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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show

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Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season

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Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: And with Emily Simpson. And I didn't get the memo

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Speaker 2: I was supposed to get full glam.

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know. Can you let me know next time?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you didn't know what I was going to

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Speaker 1: be in the full glad.

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Speaker 2: I will Emily.

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Speaker 1: I look up like this clearly.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That's not full glam. She always

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Speaker 2: looks like that.

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Speaker 1: I look like this every pod. And I actually I

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Speaker 1: am offended that you think that I don't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't have full glamb because I spent the

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Speaker 2: last two nights with a son who threw up every

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Speaker 2: night for a two nights in a row.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm well, so you're really you're really feeling your best?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I mean, and I hope you don't take

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Speaker 1: offense to this, but I didn't actually glamb. For the

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Speaker 1: podcast of reasons.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what I figured.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does. The crazy thing about glam is

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Speaker 1: you forget you. You get glammed all the time. Now

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Speaker 1: when you're filming, when you haven't been glammed for a while,

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Speaker 1: you're like, gosh, makeup and hair really does make your different.

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Speaker 2: Shit, it does. You're like, oh, there she is there. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Like I walk out.

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Speaker 1: And one's like, what are you doing? Yeah, you're not

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Speaker 1: your emerge padramas and dirty hair on top of your

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Speaker 1: head and a messy butN okay, can you even with

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Speaker 1: last night?

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Speaker 2: In the episodes, they're good. I gotta give them that.

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Speaker 1: They're good. Well, before we get into the actual breakdowns

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Speaker 1: of the episodes, let's talk a little bit about the headlines. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So this first one is from People magazine article. Arion

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Speaker 1: and Maddox says Rachel is trying to blame her and

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Speaker 1: revenge peorn lawsuit. She is responding, and she says, according

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Speaker 1: to the filing, Ariana was devastated and immediately confronted Sandoval

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Speaker 1: and Levis about their alleged betrayal, as well as informing

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Speaker 1: her friends and colleagues. However, the attorneys claimed she did

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Speaker 1: not share or show any of the video footage she

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Speaker 1: found with anyone but Levis. In fact, Miss Maddox could

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Speaker 1: not have shared such footage because mister Sandoval deleted it

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Speaker 1: from her phone within minutes of Miss Maddox confronting him,

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Speaker 1: a fact, Miss Mattocks stated and writing thirty three minutes

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Speaker 1: after sending the video to Levis. The filing alleges. Attorneys

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Speaker 1: from Maddix claim that once the news of the affair broke,

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Speaker 1: much of the public discussion about Levis was negative, but

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Speaker 1: she was thrilled to be in the public eye. All

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Speaker 1: of this we knew was coming. But what I didn't

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Speaker 1: know was coming was going to be screenshots, timeline proof.

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Speaker 2: And this is.

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Speaker 1: Where it's kind of a doozy. So the first you

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Speaker 1: see the text messages between Arianna and Rachel, and it said,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're talking about whatever. We're gonna watch watch

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Speaker 1: what Happens live right now? Oh nice, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: find the whole episode on YouTube. Same it's not on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: If you have Spectrum, it'll be on at three ah

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Speaker 1: forty more minutes. You know, like they're just whatever.

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Speaker 2: Normal normal chit chat. Is this DMS or is this

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Speaker 2: text texts. These are texts. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then Saturday, February twenty fifth, at ten oh one pm, yay,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy you're coming with Brad and Jamie. And then

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Speaker 1: Wednesday at nine thirty seven pm, there's a text from

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Speaker 1: Ariana to Rachel you are dead to me all in caps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that comes in at nine thirty seven. Then Friday

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Speaker 1: at eight fifty six pm. So this is Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: nine thirty seven, then Friday at eight fifty six Rachel response, Ariana,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say right now. Besides, I

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Speaker 1: really stup and I am so so sorry. Arian A response,

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Speaker 1: which looks like immediately because there's no time stamp shut

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Speaker 1: the guping rat. All of this I understand, but this

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Speaker 1: is what really got me. Then look right below it

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Speaker 1: and it says you stop sharing your location with Rachel Levis.

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Speaker 1: To me, that was the biggest like aha moment was

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Speaker 1: Rachel sharing her location back with Arianna and did like

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Speaker 1: you For anybody that thought that Ariana knew or was

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Speaker 1: it in on this or whatever it may be, there's

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Speaker 1: no freaking way you are sharing your location with someone

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Speaker 1: you think is sleeping with your significant other.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I don't share my location

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Speaker 2: is that that must be like a younger generation thing.

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Speaker 1: Well I have it. I have it with a couple

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Speaker 2: None of what's the purpose though, Just to make.

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Speaker 1: Sure that you're always okay, or say, for if you're

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Speaker 1: like on your way whatever it may be. Like I

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Speaker 1: definitely do with my kids. I do it with Edwin,

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Speaker 1: and then I have like five friends that we share

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Speaker 1: our location.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I share my location with anyone, not

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Speaker 2: my kids or Shane.

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Speaker 1: But okay, fine, I'm going to send you a location request.

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Speaker 2: And I will deny it immediately.

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Speaker 1: Like are you going places you don't want me to know?

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Speaker 2: No? But I mean, does everyone need to know I'm

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Speaker 2: at Trader Joe's for like the fourth time this week.

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Speaker 1: But to prove that she did not send those videos

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Speaker 1: out to anyone other than Rachel, Arianna has text. There's

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Speaker 1: text going to Daddy, which my guest is Daddy is Logan.

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Speaker 1: Logan's Ariana's best friend who has always been super nice

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Speaker 1: to me. We see him pop up in vander Pumpoles

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Speaker 1: from time to time. I called her She says, I

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Speaker 1: called her after finding out and texting her the videos

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Speaker 1: of herself from Tom's phone, that I took Tom took

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Speaker 1: my phone and deleted them, chased him all the way

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Speaker 1: down Sam Vincente. So this is her proof that she

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Speaker 1: was unable to send these screen grabs to anyone other

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Speaker 1: than Rachel, Right, So, I don't know, I just I

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Speaker 1: guess I was blown away that Rachel would even I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Like to me, Rachel having her location and

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Speaker 1: Tom the entire time during her affair with Tom is

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Speaker 2: You think that's super icky that she knew so she

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Speaker 2: always knew where Arianna was, but she she couldn't have

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Speaker 1: I mean, she always gonna have been with Tom. And

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Speaker 1: then that lead me led me to the next question,

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Speaker 1: if you're location person, did she have Tom's location? And

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Speaker 1: then what was Rachel's reasoning for not sharing her location back?

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Speaker 2: Well, her reason was because she was sleeping with Tom.

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Speaker 1: Well clearly, but like now I really need to know, like, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: did you share your location back? And then how did

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Speaker 2: I mean, how did she get away with not sharing

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Speaker 2: her location but knowing where everybody else's location was. So

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Speaker 2: you're saying she's not really so much of the innocent

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Speaker 2: we're allowing her to be. Like, this is proving that

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Speaker 2: she was in it more, she knew what she was doing.

