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Speaker 3: a man whose journey began with tragedy. Honestly, his dad

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Speaker 3: when he was a kid, struggled with depression, weight, his identity.

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Speaker 3: But nineteen years old, Khalil Rountree walked into a gym

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Speaker 3: Khalil has now dropped over one hundred pounds. He's fought

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Speaker 3: only Khalil Raalntree Jr. Thank you for joining my friend.

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Speaker 1: Wow, the man was so excited to be here. Now,

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Speaker 1: that was cool. Thank you. It's nice to It's nice

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Speaker 3: Just your work that you've done have put you in

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Speaker 3: will get there. But you grew up in Las Vegas. Yes,

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Speaker 3: You know, what's what's interesting about your life and your

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Speaker 1: It's been a it's been a very interesting journey. I

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Speaker 3: The music industry, though, playing a massive part was that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my father. He was a road manager for Boys

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Speaker 3: How old are your two brothers?

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Speaker 1: My middle brother, Donovan is five years older than me,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I know the whole story and all the details.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you seek that out for some sort of closure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it brings me more peace than anything. It brings

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, right, I actually did. Yeah. It it gave me.

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Speaker 3: Yep, envision it closed your eyes. LA had Louisiana, small town.

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Speaker 3: She's driving the Plymouth. My mom's driving the Plymouth because

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Speaker 3: You have the car. My mom was a saint to me.

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Speaker 3: But I can't forget that she did that because you

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Speaker 3: It doesn't change the love I have for my mom. Right. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a part of, like

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Speaker 1: down to that we don't make the same. Yeah, you

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00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: gotta do something. You got to mess up to be

438
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: able to pass something down, do you know what I mean? Yeah,

439
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: for sure, Like we can't all be perfect, and yeah,

440
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: I think it's it's always good to have, you know,

441
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: a true perspective. Man, that's so crazy.

442
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: That's crazy. She was crazy a little bit. But again,

443
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: you never know, right, but that will never change the

444
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: way I viewed my mother because she protected me and

445
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: she loved me. And that's one thing that in our community,

446
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: we get our mom. John Jones's mom passed and you

447
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: know him and I's history, and I felt compelled to

448
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: tell him I was sorry. I felt for him because

449
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: I still had my mom and we know how important

450
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: they are to us. Your mom raised you and your brothers.

451
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: She believed in you. I mean, she believed in you

452
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: more than anyone, and at fourteen she even lets you

453
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: go off on your own a little bit. Yea, when

454
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: you decided to play drums, she supported you. How was

455
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: that having that, like just on dying support by someone

456
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: that could see greatness in you even when that time

457
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: is clue. Frankly, I not have seen it in yourself.

458
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: It's unreal. Man. I'm I'm eternally grateful for my mom.

459
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: I still have a very close relationship with my mom.

460
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: She holds a very very deep, you know, the deepest

461
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: part of my heart because of everything that she went

462
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: through as a single mom to raise four kids, you

463
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, not marry on purpose, because she

464
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: just would never put anything before her kids, you know.

465
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: It's like very selfless. Yeah. And I just remember, yeah,

466
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: when I was young, anything that I wanted to do, yeah,

467
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: my mom always supported me. And that was where I

468
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: was kind of speaking about like the sports earlier. Like

469
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: I didn't have the courage, I didn't have that courageous

470
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: push from someone in my household. But I always had

471
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: love and comfort, Yeah, comfort and love whatever I if

472
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: I was afraid, not not like oh I'm afraid, mom,

473
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, but it's just like I just new even

474
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: if my mouth was shut. Whatever, I walk in the door,

475
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: and my mom kind of already knew she had you,

476
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: she had me, you get what I mean. So if

477
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: I said, hey, Mom, I want to be in a band,

478
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: and these guys are going to California. This would be

479
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: my first time traveling, playing on a stage, and she's

480
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: just like, okay, Like, if that's what you want to do,

481
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: I support you, and but just go and do your

482
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: best and make sure, you know, make sure you do

483
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: your very best on stage when you're performing. And here's

484
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: the phone, like make sure that we stay in contact.

485
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: But I want to hear all about it when you

486
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: get back home, you know, like, and so I'm like okay.

487
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: And then after high school, like I told my mom

488
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: because she told me, I just want you to graduate

489
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: high school. Whatever you do with your life after that,

490
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: you'll be eighteen. You're a man. You gotta go. But

491
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: my only dream is please finish high school. Like that's

492
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: my only, like my living dream, just finish high school.

493
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: So I finished high school and I didn't play music

494
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: at the time, but my friends who I grew up

495
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: with playing music, they made it. They were signed by

496
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: a label. Label was paying for them to go on

497
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: tour all this, and they invited me to come out

498
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: and still be on the road with them and selling

499
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: their merch. This was fresh out of high school. So

500
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: I told my mom, like, hey, I got a new job.

501
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Going to be gone two and a half months out

502
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: of the year at a time, traveling all around the

503
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: country via bus. This is what she's like, Okay, Like

504
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: that's amazing. You get to travel the world. You get

505
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: to go to states I've never been to. Like, she's like,

506
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: that's so cool, send me photos take you know. And

507
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: that's just been that's just been my mom from the start.

508
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like she's just like your biggest supporter.

509
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, biggest supporter. The only thing that like, she supports

510
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: my fighting, but she can't watch it.

511
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that, like, how is it

512
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 3: now right when you tell mom at twenty one, Hey,

513
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a mixed martial artist. That's what

514
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I want to do. Hey, I've supported you in vands.

515
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 3: That gets scary. My mom would go to the fight

516
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: because I wouldn't do it without her, But I don't

517
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: know that she ever watched a fight because her head

518
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: down the whole time. She was so scared. How's that

519
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: now though, But not only the fact that she won't watch,

520
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: but the fact that you can give her now here, Mom,

521
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: this is me, little Khalil, the one that you believed

522
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: in every step of the way I can take care of.

523
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, Like how is that for you? As a man?

524
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean it it feels good, and I definitely it's

525
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: still a big part of my my motivation because like

526
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: I want to do more, you know what I mean,

527
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Like yeh, from the outside, you know, from the outside

528
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: looking in and based off where I come from and

529
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: even just people in my family, Like I'm doing well.

