Speaker 2: shit like that. It's Friday. If you still in town,
Speaker 2: I would love for you to come by and bug
Speaker 2: out and have one on camera. Yeah, so I'm into
Speaker 2: I'm into different things because I just feel like I'm
Speaker 2: thirty eight, right, and I'm a Santiago. But my maiden name,
Speaker 2: my mom's maiden name, is a Williams.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You ask anybody named Williams, they got bad knees. If
Speaker 2: they named Williams and they black, they got bad knees.
Speaker 2: My nigga, I'm telling you, so, I can't be on
Speaker 2: stage at forty chains. I can't be on stage keep
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's why I came up
Speaker 3: with all these lines.
Speaker 4: You know, lines is just about creating multiple streams of
Speaker 4: revenue for artists.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love being on stage because I love
Speaker 3: the attention.
Speaker 4: But it's not nothing that i'll you don't want to
Speaker 4: do well, I'm gonna do it my whole life, but
Speaker 4: I gotta have I can't but a hand on it.
Speaker 3: I gotta have other streams coming at some point.
Speaker 2: Does it feel like the stripper that was in the
Speaker 2: same club for ten years when you're on stage, Like
Speaker 2: I felt like that the other day. Like one day
Speaker 2: I was like, niggas, I'm gonna perform. Niggas like, yo,
Speaker 2: do bloody money. I'm like, all right, do bloody money.
Speaker 2: The niggas said do super Doug and I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 2: is these niggas doing money at me? So they got
Speaker 2: requests like shake you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like I felt like that.
Speaker 2: We was in Russia, oh day, yeah, but we was
Speaker 2: too deep so we had to do what at the fuck?
Speaker 3: They said?
Speaker 2: Just make some noise us being scared, but let's keep
Speaker 2: it real.
Speaker 5: Like I like.
Speaker 2: You, you haven't felt that feeling yet you're saying that.
Speaker 3: Way, you just know. Well.
Speaker 4: The thing with me is I remember when it was
Speaker 4: only fifteen people there, and I can tell them I
Speaker 4: don't care if it's fifteen or fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3: I'm gonn get you all a show.
Speaker 4: So if even if it Benjamin buns And goes from
Speaker 4: fifteen to one hundred and fifty thousand, and goes back
Speaker 4: fifteen again, I'm gonna still do the same thing because
Speaker 4: especially right now when you got the internet where somebody
Speaker 4: can record that show a few people and only record
Speaker 4: your body reacts, and that can lead to other things
Speaker 4: like most expensive stuff. See what happens is a lot
Speaker 4: of people play off the energy of the actual people
Speaker 4: in the room. You have to really play the energy
Speaker 4: to these cameras right now because when they post it
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, and they don't know who he
Speaker 4: has to look behind him today, They don't know how
Speaker 4: many people behind him, so they don't know if it's
Speaker 4: nobody I'm like this is bug boy, or if I'm
Speaker 4: like turned up because it's some beautiful strippers behind. They
Speaker 4: don't know you did you know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 4: he know is when they posted and they see me
Speaker 4: and whatever is you know what I'm saying. So by
Speaker 4: me understanding that I'm gonna get the people what they
Speaker 4: want no matter what kind of energy I'm giving them,
Speaker 4: it's like I'm having my own party on stage. You
Speaker 4: kind of crazy if you don't, if you don't get
Speaker 4: what's going.
Speaker 2: On, because you had like the most but fuddled bolivious
Speaker 2: you went there to use to use lawsuit. Ever, like
Speaker 2: the chick comes backstage, she wants to be there and
Speaker 2: snuck in, snuck in, snuck in Like that was the like,
Speaker 2: like that was the dumbest lawsuit I.
Speaker 4: Famh And I told her leave, like you know the cameras,
Speaker 4: like what y'all saw is what y'all saw. But it
Speaker 4: was more footage than that, but just other stories that
Speaker 4: I got two daughters of my own, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I'm very conscious of my female interaction period.
Speaker 4: I have a hower of respect for females, and I'm
Speaker 4: not a thirsty individual. I'm not trying to make nobody's book,
Speaker 4: broom or meal, none of that stuff. Friends, cool, whatever?