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Speaker 2: She wants to talk about how she was manipulated, but

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Speaker 2: it looks as if she kind of was more in

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Speaker 1: Clearly, if you are tracking where the guy you're sleeping

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Speaker 1: all times, and you know how far away she is

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Speaker 1: car or wherever it may be, there's something really that's

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Speaker 1: actually like stick in the head.

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Speaker 2: What is there the possibility that maybe all these people

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Speaker 2: remember that she knew her location or she was shared

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Speaker 1: That's like saying, oh, my boyfriend broke up with me

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Speaker 1: and I never go look at his Instagram page to

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Speaker 1: see his new girlfriend. No, no, no, if.

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Speaker 2: You see, I would never do that. I don't like

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Speaker 2: to self inflict pain.

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Speaker 1: Oh I do. I love it. I love it. It really

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about someone who Last night I

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Speaker 1: had to teach myself how to use Patreon. I know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get off topic for a second, but I

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Speaker 1: had to go deep down a rabbit hole because someone

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Speaker 1: did a twelve part series on the rise and Ruin

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Speaker 1: of Rachel Hollis and Dave Hollis. Like I didn't even

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Speaker 1: and like I couldn't even help myself. I was like,

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Speaker 1: he's like, you're still listening. I was like, I need

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, no time for sleep when

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Speaker 2: I don't even know them.

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Speaker 1: My point is, Rachel, you probably should have left this lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: Just let it go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the best thing to do is just

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Speaker 2: But the like the lawsuit is just that's a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And while we're on the topic of her, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll go back up to the other headlines. But I

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Speaker 1: just want to stay on her or why we're speaking

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Speaker 1: She's now dating CEO Investment Matthew Done. The two met

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Speaker 1: through friends, and I've been enjoying their time together. Levis

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Speaker 1: publicist Juliete Harris confirmed that the situationship to et, but

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Speaker 1: emphasize that assigning labels is premature. Harris stated that the

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Speaker 1: getting to know each other as friends. Also, I don't

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Speaker 1: think when you have kids. What I saw online appears

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Speaker 1: If you've met his children, then I'm sorry if both like, no,

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Speaker 1: matter what you are now together with his children, don't

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Speaker 1: call it the situationship. It just feels icky to me,

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Speaker 1: but also old.

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Speaker 2: How old are the children? Are we talking small children?

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Speaker 1: No, they don't appear soon for young children, Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know that answer.

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Speaker 2: How do you not know that? The way you dig

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Speaker 2: and you don't know that?

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Speaker 1: Because I could, I didn't really, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: saw Rachel, and then I thought, hasn't she maybe learned

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Speaker 2: Well, he did make his profile private, right, well probably,

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Speaker 2: but she shared.

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Speaker 1: She shared a clip on social media of herself writing

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's Shane. Shane watches, right, someone in your

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Speaker 2: Well, he definitely Well, I mean no, I don't really

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Speaker 1: I mean, half the time they were talking about the Valley.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could see clearly in this episode,

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Speaker 2: Why would that doesn't make sense to me. I can't

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Speaker 2: I know it's very start being nicer to you now

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope there's a reunion. I do want to

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Speaker 1: see it. The Valley's Jesse Lally steps out with a

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know what. I don't know her personally, but

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Speaker 1: And like, what is an Orange County socialite? Like I

434
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: think socialite, I like go back to like Tinsley Mortimer

435
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: in New York And but like, I what I think

436
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: that's a requirement to be an Orange County socialite.

437
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: Hark mentions no char no job, hair, hair extensions. It's

438
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of Instagram photos of everywhere that

439
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: you've been with your broken okay bike, you and your

440
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: Berken on a travel vlog, and then you throw in

441
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: a couple charity events in there and call yourself a

442
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: philanthropist and it's all good, perfect, well perfect.

443
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see more of Lacey. Oh. She is

444
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: friends with several BRA celebrities, including Gretchen Rossy and Caroline Stanberry. However,

445
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: despite her blonde, bombshell looks and tic social life, Lacy

446
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: has no plans to follow Jesse into the world of

447
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: reality television.

448
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah right, shit, exactly.

449
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: You saw him and you were like, you know what, Yeah,

450
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: this seems like a quality person for me. I had

451
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: no interest in being on television, but I do have

452
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: interest on being a socialite on my social media. The

453
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: source also insisted there's no bad blood between Lacy and

454
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Jesse's a strange wife fro Michelle. Of course, there is

455
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: that Michelle hates him.

456
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does she love? So does she know Michelle?

457
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: She loves Michelle and thinks she's great. There's no issues

458
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: from her end. What does that mean?

459
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: I think they're just they must all hang out or

460
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: co parent or who knows what? Did you also see

461
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: the Insta story that Jesse posted, or he's.

462
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: Get the working out, the.

463
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: Working out and he's like, since La La can't set

464
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 3: have small shoulders, and it's like him doing this move

465
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: and then it says like, by the way, the average

466
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: mail is five to six and I'm at least five ten.

467
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: Or I was like, first of all, there is no

468
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: way that the average mail is five to six.

469
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: We need to actually can someone let us know that.

470
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: That can't because Shane is five p seventy. You're not

471
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: telling me that his height is above average. There is

472
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: no effing way.

473
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to find out that information.

474
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: Oh five nine, that makes more sense.

475
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: Five nine in the US?

476
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh well, what country was he googling?

477
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Jesse? If you're gonna put it on Instagram, at least

478
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: be kind of rite about it, like the yeah, yeah yeah.

479
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: Then Sandoval open up opens up about his new girlfriend

480
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: on the vander Pump Rules after show. He talks about

481
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Victoria Lee Robinson at the waterfront there were those girls

482
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the table, referencing the chat

483
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: he and Tom Schwartz had with the group at the bar.

484
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: They stayed in contact, and he says pretty much every

485
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: nice thing you could say about somebody that you're dating.

486
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: Is she does she light up the room when she

487
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: walks in? Yeah, okay there.

488
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: And she also briefly dated Leonardo DiCaprio. He didn't brush

489
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: over that question, he was happy to answer it. My

490
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: favorite part of this after you Know, after this video

491
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: was Jack's and Tom's faces. Tom Schwartz's face during it,

492
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: like both of them are like like for them to

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: know this is not great. It's pretty funny.

494
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: Also included in the after show, they talk about the

495
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: trademark of Something about Her being owned by Penny and

496
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: her husband, who is an attorney, which poses some serious problems.

497
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: Brock also compares Schwartz and Sandival's troubles opening Schwartz and

498
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Sandy's and Tom running off to be with his band Tikitty,

499
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: and Ariana's troubles opening something about her with Ariana running

500
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: off to New York. I actually thought this was really

501
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: interesting because even in the episode for vander Pump, which

502
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: we get into, they make it as if Penny is

503
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: just like they just reached out to her for like consulting,

504
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: but clearly it's way more in depth than they let on.

505
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Which I think is why Katie was unable to really

506
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: share anything with us about this, and Penny did all

507
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: of lvp's menus at all of her restaurants. So how

508
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: much does this mean that Penny is really involved? What's

509
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: at stake, what's going to happen from here? And also

510
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: how much say it does did LVP then have in

511
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: something about her?

512
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: Right? Well? And also I have to give Brock credit.

513
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: Didn't he say that he pulled the permit and this

514
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: is how he got this information.