530
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm blessed, you know, I'm grateful. But like when I

531
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: think about moms, I'm like, okay, like I can do more,

532
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: that's all. Every time I see my mom, it's like

533
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I got it. I can do more and I will

534
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: and I gotta and like I got you, I got you,

535
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that, however it is,

536
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's not a you know, ten million

537
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: dollar house like I imagine, but it's going to it

538
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: will be something, you know what I mean.

539
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: It isn't that amazing, Like you said, Amen, I would

540
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: walk in and she got me but now at this age,

541
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: Mama got you right. One of my greatest accomplishments was

542
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: by my my house when I when I grew up,

543
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: my mom cleaned houses for a living, and I wanted

544
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: to make sure that by the time she passed, she

545
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: had her own house cleaners. And that meant something to her.

546
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: All the belts, all the other stuff didn't. It didn't

547
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: matter as much as me giving to my mother what

548
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: she gave to me. You know, remember the nutty professor,

549
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: a little fat boy that Hercule leaves her. My mama

550
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: used to have me feeling like that, her little fat boy.

551
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: It didn't matter what I felt. I'm picking up my muscles.

552
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: He's so strong, baby, and it just gave me this

553
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: belief that I could do anything. That the craziest, It

554
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: is the craziest thing of all time. And Khalil, like

555
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: you dressed, the way you dress has always been like

556
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: this boy got some stop. You were in GQ. GQ, Khalil, Yeah,

557
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: say it again, you were in GQ, Like what did

558
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: that mean to you to not only have the foresight

559
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: to always keep yourself up, make yourself look nice, but

560
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: life outside of fighting. This is not just mixed martial arts.

561
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: You have built something to where that magazine and that

562
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: platform is like we want Khalil Ramtree Junior, and that's

563
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: the matter to you.

564
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: It's so cool DC because I just I get to

565
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: enjoy like all of these cool things and have all

566
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: these cool experiences. And at the end of the day

567
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: of DC, like I'm just being myself. Man. Yeah, like

568
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: I fight in the cage. I've always from since the

569
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: first time I lost weight. Part of my motivation to

570
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: lose weight was I want to be able to shop

571
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: in the mall. I want to be able to wear

572
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: the outfit that's on the mannequin.

573
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

574
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: And when I was so big, I couldn't you know

575
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like the biggest size was XL. Here

576
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I am four X. So what am I wearing? You know,

577
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: just like a blank T shirt and you know what

578
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, some shorts from Costco, Like I don't know.

579
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: But now, like since I've lost weight, it's like now

580
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I like, I like clothes, I want to wear. I

581
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: want to dress like whatever I see on the mannequin

582
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know. And I'm still just being myself

583
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: And like I'm I'm just living life and I'm blessed

584
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: to be able to do what I do, and it's

585
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: through fighting, through channeling that, you know, having the support,

586
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: but stepping into that courage of like I'm all this

587
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: and I can fight and you know what I mean,

588
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and I'm the baddest man on the planet. Like, no,

589
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's so cool, man, But yeah, it's so cool.

590
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. You spoke about men having the softer side. You said,

591
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: I am equally violent and dangerous as I am sensitive

592
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: in kind. I mean, I honestly, it's like for a

593
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: guy like me, right, or a guy that doesn't do

594
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: what you do, they can't even really understand or comprehend that.

595
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: But why is balance so important for you? Not only

596
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: the violence because the style is very violent right inside

597
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: the octon, it's very violent, but you also want to

598
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: make sure people understand that there's a different side to

599
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: Khalil Rawntree. And I think that's why platforms like GQ

600
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: are like, that's what interests me because there are I mean,

601
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: I are seven hundred fighters on this roster. Yeah, every

602
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: one of them violent. But I don't think everyone has

603
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: that other side like you do.

604
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's it's it's definitely interesting. I think that

605
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: a part of a part of just my story, like

606
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: not having my dad and only kind of having my mom.

607
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: I think that helped me. If my dad was around,

608
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: maybe I would have definitely been on one sider, yeah

609
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: what I mean more, or I would have seen this

610
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: guy six five three twenty you know, just built, and

611
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, who knows my brain would have like I

612
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: want to be like you know what I mean, and

613
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: like my mom five foot nothing, so like here I

614
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: am sprouting up being loved by my mom. The only

615
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: real love, true love that I knew was from my mom.

616
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: So I think it's not very common. I know that

617
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: there are other men like that in the world, and

618
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm grateful for everything that's happened, and you know

619
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, although like it took a long time

620
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: to get to where I'm at today, I can sit

621
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: here and say like I'm grateful that for that journey,

622
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: for the journey, and for everything that I've lost and

623
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: everything so that I can be the guy who I

624
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: am today and have the good, you know, experience of

625
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: both like the extremes of both.

626
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, and a journey's never taken a loan.

627
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: Your wife, Mia has played a massive part in your

628
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: journey the dragon? I mean, how important has she been

629
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: in this whole thing? And how much has her presence

630
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: and how much has her presence meant to you to

631
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: become the person that you are today because you don't

632
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: hide her. I was at the Contenden series and you

633
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: were there with your wife, like you guys are you know,

634
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: at the golf simulator You're there with your wife? Like

635
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: how important has her presence been to Kolou?

636
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, it's uh, it's everything, you know, like she is, Uh,

637
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: she's the dragon. Man, She's like you know what I mean,

638
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: It's like if you see me, you know, flying in,

639
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: riding in, like I'm with the dragon. That's how I

640
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, like and like I love

641
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: her and we're best friends. You know, we're like we're

642
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: right or die. We like, we're honest with each other.

643
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Where is equally sweet with each other? You know what

644
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's just man, like, I'm so

645
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: grateful for me. She's smarter than anybody I've ever met

646
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah, we've got a great like communication

647
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: level of respect. Uh. It's just I'm I'm lucky. So

648
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, if I'm going to Contender series and

649
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my wife. We're going golf and bring my

650
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: wife because we like we're a unit. Man, Like we've

651
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: that's just kind of the life that we've chosen to

652
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: build together is like, let's just do it together versus

653
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: like you and me and oh, it's just let's ride

654
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: together and and and make some dreams come true.

655
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's amazing.

656
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: It's fire. It's fire. Definitely the healthiest relationship I've ever

657
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: been in.

658
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 3: With the healthy relationship comes the question kids absolutely something

659
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: you're going to focus on absolutely, or do you want

660
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: to family.

661
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Give me the belt, give me my kids? No, I

662
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: really I want twin girls.

663
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: Girls?

664
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: You want girls? That's my dream? Yeah, like my dream.