Speaker 4: Did you know what I'm saying? This particular person was
Speaker 4: back there. I'm not sure who she was looking for.
Speaker 4: All I asked her to do was basically leave. Because
Speaker 4: girls that move by theirself anyway, I always feel like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not girls should have a friend somebody. You can't just
Speaker 1: you can't just be back here right now, just you
Speaker 1: and you don't know nobody.
Speaker 4: Just imagine right now, back here with all these men standing,
Speaker 4: what his Manlleican is.
Speaker 3: Right here, but you don't know nobody in the room.
Speaker 2: H why was she back there? I didn't understand, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like I don't want And then it's like,
Speaker 4: I got a bunch of people up here from Atlanta.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that know my situation, what's
Speaker 4: going on. So let's just get you please, let's get
Speaker 4: you out of here. You know, she playing and wasting
Speaker 4: time and all of that and know, and it just
Speaker 4: became something that it kind of blew out of proportion,
Speaker 4: and she kind of, in my opinion, helped it go
Speaker 4: into proportion because I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: Once I did what I did. Once whatever happened happened,
Speaker 4: I was done with it. She kept bringing it up.
Speaker 4: She's actually swing again right now.
Speaker 3: For what for the song? Yeah, for the song.
Speaker 2: She's an idiots somewhere. You don't got to say it.
Speaker 4: She's an idiot, she's a folio, she's saying again, she
Speaker 4: thinks I'm trying to put the hit out on her.
Speaker 4: And it's likely I even had that kind of energy
Speaker 4: of time, like when I moved past something. I moved
Speaker 4: past something, and I feel I feel sorry for because
Speaker 4: whoever's looking to hearing this right now. I honestly and
Speaker 4: the reason I haven't pressed the issues, I honestly, honestly
Speaker 4: feel like something is wrong with it.
Speaker 3: I looked at her in the eyes before. And that's
Speaker 3: just my personal opinion, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I've heard the same thing from people in her neighborhood,
Speaker 4: people in her community, but not just saying it like.
Speaker 2: Because where was this at? Where did that happen?
Speaker 4: It was in North Carolina? Something is is like, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, not right. So that's why I
Speaker 4: can't be like stupid creep you know whatever. I don't
Speaker 4: want to do that because I feel like something kind
Speaker 4: of wrong with Now.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this being that little has something
Speaker 2: to do with to your beginning of a career. Lula
Speaker 2: is rich, he moved on, he's done seven Fast and
Speaker 2: Furious movies, you know all this, But in the music sense,
Speaker 2: he's kind of lost his space. Would signing Luda be
Speaker 2: something you would be interested in?
Speaker 3: No, Lucas Luda wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: He's a very proper He's a virgo too.
Speaker 4: He's boring right the day before me. So that's one
Speaker 4: of the things that made us click. But no, he wouldn't.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't do that, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: then Luda still one thing about Loula and one thing
Speaker 4: about this, and you know it's when we catch our
Speaker 4: a few little shows and have I we can go.
Speaker 4: We can go get us some money anytime, right, So
Speaker 4: Luda I watches and I watch him. He's with my
Speaker 4: homie fake they do. He's constantly doing shows. So I
Speaker 4: think it's dope that he's became such a high caliber
Speaker 4: actor because this could be his other stream of revenew
Speaker 4: that men you are talking about.
Speaker 2: But you gotta know that like once, once you was
Speaker 2: the man, and then you go on, you do something else.
Speaker 2: When you come back to the game, you're not quite
Speaker 2: the same. But she's like even even with you, like
Speaker 2: your affiliation with Kanye, like you were hot, bubbling on
Speaker 2: your own. But to tell you the truth, Kanye stole
Speaker 2: your aura. What I mean by that is your energy
Speaker 2: was like sometimes a person energy could be so good
Speaker 2: that all I gotta do is stand next to you.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna do nothing else. All I gotta do
Speaker 2: is stand next to you, and I take some of
Speaker 2: your aura.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre does it for real?
Speaker 3: Does it?
Speaker 2: Kanye does it if you're the hottest thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Who did he does it if you're the hottest thing
Speaker 2: in the world. Sometimes I don't. You don't even gotta
Speaker 2: do a verse for me. You don't got to do
Speaker 2: an interview. All you got to do is come to
Speaker 2: my studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming
Speaker 2: from you, and being that you don't think, you don't think.