515
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: He goes, you can look up the trademark. Just go

516
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: to the trademark website.

517
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: You can check it out.

518
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: You search the website. I was like Brock, Brock had

519
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: a lot.

520
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Of free time. That's what happens when Brock doesn't have

521
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: a job.

522
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: Rock has been kind of the person that's giving us

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: the information throughout this season, Like he's he's leaked a

524
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: couple things, and I think, you know what, he was

525
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: ready to go ahead and leak Penny's real position at

526
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: something about her and then even came up with some

527
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: new names for something about her that they could utilize.

528
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: But it is opening May twenty second, so congratulations to them.

529
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: Do we think it's really actually opening May twenty second.

530
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be. I mean, I said

531
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: on watch What Happens Live last night, Yeah, that's true.

532
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: I feel like it has to I wonder how much

533
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: pity is involved though, Now I want to know, like,

534
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: is she not involved at all anymore? Did they cut

535
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: her out completely? Does she just own part of the trademark?

536
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Does she is she considered a partner? Is she just

537
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: a consultant? How does the husband fit in?

538
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is I this is a total guess.

539
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: I have no there's no source that told me nothing.

540
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: It's just my gut instinct is assuming they had to

541
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: pay her off in some capacity to go away, that's

542
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: my guess. Could be wrong. Let's get into the actual episode.

543
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Starts off with Katie and Arianna arrive at something about

544
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: her and meet up with Anne.

545
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Anne.

546
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to figure out what to do with

547
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: the awning. Arianna thought they would be opening up something

548
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: about her by now. I wish instead of this whole

549
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: scene and we were just hearing about the Penny drama,

550
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: because that's the interesting part.

551
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: You don't want to know if what they should do

552
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: with the awning, Like you're not interested in whether they

553
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: should call the company, or the company should pick it up,

554
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: or they should just move it.

555
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Or no, I don't give two shits about the honting.

556
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I want to know, but like, are you gonna have

557
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: to change the name about something about her? Like we

558
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: need to know the actual real drama of what is

559
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: happening and why this is not going forward? And also

560
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to see and pretend working there. When

561
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: we found out on Watch What Happens Live last night

562
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: she's had to take an interim.

563
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: Job because they didn't open.

564
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: They didn't open.

565
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Sheen arrives at Kyle Chan's business to learn more about

566
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: his event and the performance she is doing. Tom Santoval

567
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: arrives and Seena doesn't look happy, barely saying Hi, Tom

568
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: isn't performing at the event, but he's there just to

569
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: help manage everything. Tom says Kyle has really been there

570
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: for him and he will do anything to help Kyle.

571
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: He gets emotional and says he owes Kyle a lot.

572
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: I actually found him to be likable again in that moment.

573
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if that's a non popular opinion.

574
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: But why this is? I love that that's what you

575
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: got from this. But what I thought was why do

576
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: I feel like Kyle Chan has more promotion than Schwartz

577
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: and Sandy's on the show, like who what Bravo has

578
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: made Kyle Chan happen? And like he, I mean, he's

579
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: everywhere and I have we even seen shorts And Sandy's

580
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: like once yeah, Like Tom's why are you promoting.

581
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Your palet of your own place.

582
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Instead of your own place? Ever? Like do you hate

583
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: your own place? Like why are you not talking about it?

584
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

585
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Then Katie at Lala's house, they're talking about how they

586
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: hope Sandoval doesn't think he is invited tonight. Lala decides

587
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: to call him. He answers the FaceTime. He's, of course,

588
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: with Kyle Chan with Sheena. Lala says it's weird to

589
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: see them together. Tom uses a metaphor, saying they are

590
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: regluing the pottery that broke. I was like, is that

591
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: is he making a reference to the penis that he

592
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: cracked or whatever that was a penis?

593
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: S oh, I don't know. I didn't even think about that.

594
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: I just thought he was trying to be deep, you

595
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: know how like he tries to make very deep statements,

596
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: like you know, like he's so deep because he journals

597
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: and he's just a deep guy.

598
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Are you in love with him? No?

599
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: Testing, I was actually I was actually being facetious when

600
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: I was saying that.

601
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Really, thank you, You're welcome. Laala then ask if they

602
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: cannot reglue the pottery at her Big three three. Tom

603
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: says he wasn't invited and wasn't planning on coming. He

604
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: says happy birthday, and Laala tells him she felt like

605
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: he deserved the FaceTime.

606
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: Wait, can we just go back for it? Why is

607
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: he not invited? I mean he's been invited to every

608
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: other group events, so why not La LA's thirty third birthday?

609
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm thinking because at this point, you know, I think

610
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Laala went in hard for Ariana at the beginning, and

611
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: then her and Katie started having issues. And I think

612
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: what we're seeing now playing out in social media is

613
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: she is now at the tides of turn. So even

614
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: though at first people were really mad at Ariana, now

615
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: people are starting to get mad at Laala.

616
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: So you think she made a conscious decision not to

617
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: invite him because she was getting some backlash.

618
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think the backlash had come yet, but

619
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I think she started to realize Okay.

620
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: Maybe she's been too open that maybe she's been too forgiving.

621
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the wind has blown to the part of

622
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: where I need to backpedal a little bit, backpedal a touch.

623
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: But then Lala and Katie head into the venue for

624
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: her birthday and everyone begins to arrive. Lala says she's

625
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: getting more badass every year her birthday. Wishes to rule

626
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: the world, have a positive pregnanty test, and win the

627
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: custody battle. She explained she told Sandoval not to come.

628
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: She asked, you know why she was with him, and

629
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: she explains it was Kyle's. She talks about her and

630
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Sandoval's conversation and how but they both miss each other

631
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: and want to move forward. I'm not I mean, I

632
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: guess I don't have any straight male friends, but I

633
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine miss missing like a guy friend this much

634
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: if I was in a relationship with another man.

635
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought the same thing. Especially, I

636
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: mean I'm jumping ahead, but especially at the end. They

637
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: have another conversation and then they have like the world's

638
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: longest hug hug. I was like, man, Shane would be like, okay,

639
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: Like that's not like you know.

640
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, when you get a hug in the person

641
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: that you're hugging goes a little too long, so you

642
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: like tap it out, like almost like wrestling, like we're good,

643
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: You're finished.

644
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

645
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I was waiting for one of them to tap out,

646
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: like I was like, is there are they on? Like

647
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: are they trying to win? Like? What is that? What

648
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: is that thing? You do the most of the highest

649
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: number Gunnis book for the longest hug ever? Yeah, I

650
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: was like, this has gotten so awkward. There must be

651
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: a producer with like a timer and he's like, you

652
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: almost made it. Yeah, seconds the reigning champions.

653
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's odd. It's odd to me just

654
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: because Shane wouldn't be having that, nor would I hug

655
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: a street man for that long out of respect for

656
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: my husband. Correct.

657
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Then Area looks disgusted and says pathetic. Ariana feels like

658
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: she's being gas lit and remind Sena he continues to

659
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: treat her like shit. She says, he ain't your friend, babe.

660
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: The only thing that kind of confuses me about Sena

661
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: missing Sandoval is her writing these lyrics and her song apples.