665
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: Obviously it's like yes, twin girls and and I'm set

666
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: for life the belt and then twin girls and like

667
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: I need nothing else out of out of this life.

668
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're playing it where we're we're hoping. So

669
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: the both of us have an understanding right now that

670
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm so close to getting to the belt again, and

671
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: there's some you know, one to two big obstacles in

672
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: front of that, and we've we've both decided that right

673
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: now is this time is dedicated to me, and you know,

674
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: the next the rest of this year for sure, and

675
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to say by this time next year, there's

676
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: either one bruin or one coming out, you know what

677
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean? One or two? Two? Like I said, you know,

678
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: twin girls would be my absolute dream.

679
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: Well, you gotta have twins in your family. Do you

680
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 3: have twins in your family?

681
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: My mom's a twin, and then my mom's twin, her

682
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: daughter has twins. Like there's it's in the blood. It's

683
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: in the blood.

684
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: So it might actually be a possibility.

685
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: It's possible.

686
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: So you and I met long time ago, yep Vandally

687
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: Silver's gym. Yeah, I didn't recall that as as much

688
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: as you did, but that was after you had made

689
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: a change in your life. You had decided that I'm

690
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: done being heavy, I'm done smoking and just kind of

691
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: wasting my life away like so many teens do. So

692
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: many teens make bad choices early that ultimately affect them.

693
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: Do you remember when you decided that enough was enough? Depression, overweight,

694
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: doing the wrong thing, no true direction. Do you remember

695
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: a time where you go enough is enough. I want

696
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: to change, I'm gonna do something different.

697
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I was on tour with the bands that I was

698
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: working with, and that time was like the darkest time

699
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: in my life. I remember sitting in the van, in

700
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: the front seat of the car, just contemplating what the

701
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: last week to two weeks looked like in my brain,

702
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, like what was I experiencing, what was I

703
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: going through, what was I doing, the environments that I

704
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: was in. So I'm sitting in the front seat of

705
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: the van, got like the shade down. The guys have

706
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: to play that night, and I remember just like sitting

707
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: there and I'm thinking about just all this stuff, the

708
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: past bars, you know, just conversations. I was like taking

709
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: pills that I didn't even I didn't even know what

710
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: they were, you know what I mean, Like they were

711
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: some they were just pills, like prescription pills, and it

712
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: was just in your lost Yeah, it was just you

713
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was like on the road,

714
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm around a bunch of people who I like,

715
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I really at the core of who I am, I

716
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: really don't fit in here, but all of the layers

717
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: of stuff that I built over myself makes me feel

718
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: like this is where I belong. You get what I mean? Yeah, Yeah,

719
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: for sure, my hatred for self for people, like you know,

720
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like just covered in filth, you know, Like

721
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: that's how I could describe myself at the time, just

722
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: covered and filth. But I'm sitting in the front of

723
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: this van, and I remember I was just like, man,

724
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I've never done this before, but like, if there's a God,

725
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: turn my life around, because like this is terrible stuff,

726
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: you know what i mean. And I'm like, I don't

727
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: even want to live anymore. Like yeah, I just like

728
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm literally sitting front, like in the front seat of

729
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: this van, just thinking like I don't even want to

730
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: be alive. And I was just like, if there's anything

731
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: out there, now's your chance. Otherwise, like.

732
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: I'm done for You said you felt your heart almost stopped.

733
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: Felt my heart almost stopped. That's around the same time.

734
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: It's like that was like also in the It's all

735
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: around the same time, you know what I mean. Like

736
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm feeling my heart's like slowly dow through these bad things.

737
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm like contemplating everything that I've done bad.

738
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: Right, trying to figure out why.

739
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like not even really caring you like

740
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: does that make sense, Like like kind of trying to

741
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: kill myself in a way, you know what I mean,

742
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: because like obviously I know it's bad for me, but

743
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: that's all I was going after. I had nothing else

744
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: to go after, so I was like, Okay, if this

745
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: is my fate, this is my fate. Until yeah, I

746
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: was like kind of like heart scared, and I was

747
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: just like, okay, I mean, this has to be a turnaround,

748
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: Like this has to be a turnaround. I've got to

749
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: do something different. I guess I don't really want to die.

750
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: I yeah, like I'm too I'm too young. My mom

751
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: would be so sad, you know. I just start thinking

752
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: about all that stuff other people and then trying to

753
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: find a way. And eventually that way was my brother

754
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Donnie watching UFC and kind of showing me, hey, this

755
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: is what I'm interested in and maybe one day I

756
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: can do this or we can do this. And started

757
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: from there.

758
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: And eleven months later you're down one hundred pounds. How

759
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: was it in the beginning on that journey to not

760
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: get discouraged and honestly give up Because when you're heavy, right,

761
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: you're not starting from any type of cardio base, no,

762
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: not at all. You're literally every single thing you do

763
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: is the hardest thing you've ever done.

764
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: And it hurts, and it hurts.

765
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: How hard was it to not give up in those moments? Because,

766
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: like I said, eleven months later, you're down one hundred pounds.

767
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: Was it seeing the results that propelled you forward? Or

768
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: can you remember that?

769
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I remember? Okay, So the day I joined the

770
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: gym and I took my first moay Thai class, I

771
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: that's the day I stopped smoking cigarettes because I just

772
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: felt like couldn't breathe, couldn't breathe at all. You know,

773
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: two kicks on the pad, three kicks on the pad,

774
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: and the coach is telling us we got to do

775
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty each leg. I was just like, well, if like,

776
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: I like this, I like being able to kick the

777
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: shit out of something, but I can't breathe, I can't

778
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: do it. Then that day I was just like, Okay,

779
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: that's got to be out of the question because like

780
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I like this, But like.

781
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 3: Were you smoking? Cigarettes? Are just weed?

782
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: Two packs of cigarettes? So cigarettes forty cigarettes?

783
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Here's the problem. You knew what cigarettes do, teth Yeah,

784
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: that cigarettes kill you.

785
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: I didn't care, That's the thing. I didn't care, Like,

786
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I just didn't care. I could see this stuff it

787
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: says on the package, this and that, and like I

788
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: see people like you know talking yeah, yeah, the hole

789
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: in the neck, and like I've seen, I saw the effects,

790
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: like there is no positive from it, but I didn't care.

791
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Get like, I'm just like who cares. I have nothing

792
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: to look forward to life anyway, I'm gonna die in

793
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: this one bedroom apartment with five of my family members anyway,

794
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, like I just had this is pessimistic outlook

795
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: until I started training.