Speaker 2: Little would just say, you know what, change, I'll let
Speaker 2: your executive producer. I heard you say he was A
Speaker 2: and R and.
Speaker 4: I had I'm gonna put this out here, and he
Speaker 4: knows like I did it before I left them.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I was supposed to.
Speaker 4: Be airn R in his last project, Luna Verse or
Speaker 4: something like this is before I left. And so it's
Speaker 4: a couple of thousand left over, and he'd be wanting
Speaker 4: this little money and stuff.
Speaker 3: It's a couple of thousand left over that he owes me.
Speaker 3: Whether I did the job or not.
Speaker 4: I was contractually buying to it. It was a few thousand.
Speaker 4: There weren't no big thousand. But as of right now,
Speaker 4: all my beats and straight you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It ain't merch. It ain't merch.
Speaker 3: But I got my front end.
Speaker 4: I seen you shock the other day. I see it,
Speaker 4: and I know they think like and then when I
Speaker 4: see like, I be so like, damn, I ain't seeing
Speaker 4: so long I forget to say it. But now now
Speaker 4: it's on my it's on my mind. It's a couple
Speaker 4: of thousands, that is whether because it's some beats that
Speaker 4: he did wrap over.
Speaker 3: That I sad him with. It was on the album,
Speaker 3: and so ye're gonna need that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Let's make some I ain't gonna lie see Lula Shaka,
Speaker 2: what's the other?
Speaker 3: What's the other?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I seen all of them in Toronto All Star weekend.
Speaker 2: So we eat in the same restaurant. I send them
Speaker 2: two bottles. They sent me two bottles. I sent them
Speaker 2: two more bottles of the Rachel said they are done.
Speaker 2: They don't want no more. And you know, they so rich,
Speaker 2: they should have just took the bottles and sent me
Speaker 2: two more. But they stopped. Like you know, they are
Speaker 2: very they are setting their ways and they are cool.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: It was great to see him big up to Lula,
Speaker 2: big up to the whole staff, or you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But I think I think Luders should signed
Speaker 2: to you. You know, I know it was a question
Speaker 2: that I asked you, But I think he should sign
Speaker 2: because how dope was that when Puff put on Big
Speaker 2: and then and then Big wrote for Puff and was
Speaker 2: gonna executive I was gonna manage Puff. That moment that
Speaker 2: the hip hop for me was like, that's what it's
Speaker 2: all about. I put you on, you know better than me,
Speaker 2: Let me help out.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So dope too.
Speaker 2: He just needs the right records. Lula is dope. I
Speaker 2: think I think that. I think that what you don't
Speaker 2: realize to change is you're actually a producer. What I
Speaker 2: mean by that is once you have more than three
Speaker 2: or four hits, five hits, it doesn't matter, it's your
Speaker 2: voice actually helps the producer. You tell the producer what
Speaker 2: to do. And I think that you can do that.
Speaker 2: That's what Fad Joe has finally realized, is that he's
Speaker 2: a producer. Because see, people think producing is this, but
Speaker 2: it's not. It's turned out that base, put up that trebles.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, put more on the horns,
Speaker 2: make you know what I'm saying. That's what producing is.
Speaker 2: And then when you have it, that's why you have
Speaker 2: so many like great producers. That was what a puff
Speaker 2: Daddy or what a dre or what an earth Gotti
Speaker 2: or what a shy money excel? And then these producers
Speaker 2: lead and then these deuces. These producers are working on
Speaker 2: ups is because it's the chemistry which makes it work.
Speaker 2: So I want to applaud you for continue to do
Speaker 2: with your thing, doing your thing, and I think that
Speaker 2: you should. I think Lula, if you're listening to this,
Speaker 2: I think you tru right. I'm starting to room right now. Listen,
Speaker 2: Lula is signing the t are you We're starting to
Speaker 2: room right now. We don't know if it's gonna become
Speaker 2: true when we're starting a room on Lula and you're
Speaker 2: gonna pick up Seana too. You wanna pick up Sean.
Speaker 3: You're gonna leave DTP had they run too. Man, I
Speaker 3: was around there with everybody. That's I learned a lot.