662
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Are you ready to hear the lyrics? Yeah, let's hear

663
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: it type these bad boys out, narcissistic psycho. Cut you

664
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: out like light bow, see you right through with my

665
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: eyes closed, from a Ferrari to a Jetta. Thought you

666
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: knew Betta through it out the window. I thought you

667
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: were faithful. I see you a snake though. I hope

668
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: there's a place for friends like you. You missed this

669
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: person that you talked to, Like listen, you may give

670
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: each other a hard time, but I ain't calling you

671
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: any of these names.

672
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, I yeah, that was a lot. I like

673
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: how she says the song wasn't really written about him.

674
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: She just added that line and later, oh about it

675
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: was just one line. Don't worry about Santival. It was

676
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: just one line at the end. It's not a big deal.

677
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: That's too good. Sheena and Brock at their apartment packing

678
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Uh Ariana and Dan head to dinner.

679
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Ariana and Dan?

680
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my thoughts. I felt like the dinner was

681
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: super awkward and forced. But then I also try to

682
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: realize that he's probably not used to filming. It's their

683
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: first time in a long time being together face to face,

684
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: so maybe the awkwardness was just the cameras, but I

685
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: didn't feel a lot of chemistry between the two of them.

686
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: And I also couldn't figure out why he went to

687
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: San Francisco when he literally didn't go anywhere with her,

688
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: I know.

689
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: But and then I also was confused when they said,

690
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: this is our first time flying together. But I was like,

691
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, I've seen you guys on all these trips.

692
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Are you jogging there or are they meeting? I don't know.

693
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not that I felt like they

694
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: didn't have chemistry. It almost feels like to me, they're

695
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: still like you know, when you first get I mean,

696
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm not this way, but there are human beings that

697
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: when they're first getting to know each other, they like

698
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: put their best face forward.

699
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: And they're just they're giddy and awkward.

700
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what's happening. I think they're like

701
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: crushing on each other, but they're not in that full

702
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: comfortable spot yet. But I could be wrong.

703
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: But then, I mean, I felt like there wasn't a

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: lot of chemistry. I felt like it was kind of awkward.

705
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: But then again, I do realize that they are still

706
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: together now, so clearly they have feelings for one another

707
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: or would have lasted this long.

708
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: Well, last night she on Watch What Happens Live. She

709
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: had to play a game where she had to pick

710
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: what she would rather do, hang out with Sandoval or

711
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: do all of these other terrible things. And I was like,

712
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: this must be fun for Dan to watch. She's probably

713
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: really loving it because a couple of times she had

714
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: to pick Sandoval. The other option was so terrible.

715
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: Like what getting eaten by a shark or something, and

716
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: we're hanging out with Sandoval.

717
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I think it was like having sex with Jack's. Now

718
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: maybe she actually chows jack I can't remember exactly what

719
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: it was, but they were they weren't great.

720
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Oh wait, let me ask you. If you had to

721
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: choose between Jack's or Tom Sandival to have sex with,

722
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: which one would it be? Tom Sandoval? Okay?

723
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I yeah, especially after watching

724
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Jackson with the intimacy breathing, I was like.

725
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: Jack's always seems sweaty to me. He just always seems moist.

726
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, you I feel about that work.

727
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: That's why I said it.

728
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Then Shorts, Sandoval's mom and James meet Santoval backstage. Sandoval

729
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: says it feels so good to perform and see everyone

730
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: letting loose shorts and Joe head outside. He asks how

731
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: many guys she's banging. Joe shoves him. Things have just

732
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: been awkward since their conversation on the couch. Tom says

733
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: it felt weird without her since they took a break,

734
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to send mixed Joe says he

735
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: gives her whiplash.

736
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: What do you think of their Do you think they

737
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: have chemistry? I feel like they have this weird, odd chemistry.

738
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean I find them like so awkward that that

739
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: conversation outside was so awkward.

740
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, entertaining, Yeah, I mean it's entertaining. I don't know

741
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: if it's that they haven't shared exactly what has gone

742
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: on between them, so they're trying to cover up stuff.

743
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: So it's more awkward, you know what I mean, Like there's.

744
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're trying to talk around things instead of

745
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: just talking about it.

746
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of giving us all the tea, they've just

747
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: spilt little droplets of like the tea bag, and it's

748
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: not making sense. So then it just comes off really

749
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: awkward because they're both fimming right what I feel like?

750
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know she was. She was all

751
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: refed up. Then they go to the airport. Lalla doesn't

752
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: get Dan's attraction to Ariana, who just left a man

753
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: of ten years. Everyone boards the plate and heads to

754
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Sandoval says he would like to meet Dan,

755
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: but he's going to leave everyone alone. You see when

756
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: Sandoval walks onto the plane, Dan's like eating a sandwich

757
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: and he's like says something and they like pause on

758
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 1: like him. But what it? I mean most of the time,

759
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I can kind of understand what Lala's saying. I I

760
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: think I fully understand what Dan's attraction is to Ariana.

761
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Every guy wants to know say it. Oh, every guy

762
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: wants to be the hero. Is that what he is? Yeah?

763
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Every guy wants to be the hero that sweeps you

764
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: off your feet, that makes everything better.

765
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: And the good guy.

766
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

767
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: She had the bad guy. Now he gets to come

768
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: in and be the good guy.

769
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

770
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: I do feel like Lala had to change a heart

771
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: though when she saw him come out of the shower.

772
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Though I could say I would say that I personally

773
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: didn't think one way or the other. I mean, I

774
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: thought Dan was a good looking guy, but I didn't

775
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: really think that he was super hot until he let

776
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: his hair down and he didn't have a shirt on.

777
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: His hair was so long and he had no shirt on.

778
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, hello, Dan, I.

779
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Wasn't ready for it to be longer than like my

780
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: longest hair extensions.

781
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: They were like, no, his is real. He doesn't have

782
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: extensions in Yeah, I know.

783
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: But I think they both. I don't know. My guess

784
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: isn't isn't Dan moving out here to live with Ariana?

785
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: Well, for them, it's someone's got to move, and it's

786
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: gonna be Dan. She's not gonna leave La.

787
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true, true, true. Then they arrive on the boat.

788
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Brock asked Ariana if the ride was awkward, and Ariana

789
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: says he was just scenery that she didn't notice. Brock

790
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: asked Ariana f Brock's doing his work. Brock then asked

791
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: arian It if she ever sees herself moving forward. Arianna

792
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: asked for whose benefit in Brock says his wife.

793
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: No, the answer is for your own benefit. That's the

794
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: correct answer.

795
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Brock, I don't think you get to ask

796
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: for an example. I don't know. I just I don't

797
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: think when there's been allegations about like just stop stop.

798
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: Stop.

799
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: This is where you probably should have left it. Brock.

800
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think the conversation was good in the beginning,

801
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: and I think his intent was good, and I liked

802
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: what he had to say, But he shouldn't have brought

803
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: Shena into it. It should have been about concern for Ariana,

804
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: and that's where you should have left it. And so

805
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: when she said for whose benefit, he should have just

806
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: said for you, for you to have peace, for you

807
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: to move on, for you to feel better, for you

808
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: to be happier, et cetera, than bringing Sena into it, it

809
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: just went.