796
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: MMA safe saved you.

797
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vanderlis place like that was like kind of like

798
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: our safe haven. My brother and I both we both

799
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: we saw Pride I think on YouTube or something, and

800
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: we saw Vanderlay Silva, the axe murderer. We loved his style.

801
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: We started looking up more stuff and then we found out, wow,

802
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and Andala Silva just opened up a gym in Las Vegas.

803
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: If we're going to do this, let's go there. And

804
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: then we started going right on the freeway and we

805
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: started going there. Man, And that's everything that like the

806
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: people that we met there and just like the training

807
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: and just the lifestyle itself is what changed us.

808
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: How far into your journey did you you and I meet?

809
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: I would say, like within that first eleven months, you

810
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: were still an amateur. I didn't even have my first

811
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: fight yet.

812
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

813
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: It was like literally DC like i'd probably been in

814
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: it for three months, four months.

815
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that's awesome. And then you come across just

816
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: Vandally and guys that are just passing through, and then

817
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: we trained, and you see what I becoming. You're like,

818
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: now I can do this.

819
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you slam me all over the ground well and

820
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: wrestled maybe borderline teer up. And then I had to

821
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: find out that I just went with you know this Olympic.

822
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, you wrestled before. But then you watch

823
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: those guys passing like, all right, man, I'm on the

824
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: right track because because then it's easy to go forward.

825
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: When you're rubbing elbows with these people. We probably had

826
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: a conversation after practice, sat and talked, and that's like,

827
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: that's uh, that's what's important on that journey of man.

828
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: I wish I knew, right. I wish I could have

829
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: known in that moment what you had been through or

830
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: the journey you were on, because I would have tried

831
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: to do something to help motivate you, especially knowing that

832
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: mindset that you were operating with at that time, right

833
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: as a as a young man that was trying to

834
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: truly turn his life around. So now looking back and

835
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: thinking back to that where you're just kind of passing through, Uh,

836
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: it feels like an opportunity missed because not everybody's gonna

837
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: be you that gets it, right, It grows to be

838
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: who you are today. So I think you now in

839
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: this position, when you're in a different gym, you got

840
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: to make sure that you're super aware of the surroundings

841
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: because maybe a word.

842
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: With the guy, yeah right, he could be everything in

843
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: the world to him. Yeah for sure. Now that's deep

844
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: and that like I'm definitely gonna take that into consideration

845
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: and like not even consideration, just keep that in my

846
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: brain present, yeah, keeping yeah for sure, man, because that's it.

847
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: It's like that moment is cemented in my memory bank.

848
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

849
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: I remember I was wearing yellow moy Tai shorts, you

850
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like yeah, and then I was like,

851
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: that's the day that you know that I sparreled Daniel

852
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Cormier and I remember exactly how it felt. But like

853
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: that's a part of my story. So yeah, the same

854
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: thing can be.

855
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: You can do that for some and that's an amazing thing.

856
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: On the Ultimate Fight, he had a very very emotional

857
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: moment discussing your father. That was a big stage to

858
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: really open up.

859
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

860
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: Is that a part of that balance, right, being able

861
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: to be emotional on such a big stage, because at

862
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: that point, The Ultimate Fighter was the biggest thing you

863
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: had ever done in your entire life. Even though you'd

864
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: played in bands, even though you've done music, you've never

865
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: done it at that level. Was that hard to do

866
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: or does the emotion just kind of guide you at

867
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: times and you do it on that stage.

868
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: I had no choice, Like I had no choice in

869
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: The Ultimate Fighter. I mean, there's everything they're filming NonStop,

870
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I even tried to. I

871
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: tried to get away from the cameras and go outside

872
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and and have my moment. But uh,

873
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: you know, so there was really no escape in it.

874
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: But I never I never regret it, you know I

875
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: think that. Man. My mom always used to tell me, like,

876
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, don't it well, like when people say no,

877
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: like boys don't cry, yeah, and don't cry, She's like,

878
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: don't ever believe that, you know. She's just like humans.

879
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Cry human beings. Male. You know, it doesn't matter skin color, nothing.

880
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Everybody cries. And when you feel it's coming up and

881
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna cry, then like you know, let it out

882
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: and then be done with it. You know, just like

883
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: let it out and be done with it. Like, don't

884
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: cry for pity. But like, if it's coming up and

885
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: you feel so strongly about something, let it out. It

886
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: doesn't change who you.

887
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: Are as a person.

888
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: So like I was just like, okay, cool. So obviously

889
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: in a sport like this, we know we want to

890
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: hold on to our stuff and we want to be

891
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: as stern as possible. I'm not saying cry about everything.

892
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: But like for me at that time, I just I

893
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: couldn't hold it back. It's it was my dad's birthday,

894
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: and I was so trapped in you know, being on

895
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: the show and stuff that I forgot it. I didn't

896
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: even it didn't even cross my mind. And so when

897
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: I had the moment, it just hit me, you know

898
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, And that was it for me.

899
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: The moment you realized you were in the UFC from

900
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: that dream of your brother watching and going, this is

901
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: our avenue, this is our way, right Obviously your brother

902
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: isn't in the UFC. Right. While you guys might have

903
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: started that journey together, your journey veered off and went

904
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: to the heights of the sport. When you realize I'm

905
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: a UFC fighter from the scared nineteen year old boy

906
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: that's sitting in that van heart about to stop. What

907
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: did that feel like.

908
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: At the time When I first got signed to the UFC,

909
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh, I'm the man. Yeah you know,

910
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: I little did I know DC, But I thought I

911
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: was the man. I I was still nervous to be there,

912
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: but I thought like, this is my dream come true.

913
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: You know. I thought that I had reached the pinnacle.

914
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: And I think I took a lot. I think I

915
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: got into the UFC with only four fights.

916
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, your baby.

917
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, super baby. Only four professional fights and then like

918
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: seven amateur fights. So anyway, I get there and I'm like,

919
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm the UFC now, Yeah you know, I'm in the

920
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: UFC now, And uh, little did I know? Like I

921
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: was like, I know, you're in the UFC, now, wake up,

922
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: you get to work, like you know. It took me

923
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: a long time to like get smacked in the face

924
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: and realize, like you can also not be here tomorrow.

925
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it didn't start great.