Speaker 4: Fan That's I don't really have nothing negative to say
Speaker 4: because I was around you to know when CHINGI was
Speaker 4: very successful in doing numbers, and Bobby V and a
Speaker 4: few other cats that was, you know, doing things, and
Speaker 4: I learned everything from I learned everything from product placement
Speaker 4: to you know what I'm saying, certain deal structures and everything.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So for me, I try
Speaker 4: to learn from each experience with the good or bad, like.
Speaker 2: You left them, like when you like, I hate when
Speaker 2: rappers leave a crew and then they be like, man,
Speaker 2: fuck that cruel.
Speaker 3: That cool.
Speaker 4: You didn't do that because we all still got the
Speaker 4: same phone number and that's yeah, and we're gonna see
Speaker 4: each other at the game.
Speaker 2: I just want to applaud you for that because I
Speaker 2: hate when a person is down with EFN. I'm just
Speaker 2: using you for example. Calm down when the rappers down
Speaker 2: with EFN and then they leave EFN and they're like, man,
Speaker 2: fuck ef he got great hair in his bear and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's like what you
Speaker 2: was with this guy for ten years. It's like if
Speaker 2: it didn't work out, it didn't work out like I did.
Speaker 2: I did a business deal with jay Z right, it
Speaker 2: was horrible. It doesn't make him a bad business man,
Speaker 2: doesn't make me a bad businessman. It makes the situation
Speaker 2: that we had bad. Other than that, everything stays the same,
Speaker 2: Like I ain't got nothing as bad to say about him.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he ain't got nothing bad to say about me.
Speaker 2: Powerful I want him to call me no more, to
Speaker 2: hold them me, leave me alone. I'm so scared of you.
Speaker 2: Oh but listen, so I was. I want to applaud
Speaker 2: you because you was one of the dudes that actually
Speaker 2: stepped outside said you know what I'm gonna do me
Speaker 2: and you never actually should have on them. I gotta
Speaker 2: make some noise for that. Why do you think because
Speaker 2: I'm sure you was frustrated because of the reason why
Speaker 2: you left. Why you think you never took that approach?
Speaker 4: M I think me knowing or me assuming that they
Speaker 4: think that I would do that, we'll just drive them
Speaker 4: crazy enough.
Speaker 3: Just now, you got to listen to everything.
Speaker 4: All the way through to see if it's a shot
Speaker 4: taken when you're not even on my mind, right, So
Speaker 4: that was still like another psychological anger for me to
Speaker 4: just know that I'm not gonna say nothing, but you
Speaker 4: got to listen to.
Speaker 3: Make sure that none of this has anything to do
Speaker 3: with you today. I still do that.
Speaker 4: I never I never have anything negative say, but I
Speaker 4: know you just got to make sure it's just one
Speaker 4: of them things where you know I'm kind of low lose.
Speaker 3: You're not sure where I am mentally because you're not around,
Speaker 3: so you don't know.
Speaker 4: It's like the family changed me or if this incident
Speaker 4: make me back whack again, like you don't know what
Speaker 4: I'm on and I kind of like that.
Speaker 2: Right well two change. Let me just tell you, man,
Speaker 2: I call you the new King of the South. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're gonna take that astribute now, Tea
Speaker 2: the King of the South. I respect to y'all too.
Speaker 2: I ain't say I said the new king, yeah and old.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of guys doing it honestly coming from you,
Speaker 4: and I ain't mean to break you off. I appreciate that, man.
Speaker 4: You know what, I remember, I got some stories about
Speaker 4: me and your mother.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: You're gonna barrass men, lie or like I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: lie when I go to New York. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: saying he won the first New York Cats giving me
Speaker 4: some fucking with and I always wanted some fun with
Speaker 4: from New.
Speaker 2: York Cats because okay, they gotta break down.
Speaker 3: That's hard. What is that like? Somebody with you?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know what I'm saying. I link up
Speaker 3: with the boy in New York, me come kick it
Speaker 3: with him. You know what I'm saying. He got everybody Muslin,
Speaker 3: his whole crew.
Speaker 2: Goddamn. Let you know to Chain's been for sure, he's
Speaker 2: been a continue. He's taking a mon down of text guy.