810
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: And also, let's be really clear, whatever issues Brock and

811
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: Sheena are having really don't have anything to do with

812
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Tom Sanderbal at this point.

813
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: No, because the hug, the awkward hug, has not happened yet.

814
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. Then they're going to the Roaring

815
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: Twenties party Shena facetimes Brock and he's down the street

816
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: getting his hair cut to match the theme better. Lalla

817
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: goes into Ariana's room, We see the hair, blah blah blah.

818
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: Then uh, what else even exciting at this point happened?

819
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Ariana and Sandval have the same shoes.

820
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: On yeah, but what do you think the reason is

821
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: that Dan doesn't go to the party with Ariana, Like,

822
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: do you think there's more to it? Do you think

823
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: he's trying to avoid being on camera too much, or.

824
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to avoid confrontation with Sandoval so he's

825
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: able to do it like in a controlled setting like

826
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: an airplane, but if they're drinking in cameras and whatever involved,

827
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: like maybe he doesn't want to do that. But also

828
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: them all showing up in full twenties outfits to a

829
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: regular restaurant with everybody dressed in regular clothing.

830
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: I know, I know that didn't make sense to me.

831
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: I thought, couldn't you have at least ordered some twenties themes,

832
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: something off of Amazon and like throw it on the

833
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: tables or something. There is no decor that had anything

834
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: to do with this theme.

835
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: But my favorite part of this episode was the conversation

836
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: between Katie and Force where they're talking about and I

837
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna say bang, but he just said,

838
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: like we can go back order snacks, lay on our phone,

839
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: and last night and watching What Happens Live, she goes listen.

840
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I would have been more prone to probably bang him,

841
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: but to lay and do nothing with somebody is way

842
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: more intimate, And I was like, that's kind of a

843
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: good point.

844
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.

845
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: But they are they are vibing each other a little bit.

846
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Did I sound really young when I said vibing?

847
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what Annabel says, Now, have you heard this?

848
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: She says, yes, I was just gonna say that. What

849
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: is that? I just heard it. She was like, yeah,

850
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: they he was rizzing on me or something. I'm like,

851
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? She goes, you know, like charisma,

852
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: but we say riz. I was like, I can't.

853
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: And then I can't. I spelled wiz wrong to slay

854
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: and she was like, mom, it is not whatever I

855
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: wrote like aris.

856
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: Still I'm like, oh, is it disease?

857
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: Whatever way I spelled it was incorrectly. I was like, sorry,

858
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know about the charisma arma. But then it

859
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of ends with Shena bringing up the idea of

860
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: Tom apologizing for bringing up aspects of ariana his mental

861
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: health that she didn't want public. This was a very

862
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: good point that she brought up. He did not need

863
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: to do that. He tried to make the affair seem

864
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: like he had to do it because of her mental state,

865
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: or he had to stay with her because if he wouldn't,

866
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: she threatened to commit suicide, like all of those things.

867
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: And then Tom says, I love you, Shena, and thanks

868
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: for being there for me.

869
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: But let me ask the question, though, because I did

870
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: enjoy this conversation and I thought Shina was very articulate

871
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: in it. But do you think that she initiated that

872
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: conversation because that's something that's been bothering her? Because I

873
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: feel why she's talking on behalf of Arianna and Arianna's

874
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: mental health. So is this something that Arianna has said

875
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: that bothered her but she just can't say it's the

876
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Tom because she's not talking to him, or do you

877
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: think it's something production had? Sheena say, I just felt

878
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: like it was a heavy subject for her to just

879
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: bring up off the top of her head.

880
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Maybe because Sheena herself is struggling with her own postpartum

881
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: OCD anxiety, those types of things she might be more

882
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: aware of. It's one thing for you to control your

883
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: own narrative and talk about how your mental health is feeling,

884
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: but it's another for somebody else to throw it in

885
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: your face and use it to weaponize you. So it

886
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: could have just been I mean, I think Shena, even

887
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: though they make her, you know, appear to be very

888
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: self absorbed, I think that she has a good heart,

889
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: and I think when you look back at the time,

890
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: that is really the biggest issue.

891
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: So you think that that was something that weighed heavily

892
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: and that she felt like she had to talk to

893
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: the Sandoval about that and bring that up. Yeah, okay, but.

894
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: I mean Arianna could have also said it to her, like.

895
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wondered if maybe there was a conversation

896
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: that we weren't privy to where she brought that up

897
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: and then and then that's why she had brought it

898
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: up to Tom.

899
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back

900
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: and talk about the Valley. Episode seven. All right, we

901
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: are back. We're at the hair Loss Party fight. I

902
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: love the it's called the hair loss party. Yeah, the

903
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: hair loss Party fight. At least it's not like New Beginnings, oh,

904
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: new Follicles.

905
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: It's the New Beginnings Party. Oh my god, the New Beginning.

906
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Well. I was actually surprised they all came back in

907
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: that room except for Kristen and Luke. I didn't think

908
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: that was actually going to happen at the end of

909
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: that fight.

910
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's because Michelle demanded that everyone reconvene.

911
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: And why is some people listening to Michelle other than

912
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: she like her? Some of those words that Sina used

913
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: in Apples could also be used for Michelle from what

914
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm seeing.

915
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I don't know, I don't

916
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: I feel like, why does everyone listen?

917
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like why does everyone? Why does she get to pick?

918
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: But she asked the.

919
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Room if anybody said that. Jesse said he was going

920
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: to leave Michelle in two months. Jesse says, if anybody

921
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: is divorcing anybody, it's Michelle divorcing him. Michelle and Janet

922
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: say Kristin shouldn't be invited around the group anymore.

923
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I felt badly for Kristen. I feel badly for her.

924
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: I feel like she has such a scapegoat in this

925
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: entire situation.

926
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Like also, you can't ice out the ice cube tray,

927
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: like we need her in order to keep this all going,

928
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Like y'all wouldn't have a show if it wasn't for

929
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Kristin keeping this shit together. And also it really was.

930
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Jack's even said in his confessional, He's like, I wrap

931
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: this up nasty great, you know, like I got it.

932
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: That's yeahactly. That's the part I don't understand is everyone

933
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: else has dirty hands as well, Like Janet's clearly talking crap,

934
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: and Jasmine and Jack's are clearly talking crap. And Jacks

935
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: even wanted Jasmine to go get more information to bring

936
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: back to him so that he could drop a bomb.

937
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: But everybody's mad at Kristin.

938
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: Unlike the only people that I think are nice enough

939
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: on this cast to not say anything about the situation

940
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: are Nia, Danny and Brittany. I think they would have

941
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: just kept their mouths shut. I mean, Brittany said I

942
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't say nothing, and she But Brittany, here's the thing

943
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: Brittany does know and her relationship is we're starting to

944
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: see the breaks in that she still isn't throwing somebody

945
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: else under the bus to try to disguise it, which

946
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: clearly that's what Jackson is doing exactly.

947
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: But then to explain again why Kristin is the bad

948
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: guy in all of this and why they're trying to

949
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: ice her out, because we all know what happens on

950
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: a show when you ice someone out, Like the purpose

951
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: is so that they're not on the show anymore.