926
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: No, man, like it started like this, you know, up

927
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: down or big fight, go Kanzaki Johnny Walker. You know

928
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: it's like like but it's because I really wasn't like

929
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't really locked in. I wasn't really like fully grateful.

930
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: I was just in the mixture, like I was right

931
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: in the middle of, like I guess, transitioning, you know,

932
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: like just becoming more mature, becoming you know what I mean,

933
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: grown the grown man, you know, like life experience everything,

934
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: because I was twenty four to twenty.

935
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but since twenty twenty one though, you kind of

936
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: got going in the right direction. Right, You're sixty one

937
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: the only loss a world heavyweight title fight where many

938
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 3: believe that going into the fourth round you were winning, right, Yeah.

939
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: Can you go back to that and think, like what

940
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: you were thinking going into that round, Like, man, I'm

941
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: beating Alex Pereira, especially with the way that he was

942
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: viewed at the time and how people gawkeed at you

943
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: getting a title fight. You're like, wait a minute, not

944
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 3: only did I get this fight, I'm winning this fight.

945
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: Walk walk me through what you were thinking going into

946
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 3: that fourth round and what it was like to share

947
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: to Caja Pereira.

948
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: Every single round of that fight, I was thinking, how

949
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: amazing is this? Every time I got every time I

950
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: got punched, every exchange, I was in my mind thinking

951
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: like how amazing is this? The exchanges and what was happening.

952
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I can't really tell you much about what I was

953
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: plotting in this and that, but I just remember, like,

954
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: how amazing is this? And I'm the main event right

955
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: now in Salt Lake City against Alex Ferreira, Like I said,

956
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: I was going to be like I asked for and

957
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: like and it's happening now. Knowing too that I had

958
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: full belief in myself that I could win this fight,

959
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: you know, so like I'm just I was in it.

960
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: I was locked in, like how amazing is this? And

961
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: then even coming into the fourth round. Third, the half

962
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: of the third round was pretty bad. That's when he

963
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: really started to sting me. Yeah, you know what I mean.

964
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I really started to like get dizzy and fatigued, like

965
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: not cardial fatigue, but like.

966
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: But you know, because when you start taking damage, you're

967
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: taking damage.

968
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Your body just says, dude, preserve yourself. You know what

969
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I remember going into the worth, I

970
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: was just I was thinking fifteen or ten minutes left,

971
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, I could do anything for ten minutes.

972
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: And so essentially the story that I like to tell

973
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: is that I just I treated the fourth round like

974
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: the fifth, and I just let it all out in

975
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: the fourth. Yeah, And that's not what I should have done.

976
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: What I should have done has was know that I'm

977
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: up two possibly three, yea cool off in the first,

978
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: cool off in the fourth, and then take it to

979
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: him in the fifth. That would have been a little bit,

980
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I hadn't had that

981
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: experience yet. It was I was so pumped up. I

982
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: was so fighting for the title. I know I can

983
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: beat this guy, you know what I mean. I was

984
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: just I was all heart, you know what it was.

985
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: It was.

986
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: It was all hard.

987
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: Though, it was all heart, but it was it was

988
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 3: very it was very It was honestly kind of scary, right,

989
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: It was honestly kind of scary because, like you said,

990
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: you started stinging, you you had the cuts, your nose

991
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: was messed up, and then it seemed like you took

992
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: more damage later when you were like, uh, I'm gonna

993
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: let it all hang out. I know you won't quit.

994
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: I know you'll never quit, right, But that had to

995
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: be hard for the people that love you to watch that. Yeah,

996
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: and then you have to go to them after the

997
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: fight and they have to see you in that state

998
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: and that that has to suck a little bit. Because

999
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: I got knocked out once and when I went to

1000
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: the back, I was with my children and they were crying,

1001
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: and that's hard to deal with and it makes you

1002
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: kind of think. It made me kind of think, Man,

1003
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: I put my kids through this. Did you have that

1004
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: moment after? Like? It was awesome for me, but that

1005
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 3: had to be hard for people that loved me to watch. Hey,

1006
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: your mom doesn't watch fights. Thank god she never.

1007
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: Watched, right, Yeah, you know what, I didn't. I didn't

1008
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: really have to think about that too much because I

1009
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: got to experience it right there. I mean, my I, uh,

1010
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: my strength and conditioning coach Lorenzo, my wife, my brother,

1011
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: my sister in law. They were the ones that went

1012
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: to the hospital with me. You know, I got rushed

1013
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: to the hospital right after that fight, and they were

1014
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: in the hospital with me till five am, and I

1015
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: just saw it on their faces.

1016
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. No, for sure, bro, you know.

1017
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: We didn't even have to have that. You know, we

1018
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: didn't even have to have that combo. I think for

1019
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, like they from a deep place.

1020
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: I could feel that they were painting, like that they

1021
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: were hurt, but they were still just like, I'm proud

1022
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: of you, you know. But it was with like a

1023
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: it was like but damn. But but to even look

1024
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: at your face right now, you know it pains me.

1025
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: But like I'm proud of you.

1026
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: You know, I know you right and I've interviewed you

1027
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: and I've talked to you, and even I was like,

1028
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't love this. But I got to tell you.

1029
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: When I walked out of the hotel on Sunday morning

1030
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: to go home, I love At five am, I was

1031
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: kind of shaking my head and I was smiling. Like

1032
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: what Khalil really did, like fight, like I I I

1033
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: left that place in Utah with a sense of Khalil

1034
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: fought his ass off and he did a great job.

1035
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: And even though he didn't win, it doesn't feel like

1036
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: he lost. Yeah, but that was the overwhelming sentiment for

1037
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: most Could you feel that fan appreciation even in defeat,

1038
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: That it might have been even greater than some of

1039
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 3: the fight that you've won.

1040
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: The fans helped me so much in that fight DC,

1041
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: like in in many, in many different ways. I think

1042
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: that the fans helped me, helped me process that loss.

1043
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: The reaction from the fans really helped me process that

1044
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: loss and helped me to grow from it to have

1045
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: some more like belief, you know, like it was it was.

1046
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: Had I not had that reaction, man, I think, you know,

1047
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: I would have had a definitely a different type of

1048
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: firelit because I wouldn't I wouldn't give up. I'd still

1049
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: keep going for the for the belt. But I think

1050
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: that it just it gave me a big appreciation for

1051
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: the fans and like I think all of the new

1052
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: fans and the past ones for you know what I mean,

1053
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: for supporting me and a loss like that and really

1054
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: building me up and a loss like that, because yeah,

1055
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it motivated me more. You know, it made

1056
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: me want to keep fighting more, you know what I mean,

1057
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: I just keep going for it because now, like there's

1058
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: just so many more fans behind me. Now.