Speaker 3: It's okay, so.
Speaker 4: And so, like you know, I'm going around with him
Speaker 4: and it's like at this particular time, at this particular time,
Speaker 4: I drunk, I call you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 4: all that trunk at this particular time was.
Speaker 3: Hendessy, you know what I'm saying. And doesn't even know this.
Speaker 4: So like he taking me to these little lobbies, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, hotel lobbies in New York.
Speaker 3: He's a little bars and ship like this. So I
Speaker 3: don't even know.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm trying to you know, he's trying to
Speaker 4: show me, really this how you do. You don't have
Speaker 4: to stay here, you can come here, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to places and he's like these these
Speaker 3: people don't have hendessy. You know I'm saying. Really, like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you need to try to
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Penot grease, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying peano grep. I'm saying, I.
Speaker 4: Drink this ship. I don't drink at all. When I drink,
Speaker 4: I drink peanot grease yo. So he got me on
Speaker 4: this peanut greaseo ship.
Speaker 3: Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We go some wheels and he tell me, you know
Speaker 4: about something Tiger part ship tag what I'm saying, Pam,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you know about.
Speaker 3: Tackle bone fan.
Speaker 6: Hard calling you change some of that. So I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: I said, you gotta have a vic you gotta have a.
Speaker 2: Victim for you take this just can't be on top
Speaker 2: of the Tiger ball.
Speaker 3: Don't have nothing to ball. Know what I'm saying, Fam,
Speaker 3: I'm changing. I don't give me this ship. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I ain't got no victor on the list.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I gotta deal with this pressure.
Speaker 3: You did, you know what I'm saying. And I started
Speaker 3: really like, man, this nigga, he is crazy. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I went to the studio. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It was crazy, bro home was really
Speaker 3: crazy for want to the studio. I was done, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I would just want to
Speaker 3: get some of that that New York culture.
Speaker 4: But I just hung around the guys. I was observing
Speaker 4: And Nori is the reason why I drank Peanut Grease.
Speaker 2: I need Nori, y'all, I need something. Come on, I'll
Speaker 2: have you, but to change. That's what I a maya
Speaker 2: about you is You're not afraid to step out your zone.
Speaker 2: What was that video you just had? You shot it
Speaker 2: on Fort Lauderdale Beach. Oh, I'm different, yo, My dude,
Speaker 2: that ship epitomized who you are. Is like you you're different,
Speaker 2: Like you went to Fort Laudadale Beach on a boat
Speaker 2: and it wasn't in the water that was hard. I
Speaker 2: was sitting back, like, I'm just so proud of you
Speaker 2: because you know why, I seen your grind and as
Speaker 2: much as I I saw it, I knew I didn't
Speaker 2: have to power to help, as like a jay Z
Speaker 2: could help, wall A Lula could help. And you saw
Speaker 2: the cracks in the motherfucking tunnel and where you at.
Speaker 2: I always text you, and I know I know you
Speaker 2: probably be proud of I mean, I know you probably
Speaker 2: be like I'm tired of these texts, but I always
Speaker 2: be like, I'm proud of you, brother. Keep going because
Speaker 2: I want you to be the richest dude in the
Speaker 2: fucking world. I want you to be the illest guy
Speaker 2: in the fucking world and to keep doing it because
Speaker 2: I know that you're a real nigga. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I told this like people like, when
Speaker 2: fat your wins, I win, When two chains win, I win.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, my dude, we don't need I don't
Speaker 2: need nothing. I appreciate and respect what you're doing to
Speaker 2: this game. I want you to continue to do that
Speaker 2: and put your foot on a fucking neck and just
Speaker 2: keep it dead, but preferably Timberling's when you do that,
Speaker 2: because fuck these niggas change Keep doing what you gotta do. Man,
Speaker 2: Now what is for to change? What is?
Speaker 4: And we well, we gotta. I'm shooting a movie. I'm
Speaker 4: shooting like your movie or you and somebody, No, I'm shooting.
Speaker 4: I'm shooting my movie at the end of May in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Will take a week to do. If we don't get.