952
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: Show anymore. Well, this is my one note to Kristen.

953
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: When you're going to deliver information, you just can't mess

954
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: up a word, especially every time, yes, every time, like

955
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: we give you one get out of jail free card.

956
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: But if you're going to deliver a key thing, make

957
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: sure it's accurate because then.

958
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: Because wiggle room, everybody, yeah, they can wiggle out of it.

959
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: That's why I'm telling you. I did that last year.

960
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: I messed up something that Heather said and I didn't

961
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: think it was that big a deal, but then I

962
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: realized it gave her a loophole to say. I didn't

963
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: say that. That's not right, you're wrong, you're crazy. You

964
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. And I knew exactly

965
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: what I was talking about. I just messed it up

966
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: a little bit.

967
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: So you're to be very clear with your delivery, and

968
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: if that means have one less alcoholic beverage before you

969
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: deliver heartbreaking news to someone, you should.

970
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Or or use Q cards, no cards, memorize that there

971
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: might write it down.

972
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, shell divorcing Jesse, that's the part you.

973
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: Missed, right, And maybe practice it with Luke first.

974
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: But also the fact once I know we're skipping ahead, Well, one,

975
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: why is Luke wearing the same T shirt this entire episode?

976
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: Why Whiskey? What did it say? Like Whiskey makes it

977
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: better with red T shirt? No matter what he was filming,

978
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: what he was doing, he was in that Whiskey shirt

979
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: and it was a lot for me. But what I

980
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: didn't really realize until we panned forward to that conversation

981
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: was that this information about the divorce came from Luke.

982
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: I thought, yes, because Luke's like, that's not really what

983
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: I shaid I should But I thought she knew this

984
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: from Michelle and messed it up. But no, she actually

985
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: only knows the stuff from Michelle about the alleged cheating

986
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: or affair with whomever. But Luke is the one that

987
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: told her about the potential divorce because.

988
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: From the Boys' Night whatever. Rad Jack says, Yeah, that's right,

989
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: that's what she messed up. She did get that from

990
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: Luke and she messed it up. Yeah.

991
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: So Luke's like, listen, I'm new to this shit, but

992
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I told you what to say and you put it up.

993
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: You mess up your line, man, that it's on you.

994
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: But what about when?

995
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: So Michelle comes in and she's I got to try

996
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: to master the face.

997
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: But it's like, oh, is this after the hike in

998
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: the smoothie? Now we're on the smoothies.

999
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, Hi, So I dropped Isabella off at

1000
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: school and then I stopped and got us smoothies. I

1001
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: thought that smoothies would be a great thing for us today.

1002
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 2: I thought. I was like, smoothies would smooth things over.

1003
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.

1004
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: And then like there's zero expression in her face, there's

1005
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: zero like inflection in the voice. All I can see

1006
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: is the hatred she feels towards Jesse.

1007
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: Jesse thinks palpable.

1008
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: It's Jesse's like, I think this is actually bringing us

1009
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: together and I'm so glad you knew I wasn't divorcing you.

1010
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: And she's like, of course I knew that because I'm

1011
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: cheating on you. You don't fucking idiot.

1012
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: And everybody knows about it and accept you.

1013
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: And everyone knows on this show, and this is why

1014
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: we will get a second season with our new significant others.

1015
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: But this is where I like Jesse. And Jesse's confessional,

1016
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: he talks about his commitment and that you fight for

1017
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: it and blah blah, blah, Like.

1018
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the question. Did we misjudge Jesse from the beginning?

1019
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: I feel slightly guilty about maybe calling him a douche lord.

1020
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a douche lord. But I

1021
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: do think they came into this with a lot of

1022
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: marital problems and he didn't know how to decipher through them.

1023
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: So if she was sleeping with Michael Bay allegedly or

1024
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: whatever was happening, or she did have this boyfriend or

1025
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: this person she was texting, whatever the secret is, I

1026
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: think he knows what the secret is, and they sucked

1027
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: up the secret and decided they were going to come

1028
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: in and film and try to get through it and

1029
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: work it out. And he's realizing through filming, like she

1030
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: hates my guts, right, I mean, I think he alludes

1031
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: to that in the confessional. But now I'm curious, you

1032
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: know how sag after I did a thing where like,

1033
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: you can't hire AI to write scripts and stuff. Do

1034
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: you think you can hire AI to be in reality

1035
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: television shows? And maybe that is what Michelle is just

1036
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: say Ai, Yeah.

1037
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: It could be, because there's there's not a lot of

1038
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: emotion there.

1039
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's who But when he said he noticed

1040
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: Michelle is starting to put her phone face down when

1041
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: they're together.

1042
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's not posting on Instagram. Okay, what he

1043
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: says she's not posting is that because she says she's

1044
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: going out to drink some friends, but she's not going

1045
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: out to drinks with and she's really messing around with

1046
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: as a guy. And that's why she's not posting anything.

1047
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: Yes, because what is she going to do? Posts a

1048
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: boomerang and then see Harry Knuckles and it's clear that

1049
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: she's boomerang with a man and not with Kristen like

1050
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: she has. You know, she's probably said I'm going out

1051
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: with the girls. But if you're going to be present

1052
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: and off social media, then you have to stay consistent

1053
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: with that throughout. And I don't think that's what's happening.

1054
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: So I do. I do like when he when he

1055
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: does like the cheers with the smoothie and he's like

1056
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: team Jesse and Michelle, and she's all, yeah, team Jesse

1057
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: and Michelle. Yeah, cheers to uh team Jesse and Michelle.

1058
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Janet tells Jason that Jasmine told her that

1059
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: Jax told her about the r It's one big game

1060
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: of telephone, Janet reveals that Sheena just told her that

1061
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: Gene is in the mix. We're gonna see Shea in

1062
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: the valley soon. That there's a rumor about Jack's cheating

1063
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: on Brittany. Janet, you may be pregnant, but that does

1064
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: not get you excused from being called out on being messy.

1065
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: You're being messy. Her husband thinks she's messy.

1066
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Also, her unborn child isn't going to be surprised by

1067
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: a Jack's cheating rumor, like even that He's like, listen,

1068
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 1: I heard it all by now. Yeah.

1069
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1070
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Then Kristen and Luke go to the doctor to see

1071
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: if she's able to conceive. There's five follicles. Then Janet

1072
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: and Jason go to Jackson Brittany's. At this point, Brittany

1073
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: Jax has now turned into Michelle like Jacks is also

1074
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: ai and enraged that Brittany is like speaking while Cruz

1075
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: is having his therapy. I'm like, if you really wanted

1076
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: Cruz to have his therapy and be uninterrupted, maybe not

1077
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: have entire film crew there.

1078
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know this is you can really see

1079
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: their marriage just completely unravel. I feel like he's been

1080
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: trying to be on his best behavior through most of

1081
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: this filming up until now, and he's just he's reached

1082
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: his breaking point, like he can't do it anymore.

1083
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: No, he's at this point he's in love with Laurie

1084
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, because he is done with this. He's done.

1085
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: He's not even faking it, like it's he's not even

1086
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: being nice.

1087
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 3: Uh.