1059
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you go to Baku, Yeah and you beat

1060
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: Jamal Hill.

1061
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that.

1062
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: Fight a little easier than you expected. Because boy, when

1063
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: we watched that, I got a group message with my

1064
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: friends whore like, Khalil just dogged his dude out. It

1065
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: didn't seem like he had anything for you. Were you

1066
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: surprised that that fight played out in the way that

1067
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: it did, or do you believe now you've elevated to

1068
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: a point that if you're not one of the absolute

1069
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: best in the world, they can't really compete with you.

1070
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: That's a tough one to answer. I don't really remember

1071
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: what I expected of that fight. I I guess I

1072
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: can say that I I had a little bit of

1073
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: an expectation of it being of it being a little harder. Yeah, yeah,

1074
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: I did. I did think that, Like, okay, because you

1075
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: watched him. I went into this fight prepared, you know,

1076
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: like I wasn't overlooking this guy at all, former champion, because.

1077
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: You guys have been scheduled to fight before.

1078
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: All exactly with reach, you know, with punching power, with

1079
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: decent head movement. So I knew, I knew what I

1080
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: was up against, and I when I went into that fight,

1081
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: I just I just did what I needed to do, Yeah,

1082
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: to win the fight, Like that was my That was

1083
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: my My take on everything in my approach is that

1084
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: the only thing that mattered to me was to win

1085
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: that fight. Yeah, so there was there was no need

1086
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: to really chase him down or go overly crazy. I

1087
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: just pick him apart, and you did.

1088
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: And for me, you competed at such a high level

1089
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: right after the Perira fight. One, how are you able

1090
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: to bounce back so quickly? And two? How are you

1091
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: able to not have any residuals from that fight? Because

1092
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: I remember when I did get knocked out, when I

1093
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: walked through the octagon, I'm like, I got it until

1094
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: I got into the fight. I was like, man, I

1095
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: gotta make sure I don't get hit with this. I

1096
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: gotta be careful because of what happened prior. And then

1097
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: when the door locks, you fight, right, But when you

1098
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: go through what you went through with the confidence issues,

1099
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: how do you make sure that that's all locked? Win?

1100
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: You don't deal with any of those second thoughts because dude,

1101
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: you operated like you had never went through the Perier

1102
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 3: fight and then taking the damage that you took.

1103
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: Uh, everything that the world experiences when watching me fight

1104
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: in the cage live, everything that I am in the

1105
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: in that cage is just a. It's a product of training. Yeah,

1106
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: it really is the preparation and and uh, it's my

1107
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 1: job to show up that night and be one hundred

1108
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: percent confident in my abilities. And the only way that

1109
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I can be one hundred percent confident in my abilities

1110
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: is to put in the real like really put in

1111
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: the work during the training and and be truthful to

1112
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: myself when I asked the question like did I do

1113
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: enough to you know what I mean? Did I actually

1114
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: do enough? And did I push myself to the limit

1115
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: every day? And did I did I put intention behind

1116
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: every movement? And you know what I mean, that I

1117
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: properly prepare for this moment right now with while the

1118
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: world's watching. And if the answer is yes, then I'm okay.

1119
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: Khalil, you have put yourself in situations where every moment

1120
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: is intentional, where every spot is a big spot and

1121
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 3: the world is watching, and now we're on the verge

1122
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: of another one. You have see three twenty. You're fighting

1123
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: your proasca. He is one of the most unorthodox guys

1124
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: you've ever seen in the octagon. Him and Jamal Hill

1125
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: had a very fun fight also, but he didn't dominate

1126
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: Jamal in the way that you did. What are your

1127
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: thoughts heading into the fight with Prohoska, another former champion

1128
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: and a guy that is a very difficult guy to

1129
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: prepare for in his own regard.

1130
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: Pro Hosco's dangerous because of many different things, his strength,

1131
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: his physique, his what people like to call weird, unorthodox

1132
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: type of style. It's a dangerous fight for me and

1133
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm uh and I say that because I'm the one

1134
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: stepping in there. Yeah, and I'm prepared.

1135
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: Khalil Yuri's only lost twice in ten years, and that's

1136
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: only the Pereira. Would that what would it mean to

1137
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: you to be you know, URI's lost in ten years

1138
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: to Pereira and Khalil Rountree, Because that's a feather in

1139
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: the cap right to be a guy like that that

1140
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: doesn't suffer defeat that would that? Would that mean to

1141
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: you to add that? And would that or at least

1142
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: in your opinion, be enough to warrant another opportunity of

1143
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: the championship.

1144
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: I think that it would. It would really solidify my

1145
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: number in the top five. Yeah, you know, beating him

1146
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: gives me that number, like respectfully, Yeah, his only two losses.

1147
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: That's crazy, right in ten years? But you guys don't lose.

1148
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing about the best guys in the world, right,

1149
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: you don't really lose. But in a decade, no one's

1150
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: beating Prosca.

1151
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: But says a lot, Yeah, it says a lot.

1152
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: But your intention is to go beat him and say,

1153
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: now it's Khalil and Pereira. But you aren't. You weren't

1154
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: ready to say I deserve a title shot after that.

1155
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't like to say that I deserve anything, you

1156
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, and maybe that's just my

1157
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: own like, you know, self sabotage or I don't know,

1158
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it, but like I

1159
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't naturally just think about like what I deserve.

1160
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: I do dream of a second fight immediately after with Pereira.

1161
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: But but Pereerra isn't the champion as we speak today.

1162
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: As yeah, yeah, as as we speak to day. True,

1163
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: But I guess the only way that I really would

1164
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: like that fight again is if he was the champion,

1165
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, that's my focus,

1166
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: that's my goal that you know, like the belt is

1167
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: what matters to me, and who holds it is just

1168
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, we're all kind of placeholders.

1169
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: The belt make it more likely that if you win

1170
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: against your proscy that you fight for the championship, because again,

1171
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: you have you have the fan sport, you have the audience, right,

1172
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: and that matters in today's UFC.

1173
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. I didn't really give it too

1174
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: much thought, but I don't see why it wouldn't make

1175
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: sense for me to win this fight and then go

1176
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: into a title fight whoever you know, whoever it is

1177
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: that that goes home with the belt that night. I

1178
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: could see how that would make sense to make that happen.