Speaker 2: Let me be the Leo Grimy nigga. Maybe the New
Speaker 2: York Grammy nigga in the movie Grimmy nigga that moved
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, let me me the New York
Speaker 2: grimmy nigga that come through because I can't change my accent.
Speaker 2: But ahead, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4: But it's a movie called Apartments Apartments now no a
Speaker 4: part part Okay said.
Speaker 2: I gotta be a nigga in five me o, me
Speaker 2: ho and fat y'all all from five E. So if
Speaker 2: you got it, that's hard. We're all from five.
Speaker 3: That's hard.
Speaker 2: Secret. You gotta give you the secret, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So yeah, so tell me about this movie.
Speaker 4: I think I got a movie coming out, like if
Speaker 4: you didn't get a chance to see Walk in Your
Speaker 4: Trap and take Over Your Trap. It was a bank
Speaker 4: Rolls film that my same team shot put together in shot.
Speaker 4: So this was a movie that I had been writing
Speaker 4: for some time. I liked bank Row actually gave him
Speaker 4: a chance and it came out hard wow. And so
Speaker 4: you know how you just take somebody to give you
Speaker 4: a chance and then like for me, sometimes I'm the
Speaker 4: one to give people a chance and sometime I.
Speaker 3: Got a agency. What's going on? Like everybody else, you
Speaker 3: did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it's a comedy or street Nah, it's like a
Speaker 4: street it's like the whole concept is taking place inside
Speaker 4: of the inside of an apartment complex.
Speaker 3: It's like some trials and tribulations.
Speaker 4: Up like every day, like you know, kind of like
Speaker 4: showing the inner inner city trappings and where it really
Speaker 4: comes from, because trapping really came from apartment complex as
Speaker 4: you come in and it was before you know, even
Speaker 4: before you had that's why they named the trap houses.
Speaker 4: And then trap houses turned the bando and you can
Speaker 4: just talk about how it form. But originally a trap
Speaker 4: was an apartment complex that that was the only place
Speaker 4: that you can really trap. You go to a part
Speaker 4: and complex, even when you didn't stay there. That's what
Speaker 4: people came kind of like how the Carter dictator. So
Speaker 4: it's like you know, you come in. You know, earlier
Speaker 4: when I started trapping, it was a situation where you
Speaker 4: actually ran to cars.
Speaker 3: It would be.
Speaker 4: Forty niggas running the one car trying to serve somebody.
Speaker 4: It got real messy, and then you started organizing the trap.
Speaker 4: You started going one at a time, or you get
Speaker 4: the next car, I get the next car, You get
Speaker 4: the next car, not knowing what car would come in,
Speaker 4: but hoping that the next car had money. But being
Speaker 4: in the trap. You already know what cars spent money,
Speaker 4: you already knew who comes. And then it went from
Speaker 4: from you know, I'm from the Beeper era, I'm from
Speaker 4: the payphone era. I'm from the star Trek era with
Speaker 4: the flip phonextar tech.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know all of that. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so although we won't give that whole.
Speaker 4: You know, the whole history of trapping, We're gonna show
Speaker 4: you some you know, a good storyline.
Speaker 2: Yo, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It's hard, but whatever noise that, I'm gonna need something
Speaker 3: that's drinking.
Speaker 4: And so it's just it's just it has a great storyline.
Speaker 4: It's gonna have some comedy in it, because I'll enjoy companies. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And and it's coming out and so I'm doing music
Speaker 4: and soundtrack. So I'm doing music and I'm doing some
Speaker 4: soundtrack stuff for it right now because I'm thinking ahead.
Speaker 4: And then I'm also doing another album this year. So
Speaker 4: Collie Grove is out right now. It's my dedication to
Speaker 4: my friend, my brother, one of my favorite rappers, Little Wayne.
Speaker 3: Make sure you get that Collie Grove.
Speaker 4: And then my next album and film will be dropping
Speaker 4: this year, so be looking out for and then CEO.
Speaker 4: Make sure you get CEO Millionaires dot com look at com. Also,
Speaker 4: Strip Club Veterans is my other line that I'll be
Speaker 4: launching mad first.
Speaker 3: Strip Club Veteran.
Speaker 2: One of those shirts I got, I got one for you, Got.
Speaker 4: One for you, treple Velly, treple Velly is. It's on
Speaker 4: It's on Peter Street. That's my pop up store.