1088
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: Then they're all kind of hanging out. Janet tells Jackson

1089
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: Jasmine told her about the Michelle rumors. Britney says, and

1090
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: I believe Brittany in this moment. Maybe I am a

1091
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, naive, but when Brittany's like, you shouldn't reveal

1092
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: that information regardless even if you did know. And then

1093
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: Jax is like you see Jax's confessional and it just

1094
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: shows like the difference in who they are as people.

1095
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: When like Brittany will hold it close to the chest

1096
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: and like not share somebody that she really cares about,

1097
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, whether she cares about them or not.

1098
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to.

1099
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: Throw their life under the bus. And Jackson is like

1100
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: looking at it like sport right.

1101
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: And well, and she's also been his ride or die

1102
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: and forgiven him for multitudes of things, and he clearly

1103
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: doesn't even give her any like any what am I

1104
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: trying to any?

1105
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: He gives her nothing, He gives her no credit, he

1106
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: gives her nothing, like he's not even fun with her,

1107
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: Like you're so far I'm not seeing really any reason

1108
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: why you would want to be with Jack's, especially when

1109
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: you see the way that Nia and Danny are together,

1110
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: Like Nia's going through a tough time, they call Danny.

1111
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: She calls Danny's sister to talk about her postpartum. I

1112
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: think this is an important conversation to have about medication

1113
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: and if you know, giving your like how you want

1114
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: to call it baby blues, right, it could be more

1115
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: and giving yourself permission to seek help from a professional.

1116
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: Then we go to the tantrics expert.

1117
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know that he had no desire

1118
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: to go to that. He's like, I'm good because I'm

1119
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: having sex with someone else, so really no need to

1120
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: do this.

1121
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: But I think at that point she didn't either, because

1122
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: did you see like he's kind of like just death

1123
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: glaring her like he's like yeah, and she won't even

1124
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: look at him in the eyes, like she's like and

1125
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: then the sex where it's like how did that feel?

1126
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: And She's like, all of a sudden, she's now Michelle.

1127
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, very a great, great, great.

1128
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: Amazing, never better. I don't know, but it's.

1129
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: It's a lot. What is it? Jack says, Brittany is

1130
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: my soulmate. I guess.

1131
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hope Edwin writes that on my

1132
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: next I hope Edwin writes that to me on Mother's Day. Yeah,

1133
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: because you know, I guess, I here's my soulmate. I guess.

1134
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, if I had to pick one, I.

1135
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: Mean compared to the rest. I mean, I know I'm

1136
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: liking things that say should have married Stacy, but.

1137
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's right. We didn't talk about that.

1138
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: I know, how inappropriate, Like.

1139
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: That's almost as inappropriate as having sex with Laurie in

1140
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: the back.

1141
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: It's so inappropriate, even if they're not together. It's so

1142
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: inappropriate just for their child's sake, like just to not

1143
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: have a certain level of respect for your the mother

1144
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: of your child, to not like that. What's wrong with them?

1145
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1146
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: But also this is what I really also don't understand.

1147
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: We get. Then Jack's, Luke and Jason go bowling, which

1148
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Jax is looking a fool. But why does he care

1149
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: about Kristin's relationship with Luke? Why does he care? Like

1150
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around why he wants Luke

1151
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: to see this other side of Kristen. What does he care? Well?

1152
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. And is she known? Is she actually?

1153
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like we talked about previously, I wouldn't say

1154
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: she was a liar based upon what we've watched throughout

1155
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: this season. I would say that she's a ding dom

1156
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: and that she messes stuff up, But I wouldn't say

1157
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: she's a liar.

1158
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't think she's intentionally trying to lie. I think

1159
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: that she always messes up the words. But Luke has

1160
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: clearly watched vander Pump Rules because he knew right away

1161
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: to say, well, you're a self confessed pathological liar to Jacks,

1162
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: and then editors of course pants crash batting it. And

1163
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: then Jackson is like that was ten years ago, I've

1164
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: grown up. And then the editors are even more brilliant

1165
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: because they're showing him say the exact thing from vander

1166
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: Pump Rules the Valley right, and I'm like, Jacks, your

1167
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: time of being the good guy and coming after Tom

1168
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: Sandoval have now ended, and it's writ you you just

1169
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: really wanted to be the number one guy in the group.

1170
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you find it hard to watch him

1171
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: saying the things that he says, knowing that we know

1172
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: now what we know now? I mean, what a do? Sure?

1173
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: Then we see Nia and Danny and Jesse and Michelle

1174
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: meet up for sushi, and when Michelle brings up the

1175
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: topic of Kristen, Nia is like, you know what, guys,

1176
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: I can't Like, my cup is already pouring over from

1177
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: the stress that I'm under and what I'm feeling, and

1178
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: like I can't take this on. And I was like,

1179
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: good for her. I think it'll be hard if once

1180
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: we get to next season, if she is going to

1181
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: continue removing herself from the drama. But I think for

1182
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: now it really resonates it's appropriate for what she's going through.

1183
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I do think it's how she will navigate being on

1184
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: the show past one season. If she isn't going to

1185
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: be willing when she's feeling better to engage, I think

1186
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: will be the riding on the.

1187
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: Wall for them. Yeah, I thought the same thing. I

1188
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: don't know if Nia is just so a one season wonder,

1189
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: because you're right, she does have her own personal story,

1190
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: which is very compelling. But once you get past the

1191
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: personal story, if she's not willing to get involved, to

1192
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: talk about other people, to gossip, to be included in it,

1193
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: then it's not gonna it's not gonna work.

1194
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do I like her confessionals with Danny

1195
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: when they're talking about the house or they're trying to

1196
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: decide where Valencia is when they're talking about budget, like

1197
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: all that. I enjoy them, But either Danny or Nia,

1198
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: one of them is going to have to get messy,

1199
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: has to get messy after this this season.

1200
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: No, let's they get a hall pass.

1201
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: You get a hall pass. But then Janet and Jason watchcrews.

1202
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: So Brittany and Jack's gonna have a date night. The

1203
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: fact that these two know nothing about children but are

1204
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: about to have a child is also interesting to me.

1205
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, and we didn't even talk about like

1206
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: the risk and the risk benefit of picking the like

1207
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: you should just never pick it up, Like.

1208
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: Why would you want to hold a kid when there's

1209
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: a blank chance of falling? And Luke tells Kristen that

1210
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: the group is afraid to be is afraid to be

1211
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: around her and Kristen's just like okay. At this point,

1212
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: I feel like she's like, Luke, quit trying to produce me.

1213
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: I've been doing this show for years. I know how

1214
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: to be a mess. I'm sorry, Like, let me do

1215
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: my thing like you do your thing. I'll do mine.

1216
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: Stick it in and get me pregnant and let's keep

1217
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: it going.

1218
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: Right, like I brought you out here to get me pregnant,

1219
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: not to lecture me.

1220
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: Not to lecture me on how to say that you

1221
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: know Michelle was going to divorce Jesse, not vice versa.