1179
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 3: You are a tremendous muy Thai fighter. I remember when

1180
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: you first came back from Thailand. Me and Rogan were like,

1181
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: who in the hell are we watching?

1182
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: It's so crazy?

1183
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: It was crazy, like the differences that you made. But

1184
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: you brought in Jonathan Haggerty did you bring in Why

1185
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: would you bring in a do you bring in an

1186
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: unbelievable muyit Thai striker? Like? What does he mean to

1187
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: this camp?

1188
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: And why?

1189
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: When? Honestly I believe that in the UFC, your muay

1190
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: Thai is as high level as anybody we have in there.

1191
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: DC. First and foremost, thank you for saying that I have.

1192
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: I think you said incredible muay Thai. That means a

1193
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: lot to me because I think my muytai's trash really

1194
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: in comparison to like guys that I admire and that

1195
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: I watch, and I like like the real muy Thai.

1196
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: So thank you. And then as far as Haggarty goes,

1197
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Haggerty and I we we shared the same coach, Christian Knowles.

1198
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: And so while Christian is here with me for for

1199
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: a training camp, Jonathan also has a fight coming up

1200
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: in Japan in November. So Chris, you know, being the

1201
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: coach that he is, being like the team that we are,

1202
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, hager Like, I'm in training camp right now,

1203
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: You've got to get your training camp started. So you've

1204
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: got to come to Vegas because this is where we are,

1205
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: and so we have you know, we're not sparring.

1206
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: You guys, don't spark no, no, no.

1207
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean Hagate fights at one. We could, but you

1208
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: know it's it's not really anything that's moving around. We

1209
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: both we trained together, but uh, it's not something that

1210
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: like I specifically brought in you know, Hagerty for this camp. Yes,

1211
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: how we how we regulate and how I kind of

1212
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: run the team and stuff is like Christians here. You know,

1213
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: my my guy Lamb is here, who does all of

1214
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 1: our content. Like, the team's in Vegas, Bro, do you

1215
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: gotta fight coming up? Okay, you gotta come to Vegas

1216
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: and then you know we'll go to Thailand after or whatever.

1217
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you build your fight camp within the fight

1218
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: camp at Syndicate, Like, do you have a Like? I

1219
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: had fight camp within the camp, so I had my

1220
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: own partners, I had my other coaches. Do you build

1221
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: that inside of the camp in Syndicate?

1222
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Syndicate. I started training with John ten years ago. Yeah.

1223
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: I love John. He's always been a great guy to me,

1224
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: a great mentor and friend and coach, so he's always

1225
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: Syndicate has always been my home gym so long as

1226
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm in Vegas, and John allows me to bring training

1227
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: partners in and I make sure everything I run through

1228
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: him and kind of have him analyze what's going on,

1229
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: game plan, strategize, and it seems to work.

1230
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: It's been working for Isn't it great to have a

1231
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: coach that has no ego. All he wants is the

1232
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: best for the athlete.

1233
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: He really does, man. Yeah, Yeah, And he coaches everybody,

1234
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, very very differently and very specifically. It's nice

1235
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: to and he's been in the game for so long,

1236
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's friends with guys like you, and you know,

1237
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: he's just been around. He's been in the game for

1238
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: a long time. He's been dedicated to you know, syndicate

1239
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: and making MMA grow in Vegas and he yeah, it's

1240
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: it's so cool, man. But yeah, we bring guys in

1241
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: if I need extra bodies, extra coaches, whatever, whatever keeps camp.

1242
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine how sparring with you kicking me the

1243
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: way you kick now, it's crazy. You would need some

1244
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: extra bodies. Khalil. As we start to run and head home,

1245
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: you said, one of your main goals in life is

1246
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: to inspire, to inspire that kid that's nineteen, that's going

1247
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: through some of the things that you might have gone

1248
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 3: through in your life. Kids that are in that same place. Right,

1249
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: there are so many distractions for kids today, video games

1250
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 3: to drugs to everything. What does it mean to you

1251
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: to be that person that can inspire the next generation,

1252
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: especially being one that lived that life. Right nineteen, I

1253
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 3: was in college, right, I was already I was chasing

1254
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: into championships. But there was a little round tree, and

1255
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 3: there's a little round try out there right now. What

1256
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 3: do you tell that kid?

1257
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: Hmm, you know, without saying directly to the kid like

1258
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: do this, because I really don't have, you know, a

1259
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: specific answer, but I have like a way of going

1260
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: about things. A lot of the times DC that that

1261
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: young kid that's that I talk about, or that young

1262
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: kid eight, nine, ten, eleven years old, even in the teenagers,

1263
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: I think about it because there's still that part of

1264
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: me that that exists, like in my mind, in my spirit,

1265
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: you get what I mean, still there, He's still there, yep.

1266
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's almost like inception because

1267
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: a part of what I'm doing also is for that kid,

1268
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: that for that little me, you know what I mean,

1269
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: for the for the four year old who you know,

1270
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: who didn't know what it's like to have, you know,

1271
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: a father's embrace or a father to give you encouraging words,

1272
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. A lot of times I speak to

1273
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: that kid. Sometimes it's the nineteen year old kid where

1274
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, get your shit together, really, like what

1275
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: are you doing with your life? You're you're you know,

1276
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: like think about it you're you're wasting away or doing this,

1277
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Like come on, life happens, and ten years you're going

1278
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: to be, you know, thirty years old, and you're gonna

1279
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: wish that you would have done something differently. And sometimes

1280
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the thirty five year old me

1281
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: or you know, I'm just like so I look at

1282
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: it as like, for one, don't be afraid to be yourself,

1283
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: but also like work to be, work to be some

1284
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: someone who like you wish you had. You get what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like I try to be the father that

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Speaker 1: I never had. I try to be the role model

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Speaker 1: that I never had. I try to be the friend

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Speaker 1: that I never had, you know, like to myself and

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Speaker 1: to others. And it seems to kind of work for me,

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01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm I'm intentional about like I said,

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Speaker 1: the things that I say or the things how I

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: treat people. If I leave the building, I'm like, okay,

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: is everything okay? You know, Like did I you know,

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: did I was I respectful?

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Speaker 3: This?

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: And that? Like those things really make sense. They make

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: a difference. Live authentically, be yourself, carve your like, carve

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: your own path, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

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01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can to help inspire and all

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: this stuff, but we all have the ability to carve

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01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: our own paths and to be our own sense of inspiration.