Speaker 2: It's got three million niggas listening to change and keep it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm lying.
Speaker 3: Get the paperworking. Make sure nah man, I don't care
Speaker 3: four people listening. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I really thank you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: We really need that movie because you know why. Let
Speaker 2: me just tell ya something like South, the West, the East.
Speaker 2: There's no motherfucking difference. The only difference is some people
Speaker 2: speak like this, some people don't, right, but about it?
Speaker 2: About it was single handedly the first time New York
Speaker 2: people was like, the South is crazy, So is it
Speaker 2: like about it? About it? This movie you're talking about
Speaker 2: or it's like this is Friday morning?
Speaker 3: What about about it?
Speaker 4: It moved a culture because it showed the accent. Is
Speaker 4: showed how they moved to New Orleans. It was good
Speaker 4: for the culture in Atlanta to be cool too. Everybody
Speaker 4: know that we break a lot of word show the
Speaker 4: Real Atlantic, and that's important for me.
Speaker 3: You know. That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what I told you apartments because no one ever
Speaker 4: said apartments in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: That's hard ever.
Speaker 2: And the like we taking from an apartment, we spread
Speaker 2: in the room right now, apartments. He is in there.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm to Janda, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm the New York Puerto Rican guys. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 2: but let's make noise for to change.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for my brother. At the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you really didn't have to do this.
Speaker 3: Was it was.
Speaker 2: He was doing million dollar ship, shooting six videos with
Speaker 2: little Wayne, taking your part out and looking at the
Speaker 2: most beautifulest women in the world Beyonce to perform, and
Speaker 2: you still stopped, and you had you had tech call,
Speaker 2: you had yourself called. It was so u down with this,
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate that because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, this is where the artists when when a
Speaker 2: DJ comes on here, they win. This is and people
Speaker 2: who want to come on this show. I'm being wanted
Speaker 2: to say, honest, yes, I have favoritism, and I'm interviewing
Speaker 2: the people that I want to interview. High five e off.
Speaker 2: We interview on legends. There's a lot of legends out there.
Speaker 2: But guess what, I want to interview the legends that
Speaker 2: I fuck with that I talk to, and I got
Speaker 2: so many of them. And I just want to thank
Speaker 2: you for being a great sport. You let me ask
Speaker 2: you any question. You ain't stop me, you ain't be
Speaker 2: like I ain't gonna talk about that. And I just
Speaker 2: want to thank you because you're a real nigga. And
Speaker 2: I see that activists working. It is fantastic. So describe
Speaker 2: the activist high before we leave. What does it do
Speaker 2: for you? It's right there, right there. I wanted to
Speaker 2: gas them to take a shot. Who did I get?
Speaker 2: I guess almost gas Cars wanted to smoke with me
Speaker 2: a D he did, Yeah, I got.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 2: Listen Car, listen right sweating from his neck like yo,
Speaker 2: when you next way, you know you fucked up? Like
Speaker 2: it's next star to sweat. That was like, Chris, you
Speaker 2: gotta go. I gave it because I know like if
Speaker 2: your next sweat, you've drawn to change once again. Ef N,
Speaker 2: thank you for having another great podcast. Everybody that's in
Speaker 2: the building that's makes some noise, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 2: it's made some noise because I'm declaring that this is
Speaker 2: the new King of the South. There's no disrespect to
Speaker 2: anybody else that claimed that. From t I to whatever
Speaker 2: I'm saying, he's the new King of the South. Based
Speaker 2: on consistency, based on features, based on hits, based on activity,
Speaker 2: based on progress. To me, this is the new King
Speaker 2: of the South. And this is our first just South person.
Speaker 2: Remember we had gunplay when we had him look upon.
Speaker 2: This is our first South edition. So if you from
Speaker 2: down South and you don't download this, and you don't
Speaker 2: subscribe this, We're going to shave you all over one
Speaker 2: love everybody. Drink Chests podcast, Going Down.
Speaker 3: Change, Thank you, join us check We love you baby.
Speaker 2: I need to be in that movie. I'm been serious.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be texting you and it's going down hazard.
Speaker 3: It sounds yo, change. Thank you so much.
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