1222
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: Do you let me ask you a question though? Do

1223
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: you think that Michelle is very anti Kristen. Kristen shouldn't

1224
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: be around. Nobody shouldn't like Kristen because Kristen is the

1225
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: one who knows this information. So if she just consistently

1226
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: Paintsen is a liar or as a bad guys, and

1227
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: then she's able to kind of have one more week

1228
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 2: without anyone knowing the secret. Yet.

1229
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she knows that. I think Michelle is

1230
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: like a master manipulator, so I think she knows that

1231
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: Janet doesn't fully know the information, Jasmine doesn't fully know

1232
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: the information, and she knows Britney. Brittany has also confided

1233
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: in her in some extent, so I think she knows

1234
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Britney's not going to say anything. Jacks is trying to

1235
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: get the information but doesn't have it all and so

1236
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: her only threat is Kristin, and she's learning that Kristin

1237
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: can be a loose cannon.

1238
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: So she's working hard to make Kristen look like the

1239
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: nut that needs to remove from the tree.

1240
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's as we watch more and

1241
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: as we see what's happening now, like I mean clearly,

1242
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she thought she was going to

1243
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: be able to manipulate the audience to think that Jesse

1244
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: was horrible and she's a saint, and she did at first.

1245
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was totally like te Michelle from the beginning.

1246
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: And I even thought that she kind of had that

1247
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: very stoic I guess you would say AI kind of

1248
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: personality because of him, But now I don't think that's true.

1249
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's true either. I think he

1250
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: was acting douey because of her at that point, Like

1251
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't trust all of this, But

1252
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: then we get into the next douchey situation. Jack's and

1253
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: Brittney's date night, which once again is at the Madrion.

1254
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, so they must have some deal for free

1255
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: shit at the mandre On, because why else would you

1256
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: want to go have room service but like cooked in

1257
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: the room at the Mandrion.

1258
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: And I also, it didn't seem like either one of

1259
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: them took it seriously because he has like a T

1260
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: shirt on, and I mean, she looks cute, but like

1261
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: for a date night that she's been wanting to happen,

1262
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: Like she has her glasses on and she's not. Like

1263
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just felt like neither of them

1264
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: really was interested in being there.

1265
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: No, I feel like maybe this was like a pickup.

1266
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: It just something didn't feel whatever, Like even when he

1267
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: said you can't be upset, No, you can't be upset

1268
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: about that. No, you can't do that, I was like,

1269
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: actually she can be, And like, why why are we

1270
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: panning to these conversations that are just feel I don't know.

1271
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: Brittany thinks he's shaming her about parenting. Jack says his

1272
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: job allows him to leave the house. Brittany thought they

1273
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: were running the bar together. Brittany says, but don't you

1274
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: even do anything? I do everything. This is where Jack's

1275
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: loses it, because once you push a narcissist and they

1276
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: feel like somebody can see behind the veil, then they're

1277
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: going to start striking back even harder. And then they

1278
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, then money conversation starts getting involved. You realize

1279
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: they both put the same amount of money into their home. Right,

1280
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: more confusing why Brittany's the one that had to leave

1281
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: just that's how much she's like, get a way for me,

1282
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: Jack's right, but Jax walks off. But I think the

1283
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: biggest part, the biggest takeaway from me and this conversation

1284
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: is realizing how little Jax really has to do with

1285
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: Jack's the bar, right, it is infuriating her because it's

1286
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: not a something about her or a Schwartz and Sandy situation.

1287
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: Like this is an existing place that already exists and

1288
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: is very popular called Rocos. There is a little subdivision

1289
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Speaker 1: on the side that'll be called Jax's that already is

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Speaker 1: being run by the existing people of the popular place Rocos.

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Speaker 2: So do you think they reached out to him or

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Speaker 2: he reached out to them and just said, hey, why

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Speaker 2: don't we just do something together?

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Speaker 1: I think either way, my guess is he gets like

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Speaker 1: a percentage of the sales on the nights that he's there,

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Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. But I think her disgust

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Speaker 1: is coming from the fact of, like, it's not a.

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Speaker 2: Full time job. It's not like you put together this

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Speaker 2: whole bar and you created it and you're there every

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Speaker 2: day and you're meeting with architects and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Like that, it's unfathomable for us to believe as like

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Speaker 1: him creating whatever they put into the men's hair growth

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Speaker 1: line that he was promoting.

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Speaker 2: Like like that that he put that together like in

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Speaker 2: a chemistry lab, like yeah it got and he's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's just like dude, yes, I'm happy that

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Speaker 1: we have this other opportunity, but you can't act like

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Speaker 1: this is your baby that you've built from the ground up,

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Speaker 1: like I hope it's successful, but like the priority should

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Speaker 1: be me and our kids, because you you showing up

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Speaker 1: and parting with people and bringing in more sales, like

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Speaker 1: that's great, but it's you're it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's not a full time job. Yeah, And so the

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Speaker 2: whole conversation about the second child, how she was saying,

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Speaker 2: I thought we were on the same page. I thought

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Speaker 2: we were gonna, you know, work on a having a

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Speaker 2: second child. All I can think is how he's probably

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Speaker 2: backed out of that because he's with somebody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I wonder he doesn't he doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: have a second kid? Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: But that's why I'm wondering, do you think? And I

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Speaker 1: know there's no way we can prove this or not.

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Speaker 1: Member cameras came back up. I'm hungering, yes, okay, once

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Speaker 1: she moved out, I'm wondering if this is a pickup scene,

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Speaker 1: if this date really happened in real time, or if

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Speaker 1: this is a pickup because.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's just no chemistry there, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: there's just a lot of tension between the two of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you never normally feel that with her.

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Speaker 2: No, and again, and she didn't put, she didn't put. Well,

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Speaker 2: she was talking about how she wants to feel sexy

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Speaker 2: and she wants to feel beautiful, and she wants Jack

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Speaker 2: to make her feel sexy and beautiful and launderie and

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Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. And they have this date

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Speaker 2: night with flowers and roses and sushi, and she just

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Speaker 2: she doesn't she didn't dress the part. Now I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying that she should have, but based upon prior's statements

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Speaker 2: that she had made, she just to.

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Speaker 1: Wear night and heels and doing right.

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Speaker 2: She said, ale those things. But then like they show

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Speaker 2: up for this date night and she just has'tail.

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Speaker 1: She like, one, YEA, let's do this thing. Let's pretend

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Speaker 1: this one date, let's have So I feel like that

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Speaker 1: fight had already happened. I think that fight actually did happen.

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Speaker 1: I just think we may have seen it happen the

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Speaker 1: second time, right, so who knows, But it did make

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Speaker 1: me sad, like that that ever happened at all. Like

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Speaker 1: I just you know, you want to believe even when

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Speaker 1: people are assholes, that like they're going to change, and

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Speaker 1: you want to believe that having a family or when

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Speaker 1: they come for other people that they'll see the light.

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Speaker 1: But you see in this moment like he hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: No, I feel badly for her. She's so sweet. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she she deserves better. So team Brittany.

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Speaker 1: Team Brittany Jackson, we love watching you on television, but

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Speaker 1: as a human being.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is a good mother. So all right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, let us know your thoughts and uh, we'll

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Speaker 1: keep you posted next week about what we find out.

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Speaker 1: It's a finale of Vander Pomparules next week.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting all right, guys, thanks for listening.