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: You get what I mean, Like it comes from work,

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: It comes from you know, dedication and discipline. But if

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: there's something that you want in life, it's people say

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01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: it all the time. It's absolutely possible, but your actions

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: and intentions everything has to line it. I can't be

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: the champion if I'm like, yo, do you see after

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: this we go into the bar and like yeah, you

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Or like hey, you know, instead

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: of training to say I'm gonna do this, like that's

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: just not really helping you on your path. So start

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01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: to make decisions that point you in the direction of

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: your vision. We all have a vision. Hit me up,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: I always try to ask guys this when it's all

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: said and done, right, when you look back on everything,

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: the music struggles, the weight loss journey, what do you

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: hope people get from the Khalil Raalntree story because it

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01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: ends for all of us. Right when you're done, what

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 3: do you think people want? What do you want people

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: to take from what they saw in Colaurentry Junior.

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: I want them to. I want them to create their

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: dream lives. You know, like if there was like if

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: you could package it up and someone said, like, I've

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01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: been following you, I have been inspired by your story.

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: I used to be this and now I'm this, and

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01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: my life is in a complete different place. That's all

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: I want, you know what I mean, Like when you're stuck,

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: you don't really know where you're at, you don't know

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: what you want to do with your life, but you

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: kind of have. You have a dream and you want

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: to get there. I just want to be the example

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Speaker 1: of like.

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Speaker 3: It's possible.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely possible. Less than you know. Fifteen years ago,

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: I was living in an apartment at twenty years old

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: with my mom and my brother and my sister and

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Speaker 1: my niece in a one bedroom apartment with no money

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: to even pay the rent that was only eight hundred

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: dollars and like just broke with nothing. But my brother

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: and I were like, Yo, this fighting thing's kind of cool.

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: Let's try it out. Then we go to a gym.

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: When we join a gym and allow ourselves to like

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Speaker 1: be in it, you know, like, oh, we're learning, we're

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: picking up. Should we do this? Yeah, let's give it

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01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: a shot. Okay, but we got to do our all.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: We gotta be dedicated and then it's like that constant

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: dedication to one thing, and then along the lines like

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01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: meeting people and just being dedicated to like we are

1350
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: going to get ourselves out of wherever we are today,

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: however we need to do it in a legal way,

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Speaker 1: in a safe way, in a healthy way. We're going

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01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: to get ourselves out of this one bedroom apartment, and

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01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: we are going to just make something out of our lives.

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Speaker 1: And here I am today, and here we are today,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I want, like my kind of testimony

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: to be for anybody who feels stuck, you know, like

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 1: stuck in the mud. Get out of the mud. There's ways.

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers, but I have the experience

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: of like I've done it and I know that is

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's

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01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: like the best way I could put it.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. I have one two quick things. It's Monday,

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Speaker 3: after you have C three in three twenty, right, you

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: have fought your proska and you've lost a fight. What

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 3: are we telling people? What are we telling our supporters?

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 3: If it didn't go our way and it's Monday after

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Speaker 3: the fight? Or is that such a fas now?

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Speaker 1: As of now it's not even possible. Yeah. I like that,

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: as of now it's not possible. I don't even choose

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Speaker 1: to like.

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Speaker 3: Make it a reality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I would say is call me on Monday.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday after the fight, and you just beat your prosca.

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: What are we telling our supporters? Are we screaming from

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: the mountaintop. I'm fighting for the belt next and I'm

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: gonna be the champ our week A little Roaldtree Junior.

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Speaker 3: We're operating with Grace and we're gonna see where everything falls.

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Speaker 1: My heart's leaning more towards the second option because there's

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: still a lot more work that needs to be done

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: after your pro hosca. And I think, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: I kind of plan to go a little silent after

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Speaker 1: this fight.

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Speaker 3: Why you will be hot as you've ever been. You'll

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: be You'll Kerosene will be set to you. You win

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01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: this fight, everybody will be calling for you to fight

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01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: for the belt. You can't disappear. Well, why do you

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 3: want to go silent?

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: Because there's work to do? Yeah, there's work to do.

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: Talk to me when I'm the champion. Yeah, you know,

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: like if just there's work to do, d you see,

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: like I gotta get the belt. And I know, like

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: people want to talk and you know and this and that, like,

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: but I have a dream. The dream is to be

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: the champion, not to talk to people, not to do

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: with these interviews, not to like my dream is to

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Speaker 1: be the champion. Yeah, and like if you can respect that,

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01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: then like then you can respect that. Like after this fight,

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01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: like I'm chilling, you know, I'm enjoying what it's like

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: to have a holiday for once, and like you know

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like this will be like I

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01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: know that I'm not going to fight for the rest

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: of the year, so like this is my time for me. Yeah,

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like for me, man, I

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01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: love the people. I love the support, but like there's

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: seven hundred fighters on the roster too, you know what

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they can share the defense. They have

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,879
Speaker 1: a lot of fight cards, a lot of other title fights,

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: a lot of other you know, I anticipation is good,

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01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: but like as far as I go, like I've been

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: training my ass off getting ready to fight. You know

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: this this dangerous guy. My my life, my career, everything's

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: on the line.

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Speaker 3: I think afterward, like, I think it will suit you too,

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: because I think when guys are getting more, they weren't

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: as present. Whenever you take a little break at times,

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: it makes people long for you and want to see you.

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: And I believe that, uh, it might be good for you,

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 3: but I think that you get the job done, people

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01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 3: will be calling to see you back in a title chance.

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: Hey man, thank you so much for joining me. You

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01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: are the man, bron It's inspiring what you have been through.

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: I use that in the opening I said inspiring. This

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 3: man is inspiring. I hope that you got something from

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 3: Kalo wrong, because I absolutely did. He fights at UFC

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01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: three twenty next week. But just sitting here truly does

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01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: propel me forward. And I'm a guy that doesn't struggle

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 3: for inspiration. When I can take it from someone like this,

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01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 3: it just makes me better in everything that I do

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Speaker 3: in my life. So thanks to Calttle Altree for joining

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 3: me on The Daniel Cormier Show, and thank you guys

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01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: for always watching and supporting. Till next time, Like and

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: subscribe and tell you friends that we're doing stuff like

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01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: this and We're sitting down with people like the Great

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Speaker 3: Khalil ratree Jr. Until next time, Peace,